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does remain about possible violations of the electoral process. people here say there is no real determines mechanism to prevent the irregularities and has been lebron on political parties. have recently been held accountable for their actions . there is little hope that this time will be different, or some sort of r o g 0 battle and can find much more on our web site where there is a section dedicated to sharing a barclay on her life and the global reaction to her death. the address that is al jazeera dot com ah, this is out there, and these are the top stories of their journals, sharina booklet, has been laid to rest and occupied east jerusalem. 3 days after she was shot and killed by israeli forces, thousands gathered for her funeral on friday screens funeral procession was disrupted when israeli horses attacked mourners carrying her casket. a strong,
wide spread condemnation admitted response from the u. s. around con is near the hospital, where is where the forces attacked the moonies. there's only really one word that anybody is using. certainly palestinian is using amazon, devastated, devastated. those sharina black layers of fuel was not a dignified one. that it was actually a fraught with violence from the israeli forces. those pictures that we've seen are from the hospital not far away from where i'm standing right now. just stop by hill over there. where are mourners? the pall bearers were actually attacked as they carried sharon's casket out into the court yard of the hostile them where she left the hospital. at that stage, they were in the courtyard, and these really voices moved and g, 7 foreign ministers, armies in for a final day in northern germany, ukraine's representative has been holding talks, discuss further action to help give an increased pressure on moscow ease. foreign
policy chief announced to further $520000000.00 in military aid. turkish president, ridge of type ottawa on says he opposes sweden and finland joining nato because they host what he calls terrorist organizations. he made the comment a day after fin and said it would apply to join the block in sweden said it may follow suit. turkey is criticized to european countries in the past for how they handle organizations like the kurdish p k k. and the y p g at least 27 people have died at a fire that broke out in a building in india's capital city. police in new delhi say more than 40 people are in hospital. dozens of others have be rescued. they started on the 1st floor of the building, which mostly contains offices. as the headlines, i'll have another update for you here on al jazeera right after inside story, seen about 25 minutes a by. how and why did susan become so obsessed with this law?
we were giving them a tool to hold for corrupt individuals and human rights abusers accountable. they're going to rip this deal apart if they take the white house, the point 25. what is the world hearing when we're talking about why american today we take on us politics and society? that's the bottom line. after killing al jazeera journalist sharing a block layer, these wiley, army beats warners during her funeral. as she is lad aroused, how can palestinians use her death to highlight israel's choir? and can they win the battle for global public opinion? this is inside story. ah hello and welcome to the program. i am hashem. aha, barbara. a funeral has been held at
a roman catholic church in the occupied east. jerusalem for veteran al jazeera journalist, stood in a burglar. she was killed by his rally. forces on wednesday should, in was buried next to the grave of her parents of the mount zion protestant cemetery. she was shot in the hat in the occupied west bank while covering braids by his ready soldiers in janine. but before the funeral service is waiting for, says attack those carrying her body. the mourners struggle to hold on to her coffin and is ready. so just charged them while they were trying to bring it from a hospital to the hearse. the day before her body had been taken to ramallah, where state memorial was held for her. are the presidential compound israeli forces have carried out more ways in janine in the occupied west bank? why should we killed? several people have been injured. israel has been carrying out near daily rates
since march, with dozens killed and arrested during the operations. it says it's actions are responds to palestinian attacks. ah, lettering in our guests from occupied east jerusalem minear no sabres, a professor of international law at what's university from turn is francesca albanese is your you and special repertoire on the occupied palestinian territory. an affiliate scholar of georgetown university and from tel aviv i gave l. dar is a political analyst and contributor for these rally newspaper her. it's welcome to the program or more near. now that sharina black la has been led to rast, the al jazeera channel, the e u, the policy and authority, the united nations continue to say that those who killed her must be held accountable. do you see that happening anytime soon?
