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here are stories we are track. turkey goes to the polls. media is in government's site. two reporters casualties of war. were they used as human shields. washington has rules for the n.s.a., and daniel ellsberg who blue the whistle has plenty to say about that, edward snowden and the situation. >> the situation is dangerous on the internet inspiration comes in many forms. you won't find any in this video sometimes it's hard to tell in recep tayyip erdogan is a politician or media critic. turks go to the polls sunday june 7th. president recep tayyip erdogan, who used to be prime minister wants the ak party to win enough seats to change the constitution and secure a new role for the presidency, which is a ceremonial position largely. recep tayyip erdogan's name is not on the ballot, but there's no more prominent figure in the campaign. president recep tayyip erdogan, and to a lesser extent the prime
minister, have been fixated on the media the way the ak party is covered inside turkey and without. in the past week. recep tayyip erdogan publicly accused the editor of espionage and slammed the "new york times" for holding a grudge against him and turkey. you find a littony of accusations, arrests. recep tayyip erdogan targeted media outlets associated with the reclusive us-based cleric go horks lin. they are turned and recep tayyip erdogan accuses the movement of trying to form a parallel state to bring down the government. there's a lot on the line in the election. including the future of turkish journalism. the starting point is istanbul on may 25th, two weeks before the election president
recep tayyip erdogan went after the "new york times". over an editorial entitled "dark clouds over turkey", he said the paper was meddling in turkey's affairs, referring to the brute manipulation of the process. his long history of intimidation and coopting the media and how the president is hostel to truth telling tuckey has 17 channel, and recep tayyip erdogan has taken issue with many of them. on this occasion, when he said the times overstepped limits of freedom, he chose a different target, a strategic one. >> translation: recep tayyip erdogan's strategy is to create enemies, and uses enmity through the united states, via the "new york times", to create it feeling of a leader standing up
to the world. whereas we know very well that he came to power with u.s. support, and with the enormous credit given to him by the american press, of which the "new york times" is a part. now he is trying to make us forget that. >> translation: the "new york times" went too far by describing recep tayyip erdogan as a dictator or intending to be one. i think this is a premeditated campaign against the government. in the u.s., and in other countries, media groups cooperate with a parallel state in turkey turkey has seen press elections dropping of over the past three years the country gaoled as many if not more journalists than china, which has 20 times the population. the government has been so
heavy-handed with media outlet that self-censorship is right, to the extent when the protests erupted in 2013, many d their best to cover the story. at least initially until protesters talked them into doing their jobs. self censorship is rude in self-interest. most media interests in turkey are owned by conglomerates, investment in media is minute compared to other holdings, many of which do big business with the governments and don't want news outlets to jeopardise that. dowan holdings owns huliac. when the paper referred to death. it referred to mohamed mursi winning 52% of the vote, the figure recep tayyip erdogan polled in 2014. the picture didn't feature mohamed mursi, it was recep tayyip erdogan.
a lawyer on acting on recep tayyip erdogan's behalf went to prosecutors demanding an investigation, saying the paper incited an armed rebellion, spreading proppa behindist. and banned the company bidding on government contract. another paper, jim hudiat published visions fro 2013, showing turk your intelligence delivering weapons to syria. recep tayyip erdogan called it slander, an act of the espionage and said the editor would pay a price. the journalists went on the front page saying that the turkish media were under pressure. >> translation: we recorded, documented, and showed our readers a crime. because they were caught in the act before an election recep tayyip erdogan got into a panic and made the accusations, raising the intensity of criticism and pressure levelled at the media. we are talking about a
government increasingly becoming an authoritarian regime, so they are becoming a life and death struggle. if they lose the election, they'll be called to account for many things. in turkey the press is free in all areas, as far as we are concerned. unless there's defamation exceeding the limits of criticism. turkey is an open society, and there's newspapers with different orientations. it's not a place where someone is prosecuted for criticizing the president. if there are nose going beyond criticism and engage in defamation, he can bring a case against them the government has other ways. in 2009, when the owners dowan holdings fell out with recep tayyip erdogan, they were hit with a billion fine for back taxes. these days the government's big
fight is with media groups associated with the islamic cleric whose religious and social movement runs schools in turkey and elsewhere. like dolan, the ghoolan movement backed recep tayyip erdogan. and helped to get the ak party elected, before they fell out and media outlets were crit equal. the government calls ghoolanists a parallel state. news rooms affiliated with them were arrested. >> translation: the organization is linked to broadcast, newspaper and television. and they openly report against the government. before an election they report news in a manner that supports the opposition. they are being investigated by the judiciary.
