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that shouldn't really be there. >> techknow investigates. >> you could not pay me to fake data. . this is al jazeera america live. this is al jazeera live from new york. these are today's top stories. serbia's prime minister attacked at today's ceremony marking an anniversary of the massacre of thousands of muslims. >> an explosion outside the italian consulate in egypt packing winds of more than 100 miles per hour. it's one of the most powerful typhoons to hit eastern china in
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decades. thousands turn out to hear donald trump as he takes his message about immigration to arizona, the epi center of the device i have national battle over reform. greece and anger on this 20th anniversary of the genocide. thousands of mourners, world dignitaries and religious leaders gather for the largest single a2r0sty in europe since world war ii. more than 7,000 were slaughtered on july 11th, 1995. outrage erupted is he air moan i can't when the serbian prime minister arrived. the crowd began screaming and hurling rocks and bottles. the prime minister security team surrounded him and quickly rushed him away.
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this 45d as 136 newly identified bodies from the massacre arrived at the graveyard. the victims were laid to rest alongside the thousands of others of the massacre. >> prayers fell on this cemetery for the victims laid to rest 20 years after they were killed. in many cases, partial remains were found. >> burying her brother who was 33, she says it's a painful day for her. >> i feel better. i wish they would never have happened or that i would have the entire body. i only have three bones. at least now i can come and visit my brother. bill clinton in power at the time of the killings:
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>>. >> i am begging you not to let this monument to innocent boys become only a memory of a tragedy. >> the current prime minister there was a gesture of reconciliation when he met a muslim woman who lost several male relatives in the massacre: he was turned on by a small section of the crowd. they were ang rye he has denied a genocide took place. >> this regards the highest judicial decisions of two international courts. it is an insult to the victims. >> beyond the anger, of course, there is newed grief as this cemetery fills up. the 20th anniversary has brought with it visits and speeches from leaders from around the world, but year in and year out, what
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the events here really mean for the families of the victims is a chance to remember their loved ones. still, there are an estimated 1200 victims who's remains have still not been identified. they are likely to be digging fresh graves here for years to come. nadine barber al jazeera, potichari. >> the massacre was a turning point in boss kneeian and u.s. relations. the effect the killings had on the white house. the former boss knee bosnian ambassador. all coming up at 7:30 eastern, 4:30 pacific. some limit talks entering their 15 the day in vienna. both sides say they have made progress. they are struggle to go break a deadlock. james bays has the latest from ve ena. they are back now in vienna as
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these talks continue but it's clear there are some last difficult areas that they have now been working on, on days sticking points which are stopping an agreement. the u.s. secretary of state, john kerry, has said he is prepared to walk away but he is certainly not doing that for now. the talks here continue and secretary of state kerry has been on the phone to his russian counterpart, sergey lavrov. it has been indicated he might have been coming on saturday but it appears his trip has now been delayed. watching mr. lavrov's movements, i think, are important because the russian foreign minister has said all along that he wants to be in ve ena for a final deal. so, the moment he gets on plane from russia suggests to me that perhaps we are getting close. >> coming up in our next hour a deeper look at the nuclear non-proliferation treaty including iran's involvement with it. isil is claiming responsibility
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for today's bombing outside the italian consulate in egypt. isil has previously claimed to be behind attacks in iraq syria, france kuwait tunisia and libya. today's bombing comes in spite of steady military pressure on the group in sanai. isil claims it detonated a parked car bomb with more than 900 pounds of explosives and they urge urged muslims to avoid high target areas. >> the roar of the explosion rip he would across cairo. the blast happened right outside the italian consulate damaging the building. within minutes, people had gathered at the scene. >> i live in the neighborhood and was sleeping. at 6:30 a.m. we heard a big explosion. we woke up in shock. all of the windows had been broken in the house. parts of the building fell on top of people and injured them. we went outside and the air was full of dust. we stayed for 10 minutes until
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we were able to see the ditch. the explosion also ruptured underground pipes, flooding the area. it's still unclear who is behind the attack which witnesses say was caused by a car bomb. the tactic is becoming familiar. last monday egypt's prosecutor general was assassinated, also in a car bomb also in cairo. the president then pushed through tougher security laws in the face, of what he calls terrorism. the military's already engaged in a heavy campaign against fighters based in the sanai pennsylvania. one in particular calls itself province of sinai and has sworn e allegiance to the isil. it has been carrieding on attacks, killing soldiers and police. the battles have killed approximately 700 people this year alone. fighters, soldiers and civilians. there is increasing concern the groups are widening their reach beyond the sanai.
