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president obama says the or tentative to a nuclear deal with iran is war. is washington deceiving the pop lake. i am imran garda and thi this is this is "third rail." rice up and stop isis. >> the threat of the islamic state requires all of the strength, unity and confidence that only american leadership can provide. >> arab countries need to stand united in saying death to isis. >> egypt, saudi arabia, jordan, this is their war. they should be fighting it, not us. >> these are regional batters, regional actors, regional bad guys. >> when will the moderates wake up? or will they ever wake up? >> there is no way in hell you can destroy isil without a substantial american component. >> it starts off as local but they are building an interim nation network. >> we need i want knackal hem. we have to remember iraq became in such a way because of the occupation. >> we are where we are because
we armed the syrian rebels. we have been fight ago long side al-qaeda. >> we created it, it's ours and now we are trying to deal with the an consequences. >> tonight we have a professor of international relations at the london school of economics and political science he's the author of ice as a short history. and a former strategic communications adviser with the syrian coalition. thanks for joining us, gentlemen. why hasn't the muslim world defeated isil? >> we have to look at what exactly is broadly defined. let's look at what certain muslim country have his done. no doubt we have to also look at the question as who does isil target? now, according to the united nations data from in a report from last year, the majority of those killed by isis are muslims, bombs in mosques, sunni muslims, shia muslims are being targeted by isil. >> totally. so why haven't they dunmore if they are the tagger nets.
>> the reality is muslims are doing more than they realize. islamic institutions in the region you can in egypt, we have grand sunni muslim in saudi arabia fighting against isis, this is a recent but important turn of events -- [speaking at the same time] >> against people like bin laden in the past which only served as a greater recruitment tool to these fighters because they are saying you see these guys are sell outs they are with the west, dictators, we are the correct interpretation of islam. >> if does help. if you want to stem the fighters from central asia and the arab world in to syria and iraq you need the support of the local muslim leaders. you look at the amount of security actions taken by plus tim countries against homegrown isis recruit think cells, so the reality, is is that if you want to stop the foreign fighters you have to look at the lodge us
ticks, the financial networks, it's not just the ideology, and finally in the past five, six months, we are seeing countries in the middle east waking up to this dire threat. >> do you know the percentage of air strikes that have been committed against isil by the united states? do you know the percentage of those air strikes done by the united states? >> overwhelmingly by the united states air force. >> 116 air strikes by saudi arabia. the uae, bahrain, jordan and canada. that's in syria. >> that's. [speaking at the same time] >> out of 2,300. the vast majority. 79% by the united states. you have record arm sales to the middle east, to these gulf countries which are rich countries, among the richest in the world. they have american weapons and european weapons. they have gotten limited money. they claim they want to fight isil. so why don't they? why are they still asking the american to his do their work for them? >> certainly we are not seeing an arab expeditionary force. a muslim force going in to syria. >> okay. >> to fight isis but they are
going after the finance ears and the logistical support and they are supporting the local sunni muslims in syria in the lead solution. >> i want to talk about that in a moment. but first, are you convinced that the muslim world or these countries particularly in the region are doing enough? >> i am not only -- of course i am not convinced . my colleague here misses the big big picture. ice wois in the have done as well as it has in the last knew years without the gio extra steam i can struggle taking place, it's part and parcel of the saudi led, saudi being the sunni dominated state, this is the social. [ inaudible ] that has allowed isis to grow as big as it has,
isis is a result, a product of the spreading fires of the civil wars taking place in syria. taking place in iraq. the sunni-shia divide that is basically opposing the veins of the muslim politics. not only middle eastern states have not done enough. in fact they have provided the sus that nanc sustenance and nourishment. >> how? >> 202012 and 2014, those isis, -- there was no isis. al-nusra front. because money flood ed in to syria. the question was not to support the militant jihadist the question was to bring the temperature on assad's head. [speaking at the same time] >> most of the money, most of the money, basically went to militants, like al-nusra. .1. ..1, paints two, most of the fighters come to syria from turkey .
