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ah ah, i am from the okay today on the stream we are going to be talking about via lympics from now through to september. we're going to see some of the best athletes and power athletes in the world. competing in the tokyo 2020 games, but there is a dock side to this massive sporting event. and that is where i'm taking you today . have a look at these pictures, protesters in tokyo, protesting about what is going on inside the stadium and will be going on for the next couple of weeks. a full, you know, of a growing anti olympics movement. i guess we'll take deeper into this movement and
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tell us so much more. hello and welcome to jewels a mirror and say taylor so great to have you have the st. jude, please introduce yourself. tell everybody who do well, i want you to hello my name. go ahead jose. my name is jules boy, off and i teach politics at pacific university in oregon and author of 4 books about the olympic games. most recently. no libyans inside the fight against capitalists, mega sports in los angeles, tokyo and beyond. get to have you. hello, welcome to the stream. introduce yourself to global audience. my name's aaron davis . i'm a assistant professor of history and african american studies at penn state. is that the intersection of race, gender, sports, and politics? i'm missing my 1st book. co can't even metal the lives in labours of black women athletes in the jim krauss, them also the co host of the feminist sports podcast. burn it all down. so great to have you and i taylor,
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welcome to the stream. introduce yourself to our us. hi there, my name is taylor carr, and i'm an activist in an organizer with no one picks l a and los angeles. all right, great. to have a guess. i just wanted to something just to have a look at all 3 of you and see where you stand as far as the limpets is concerned. all right, so let me just ask taylor at a mirror of if you could make this telco olympics, the very last one, would you taylor in a heartbeat. oh, i didn't even have to say this in a hobby and mirror if you could make tokyo 2020 the very last a little bit games. would you? absolutely, as we currently understand it to be the olympics. but i'm more for what can we put in its place? interesting, jose if, if you could make this olympic the current summer olympics, the very last one of its kind. would you do that?
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just like dr. davis, if you have the olympics as they are now, they need to go, no question about it. all right, so let me ask you audience. if you're watching on youtube, you can be part of this, show, rudy. i think the olympic should be abolished a comment section is right there. you can be part of today's discussion. please join us. i mean we're, i am looking on your twitter feed and you are posting about the lympics. oh, you can page because i'm also posting about the pics to what's going on here. yeah, no, i'm not conflicted, because for me i always try to center the voices of people, athletes, activists, people on the ground. and the way i hold space for that is to think about how athletes are navigating the institutions that was problem with and those institutions of the theme institutions that were critiquing in terms of displacement. and some of these other claimed is that the one big spring in,
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so for me, if you're keeping, if you're lighting a fire under the fee of the i o, c or national federations, these big governing body is the institutions that are absolutely promoting these inequities. then you do that in multiple ways and for me that connection is through both ashley activism, protest, navigating these structures as well as why is being done outside and around and to mobilize against the games. and they think that there's a way that we even economize it when athletes themselves tend to spectrum as well. and i'm all for math if anybody knows me knows and for math in kind of chaos. but i think that sometimes you've got to get a little didn't murky to actually deal with some of these hard questions. there was a sign i saw in the protest in tokyo believe it was july. the 21st jewels and lympics kill the poor. can you make a connection between that fine and the reality of what happens to house countries
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and the places where the lympics are being held to make that fine sound credible? sure, well 1st of all, the sign is credible. the olympics tend to bring out the very best in olympic athletes and at the same time, the very worst in the whole city. and one of the ways that it brings out the worst is the way that the city treats the poor residents of that city as they get ready for the olympic games. and in city after olympic city. the poor folks of the town are marginalized, they're often forcibly evicted from where they live. i've seen it with my own 2 eyes as a researcher in both london around the london, 2012 games. i also lived in rio de janeiro in 20152016 where i worked with for valid communities that were getting forcibly evicted for the game. so there's true to that sign, no question. i'm just looking here also at the headline homeless people told they have no place in tokyo and picks that, that from july, the 22nd the,
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the most latest iteration of what happens to people who are on house. they don't have any way to go. so pay, let me just bring you in here from ally because you are being an actress and i lay against the upcoming olympic games as the push back. i want to hear that from you, but 1st i'm going to talk about l a and also atlanta. the experiences from those 2 cities here are commenters and at the end of it, please pick up one of the main reasons, the advocates and activists in los angeles, oppose the olympics, is because of the impact that has on the on house community. we have 60000 and house in los angeles, and the last time the olympics came in, the city use that as a reason to displace to criminalize and to remove people from the street. in preparation for the 96 olympics, nearly 9000 atlanteans were taken off the streets and placed in the atlanta city