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saturday morning's bombing in cairo as to these fears. gerald tan, al jazeera. >> here at home fbi director james komey says isil is using encryption technology as it recruits new members. he asked the senate judicial area committee for more spying power over everyone's personal communications. generalmy mcintire has more. >> the fwi says one of the ways isil is winning the information war from thousands of miles away is not just through web pages that sympathizers have to seek out but through highly encrypted messages sent directly to mobile devices of potential recruits. >> it buzzes in their pocket. there is a device almost a devil on their shoulder all day long saying kill kill kill kill. we will see them give them directions a mobile messaging app that is encrypted and tell them: contact me here and they
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disappear. >> in testimony before two senate committees, comey and a top official outlined the danger of growing dark the increasing use of commercially available encryption to thwart legal searches and authorize wire types. >> we are creating safe zones where criminals can avoid detection. >> going dark comes in two basic forms: data in motion realtime communication via phone calls, e-mails and instant message apps and data at rest locked in devices, mobile phones hard drives drives. >> these encrypted devices are becoming the e equipmented of closets and safes that can never be opened even when a judge has expressly authorized a searched for evidence inside them. >> if we intercept data in motion between two encrypted devices or encrypted mobile
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messaging a. p, we can't break it. sometimes people think the f.b.i. may have some way to break that encription. we do not which is why this is such an important issue. >> privates groups incest encryption is an important tool for individuals to protect their personal private data and they say the government should never have a master key. >> if there is a legal requirement from a law enforcement agency to access any of the individual users' data, it's not something that is granted by definition. it goes through a very thorough legal process we review before we could grant access. >> but the obama administration seeks it's not seeking a back door into encryption software. that's a highly controversial idea adamantly independentopposed by many in the tech community who say undermining encription would make signer security worse and prove a bon answersa for cyber criminals and hackers. >> what we are seeking is to be
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able to work with the industry such that the companies, themselves, will retain an ability to be able to access the information and to provide that information to us with lawful court orders. >> mike lions is a retired army marriage and a al jazeera security contributor and he joins us. so first, break down this type of encryption that the f.b.i. director is talking about here. >> he is talking about the normal encryption that takes place that service providers use, google apple, yahoo, and the like for two individuals within the united states to communicate with each other and what basically it is, it's this code that allows two people to talk on the internet, either through e-mail or texting that no one else can hear wiretap or get in on that conversation. he is talking about having access to that level of basic communication. >> why doesn't he already have access to that basic level of communication? >> well, does. a pre-snowden era, he did but
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when he had ward snowden released that and snowden released the fact that electronic companies were working with the f.b.i. to do this it took place. these technology companies have changed encryption so the f.b.i. no longer has that key. they do not have that front door access to that information. it's all about timing. they can't get to it in a time frame that's fast enough from their perspective in order to intercept something that could possibly be happening wrong. >> all right. so the fact that the f.b.i. head has come out and really expressed concern about isil's encryption strength and issim can certainly hear that the f.b.i. has this concern, you know, with comey saying we can't crack everything do you think this is actually empowering isil's message to getting through to more recruits? >> what it's doing is its forcing them to change their increptionniques, making it harder for us to figure out when they happen.
