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tv   The Stream 2018 Ep 194  Al Jazeera  December 5, 2018 5:32pm-6:01pm +03

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people like john burke the speaker of the house that means basically signaling look if she gets if she loses the vote by two or three she could go to another vote they could do some strong arm tactics with the party whips maybe and she might be able to pull it off but if the numbers were that big i.e. as big as one hundred she's political toast and that in effect means an exit from i suppose. odd potentially i mean you know as well as i do what they say about a week in politics peter there is still time yet for that gap to close but at the moment it looks almost impossible and i was getting on to what happened yesterday in parliament on tuesday these three votes lost by the government forty years since anything like that has happened one of them putting the government in contempt of parliament for its failure to release the full legal advice that it was given by own attorney general on the deal struck with brussels that is significant it also lost a vote on
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a procedural procedural matter that effectively hands control back to parliament in the event that that vote is lost next week and what that means is the government has openly said it hasn't got a plan b. parliament will be able to put forward a plan b. that is important because there is clearly now no majority in parliament for the hardest briggs's of all the so-called no deal breaks it which a minority in her party on the far right of a party would like to see that now becomes very unlikely the options narrow therefore towards either as you suggest a repeat vote on to reserve may's deal if she loses it first time around maybe make a few tweaks to it at perhaps another option which is an even softer version of bragg's it talking about the norway style deal that puts the u.k. along with norway other countries in the single market with freedom of movement in the customs union no longer with a say over how the rules are made but more or less the sort of deal that have now
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or as again you suggested no breaks if at all via the route of a second referendum those become the options now looking likely if she loses that vote next week so that's pretty significant it pushes the whole debate much closer towards the remaining in the e.u. side than has been the case in the entirety of the last two years is there another reality as well as as far as her for the. he is concerned jonah and it might be this that we're watching picks the german court in here is a calculation on the part of those people who would like to get rid of mrs may in her own party that the country wouldn't vote for a prime minister corbin because that would inevitably mean a general election at the worst possible time and on top of that no conservative front bench or backbench will wants to put themselves forward to become prime minister because it's it is the definition of being a political poison chalice i mean i think all sorts of options as
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far as i read it now becomes possible i mean don't forget the idea of a general election has got to be approved by parliament under the fixed terms farm and act passed by david cameron during his administration it's very difficult to trigger an election that would have to be passes a by majority in parliament it's by no means clear that that majority exists or an election is not a foregone conclusion what now those interviews if you like as of the results of tuesday if you look at the fact or the part the likelihood now that there is no hard brakes it helps in that reason may's deal is the only option that really comes close in any way to equating to a breaks in of the sort that's been talked about for all this time then those on the right of the party pushing for the hard break that may now be brought into line behind her deal that i think is the government's probably best hope at this point. if she loses that vote next week and if that doesn't happen and those don't come in
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to loan into line those people then again we are faced with the possibility of a leadership challenge within the conservative party that may be the next desperate bid to wrench back control of this brigs it process the forty eight letters that we were talking about over the course of the last two weeks could that now again become a possibility so the reason may may lose her premiership but again you've got to ask the question if she loses that vote next week this is a deal that she has made entirely her own she has not offered any alternative in fact she has steadfastly said there is no plan b. it's this deal or no deal there's nothing else on the table if she loses the vote therefore is it credible that she begins that she manages to stay in power is it credible that she retains enough already to continue to be the prime minister of this country the possibility therefore that she might resign so i think all sorts of things are still in play and i notice liam fox a trade minister just in the past ninety minutes or so saying we might get
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a new deal but that doesn't actually mean a no deal bricks it despite what people like i think it was an paterson this time yesterday in an interview with one of the local broadcasters in the u.k. who's a former environment minister saying look people who voted for brics it are unhappy with her breaks a deal because they actually voted for a new deal with the european union because they want to sever all ties leave the e.u. completely and utterly and then do trade with other w t o members so that's something that she's got to square away and sell as well. i mean look in the end nobody knew what they were voting for they were voting for the idea of britain leaving the european union not the mechanism by which that would become possible or what the consequences of any of it might be so there is no monopoly on the argument anywhere in britain now for what breaks it actually means that's on the one hand on
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the other hand let me bring you up to date with this issue of the legal advice that was given to the government by geoffrey cox q.c. he's an m.p. in the tory party he's the attorney general he stood up on monday and gave the edited highlights of his advice the government was reluctant to have it all released in full this substance of what he said on monday it was all about the backstop which is this arrangement in terms of which passed the transition period and before a free trade arrangement is struck britain remains in a customs union with special arrangements for northern ireland until such time as a free trade deal is struck that is what has alienated the support of the unionists to prop up the party of northern ireland unionists and has enraged the presses on the right because they say you can't make a trade deal if you're stuck in a customs union following rules that you have no say over so that really that advice has just been released in the last how half hour or so following the contempt of parliament vote forgive me it's interminably complicated anyway three
