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to union on do a, mary love him and model that again the government is trying to suppress us. we will not be college and we will take our struggle forwards. while the government fights teachers on salary differences that have lasted for decades, students in over 10000 government schools like the one behind me, bear the brunt of the work stoppage. students like shawnee and minority will be hoping the strike will be over soon, so they can carry on with their studies. fernandez al jazeera colombo. ah, and let's take you through some of the headlines here now just are now taught. bonnie is trying to ease fears in afghanistan. 2 days officer took control of the capital, found group is declared an amnesty across the country and is urging women to join its government. after monday, scenes of desperation,
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the situation of campbell airport is stabilizing with military evacuation flights now, resuming hundreds of africans ran onto the tarmac to escape tommy bon rule. correspondent robin bryant has more from cobble on the st themselves of cobble this tuesday. this is day 2 of us halliburton rule, if you like. there has been an increased presence in the number of taliban on the streets. they are far more prominent. and also we do hear from the taliban that you know, they have instructed the taliban fighters that they should respect people's right. they should not go into people's homes without being invited. they do seem to be very conscious of the way they are perceived and telling that taliban people effectively to behave themselves. us president joe biden is defending his decision to pull our troops. he says an endless minute free deployment is no solution. he said, american troops should not be expected to fight when afghan forces are unwilling to
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do so themselves. survivors of a powerful earthquake in haiti and having to cope with a tropical storm. heavy rain lashed, make shift shelters in the southern city of lakaya. it's one of the worst areas. 1400 people have known to have died in saturdays quite thousands moore left homeless. many say they still waiting for a from the government for rise. new zealand is moving into us not logged down to 3 days after reporting its 1st local curve at 19 infection and 86 months. the case was detected in oakland. authorities are working to trace its origin is still not confirmed whether the latest case is the highly contagious delta variance those i a headlines. news continues here now to sierra off the inside story. and of course, there's always our website, if you want to stay up to date with an use out to 0 dot com. ah
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ah, ah, after nearly 20 years, the telephone is back in power enough chromosome. it says it won't that his mom exists in that's compatible with beside me. the millions of africa, how world powers reacting to this development. this is inside the ah, ah hello. welcome to the program on kim vanelle. i've gone the stone is now under the full control of the town on it took the armed group less than 10 days to sleep
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across every province and all the way to the presidential palace in the capital. cobble and see the ship says at once piece and an inclusive government that's compatible with islamic law. that many afghans are skeptical. observe as a worried after scenes of panic and desperation that campbell's international airport. on monday, thousands of afghans have been trying to leave the country since the fall of government today earlier. but all commercial flights have been canceled until further notice. the telephone tried to reassure people they have nothing to fear. in the us, the rapid fall of the afghan government appeared to come as a surprise for some white house officials. president joe biden is facing criticism for sticking to the plan initiated by his predecessor donald trump. to end the u. s . military mission. the factory of faith and the blinking insists, washington hasn't changed its goals and gone has done. let's take a step back. this is manifestly not saigon. the fact the matter is this. we went to afghanistan 20 years ago with one mission in mind, and that was the deal with the people who attacked us on 911. and that mission has
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been successful. we brought in loudon to justice a decade ago, al k to the group that attacked us has been vastly diminished. its capacity to attack us again from afghanistan has been right now. does not exist. and we're going to make sure that we keep in place in the region, the capacity, the forces necessary to see any re emergence of a terrorist threat and to be able to deal with it. so in terms of what we set out to do and f canister and we've done it, the taliban is holding talks to form what it calls an open, inclusive islamic government. it's on a clear what that will look like. but a spokesman says certain policies have already been agreed. the group says the rights of women will be respected. they'll have access to education and will be allowed to work. as long as they were the he job. people will be able to criticize whoever they want. media freedoms, we tolerated spot with limits on quote, character assassination. and the taliban says, criminal punishment will be decided by the courts will bring in august and just
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a moment. but 1st robert bride has this update from cobble, chaotic and tragic scenes continuing to unfold. cabals, international airport with thousands of people still desperate to get out of afghanistan. as the taliban secured its control of cobble. all of this began when it was realized that the government here was collapsing. there was a surge of people to ward the apple. they have completely taken over the terminal with many people spilling onto the runway clambering to get onto across that part. they're also clambering to get onto u. s. military aircraft, as they were attacked. seeing for take off there of also been some clips, tragically of people clinging to wings and then falling to their deaths as the planes were taking off that has been to some extent a certain amount of order has as attempted it being restored with the taliban.