we, in the administration believe it's important to leave it to the judiciary. >> first of all, the coolanist does not accept are the media. there's no such an operation. the main group may take inspiration from ghoolan inside. in terms of ownership, they have no impact on any of these. >> when coolanist news outlets fuelled the wrath of the government. denying that it's interfering with the judicial process, the ghoolanists forget a piece of context, which is difficult to deny. >> >> translation: if ghoolanist media are in recep tayyip
erdogan's sites, it's those that he raised, now accusing of treasury. the ak party and the ghoolanist ran the port together for years. then there was an economy of interest, and recep tayyip erdogan declared it an enemy, a group that supported him wholeheartedly, that grew and prospered under his wing. the crime is that they stayed silent about pressure on journalists when not directed against them it is against that media landscape that the turks cast their ballots. an outright war. a tangled web of corporate accounts trying to report on politics, and a president accused at home and abroad of growing more author tarian. that's the media story, but not juf journalists are in a position to tell is
on the download - our viewers on the coverage of the turkish election. >> when recep tayyip erdogan campaigned for the justice and development party, he reached out to the media to get out his message. we see a different recep tayyip erdogan, one that clamps down media, free speech and poses censorship and gaols journalists. it has to do with the style of leadership resonating with the constituency in the heartland.
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bbc fm radio broadcasts into rwandan have been blocked by rwanda due to abuse of press freedom. following "rwanda's untold story", broadcast last year, an investigative croup was set up. the film suggested that the president and rwanda patriotic front had a hand shooting don a plane that triggered the genocide. the number of tutsis killed has been questioned. a spokesman reported: p fake news websites are proliferating and public and media confuse stories for
genuine articles. the latest is jack warner, former vice president of f.i.f.a., indicted. he tried to defend himself through a home-made video. citing a news piece, quoting "the onion", a fake portal. in 2012 china's people dally announced ta kim jong un was the sexist man alive and ran a 55 photo slide show. sometimes it's western publications that take the bait. in 2013, the pan inquiry, a middle eastern onion reported that emirates airlines was about to introduce smoke lounges. fact on june 5th, 2013, two years ago this week edward snowden, a former u.s.
national security agency contractor revealed that the n.s.a. was tracking americans phone measures and collecting emails through a series of tools. this week the u.s. congress handled the whistleblower a small victory, refusing to renew clauses in the patriot act. it passed the freedom act, meaning the n.s.a. will need a court oort br acquiring the phone records of americans. daniel ellsberg nose what edward snowden is going through. he was the first whistleblower prosecuted, the source for the papers, which in 1973 which revealed a different picture of the vietnam war, which was unwinnable as americans were told. in 1975 when the last american soldiers were airlifted out of the ellsberg was credited with helping to end the war.
he faced legal consequences for blowing the whistle. ellsberg, in his 80s, reemerged from retirement in california as ab advocate for those that want to get the truth out, and spend the past week on a 4-city whistle-stop tour in support of whistle blowers. we sat with him in london. daniel ellsberg, it's nice to have you on "listening post". we tried to get new the chair before, it's taken a while. >> glad to be here, thank you can we start to winding back to the first time you opened a newspaper, went online and flipped on the television and saw the edward snowden. take me back to that day, and tell me whether you saw a little doing? >> very much. i identify strongly with edward snowden, and chelsea manning. when shell si manning said to her -- chelsea manning said to her informant, she was ready to go to prison or be executed -
quote - to get out the information, i thought i hadn't heard anyone else say that, which is the way i felt. it had taken a long time to hear someone else act on that. i thought it might be another 40 years. three years went by, and we had edward snowden. i was happy it took someone less than 40 years for edward snowden, as he put it, saying for. >> you said there's no material difference in what you did, the information you released and what manning or edward snowden made available. in your case there were 7,000 pages of documents. you read every one before times". there are hundreds of thousands of documents in edward snowden's case, more than a million in mannings. is there not a case to be made that what they did mite have been a tad more reckless than what you did in 1971.
