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here with a local population that's been established and there's bound to be conflict for noise and decision to rule one way or the other has only made things worse by this land conflict is only one of the 100 still pending and growing while thousands of indigenous people wait for the supreme court to decide their faith. monica not give, i'll just 0. but she arg headlines here on al jazeera joe biden says that the us lead evacuation of americans and infallible afghans is accelerated by the says, more than 11000 people have been lifted from capella for just this weekend. that's not clear. if this number include not us evacuation flight is been under 5 for the pullout of us troops, which coincided with a ton of takeover, who was all the country. the evacuation of thousands of people for campbell is going to be hard and painful. no matter when it started,
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when we began would have been true if we had started a month ago or a month from now. there is no way to evacuate this many people without pain and loss of heartbreaking images. you see a television. it's just a fact. my heart vague for those things, those people you see biden is also said the taliban has so far kept its word on a lie access to comple airport but at least 20 people have died and the chaos have tried to leave the african capital in recent days. nearly 6000 u. s. and foreign troops are protecting the airport. but biting want of growing concerned that the fuel could become a target for tax? some taliban fighters are heading to the pension valley, one of the few areas, the group doesn't yet control. it lives just north of couple thousands of africans opposed to the taliban cleaning form of government troops of the government.
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tropical storm, henry is battering a stretch of the northeast in coast of the u. s. t, as hours of being downgraded from harkin. well, the 100000 people in new england, all without power at least to 22 people, are being killed off to a record breaking rains and flood water, surgery and central tennessee. among those killed a 2 toddlers who were reporting sweat from their father's arms rescued cruises still searching for dozen still missing the power outages. hampering efforts ready to be washed away and destroyed. major criminal gangs in haiti of offered a true switch shade groups, hope will allow earthquake relief efforts to accelerate the death toll from the august 14th quake has risen to more than 2200 tens of thousands of homes have been destroyed. day with headlines, we got more news coming up here on our desert right after inside story. ah,
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ah ah, ah, the united states is out of the ghana, san but the country strategic location and boss results is remain. so who stance the benefit from the american exit? what does it mean for regional security? this is inside story. ah. hello, welcome to the show. i'm sammy's a than as planned. the american military occupation of afghanistan is coming to an end. the pull out has been criticized as a major defeat,
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but was the 20 year war complete failure of for years america's military presence gave it an advantage over rivals in the region. it also allowed civil and military contract is to make millions of dollars. and the long war opened the window for mineral exploitation estimated to be worth billions. so if the war was so lucrative, could we see another one? moscow and beijing do not seem alarmed by the thought of bonds takeover. and they've already shown interest in supporting the future of afghanistan. jewels i'm calling from china, encourages i've gone taliban to presume moderate study religious policies and establish an open, an inclusive quality goal structure with the other parties, peaceful and friendly for policies, especially towards his neighbors. so as to realize the reconstruction and development of the volume controls almost all the rest of the all the cars
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including the capitol. these are y'all, it was, and it's from the reality is that one must see preventing the collapse of the gun or begin our discussion in a moment or 1st, let's take a look at once that state for the region. the security environments in afghanistan is still precarious. china india and the u. s. have voiced concerns about the tommy bon harboring armed groups. tommy bon says it will not. it's estimated afghans. stan has billions of dollars worth of natural resources and dozens of countries including rivals, india, and pakistan are looking to benefit by helping afghans extract them. with the prospects of a new government, political influence in afghanistan is up for grabs. china is seeking to secure it's belton road initiative, and that's kind of stand support would be essential for its corridor with pakistan . the. now from on this i'm joined by our guests. we have joining us from miami june teufel dreyer,
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a professor at the university of miami and a specialist on asia economy and security. she's also written extensively on mineral mining in da hash ma muffler and independent african analyst hush met his covered f kinda stand extensively. and is one of the 1st journalists to have interviewed the tardy bomb after $911.00. good. have you with us? so if we can with hash, then for the last 20 years i've gone this town has been a center for us power throughout central asia. how much of a radical change in the balance of power takes place right now? well, we have to look at the u. s. with, they're all going to in the life of the why the security concerns of the us regionally and globally, the u. s. government has learned at that when you destroy and national is the stomach movement locked up all of on. as they did similar groups in iraq, the remnants or the left over fighters and go on and joined the stomach state. and