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isris goes through social media and try to figure out individuals that have possibly been radicalized through twitter and redit, and they reach out directly to them. the f.b.i. wants to capture that communication from the american city here over to someone overseas someplace that's communicating with isis. that's the issue. right now, the f.b.i. director says he can't see that level of communication. >> we know social media is used to review new members, even for initially instating lone wolfe attacks here on u.s. soil. what can the military really do to step up its game to compete and defeat isil? >> this gets back to going offense whiff it comes to a cyber war. so, for example, doing denial of service attacks. if the f.b.i. can't get the communication between two home >> they will fiber optics on the end points. if they figure out where an individual s they are going to go after them. they may not be and go after them with a missile but cyberly
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and try to take down their service and take down that information. they take away that capability. this is dminths of warfare i think we will see stepped up in the next few years, as isis gets increased capability and as the f.b.i. plays, basically catch-up. >> if the f.b.i. doesn't get what it needs, what the director is saying that he needs in terms of permissions from the senate judiciary committee, what is the concern? >> we are going to have events that will take place in the united states if we could have found out if we were doing what we were doing before edward snowden but we won't have access to that information right now. you will 30etentially have an attack. there will be a lot of finger pointing when they say why didn't we know and the f.b.i. fwe director said you didn't help me. i tried to get that passed to have it. yes have it. >> major mike lions, thank you so much. the cease-fire in yemen has been broken just hours after it began. police say -- people say, rather, they witnessed saudi-led
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airstrikes as well as heavy shelling between warring faxes in several cities. the u.n. brokered truce was meant to allowed a week for aid to be distributed. the coalition said they received no request from the yemeni government to stop military operations. marathon crisis talks in belgium to keep greece from going bankruptcy have ended for the day and will resume sunday. in brussels with the latest, thank you for joining us. any pretty goods made at those talks today? >> reporter: well, from what we gather and what we draw our information from primarily, leaks strategically made by some of those who have been involved in negotiations behind closed door is that some progress may have been made although it doesn't say a tremendous amount. but we do know also tempers
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have been fray,000 as well and deep seated discs on how best to deal with greece's debt problem have been once again exposed. the likes of france and italy, fundamentally believe more money should be given to greece to keep the country afloat to avoid the nation from slipping into bankruptcy. then you've got, of course got the economic power horse of europe german and other states in eastern europe and the baltic states who are saying no. debts need to be paid first before any new cash can be handed over to greece for it to do about whatever it likes. but for the time being, it's very difficult to gauge exactly where these negotiations are going. there is also some common ground here among some euro group nations who feel united in their sense of suspicion and perhaps distrust about the latest greek proposal. there have also been some suggestions from some euro greek countries on how greece can go a little bit further than what it has conductor offered.
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germany, no surprises there, have suggested that perhaps greece needs to sell off some of its assets possibly real estate in order to release $55 bi yon dollars worth of funds to pay off some of its creditors. there have been some jokes here that perhaps we will soon see the parthenon up for sale. there has been a defendant suggestion from the germans that maybe a five-year temporary grexit is what is needed to allow the greeks to leave the euro on a temporary basis, remain within the eu and allow the athens to restructure some of its debts. these are the things that are being up for negotiations throughout the course of the day. these talks will continue well into sunday. >> all right, nieb barker live from brussels. that you were. donald trump draws a huge crowd in the state considered the epicenter over the did he have vooifs battle over graimings reform. >> i love the mexican people.
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>> the presidential candidate takes center stage in arizona next. plus a beach gory hospitalized and a popular area evacuated after reports of an explosion along the road island coast. >> we have already scene one landfall with a particular typhoon. we are going to be seeing a second landfall in parts of the corps ian peninsula as well as heat is going to be a new problem across the central part of the united states. more on that when we return after this.
