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problem... >> journalists on the front lines... >> sometimes that means risking death >> getting the story, no matter what it takes >> that's what the forth estate is all about... that's why i'm risking my life... >> killing the messenger on al jazeera america this is al jazeera america, i'm tony harris with a look at today's top stories. ukraine's president says russia has invaded his country, saying troops are rolling in with tanks and military vehicles. dozens of peace keepers detained by an armed group at the border between israel and syria. and a new warning that the ebola outbreak can effect more than 20,000 people, six times the current amount, and a 66-year-old mystery solved. how boulders in death valley weighing more than 600 pounds managed to move across the dessert.
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first, a look now at the briefing room. we are anticipating comments on what a ukraine is calling a russian invasion of south eastern ukraine. the president will be working with the national security team, and also the isis threat in iraq, and syria. we will take you to the white house briefing room when we see the president. now the crieses took an ominous turn. russian forces have have eastern south eastern ukraine, in one what one of the militaries leaders calls a full scale invasion. 1,000 russian troops are operating in that area, the military alliance reare leased these images that say they are proof of a russian presence in eastern ukraine, al jazeera with the latest.
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>> there's little doubt that the crisis here is entered a new and very dangerous territory, on thursday. because of the language that's being used at the very highest level of the political sphere, no longer are we talking about rumors of russian involvement, with the separate ohs fighters here, there have been outright accusations and backed up apparently by clear cut satellite imagery evidence. that russian regular forces are fighting alongside separatist fighters here in the east. >> denying any russian regular troops are here in this area, but frankly the evidence is mounting,
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and quite how long russia can continue to deny what is becoming undeniable, is really a moot point. the reaction over the next 24 hours, 36 hours really could be very crucial, indeed. >> crucial indeed. all right, russia is responding to ukrainian accusations that troops have entered south eastern ukraine, more now from moscow. >> well, without a formal response from the russian parliament, to these allegations from kiev, that russia is involved in an invasion, of ukraine, russian parliament says she is sheer disinformation, issue add blanket denial and said that troops are not, and never have been on the ground inside ukraine. there was one glimpse of light, i suppose, today, where we learns that the russian general staffed and the ukrainian senior general staff met today for consultations about trying to come up with some sort of prisoner exchange. they both hold prisoners from each other's armies but all of this will not
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in anyway give any sort of encouragingment, to europe where red flags have been flying all day. lithuania and lav via are encouraging action by the security council. president allan in paris, said we are facing the worst crisis since the end of the cold war. the u.n. says 43 peace keepers have been detained by an armed group. they were abduct add number of hard line groups have been fighting the syrian government for control of that particular area. the latest for us. syria is getting closer to israel, this is how it looks from the israeli side, the smoke from the battle between the rebel groups is very close. on thursday, 43 u. n. peace keepers were taken hostages by some of the armed groups in the area. a day after armed rebels
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including al quaida affiliate, took over the only border crossing between syria and israel, from the syrian army. there are 43 troops from position 27 who are being detained in the vicinity. our understanding is they are now in the southern part of the area of separation. there are further 81 troops from the philippines who are having their movements restricted at positions 68, and 69 in the vicinity. clashes continued throughout the day, between the army and the armed groups making it more difficult, for the u.n. to verify what exactly happened along the border, or to continue the patrols along it. further in the north eastern part, there are different lines. this video shows the army soldiers cheating nor the islamic state group, no, sirred to do it, because they are prisoners of the
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i.s. the syrian observatory for human rights say dozens were later executed. at least 120 have been executed in the last four hours. the soldiers were captured after the i.s. took over a government air base following intense battles. more than 500 people were killed during that fight. from government forces all from other rebel groups. such video seem to serve the group, as it spreads fear among it's enemies and continues to advance on the ground. the u. n. says there were more than 1,000 deaths and injured last month alone, violence by the group, and other fighters is putting humanitarian operations at risk. continue to block access
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to the hard to reach governance of syria. isil are advancing towards the border crossings. along the main access routs. this could threaten the additional cross quarter operations authorized under security council operation. >> so that resolution has led to nine aid deliveries without serious approval. some held areas receive food and medical supplies for the first time since the war began. the u. n. is particularly worried about the islamic state groups rise in central syria, and iraq. president obama is meeting with his national security team right now, we understand, to discuss a u.s. action against that group, libby casey is life in washington, let me update this, i think we just received the two minute warning to the president coming out to the white house press briefing room. but what might we expect to be the lines of conversation in that national security meeting? >> you hear the president
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talk publicly about the situation in syria, as well as the situation in ukraine, and right after this, he will go into that meeting with his national security council, he will be joined by the likes of the vice president, the secretary of defense, and the secretary of state who will be there remotely, telephonically,s brought into the conversation. we know the president is weighing the option of air strikes in syria, he says no decision has been made yet. his team has said he hasn't even decided if he would consult with congress, so a lot of flux, and things in play right there, also the question of just what should be done about ukraine, samantha power was just speaking at this emergency meeting that the u.n. held, and so we are are hearing a lot of push back on putin's latest moves. samantha power saying that inaction is unacceptable when it comes to ukraine. >> let's do this, let's attempt to walk things up, the audience up to the president's comments maybe a minute or so from now, but be reminded that a minute could be five minutes.