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they will pose a much more potent threat to the u. s. interest in the region. overall, the threat of kaiser and the stomach, a state is seen by the us security analyst, that persistent condition and not as an existing short threat to the u. s. strategic interests in the region and globally, also the stomach, a state has been engaged in africa and the deserts of syria. and there are basically contain their use would like to keep the fighting, confined to those areas. and the main issue for the use of the moment is the re emergence of long term strategic competition from russia and china. and for that reason, the u. s. does not want to be bulk down in the streets. i'm going to stand trying to keep peace and security and they would like to hand that over to the regional allies. names focused on and focused on has very close relations with oliver and
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focused on it will stop contracts that use interest to the tolerable and the following will go on to sub contract to the local commanders and the tribal elders will then looked up, construct that to the individuals with the currency of religion was coming off in the jan is not going to get them far in their fight against the threats office by the stomach, a state the fall of $1.00 bond would soon need some dollars. if i'm going to call in the collapse of the all of them, because the u. s. want to help with internet kimmy who does not want to help the tall one will not use their limited resources to fight the isis in effect, the isis has become an asset for the all of our resorts for the college and the regional government. right, that's an interesting way of looking at it. jude will the us then continue to exert some influence. do you think in afghan, a stan especially through economic factors,
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the supply of dollars and i've kind of stands phone reserves. i think there are excellent arguments, suggestion for us applying some dollar city asking on economy. as a matter of fact, today's financial times has a very interesting article by someone who says that the failure of the united states in afghanistan was a failure to support economic reconstruct economic construction in afghanistan, after the united states invaded, i'm not an expert on afghanistan, but i do watch with the u. s. government was doing and it was trying very hard to create infrastructure in afghanistan. the problem being whenever they would build something like a power station, the taliban would come and blow it up. and unfortunately, despite the good arguments for united states, remaining it in, in some kind of supportive role. if only to mitigate the influence of china or
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russia be public opinion in the united states is going to be dead set against doing math. so, and public opinion in the united states now just read down by not only the biden administration, but the state department and the intelligence community for not warning them that this is coming. so i think it would be a very hard sell to get bills. ating, afghanistan, the taliban government, through congress. at this point, june, mentioned their national, the influence of russia and china. the us concern over that, judging by statements, we've heard, at least so far from russian officials, we think moscow believes it can reach an understanding with the taliban, which would help it to project its power after the u. s. withdraw? yes, i just wanted to say one thing 1st that i'm not aware of follow attacking power stations
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and destroying power stations or dams the following lines. but they may infrastructure off the dams. the failure of the us policy and i've gotten into the economy was mainly due to its following a market economy model and not a mixed economy like the european 2nd world war, where the government was run off of essential, essential parts of the economy. and as for support of russia for all of on the russia, the more pragmatic ideological when it comes to foreign policy towards i'm going to send at least now after the soviet collapse, the unity then hash met. absolutely. the russians do see an opportunity and i'm going to some, especially if they want to keep security, or that in their 1000 a border through the independent countries of those on to come and also china,
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good luck was going to start to become a hub for the state from which they could recruit or of china and create trouble for the chinese government. so the fact that i get this done is a double edged sword with a ton of on. and it remains to see how they get into play. this call. i've opened up a lot of things that take them apart now june starting with the influence of china, the opportunity for china. do you think beijing sees an opportunity for its influence to grow enough kind of stand post the u. s. withdrawal and a ton of bond rise to 60 percent of its economic contrast there. well, china, definitely season opportunity. but china also sees a lot of risks. and as her mom had said, there is a, there is a good relationship between the taliban and elements in pakistan. not necessarily the pakistani government and, but their, their chinese are also very wary of what,
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what is going on in pakistan, just a couple of days ago, several of their nationals were killed in a raid on the china pakistan economic corridor that goes through god are and also through believe she territory and they believe she are not very happy with this corridor. and there would be more of that. and we keep talking here about the taliban government, the taliban government, the taliban government. and clearly they're, they're going to be in charge and cobble, but that doesn't mean they're in charge of the rest of afghanistan. and there are a lot of other ethnic groups who are not especially happy with the taliban. and there is, are reports. and you know, how many you're there, i'm not i deferred to your greater knowledge. but according to today's papers, the taliban are engaged in battles with resistance forces in northern afghanistan.