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snfrming a bomb squad severaling a rhode island beach after reported explosion. part of the beach has been evacuated. beach goers heard a boom shortly after 11:00 a.m. one witness described it like a grenade sound. another witness reported the explosion coming from under the sand. it knocked a 50-year-old woman into a rockwall. she was conscious and alert when she was taken to a hospital. >> typhoon chanhom slams into
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china's east coach. more than a million people have been evacuated as the storm packed up to 100-mile-an-hour winds. the storm's heavy rains devastated farmlands and hundreds of flights have been cancelled. officials say it is 1 of the strongest typhoons in decades to make landfall near shanghai. let's bring in ken korovo now with more on this storm. >> this was actually a stronger storm earlier before it had made landfall. actually, as it made its way toward the okinawa area. you can see the september of the storm right here. this, about 48 hours ago, was equivalent to a category 4 hurricane. it made its way to the south of okinawa. we have 32 mlt basis. everything was there. they do well during tropical situations like this. as you can see made landfall right here just to the south of shanghai, but the big problem here was the circulation of the storm. what that did was it sent a lot of water into these refer inlets
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and deltas causing a lot of flooding especially as you go up the y. p pntze river there. things have gotten better for shanghai. we are seeing it make its way toward the yellow sea. we will the storm start to decrease in intensity and make its way toward south and north korea. we expect to see quite a bit of rain over the next day or so. how about 5 to 6 inches across that region. we expect to see flooding as we go through the next couple of days. here across the united states we have good news for the northwest. you have cooled down after an ongoing heat wave. seattle 71 degrees there. but we are now shifting the heat to another location. here across the plains states. what's going to happen is those trooubz going to be skyrocketing over the next day or so type of business mark, 90 degrees toward rapid city at 89. tomorrow, those temperatures go up. 94 degrees and we have the heat
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advisories in effect through parts of the dac owed as all the way toward oklahoma. >> means we expect from sunday morning until monday afternoon, heed indexes 105 to 110. >> means stay out of the direct sunshine during the middle of the day, drink a lot of water. do not keep your dogs in cars. keep most of the activity to the morningdz or evenings. as we go toward sunday erica, we expect to see a lot of active weather peer the great lakes. back to you? >> kevin thank you. krap presidential candidate donald trump is speaking in arizona tonight, the epicenter of the national immigration debate. >> the word is getting out that we have to stop illegal immigration. we have to. we have to. >> the new york businessman stuck to his platform of border control. he said incompetent politicians have allowed the immigration crisis to get out of control. he also said he loves mexican
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people and that many legal mexican immigrants work for him. let's bring in michael shore now and, an al jazeera political correspondent joining us via skype from los angeles. so, michael, for phoenix, trump spoke to another large crowd. is this a legit mat groundwell or is he speaking to people who agree with him in states where i amgration is really a polarizing issue? >> it's true. they go to places where it's friendly fire familiar territory and the like. so yeah, he is going to be speaking to people who agree with him. he is striking a cord and he is striking a cord with tea partiers and libertarians the minutemen, the we know that started the tea party began in southern california and arizona. those are people who are vehemently for tougher border
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control. that's had a they do early on to get a ground, as well. >> he is tied in some polls. bush as well as other republican candidates have not taken such a hard line on immigration. how far how divided is the party when it comes to this issue? >> there are two issues. trump is ahead or he is tied with bush depending upon which national poll you look at. of course, there are so many candidates there that once some of the other candidates start come in, he will often not feed off of them. it's still tough sledding. he's got to be happy with that. when you look at the other part of that question which is how divided is the party, that's where they run into real problems because erica, they are about 50/50 by a manmoth poll. immigration within the republican party about 50% of republicans say we have got to do something about this. we need reform and about
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two-thirds of those people say there should be a pathways to citizenship. that's a tough one for the republicans right now. >> do you think the gop can win without latino support? >> it's hard you know. they got 27% of it in 2012 t seemed like an obvious place. i think those ahead of the rnc the iran national committee, probably thought the sale thing. they have done anything but court the latin 0 vote. they think they can win without a strong showing of latino voters. most political analysts -- i will throw myself in that group -- don't think they can do it without inviting them into their tent. they haven't done a good job with that. also rubio and cruise thought perhaps, you know, having a top-tier hispanic candidate, latin candidate would help them. they are cuban americans and that's a little different than the hispanic spence for most hiss voters in this country. >> it will be interesting. michaelshore, al jazeera america, political correspond he want from los angeles.
