on february the thirteenth twenty twelve reporter marie colvin ad photographer paul conroy snuck into syria they were on a mission to tell the stories of syrian civilians trapped in the war torn city of homs the call them it would be her last assignment on february twenty second she and another journalist french photographer remi were killed by the syrian army convoy and others were wounded but survived that story is told in an upcoming documentary under the wire based on conrad's book of the same title have a look. it was a. small. impassioned. i counted toward. the civilian area and said she read what is your exit strategy. i want to tell the stories of each

person. and i just. said. that. the drive through the from. joining us from london we have the film's director chris martin and paul conroy the photographer who was with marie in syria and always stood by new york cats colvin marie hello everybody it is good to have you here. this is an unusual film it's an intriguing film it feels like a movie course where were you when you thought i need to make this documentary.

trinidad. i was filming i was actually filming. having a shoot in the very very present island of trinidad and i heard about marie marie and remy being killed and. i started sleeping a lot of attention and i sed i saw these clips on you tube of paul making a play and he was trapped and it just gripped me then and we were when we were going out on the shoot in the in the days all the crew would be saying is he out of the out of the out and i think everybody you know i think everybody you sort of encountered the story has just been kind of thrown by it's i don't know i have from from from the very first moment really poor you know as i think of you internet that's where we were homes. for you you you have a return of that and you have a unique role in this film because i was sitting there in the theater and this this

horror that is happening and we reliving it move you and all the other people who were involved and there with you in arms but we're also not thing because you also have a wiki you also know humor is so dry as well how how do you do that because you must be retelling the story so many times. yes i mean you may actually it's not just the most i mean a lot of people when they read the book said it's like it's the funniest black. tragedy that they've ever had but that stems from doing the job you know memory at an incredible sense of humor and so that's how we kind of bounced off each other getting getting through doing the job and you know it's i think it's important that it carried on like that through the book and in the film and it's kind of it's reassured him in the cinema when you're watching it and you do it the audience laugh and at the beginning there's a few parts where you know you can have the chuckles and that when i hear that i

kind of think you know that that engage and that they go on on the trip where there's uma you know us cats about where they may you might you know it was absolutely silent i would it's what reminds me so much of mary next up to paul i've never met anyone but paul and mary who had this really dark sense of humor mary had us all laughing when she you know lost her eye. it was just a funny funny story it's hard to imagine but the way she told it had everyone i think i honestly thought she had come out of homes that's one story that the news reports were all wrong and she was fine. but obviously she didn't. you know the run up in the press on this documentary have people sharing their own reflections online about your sister i want to share just the two for members of our community this is so my yahoo tweets and marie colvin was a huge reason i went into journalism when she passed away i sent my father

a brief bio and said this is my dream job and he wasn't very excited to say the least and so my as now a journalist oftentimes with al-jazeera another person writes in on twitter saying that as a tom all i'm grateful for her and she had the accurate and unbiased understanding towards a prolonged civil war in the island country sri lanka where she lost her left by sri lankan army r.p.g. and april two thousand and one cat she became really known and recognizable for that pats tell us about that time interval i tell you. you just. tumble. community has spent so incredibly supportive of my family and done so much like you see so. i really appreciate that from now and i know that marie here so much to make their voices for her and the journalism student who wrote and i'm sure her parents might

not be thrilled. to be dangerous but. it makes me really happy you know we've started journalism school in greece named she was so supportive of us because she believed in how the stock was especially today. if your. students are interested in following greece. paul there's a big picture behind me and it's a view a marine working together and he sees what was it do you think that made your working relationship work so well and obviously the same black sense of humor but there's going to be a lot more than that carry you through was a. yeah i mean i don't honestly think it boiled back to how we first met in syria i think it was fourteen years ago i just tried to build a boat and sneak into iraq on this homemade boat and no one else would talk to me when i got captured only the journalist said you spoke to but everyone but marie