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that council meeting a very interesting meeting indeed, the members were proofed. and part of that briefing contained information that suggests that over the last 72 hours as many as 1,000 regular troops are now actively engaged in fighting. ukrainian forces russia is blaming all of the trouble, all of the fighting on kiev, that it is kiev's fault, and that kiev is committing war against it's own people. we understand the president is now in the white house briefing room, let's take you to this live event. >> most americans care about is the economy. this morning we found out that the economy grew at a stronger chip in the second quarter than we thought. companies are investing. consumers are spending. over the past 4 1/2 years our businesses have now created near tone million new jobs so there are reasons to feel good about the direction we are headed. but, as everybody knows there's a lot more we should be doing to make sure that all-americans
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benefit from the progress that we have made. and i will will be pushing congress hard on this one to return next week. second, in iraq, our dedicated pilots and crewed continue to carry out the targeted strikes i authorized to protect americans there and address the humanitarian situation on the ground. as commander in chief, i will always do what is necessary to protect the american people. and defend against threats to our homeland. because of our strikes the terrorists of isil are losing arms and equipment, in some areas iraqi government and kurdish forces have begun to push them back. and we continue to be proud and grateful to our extraordinary personnel serving this mission. >> now, isil poses an immediate threat to the people of iraq, and the people throughout the region, and that's why our military action in iraq has to be part of a broader comprehensive strategy, to protect our people and to support our
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partner whose are taking the fight to isil. and that starts with iraq's leaders building on the progress that they made so far, and forming an inclusive government that will unite their country, and strengthen their security forces to confront isil. any successful strategy, though, also needs strong regional partners. i am encouraged so far, that countries in the region, countries that don't always agree on many things, increasingly recognize the privacy of the threat that isil poses to all of them. and i have asked secretary kerry to travel to the region to continue to build the coalition that is needed to meet this threat. as i have said, rooting out a cancer like isil will not be quick or easy, but i am confident we can working with our allying and partners. and our joint chiefs of staff to prepare a range of options. i will be meeting with my national security council again this evening as we continue to develop that strategy.
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finally i just spoke with chancellor merkel of germany on the situation in ukraine. we agree, if there was ever any doubt that rush are sha is responsibility for the violence in eastern ukraine. the vie lenes is encouraged by russia, the separatists are trained by russia, they are armed by russia. they are funded by russia. russia has deliberately violated the integrity of ukraine, and the new images of forces make that plain for the world to see. now, as a result, of the actions rush are sha has already taken, and major sanctions we have imimposed with our partners, russia is already more isolated than at any time the end of the cold war.