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thank you so. >> thanks. on this week's third rail, imran guardan ask does no me knowto to yes means yes make it safer for women from being assaulted? >> the shift from no means no to yes means yes, is that going to make it safer for women? >> i cannot for the life of me imagine how this is going to work in real life. i don't want to ever see a woman sexually assaulted on campus or anywhere else. it's horrible. >> comes from the right place but ludicrous? >> i don't know how it can be done. whoever said that on the tape they are right. it's always going to be a he said, she said. you know what? both sides mute actually believe telling the truth. >> i spoke with my high school interns, high school interns about this. they were pretty much on the side of its okay. was a little bit surprising to me one said there should be
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consent at every level. i am glad it's there. >> watch the entire episode of third rail tomorrow night at 6 eastern, 3 pacific. 20 years ago when thousands of bosnian men and boys were massacred. fleischer up next the greece and anger as the anniversary is marked. we take a look at how the killings changed the course of the u.s. relationship with bosnia. stay with us.
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welcome back to al jazeera america. is sub sill claiming responsibility for a deadly car bomb in egypt. at least one person was killed action 10 injured. the bomb we want off in cairo outside the italian consolat. republican presidential candidate donald trump took his tough talk too border security arizona. the epi center of the national
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immigration debate. trump told a large crowd that actions are needed on illegal immigration. small groups of frostors and hecklers tried to disrupt his speech. a day of sorrow and anger in bosnia twbt years ago today, the serb army killed more than 7,000 bosnian muslims inside a u.n.-protected safe area. thousands gathered at the victims' sgriefd to remember the massacre. the serbian prime minister was forced to leave when members of the crowd began throwing rocks and bottles at him. the massacre was the worst mass killing in europe since the holocaust. it served as a turning point for u.s. policy on the war in the balkans. paul beban explains. >> reporter: by the summer of 1995, the bloody conflict that followed the break-up of yugoslavia had been grinding on for nearly four years.
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thousands had been killed in the siege of seriavo alone. thousands more were dying as the fighting raged in the heart of europe. since the outbreak of war in 1991, the united states had remained largely on the sidelines, letting european nations take the lead both dprom atticcally and militarily as the country shattered along narm,th nick and relunchigious lines presidenting serbs against bosnia muslims and croatian catholics. >> the united states tried very hard not to be involved in the war in bosnia. the europeans had said 1992 is the year of europe. we are going to handle this problem. >> the clinton administration would largely continue a policy of standing back from the bosnian war. but in early july 1995, serb
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forces seized sverbenitza, a so-called shaven defended by a small united nations peacekeeping force. as serb soldiers over ran the tout the out numbered troops could do little more than watch as the serbs separated the men and boys from the women and children and began slaughtering them. the killing continued for days and claimed some 8,000 lives. >> it was sreberniza that was the real turning point. when it emerged that the 8,000 men and boys who had been initially reported missing had been murdered that really shocked people in washington as it did around the world. i remember sitting in the situation room when we saw the photographs of young men and the income day you see the mass graves right there in the same place. we all said we have to act.
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>> after the errors the strategy of sitting on the sidelines was no longer viable. either morally or politically. >> secretary general has now asked that authority be given to our commanders there on the ground to take appropriate action. i very much well, that request. i have hoped that that would be the case for some time. >> president clinton and his add advisories began to pursuante increased involvement. >> it made very clear that negotiations along were never going to work here and until we married with that sdmreem, it would could not. >> in late august, a serb attacked killed people in an open air market in saraevyo. planes flying under nato authority launched a sustained attack of serb military targets, nato's most extensive military action since the alliance was created after world war ii.
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the airstrikes ended the siege of sarejvo. >> this is an important moment in the painful history of bosnia. for today, parties have agreed to put down arms and roll up their sleeves and work for peace we need to be clear-eyed about this for it matters what the parties do, not simply what they say. >> by the end of november in dayton, ohio, the warring party sandy an agreement ending the con frequent that had claimed some 100,000 lives. today, 20 years later, the remains of the victims are city being found in the mass graves. paul beban al jazeera, new york. >> on this 20th anniversary. kill killings, i am joined by mohammed shakerby, the former bosnian bosnian ambassador to the u.n. and the bureau chief for al jazeera balkans joining us from washington, d.c. tonight. thank you for joining us.