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and i don't think those people are going to give up and go away very easily. so we have to contend with, to what extent is the taliban going to be in charge of all of the afghanistan and what can be done if china goes in and says yes, here are billions will help. and china has also become more wary. i think of how much good is billions are doing because it has been burned in places like 3 want the malaysian government has been unhappy. there are concerns with dams and parents that don't behave the way they and so on. so i don't think china is going to play santa claus very easily and ask dana, stan especially since conditions there are apt to be troubled for a long time to come. but do you think actually you've opened up another issue and hush my nose, the north can stand very well. so let's take this point to him and hush my talking
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about some of the key figures in the punchy valley in the north. do you think we'll see international or regional banking emerge for people like atmosphere, food, the son of the famous african commander ma chalmers, food, all the former vice president on the last dollar was now declaring himself to be the rightful acting president of afghanistan. ok, so there are 2 issues here and the issue of china, our lives are like to come back to that. but the issue of resistance and punish valley against the taliban. it's a very, very complex and interesting and future making complex conflicts that is emerging in function funny. the color bomb need international recognition. they want a piece will transfer our from the old government to the toner bond so that they can claim international legitimacy so that they can stop any resistance against them as being a legitimate resistance. so therefore,
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the car is now was pressure valley and the former vice president, amber law solid and the resistant forces rallying around, much, almost with sun muscle. the negotiating with the on a bomb to concede power in exchange for certain policy changes on the thought of the, all of on and power sharing with autobahn and also bringing in other groups around the fall of one. but let's not forget the major victory of all of all has being that they broke through the ethnic lines in the last 340 years. and you, in demick, corruption within the government. where the villages, where they used to consist the backbone of resistance against all of them, the people shifted towards the volleyball, stopped fighting, and they stopped supporting the national army. they stopped supporting the local commanders like jungle like jungle and the other commanders in my hon. in the
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west these, there's so much into the government, the foot in the government, the food outside of the government, the touch with the people with no power base. and when it matter that you have the local base people to move, it was all of them. if this was an election, it would have been a lot like there was a follow this time around if you notice the thought about managed to capture northern cities before the capture solvent. and we know that the thought of a dominant, the bassoon. so the thought about broke the syndic line and know the situation that we called for font power power to plain the north of afghanistan with the u. s. i know that my food has been calling for us support. would there be a us appetite for that? would the russians allow some of their former soviet states to return to the sort of arrangement in the ninety's way? you saw taja korea back backing for powerful ethnic figures to destabilize the
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taliban grip on power and the taliban. while they allowed groups opposed to the governments into gk stan and was becca stan top right from afghan territory. can we expect that kind of calculus to reemerge? i think the us, 1st of all that you will realize is that a collapse or that filed the state of the all about and continued ward is not in the i am sure the focused on is have managed to convince the americans that is not in their best interest the washer, the absolutely terrified often tenure was not going to stand because it's will spill over into it was back in touch on because remember, the thought about condition is what's the us and others that you help us. we help you. it's a ton of a lot helped then to follow them, cannot be held responsible for a groups emerging and going across and causing security concern for russia. so i don't see any of those states willing to give the resistance inside any military
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support, but the biggest support they could give is that just tells us all about who will not like you, not over united nation seek to you will not have economy relations with you, unless you reach a settlement with the northern alliance or the fight is gathering around the form of government, which is amber last thought at the moment, which is technically a, he's the vice president and he holds the position at the moment. so this is the best card and the follow on. i think they know that they do not want to take over power by force and then allow a situation of reality on the ground politics. the mistake was that all of all and some would not. they also told them, do not want to repeat the mistakes of how many cars, there's government, where they said that the follow up to fix it. that not bring that all of on into the formation of a new government on a bond with on to create a new list. and they can't bounce back to where they are. now. it's quite possible
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that over a long time, if you don't recognize and they continue control, i've got this done. and the northern fighters or the fight is up under the guise of the for my government continue to fight. i'm going to still only become unstable, insecure. i don't see that month our take over. doesn't sound like from what we're hearing from, i guess. most of the global and regional pals. one that right now it sounds like they all see a, an interest in keeping afghanistan stable, even if it is on the taliban. control june, even if that's the case, the u. s. continues, of course to freeze afghan assets. there will be a lack of dollars flowing into afghanistan, the sort of arrangement which the former afghan government had of dollars coming in from the u. s. to pay salaries. that's all going to come to bad very soon,
