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to kima therapy, the average survival, the average survival has gone up by 3 months. but for a significant number of patients, it's greater than this. and so in the best responding group, the average survival is as high as 18 months now, which is a very real improvement. and for some patients, for the 1st time, we're beginning to see we can potentially cure their disease so they remain endurable. they're remission for many years after treatment. so there's still a great deal more to do, but we are potentially beginning to get to the point where we can cure this cancer in some patients. ah. and let's take you through some of the headlines here. now just here, now the e. u is pledging a $1000000000.00 to help afghanistan for money will go to aid agencies. not the taliban international funds have been frozen since the arm group sees control of the country. schools in hong kong have been suspended as rain and wind from typhoon
com pursue hit the financial hub. authorities of canceled morning trade on the city stock market. rob mcbride is following developments from hong kong. this has been a fairly big, impactful typhoon or the 1st place to be affected was the philippines, as it came in from the western pacific, effecting mainly the island in the north of lou zone. it caused a quite a lot of flooding landslide, some deaths and injuries there. what often happens is that these storms will lose a lot of their intensity as they move over the philippines, which this one has but con, pursue, has then stayed out in the south. china sea moving westwards in it, as, as it does so, it basically it has not lost more strength of anything. it may have gained a little till a president has impose the state of emergency over the so called approach a conflict. the armed indigenous group has been fighting to recover its ancestor
land troops being sent to, to southern regions hit by violence. tens of thousands of government supporters of rally the cross bolivia. it follows days of anti government protest against the proposed law. the bill gives authority. the power to investigate citizens assets without of course order us immigration officers will start carrying out mass res workplaces defined undocumented immigrants. it's positive jo, 5 and shift towards punishing businesses that violate labor laws rather than going off the vulnerable workers. homeland security hopes to reduce illegal labor by handing out harsher consequences to employers. kenny, as president holder kenyatta says he firmly rejects the ruling by the international court of justice, largely in favor of somalia in the long time disputes over the maritime border. both of the headlines news continues here. now just here,
after the train stay with talk to al jazeera, we ask what gives you hope that it is going to be peace because the situation on the ground seems to be pointing. otherwise we listen. we were never on her whatever wrote off migration. we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter on al jazeera. i hi on semi okay, day on the stream, the mistreatment of asylum seekers in europe. i want you to take a look at this video taken by undercover jonas on the krisha bosnia border so what you are seeing here are refugees being being said,
this technique is used to discourage people from entering european union. it's known as pushback, and it is a needle. in this episode of the stream we ask, is europe abandoning refugees? if you're on youtube right now, the comment section is live, put your thoughts, your comments or questions right here in the chat section. and you can be part of today's episode at the street. ah, let's get this conversation started with nicole massimo. can me, you're very welcome to the stream, the co festival. please introduce yourself. hello to our internet audience. tell them who you are, what you do. hi, my name is nicole federally and i am an investigative journalist working for swiss national television. and i, together with lighthouse reports and a lot of other european journalists. i published this footage that he had just saw last week, which what was quite the bus in the, you know,
nice to have you talk more about life, which is in the story. thank you. you and other colleagues and partners put together massey mo, nice to see you. welcome to the string, please introduce yourself to audience i nice to see as well. my name is much more at the i am a deputy director of amnesty europe at a job office. and as on misty we have been following the show for migration and bush backs in the for the past years. but because i have been for english virtually in croatia, at least for about 2 and a half years. and i'm very glad that this you know, the piece of your grade piece was one of them came out. thank you for making time for us to down the street and can me, you're very welcome to the street. please introduce yourself that i wouldn't who you are. what you do. hi, my name is kimmy lucas. i'm a senior policy analyst at the migration policy institute here. oh thing base in brussel. and we focus on the analysis of migration and assessing policies as dary, blah here in brussels. i would love all if you guys to talk to me about this
assignment. this piece of journalism that so many people put together, but i'm going to start with me co. what was the assignment? what were you trying to prove? so i've been working on this issue for almost 3 years already. so it was like, for me as a journalist, it was quite hard to see on a daily basis when i was in the field that people are pushed back like every day, very often, very brutally out of the european union into bosnia herzegovina, and unable to collect it is still there, all still able to deny, say this are all lies. this is just not happening. well, no one ever showed us any proof. and so we recorded pushback went on and on. but what we were never able to record is these really wide and pushback stats are done by masked men. we heard a lot about them there in hidden remote areas. and we also saw the wounds. we saw
people with our keys, we saw them beat them up coming out of the forest, but we weren't able to catch them on a video till this tune when we finally managed to get the video that you just saw before. so we were finally able to prove that these men are existing and that they belong to the creation police that they are lo, enforcement members. and this was a very important step also to prove that they were financed partly by the you, by you and funds. so we had that missing piece that had the evidence of video. we may well be denying it. this is actually happened happening exactly from a right to human rights perspective. pushback is a legal can you explain to us in what way it is a legal people as i to seek cuz i don't mean companies. so, i mean, this is these, but some very simply data being denied the possibility of seeking us. i don't mean