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bam ambassador, i will start with you. first, let's go back in time. and you were bosnia's ambassador at the time of the massacre. walk me through those days weeks, leading up to that moment. what was it all like for you? >> i was foreign minister at the time. my predecessor had just been assassinated. i would been called to sarajevo to take that roll on. i had stopped in paris for a meeting of the u.n. peacekeeping members, forces, and at that time, i already heard from the dutch defense minister that in fact an assault was being planned. this was very early june 40 days before it fell. what i tried to do was whatever i could to urge the nato allies the united states and others to act to stop this and floorl provide humanitarian aid for a situation that was becoming more dire by the moment.
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applause recall that was in not just a u.n. safe area but a nato protected zone. in other words, what the dutch were expecting as well as the people of srebenica, if an attack came the nato planes would come to provide the necessary assistance to repel malosovich. what we did not know at that time, though there was already an agreement made between london, washington and paris not to provide any more nato air cover over bosnia. this arrangement was first reached by two french generals and then it was adopted by these three capitols and ultimately ratified by the commit in washington. the dutch did not know this deal existed, and we did not know. so boat the dutch were left in effect without the air support they needed and the people of
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srebrenica srebrenica were left naked. >> you were trying to raise a red flag. how frustrating was it? did you feel no one was listening to you? >> people were listening. the question was, was there any will to act? what i didn't realize, though there was something less than a will to act, that, in fact they had put nato back in its holster. that was the only thing that was saving places like srebenivca man other towns. it was clear, also that maladovich had blend to no nato would not confront him. i used to use yellow light, green light what was in effect of malodovich when he was trying to enter srebenica. we are talking about acquiesce he knew and complicity. there has never been an acknowledgement or an apology
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until the last few days when we have received information through dutch television through the guardian and through u.s. documents and, an acknowledgement from former clinton administration officials that there was this secret agreement that nato air power would be left, if you would, in its holster. >> we would talk about that a little more as well as the accountability factor you are talking about. let me bring in yve t.s.a. you were a naus ankle on bosnian television at the time. give us your perspective of what was happening back then. >> actually, in that time of the genocide i was in the united nations. i came in as a correspondant and i was covering that tragedy from the united nations. my perspective was, of course i was in shock when i saw what
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happened and as anybody else, you know, i tried to find out what happened what was behind everything. what they were talking about. that was my intent as a human b as a journalist. i remember very well in the united nations, the united states ambassador at the u.n. major albright when she actually showed to us the journalists, the satellite images of some field with some people that field. the day after that image is new satellite image, no people there you see something that happened in the ground. obviously killed and put in the ground a mass grave. >> was a real shocker for all of us and for the global community,
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but i know that something was behind everything because the scene what the ambassador is talking about. >> let's focus on the role of the united nations back then in the years since. plane have blamed the u.n. for not doing enough. kristin saloomey has more. >> reporter: the fall of srebenica is considered a black mark on the u.n. u.n. peacekeepers did little to defend the area when it was overrun by the bosnian serb army. they were 40ed, out gunned and u.n. officials now admit too reluctant to call in the help of nato airstrikes. the security council has been skrooitdz for not providing enough troops or a clear mandate for the mission as to when the use of force was acceptable. in the absence of that the commanders fell back on the
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u.n.'s philosophy of new trality. but by not stopping the agressors, they have failed to prevent what the international court of justice has labeled a yen side. the tragic outcome highlights what can be a problem here ne united neighborhoods the tendency to let political considerations get in the way of protecting civilians. >> so ambassador to you, the u.n. obviously coming under heavy criticism for not doing enough to present the killings. what more could have been done and should have been done and the timing that it should have been done? >> the u.n. has responsibility, but in many ways, it's become the convenient camouflage for others to behind its responsibility. the u.n. doesn't have airplanes. it has very limited military capacity. what it does had ave is theability to take diplomatic force.
