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>> today's ruling that gay and lesbian couples have the right to marry in all 50 states set up celebrations and weddings from washington d.c. to new york city to michigan to san francisco and beyond. listen to some of the reactions from around the country. >> i'm excited i can finally marry the person i love. >> i feel like my constitution loves me now. >> to be in the middle of where it began is as you are reel. >> growing up in oklahoma i never thought this day would come. it's just overwhelming. it's wonderful. >> now the court's decision represents a major victory for supporters of gay rights. president obama said when all americans are treated as equal we're all more free.
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the president announced his support of same-sex marriage in 2012 after struggling for years with the issue. gay marriage is now legal in 13 states where it was banned including the four that brought cases before the court, kentucky, michigan, ohio, tennessee. and today it represents a huge transformation in american attitudes towards home sexuality. it's been a long, slow, and painful process. >>reporter: in this 1961 film, a california police department warns boys about men with what it calls a sickness of the mind. >> one never knows when the homosexual is about. he may appear normal and it may be too late when you discover he's mentally ill. >>reporter: at the time, homosexual acts were illegal in every state. in this atmosphere, most gay people had no choice but to hide their sexual assault. >> if you were gay then, this
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was a horrible thing. >>reporter: but as the sexual revolution and the civil rights movement grew, so did the fight for gay rights. in 1969, new york city had the largest gay population in the u.s. gay men like martin boyce socialize at places like the stone wall in. >> it was exciting. there was no one group, no one could claim it as their own. >>reporter: police routinely raided the inn because gay bars could not get lick or the licenses. >> that night we had, had enough. this pent up rage. i don't think we knew it was in us. >>reporter: a crowd of gay supporters joined here forcing police to barricade themselves
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inside. the protest turned violent. how did stone wall transform the gay rights movement in the u.s.? >> it gave us courage to go on and just get the basic rights of at least some sort of respect. >>reporter: cathy is a former spokeswoman for the gay and lesbian rights group glad. >> that was a moment where there was a big raising of consciousness about lgbt people existing. >>reporter: then in 1981 came news of what the new york cancer called a rare cancer killing gay men. >> the aids pan dellic started. >> lost half my friends. it was so awful. it accelerated greatly the organization of the lgbt
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community and movement. >>reporter: he has witnessed changes like these as the author of this 1973 coming out memoir when he brother the best little boy in the world he used a pen name. in 1998, it was published under his real name. >> the world changed and people cot to know u.s. it's easy to demonize something you don't know. >>reporter: in 1993, as many as 1 million people marched through washington for gay rights. the next year it was ordered for the military to allow gays to serve as long as they hid their sexuality. a policy called don't ask, don't tell. then in 2010, the president signed legislation allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly. and in the past decade, more than two-thirds of states have legalized same-sex marriage. >> what do you say to people who argue that same-sex marriages
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are immoral and nontraditional. >> then don't get same-sex married. that's fine. they don't have to go to weddings and they can be as bigoted as they want to be. >> today also offered a reminder that america's fight against bigotry is far from over. whose lives are most affected but for the politicians hoping to shape the country's future. the question now is how much the candidates for president will be
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swayed. al jazeera's political correspondent michael shore joins united states from l.a. how has today's decision changed the political landscape? >> i don't know that it's transform tav when you look at what happened with healthcare it makes it easier for republicans and democrats. when it comes to gay marriage, it's a different thing. i was on the floor today -- i was trying to gauge from him the feeling in his caucus about how -- whether it was a relief to them of what happened with obamacare. and then moving to gay marriage, an entire different thing. it was a wedge issue in 2004. but it's no longer a wedge issue. in the primaries you're going to see the most conservative amongst them going into these
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places and saying not only do we want to stop gay marriage, we want to store the
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as we go forward that the gop has a danger of risk of being on the wrong side of history here? >> well, you know, everyone who is on the wrong side of history doesn't show up as being on that wrong side until years later looking back. he's not speaking necessarily to a wide swath of voters. he's speaking to very conservative voters who gave him the iowa caucus in 2008. he's won it before with that same methodology.