walked and i remember i was sitting in the boat on my own and she just walked in she went. to the boat and i can't let go of them lethally put me so i read it was quote my i want to buy you a whisky ok i know that you've inherited your sister's journalism skills because the boat was made out of what can you ask that question i don't see. why it was made out of what paul i had been a fan it was made those of. in a true ball of string and the sum spread. that was very classy talk to someone for talk offense thank you people. i want to share this this is from sylvia who says now what stands out the most to her about marie is bearing witness i think that this was really marie colvin's vocation by reading articles from different war zones we were witnesses to and we couldn't say any more that we didn't know chris i want to direct this one to you because in making this film and

watching it there is no way to say that we didn't know even if you missed what happened back at the start of the syrian war does this resonate with you yeah absolutely i mean you know one of the things in making it it's taken us a while to make the film i mean these are big these are big productions and financially and just logistically and so you know we've we've been working on it the course of the whole syrian. catastrophe really i think is the only word that you could that i could use and a lot of people you know a lot of people that we spoke to syrian people that we were looking for for archive of the time i mean there was an incredible understandable disillusionment that set in and they really didn't want to actually talk to a lot of western journalists that had enough because nothing had happened and then as soon as you'd mention the rian paul you know the lights go on and yeah we'll

help you what you want and suddenly the gates opened and i talked to them about it and they said to me very clearly they are the only people who actually understood what we went through you know and they that they actually lived through it and you know tragically for marie paid the same kind of price that that they paid so. i mean i'm not saying that you have to lose your life to be special but i think it sort of shows something about about what marie did you know and how far she would take it and pull together and how much it meant to people on the ground i mean it meant a lot you know i know that for a fact from the people who spent chris i want to give people a sense of how long this how the story and how you get poor and marrying into syria in your documentary have a look at the several i was like it's. the bus and the mind is a millimeter. in the soldiers and this is fifty yards away.

really this if it is. a shot always in the past on the shadow. the shadow gives it to another shadow. dot dot dot dot. and then just a little flash of a line of the trail. i don't know if it's the city a moment when there is it's a truck i don't know i just. run.

i just see my brain. we made that you know and she just one of them she. indeed paul we got this tweet on that experience. out of the matter question said she has how does it enter syria and did you have any protection from the government or into how to talk to us about that and you say that it was basically pits black shadowy and you're just kind of following along in the dark what was that like. that i mean it was it was a leap of faith a lot of it we met people in beirut and it took a long time to establish contacts and we were literally put into a truck taken affair that taken out and you know we think was a minefield we went through and then we were just given to the people we had no protection the only the only information we had was that lebanese intelligence had

told us that. any journalists found in or around homs were to be executed and have the bodies thrown on the battlefield so we kind of knew that going in which i didn't obviously at that another layer of. trepidation but it was very much a leap of faith and just to trust that the people you would get passed on to work with the right people. you know probably one of the most terrifying things that memory that was that was that first journey and it was a real them test of anyone's mouth ink and something to that journey with you and stay with the why you're in homs and his name is why al he's a remarkable young syrian can you talk to us about how important he was because he wouldn't leave here absolutely while i mean honestly if there's any you know i don't use the word a lot if i very rarely use it but while in my mind was a hero the moment while any wouldn't accept any payment just one to that there was peace. and he was just so integrity to everything and communications

became you know fluent understood subtlety and nuance and after the you know he was really badly injured in the attack and he would not leave you know he knew. really well he grew up that as a kid he played that he knew the ways in and out and you know he just would not leave the you know such a person of on a you really don't meet too many people like that told i tell you something about why else he got. you know it's a way out when when we were looking for i hope he doesn't mind me saying this type of telling you this but when we hear when we contacted him he lives in scandinavia now and we had to arrange for a visa for him to come to england and he was late for the. for the interview at the embassy and we said you know why are you late he said oh i just didn't have the money for the taxi. so when he came to england i cut him an envelope and we had