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it did authorize nato to support the dutch peacekeepers an protect the safe areas. that's where the problem is. that's where the disconnect is. so, i actually put more responsibility on the three capitols that i have mentioned again, paris, london and washington. the way the u.n. was bypassed in this key point because most u.n. members and security council members did not know the secret agreement existed and en nato was betrayed. nato is a primary institution of our defense, that is our american and european defense and in this case a nato ally was left in the dark and left holding the back which is the dutch. the dutch may not have at very honorably p, but if in fact they did expect someone twrt from the sky to come and aid them when they were out gunned by malodovich, i don't know what a soldier would do except kcower.
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>> to you, someone outside, outside of the u.n. looking from a journalist spectertive, did you get a sense something was just not right? >> yeah. absolutely. i said it already, and, you know it was a very strange situation. you have a safe zone proclaimed by a u.n. and you have some u.n. peacekeeping forces over there. they didn't do anything to protect the civilians and people in the area. you know 8,000 men and boys tried to find protection in some kind of u.n. compound close to srebencia and the u.n. peacekeepers turned them to the serbian forces who killed them in the next few days, it's blowing your mind. you can just literally, you
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cannot believe what happened, you know, and my experience with u.n. i like to say that it is a very uneffective global organization. i saw that in a few wars that i covered as a journalist. i never saw anything, you know, helpful to people on the ground. of course they are doing some of that they are doing great job. but i think too much bureaucracy, too many, you know politicians inside. they cannot make any effective decision and trying to, you know, figure out how to please, you know countries, members of the u.n., you know especially five permanent members, that is big minus for u.n. >> ambassador despite the thousands killedthe united nations has yet to declare the massacre
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quote, unquote genocide. hour disturbing is it for you? >> those people who reject the word genocide are the ones that are most important to start the process of reconciliation, and remember, it's truth and reconciliation. truth is the first word. what i think is now being played is not only thought by some people in serbia and belgrade but also in moscow. putin, i thinktion, is trying to concentrate whole new spheres of influence and trying to cut europe once again with an axe, and that axe is based upon religious identity. i would like to emphasize that when we talk about bosnia and herzogonevia and the people who defended the countries, not just the muslims and croats. many bosnian serbs were there with us. they with stood the appeals of the national allism and bigotry.
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many were murdered because they would not join the forces of people like malosovich and malodovich. it was the same under hitler. >> when he came to power, he looked to neutralize murder the opposition. so there are many bosnian serbs who deserve credit. there are many serbians themselves who can have been responsible for exposeing those murders. the video you showed of the so-called scorpions executing men, that was, in fact liberated to all of us so we could see the pictures by natasha kondich, a human rights activist and a real hero. now, don't want to see a return to a world that's defined by ethnicity where shoefnism is the ruling politics not good stewartship. >> you saw what happened today. we serbia's prime minister being
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pelted with rocks because he showed up at the ceremony yet you have president bill clinton who is pretty much saying that it was courageous for him to show up. what do you think? >> president bill clinton is a friend. he has been very kind and even flattering to me in his book. but i think it was time for president clinton first of all, whatever else he does is to offer his apolye in srebrenica as he did in rwanda. it's employ recognizing the truth of all involved, including the sdmruns and its own families. don't hide behind the u.n. don't beat any rate nato a dutch ally human rights. don't betray truth. most xwojt here in rwanda he made the point this was not about age old ethnic hat tridz, how that term is used as a way to prom oat, in effect, exploited by the haters. we have haters everywhere. so i would have hoped that president bill clinton would
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have started a new page offering his apology. what happens is with someone like prime minister butich of serbia, he was the minister of information when it occurred when malosovich was in power. he he was one of those people who said for every serb killed we need to kill 100 or 1,000 muslims. that's someone who carries grave responsibilities. other leaders have come to srebencia to acknowledge genocide they are more than welcome. in fact i personally would embrace them. when we talk with butich. it's unfortunate someone takes the focus of the suffering. commemoration event. he should have never been attacked in this way. now, he's calling it an assassination attempt. in other words, he is trying to turn the deck. he first has to acknowledge his own mistakes and apologize for