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now it almost makes it a more emerge nitty situation for him. >> this has been a big week for a court that seemingly is more liberal here despite the chief justice being a bush appointee. going forward in 2016, what do you see as the next steps in the campaign for the republicans? >> well, if they take this campaign into the sort of social more ras, it probably won't be successful for them. they're going to have to take the financial implications of some of these. the first thing that people are talking about is jobs and money. that's what they need to focus on. in a general election, it never
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will be successful for them in such a divided country right now. >> is that it for news impacting politics this summer? typically this is a slow political season in the summer. >> typically also these elections start after labor day and we started them before memorial day. so it's going to be a very different kind of summer i would imagine. this is going to keep going even with congress on recess. there's going to be infighting in the republican party. you're already seeing that. ted cruz very pointedly saying to a group today, listen, if i get there, i'm going to go against our republican leadership. republicans going against republicans doesn't ever take a break. so i think you're going to see more political news this summer than you might. plus, we have somebody new running for president every week keeping the cycle going too. >> thank you very much. great insights. coming up on the day of this
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in the early 2000s, he was pursuing his dream of being on the big screen and enjoying life as a gay american seemingly. in 2009, he was in a serious relationship with a man. >> did you break up because upped to not be gay or for some other reason? >> i think i was already coming to that conclusion and then he ended up leaving me for somebody else. it was devastating at the time. so emotional.
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>> was it a shock when he left you? >> yeah. a little bit. just because things had gone from being really intimate to being almost total strangers overnight. i had gone through that experience before but this time it was really painful because it was so long. >> you haven't even looked at they. >> that was 2007. the same year he decided he didn't want to be gay anymore. despite the acceptance of gay americans, he devoted his life to ensuring -- arguing parents should have the option to put their children in so-called repair tav therapy >> this is what people really need versus same-sex marriage. i want this option to be available. i know it's the right choice for me and it's helped everybody i know that's ever gone to it. >> is it possible you just had a
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broken heart and just didn't want to go back to another man and wanted to leave the lifestyle? >> i mean, there's more to it than that one instance. for about ten years of my life, i was going back and forth and up and down living the gay life and feeling conflicted about it but not knowing how to control it or find healing and live the way i wanted to. >> he went through the treatment itself, and is now leading a dallas based ministry called joel 225 international posting videos like this after a two-day workshop praising the benefits of the therapy. >> before the weekend, i was 100% homosexual. there was no attraction to a woman at all. and the home sexuality was controlling my life. now it's more just a random thought every other week or so. >> he's also expanding his own
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ministry around the world. joel 225 gave us this map showing its global reach. it holds weekly video conferences with people wanting to lead hetero sexual lifestyles and connects them to real world groups. >> we have a gay arabic group, spanish group, french, german, russian. >> his success is frightening to james gay. he went to conversion therapy as a teenager. >> it's fraudulent. it was talk therapy for me. in my case, it wasn't any other therapy. but even words can damage. >> james is still scarred by attempts to turn him straight. he's launched his own group. >> we need to protect our lgbtq youth from this psych lodgely
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abusive practice. >> when i was in 5th and 6th grade i was made fun of every day, kicked, spit on, beaten up. there were a couple of times in the past when i did but with my faith it's really not appropriate for me to do that before marriage. >> do you get that urge for men sometimes? >> not as often as it was. about 10% in terms of frequency and intensity. usually it happens whenever i'm feeling lonely or feeling isolated or something has happened and i'm shaming myself about it. >> being gay doesn't work for you. >> the stakes are rising for jeremy. four men are suing claiming the new jersey based group knew it was impossible to change a person's sexuality and charged tens of thousands of dollars in
