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ya vibrant financial center. hong kong airport was once asia's busiest. it's now eerily quiet. on monday, no flights arrived from outside asia. airlines were banned for a week if 3 or more passengers test positive for cobra from the same flight. and every one entering the territory must quarantine for a week in a hotel. many other countries in asia, including singapore and south korea, have opened their borders to fully vaccinated travelers who no longer need to quarantine. that in turn, is helping their economies to grow again. but hong kong like mainland china is sticking doggedly to what it calls a dynamic 0 infection strategy. that means eliminating the virus rather than learning to live with it. it's a strategy that many economists warn, could damage hong kong, economic future. adrian brown, al jazeera hong kong. ah,
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one scientist intend to take us back to the ice age to say the permafrost below, he's reintroducing animal to the grasslands above. darting with the living creatures, planning to resurrect an extinct species. i'm afraid i have witnessed the most high purchases on algae dara. the when the cobra pandemic, again, the need to minimize face to face contact drove many of the world judicial systems on line. know in the name of cost, speed and greater efficiency. some of them want to stay there. but critics say that holding trials in cyberspace can deny defendants the right to a fair hearing and remove safeguards against abuse. so who's right?
we asked reporters sarasota to investigate. ah ah, the physical confines, the courtroom. a place of solemnity, decorum, and authority. that is the cleavage pandemic sent the globe inter yorktown. courts praise that doth states middle thirties around the world, tend to new ways to keep legal wheels spinning fe went online. the principal argument is going to be that it saves time and it saves money. no one
rhina is the chief executive of the n g, a fair trials international. at some point, you have to be willing to say that justice is more important than expediency. the greatest power government could wield short of, of warfare is the power to prosecute, to imprison in some places to put to death. the function of a criminal defense lawyer is to stand between the individual and that awesome use of power. and in order to do that, effectively, you have to be in personal contact with your client. ah la, we'll see that his available my much because might this note of cushions across the globe. judiciary is we're quick to see the potential i'm a judge. and so with a software companies, digital justice with virtual court hearings from microsoft in help governments
deliver justice at scale. inevitably, this new virtual world was not without its changing his settings. i think this is a setting on your i ipad. so your i ipad probably sat to stay in portrait, mo, let me go into my settings. is that what i need to do or judge dean is modeling it for you if you can see him? oh, come on, cathy can do this is okay, were all new to this. and occasionally when the room button was pressed, real judicial hearing descended into outright cause to part and i believe you have a filter turned on in the video setting. i don't know how to remove it from my assistant. her she's trying to book. oh, i'm repaired no forward with it. i'm us. i'm here law. it's not. i'm not a chair. put apart from technical. he comes this brave new virtual world, lucy pennies, a serious legal questions. can you hear me judge?
i can hear you. i think the fish caught video has an important notice in the corner, but that didn't stop being shown around the world. the problem, ah, with the remote viewing of a trial is that people tend to just see snippets or what, what, what somebody else decides is work. seeing there is no, i'm alternative. if you want true justice from being there from start to finish. the right and duty of the public policy trust is being done is considered a fundamental principle of nace. jurisdictions that critique say that becomes hugely problematic when the process is remote. and factual representation of an individual to a sentencing authority has to be a human engagement. if that person is at a remote location in the custody and control, or the jailer, or a police, a police officer, you're not going to see. you're not going to hear. you're not going to learn the real facts. that's where the concerns about torture committee. and there's no
substitute for having a person since we pressed our inquiry. it took us across the globe to examine claims that state abuse, state torture has been going on, seen on hearings, went online. and that these failures in remote justice have been happening in some countries where police brutality is endemic. and where the judiciary is the last shield against human rights abuses, ah, the city of south holland, in brazil, in this huge nation, beset by criminality, drug related violence, and with vast disparities of wealth, one in 5 people in custody have reported police brutality after being arrested but until 2015, those people were held in pre trial detention sometimes by the very will for it is