the question is not why turkey has joined the fight now. why has it taken turkey more than a year to i now submit to you that turkish strategic priority is no to take on isis because of the kurds. >> you are the guy, you were walling for, quote, ammo, am oh, ammo to go to the free syrian arm. >> i absolutely. >> a lot that ammo went to groups like al-nusra front, went to the islam i go state. isil. the weapons and money went to these. [speaking at the same time] >> to the team lobbing of heads. >> let's look at actual facts in 2005 where were the fighters come in from damascus to syria and iraq well before the 2011 syrian revolution. the counter intuitively in the middle east today. secular autocratic, supposedly secular on the contract i can governments are not the inoculation against the ideology
of groups luol kid and iraq luol qauda and iraq. the data is very clear here, -- what eventually became isis was able to grow in the deserts of eastern syria from thousand five to 2010 underneath the watch of the supposed secular syrian military intelligent. [speaking at the same time] >> that's this thousand they grew. [speaking at the same time] >> isis, before isis there was al qaeda in iraq. al qaeda and iraq. and i have written several books on the topic. al qaeda and iraq was defeated in 2010, 2011. when the americans letter iraq in 2011, al qaeda and iraq, inning and his successors were bankrupt. was besieged. was bleeding. it did not number more than 200, 300 fighters. the question for us here, why the so-called -- >> they survived because the syrians -- the syrian regime
allowed them to establish a redone apt network in syria. >> why isis was grown from 200 fighters in to basically 35,000 fighters, to come back, the sunni-shia divide. this is the social nourishment. these are not my words, consensus in the field. what does mean the sunni-shia divide. the geostrategic struggle. it means sunni dominated saudi arabia. and shia dominated iran. even though it's strategic, it's power oriented, but it's perceived as sectarian. it has allowed isis to, what? to imbed itself. upsetter itself with the local sunni community. >> is their popular support for isil -- [speaking at the same time] >> absolutely not. >> people are forget who question feeted al kicompeted te sunnis. >> no one can tell you the support within the sunni community to ice. i have worked for years, the numbers go and these are
basically -- not just rhetoric here, the numbers goes most sunnis, most sunnis implicitly, implicitly the local commune is poor sunni communities view isis as the enemy of their enemy. that is the minority-based government. truly, correctly. - >> against shia immaterial pearl yearism. >> in a way isis being the manipulate i have it has inserted itself -- >> syria is the number one victim. [speaking at the same time] >> it has exploited, m manipulad the grievances, the pain, the suffering. sunnis by saying we are your vanguard. we are your soul supporter and defender against the minority-led regimes. even though most sunnis, i would say, most sunnis don't subscribed to isis ideology, but the reason why isis has done as well as it has, it has sold its theinarrative.