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putting a cord and around the terminal to stop any more people getting in. and the us forces, of course, as they continue their evacuation of embassy personnel and other us citizens have their own cordon. but still, there are thousands of people between those 2 cordons. desperate to find any flights as the flight or commercial flights at least remain cancelled at this stage in cobble itself as things remain fairly calm and quiet on the streets. but there is a fairly so real feel about this 1st day of a taliban rule. here with many people, cobble residents coming out for the 1st time to see a taliban fighters now taking over a check points where once there were a soldiers and police who again seem to have disappeared, melted away as the taliban gets to grips with the governing of this country, but it is fairly surreal with many cobble residents, talking for the 1st time to the the taliban who arrived in the midst here in cobble
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as they get to grips of this new reality. many of them taking cell fees shaking hands as we move forward. into the unknown as the taliban takes control and we see what this new taliban rule will look like. rub mcbride a cobble for inside story. ah. okay, let's bring it out. guests in washington dc, we have chevy condom form, a deputy senior advisor to former president rough connie and former senior advisor to nato. enough cornerstone and doha. we have both alarms, i have a founding member of the color bomb and former taliban ambassador to pakistan in new find mont. we have peter galbraith, a former deputy united nation special envoy to afghanistan, a variable. welcome to you all. i thought to begin with you, mr. phillips, i, if you all one of the founding members of the taliban, tell me, is this going to be what we see now? is it going to be the telephone role of old or have things changed?
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has the group changed? i think and i know this is where a pastor, destiny i think we should do just there were called there are believing to come the notion or not understand me for because before that time fund was coming to happen yesterday. it's my support through the time i will not enter through carpenter and there the negation is coming to go with the taliban in discussing how to come to cobb and how to be for power in copper and how the type of bond wouldn't be coming in to the carbon, but unfortunately navient copper, some stuff, some responsible and security problem
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investigating the task natasha, the banker entered for the 2 the best you can get through this one. i'm sure some, some, some of the bunch particular sparks because there is no security for the problem. there is no spot the one for about. ok. i think that student there are both. there are some how can they are waiting going to work that time when they come to the house was supposed to come today, but i didn't know to try to. okay. i went to discussing. sure. sure. with the negation what, what would be the next position? and yeah, okay. we will talk
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a little bit later in the program about those talks in doha and what a future governance might look like for someone to come to, you should be come down. you were an advisor to the former president. i guess i should've gone. what's your take on developments? does the taliban have legitimacy? no, not at all. so far. you know, they do have the charge. they do control a lot of the country. but in order to have legitimacy, they be quiet, abodes, an endorsement or whatever you call it from the can people. so for that i think it's required that immediately paula, on have to call for the lawyer agenda. we actually presented this off. can people get together? and they decide about the future of this stuff or get the olive on how to clean repeatedly. and they're standing on this saying that they're about fighting for power. they're fighting for position. and now they have to cool because you know,
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they have all the 200 over on the line. they have for support in troops to meet up on the sun. so now they have to prove an action what they have gained. so if even think of this as often, people have to choose elect or vote for paula bon, that's absolutely fine. but for a ton of on the immediate thing is to have this legitimacy internally, then they can appeal to the, you know, reuben, or what does community for their, the commission. but 1st the 1st have to have 1st. 6 mission with the african peoples, and this is immediately needed because there's a back from a policy back about the me see, redo how, you know, institutions we do have a government that needs to be. meanwhile, we do have diplomatic, the presentation across the globe that they have to be accountable to somebody and have to be officially the present. the present thing i've done is, i think about, have more to do now than they were getting all of them. they have to do why they
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were fighting. ok, peter galbraith. if you accept as chef a condom, posit say that the telephone doesn't have the judy, missy, did ashcroft gone? have you to missy? did the afghan government have jim se? well, that is the question that and that i think the lack of legitimacy explains why the whole afghan government mit mit, a military collapsed. and in a matter of days, osh ross connie was in office as a result of 2 consecutive massively fraudulent elections. his predecessor harman cars, i one obtained a 2nd term as a result of a massively fraudulent election. and they the trouble was that when you come into office by having crop power, brokers put you in power. it makes you, it makes it almost impossible to deal with the problem in afghanistan, which was massive corruption. and you can see this in the,
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in the military where soldiers weren't paid, where they weren't resupplied, where afghans felt that the, the institutions didn't serve them. you know, when the roads were built to allow for subsistence farmers to, to be market farmers. and then a corrupt police would set up checkpoints and basically rob them. so this was the, the larger, larger problem was a lack of legitimacy by the previous government. and frankly, if soldiers weren't willing to defend it, even though they were vastly better armed than the, than the taliban. and more numerous. ok. and also alonzo, if i'd like to come back to you, we're talking about the way that the taliban has has taken over. often it was able to come through taking over many district seemingly without a fight. but human rights watch says they have also been instances that the taliban has executed soldiers and even civilians who have ties to the african government.