who had perpetrated that appeals with no access to a court hearing where they could complain about their ill treatment. ah, 7 years ago that began to change the headquarters at the south polo law firm. marina diaz told us about special custody herring's, where defendant brought face to face in from to the judge within a day of their arrest. i think those murray kinsey or but as you know, she al james surgical storage like appetizing cassandra praising pinch. quite resolution. he's ne, appetizing, cassandra, please laga pause. abdi zoe flag ranch. eli 3 mommy. cheaper. think for those more cheese the mirror would kill me and twinkie up is so a poor g hila bows me if implies a closely should your lengths you're altered, put a block while at the opposite. the introduction of new face to face custody herrings was widely welcomed and trumpeted on this official justice department
video with these face to face herrings with the opportunity for a judge to assess whether someone had suffered abuse at the hands of state authorities. but they also allowed defendant to speak directly to a judge about their treatment when they were arrested and even described their abuse. the effect was significant figures reveal that between 20152019 after in person custody herrings were introduced complaints of police or treatment more than doubled. but then cove, it struck and face to face herrings suspended in both scenarios, brazil, social unrest and state repression continued. these arrests occurred in sol paolo the month before we arrived. but as the state pushed for custody herrings to go online, the concern that people arrested across brazil now had limited opportunities to
complain about their treatment. lawyers and human rights activists fed violence and abuse of prisoners was once again going unchallenged. and the defendants were appearing online from prisons and police stations where of camera, they were open to intimidation and coercion. though i all view a key ah james, up it is ng so if i storage fittings and if it is for me to live gleneagles that are so key are going to suffice. good. will made of his list on what it is. oh yes, you don't think want to soil sink was even give it if he garcia, le boards look it up as a central gay kiss. dasia crashing. do i, ala, a e act inclusive in that fitting dulness work? so the booming ah, in lute areas of states like panam, butare, ne, brazil monitoring what was happening became even more difficult. international
protocols, all clear hearings should be in a neutral, impartial environment. loya maria clara davila told us of a different reality. these only even delegates, mild jessica poem in delegates. the new style panel. if i placebo, that if you are right as a like alley died, dizzy, i'll call him with his mom names. now, james episode i was or not that age. she june, a boyish didn't end up lucy view. a i've yet a mean will disguising for that allocated b g, b, a c h a r c, alyssa hitcher? i don't my, any bill? oh, this one go now why drop out? the brazilian national justice council is responsible for setting regulations on the functioning of the judiciary. one of those requirements is that online herring's should include the use of a $360.00 degree camera as shown and tie room and who's in it.
but when glen wilder batista, a public defender and param, bouquet, conducted a survey of local police stations, he made a disturbing discovery. but if you go mr. bay, you know you mozilla garcia's will bring yours. his evils bow that, that, i mean are some of course national. josh, these are steve yelton is are so welcome. miracle has also it was, it's as if a garage when we off to space person for the national council. why so many police stations did not have such cameras? they explained it is the responsibility of each court to ensure compliance with these rules. the technical issues were not just limited to the use of cameras, ill pay weiss that is said they box ipad robbie acidic wash dogged inc, implementer more me associate than all the absolute farmington nod book. you pushed the other stubb. i left off and there's another consent arising from the
explosive expansion of the actual justice. is there an adequately secure, reliable, and properly maintained judicial internet? that's not what batista found in kind of because a movie does all kinds your is the noise for shot. erm was, these are not veronica, yell diesel dick washed order for hailey zab ah voting damage to lou? certainly, la nicole, while pennies are sold, what? but it was subtle. lot. bravo, bravo. gene people, lisa, lacquer labella garcia ah, in south carolina, at this public defender's office we met lawyer t argo till unit 2, e. lead inspections in prisons. he told us about online hearings. there are solid though jane searches this thing. think of those, but his voice only does when he does not think, woke up with us a dodge mantle. inch adjusted the bottle concert last joyce in cube resort of all