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detention center. we know that this was to make atlanta look like it didn't have a homelessness problem. the olympics should be investing, creating long term resources and opportunities for growth inside a post communities, not making existing problems worse. yeah, well unfortunately, to your earlier point about the fine and they went to killing the poor as a activist myself in the on house work that's very necessary here in los angeles, that's kind of hard to no one picks because we started realizing my partner and i but at the apex of all this work is the looming 2028 limbic games. already we see that a lot of real estate speculation and an a ramp up of enforcement of homelessness and stuff like that around the city is being used with the olympics as a bit of a cover. even just this week, city council passed the new ordinance that basically criminalizes existing and
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public space in any forms with additional copy that can be voted on and made even more severe by certain counsel persons in certain spaces in their own district. and unfortunately, this is just the beginning. i myself, i live in echo park. and this year in april we saw a very violent displacement of a community of about 200 people that were staying in the park. they had established this community with coded, there were not any evictions or even like that. and then all of a sudden you know, dozens of l. a. p d officers came in in the middle, the night pulled, amenities, communities, but a big fence and have given them very little place to go, especially not really any permanent place. so yeah, unfortunately it's very present and we're already seeing it happening here in los angeles for the 2028 games and to connect it to atlanta. you know, it's been decades since the atlanta games and we can see the scars on this community still. and the way that those promises me, i never really came to bear much fruit,
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me go to youtube gas and put some of the thoughts from you to comment his right to you jose, you take this one says it's a huge waste of money and time jewels from that one, well, there is no question that the olympics have become a massive boon dongle. it, we've seen in a lympics after olympics, where bitters say it's only gonna cost x amount of dollars. but when the game's actually roll around, it's why, and it's many times that tokyo is a prime example, $7300000000.00. it was supposed to cost, and now it costs well, probably around $30.00 philly. what would it be fed at? they also had to deal with a global pandemic. and of course, but i know 5, but i take your point. no, but actually yes, that's a great point. but it was already about 20 a 1000000000 according to a japanese audit before the pandemic, lacquered on another few bill. so that. alright,
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let me put this one to you. this is from evening. it's fine, haven't lympics for the pick committee should or must reduce the expenses about to build new stadiums, could that so problems? i mean that would just be it that would absolutely just be a bandaid. and if it's a good gesture, but it's not like part of the infrastructure, we're talking about here just to give a little bit of historical context. there was a report that came out from housing equity group in switzerland that estimated that from the 88 games and saw to the 2008 games and losing roughly 2000000 people were displeased. and that's just coming the summer olympics. that is a massive number. it's also about the militarization is also about the way that profit is centered over health of communities of athlete of you know, everybody in the infrastructure of these institutions. and so on one hand, yes, you have these math stadiums, and that's
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a huge problem. you saw this like you said in the world cup, of course, with like soccer students built in places that in min, now it's where people can ever get to again. but you also have this about housing, you have this in terms of what is left after the games go, especially in terms of policing and those resources that don't just leave the community. and those are the, all the things that make that so harmful. and i just want to add a point here about why the olympic, why this seems like such a hard question. there's a thing called sport washing a sports as seductive. it draws a thin, you talked about how we're enjoying the olympics because these package narrative and when you talk about city saying, hey, we want to host the games, right? they're relying on this like fans there around the romanticism of the olympics to drum up lay support to bring this in in line their own pocket. and that's a lot of the reason sports itself that we're having this seeming tension between
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something people enjoy in something that so destructive tele, when we have of the new norms, it's a game changer. this is from the international impact committee. it feels like they are aware they are, they are not immune to the criticism. they know they are being criticized. they have had scandal off the scandal of the scandal. how look here that this is what they are saying. the complexity, the risk, the waste, the cost delivering the limpid games. it's going to be much more value. there's going to be flexibility that we partnership efficiency, sustainability. that's the new norms. it's against change. the i see a very punny here. alright, but what i want to do here is to take you tailor to the map of brisbin who was really pump top about how the gains when they, when they come to prison, they're going to be different. they're going to be cheaper and brisbin can handle it. i have listened to the for it's been is a place that has been for
