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as india widens the numbers of those eligible for car the 19 vaccines waste workers are asking to be among them elizabeth warren an al-jazeera new daddy. religious sites in jerusalem have partially reopened christians begin easter celebrations. in. a small crowd was allowed to watch a procession that the church of the holy. one of the holiest sites for worship is in pilgrims last year only a group of priests was measured for the good friday ritual of the 2nd easter with mostly predominantly christian countries under coronavirus restrictions. this is al jazeera and these other top stories at least 54 people have died after a train carrying around 490 people he railed in eastern taiwan came off the tracks
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inside a tunnel just north of the city of wiley and adrian brown has the latest from hong kong. local media is also reporting that all those people who had been trapped have now been reached in other words there are no 4 people trapped inside those 4 carriages inside the tunnel the accident we know happened just after 9 am local time so just over what 9 hours ago and it happened in a tunnel in one of the most mountainous areas of taiwan and throughout the day there's been a frantic rescue operation going on inside that tunnel. there be media reports of a possible mass killing reportedly carried out in ethiopia's north and to grave you change its reportedly happened in the town of bet a day in early march with access and internet connections severely limited to gray it's difficult to independently verify these accounts. this year has been inaugurating its new president the 1st democratic and peaceful transfer of power.
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as addressing crowds in the capital on wednesday security forces stopped what they called an attempted coup by soldiers who carried out an attack on the presidential palace and bangladesh 3 people have been killed by a fire abraham the refugee camp broke out in a makeshift market in the early hours of friday morning and has now been brought under control it happened less than 2 weeks after a huge fire nearby which destroyed thousands of tents and killed at least 15 people . 3 suspected rebels have been killed in a gunfight in indian administered kashmir indian security forces raided a village there being confrontations between residents and security forces after they destroyed a house during the operation. those headlines more news for you here on al-jazeera right off the inside story which is coming up next i'll see you next time of life now.
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italy has expelled 2 russian officials after accusations of. it's the latest in a string of recent spying allegations against moscow so how will italy and other european nations deal with this twice this this is inside story. hello welcome to the program. the italian government has expelled 2 russian officials it follows police geishas that any tahlia naval officer was caught
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selling classified documents to a russian owned voice in a row the accusations are the latest in a number of recent charges of espionage against russia the stolen documents reportedly include top secret information from nato and the italian ministry moscow says it's unaware of the circumstances of the case but it could take possible steps the italian foreign minister a house summoned russia's ambassador in protest against way cause a grave. ojibwa literature says that what happened is unacceptable and there will be consequences there is no doubt about it because it's unacceptable that someone comes here to pay our navy officers one of our navy officers to get nato information it is not just our security at presque but that of the entire nato alliance we cannot accept this i must also say though that with the international actors we have to deal with we must always have a channel of communication that allows us not to escalate nobody wants it russia
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says the incident should not affect its good relations with italy kremlin spokesman bitterroot pascoe sad we have no information on the reasons and circumstances of this detention 1st of all but in any case we hope that will keep the relations between russia and italy a positive and constructive british foreign secretary dominic robb has expressed support for italy saying in a tweet the case stands in solidarity with italians is actions today exposing and taking actions against washers mulayam and this to be activity that is designed to undermine our nato ally let's have a look at some of the most recent spying accusations against moscow bulgaria expelled 2 russian diplomats last month after breaking up aspiring that included
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bulgarian defense ministry officials a german man is facing charges after police accused him of passing the floor plans of the german parliament to russian military intelligence in february also in the same month a swedish man was arrested for selling sensitive very cold designs or russian diplomat in december a dutch intelligence agency said it uncovered 2 russian diplomats who were targeting the nation's science and technology sector. let's bring in gas in rome sabina castilla franco is a show on a list in moscow pavel felgenhauer a defense and military analyst also rome marco deledio senior analyst and head of the russia and balkans desk of a center for international studies while
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a come to the program sabean of this is not the 1st case of espionage targeting a western country by bhatia probably won't be the last but what is particular about this case in italy. is if i heard your question right is how the italians are reacting to this certainly no one was pleased with finding out in this country that an italian navy officer was handing over classified documents to a russian official this certainly doesn't please anybody particularly because those documents obviously hold information that italy does not want to be releasing to other countries particularly outside of the european union and the nato alliance having said this it's really has a very strong relationship with russia it is possibly the country in europe that is could assist and has woomera relations with
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russia. in the european union or amongst european union countries pavel the russian spies were i mean from the statement from the from the italian foreign ministry and the police were looking for crucial military information about the italian military and nature are you are we likely to see some profound damage to the italian russian relations here. well i don't think that's going to be any lasting damage that's going to be most likely russian tit for tat expulsion. diplomats from moscow and basically that's going to be most likely the end of the story both rome and moscow don't and they expressed that opinion that they don't want to really spoiler away sions because of this unfortunate event so no lasting things everyone understands that this is business as usual that's how