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capital is threing investors are staying out. the economy is in decline. and this on going russian encorings into ukraine will only bring more costs and consequences for russia. next week, i will be in europe to coordinate with our closest allie allies ad partners. i will reaffirm our commitment to the defense of the allies at the nato summit, will focus on the additional steps we can take to ensure for any challenge. our meeting of the commission will be another opportunity for the alliance to continue our partnership with ukraine, and i look forward to reaffirming the united states, to ukraine and it's people when i welcome the president to the white house next month. so, with that, i am going to take a few questions and i am going to start, with somebody who i guess is now a big cheese, he has moved on. but i understand there's
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going to be his last chance to ask me a question in the press room, so i want to congratulate chuck todd, and give him first dibs. >> let me start with syria. the decision that you have to make between -- first of all, is it an if or when situation about going after isil, can you defeat isil without going after them? and then how do you prioritize that ha sad has lost legitimacy. defeating them could keep has sad keep power. >> first of all, i want to make sure everybody is clear on what we are doing now. our focus is to protect american personnel on the ground in iraq. protect our embassy, to
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protect our to make sure that -- critical infrastructure that could adversely effect our personnel is protected. where we see an opportunity, that allowed us with very modest risk, to help the humanitarian situation, there as we did. our core is to make sure that our folks are safe, and to do an effective assessment of iraqi and kurdish capabilities. >> as i said, i think in the last press conference. in order for us to be successful we have to have an iraqi government that is unified and inclusive. so we are continuing to push them to get that done, as soon as we have an iraqi government in place, the likelihood of the iraqi security forces
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being more effective in taking the fight to isil, significantly increases. and the options that i am asking for from the joint chiefs focusing primarily on making sure that isil is not overrunning iraq. what is true, though, is that the violence that's been taking place in syria in undeveloped spaces, and in order for us to degrade isil over the long term, we are going to have to build a regional strategy. now, we aren't going to do that alone. we have to do that with other partners. particularly sunni partners p many because part of the goal is to make sure that sunnies and in iraq, feel as they have they have an investment in a government that functioning.
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that are safe from the acts we have seen in isil. and right now, those structures are not in place. and that is why the issue with respect to syria is not simply a military, it is also political. it is also an issue that involved all the sunni states and sunni leadership recognizing that this cancer, that has developed is one they have to be just as invested in. and so -- to cut to the chase in terms of what maybe your specific concerns, chuck, my priority at this point, is to make sure that the gains that isil made in iraq, are rolled back, and that iraq has the opportunity to govern itself effectively and secure itself.
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what i said at the national defense college, clearly isil has come to represent the very worst elements in the region, that we have to deal with collectively. it will require us to stabilize in some fashion, means that we have to get moderate sunnies who are able to govern, and offer a real alternative, and competition to what isil has been doing in some of these spaces. now, last point, with respect to asaad. it's not just my preponderance, i think, it would be international opinion, that asaad has lost legitimacy, in terms of dropping barrel bombs on innocent families, and killing tens of thousands
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of people. and right now, what we are seeing is the areas that isil is occupying, are not controlled by asaad anyway. and frankly, asaad doesn't seem to have the capability or reach to get into those areas. so i don't think there's a situation where we have to choose between asaad or the kinds of people who carry on the incredible violence that we have been seeing there. we will continue to support a moderate p osix inside of syria, in part because we have to give people inside syria a choice other than isil or asaad. and i don't see any scenario in which asaad is able to bring peace and stability to a region that is majority sunni,
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and has not so far shown any willingness to share power with them or any kind of significant way deal with the long standing grievances that they have. >> [inaudible question]. >> you know. i have consulted with congress throughout this process. i am confident as commandner chief, i have the authorities to engage in the acts that we are conducting currently. as our strategy developed, we will continue to consult with congress, and i do think that it will be important for congress to weigh in, and -- or that our consultations with congress, continue to develop. i don't want to put the cart before the horse. what i have seen in some of the news reports,
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suggests that folks are getting further ahead of where we are. and i think that's just not my assessment, but the military as well. we need to make sure we have clear plans so that we are developing them. at that point, i will consult with congress. and make sure that their voices are heard. but there's no point in me asking for action on the part of congress, before i know exactly what it is that is going to be required fortous be et the job done. coli mccain nielson. >> do you consider today's escalation in ukraine an invasion, and when you talk about additional costs to rush are sha, are are you ready at this point, to impose broader sames or are you considering broading sames? >> i consider the actions we have seen a continuation of what has
