Dialogue(s): parmenides
Chapters: hyp4;hyp8
Sections: 158c (P19-P21), 164c-165b (P8-P17)
Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, JulieH, Eldar

Re-reading hyp4: 158c (P19-P21) to compare with hyp8 regarding infinite multitude

Then hyp8, starting with P8 (164c)

Infinite multitude, both in 4 & 8, but going to different conclusions

Sudden appearance, here, like a dream

Does it help to come to a general idea of what each of these hypotheses can represent, so that then you can use the idea once you find it, as a way of ordering all of the parts, so that it can remain with you as a unity? (e.g., the Greeks personified these ideas as gods)

0:24:00 Proclus, Elements of Theology, Proposition 01 (he uses unity, though)

Other by multitude, not by unity. And that multitude is a mass of selves

Appearance: sudden opposites - comparative judgements are relative. Now apply that to self!

So no standards - only comparisons

They can switch / become one another with the slightest difference

Proteus personifies this

0:48:45 P9 - Belief in the divided line? The source of the shadows on the cave? Reflections of images

0:52:30 P10 - None are ones

0:53:55 P11

0:56:00 P12 odd/even male/female

0:59:40 P13 - continuing with extreme relativity

1:00:50 P14 - the process of transition is a phantasm - no growth or development

1:03:05 P15 - no growth, no stages

1:04:10 P16 - unpacking P14 and P15

1:14:28 P17 - same for all Being grasped by dianoia (leaving off here)

165b

Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation

More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg

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