it's identity-based narrative. it's sectarian based isis. >> so an american watching this would think my god why on earth would i want to get involved in a seek tear vinnie civil war in the middle east. we left iraq, this is none of our business anymore. these guys need to sort out their own business, it sounds overwhelmingly sectarian. none of our business, not our fight. >> that's a very good question. sectarianism is absolutely a factor that helps groups like isis and al qaeda in iraq and the islamic state grow. but it's not the only factor. okay, this is not just an issue of saudi arabia vying for regional democracy with iran. saudi arabia fought an insurgency against isil -- [speaking at the same time] >> let me finish. >> who defeated the prototype for isis in iraq, the islamic state of iraq? it was the sunni tribes tribes . >> absolutely. >> the sunni nationalist
fighters, who defeated isis -- >> you answered your own question . >> so the americans don't need to get involved. >> they need for support those on the frontline to his defeat isis. the way you prevent the u.s. from being sucked in in to the region is by empowering those that want to. [speaking at the same time] talk. >> give me some group names. >> sunni national assists. >> who? >> sunni rebel alliance in northern -- in northern syria. the conquest army. you have another alliance in aleppo. the aleppo countryside called the levant front. [speaking at the same time] >> al-nusra as -- >> they are not part of the -- [speaking at the same time] >> not true. >> they want here is i can't law, al-nusra themselves have killed villagers, executed people in aleppo. they have just been killing from among those 60 u.s. trained fighters. that's al-nusra front. >> i have to correct you. al-nusra is not part of the conquest army. [speaking at the same time]
>> they were just pushed out by the sunni rebels out of a hleb owe. >> have they announced their departure. [speaking at the same time]. >> fair enough. well get to you. >> forget -- >> it's a wide spectrum. [speaking at the same time] >> let's forget al-nusra. they recently put out a message of support and condolence when the taliban leader died syria. >> that's right. >> they want sear. [speaking at the same time] >> these are the guides -- >> but they are not -- >> you can. [speaking at the same time] >> they are not. only ones, they are absolutely problematic in statement like that are absolutely problematic. but there are absolutely options in syria -- >> may i -- >> terms of sunni arabs that the west can support to defeat isis. >> some qualifications. no one said that isis or al-nusra are a product of just the sunni iranian factor. you have bloody dictatorship in iraq and syria.
if it wasn't for the divisive policies of al-maliki. bashar al-assad. isis would not have been augmented and consolidated think .1. .2, let's keep in mind the u.s.-led invasion of iraq in 2003, allowed al qaeda to exists in the first place, what does this tell you, this is not a question of iraq, this is not an american fight . america should not take ownership of this particular fight. only arab and middle eastern civil saturdays can defeat this particular fled . if american inning seeped it would divert the attention, that's what isis wants, they were to curtail the muslims -- to tell them we are the defenders against the americans . [speaking at the same time] >> please help us, give us weapons what do you tell them? >> that's exactly the same call
in 2003, come to iraq, intervene in iraq. [speaking at the same time] >> it's apples and oranges, no one is calling for an invasion. >> the united states can do a great deal by assisting arab and middle eastern civil societies, by assisting. >> that i agree with. >> by rebuilding the broken civil societies. america's power, if america, and america can do a great deal, i have written a boom on barack obama and the middle east two years ago, the united states should use its leadership and resource to his bridge the divide to also get rid of the bloody dictators who are basically poisoning the veins of society. >> on that i want poff agreement i want to take a break but welcome back nay moment. coming up one the architects of the surge in iraq joins us. the united states needs to help where it can. >> you break it, you own it, right. you broke it, so be a part of the solution. >> first do no harm. and as we have learned,. >> for late for that. >> well, more harm can always be done. >> and later on. >> the premise that all women somehow share the same view on abortion is wrong.
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our discussion about why hasn't the 34us limb world tried to defeat isil. author of ashley's war. tom davis a former republican congressman from virginia. and author of. and valerie a former covert cia option ciaops officers. game let's start with you, isil controls larmts parts o large ps syria and using violence as a tool. as do other governments around the world. at what point do we have to except them as not just isil but the is lat i ca islamic state. >> they are trying to upset the international order not trying to become parts of it. they wanted the u.n. seat the taliban did.
the regional ambitions being. these guys are trying to career at an entirely new international order that i think makes it very difficult to come on the argument of when do you recognize these -- >> they want to create a new international order. but the united states invaded, for example, afghanistan, it didn't invade the ta taliban. it was accepted as the governor authority -- >> but not recognized. >> but accepted. it's the player, you have to deal with them. they are in charge of millions of people. is that ever going to happen with isil? >> i don't see it happening any time in the near future. i think if you look at everything that the international community is trying to do, whether effective or not, it is not trying to learn to live with isis, it's trying to learn to how to upset that world view which they are embracing and espousing and he incredibly effectively spreading via social media. >> valerie, we are not talking about recognizing them, but do they have to be accept? and maybe accepting them as i soras asort of governor authoris
a long way to defeating them. >> lets look back in history. a lot of countries have been born out of violence, relinquish arc mine car, the french revolution and ultimately they did become part of the international community . >> reporter: gaigame is right. there is no way they will be accept. a nation state needs to deliver services, while they have done a little bit from my reading they are provide something pockets of stability . is that going to be enough. and who do you call? who d call if you want to have y sort of interim nation? al bag daddy i bagdad is such a shadowy character we don't know if he's alive or dead .