course this is in 1st place, you know, but i mean, the, what we see these pictures, i mean, we see brutality of police forces. you know, we see behaviors that there's an armless, you had no problems in defining as ill treatment, any sort of on cases even amounted to torture. so yes, that is the pushback did that the for when people died on from making their own eyes. but then this is happening in a way that goes through, you know, it really makes it completely illegal. anything you creates an either a set of human rights. my only chance is what can we, i'm just going to show something here. the title of this video is pushed back using a life raft to way in the g and c, and what we have ah refugees in a life raft. and they just pushed out to see they're not rescued. they that was speeding the video up so you can see what happens and they just left. so this is this man slow to say, attempted murder. what, what would he say the face can me happening here? yeah, i think what we're saying is that best practices are now you and,
and they've already been last year pollution of antonio. that really is black books about all the little pushback where we're seeing may be, is less and less public. and for despite the fact that yes indeed, they're illegal and on this side of the european commission and there's been whole for investigation by human proceed. gratiot, i believe, has already announced that they will do an investigation into the lighthouse report reporting. but we also know that, you know, we should also see that the commission is non do a lot of pressure to deliver on a new practice migration in asheville, im especially given the limited progress that has been done in the past years. and so they may refrain from publicly condemning amanda states ahead of what they see as very sensitive negotiation. i'm just wondering what little vibrant is right now . marcella. and back in 2015, we saw a migrant crisis. and then countries were feeling like we can, we can't handle these migrants. but now we're seeing actual
i was quite finance. disgraceful behavior. where are we right now in the psyche of europe and migrates in refugees and asylum seekers? we have a very warding situation. let's. let's be clear about this. i mean, you know what, we see what the police creation police forces have time to do is trying to practice the therapist to discourage people from seeking that i from speaking as i don't you know, and this is, this is a really, really concern. i mean, at this point, you know, we spoke this afternoon about creation. we spoke about the grease, the lighthouse report called mainland, but this is a practice that is quite widespread in europe at the moment. the moment we have the people on the ball and bennett was board that was pack them up. and when the day the ball on the also, you know, it's, it's not as voting is that the berries in the ocean, off your, my standards here,
you know, we are honestly low. and this is really what we really would like to make people. i love, you know, because it's getting in danger thing. what's really important at nicole is that the creation situation, the people doing the beating off they're not identified. it's not a force that is very open about the work that they are doing. and yet they're funded by the use. tell us more. yeah, i guess what, um, what is that i wanted to to add something on to a to marcy my what, what choked me the most is the normalization of it. like it just became, it just became a daily thing to do and not, you know, as something shocking that happens sometimes. so and what we see on the creation busing board, there is the system behind it. so it is, it is organized from the top, we were able to speak to several insiders who work inside the christian and
police are used to work there. and they told us that they really get to come on from the interior ministry directly from bush in which was the interior minister to proceed with push back to when they find a set of seekers in their territory to just take them, put them in the van and literally, like, i often get this feeling like human trash, just throw them out of the european union. and this is a, let's say, a governmental order. and what they, they do, they take like these special forces increase or they're mostly a part of the intervention police. they are taught to deal with hooligans to deal with, like violent football games. so they use their techniques that they've learned to a unified hooligans just to fro out, migrants out of the you and, and yeah,
this was really shocking. also to see it on which level and on which side is practices are, are spread all ready. i would have bringing a new voice can be i'm gonna, i'm gonna put this video to you. this is helena han. she's a policy analyst, european policy center. and she draws a connection between pushback and you funding. i would like you to react to the video and tell us what you think, who she is, the recent investigations and to push back that the use extra borders are shocking . but in many ways, do not come as a surprise. and this is because they form part of a larger trend of increasing to turns towards migrants and people seeking international protection. at the same time, it is also a reflection of the fact that the disproportionate burden faced by countries. the 1st arrival is an issue that remains unresolved at the you level. we see this in the new pac negotiations, where members states have been unable to find common ground and how to best address the situation. looking forward, it seems that public pressure may not be enough to truly change the practice is on
the ground. it is therefore important that there be more transparency in terms of how you funding is used for border control purposes. but also that accountability mechanisms at the national level are improved things and things are the video and helena sets, i think on these we're, it's an interesting point because this happened just one week are few days after 12 a you members state of ask and that you funding couldn't be used, you know, not only on the 4 civilians purposes, but also to build a to be a walls which is not the case at the moment. and so we're seeing this conversation in a way of moving giver for their, of what you funding at a low to do an ice for the monitoring of what you money is spent on. i mean, this has been a concern for a number of years. and there's been discussion, for instance, at the moment on the monitoring of the work of from text which we haven't talked about yet. you know,
on how do we better monitor the work of these. i didn't see and, you know, had this human right mom fundamental reichman, curies that are being deployed the european in parliament as also tried to be active on this topic. and so that they was, are a lot of the efforts that are ongoing. i think the difficulties often that the commission may advice something and then reaching a consensus among all the different members state i remains very difficult given how sensitive this topic has become. i'm, i'm looking here of my laptop at junior and with his wife and child. they were abandoned in the a g and c. so pushed back at c. nicole, can you tell us about some of the experiences the asylum seekers had had that are now in your reporting? i think i'm really sorry. i have a very bad connection at the moment. can you?