>> there's certainly risks in it, in that they couldn't judge entirely obviously what problems mite arise from some material they hadn't red in detail. if they asked me to put it out. i would have been reluctant to put out material i had not read. i wouldn't have done it as a matter of fact. in retrospect, having seen what was charged, and what actually happened, i was too cautious. >> what it comes down to, they justed the journalists that they were going to work with. they entrusted wiki leeks and "the guardian," and "new york times," i would say you can afford to trust their judgment. i would trust with experience manning's judgment and snowden's judgment, and the judgment of editorial staff and news staff
that can go over the material, assign people to look at it, retacted. >> i think they did it right. instincts. >> you took your story to the "new york times". edward snowden avoided doing that saying he had problem with some of the times's journalism from 2004 through to 2006 when they had a story on warrantless swir tapping and held it at the behest of the administration until after the elections, how different a journalistic institution is the "new york times" today to the one it was in 1971, when you were dealing with it. >> 9/11 intervened. the media is more frayed. we will -- more afraid. we'll blame you for the next terrorist attack, if there is one, you can be sure the press
will be blamed. president obama has not reframed from saying he will be responsible - you will be responsible if you let the patriot act expire, and that threat makes people heel. it's like whipping them into servility. it's not so much the times that changed, it's the environment congress refused to renew the sunset clause, and then came the freedom act. the phone records would no longer be collected and held by the n.s.a., it will be held by the phone companies, leaving the option to go through the process to get at the phone. edward snowden's lawyer said that this is one small step in what should be a long ladder of meaningful surveillance reform. how small a step is it? taken? >> i saw someone called it an historic baby step. that's the most you could say for it.
to the extent that the mass surveillance continues, basically, whoever holds it. it is accessible to the n.s.a., in, of course, with a warn. that's the only way it could be accessible. i would say, essentially, we are seeing no change whatever, so far. the entire struggle remains to be fought on the issue. we wouldn't have seen that change and that effort without snowden. more and more prominent voices in america came out in support of the edward snowden, it shows that there is a momentum there. >> a movement, yes. >> if you are an american whistleblower, and you have secrets you'd like to divulge, and you see that edward snowden is not in hawaii with his girlfriend, he's in moscow. the chill remains. >> the chill is there, it's more chilling than before. telling secrets of the organization to outsiders is not a good career move.
if you add the classification issue in the national security issue, you would be called a straiter in the most serious sense, in a technical sense. what is new under obama being prosecuted and the likelihood of going to prison for a long time, whether it's 32 months like john kiriako who revealed the name of a torturer. jeffrey stirling, 42 months, a real whistleblower. chelsea manning. the situation has gotten more dangerous for whistleblowers, no question about it. edward snowden, i think, would have to look forward to life in prison recently you turned 84 years of age. you are touring your europe. enforcity is in a week, talking about the issues. aren't you at the stage of your life where you should spend more life with your grandchildren, and you live in california,
working on your golf swing. what keeps you out here? >> i'll supposed to be spending my time on - as my publisher nose, on a deadline extended several times. what keeps me from doing that is that the issues keep arising, and that's my excuse how come you are at it, we say they are still at it, we are still at it. >> i look norwood to talking to you again when the book comes out. it's been a real pleasure. >> thank you. >> we're here to fully get into the nuances of everything that's going on not just in this country but around the world. getting the news from the people who are affected. >> people need to demand reform... >> ali velshi on target weeknights 10:30p et
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