what if they keep this land for another 10 years, at what point do we recognize them -- >> if they want to be content with this piece of land overtime. something could ham. they have to change a little bit and recognize international order and bombed are yous but at this point they show no intent to do that, i don't see them going anywhere but more of the same. until they get defeated and knocked out. they don't acknowledge international law or boundaries of anybody else, they have to change if they vest want to get recognized and there is precedents for that. you have had countries that start off this way and soon are or later find a place they are comfortable with and become countries and recognize recognized they have to have a radical change in the way they view the world to get recognized. >> the one way to look at them are the shock troops of the millions of sunnis feeling disenfranchised in iraq they are completely disconnected from the shia governing body. and you can see that throughout the region.
so he, yes, we have to deal with hem and i would like to see our allies step up in a much more robust manner than what they have been doing thus far. >> which allies in particular. >> saudi arabia, jordan for starters. >> it's hard for imagine their ambitions or speed being satisfied though. they came out of what was -- i talked to administration officials 24 months ago who said this -- the de facto policy right now is containment. right now what we are seeing is the limits of that policy. because in to that containment policy emerged with speed and with real ambition, the isis situation that we have now. >> okay. let's move on. congress is still debating the iran nuclear deal. but is the obama administration using a hard spin to sale the agreement. >> the white house turning up the heat and the rhetoric to get the iran deal passed. >> the choice we face is ultimately between diplomacy or some form of war. >> it sabotages the deal. >> we could be forced in to a war with iran.
>> once a war begins the chances of iran developing a nuclear weapon would only increase. >> valerie we just saw you in that video. with jack black i would like to say. your group is joining the white house and endorsing the deal and telling people, hey, come on, you have to support the deal. but aren't you almost mirroring the opponents' pop began duh here by saying the alternative is war. who says the alternative is war? where is this one up to war that we have all missed? >> there are those that are opposed to the deal who velshi no other better option. the notion that sanctions can be reimposed is fanciful. russia and china have reached the limit of what thick do. the rest of the world is eyeing iran very eager there on get back involved in trade with them them. i see case attacker choice. there is a an he norm plus
disparity those that want the deal have put 10s of thousands of dollars in to this. those that are in favor of it have very low budge tote get out the world -- >> aren't you respond to go propaganda with propaganda. if i was rouhani i would go, what, they are telling the american people if we don't strike a deal with them, there is nuclear war. >> this all about messaging. >> you got a message one side. you have a message on the other side. >> who is messaging? >> not one republican is going to vote for this deal or could they survive if they did vote for the deal. people are looking at their base constituents as they do with everything. from the administration's point of view they have to rally their base f they do that, that will happen. if it splits, if is explain teres too much it's in jeopardy and then a lot of things happen. >> do you believe that those, particularly republicans, those that are against the deal are saying things like the deal itself gives iran a bomb are lying? do you agree with that. >> there is exaggeration in
politics all the timeism think you get exaggeration on both sides to make your point at this point. i think you are seeing a lot of hyperbole when you get in to debates. >> the stakes are so high. >> the passions are so high. >> the problem for the people that vote for this, it may be the right thing today. but anything iran does over the next 10 years with the money that they are going to be getting out of this, they can be held accountable to politically at the table. >> it's a risky vote. but a lot of things are risky in politics when you cast it. i voted for the iraq war little knowing how they would conduct the warfare and how bad it would turn out for, you know, for everybody involved. >> my don't you want the deal? >> look, i just -- it goes back as a republican, this is the guy who negotiated with berg dal and gave away some of the best taliban people up for a deserting and you just don't trust their negotiating instincts. i think at you take a look at that, giving iran this slew of money, when their economy was because low oil prices looks
. >> when you read all the spin, as we call it. >> yeah, yeah. >> and the propaganda. >> did you truly believe the alternative is war? >> you are relying on and hoping for the time line. you hope you are buying more time and you will get to a point where nuclear war and the option is likely. they said it's their version of you are with us or you are against juice absolutely. experts are in agreement, there is a consensus this is the best deal we will get at this point.