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what are you hearing? i, i didn't know really because my far away when i was giving you something were happy and something was happening from time to monday because you know, it was not, it was done before. and this was something where you had expected happening. but it's 150 times on they were trying to go high. did something wrong, enjoy the hillman rides, a bus initial on my way home. some, some protocol that are just the problem. okay. should be time down your family as
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in afghanistan, you're in washington, dc, but your family is there. how are they feeling? how are you feeling? ah, it depends. you know, i do feel very bad because, you know, i'm worried about this safety and security and they punish today or not what it might about security anyway because it wasn't secured before this. but there would you like for my mother who's teaching goes if she can continue teaching and from my sister who has studied stomach, she is she's graduate of college and i actually, i took her didn't paula on the gym to secret school and now gladly she's a graduate of college, can she continue on work and my brother who's a computer scientist, another brother with an engineer and another brother who is also the nation with the ability and knowledge. and beyond that, i think, you know, now our shop has gone. there's another, another placing, correct?
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but what about the woman cabinet members? woman the parliamentarians, politicians. you know, i know taliban has claimed that they have been changed and i'm looking and observing. i hope it's true and i have seen some signs of changes as well, but they do not have the capacity to replace the one that they've not have invested on woman. you know, to have the paula now to come in the face for what so called a. busy g, or whatever you call me. so i'm afraid if warm is not included if that notice from the political decision making body, especially from the especially from judicial system, then i think we will return back to before 2000 or 2001. so my suggestion and i think it's college for the way that the world and asking people to see how much they have changed, how much tolerance they have against minority against, you know,
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different miss if you groups these are the thing that we still have to observe and see the changes what the fall of on her brain so far? i'm the salon life. what are you hearing from the taliban? this is because this is a big question for a lot of women will they have access to education and girls? will they be allowed to work which i'm hearing. i know i hear from the parmesan that want me to walk to school and then to to start from a started to study and i'm sure to walk through what are the products to general job on the, on the algorithm before there would be not, again a new one, but i think the condition will change is about the right. so what i'll do was, you know, run this down there and to do and to do
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a study. it will not change you. ok, peter galbraith. we heard earlier from the secretary of state who said that american interests or objectives rather have been achieved, but this has also been described as a colossal humiliation for the us once you will take well, it's a catastrophic failure. the united states was in afghanistan for 20 years, twice as long as the soviet union. it spend around 2 trillion dollars more than $2300.00 dead. it spent hundreds of billions on the afghan military and police and a programs. and the thing collapsed in days. you know, when the, with my 1st trip to afghanistan was february 14th, 1989 with the major dean. and that was the day the soviets withdrew. the soviet installed regime lasted more than 2 years and even out last,
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at the soviet union itself. whereas this collapse took place before the american said, even finished their withdrawal. so, so it's really stunning. and i, i want to say a couple of points. first i feel for a sharpie. com does family and the families of my friends who are in cobble. this is a time, a terrible uncertainty. speaking to some today, you know, there are people going door to door, caliban or, or maybe just roberts, people dress like how abad. so it's terrifying. and, and the other point i want to make is there is the problem of, in addition to women and girls, which courses enormous. there's the problem of the how sorrow, who are she? and if you look at the map, that's the part of afghanistan, the tell, a bon have not taken or not yet taken. and when the tell on were last to power, there were massacres of she, it's something that began to look like genocide. so,
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and of course, the telephone or a cell teacher, hottie group who abuse she, it's as apostage. so what's going to happen to that community is 15 percent of afghanistan's population. this, this is something that ought to be a major concern to the international community. in addition to the concern about the future of women and girls. ok. yeah, you're making you make a very interesting point. i want to put that to you. both alarms i use, i mean, is that something that the international community should be concerned about? i both. 3 shaw, this is not the issue of concern. i'm not problem of the station to come in and i'm maker and dish. their problem is it is all there is nothing to last is going to buy