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the system gathering information were and it's not actually could that really clear that be information passed was really a sense that there was a report that the kalyan name officer was paid 5000 euro in cash and that's not really a lot of money in terms of kind. of where if it was really a sense of if it would be much more and it would be handled not by the russian diplomat i have my especially designate that case officer mark. i mean the italians should be offended in a way or another because the intelligence agency was. following the case of this officer this is someone who has been bribed something like 5000 euros for military information about the italian military what's the general sentiment in italy about
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this particular case. the general sentiment is that it does ease to do sion and w. and bubbly will be known feels traced by well that bend but not for $5000.00 euro some money. you know immediately there is a very polarized binion on russia you have a strong on durata shop function and an also strong brusha faction so what that meant was a huge argument you follow or of our shop fashion and as stronger argument against fracture. generally the idea of the public opinion and easy to show is to try to build warm and strong
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relation between rope and moscow also because there are very strong economy dice and the 1st are the contracts on energy and gossip block i bought after what happened with the spy case and he doesn't government send a clear politi gulp message to law school and the message he says that these kind of action won't be tolerated anymore right sabina as marco is saying particular about this whole divide in italy. we've seen that same pattern in other places where similar incidents took place like in bulgaria for example and the sentiment was divided those who were saying this is an issue of national sovereignty and the russians should be punished the others were saying no because we have affinities and we have strong historical ties with the russians do you think that russia is trying to tap on that the tickler divide that you see across
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the european continent for leveraging for more let political leverage. you know i think that russia needs to keep a decent relationship with the european union in particular at the moment you know italy has been helping russia with the possible sale of its pup make a vaccine vaccine in the european union so i think similar to what magical said yes there is a divide amongst the people who are for and against russia but generally the relations with it's really between israeli and russia are good and a russia will not try to change that does not want to push for a more complicated relation because russia needs italy if he is one as i
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said before one of the strongest e.u. allies that it has. pavol this whole thing is really extraordinary the says that you might think the whole weist east espionage activities were over by the by the end of the cold war which doesn't seem to be the case when you look away as has been happening over the last few years in europe russia using sometimes absolutely sophisticated to be a sometimes very pretty primitive means to try to get more information from europe what is russia's trying to establish here. what you should really understand which westerners often don't and that russia has 2 main intelligence services it's merchant urges former g.r.u. and former 1st director of k.g.b. now now and has also heritage yes. and so that's one is political the other is
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military and the political as yet are well taken into consideration political different things and could make me think about the last important in russian foreign policy the military intelligence and we're talking right now most cases military intelligence and here not the way it wasn't delegates they do not they do not think and don't even have no ideas about the political situation they know the political situation is bad make no including iterate. an enemy and when he should gather all the information we can get so that they don't happily political agenda run they're not running a political agenda they're getting information about their enemy well that does not seem to be the perception that we have in europe or let me go to mark america i mean many european countries data in particular have been saying repeatedly in the
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past that the g.r.u. which is the main intelligence on of the russian military is using those spying activities to undermine democracy by influencing elections in the western world. yes there is high level of awareness of what the jury you is doing to europe. nato on a lease cold i agree war for our non lead in our war for so it's a new way to conduct in the love relationship between russia and the rest of the warp in particularly europe indies and on mix all of us cyber activities spot you're not d.v.d.'s or use of media that indonesia's not media that intelligence and they think that for you we're open. the most
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important they jerk. along we've disses by acting spies activities made by russia east. psychological and information not war for a camp to even through ends not only the. poor legal aspect of life and these you do sure but the i.e. yes of the public go beyond this is enough to change the better sept of europeans he sent towards sen they mean those shit like migration like in degrees like relational we but nato u.s. and russia so this is a very strong trend to because eat run in the long they're not in the short or there is a lot groove that these kind of octave eady e's easy able to
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even friends election right but drop greece is that you can influence gentle opinion in the long beard samina you don't think the vase will have far reaching consequences consequences of the. relations between italy and russia however when you look of the brushes of ramping up in europe germany greece but beriah the netherlands isn't this something that could undermine any potential block ashmont between the europeans and the russians i think yes the europeans yes i think that italy is not going to be the main problem i mean i certainly think that these are methods that the russians use i think as we mentioned before that 5000 euros for information is a very small amount and so it appears that the documents that were provided had to do with military telecommunications now i'd like to make it very clear that in