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right june. that's going to bite the afghan economy very soon. i suspect are there are negotiations going on even now about what to do about those assets. and the good that i also suspect that the united states government, and let's be very careful here. we keep talking about united states, united states, united states. the mood in the united states now is get the heck out of afghanistan and leave it to its own devices. and it is going to be very, very difficult. no matter how wise people and the biden and administration have ideas for yes, it would be in the best interest reunited to help stabilize that they're going to have to overcome severe domestic resistance. and i don't see the path forward for the taliban, stabilizing the country. to be that easy. this morning i saw
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a video made by mohammed moore, who is a charge warlord who fled to afghanistan when i think it was ms. are you sure refill me words and he is saying will fight our resistance will continue. and then he says only if we, well, if we are gal to enter the power equation, are we willing to play ball with the taliban? and he said, we won't become slaves to be outside hers and i want his phrase, we will not go to others tables for decoration, we want to be a partner in power show. i don't see that the taliban being able to, to stabilize the country that easily. and until the united states is convinced that
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there is a stable government there, it's going to be very reluctant to unfreeze those assets hush laptops we should talk about pakistan as well. they have one of the biggest regional winners from the change in of power in cobble right now. absolutely. and let's also not forget that, that is not only america that has security concerns. the gulf region also has security concerns. iran has security concerns. india has security concerns and those regional powers do not want that's all about the claps. and i'm sure that some top cash injection into the all about government agreement just to keep the float for the near future will happen. and i think it would be a responsible thing clothing. it was interesting hash value for india in that group . judging by the tone, at least in indian media, they seem very keen on the idea of supporting and the legitimacy of under
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a law father and supporting asthma. masoud. yeah, absolutely. and there will be a balancing act, some will support the thought on and make the fall of on dependent on their dollars . and so therefore, dollars, all of them have to listen to them. and india will support the much, much with sun under commanders in the north to make them dependent on the policy to be a proxy negotiations keeping the security of the region in the image of those nations in mind. and that will continue. but if one side allows the other side to take the better of the other one, like to jump on. if the northern fight just come up, the india, i've actually lost america, lost a bargaining chip and other potential governments in the region that would like to see the fall of one more time lost the bargaining chip. so now the fight is in punch she'd rather than she'd by the way, it's a very strategic value or very small. it's cut off from the stuff i'm going to send . i've been there getting some of the resistance against the telephone. but it has
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a very strong strategic depth and it sits right over the capital cobble. they can't come back. but i think the leaders in the north and the all my government are banking on this dissatisfaction of the people by keeping the economic stronghold over the thought a bond. and therefore making what they can at least and then getting them to turn against the olive on its own game of getting the people against the government. otherwise, on june, from an economic perspective hush, matt was saying that there will be some regional powers, pakistan, iran that will want to see the tommy bon administration at least survive. can anyone fill the void? i mean, you look at some of the, the numbers, frankly, international aid accounted for around 75 percent of us can stand budget and 43 percent of its g d p. can anyone fill that void whether it's china or pakistan or iran? i honestly, i think africana stan is and for
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a long period of and sticking with t and i think international agencies are going to try to meet the basic needs of people for food and shelter. but beyond that, i don't see great generosity emanating given the instability of the country. now if the taliban can stabilize the country, that's another issue. that's another ball game, but i don't see that happening in the near future. all right, we've got a final 30 seconds. i think we'll give it the hash map i think going to world bank, 60 percent of our going to sense economy is dependent on agriculture. and so 60 percent of the economy, the grocery level will just survive, but what will collapse, what will be?
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what will suffer is actually the government process. teachers, though the security forces and all that. all right, and good to get your thoughts on this. thanks. thank con. guess very much, june teufel, dryer and hash mont mostly and thank you to for watching. you can see the show again, any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion head over to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story, and also join the conversation on twitter. our handle there is a j inside story from me, sammy's a, that i'm the whole team here and i'll go find the ah ah
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