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a lot. it's been through natural disasters in floods, but it's always had that determined sphere ambition. and today it is brisbin time to sean. this is a new era for brisbin, but also a new era for the olympic movement as well. we are so excited with this new model, the lower cost game thought, supervising the benefit is going to be so great for our city, our region, and outside taylor that may look sincere. i'm sure he believes he sincere. unfortunately, i fear that that determines spirit that he's talking about is probably more in line with the real estate interest in bis brisbin. actually considering that this bid process was basically closed bid process when the game to reward it to paris and to los angeles 420-2448 respectively. even though there weren't really a lot of other competitors, there were many other cities that were willing to bring this olympic games incident environment and the awarding of these games in 2032 is setting
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a new precedent for how far out these games are being awarded. and how few people are involved in these bids, especially in the community. in fact, with our analysis in no one picks, we feel like in order for a bid to even get to olympic consideration at this point, there has to be quite a bit of backdoor wheeling and dealing with all sorts of different developers and people that kind of want to car up these communities in the name of real estate and other really disgustingly money to interest. that's why when we say we're no olympics and not like reform olympics, again, these terminal picks have to be abolished as they are. all right, let me bring in doctor session mark this comment is see you jose. when we're looking at reform dot fashion model is skeptical that that even could be possible for the lympics. if she is, is long as there are billions of dollars to be made. it's very serious and it's going to be realistic
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might be one of the few tools that could eventually on a question then becomes a we're our priority form and our individual viewers and individual people ready to make those doing sacrifices in order to bring about change really interesting point there, it actually relates to the new norms because part of the problem is that the international impact committee does a lot of fancy graphics and a lot of big statements from behind press conference, podium. but the reality doesn't really change that much. they have the do norms, they have the olympic agenda 2020. but the changes that they actually make tend to benefit the international impact committee and don't address the issues that we've been talking about today. so the militarization of public space, the poor treatment of the on how's the forced gentrification displacement of people
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that live in the city that won't be able to ever afford a ticket to the olympics the over spending the green washing. and so i think that possibly a consumer boycott could have some kind of effect. but wow, it's really difficult to marshall that kind of support for a consumer boycott, especially when you think about it this way, that the olympians are essentially workers, their worker athletes within an unjust system. and so to abandon the olympics and not to support those athletes is actually to kind of leave them in the cold in a particular way. just one final quick point on this that i think it's important context is that important study came out from ryerson university that compared the revenues that athletes from places like the national basketball association, the english premier league of soccer football, the national hockey league make compared to olympians in those other leagues, the athletes got between 45 and 60 percent of the revenues olympians. they got 4 point one percent. and so there's a lot of justice to be done for these athletes. and i'm not sure exactly. just boycotting is going to help them in any kind of way. i mean,
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i am worried that we are leaving the athletes out of this conversation. they're busy right now over there. no one's got time to be on the stream right now. but the entire movement for a bushing, the games as we know them where to the athletes come into that conversation though they have to be central to it. it's fairly big games. well, i think jules are right on by talking about labor right. to be able to understand athletic labor as labor, means that we can have a conversation, or we'll talk about workers and guitar, who are building world cup stadiums for a while. publish shouldn't be there, we can talk about the labor of athletes within the system, then we can connect it instead of talking in silence. i mean, sometimes that will come to a point where it feels like you're working in opposite ways. but i think that one of the things that we know is many athletes. i've talked to many athletes even leading up to these games who wanted to talk about covered concerns and not just
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about their health and safety. but hearing activists on the ground, i talked to many athletes after rio who said, hey, we saw with our own eyes this, this destruction already. and that's putting them in a position now where they're saying who, what do we do from our labored and how can these veneration and how might we collaborate and raise some of these issues. and i think that it's usually intersection or kind of collaboration that feels intuitively like it doesn't work. but i actually think there's a lot of fruitfulness in that intersection because athletes are absolutely some of the people who are pushing the ios, the most on a range of issues. and i'll see me all hands on deck with them for multiple angles . and i think that there's a lot of fruitfulness in the convergence of interest. certainly for many athletes, this remains a place that becomes very important, politically becomes very important, visibly it becomes financially stable for them. but as dr. boy mentioned that
