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tv   Inside Story 2018 Ep 246  Al Jazeera  September 3, 2018 8:32pm-9:01pm +03

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their ability actually to bring in more weapons into the country the u.s. also consider this as this is part of a bigger picture because the truth is do. help iran in increasing its influence in the region and at the same time you have you have the saudis trying to push back the push back to these so the discussion really about what's happening in yemen the civil war that's happening in yemen and the transitional period that followed the arab spring that becomes just a side talk to everything that's going on the bigger picture if you'd like to if you'd like to say well our friend i just want to touch on what you said earlier because i mean there's been. disallowed acknowledgement earlier there was a u.n. report stating that war crimes have been perpetrated in yemen by all sides now human rights watch has a report and is has been going on for a few years so the intention of underlining the horrors of what's happening in yemen is there but what is lacking is there
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a mechanism that doesn't exist or is it difficult to actually implement that mechanism. so if you talk to an ordinary yemeni who is facing you know the speakable human suffering and yemen they literally lost any hope or faith in the international community or international humanitarian law was because none of that has ever been you know of the interest of yemenis the when the war started the saudi led question mobilized states at the u.n. security council and came into giving legitimacy to their intervention in yemen so we saw an international can isn't being you know in effect. to wage a war but when let's take the u.n. panel of experts when the u.n. human rights human rights council tried to. to stablish this international
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committee independent international committee committee to go and investigate the war crimes in yemen it took it like attendance and three rounds of you know would think draw member states because the u.s. and u.k. . stalked the voting in the beginning in the second time and then the third time so it seems like yemenis or any kind of advocacy trying to end the war and using international mechanism you have to fight two hundred percent in order to get like just ten percent and that's with making you know the prolong of the war and the prolong of the suffering and people really lost hope and that's a pattern actually it happens in many conflicts around the world the un's published several significant reports on conflicts a recent one for example recommended top military figures in myanmar be investigated for the genocide of rohingya in the rack and state and in the war in
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syria the acid government has been accused of using chemical weapons on a number of occasions south sudanese government forces and its allies were accused of potential war crimes for a campaign of rape and killing that targeted civilians in opposition held villages and one of the most controversial you and reports was by judge richard goldstone covering israel's attack on gaza in two thousand and eight report accuse both hamas and israel of war crimes and the liberal targeting civilians well bill human rights watch and art organization also have a very detailed reports from around the world but it seems that each time you guys come up with such a report the response from the various government is either that they're protecting their national interest or outright accusing such organizations of wanting to. you create chaos in the country of lions and in some cases even that you
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workers are spies in between brackets that must make it very difficult for you it is difficult and i should say it's difficult for us who have the relative luxury of being an international human rights organization think of how much more difficult and dangerous it is for human rights organizations on the ground in yemen who go and do this work day in day out they try to be impartial and independent very great risk to themselves and they have to do that their job is absolutely crucial because. other other organizations amnesty international human rights watch it's very difficult for us to get into yemen to get on the ground this is one reason why countries around the world have gone to support an extension of the mandate of the united nations inquiry it's independent it's a political it looks at violations by both sides it's absolutely true that the who
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the side has also committed very serious violations but despite all of the frustrations i should say there have been some positive steps and i'm talking about weapons supplies from other countries germany. norway have cut off weapons supplies to the coalition other countries like sweden and belgium have limited them or only licensing them on a case by case basis that's even further evidence to show that the united kingdom's and the united states continuing enthusiastic supply of weapons to military partners who have shown again and again that they're going to use those weapons and kill civilians irresponsibly and then not investigate there's no excuse for that continued weapon supply and it has to stop well i guess that's the core of the issue here how to arbitrate between the national interest of a country in this case for example selling weapons and a reality underground now but let me put that question. saudi have been
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a very good let's say at controlling the message coming out of yemen ever since this war started they know exactly who goes in and who comes out of the country and they make it extremely difficult for journalists and n.g.o.s so how much do we actually really know about what happens there and the extent of the abuses that happens probably that happen probably in a daily basis on the civilians. i mean i would quite quite disagree actually the messaging that has been coming out of yemen really doesn't help the saudis. for for many reasons i think first of all that the saudis haven't been able to convince the public if you'd like to say i wouldn't said i got an international level but special specially public opinion here at the u.k. or at the united states where actually they are who supply those those weapons that