offers, indulging so in going to joan roy dudgin with his own eyes. oh la adela. none all but it's your knocker murder, my sick of all the girl. oh, vin go daub. naveen go good. deal goose colleague, so rarely use if attended an online hare in last year or press up as i am confident i saw online that it is up at a young galaxy yourself in the last sad you know lane sounds loading show up. is them a leaking out the door? the whole bar, the pillars put a sagging. todd is a shell esl film up here. so her 3rd amendment. so this policy in africa. mesa at domains. kelley pitt. there are policies that i've been under pick a shannon b o g. so they said that the purpose appears at that time. i'm with that assay was locked eyes on g as i guess science. a photo had designed as eddie was senior pillow technology at the most fast. usually a stop or because the guilty po cadjew may sound saw body,
i suppose. so you regret e and more so now the caliber saw, it is now kelly, mommy with new should be 0. diego put a cheney to joy is based in sao paolo don't often get to the court officers these days because of concrete today, they're watching from pre news apartment. and so you were over there just land the from workplace, so you could show you some road. yeah, sure, yeah. brianna, he told me about a hearing. he dealt with the day before. what's going on here. turned in this hearing from my cellphone, cuz the internet was not good. oh gosh, the prosecutor, the defendant and myself and the judge is not here. normally the judge would be who would be here as well, but i also had a problem with his equipment and the camera was not working. the defendant, who is in prison, had been waiting for a decision on his case for 9 months. at the end of this hearing,
he was sentenced to 6. he hasn't 8 months in jail. by an invisible judge. he was convicted. i could judge that we can't see by the judge that we can see. bruno is caught, diego is a defense lawyer in initial custody hearings, he told us the importance of face to face contact with defendants was underlined when he was brief, he able to see them in his court office. he took fate, is that the abuse people say they'd suffered and they'd been arrested. what did he say toys? if that was what martha warranty was, is what he said, no, apple will as you to boys. are he from markers really like, obviously, and frolic deputies, a bizarre. let's look a basic them. he's lucky for him. caught up quick hold up. won't show it will. but ask you about the bill of police or is it for a live out of there was without act, universe for snuck abuse of this is a good you do. diego described when particularly horrific incident is always base. what is happening doing the same day?
so any follicular quicker, drought per circuit, your luck was honestly sucking, suck button hobbies. ah, let me ask the g as a joe. what he said should all garbage masula political back to the one of the people i massa phone said an awful baths on cerebral barson city for a group of human rights activists. deeply alarmed by reports of police brutality across brazil and the failure of online hearings to address it, produced a video called torture cannot be seen on tv. to mothers involved in the campaign explained how it began. at last he did do it, his name. it though it is, the viola felicity date is may. so body of god was man. if they saw us, he is stillness. that if yes, then i said on a spit, if it is a known to bed, it's very 1st we the come. wow. so ma'am. so minded trace feverish name. so ne them
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are you at the end of things you dummy with the statement to people in power? brazil national council of justice told us virtual hearings held because it could, it were conducted in accordance with rules which guarantee the rights the arrested person and that some face to face herrings were being gradually re introduced. but critics fear that virtual hearings justified by cove. it will become permanent as inside because he gas the key faith, that vehicle is assumed, which is a common told to keep which got into a quiet community to live and thought it was he a sound, g, hippos, enough my are his fail man because the suffice in the she mental was the visor either we'll ask you my or his say, well, quantile g so right that money say better. ah, the capital of mexico, a country where according to one estimate,
as many as 80 percent of hearings have been held virtually during the pandemic. outside the headquarters of the public defense team. lawyers in hazmat suit, dispense legal advice, an old fashioned way, face to face and inside lawyers, elder hernandez and jessica. he guerra a setting about their morning's work and dealing with an online system that frequently fails them. elvia multi tasks, she's put on hold, trying to track down a defendant. meanwhile, jessica gets the y fi sorted. they come in therapy, some problem on my phone and it was a, the feature that goes on to call up when he could do it up. or can you come in this monday, killing them a little while not to him, but at the connection, the connection is in particular one on the needle,