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what happened and say the word "genocide" which he still refuses to. this is not an attack upon serbs. this is not an attack upon serbia. it is a focus on someone very specifically who has had a very long role in first of all trying to fire up ethnic hat tridz and failing to acknowledge his own mistakes. >> ambassador, last question for you. with a do you want americans and the world really to take away on this twipt20th anniversary of the massacre? >> it is there as a reminder of many worse things that happened in bosnia. it didn't happen under the u.s. watch directly. 30,000. no case mostly women and children as well as men were murdered. bosnia has been constructed in dayton and in paris by the de deeds, by those boundaries defined by genocide. we need to move away from that construct. dayton, which i signed was a
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very bitter pill to swallow. it was necessary to deliver an end to the conflict. right now, we need to move beyond the delineations in politics and in territory that is defined by ethnicity and in this case genocide. the united states has the leadership to do that. i know putin will resist it, but we should not allow puttip to carve up crain. we should not allow isis to carve up syria and iraq and not allow malosovich's successors to carve up the region inton a whole new european berlin wall. >> all right. we will leave it there. thank you both for joining us. al jazeera balkan's bureau chief for nus washington, d.c. and mohammed shokerby former ambassador to the sfwlun. thank you for joining us. it's been a defendant year since a malaysian airliner was shot down over ukraine.
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>> we want to know who's fault is it? family members of the victims are still looking for answers to what happened.
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♪ >> it was an emotional day for the families of the victims of malaysian airlines flight mh 17. a rememberance ceremony was held and the boeing 777 was shot down in eat earn ukraine last year
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killing all 298 people on board. today, the families prettied continued frustrations over how the tragedy has been handled. here is the story. >> a year on and the emotions are still raw. 43 malaysians were on board flight mh 17 when it went down in eastern ukraine last year. at a memorial in quala lumpur the prime minister tried to comfort the families of victims. >> closew for this incident is absolutely vital so that all the next of kin can continue with their lives. therefore, the ultimate action of finding who were responsible and bringing them to justus must be carried out. >> the plane was flying from amsterdam to kuala lum pavr pur
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on july 17th when it went down and killed all 298 passengers and crew. many accused russian-backed fighters of firing a missile at the aircraft, a claim rejected by mosscowmoscow. even now, friends and families of victims are looking for answers. roger nasir lost a close friend who worked as the head steward. he said mohammed abu bakr was like an older brother. he still can't accept his death. >> there is no justice. what we want to know whose fault is it? and we want this -- i mean for him to. >> the result of a dutch-led investigation are due in october. many countries are calling for a u.n. tribunal to prosecute those responsible. russia has dismissed the proposal. justice in terms of people going
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to jail for this or facing some kind of a legal sentence, i don't think so. i don't think so. there is so much really fraught politics involved in this. >> in malaysia, as families try to come to terms with their loss there is little to console them. despite a twreer-long investigation, the families of victims still don't know how or why their relatives died. all they can do is wait and hope for justice. karish al jazeera, kuala lumpur. >> there was a surprise for the thousands who showed up at the large science fiction convention in the world. a live performance of star wars song plus a real life hero shows up. the next story next.
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>> star wars fans had a big treat this weekend. harrison ford also known as the iconic hans soo made the first appear since since he had a crash and he is excited to once again play hans soo in the new star wars movie. >> i was proud and grateful to once again be involved. i will tell you that it felt great. it [applause.] >> fans got to see several scenes from the force awakens which comes out this december. they even heard a live performance of star wars songs from the san diego symphony orchestra. against the hans soos and spidermen around comicon. congressman john lewis was among those in attendance dressed just like he did when he marched on selma 50 years ago. he was there to promote march,
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his graphic novel about the site for civil rights. i am erica pitzy. the news continues next with del walters. >> this is al jazeera america. i am in new york with a look at tonight's top stories: this is al jazeera america, i'm del walters, with a look at tonight's top stories. serb ya's prime minister attacked at a ceremony marking 20 years since the murders in srebrenica and whether to accept or relevant greek's austerity fears and tears as donald trump takes his message to the say. >> and iranian nuclear talks - why some say the treaty itself is


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