it's not perfect, everybody acknowledges that. there is a lot of non-policy experts speaking out against it because of the political aspects. >> again, going to this idea of war or no war something that far more rooted in reality are the fears that a strengthened iran with 100 billion would be allowed to be more powerful not apocalyptic nuclear war that that is at the heart television. >> that may tb, we don't know. military actions only going to set back iran by one to two years and then what? >> you think they want the bomb? >> yes. clearly their actions have demonstrated that. as president reagan showed you don't have to trust your enemy to deal with them. the prime example are the deals
he cut with the soviet union. you have to monitor with enforcement mechanism and robust inspections and the snap back sanctions. >> that's in the deal. what's your problem with it? >> you are giving them money to export terrorism. there is no hint they will change the regime in any way, shape or form. >> there has been a huge change does that encourage you? >> i'm a pessimist. for people who vote for this they will own iran's actions over the past decade. >> we know where bench min netanyahu stands. >> clearly. >> a deal might force his hand to bomb the facilities, triggering the war you are talking about? >> i can't speak to that. he has made his position clear before the united states congress and what we have now
and look at the flip side. if congress turns us down and they are able to override the veto what will happen without a doubt they will say we try today and are going to go toward a nuclear potting. >> the president has boxed in his opponents. it's not an either-or situation. iran gets something even if it is turned down. >> america six months away from the primary have they alienated women? there was blood be coming out of her eye, blood coming out of her wherever. >> features people will call us
barbarians for murdering millions of babies. >> we protect children than sell them like parts to a buick. >> we got a taste of that we saw denold trump and marco rubio talking about abortion and against abortion what is going here? are they alienating halflet country? >> to make the premise that all women share the same view on abortion is wrong. you have a lot of pro-life women and a lot of pro-choice men. with what has happened with planned parent hood even hillary clintonks pressed her abhorrence at some of the statements made and the manner in which they were made. the pro-life groups are a strong part of the republican constituency. people who feel strongly about that issue have sorted themselves out.
if you are pro-choice and that's your own issue you will be a democrat. >> he makes a point. aren't we being patron iz oning to assume all women would be against those statements? >> every time you play those things it's a gift to hillary clinton and every other democrat running. it is rhetoric that looks out of touch. if you look at the reality there are some incredibly powerful and strong voices among women in the republican party and the first to tell you that all these conversations are not helpful to them they would like to move beyond them and know that we like them. we being in the media, right. and they know that they are good tv. and so you have really substantive issues and that get lost in rhetoric and we don't acknowledge how many are playing strong roles in the opinion party and you have tone deaf comments that play into creating a rhetorical rhetorical volcanot keeps the whole machine moving.