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italy this is a rare occurrence we haven't seen cases of this kind of espionage with russia since the cold war i'd say certainly this is not going to as i said affect relations with italy but again i'd like to repeat i think that yes this is a methodology that the russians are using not only. in italy obviously but in other european countries that we have seen this happen and it could certainly undermine their relationship between russia and the european union in the future even possibly in the short term pavol in certain cases particularly the one in bulgaria and one in portugal there were. i mean prosecutors were saying that this was a clear evidence by the jury are you to try to get more intelligence from
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nato. why this fixation with the nato itself is it widely seen still seen as an existential threat for the russians and this explains why the cutting of those activities oh of course it's a that's the main enemy of the russian general staff and the g 8 g.r.u. it's now simply called g u it is the federal part of the russian generals and they are given orders find their superiors to gather information on the enemy for which we maybe are going to have a war in the coming several years maybe not of course the whole ploy and field officers the working in the west under diplomatic cover they are ordered to recruit assets and more assets you recruit the better these assets are the better for you you're given marks like. i can school. here in the headquarters of
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moscow by analysts how important are your recruits are your assets if you don't recruit good assets you're not if you do you get medals you get promotion if you don't you don't of course assets are also paid money in cash and you can always skim some money off the payment to the asset so it's very important to hold it down and be working on recruiting and that's what the russian military intelligence on doing baby are recruiting of course they do not see it occur information ok because if i say this italian say began providing political information from inside so you be valiant government or something that's bad because they'll have to spend shared asset with the former k.g.b. the u.s. yeah ok and that you know intelligence service wants to do even inside one state
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maka so the military strike could be specifically military military intelligence gathers military information right now. marco i mean we're seeing some reactions condemning the what happened in it's only showing solidarity with the italian government but our way are we anywhere near 2018 when many european countries along with nato took those punitive actions against russia following the. skip poll oppose an attack in the u.k. . if we if we take out one memory back to the script of kazan we will find a very different and then i'll wish on the european response on the screen ballboy something. to many leaders the arms were of the u.k. government and of the european government was not strong enough because no one tried to sanction their iall. people are of russian economic
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power you wrote it is the gas market and the power of the oligarchs in your longdon and not their capital in europe on the other side the other part of european as usual said that the response was fair enough to day we are at the grass wrote because we need as europe to send a strong message to moscow but on the other side we cannot ignore russia and its power energy market and its role it may be the ca in which we need to deal with russia just like libya and syria ok. sabina many western officials have been repeatedly saying over the past few years that the russian a spinner's activities are well funded aggressive and politically protect by the
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top officials of the russian. government if you take it from what happened over the last few years in all those european countries that were targeted how do you see the potential for any confrontation between the russians and the europeans well i think it is a confrontation and as we've been saying i think it is going to be an issue as america said you know the european union cannot ignore russia but it also will not tolerate you know this continuing espionage in its member countries this is not going to be acceptable for the european union. we have a situation where russia is not exactly being seen positively by the european union but it is not being seen positively also across the atlantic in the united states i mean it was just recently that biden you know called putin. a killer
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and so at the moment russia. must do everything it can to maintain decent relationships with the european union countries that it can enter certainly not escalate and cause more confrontation cover what we're getting for the time being is a russian reaction which is brushing aside all those accusations saying that they were blown out of proportion. however in europe the feeling is that the a buy shows were very smart in tapping into the old networks of spies know alls handlers and people who were sympathetic to the former soviet republic they are trigon vast network they're using that same network and this is what is creating now a huge problem in europe only moment and moscow the russian general stat believes
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that the west is already waging a hybrid war against russia trying to get rich new egypt in my eyes the present regime and that's rebind mcclaren put in the killer and that was part of this the us to try to do just my is ation process so west is already fighting us we are fighting back against the west it's rather kind of like during the cold war happening there and of course there's a belief and most likely is so that the west is also trying to recruit assets inside russia or russians when they travel abroad so it's a kind of war a war against all but this is the rules are still low for a west being held i mean this is kind of seen as business as usual recruiting an enemy asset in an enemy country that has some kind of access that's normal kind of
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procedure in some sick and weak you very very important asset being exploited in others not so it's seen as business as you know and yeah a market is going to be my last question to less than 30 seconds with the americans have been closely monitoring the switch situation in europe they have been very critical of some prosecutors particularly bug area widely seen as pro russians in the case of the spying activity is this something which is going to be conducive to a stronger american pressure to to isolate to further isolate russia in the near future. yes because he's one of the beeler of the word joe biden administration you braun is that he's a lack of our campaign and the 1st steps of this president showed that easy koranic so yes he's a guy from the cold war and the you will deal we russia as us used to
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