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allegedly traumatic therapies. jeremy testified at the trial. the defense presented him as a success story. >> are you a straight man or just not gay? >> i can say i'm straight. i don't know if that would say it in the same way everybody else is. but i think i was born to be. >> but if state law makers in the country have their way, fewer and fewer people have access to therapies like this or against openly bisexual governor voted to ban the practice in her state. >> if it is banned for children and adults, what do you do then? >> i guess i would just keep going until they lock me up in prison. >> so you're willing to go forward even if they say it's illegal for this therapy to
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exist? >> yes. >> why? >> it's necessary and helps people. >> and this is why he bes his ministry is so important right now. >> would you minister to someone via the internet? >> yes. there are counselors in other states and countries that talk to them and they can work through the internet that way. >> his fear and promise is simple. is america's licensed therapists can no longer practice this therapy, then people like him are vowing to file the void. now the plaintiffs have won so what do they expect? >> the payout is substantial. numerically, it's small, only about $70,000. but that's three times more than they paid for the service the new jersey court says is bogus. but it doesn't stop there. now the organization has to pay their attorney's fees and pay for counseling to counteract the
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affects. so this is really significant. >> do you think this will affect other rulings across the
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country. these types of things still exist. it's really troubling because on the one hand right now gay youth have never in the history of america been able to imagine a future very much like anyone else, marriage, children, open in the work place. and, yet, you still have this movement largely underground now to keep conversion therapy alive. the more chilling thing, david, is that because it's being outlawed, he's saying that he's going to take it underground, rely on international suppliers of this therapy, literally ship people from the u.s. who may not be comfortable with their sexual assault so they can undergo therapy that is in and of itself potentially dangerous. >> great. coming up, obamacare is here to stay but is it working? we'll take you to rural mississippi where doctors are still few and far between. manit.
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monday, 6:30 eastern. only on al jazeera america. on thursday, the u.s. supreme court made sure that 6.4 million people in 24 states still have access to subsidies they need to make healthcare available. it lends weight to the idea that the afford act is here to stay. thursday's ruling also raises a bigger question. will obamacare make people healthier? if people have health insurance they won't worry so much about paying a visit to the doctor meaning they could start getting
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more care but what happens if getting to the doctor is just as big of a problem as paying for it. ♪ >> it's often called the birth place of the blues. in the poverty stricken delta, these sounds are a well come distraction from joblessness. >> a lot of people that need insurance don't have it. i am one of it. >>reporter: many in mississippi's poor and rural areas often have trouble seeing a position. the state has eight doctors for every ten thousand residents. that's compared to the national average of nearly 13.
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>> just one doctor was registered in sharky county home to nearly 5,000 people. in another cupty, there were two where 9,000 people were registered. >> it's areas without a lot of transportation, there's not public transportation so people have trouble getting to providers and there's not a large number of providers and particularly specialists. >>reporter: so we're driving through the mississippi delta right now and if you look around you can really get a sense of just how rural this place is. access to care and primary physicians are some of the big considerations people are confronted with. many say when they get sick they often have just one choice for treatment. >> go to the emergency room. >> but that's not cheap.
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a trip to the er is $1,233. that's 40% higher than the average american's monthly rent. >> kind of works out good for a guy like me in the event of an emergency but it really doesn't do anything as far as i have know -- as far as i know for routine and preventive healthcare. >> the hope is that insurance exchanges will eventually draw in more physicians. >> you will see more primary care physicians and pas and nurse practitioners, physician assistants to doctors that live in these areas can rest assured that they will have the ability to have most of their patients have insurance. >> but the law is projected to increase the demand for physicians by just 2%. so in the meantime, many of those here in the delta still
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sing the blues when it comes to getting care from their neighborhood doctor. that's our show for today. thanks for joining us. have a great weekend. landmark decision. a long sought victory for gay rights in america as the nation's highest court legalized same-sex marriage. >> plus, a tribute in charleston, south carolina from the president.


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