yeah, yeah. tell us about the experiences of some of the people that you spoke to who, who've been free push back. what's happened to them? what's been done to them? i'm sorry, i cannot hear you at them. all right, we're gonna, we're going to send people. we're going to send you back said we're going to reconnect with you. my son. i know you heard me ask that question twice. go ahead, help me out. yeah. yeah, well, i mean, you know, the issue is where the route starts. this. there was piece boiler where to find to reach a grease, you know, but a lot of people who live in greece, i mean very often are held in the, in the islands, in very difficult situations, you know, and may have tried to continue their job. so their job on me, i mean a lot they buy companies for life is a continuous he story off bush backs of trying to cross the border and facing the police. my earnings at every ball that so this is what, what is happening. so there. yeah, the images that we see right now, i mean,
is exactly what you know, the way they, the greek course got out of behaving and this is nothing new. we also need to remember that the same scenes happen at the border between greece and turkey at emerald study, right in that region. that's where i missed the authors documented, see about exhausted. so it's a continuous staggoner for that for people to at all fade, they're facing constantly railings by police forces. they're trying to see. cuz i learned that the night as i along that push back and they keep going, insisting said johnny, that can last years. in some cases we spoke to people who had been on the road for 23 years on that sir. that's happening. satori us is an associate professor and comparative european politics. he's at university of family and he spoke to us just a few hours at her well, have been seeing for some time now in european borders is a class between 2 diverging policies. on the one hand, the european union, which is with whits because developed our so called fortress europe policy,
where basically they do not want to have any big numbers of him guns or if he does or asylum seekers coming into europe. and on the other hand, neighbors countries such as turkey, where they're worn into bog post, more migration flows towards europe. because number one, they want to alleviate their own problem. button number 2, they can use, it is migration flows. as on the gossip inducted against some more financial compensation from europe. and so basically we end up having a big number of people caught in the middle between our rock on a hard place where they're trying to cross the border. and they're being deborah encouraged or helped to cross the border. so what i'm so glass on the little chat is some concern, but i also a lot of anti migrant thoughts right now. maybe mirroring what is happening in europe. and he put some ideas and thoughts to you. can me help me out with this one? how miss os? what right or legal case, the countries invoke, when accused of pushing back migrates?