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keep paragraphs emerge from this advice the backstop will endure indefinitely until a superseding agreement takes its place the review mechanism in place does not allow any unilateral exit from that backstop and there is a legal risk that the u.k. may become stuck in protected and repeated rounds of negotiations now the issue that arises from this hard and fast legal advice is how on earth is her deal in any way in the national interest and that is what is going to come very much. interview now it precludes free trade arrangements potentially indefinitely it has nothing to do with britain taking back control it becomes a rule take it day and age the heartbreaks it is on the right of the party arguably it alienates pretty much everyone else when they look at this legal advice because there is nothing in this deal for specifically in this issue that can be said to be
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in the national interest and that i think becomes the prime minister and this government's principle problem with any sort breaks at this point and some of her detractors are saying even if she does suffer a thumping defeat here she should still try to pull off that escapology routine that she's managed for the past more than a couple of months particularly since hash tag chuck checkers and renegotiate it with the rest of the european union but you want to renegotiate with what does she mean to go see it over because if she loses this vote say by eighty or one hundred she's weaker than she's ever been. you know i mean these fanciful flags are still being flown in various quarters it's true to say yes go go back to the european union and renegotiate this deal i mean the european union cannot be any clearer in its position. you know the deal that britain has been
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offered and has agreed with the european union is the only deal they're prepared to offer under the circumstances as they are. the only wiggle room that they have showed and in any way shape or form are possibilities involving the extension of the transition period some suggestion that article fifty that notice period might be extended but only if there are terms that the european is interested in your opinion is interested in reconsidering what are they if britain is willing to relinquish freedom of movement come back to the table and talk away talk about a norway style arrangement where freedom of movement is retained maybe no they know no breaks it or via the route of a referendum in which britain needs more time to arrange a referendum maybe tweaking the terms of this deal or no way and i think that is the reality and anybody who says to go back and renegotiate i has no basis to think
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that that is possible we're getting a drip drip of more information as we are having our chats jonah abut this protracted breck's it talks via the backstop that you were mentioning there i mean the key sentence may be the advice on how to exit the agreement to prevent the return of a hardboard with the northern ireland and e.u. member ireland is under scrutiny particularly by the d u p the democratic unionist party of belfast she needs them on board clearly but the arithmetic the numbers are stacking up against innes in such a degree i guess that it doesn't matter if the d.p. are their own not because if the numbers are so big that the u.p.a. representation in the house of commons in london wouldn't be enough to save her anyway but then there's the the knob issue of a hard border versus soft border. what i mean it's that's true in
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terms of next week's deal i mean there's a there's a another issue to do with the and that is that there are ten seats in parliament are the only thing that affords to reserve a a working majority in parliament. the d u p at the moment. appears to have suspended that arrangement regardless of next week's vote they voted against the government a number of times now the reality is as long as they continue to vote against the government to reason may is the leader of a minority government there is not a working majority in parliament. the do you piece is not going to change its mind because of the backstop because they see it as treating in a different way northern ireland from the rest of the united kingdom because of special arrangements to do with northern ireland in terms of that backstop they will retain some elements of the single market and therefore they will have to be regulated reboarded checks down the irish sea between northern ireland and the
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united kingdom in order to make sure there is no hard border on the island of ireland and that's something that they fundamentally ideologically politically reject so as long as this deal remains on the table there doesn't seem to be any way of taking the northern ireland unionists back into the fold and therefore you know it's not just about the big numbers next week it's about day to day government stories of may's got a real problem jonah for the moment many thanks jeremy corbyn the labor party opposition leader there on his feet trying to take some political chunks out of theresa may the u.k. prime minister day two of the debate focusing in on cybersecurity and what they're going to do with it how they're going to handle it how they're going to deconstruct it because cybersecurity is a big deal of course these days identity theft as well but there are elements to all the main treaties that constitute the european union from the treaty of rome to the mastery treaty through talking about cybersecurity so the prime minister space sickly going to be telling the house how they will deconstruct those arrangements
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as they head towards brecht sits in march of twenty nineteen she had a bruising day yesterday and she lost three areas of her plans and the main one is the slow. the humiliating aspect that journal is talking about there the way that the government had to and they've just done it in the last hour or so publish their legal advice because her attorney general who's basically toeing the line which was what's in the public interest is not the same as being of interest to the public the house of commons however totally disagreed with her and him on that and that's why they've just published the legal advice that the attorney general put together and was reacting to of course mrs may is in trouble the speaker of the house john burke we were getting cutaway shots of him there he's the gentleman sitting at the way back at the back end of the chamber when they were in the run up to this five day debate finishing with
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a vote his line was and he was signaling this very clearly we should put a mini plan b. into what we will ultimately vote on at the end of five days because his worry is that if there isn't a mini plan b. in the planning or in the planning stages if mrs may loses and loses big there is then nothing to go to apart from a hard crash out of the european union as soon as they start talking about brics it will keep your cross all the developments here on al-jazeera. istanbul's chief prosecutor's office has filed an application for arrest warrants for two of the saudi crown prince his former top aides over the killing of jamal khashoggi prosecutors say they strongly suspect the former deputy intelligence
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