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actually they are doing a good job in a good job in yemen but i think quite quite quite the opposite who sees have been able to hide behind this fact and actually the also the fact that the saudi arabia has don't have a good record in promoting human rights principles and democracy in in in general but that actually did help the who he is to hide behind that fact and commit more atrocities inside yemen and other than that also it was able enable them actually to hide the cause of the conflict which is the coup that started in september two thousand and two thousand and fourteen today i think hardly anyone mention mention that that coup or actually what would happen to the to the to the yemeni people the the the international mccann isms again i think sometimes they are necessary or sometimes it is important to put pressure as we saw with the coalition for example
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finally admitting to this specific specific incident but there is also a lot of a lot of lot of limitations i mean international investigations or committees formed to in during the times before don't have actually a good record around around around the war they are only good when if you'd like to say after the conflict is over after the the warring parties come maybe to the to the table and finalize a finalize a deal but during the the conflict saudi arabia if you didn't buy weapons from. the united kingdom it would go to the united states and if even the united states stopped it could go to other places russia is willing to sell as much as well weapons if not more to the to the to the to the saudis and imagine like if three years and you're only able to convince germany and belgium and sweden to stop weapons how many years you'd like to come and how many years you you would want actually to stop the arms flow going to the who's these are actually get their
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weapons from iran and the and the russians and they're really not really committed to international international norms so i think all of this is put in stake here for the united states is that actually. if it doesn't support what it considers one of its most important allies in the region that would directly benefit the iranians at this this is the thinking of some of the policy makers in d.c. and when you reflect that at the security council it does create a security council a council that is very much divided about the situation in in i'm just wondering why i don't think i'm sorry to jump in we were talking earlier about conflicts elsewhere i mean i read a few here. there is a pattern yes there are investigations yes people or institutions or governments are found guilty but we haven't really seen anyone who's actually facing justice. or maybe some in africa would argue actually the
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international criminal court is only there for them what what mechanism can we have i mean for example. at the moment no one is being held accountable not is being held accountable yes but no one is facing justice for anything i think that's both that's something i mean there is no such of limitations but actually a lot of the a lot of international law is also alike it's accumulation of practice. whether you like it or not the states do learn from each other so when people don't see that actually there has been accountability held in one part of the world that does have its effect on other and other parts of fragile want to bring into this conversation and briefly. this idea of holding. people or entities accountable i mean i think some would feel quite comfortable even if there's a damning report that comes out they know that it's an up and out cry it will come
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into will go and nothing will happen isn't that a bit one of the biggest issues here i'm very proud this a mistake when it comes to bringing justice and you know certain individuals or groups or of governments accountable to the crimes and atrocities committed in yemen but the question now is were ok what is the alternative it is to. do diplomacy and finding any sort of peace process and again as i said and the beginning of the program we need to include american and british diplomacy directly involved in creating peace process and yemen and not just leave it to the e.u. and a special envoy i really appreciate his efforts and the way he's trying to be inclusive
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and comprehensive to the different dynamics of the conflict in yemen but we need to feast on the big elephant in the room. and that is there are superpowers that are responsible for the tragedy and young men and they have to come and fix it so i think we're going on around the world and in any conflicts people will also blame it on. other superpowers depending where you are but bill at the end of the day your job is very important in at least a document's or what's going on usually conflicts end up with peace talks and most of this these horrors just get brushed under the table is that a huge issue why at the end of the day you never have a real and two conflicts in this and they keep on simmering because there is no accountability there is no reconciliation after that it makes it very difficult to
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face the future. yes absolutely i mean unfortunately real truth and reconciliation and accountability after conflict is often the exception rather than the rule if we don't however continue to do investigations as the conflict is raging even if there is no justice at the moment there will never be a possibility of justice in the future and if we're talking about criminal justice it can take a long time it will not reach most perpetrators but we have seen examples of course where very high level perpetrators have been put on trial and where human rights organizations have played a role in that it can take you know five ten fifteen years after the fact but human rights watch for example has been involved in the trials of milosevic and is sent. and you know if it wasn't for the documentation of us and local organizations we would never have got there i mean what we have got to see. is is and and what we have to see is increased pressure from the populations of countries like the united
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states and the u.k. against these continued weapon sales that are happening in their name and we are actually seeing a bit of movement on that issue in the united states congressional resolutions against arms sales to saudi arabia haven't succeeded but they have gained more support than we have seen for restrictions on weapon sales to many other countries we're not there yet but this is not the time to give up we have to keep the pressure on well certainly put it people living in those conflict zones as as a certain degree of frustration because they'd like to see these investigations taken further but we have reached the end of our shows or thanks to all our guests bill as veiled but she back and not so and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al-jazeera dot com and will for a discussion go to our facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash a.j.