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is not lucrative for very many people. and part of the concern that they're talking about with dial see is the way that it breaks them, exploits their labor. it leaves them for me, for a variety of reasons, very harmed in that harm is what we can center and build off of to talk about the larger harm as well. they're absolutely integral part of the conversation. i know, yes, i could just jump in there. yeah, cool. yeah, i think now is the exact moment to have those kind of conversations that dr. davis is pointing about with athletes. because for the tokyo 2020 olympics, all the participating athletes were essentially forced to sign a waiver that said in black and white letters, that if they die of corona virus or from heat exhaustion that they cannot hold olympic organizers liable. tokyo about athletes shared that wave with me. well in advance and was like, whoa, this thing is scary. you know,
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they've signed plenty of waivers over the course of their life. but that really jumped out to them that the international committee does not have their interests at heart. and there are so many athletes now that are in that position and they are organizing, there's a group called global athlete. there's a group called the athletics association of track athletes that are independent bodies that are actually organizing right now. so that's really exciting for athletes. i agree they need to have a bigger seat at the table. let's abolish the i o. c. and replace them with critical thinking athletes, and we could go a long ways and fixing this marriage laughing. i'm laughing taylor's off in the i was see that's the i was going to say that little bit like specter in gainesville, and a huge organization, an incredibly wealthy. that is a very old james bond reference. let me show you here on my laptop, because i guess we are seeing a lot of comments on youtube about the lympics. it's kind of a waste of money. let's have a look back. a half ends up and spend almost 15000000000 over it's can budget of
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1600000000 for the 2004 summer lympics. this is the rowing center for it. looks like now ish and show you one more in the pool. before this is side, it is really sad looking at this. i'm going to try one more idea and share it with you. and it comes from john, have a listen, have a look at so my idea been pushing this around for a number of years now as to how hub are permanent site. now the advantages would be you would have fix course. you wouldn't need urban renewal every 4 years and major cities often that involve displacement of population. we saw this in real, we saw this in atlanta, and we saw this in big jing for hundreds of thousands of people were displaced to provide the room for this. the stadiums which a number of dom continues to languish port olympics
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o at taylor lympics coming back to l. a. in 2028. if there was a permanent fight, would then be pro lympics. unfortunately, if the io c as they exist is involved in any capacity and i can't really endorse any sort of consistent john, a lot of people to point to athens, which, you know, was historically the home of the very original olympic games as a potential, excuse me, to know that, but you could see there's so much devastation there. they went over budget. and honestly, if the i o c was interested in building responsible sporting permanent infrastructure, they would have done so already. that's not really how the ios, the operates. and unfortunately, the olympic system is such an ongoing, gripped from city to city as they bounce around to the hosting sites. and it's integral that they come to these places. they sort of carve up real estate interest and stuff like that for outside interest. and they pull
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a lot of money out of the cities and again, like if they really wanted to exist somewhere permanently, they probably would have done it already because there's a good chance that would get the olympics to this much longer. so if you've traveled to so many olympic house cities, the idea of a permanent home for the olympics, is that just fantasy? unfortunately, it is in its again, because of the international olympic committee. just a few weeks back, i had the good fortune of debating. mano a mano with the longest serving member of the international olympic committee, a gentleman by the name of richard pound, and this very idea came up. it is circulating out there, and mr. pound just blew it off, had 0 interest in it whatsoever. the international committee believes it's spreading the gospel of olympics around the world and that locating the games in a single city would undermine that. so if you want to abolish the i o c 1st, which was kind of the original suggested that i made, that might get you on the path to perhaps putting them in one city. but like you said, it's not even clear athens would want them after the debacle. last time. some people
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have suggested allows on switzerland or the international. the committee is based. that might be a possibility, but still it's a long shot. it's interesting because we have rich a pound on the stream a couple of weeks ago and he was telling us how safe the olympics were going to be, particularly when we're talking about covered. so we remember him from, from that show. we also reach out to the i o c to be on this particular discussion about should we be abolishing rethinking the limpid games and understandably, they wanted nothing to do with this conversation. all right, taylor and i shouldn't really law and jules, thank you so much instagram and audience here, watching youtube. appreciate your questions and your thoughts. i'll see you next time. take everybody ah use
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