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metres. what mineral resources it finds will be of interest not just to china, but the americans too. >> so much more news we know that on al jazeera go to aljazeera.com. i'll break it down for you. also the boss is watching you, american workers under surveillance on the job like never before. what you don't know about cracking technology, bus i go one-on-one with former president jimmy cart for set the record straight for america on apartheid and nelson mandela. i'm ali velshi, and this is "real money." >> this is "real money." you are the most important part of the show.
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so join our live conversation for the next half hour on twitter, @aj real money and @ali velshi. your comments are really important to me. whether you like or not chances are that you're being watched when you're at work. bosses have always found ways to keep tabs on their workers, but now technology allows for a level of surveillance never before seen. some of you can see where they're tracking you. other tracking tools are so secretive they can't be seen at all. workers cry big brother but companies say they need to protect their company. now it goes beyond the office walls. at first glance the small boston office looks like any other start up. but thanks to these unassuming white badges every movement and conversation of these start up employees even their stress levels is being tracked. >> if daniel and i are
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interacting right now there are a few things happening. we're talking. looking at my tone of voice, my volume. they can figure out right now that daniel and i are facing each other, using the receiver, that's the little window right there. >> ben is president and co-founder of sociometric solutions and also a test subject for its own technology. >> we have a motion sensor and a bluetooth radio . >> sensors in the badge record how often workers get up from their desk to their conservati conservationnal patterns and allows employees to collect hard data on the soft science of behavior. call center workers showed that they completed calls faster just by taking lunch and coffee breaks at the same time.
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>> at minimum saving the company $15 million a year. >> reporter: it may seem novel, but this increasingly effort . >> workers spend 2.5 hours a day for personal use while at work. >> reporter: selling monitoring software used by businesses and u.s. government agencies. >> we can see if alert words are showing up more than others. >> reporter: it allows managers to set up alerts when workers use the word sexy or visit certain website. anything from online gambling to facebook. they can receive notification each time their name comes up in an employee e-mail, and watch the recording of a workers computer scene. the demand for the software has exploded over the last tee years
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aover the last threeyears as cor employees to work from home. >> an employer can protect its interests without this kind of wide invasive spying program. >> lou president of the national institute said indiscriminate monitoring hurts productivity. >> it slows things down. >> but miller counters that most workers today accept workplace monitoring as part of the job, and socio metric solutions gives badge data without employee names attached. now it's spreading targeting the estimated 60 million people who work outside the office in industries like trucking, oil and gas even construction. >> it's a blind spot for the business. but what we do is akin to turning on the light.
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>> reporter: a black box hardwired into the vehicle feeds data back to company offices giving supervisors realtime information on whether a drive is braking too hard, using fuel efficiently or making deliveries on time. >> it's not really about watching the employee, it's really about how can we give them the tools that they need in the field to do a better job. >> reporter: major partnerships with ford and volvo, it won't be long before smart tracking systems become the norm no matter the try. >> it's not just truck companies or truck drivers, pretty much every vertical industry in any size company needs this kind of technology. >> reporter: david schuster, al jazeera. >> now even the most strident advocates cies admitted the need to watching employees, protecting intellectual
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property, theft, and it can be an effective deterrent to those things. a recent academic study of restaurant using theft monito monitoring software reduced in 22% reduction in serve theft and the staff worked harder and drink sales were up by 10%. i've been asking you what kind of restrictions should be placed on workplace monitoring. murray said i think most tracks has no part in your life. tell me what you think by tweeting me @ aj real money or @ali velshi or on our facebook. " naked employee" best book name ever.
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fred, good to see you. let's draw a distinction. i don't see any problem with them tracking trucks and trucks drivers, fuel, and efficiency things all around. i might evening interested in tracking social media because you have choices what you do there. but voyeurism, they can see your screen, they can track your behavior habits. >> absolutely. >> that's different. there is a level of transparency missing. >> that is exactly the word that you want to focus on, transparency. because you can talk about the productivity studies, but they work best when the employees know what is going on. that's not true when you've got hidden surveillance because it effects employee morale. one of the studies i came across when i did the naked employee, we're start to go track bathroom habits of their employs. >> ostensibly they wanted to do that to see if people were washing their hands. >> which is a legitimate purpose. there is no question.
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you want clean servers. but you start to get into this worry that people are start to go really draw conclusions about people's lives based on these kinds of things. social media makes it worse. you can go into social media to see whether or not your brand is being trashed. but if you're trying to find out how your employees live their lives, their private lives, that's a boundary they shouldn't cross. >> is this going all in one direction or will this pendulum swing back in at some point. i get companies are doing this because they can in many cases. if i can monitor every time one of my employees uses my name in an e-mail, i probably would. >> and you probably should. as we look at the world around us which want to know about bomb threats. there is workplace violence. but the question is whether or not companies are adhering to best practices. because there are ethical issues involved here. and people should not feel like the moment they walk into a workplace al jazeera, apple, you name it, that they give up every aspect of their privacy.