>> does that mean the mostks treme on these views might get elected? >> i find it difficult to imagine and when you talk to the republican candidates, governor kasich or governor bush, they do not find it helpful to have all these conversations and all these discussions going on about issues they would rather not discuss. i don't think you are going to see the most extreme candidates. >> are they representative of the republican movement as a whole or extreme anomalies. >> after the gop defeat in the 2012 presidential election they themselves came out with sort of a damage assessment, what just happened. and one very clear evaluation of it was you need to do a better job being inclusive of women and minorities. exhibits a is donald trump. >> they. >> there are many examples. curiously and people forget
this, that planned parent hood not all that long ago was completely supported in a bipartisan fashion and it has become so hairp partisan that is unfortunate. you feel if you are outside of the line of whatever given party stance is you're bucking that tide and it should be a completely separate issue all together. what we are seeing with trump and the other system not helping the gop. >> the election is over a year ago. republicans will get their nominee. i doubt it will be donald trump. i think it will be more mainstream likely to be more pro-life probably. that's not a killer in winning a national election. george w. bush was. >> even if it is not trump if it's rubio who as if a woman is raped she should be forced to keep the baby. wouldn't women prefer someone
like hillary clinton. >> if that were the only issue, yes. but elections -- it's a patchwork quilt of different issues. different years have a different issue matrix. if this were the only issue i would say yes. there are other issues people are concerned about. you get a candidate and put it out front. i don't think it will hurt them. election ask a long way away. if. >> it sounds like you are down playing the importance of these issues. >> do not emphasize is the key. republican candidates would like to move o. democratic candidates would like to bring this up, it's great for fund-raising. and it's also great for the story. >> a lot of eyeballs on it. >> it's hard to move on from these conversailingss. you will see reasonable republican candidates trying to. >> we will not be talking about this. >> of course we will. >> talking to your base about this.
>> this is the republican primaries where you have a significant part of the party is very strong on this issue. and that's why you are seeing it discussed now. after the nomination republicans won't mention it, it will be the democrats. >> okay. that's all the time we have. thank you for your time. straight ahead: stripped of their freedom why are prisoners putting their lives on the line for people they have never met. >> what motivates is them they are able to have a little redemption that betters their own lives and saves others.
women bravely fight. but you might be surprised to learn 40%, some 4,000 of those firefighters are prisoners. we met some in california. sarah, these are prisoner, right? what motivates them to fight fires. >> these are inmates who volunteer to do this work. what motivates them is they are able to have a little redemption. do something that belters their own lives and also saves others and saves forests and saves people. it gives them them a true sense of purpose. >> did you get a taste of that, of that sense of purpose? >> i did. with the two gentlemen we speak with, what was interesting is the sense they were almost embarassed to talk about what got them there. these were real people who happened to do a crime but are paying for that crime. they are locked up and now they have a chance to better themselves.
one of the gentlemen we met is a father and has two children. it doesn't just say i'm a criminal and did something bad but look what i'm doing now am. >> let's look at an excerpt of your report. >> what are you in for? >> assault with a deadly weapon and 211? >> what's that? >> robbery. >> i'm in for all the assault with a deadly weapon with a firearm. >> reporter: they are firefighter convicts all charged with a low level felony or less. >> when saving those homes the community doesn't care if they are inmates or fire people, they are thankful. >> reporter: the inmate must learn to trust not only their captain, but one another. >> even in fire camp there are politics. on our crew when we leave this yard we are a team. it doesn't matter what color you are. all these guys right here are my brothers and i'll do whatever i need to do to make sure they get
to go home to their familys. >> in your larger report you said summer camp. it feel like you were with prisoners in a prison? >> not at first. when we pulled up looked around like where are we right now? it was like a sumper camp. that is a legitimate observation. when you step through the door to the main enterance area you knew you were dealing with the corrections facility. >> now this saves california millions and clearly it helps putting out fires. does it help rehabilitate these guys? >> the recidivism rate these crew system low. they not only have a tanningible skill but what keeps you from returning is the sense i'm a human and i don't have to do this. once you take someone's hopelessness and despair you are able to succeed. that's what this project does.
it is like being in the military, if you will. you hear people make similar comparisons there. is something about the teamwork and brotherhood that changed their outlook on how they see the outside world. >> when you think of prison you think of every man for himself and looking over your showlder. >> that's not what i got from these gentlemen. it did not feel like an episews of oz or i was going to get shanked in two minutes. they were reflective and saying about what they want to do once they are out. very forward thinking. whatever they are doing is clearly working. >> that's wonderful. great to hear your report. >> thank you. >> that does it for this week's show but the conversation continues on al jazeera.com,/thirdrail. good night.
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