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been taking place for months now. as i said, in my opening statement, there is no doubt that this is not a home grown indigenous upprizing in eastern ukraine. this separatists, are backed, trained armed, financed, by russia. throughout this process, we have seen deep russian involvement in everything they have done. i think in part because of the progress that we have seen by the ukrainians, around donetsk, russia determined it lad to be more overt in what it had already been doing. but it isn't really a shift. what we have seen is that president putin, and russia, have repeatedly
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passed by potential overarches to resolve this. and so in our consultations with the our european allies and partners my expectation is that we will take additional steps primarily because we have not seen any meaningful action, on the part of russia to try to resolve this in a diplomatic fashion. and i think the sanctions we have applied have been effective. our bell jens says they know they have been effective. even though it may not appear on russian television. and i think there are ways nor us to deepen or expand the scope of some of that work. but ultimately, i think what is important to recognize, is the degree to which russian decision making is isolating
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russia. they are doing this to themselves. what i have been encouraged by is the degree to which our partners recognize even though they are bearing a cost, in implementing these sanctions, they understand that a broader principle is at stake. and so i look forward to the consultations we will have when i see them next week. >> in the your response to chuck's question, you said you don't have a strategy you will reconsider that going forward, why do you need to go to congress -- do you not believe that's the case any more, what you said last year, and throughout your career, you have also said that -- raised concerns with the expansion of powers a the executive, are you considered that
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you had maybe against that? >> no. and here is why. it is not just part of my responsibility, but it is a sacred duty for me to protect the american people. and that requires me to racket fast, based on the information i receive. if an embassy of ours, is being threatened. the decisions i made were based on very concrete assessments. about the possibility that it might be jeff run. in the kurdish region, and that our consolate could be in danger and i can't afford to wait, in order to make sure that those folks are protected. but, throughout this process we have con sacramentoed closely with congress, and the feedback i have gotten is that we are doing the
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right thin. now, as we go forward, as i described to chuck, and look at a broader regional strategy, with an international coalition, and partners. to systematically degrayed the capacity to engage in the terrible violence and disruptions that they have been engaging in, not just in syria, not just in iraq, but potentially elsewhere, if we don't nip this in the bud. then those consultations with congress for something that is longer term i think become more relevant. and it is my intention that congress has to have some buy in as representatives of the american people, and by the way, the american people need to hear what that strategy is. but as i said, to chuck, i don't want to put the cart before the horse. and in some of the media reports the suggestion seems to have been that
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we are about to go full scale on an elaborate strategy, for defeating isil. and the suggestion has been that we will start moving forward. eminently, and somehow congress still out of town will be left in the dark. that's not what is going to happen. we will continue to focus on protecting the american people, we will continue where we can, to engage in the sort of humanitarian acts that saved so many folk whose were trapped on a mountain. we are going to work politically and diplomatically with folks in the region. and we will cobble the coalition we need for a long term strategy, as soon as we are able to fit together the military, political, and economic components, of that strategy. there will be a military aspect to that.
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and it's going to be important for congress to know what that is in part, because it may cost some money. i will take a couple more. >> most of the weapons the u.s. weapons that they have, they acquired it from [inaudible]. and also the iraqi president said today that the forces are in no position to stand up to isil. what makes you think that forming a new government, will change this? once isil got into mosul, that caused a big problem. no doubt they were able to capture weapons and resources that they can use to finance additional operations. and at that stage, we immediately contacted the iraqi government, keep in mind, we have been in communications with the government for more than a year.
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indicating that we saw significant problems in the sunni areas. prime minister maliki was not as responsive as we would have like the political grievances that existed at the time. there is no doubt that in order for iraq security forces to be successful, they are going to need help. they will need help from us, from our international partners. they are going to need aeditional training and equipment. and we are going to be prepaid to offer that support. there may be a roll for an international coalition providing additional air support. for their operations. but the reason it is so important that an iraqi government be in place, is this is not simply a military problem. the problem we have had consistently is a sunni population, that feels
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alienated from baghdad and does not feel invested. in what is happening. and does not feel as if anybody is looking out for them. if we can get a golf, in place that provides sunnies some hope, that a national government serves their interests. if they can regain some confidence and trust that it will follow through, in 20007 and eight. about how you arrive at for example, the laws. and give people opportunities so they are not locked out of positions. if those things are followed through on, and we are able to combine it with a sound military strategy, then i think we can be successful.