i think so far a number of them. i've been a been denying them. i think i've been denying it and, and i think this is why this investigation or also other mechanism like independent human right monitor ring mechanism are important and will need to be establish and moving forward. and what we're single say is like we were invest, i mean the you is invest in bit, investing more and more in, you know, protecting you border which in turn put, i think you're up in a vulnerable position because it will never make or border or medic and this someone back fired because these shows a partner enemies that you know, this is a button that they can press on that when they're not happy with a policy or decision that has been made brussel. and i think that's exactly what we've seen in the case of belarus of what we're seeing regularly was morocco or turkey. lastly, just a quick response to glory b who is watching light now on you chip. glory says all immigrants need to be
vetted. what is the difference between that situation of being that it inc lollies terminology and what you are seeing in the way that you of his county dealing with refugees and asylum seekers. i mean people need to be a yoke. kids need to be assess individually each case need to be assessed individually . if we are taking people are finding them in the forest, putting them in the bass, beating them and then standing them across the border. i mean, this is not in the viva consideration of cases. so i mean, what is she in is an empty and that the new is just pure bureau, you know, violence. this is what we are. see what we are seeing is impunity. one thing we need to remember is that, i mean, the pushback in this case is a part of a crime because you don't even have that body of the victim. the person, because a person is across the board of us with personal, cannot even go to
a normal institution and complain about this, you know, because the other guy across the board of that a. so it's really, i mean, you know, that i am of the majority. right. so i have shown an audience i have sent you pictures from greece, the crow, set bosnia border at the picture just beside me here. this is poland to pick one behind me is poland. along this bob, why here is lithuania, is multiple countries. multiple countries in you do not want asylum seekers in their country. i want to take you into the forest of poland, where polish ngo are assisting a group of iraqi men who were hiding in the forest. i will give you just a little sample of their current lives. i leave that beauty of him. v l had a secluded volunteer. the final water lab alozia, the polish border police pushed us back to bell roofs. they didn't beat us, but then again, they didn't give us water and food. we asked for water, but we didn't get any. they pushed us back and said,
don't come back here. go back to bell roofs and on the phone in iraq, you monthly and just i have no idea what will happen to them. i hope that we will succeed very quickly and providing protection application to the european court of human rights, which will protect these migrants if it succeeds. sonya go seldom because good to have you back into the conversation. we reached out as a show to authorities in greece and authorities in romania, and we talked about your reporting and the impact reporting and pushback. this is what the greece ministry, maritime affairs and insular policy told us, i'm just going to go right down here to the bottom. as for the 10 dishes allegations of supposed illegal actions, we must emphasize of the operation practices of the greek authorities have never included such actions. even though we showed you video earlier. and we to see what's happening with the romanian border. police 1st sentence, remaining and bore the police applies
a 0 tolerance policy against abuse of any kind applied to migrant. so you did the reporting. it took so long and now you're getting. i was gonna say pushback about pushback right now. yeah, i mean it's what we are used to i this was my, i think florida, a big report about pushback. it was the 1st where we were able to prove that while in to used on which you in it's are involved. but it's, yeah, it's shocking to me as a person, but also as a journalist that you can bring proof and prove and prove. and there's always this supposedly, or we deny any, you know, any of these allegations. so it's very clear what is happening here. it's a political decision. so the way also people are politicians just closed their
eyes is for me a way of also completely being complicit. like in between the lines, you always get this feeling as everyone just wants to to be happening. let's just hope it stays in the close forest and no journalist get there and can see it. so yeah, we, the only thing that we turn those are left with is just to keep going and i can tell you, we will keep it go and we will be able to prove more and more because they also felt too safe in doing that. and yeah, but the rest, this politics and love journalism, unfortunately, let me just go to one more voice into the conversation. guess this is antonius exact? he's. he is a member of the anti races industry affects along the king. and he talks about addressing the root cause, he says, why a scientific as a seeking asylum in the 1st place here is also it is also by lead housing for senior reason because are promised me that she gives my
product. this happened more and more bought this in order for this ranges, factors to stop. you don't realize. busy that there are same sequence, i'm not really a thread for you, but people in need of support and they enjoy long to all these people. let's say you don't, then we ship something about the mediation. make them leave congress fascinates. i guess in the closing few minutes of the show, one thought one sentence about now, what is your needs do about pushback can be you thought, i think maybe i'll go back to a point that, that your guess just made on the need to do more in the country for urging, as well. i think we're seeing a lot of discussion in the past few days about humanitarian assistance in afghanistan in country. nate, bring up possibly turkey as well. we know, i mean,
be on pushback. we know that they, they've built all these question of like, how can we support people, you know, it's in this country to begin with. ok, massimo, gasoline it is. it is concern. i mean of people that lead to not leave the houses unless they fade. and this is just something that is happening. i mean, we are, i mean, we need to remember that it's to the states are saying now, but the mean that the previous that the sign he's the that their respects and the collection of all that needs to happen in compliance with your, my flow. so you know, these 3, these are not the people, the states cannot be controls what they like, implement, they need to respect to their, their, their rights. they have to call yes, i can just, i mean you go with the point that must be most just underlined. i mean, for me as a journalist,
i love to see that fundamental human rights international laws and national laws are implied again, like that they value something and that you can rely on them. and if a law says something that this person has to write to seek asylum has to ride for a fair procedure that this is implemented and not just, you know, step with a foot on these things. so this is what i'm hoping for. going to be one more voice into this conversation that is the voice of over johannes. and she's been reacting from you to some of the downing evidence that we've been talking about in the last 25 minutes. hey, she is these reports, i'm sorry too, that people are being victims of violence are still orders. of course, if that is true, it's totally separable. and that's why i think it's so important now that this need to be investigated. and especially also if you are being a part of this,
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