some money in it and i wrote to mrs y.l. and i said in england we have a tradition you know that if someone comes over from a foreign country to do an interview we give them you know this this thing and he just looked at me and he does when that. nice try but my wife wouldn't. you know i think it's you know you know you it's it's almost like i don't know what do you think about this i know you think this paul but when you you know you meet like a man or a woman or would have but a person of just absolute honor you know and he really is you know in this game you know you meet a lot of in this business you meet a lot of people really impressive people who've been through things but while really stands out for me i mean that guy is an honorable honorable man and you know he's a fine representative of his country and you know i salute him really he's a he's the he's that for me he's the sort of unsung hero of the you know we don't

when we say in the pool but you know. you know he's a really really top person one that. everybody is very supportive of that lawsuit that i brought against syria and he was that one of the first people that my attorneys at the center for justice and accountability interview and he just he was. supportive isn't even a word he was sort of proud of me i'm humble i guess but i think you know he didn't take credit that he was really into it also that lawsuit. i know that that definitely showed in the film but the person of integrity that he was but in addition to that so many questions that we're getting here for you paul i want to bring up just to this is syria who says how you got out of homs with his with your leg injury after the trauma of losing both marie and the photographer remi how about when you landed back in england did you have the same mentality towards

journalism after witnessing those dustin and piggybacking on some way here once to talk about your emotional aftermath after all that you witnessed. ok yeah i mean again now it's you know anyone who watches the film well will see in the film that one of the things that really stuck with me and stick with the rest of my life is when i was leaving in the tunnel they they said please go out and tell the world so london back in england eventually after the skate and i really have never changed from the fact that i'm almost still on the job you know my my it didn't end when i got to england in fact it really actually part of it began and goes for how i've dealt with it as well i just haven't allowed myself to fall into self-pity it's been like i've come out and i've still got a job to do and that is to keep telling the world about the syrian people and that

the massacre and the slaughter is that we witness i owe it to memory to remi all of the people who did everything to get me this you know i so i never look was about to stop i just look at this is a continuation of that final assignment. i want to show some headlines really important headlines family of killed us journalist marie colvin says syria. we called his family launches battle for justice. and assad regime assassinated journalist marie colvin says court claim this is some cool case you've got by on joint to take us back to how it started and where we are right now where you are right now what paul might be going mad if you know it all started with paul telling me that marie had been trying to joe made a tape of my dream that gravity was getting watching him and he knew that the syrian government had targeted riyadh was so angry i mean overwhelming feeling was

anger. i was in touch with the reporters without borders the bench where they put me in touch with the lawyers who represent me now the center for justice and accountability. and we've been able to prove over the years of abuse with refugees and defectors people who risked their lives to smuggle out documents and evidence but we brought a suit in d.c. district court. we have default judgment we're waiting for the for the final order which should be coming soon and. saying let's hear your poem out of four kids so i think she might be a little distracted. but i really initially brought it. like you said it took three justice to the headlights read but as it proceeded our quick very quickly it took i'm meaning to give a voice to the syrian people so bring to light the danger you know like journalists

risking their lives to bring that news to us and how important that is how critical it is if there's no one on the ground you know right now there's. so much less news coming out of syria it's hard to know the depths that the suffering that give voice to the individuals on the grounds are slaughtered. and so the lawsuit is as much the syrian people at this point as it is for my family i want them to know that we haven't forgotten them and so we are trying to work. it seems minor really i know very would have done a lot more. but when i do you know someone on twitter this is thomas he says i think the family will have a good case against the assad regime there's a lot of evidence confirming the deliberate killing of marie colvin and holmes by the regime the regime however will not care much about the case or any final

judgment so there is that but but picking up on that last sentence there is what i want to pivot to thinking about the syrian government and the war thus far scott here in the killing of marie colvin was not just the killing of a journalist it was an attempted to turn for any journalist and remember all of the syrian journalists who've been killed detained and tortured bringing us that window on war and the evil of those we. do you want to take that on but there are chilling of fact after the death of marie and remy. you know i mean i think paula's probably better to talk about it but i would say that. you know it was successful in the sense that people from going in you know i mean the targeting of journalists has become something that's you know it's become more and more obvious tactic of governments and warring parties is that you know if you can stop the message coming out then you know that's