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the idea that any outside power would perpetcallly we can keep a lid on things, but then as soon as we lead, the same problems come back again. so we have to make sure that iraqis understand, in the end they are going to be responsible for their own security, and part of that is going to be the capacity for them to make compromises. it also means that states in the region stop being ambivalent about these extremist groups. the truth is that we have had state actors who at times have thought that the way to advance their
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interests is well, financing somebody's groups as proxies is not such a bad strategy. and part of our message to the entire region is this should be a wakeup call to sunni, to shiite. to everybody that a group like isis is beyond the pail. that they have no vision or ideology beyond violence, and chaos, and the slaughter of innocent people. and as a consequence, we have to all join together, even if we have differences on a range of political issues to make sure that they are rooted out, okay. last question. >> mr. president. >> last question. >> mr. president, despite all of the actions they have taken to get russia to pull back from ukraine, russia seems intent on taking one step
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after another, convoys, transport of arms, at what point, do sanctions no longer work? would you envision the possibility of a necessity of military action to get russia to pull back? >> we are not taking military action to solve the ukrainian problem. what we are doing is to mobilize the international community to apply pressure on russia. but i think it is very important to recognize that a military solution to this problem is not going to be forthcoming. now the fact that russian has taken these actions and the integrity of the ukrainians. has resulted, i belief, in a weakening of russia, not a strengthening. that may not be apparent immediately. but i think it will
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become increasingly apparent. what it has also done is -- isolated russia from it's trading partners. it's commercial partners. international business, in what is happening is wrong, there is a solution -- but it is not in the cards for us to see a military confrontation between russia and the united states in this region. a number of those states close by are. and we take our article five commitments to defend each other very seriously. and that includes the
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small estimate toe member, as well as the largest nato member. and so part of the reason i think this meeting is going to be so important, is to refocus attention on critical function that nato plays to make sure that every country is contributing in order to deliver on the promise of our article knife insurances. we don't have those treaty obligations with ukraine. in dealing with admittedly what is a difficult situation. >> a briefing room,
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ukraine and isil,/isis. dominating the president's comments as we expected, maybe the headline as we bring in libby casey here, we are not taking military action to solve the ukraine problem, maybe that's the big take away. maybe that's the headline from at least the president's comments about ukraine this afternoon. he did point out there is a nato meeting next week, the u.s. will be a part of that, and he said even though ukraine isn't part of the article 5 of the responsibilities they are looking at other nations. he is crediting them with success, but the critics say they are not going far enough, like senator
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john mccain, he says they need to be a lot deeper. the president said, though, that russia in no uncertain terms that russia is responsibility for what is happening in ukraine. and this is significant, because he said that they are the one whose are -- were pulling the strings. this is not just about a uprising. not just as dissension. >> can i stop you right there, i know the president is talking about immigration, i know this is something that david chuter is following, i want to hear the president's comments now. don't go away. >> a problem, in a fairly defined area of the border that we are starting to deal with that in a serious way. what we have seen so far, is throughout the summer, the number of apprehensions have been decreasing. maybe that's counter intuitive, but that's a good thing, because that means fewer folks are coming across. the number of apprehensions are down
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from july, and they are lower than they were august of last year. apprehensions in july are half of what they were in june, so we are seeing a significant downward trend in terms of these children. and what that i think allows us to do, is to make sure those kids are being taken care of, properly, with dew process. at the same time, it has allowed us about what we need to do to get more resources down at the border. it would have helped along if congress has voted for the supplemental i asked for, they did not, that means we have to make administrative choices about getting more immigration judges down there. so that has kept us busy. but it has not stopped, the process of looking more bradley about how do we get a smarter immigration system in place, while we are waiting for congress to
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act. it continues to be my belief, if i can't see action, i need to do at least what i can, in order to make the system work better. but, you know, some of these things do effect time lines and we will be working through, similarmatically as possible, in order to get this done. put have no doubt, in the absence of congressional action, i will do what i can to make sure the system works better. in order da make the system move a little bit better on the immigration front, the number of children coming into the country, is going down, and has been dropping during the summer months. the president making some final comments there taking a question on immigration. and what he might do moving forward. immaterial to get back to libby casey on the two key components. obviously isil, isis.
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the president said was reluctant. what is happening in southeast ukraine. it says it is rah continuation of what is going on for months now. and then he went on to highlight the support that russia has been giving to the separatists. >> that's right. the door was opened for him. >> it was. >> is this an invasion, and he did not walk through that, so he did not use that specific language which is significant. and he kept going back to the idea that it's a coalition of partners that are working to get these sanctions hitting russia where it hurts. they say they are doing this to themselves and he says he does believe it is having an impact, even if they aren't showing that even if the russian government isn't letting on.
