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with its former trade partners in the terms in the form of the rest of the u.k. well that also is it is a problem so it makes people want independence more but it makes in some ways the economic consequences of independence far more severe than they were in 24 team but those arguments haven't dented voting intentions yet 18 opinion polls in a row show a lead for independence and an expected learned slight win for the scottish nationalists in may's parliamentary election could yet create an unstoppable democratic force jonah hold al-jazeera. this is al-jazeera these are your top stories an independent panel set up by the world health organization has criticized china's early response to the pandemic it also criticized the w h o's initial actions the full report to be released in may and the w.h.o.
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briefly interrupted by a fire in a bar i stopped for moved out of the capitol building often incident at a homeless shelter washington d.c. remains on the an unprecedented security lockdown. security forces in guatemala have broken up a group of central american migrants who set up camp at a roadblock the government is refusing to let them continue on their journey towards the u.s. . russian opposition figure alexina volney is calling on his supporters to take to the streets follows a court order for him to remain in detention for the next 30 days he was arrested on sunday after returning from germany where he spent 5 months recovering from poisoning. central african republic constitutional court has confirmed that president forced into a dead as election when the opposition says pre-election violence get away voters those are your headlines inside stories next.
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last summer he escaped death after being poisoned now russian opposition figure alexina belli is detained on his return to moscow just how much of a challenge is no doubt president that of atoms and this is intolerance toward. a welcome to the program on kim vinnell international called the nation is growing over the arrest of russian opposition leader and exit of ali and he flew into
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moscow the valmy spent the past 5 months in germany after being poisoned and that attack he says was ordered by president vladimir putin both u.s. administrations the u.k. and the european union a calling for his immediate release germany has described of elmis arrest as in comprehensible while amnesty international accuses russia of waging a relentless campaign against him we'll bring in our panel of experts to discuss this further but 1st. it's a particular type of person to survive a probable state sanctioned poisoning and then return to the country you believe tried to kill you a country where you face imminent arrest. never gave the slightest suggestion he would do anything else following months of recuperation in germany alexei and wife yulia took their seats on a moscow bound plane from berlin magazine. but it's been a monopoly boy bring us a little vodka we're flying home says yulia quoting
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a much loved russian gangster movie it's a number on the whole mark that he and his family make light of the many dangers they face and what he faced was jail on arrival he violated his suspended sentence by leaving russia to receive life saving treatment he makes a choice is a brave man because he always pretended he's a brave man who. has no fear before that gorgeous he has no fear of welton he has no fear of law and order machine now it's the time to prove. prove these claims. and show the deeds that's why if he states brought. well he diminishes his claims being well number one and brave for position have the
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airport where he was due to land police detained members of his team and threw supporters out around his plane was then diverted to another moscow airport away from the crowds after landing he spoke to the journalists who traveled with him yeah absolutely not i am not afraid i feel ok we can free immigration i will post it and go home because i know to talk i am bright i need a criminal case against me have been forged scary stories that they have tried to scare me wave it is not only the truth by my side but also to courts but out passport control officer a good bye kiss with his wife police led me away the kremlin denies the f.s.b. had any role in last year's novacek poisoning that nearly kills the opposition leader but now it seems likely russia will jail no brownie for surviving it rory chalons al-jazeera russia has dismissed the widespread condemnation of wrist foreign minister sergei lavrov says western politicians are trying to distract
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people from their problems at home. we can see how they've jumped at the news about novelli returning to russia you can feel the joy in their carbon copy comments joy because nivelle nice case apparently helps western politicians think that they can now distract their citizens from the deepest crisis the liberal system has ever experienced develop these cases gain foreign political residence artificially and baselessly everything happening to me relating to his return and detention falls within the competence of the law. let's take a closer look now at how development became one of the kremlin's top political enemies the 44 year old anticorruption campaign that has long been the most prominent face of fall position of russia to president vladimir putin in 2008 novelli began blogging about alleged malpractise and corruption and some of the biggest state controlled companies including oil firms banks and ministries his mocking of the establishment loyal to putin game to millions of russian followers on social media in the 2011 parliamentary election of only urged his supporters to
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vote for any party except putin's united russia that he says is full of crooks and thieves putin's party ended up winning but with a much reduced majority the valleys also lead nationwide protests against the government but his bid to challenge putin at the ballot box failed when he was barred from running in the $28000.00 presidential polls due to embezzlement charges that only denies the accusation and says the case is pinned this it motivates. joining me now are our guests in moscow we have alexander solove if member of the board of open russia an opposition movement in london we have sam green the director of the russia institute at king's college london and back in moscow that amir something called political scientists at the russian academy of sciences one welcome to your wall thank you for joining us here on inside story i'd like to start with you mr green if i can develop he knew that this would likely happen that
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he would likely be arrested or detained on his return to russia so why has he returned what's the calculation here well i think the go to lucian is that 1st of all you know i think your report said that he was returning to the country that poisoned general i think that only would probably just say that it was the government that poisoned him and he claims as much right to the country as. as pugin those votes so he you know is a political activist he has no. become the leader of we go what remains the largest and most powerful independent political organization in russia and so the only way that that organization contests parliamentary elections that are coming up this year and continues to challenge the government is is if he is there this is on the cover what do you think the calculation is in detaining him do you think that the order came all the way from the kremlin. so no i don't think so