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a new and the fun down. not finishing the stand up issue like the song i'm really wanted to know about the fun was what it, what i will do. and i just found the time to find out what was expected not company from mission the process and. a then we'll not do the same mistake we've done before. hallmark we know the importance of our brand, new foundry, important for you understand the importance of the community on there are thinking about they are discussing away from the stand up top in between jobs are some
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family one and 2 to list all the going to come up in milton, did they are in problem showing? what was what the people from what, what are the people and the people there's my security and stability. i think i think this is one of the 4th and then the kids come in all possible to discuss the law. i hear you saying i hear what you're saying. i hear what you're saying. i want to put exactly that to come dumb because if we look forward and we need to look forward now, the former president, how mad cause i is forming a coordinating council to, to try and manage a peaceful transfer of power. how do you think that is going to go? what discussions will be being had behind closed doors? now that's absolutely legitimate. body has no legitimacy and no power and no commission because you know, the,
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the people and this correlation, the 3 individuals can market present up on the sun and off can people, they are also failed leaders. the, even they have never, ever, truly received the legitimacy endorsement from back people. so how they would be able to transfer a power that has no, you know, existence anymore, and how they would transfer the power to somebody who all the d n power. so i think that's beyond discussion and it's up to the african people to the african nation to decide how they will form their future governments and all of our facilities, as i mentioned before. that's, that's going to be the advantage. sure. but let's not, let's not allow individuals to think and nor to decide on behalf of us can people, we have experience a master failure of present gunny, mainly because he tried to,
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to prevent the nation, but he was through the preventative of the people. so it's all about has to be also careful if they want to get this legitimacy endorsement that have to return to the people and must not include and believe in individuals who have been part of what been, you know, committing and no one. that's why criminals and atrocities. so if again, these people are involved in the form of the government and power, i don't see any difference. and i don't see any reason for us to say, hey we, we are here with a change. ok, i, we're it, when they're in the end of the program. peter galbraith allowed to come back to you . do you foresee a future in which the us will form diplomatic relations with the telephone? well, personally, i think the united states should diplomatic recognition does not apply imply approval. it simply is a recognition of the fact that the taliban are in fact the government of
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afghanistan, they have seized power. that is a fact. and so the question is, will the united states be better able to accomplish its objectives in afghanistan? which include of making sure that the terrorist groups like al qaeda and isis do not re established themselves there. and being able to do something to promote the rights of women girls. busy to protect the has ours and the ethnic minority and to facilitate the exit from afghanistan. of, of the people who supported the international coalition. not just interpreters and people worked for the embassies to the military, but also people who worked for the united nations and for the n g. i hope many of them will be able to stay, but clearly many of them will want to go. and for all those reasons,
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it makes sense to have a continued diplomatic presence, not like what we had, maybe quite a small embassy, but to be engaged with the, the new government which we of course wish wasn't there. but in fact, is there, all right, we have to leave it there for time. so much more we could talk about it. thank you very much for joining us here on the program. should come down the salon and peter galbraith. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again anytime by visiting our website, algebra dot com, and have other discussion go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter handle as a inside story, or you can message me directly at kimbell for me and hope to hear me. so i news
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news, news, news, news. later news breaks. north of doing the best job you can. we've seen one water teen at wells far further with detail covering the government since the taliban is relying on human shields and losing people shops and home from around the world. the price tax, the toko games have officially top $15000000000.00 that already the most expensive summit games ever stage. madagascar, a breathtaking tropical paradise where its former protectors are now wanting to very we follow their journey as they put their lives on the
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the deadly beat on al jazeera. ah, bold and i'm told stories from asia and the pacific on al jazeera, the with the clock and the top stories here on al jazeera and the taliban is trying to ease his enough gun is done 2 days after took control of the capitol. the group was declared an amnesty across the country and his urging women to join the government . while after monday scenes of desperation, the situation at couple airport is stabilizing with military evacuation. flights not resuming. hundreds of afghans had earlier run onto the tarmac to escape taliban rule. of course, one of them right is more from couple.


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