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the violence is engaged couraged by rush are sha, the separatists are trained by russia. they are armed by russia. they are funded by russia. russia has deliberately violated the integrity of ukraine. >> okay, the president's comments now in ukraine, let's turn to i.s.i.l., let's turn to i. s.i.s., and iraq and syria. the president says that in a threat assessment, that isil, is a threat, to iraq, and that's clear now, at this point, and also the entire reare john, and that he is sending secretary kerry back to the region to work with regional players. >> that's right. and there are a couple of different things in play.
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talking about the formation of a government, and how the state could jeopardize that. that's different than what we have heard from members of his team, top defense official whose say the state is a threat far beyond iraq. far beyond syria's borders it is a threat to people in the united states, frankly. >> yes. >> so we see the president talking about it, in context of iraq, but not giving any indication at this point, if he is going to move to deal with the bigger question of the islamic state and the threat that it poses in a place like syria, as it grows. he focused on political solutions, on trying to win over the sunni population to show them. >> right. >> that there is room for them, and the iraq government, that there is a future in syria. he did say that military action is a part of this, but it is just one component, that the white house is trying to put in a box and show there are
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other tools that they want to be able to use as well. >> all right, so let's listen to the president moments ago, talking about and assessing where isil is in iraq, and what needs to happen in order to tackle the isil, the islamic state group threat. i am confident that we will can and will, working closely with our allies and partners. so far i have directed our joint chiefs of staff, to prepare a range of options i will be meeting with my national security as we continue to develop that strategy. consulting with members of congress, and i will continue to do so in the days ahead.
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involvement in any decisions related to syria, but also even when it comes to iraq, we are seeing a growing number say we would like to debate this and discuss it. the top democrat in the house today, said we do want to see a vigorous debate of this, she didn't go so far as to say she wants to see a vote on any more action, air strikes but she did say, she wants congress to have a roll. forty-five little bit of danger, is congress really willing and interested in taking votes on going and executing things like air strikes right before the
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midterm election. they have to wait the politics of this as well. >> libby appreciate it, good to see you. ukraine says russia has directly invaded with dozen of military vehicles we will look at the worldwide response that's next.
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returning to our top story, held an emergency meeting today to discuss the crisis in ukraine, the meeting is called after ukraine said that russian troops had entered the eastern -- they got the south eastern part of the country, ambassadors from both countries traded accusations. they have been shelling civilly in the quarters they are using artillery, munitions with phosphorus and other weapons. >> with all the documentation, they are belonging to russian forces. >> joining me with more on this, is james -- he
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is back with us. he is deputy director of the american institute, and james, you know, the briefing to members of the security council. in that briefing, we learned that of the last 72 hours 1,000 regular russian troops are now fighting ukrainian troops. is that's not an invasion, what is it. >> well, it's interesting that president obama did not call it an in -- during his comments. in, he hardly referred to this, that's being presented to the security council, as proof. and i think frankly, i am skeptical about it. >> tell me why. >> because i remember a year ago, this administration was saying precisely the same thing, about the proof we had about use of chemical weapons by asaad, and it turns out the proof was not very convincing and it may have been the other side.
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i am very skeptical of these claims when the president himself did not see fit to mention this. instead he talked to his old talking points. >> is that the separatist are being backed, trained, armed by russia. >> right. >> and it is interesting you compare that his excepts on syria, we back, train, and arm insurgents in syria, does that mean they have no local roots. he said the asaad government has lost legit, well, the kiev is bombing civilians, to prevend that this is all about russia has nothing to do with people in eastern ukraine is simply. >> so do you -- are you buying into the line from russia that a lot of this is disinformation? that we have satellite
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photographs proving that the russian troops are there, and as i say, that's what we heard a year ago about syria, let's wait and see what this proof is, as far as the assistance to the insurgence, i don't think anybody doubts. that some level is being given to those insurgents as we give assistance to insurgence in syria. i think that's a different matter and this is something that has been talked about for some time by washington and our european allies and their only response is let's slap some sanctions on and see if that will force moscow to back down on a matter that for them, is a fundamental matter of national security unlike our interest in syria. >> and the russians are saying where is the inclusive government. >> that's right. >> what came out of tuesday's meeting, between the ukrainian president, and the russian president, that there was at some point, a by lateral meeting with those two in the room talking face to face, what came out of that.