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actually i'm not partly agree with my esteemed colleague sam because 1st of all the case awful poisoning was never proved in that he germany. actually delivered. documentation but not medical cases medical medical indications that he was actually plays and sold it the way we might call it to a large poisoning secondly i think i am some is right that. natalee is not was not going to stay as and then the gray in the us johnny fall good because. he's more politician that he's a political leader in russia in his native country than just staying and then a gray and just a man in. the hideaway somewhere in europe i can see such a smiling there mr salahi of can i bring you and what's your take on all of that do you think that's a rest or detaining order came all the way from the kremlin well absolutely sure
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that everything which is going on in russia considering politics and all that stuff is being under the kremlin's direct control of course probably criminal does not control all the details of the process but the general well older 'd of course comes from there most of the old as well my come even from putin personally because it seems that he's extremely afraid of he's totally deprived from reality sitting in his bunker and without even living it well just a couple of trucks or probably so. i know how that may sound but from the other hand. as long as it's far as we see our maps will be sure that that was poisoning and that those poisoning started from the very beginning. that putin's era from the very beginning of the 2000 and they all happened just before the
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flight or during the flight just because it's very convenient for the season to poison a person just before the flight because it's very difficult to to provide the treatment on the flight there are there is nothing necessary in the boat and so that poison takes its time just to to kill a person and it looks like just someone felt sick and very very suspicious death but still no no proof that cetera and it used to happen for like 20 years and now we see that this is not even the 1st time i didn't get them was i was poisoned twice but they're going to do it was poison and thankfully they survived but how many people did not so of course i'm absolutely sure this super sophisticated chemical weapon is being used by the direct order of the travel interesting me actually in the valley himself put out a video which has been viewed more than 22000000 times which i think we have we
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have that video and in a tape makes a phone call to one of the f.s.b. agents that he says. that proves that the you know basically that he's admitting to playing some part in his poisoning what do you think mr green all of this has done to nivelle made to his popularity to the opposition. well i think that's what we're about to find out certainly it has not put him off the fight for it is probably galvanized his. dedication to to continue this process of resistance in russia and it has certainly i think sharpened the attention of people around him right about the state sort i think there was a lot a long time when people felt that you know the kremlin was was going to tolerate him to a certain degree and we've seen the kremlin become increasingly nervous about its ability to manage politics through you know to nuance and to a nicety and it has again sharpened its own in its own it right the question
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is really whether that matters to very many russian people right so we did see i don't know the full numbers but hundreds perhaps thousands of people show up yesterday who airport they did divert the ball his plane apparently has as a result of that and so not only is is i think both giving. the government a chance to show its true stripes in the way that it is treating him and that the griot of anxiety with which they're treating this case but they're also giving he's giving the population and his supporters an opportunity to decide right does it matter to them what happens to to him and we're going to have to wait and see mrs thought make of what do you think do you think person is nervous of nivelle me of the strengthening of opposing voices. it could do so because probably on the coming out in a long winter elections and on the more. space for
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president putin to. have. these so-called ziering all the constitution and the next presidential told him i'd be him i'd be afraid but i think that that isn't the case because look and i'm just want to argue with salman for russia just awful this is the. mets are off the. top the law and i would like to return to to remind that 2 criminal cases steal hang on. mr natale and this is according to russian law the sickroom in all cases should be should be should be somehow alone and so he might have a good chance a bad chance would like. you would like to do to here that to be
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brought to. a criminal court and sentenced to prison we might have a to cases that he says that yes i think a motivated i want to bring you back in mr soviet of you are member of the opposition is there a trend of clamping down on dissent a you worried for your are in safety. well of course doing opposition politics in russia is dangerous thing because doing opposition politics in any of the rich aren't countries that are a dangerous thing sometimes it depends on the authorities but our authorities has proven to be quite cruel and quite capable of. eliminating their rivals and their critics so many everyone are a little bit afraid everyone are anxious this is normal nobody wants to go to jail nobody wants to be killed but so we just cannot leave it like that because i
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mean we see that the authorities are leading our country to it is us. and this disaster will affect every ordinary people those who are now in power it wouldn't affect them they have all their assets in europe in the united states because they adore in the reality they adore and love europeans countries and the united states they have their property their have their houses their families their children they have even their lovers there so they will move but we going to have to solve all those problems and that's why i totally agree with his statement that this is our country and i'm going to go back to my motherland and i'm not going to stand this when those peace and troops and lists kleptocrats are saying they must leave no they must leave we must so we have a total right to stick to leaving our country and to take care of our own country
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because they don't care they they really care only of themselves they're so please don't mix the interests of prudence kleptocrat regime and the russian interests because russian authorities are not being driven by national interests at all i want to bring at you back in mississauga mcauliffe do you think there is a trend of clamping down on dissent in russia and do you think that will impact the duma election. yes i think so that most probably 1st of all i would like to say that we actually witnessing now the. continuation although mr not only sa got 2.0 and that said and it could be so i know it's a killer speaking that the. so-called russian opposition is just in in a week in the weak position right now and mr not only probably ultimate goal is to fall taking decisions or its own sort of russia to be