a castles on the temple silverado. she has 4 or 5 years and i've got her new canal internet thing going over present those quinta inn yet, and what was the and she has on there was those presented we catch up with the following day this morning and online hearing involve 7 imprison defendants each with a red lawyer plus 3 witnesses and it doesn't help that nobody seems to have the right link. they wouldn't when at wendy, at least cooper. today we're going to go back and listen, show them in, in. if you do like it didn't go now. but i would say order in know, and then we can in electric and monday we're not allowed to record this natural hearing, which in the circumstances becomes academic witnesses did show louis can't connect . the entire process grinds to a halt and the hearings pe spend. but despite the technical problems,
leila maris director here does see potential advantages to online justice, croquet in bicycle mom. he can always skin that ali, saddle up a little belly, or let us push that as you see frontier. no, no, no. well, my husband that has glass is good now the interior of the well, the boy is concierge than my horn only. must fussy monona will now be in seattle, but it's safe schools. girls be seen those in dublin, vice mexico and norma. and thumbs is a they met was a yes and a little bit of blaming the scene, been at louise at the espresso musket on and bullied by his is, is when megan, i know part of me that a so said yet b m was the last with that has must glad us giving you he bisman that has a was it force was lucky is im go more the woman that he go more because while he sat a gas, was it brutal? honestly olivas from an leading justice angio. they're all some hearings that should only be carried out in person. lemme yet less alliances and method up in
ireland. may he glenfield chant ireland, the 14th to san san, though the ins has be glad to establish, see those emperor the carlos ceiling. am info. so would i get the pl deleon's his see there and said with well, is it get the boiler of the ants? yes, absolute them. and then no they would say to we have done is than him was glad. ok . the answer has come. we'll owe the answer. contra live then yawn all the answers unless get here, see this or alleviate that the last person as know, they haven't said these doilies and during our enquiries here, we heard about another seemingly key component of the justice system, the significance of human contact. all people seem differently when justice is behind screens. numbers, so now then through the whole process, so i blend door but for now, but for now i get one with animals. i'll yank a stab landlord as him naca and doses, which of us boys said the glendon to steegal. he placed thoroughly until now. okay . yeah. christmas i went to there's a book, another study in dallas office. when the, when was the last person i said the focus is me to my seek that i had
e up the nan look at amos a look at his animals. they want to steal, to which hearings should be on line and which face to face. we met up with judge martino trailer, you deals with juveniles youngsters. you can enter the criminal justice system from the age of 12, with potentially dramatic consequences for the rest of their lives. they job refusal law audience. yeah, we've got our crime scene embargo e electric tease yahoo and needed a seabrook on which a board killer can be in the mass. l cold kid, locally convening mass. easy la can be in a mass always this is selena. look going for that of mass is less potential village as you get. i got a decent toll of it. it took dental illness into school. mother who is most
complicated. but on the federals level, the indian you forget, i was just the name of berlin mother going to be that i was is i, you know, your dora sevalla, my fiancee of, i love the all the good old dental script buffy. and cm, we just put a little bit of it for doodle. the future you think it's the future as of who to it's reckoned digital cold. so now operational in one way or another across 5 continents. and despite the questions raised, the arguments for make justice are clear, it could reduce caught backlogs, improve efficiency, increase access to justice. you can brazil, i mean, they put a pattern of millions of cases. and what people languishing in pre trial detention for years. surely one view would be that online hearings are a way out of that mass to get rid of this pat, help to get people front recording some way. my answer to that is, what are they charged with? did they need to be in prison?
or we, oh, are they overly using pre trial detention? let's not use the availability of technology to perpetuate a broken system. and we shouldn't be using the criminal law as indiscriminately as we do. but we use it instead for all kinds of offences. and people don't need to be in prison for those things. and that's really what cobit has done. it has exposed the pre existing problems in our, in our criminal legal systems. ah, not only you in a way that they've not been exposed before, but his actually made them quite a bit worse. and, ah, the danger that we faced now is that these, the remote proceedings which may have been arguably essential for a limited period of time. and for limited purposes during coven will be regularized . and that might yet be the big question in the controversy about remote
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