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>> well, they talk face to face, but they passed each other. they are mostly about trade, we are talking about his peace plan. and again, comparing it to what president obama said. he says there's no military solution to ukraine, but they are still banking on a military solution in eastern ukraine, even though that looks less and less likely. a continuation of what has been going on for months and we are not taking actions to solve the problem so are we talking about status quo? more aiken to any invasion, what would you be saying to us at that point? i think p president is very clear. that we don't have a commitment to ukraine. i would rather not
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mention their name whose would like to see military steps. the idea that we would have a military confrontation over ukraine i hi is in a word insane. >> all right, james, good to see you again. he is the deputy director of the american institute in ukraine, joining us, good to see you again, thank you, sir. >> still ahead, st. louis police officer darren wilson, joins us. that's not the right picture. he is the same name but he is not the officer that shot michael brown. the negative backlash he received anyway, and the issue of diversity in the police department.
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hear in a peace deal. fighting talk. so a long address here, another political claim, to victory, and really an indicator of a massive job ahead in reaching an agreement in these peace talks when they finally get down to issues. >> a lawsuit was filed today against the police department in ferguson missouri. the lawsuit from the group from black lawyers of justice a heavily armored police force violated protestor's civil rights. those broke out after the death of unarmed black teenager. no, not the one you would be thinking of, the officer who fatally shot mike brown, but another darren wilson, who was believed for a period of time to be the ferguson police officer. darren, good to talk to you, thank you for your time. so sergeant what has been your experience from
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that -- i am thinking from that friday, maybe it was the 14th or 15th on, you remember the news conference, where the ferguson police chief released the video. surveillance video there the froesery store there on florence avenue, and the name of the officer who was involvinged in the shooting darren wilson, and your phone, i imagine, lit up. absolutely, and thank you for having me. yeah, it did. i wasn't watching the conference, and it was early morning where i was, it was early morning and my phone just starting ringing ripping off the hook, and i said hey, something is wrong, so when i answered several people were telling me they had just named me as the officer that was involved in the shooting. that had killed michael brown. >> what is your -- what was your experience? and then, more importantly, what was the take away? is i understand you receive text messages a
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lot were forwarded to you. give us a sense of the messages you received i know that some of them were hateful. >> yeah, it was crazy for a while. a lot of people were concerned and they started forwarding the messages they had found at the scene, so after first hearing about this, and i started getting all the calls saying hey you need to take this seriously, you are being named and people are mad, so i took it upon myself to issue a statement on my organizes website, the ethical society of police in st. louis, issue as public statement indicating that rest assured i am not the officer that was involved because we have a pretty strong following. so after that, i was able to see where a lot of people had logged on to that, and made excepts on the threat. of that message. some of them were pretty egregious. >> threats against your life. >> i did get some pretty
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strong and hateful messages. one where they wanted to tie me up in a tortured fashion. >> okay, that's fine. >> what are your thoughts -- did the ferguson police department has receive add lot of criticism, for how it experienced this case, a sergeant with the police department, what are your thoughts on how the ferguson police department handled the aftermath of the shooting. >> well, i have some pretty strong thoughts and residenter vases about it. the my organization which is the ethical society of police that i represent, also has shared a lot of their discontent with it. you can't neglect the people, and it appears as though there was a total disregard for that community. what are your thoughts on
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the police temperature, and maybe even your police department in st. louis. >> absolutely, good question. it is across the country. when this all occurred i was attending a conference in los angeles, and what we learned is that is a common sentiments across the nation. with that being said, you have a disconnect with the police department and the community. what needs to happen now, definitely some changes in ferguson. this is a conversation that my organization has been having with my own police officials our police commenders and staff, and etch the mayor's office, up through the congressman's office, unfortunately, this occurred but it is timely, because it just shows in reenforces the message that we have been
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pushing for quite some time. >> sergeant wilson, dish wilson, appreciate your time. sergeant wilson of the st. louis police department. good to see you, inside story is next on al jazeera america. russian incur jens, probes aid convoys whatever they are, they are now morphed into something else, what more and more in ukraine, and western capitals seem comfortable with calling an invasion. it is inside story.