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elida again we'll see the supposition movement and we we might see in the in the coming weeks what what will be the outcome of that and the secondly i would like to ask my esteemed colleague alexander the question why do you think why in this to president putin didn't. stop the volley from escaping from immigrating to germany for treatment and didn't actually a russkie him all just detain him a right after these as you put it the sole call to a legit poisoning of him back in russia go ahead alexandra de do you have a response to that. sure towsley solution or that that was in their interests to get rid of another opposition figure of the most prominent one that's always
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a good chance to make somebody leave the country so they suppose and doesn't pose any threats within the country and it's been done constantly with a lot of different opposition figures so the threats are working some of them are leaving the country some of them are already has already left and for now they are living full several years out of the country because of the criminal cases initiated against them because not everyone are ready to spend their lives in jail and of all he was not put into jail immediately in russia because they probably didn't want to him to become a hero but now they see this that all the threats they've made while he's been in berlin are useless and he's and he's bike and now the situation seems to be. not under their control they don't like it and probably they will try to make something like put him into prison for
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a short period of time and see what's going to happen next and if there is no reaction from people is going to become a if the population will know will show no reaction he will probably stay in a jail for for a pretty long period of time but anyway all the actions that are being taken by the authorities are making him a big hero and that sounds ridiculous from ridiculous the actions of the authorities that are reading this because they are so much afraid of any alternative use really even if the alternative view is wrong there anyway a really if great of this alternative this is the nightmare word for the regime with agreeing do you agree with that the benefit cation of the valley just adds to his call for. oh no we'll look at and i think the come has an advantage right it controls pretty much all the television most of the media in the country and all of the political parties that are allowed to actually compete in parliamentary elections and so. it has the ability to paint the ball in the
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way that it wants to but it does seem to be doing things that then have to be explained right so the saga that we saw yesterday in terms of you know turning on his airplane around in the air and and then today you know having a court hearing you know right in the police station where he's been detained with about a minute's notice from his lawyer right does not project confidence right now and it does suggest that there is a degree of nervousness in in the kremlin a reality is that autocratic regimes don't really tend to fall because they are you know brought down by a challenger from the outside they fall because people begin to believe that the power of the autocrat is no longer inevitable right and then that power will shift very rapidly to to whatever leader is is available rights are really that they come and it needs to be very careful about how it projects both power and weakness. i
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want to talk about the international reaction as we said. in the u.s. and the u.k. the european union all calling for the bell these immediate release germany describing these arrests as in comprehensible. i want to ask mrs on the call of how do you think of all these arrests will impact detention rather will impact russia's relations with the rest of the world. i think they're there they're answers directly actually because because i'll face it happening right now. we could expect to kill a speaking war. address reactions to these deeds and we can we can expect that more sanctions and russia is still suffering from sanctions already and was sanctioned sic could be imposed and that's one thing and another thing is that the relationship between russian federation and
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unfortunately and the major western countries like the us like john many u.k. could be spoiled to the point of 0 because because so that is. ultimately opposite positions on the not only case in russia and the in the western countries but just to add to that i would like to say that. legally speaking this is an intel no a russian case according to the russian law but as international reaction we see that russia could get away without much trouble after these sanctions where an imposed on russia after the joining with crimea so who knows and that will should see what will be in the near future if more iraqi if more sanctions will be in boston russia i think the future will show what will
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be the relationship between say president elect biden and the stray ssion. coming to power in 2 days and what will be the license trip between russia and major western european countries you talk about these charges being the domain of of russia itself and of the russian judicial system. yes the question is do people have faith in the russian judicial system to come back to you missed to some of the of do you think that the russian people have the appetite to really challenge the system to make noise to put themselves in the way of danger to see change. well you know it's always quite hard to predict that. we should take into consideration of course the whole state machine of propaganda that works. on one thing on making people a learned helplessness and it's doing great well especially considering the budgets
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so people are well a lot of people know everything. but the weirdest thing that smallest of them are not ready to go on the streets yet though sometimes. well big protests happen in moscow for instance like 100000 people may appear in the streets but that doesn't lead to well that does lead to something but not to the not to the conditions that people expected so i do not know how people going to react right now moreover it's it's even more important that it's minus 20 right now in moscow so it's quite difficult to protest in the street so i do not know how people are going to react and the only thing i know is that they are really people are frustrated people are like people understand everything about the nature of this directed system but they keep sitting home and more mering and complaining
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that no matter how hard we try we we're not going to change anything because nothing depends on us so are. very grateful to people like alex say who continue their struggle because they show on their own example that still something is possible and know we cannot just sit up and wait while thinks change on their own we must do something and i hope people will somehow react there's so much more we could talk about unfortunately for time we will have to leave it there thank you to all of our guests alexander sylvia of sam greene and venomous all the calls and thank you for wanting you can see the program again any time by visiting our website just now dot com and author of the discussion go to our facebook page. facebook dot com a.j. inside story it also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a.j. inside story from a whole team here of a. lot
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