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al-jazeera it's just swear every since. i know there are a colander hard these are the top stories on al-jazeera has been international condemnation of the court's decision to jail to reuters journalists. who were found guilty of possessing state secrets and sentenced to seven years behind bars they were arrested in december was investigation the killing of a. soldier's when hey reports. instead of walking free while lone inch or so who were taken from court and back to prison throughout this ordeal the reuters
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journalists had remained defiant and positive and that continued even after hearing they'd been sentenced to seven years in jail no no no no this is directly challenging the democracy and media freedom of our country we will calmly face the situation with our best efforts in the appeal since we do not do anything we have no fear we are going to do our best to face it. the verdict was widely condemned reuters says it will not give up and is considering what steps to take next today is a sad day for me and maher reuters journalists were alone in charge so who and the press everywhere these two admirable reporters have already spent more than eight months in prison on false charges designed to silence their reporting and intimidate the press. the journalists were arrested in december last year as they were investigating an arbitrary execution of ten reading in men by soldiers and militia the prosecution's case into don secret documents the reuters writer's head at the time of their arrest but while lone inch or so to say they were framed
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testifying that those papers were given to them by the police who moments later arrested them it seems that in doing their job they had gone too far in the minds of the military that still the most powerful force in me and my fellow has been unfairly accused we have been convicted of breaching the official secrets act we performed according to media ethics we didn't do anything harmful towards our nation or we didn't commit any crime however they decided to convict us anyway. the verdict will heat more international pressure on me and my own son sujit once a campaigner for freedom of speech and human rights she remained largely silent throughout the trial the government now has the ability to issue pardons for while alone and to also to journalists imprisoned for investigating a crime signaling the end of media freedom in myanmar wayne hay al jazeera bangkok . china's president xi jinping has posed sixty billion dollars in financial support
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to africa is hosting a major summit in beijing aimed at deepening ties. we follow a five no approach in our relations effort or no interference in african countries pursued development path fitting their national conditions. no interference in african countries internal affairs it's no imposition of our will on african countries no attachment of political strings to assistance to africa and not seeking selfish political gains through investment and financing cooperation with africa. a state of emergency has been declared by the u.n. backed government in libya after a week of fighting in the capital tripoli at least forty one people have been killed one hundred others injured including many civilians the u.n. is calling on all sides to abide by a previously agreed cease fire deal. iraq's first parliamentary session since the
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disputed election in may is underway eleven political groups have agreed to create an alliance that could give them a working majority the coalition's made up of those old influential. prime minister hydraulic body between them they have one hundred seventy seven members of parliament giving them an outright majority yemen's government has ordered a temporary halt to imports of luxury goods in an attempt to prop up the struggling currency people in the southern city of aden have been burning tires and blocking roads in protest against the terrorists an economic situation yemeni realises last more than half its value since the saudi coalition began its offensive in two thousand and fifteen. brazil's president says hundreds of years of history have been destroyed in a massive fire at the national museum two hundred year old building in rio de janeiro some of the region's best preserved human fossils and ancient egyptian artifacts. those are your headlines and back with more news here on al-jazeera that's after the people's health.