i have to be optimistic despite the fact that i'm genuinely not optimistic that history has shown us that many crimes that have taken place in the occupied athenian territory. i have not been that the perpetrators have not been held accountable so far. and this is the sad that he entity and this is because of a continuous, unlimited support for it and from its friends and partners who might sometimes get the size for some of the actions that is that i conduct. but at the same time shield is that i and from any sanctions, as well as a friend from supporting palestine, it's an attempt to seek justice at the international criminal court nonetheless. and i have to continue to be optimistic on the human rights defender, where we are working continuously on documenting human rights violations, analyzing these human rights violations, according to international law. and speaking to the international community,
asking it to intervene in the way that they wouldn't that have been in any other situation. i mean we, we can see how the western countries have interacted now with the invasion of ukraine. and they have done that, you know, they have conducted sanctions and they're taking a lot of measures in order to convince russia to step back from this invasion. and this makes sense. and the same should be implemented also in palestine. ok, and of course, yes, let me go to francesca. now, after the outpouring, if emotions from palestinians, barley is behind the need to start a genuine investigation into what happened to city and a block land tackle the need for putting an end to impunity is where this is something that has been caused by international human rights organizations, do you have any plan to address both issues here? why it's violations targeting of policy and journalist and impunity?
oh yes, you need 1st let, let me put in context this key because i think this is also part of my, of my work on the key and wounding and meaning of choice is far more widespread in the series of human rights violations that take place. you know, to palestine, there are 20 journalists who have been killed. hundreds injured over the past. the past the 2025 years. and the level of accountability is very poor. so in these ads on the level on community for the way spread, the targeting civilians in general. and you know, this is what i investigate what i will investigate on a regular basis. and what i, what i wish to add is that this level, while it is part and parcel,
or even avoidable, is part and parcel of your patient very need to do to patient. he takes a lot of abuse and violence to keep the population of palestine without rights and subjugated. and yes, of course i'm looking to eat as part of my mandate, including a how the vital role of the journalist is undermined. especially at the moment. where is ray and palestinian civil society voices are targeted with increasing repressions and there is no way otherwise to understand the reality on the ground. if no one talks about that talks about that. ok, how would you characterize the way these? right? a government has been handling the aftermath of the killing of children of walker
and the international backlash. well, i think i think that the both sides cynically taking advantage of this tragedy. she really is bad. i knew her personally. i admired her work and i'm very upset that the president of the senior so if the margin was deaf to blame it on israel befall is rarely even started. the inquiry on the other hand is when i was rushing to blame it on the terrorists. i think that if she really more not famous journalist and the international community follow this event closely, i think that she would, we added to a long list of fatalities that were said before part of the
a few patients. i believe that you know, time, your hero, israeli, blaming the international community for devin standards. i just checked, and i'm sure that this will be mentioned that the, in the last 2 months for teaming journalists were killed in the ukraine, the wall. and do you know their names? this is what they will ask. you know, you don't. so it's part of the m p. 's wally, be the as anti semitism and so on. on the other hand, a member of news lately, kevin, who was the spokesman over the army, not one try a coach for an independent investigation because he said, that is my last it's credibility. in such occasions, francesca, as an expert in international law working for the n is the un dealing now with your mandate is about documenting human rights by she's addressing
them in the policy occupied territory. give us a sense about how to move forward. what are the tools that you have to bring about the case and what, how will you be handling it as far as these way the government is concerned, because they seem to be very much now in denial about and irresponsibility. i look, i think it doesn't matter if they are in denial or not. i think i agree with what has been said that the pressure because of the shooting was the pressure on the concerned parties. israel is very high at the moment, so it's all expected. it will extend it's school ration, 20 independent investigation. i don't think that you should be in the lead of this investigation for one simple reason because what is needed is independence. transparency rieger that
so far these re, your investigative system has shown store to police shortfall in the justice system. in general, israel has been confirmed, but the reason a decision is supreme court on the case on a yeah, is, i'm sorry to say part and parcel of the money and policy deal to pay. so what is to happen is that independent experts are given the possibility to investigate and then you form the investigation of the overall situation or style that he's being carried out by the i c. c, prosecutor, a which we don't know much yet. but what i can tell when it concerns,