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>> part of it is that in the old days before social media and e-mail you knew your employees was trash talking you as a boss. now you're finding out that they're doing it over e-mail. is that wrong? >> well, the problem with technology is that it goes into place and goes much farther and much faster than ever before. previously the boss had to be at the next booth at the bar to hear that they're being trash talked. now it's being done automatically. and in the bathroom example technology is going into places where people should not be spied on. >> the tracking interbehavior, internet shopping, that's fair. i don't want you shopping on my time. some of it is gamble, some of it is porn. >> at what point should be ge getting in trouble with your company. >> you had have to be off the
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wall advocate to say that people should do private stuff when they are getting paid for work. the question is where is the impact on employee morale. if they're trying to record internet behavior or publicized behaviors of public activities at home that have no impact on work, that is a bridge too far. >> great conversation, great book. fred lane the author of "naked employee." thank you very much. >> thank you. >> the multi headed animal that roams america's states counties and cities and takes money out of your pocket whether you're rich, or poor to pay for cops and mosquito abatement. talking about taxes. and surprisingly jimmy carter's interview with me. >> i had many talks with nelson mandela. i never heard him say that he was grateful to the united states. >> that story and more as "real
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>> an al jazeera america exclusive... former president jimmy carter reflects on the life and legacy of nelson mandela. >> that spirit of nelson mandela is embedded deeply in the heart and soul of the south africans... >> they worked side by side for freedom, now president carter talks about mandela's global impact. a revealing interview you won't see anywhere else. >> i've never heard him say, that he was grateful to the united states... >> talk to al jazeera with jimmy carter only on al jazeera america still experienced some racial tension.
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so my parents who both started out in segregated schools made sure i knew my history as a young african american girl. they made me learn about martin luther king's march on washington and watch nelson mandela's acceptance speech when he first took the podium as president. >> so help me god. >> fast forward 17 years later. i'm an eager college senior. and it's no surprise i chose south africa as the place to go for my fellowship. when i got there, i started teaching kids in one of the country's poorest townships, kids all born the year that mandela was freed. they were, as we say in south while you were asleep news was happening.
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>> no u.s. president was closer to nelson mandela than jimmy carter. during his presidency carter was an early supporter of the african national congress. did he not meet until mandela until 1990, nine years after he left the white house, but the
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men forged a very real friendship on working on projects to aid africa. there were members of the elders, an elite group of world leaders cofounded by mandela. i sat down with former president jimmy carter before mandela's memorial. i asked if americans should be proud of the part they played in in apartheid in america. >> i had many talks with nelson mandela. i never heard him say that he states. he was grateful to cuba. he was grateful to others who spoke up for him while he was still in prison. he was grateful to the people who condemned the apartheid regime, but i don't think that he felt that his freedom and the change that took place in south africa was attributable to the united states. when i first met nelson mandela,
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the first thing did he was congratulate me on having a daughter, amy, who had been arrested three times in college demonstrating against apartheid in south africa. but that was a transition period. when coca-cola company, ibm and other american conglomerates were doing business with apartheid regime, and there was movement among college kids, including my daughter, to bring an end in trade relationship in the apartheid regime. that was when--that was a minimal contribution that i would say was made in america, my daughter, college kids. it was not the top politicians. >> i heard black south africans say that apartheid would have ended earlier if not for the dragging of the feet of the americans and the brits in the
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1980's. >> well, it wasn't only the americans and brits, i would say the entire european community. i don't know how the japanese felt, but the americans--the people who were getting economically well off by trading with the apartheid regime, and extracting their minerals from south africa as well, diamonds and other things, they didn't want to see a change. and it was the same principle that we had in south africa when all the former american presidents were in bed with the military dictators there. there weren't any black people or indigenous people rose up against the military dictatorships. we would send troops in to put down the revolution, and brand them as communists. so it was a matter of preserving the status quo, basically. although our country in general has always been for the last 200
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or more years committed to basic human rights. there was some aberrations there when we felt that economic matters may benefit our corporations and others if we stuck with the entrenched governments even though they were oppress simple t oppressivr people. >> what do you think about nelson mandela stayed for one term and walked away. he easily could have won again. >> i wish he had, in retrospect. i don't know how he felt about it. but i think his impact now on the future of south africa is still going to be profound. as people look back on nelson , they celebrate vividly and enthusiastically the great contribution that he made in their lives, and i think that spirit of nelson mandela is embedded deeply in the heart and soul and consciousness of the south africans. that's why i have hope that this country is going to realize some
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of the ambitions that nelson mandela had for it. >> there is a lot more from carter including what is still ailing south africa, and why he couldn't move the needle on ending apartheid. my entire interview where president carter airs this sunday at 7:00 p.m. eastern and 4:00 p.m. pacific. the "wall street journal" said that sprint is working on a bid for t-mobile. the the government made sprin sprint crab it's take over of t-mobile . while i'm thrilled they finally let you keep your electronic devices on throughout the entire flight, i mentioned
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then even i would not want to be stuck next to a chatter box like me on a plane. now groups have come to a disagreement on whether people should be allowed to talk on their phones and i suspect that they will not allow it. the department of transportation may consider banning inflight phone talk. they have received complaints from travelers, flight attendants and members of congress. so what? you're the department of transportation. there is no safety issue here. there is no health hazard here and no issue with the movement of goods and people which means there is no role of the federal government in this discussion. let the people and their airlines decide. that's our oh show. on monday i'll show you a toy that is like souped-up legos. they light up, beep, does and they may teach your kid how to be an engineer. i'm ali velshi. thank you for joining us. check checkor joining us.
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>> hello, welcome to al jazeera america. i'm thomas drayton in new york with a look at your top stories >> today is the one-year anniversary of one of the most horrific school shootings. now another shooting has unfolded. a shooting in centennial colorado has left one dead and another wounded. a 15-year-old girl was shot and the gun turned on the gunman. it's believed the gunman was targetting a teacher. >> in connecticut