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seven billion people live planetary. and every year six point five trillion dollars is spent keeping them healthy in. the pursuit of beautiful health care challenges governments worldwide and. we're going to six very different countries to see the constant battle to successfully tonight for the people's health. the u.k.'s national health service is recognized as one of the best in the world despite its many challenges. at its heart is a network of nearly ten thousand local doctors practices which provide frontline primary health care to some sixty million people living in the u.k.
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today was thirty. music open. at one general practice in multicultural london we see the system of primary care put through its paces. under pressure and relentless demand yet still one of the most robust primary health systems anywhere. dr rachel hopkins is one of eleven general practitioners of g.p.'s at the killick st health center in central london well other been arriving here on a regular basis for seventeen years this month and eighteen years ago this was nothing it was a car park here and the health authority with foresight snapped up the land and built the building the health authority advertise for g.p.'s to start the new
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practice that they planned only we got it i can't quite stiff competition from other people who are interested in this great opportunity to build a new practice in an area that was very under doctor's omarion need and he would be evident building up our practice. or you could actually help a guy who. calls you get. an hour just over ten thousand patients they normally killing three helps and they're all good but there's quite a high turnover circle will come and go but there are people who've been with us for years about a quarter of our patients go each year to rear place by new ones so it's a continual battle to keep up with everybody and to and help the new patients settle into our service. general practices like killick street provide free public primary health care for
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the local community both young and old. come on it was he had to count on it we had very bright guy law says he's developed smiley very nicely has initiated every monday afternoon the practice runs a baby clinic you don't have a new worries about her as she always sees something i don't know that it's not that you don't hurt her eyes a bit it's not really all right but sometimes when we go here when we go there at this age the eyes don't coordinate fully but there should be. it would need to buy four months old ok so if you notice anything like that happening after four months we'll see that is there anything in the family on either side of people with a screen two eyes not all. that will board all the. babies in the u.k. have to checkups the first one when they're born and then the next check is it's six to eight weeks but a huge potential physical health problems things like heart problems of course
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difficulties with feeding on growing well be a parent to perth and should be a parent by six to eight weeks as a medical student i was very moved by the placement in the us working with children who were sick in hospital who were being discharged home for their treatment is complete because the insurance money had run out if that was so shocking to me as a british doctor that children can be denied access to kava cuz insurance money have just all for us back looks like me and he's nice and strong excellent want to healthy. you look around and you. in one nine hundred forty eight the uki set up the national health service. funded through the tax system its founding principle is that health care should be free at the point of need. critical to keeping this ethos to life is primary care provision
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which serves the vast majority of patients and saves billions of pounds. countries that have a primary health care system like we do with the n.h.s. and general practice of a much more cost effective system bred to countries like the usa that spend far greater percentage of g.d.p. on health and get far worse results statistically because we try to understand our patients get to know them individually we can come up with far more appropriate care in a recent international survey by the commonwealth fund the yuki's health care was ranked first out of eleven countries and the united states last despite the fact that the uki spent just nine point one percent of its g.d.p. on health care and the united states almost double that. if we didn't exist or probably cat doctors disappeared overnight would be the end of the n.h.s. that's how the n.h.s. works with a relatively small budget you're able to cover the majority of health conditions.
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today the yuki's primary care provides ninety percent of all health care for only eight point five percent of the total health budget. i would hope that our privatized system is the envy of the world it means that every person this country has been titled in to develop the past the relationship with someone you remember them and know what's wrong with them and be able to help them through periods of stress or physical ill health the uki is said to have a higher percentage of doctors working in primary care compared to other european countries. britain is also internationally recognized for having the highest number of people with an assigned primary care provider one thousand percent of the population are registered with a general practitioner. like george has signed up to can extract health center. on the two of them and it seems to. me the british special i don't
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know but that's where it makes me feel. if. i'm going to look at bank of well here i am if it's a dense. linda stay in is a senior practice nurse to save money and free up doctors time patients who need minor ongoing treatment are cared for by nurses get to take the show off george if that's ok george has been coming here for seventeen years. ever since it. can. except that. it's quite a few years and i've been there and up in three with the drug. the whole time and she's been really really great sibylla about it and made a very very nice choice how painful is it.


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