a big and in this sort of information. it's a it's a it's a big part of the battle and so i think you know i think you know i think deliberately targeting journalists is. part of the war that they waged any it was successful i would certainly have to take out the journalists first show this poor guy had. in so yes kill a messenger war is kill the messenger is a strategy and i don't think it's way in completely because i think you know it drives you know when people see what happened to mary and hopefully when they see the book you know they'll realize that they mail they may get away with so much but you know at the end of the day with that with the with what captain scott. and highlight in this you know i just think the case is so important and speaking i was on one just to prevent the slow creeping rehabilitation of the assad regime that

we're starting to see the beginnings of now hopefully when the case is settled and it's all done and does that the people will look at this regime in blood on their hands and they will not see people we should do business with that is critical that the prison is focused back on this regime the crimes they've committed against their own people and not allow them back slowly into this into a normal society and i think i could say you know i think that people are going to you know. i can. no. so much more than what's actually necessary just hundreds and hundreds of documents translated. something criminal for. criminal. this. country. hopefully one day

a criminal trial so i guess that means chavis was here and without woody and says well look here are my laptop this is a very old article from the telegraph a u.k. national newspaper and they were quoting from a special ceremony that she held she was a guest that in twenty ten min moralizing other journalists and cameramen and staff in the field who had died as they were doing their duty as they were doing their work and she says here in the age of twenty four seven rolling news blogs and tweets and constant call wherever we are but war reporting is still essentially the same someone has to go there and see what is happening and let me just show you here this is homs in syria and this is where poor was with marie and this was back in two thousand and twelve this is marie colvin this is what we can't get so much anymore that reporting in the field during a conflict really couldn't leave us with this week from sunny who says still missed

every day thank you and rest in power marie kat and chris paul thank you so much for joining us under the wire opens this week in the u.k. and from september the seventh have a look here my laptop you can download it wherever you happen to be in the world i highly recommend it thank you guests for being with us to take care. september on al-jazeera the fourth eastern economic forum is to be held in the city of le divorce talk as russia looks to expand its influence in the asia pacific region on television and online the stream continues to tap into the extraordinary potential of social media to disseminate news the presidents of russia turkey and iran will meet into her on for another summit seeking an end to the war in syria we'll have extensive coverage people in power continues to examine the use and abuse of power around the world the united nations general assembly holds

a seventy third session what action will it take on atrocities in me in march and yemen we'll bring you all the news september on al-jazeera. the occupied west bank city of hebron is on the front line of the arab israeli conflict you don't really care after a while of palestinians don't like it i don't like it but you just don't care about one man is standing up to israeli pressure to sell his house for an unimaginable figure that you call a good guy who is in the midst of it going to al-jazeera world tells the story of the house the symbol of resistance to continuing occupation the hundred million dollar home. al-jazeera. where everyone. in the final part of a six part series filmed of

a five year olds. the people of who can still fight for their land. the village chief is imprisonment. and forced underground the filmmaker has become part of the soccer. crackdown the concluding part of the economy china's democracy experiment on al-jazeera. but usually rebel delegation delays travel to geneva where the latest round of yemeni told a jew to start on first say. hello i'm sure with our jazeera live from doha also coming up just days after slashing

aid to pakistan the u.s. secretary of state arrives in islamabad. warplanes bombed the syrian region of italy killing seventeen people almost three million people are in harm's way. as from watergate to donald trump's white house bob woodward's new book says the u.s. president wanted to have syria's leader assassinated. but first u.n. break could toss between the warring parties of yemen have apparently stalled out jazeera has learned that a delegation has refused to leave for geneva the rebel group says preconditions agreed upon by the u.n. have not been met the talks between the internationally recognized government of. months or hardy and the who says were to be the first public meeting between the

parties since twenty sixteen but i've been speaking to hussein who's a pretty journalist he says the u.n. has backtracked on a key condition that was agreed ahead of the talks. that was the deal of the truck with the united nations envoy to yemen when he was in somalia signed. the deal with the plane that will take many delegates from us cuz it will take as will some of critically injured civilians schoolish and out of thousands of people a few million who need medical help outside yemen and oman has to treat people in must cut but yesterday they might nation actually did not keep it second even with yemeni delegation from sanaa and they say they will send only a small you in flight to take only then you need to get cheaper that's why the

delegates in sanaa has if you. just said just plan that because what they say that this was not what we have agreed before. all right me live now to her son andrew symonds who's covering the events in yemen from neighboring g.p.c. and andrew said it seems there's a there's a hit at the very least of these since the fall of even get under way. well it would seem that way certainly i'm not saying we don't have word from the united nations yet gryphus the u.n. special envoy for so much energy in trying to get sides together in geneva has not yet responded to this suggestion that they were laid to palm some sort of agreement to actually take injured with the many delegation of gucci's to mom so it is pretty unclear at this point as to whether or not it is more than a hiccup as as you describe it certainly doesn't buy it well for what is going to

be a genuine effort to try to get some confidence building to the process now where have we heard this before syria of course the long long attempt to get agreement between the warring sides in the same location geneva it is unclear on the streets in yemen particularly southern yemen there is anger anger not just directed at the politicians but also at the u.n. and the international community for the desperate situation the people in the economy is in in a dire state and so really the position of all concerned in yemen right now is that really a mix of really quite some of the acceptance that there's very little hope these talks will actually deliver anything mixed with some level of optimism the

has to be some light in the desperation and people feel well very mixed in their views. boyce's. the people are destroyed and the situation requires mutual agreement if we really are arabs and we really are patriotic we have to compromise and can see each other and god willing we will all succeed and the country will have a space for us all no one wants anything but peace. we call on all the parties in those disagreeing to unite under one banner in order to relieve the people from the division they've reached and relieve them from suffering and also to end the siege and the recent deterioration of the currency also to put the country's interests above their own personal interests and shown their differences. now the demonstrations we've seen in yemen went through three days from sunday on woods we're expecting more on wednesday it isn't coincidental that was seeing this

mobilization of people there is a political aspect to it as well in aden the temporary governing council which is backed by the united arab emirates has made a cold for civilians its activity for test against the tolls another twist in this rather complex fat the reasoning behind this is according to this temporary counsel that that also involves well they didn't want to be involved according to reports so this is a sort of mixed picture we're getting from yemen but the bottom line is the desperation is of melting point and then the norwegian refugee council has stated in a new release that it sees the future unless something radical is changed with the yemeni currency now plummeting to an all time low against the dollar and with food prices spiraling the threat of famine gets greater it is now

a situation where according to the n.r.c. the norwegian refugee council could be more deaths through famine and this situation with the economy than the deaths of thousands of deaths inflicted by a the warring sides so getting a view from the desperate the really desperate those malnourished those injured in hospital would give you a better picture of the desperation but for now these demonstrations indicates that there is really a climate now in yemen more angry that i have a about the lack of cohesion this is among civilians i hasten to add the lack of cohesion it seems in trying to get some sort of settlement everything rests with geneva but it doesn't bite well to have this situation with the hutu rebels now saying to the u.n. renee go on a deal is that deal resolved now with a flight to amman not clear not clear yet. andrew simmons live in djibouti thank

you. now the u.s. secretary of state has just arrived in pakistan days after three hundred million dollars worth of military aid was cancelled in his first official meeting with the new the elected prime minister imran khan he's expected to talk about counterterrorism relations between the two countries have worsened in the past we can talk live to our correspondent in islamabad i can't imagine that this first encounter is going to be a very good natured affair. obviously read all the problems regarding the two countries and the fact that that relationship is now almost in the deep freeze it is going to be an extremely crucial now the u.s. secretary of state had already been talking to the media on board the flight. that the object of this. their relationship with pakistan number one and.

a new page by finding common ground but it is going to be very difficult to find that common ground given the fact that the united states is now looking forward. to the war in afghanistan the longest in u.s. three day world war in pakistan headed to try and bring that dollar bond.