as you concerns journalist, just recently international federation of georgia, journalists as meeting a formal complaint to the cord on the name of the name of for journalists with together with the bombing of to be your power for, for a prom investigation. so this is the, in the course of action, their tiny hope. well, we'll see money. do you see this as a moment to bring about the issue of the killing of manager odyssey and journalists over the last few years and by the senior authorities saying that they are adamant about the need to take the kind of an issue in a bach letter the international criminal court. well it's, it's very important that at the end of the day, the international committee court fixed its responsibility on the case of city. and we have been waiting now for
a long time for the international criminal court to intervene in the way that it is supposed to intervene. and now it has confirmed that testers fiction. and we expect the international committee court to start taking action. and, but also it's very important to say that is that it has been over the years not cooperating with different human rights and operations that are ongoing by, for example, the united nations, the procedures and all the like. for example, all the special report tools of the pipe been a city and 30 or like a your guests or professor bonanza and have not been allowed to enter palestine. and, and this is something that has to change if it has any claim of seeking a truth, then they have to allow that independent experts like head on or to like that. and then in the commission of inquiry that was founded last year, whether not admissions,
they should be allowed to enter. they should be allowed to meet with civil society . they should be allowed to investigate on their own and find evidence. but unfortunately, over the years we have been seeing that it has like every possible and you and procedure that seeks to find truth or seeks to find justice and at the same time. what is very unfortunate is that many of the states in the word for a good example of that of be annuity. and they're not that king them, they're not to states and others are boycotting item 7, which is an item in the human rights council. and meetings and sessions in geneva with that issue of but a stand is being discussed at 3 times a year. and they are marketing it. and this is very sad while they might condemned in some cases or austin is about his actions. and they are acting in the international adena in a very different way. all right, that does not consist with that words akiva or you guess somehow
a sense that these ready government is more concerned about not losing the payoff wool. as far as the aftermath of the kiddo see that i walk let is concerned because from day one they said no, it's not us that they said we blame it on these right. if i to the body city and fight is now they seem to be somehow backtracking, seeing that we're investigating a case where the fire may have come from is where the soldiers yeah, and the good news is that unlike the previous governments had to buy an attorney now and there radically light. now we have a loosening party or when so of ours who is still a member of the coalition as well as the merits and the labor party and the prime minister been it has to take them into consideration. and like with a mr. knox, mankind, the minister that i mentioned before, he's
a member of the labor party. so they have to look into this from a political angle. on the other hand, if they will allow an impulsion investigation by independent inquiry. like if you remember what happened was which goes on in 2009 when he was born quoted by israel . and then he regretted that the minute. yeah, he was tempted to join this community, had this committee. so i believe that at the end of the day, a mutually investigation is not possible joined israeli by the senior investigation because just imagine do really expect to and now on the scene in to interview israeli soldiers. on the other hand, the israeli members of the committee will interview members of the come on the day consider hours. so yes is while is more concerned about p
r. then before is what i'm now has to take into consideration. also, its relationship was cut towel truck was playing the major role in. try to quiet garza and the mosque and be around a cold. so enzyme has got something to lose. on the other hand, we don't see functionals here as well, is enjoying complete impunity. and in the best case, even if it's very soldiers will be found accountable for this, there will be a disciplinary process. i remember that when i did this kind of inquiries, it ended up with almost nothing. they will say that this is a war zone, and they generally are well part of the whole game and they played a price other civilians. ok francesca, you've just heard what
a clever husband saying, and when you look at it, the potential for army generals will prosecute their own soldiers. for the case of a shilling, a block law, our will is slim here. and the u. s. the e u. the u. k, generally speaking, have done their best to shelve any united nations report about human rights violations in the policy and occupy a territory. so the outcome looks somber in a way or another. yes, i see that argument and i also agree with that. you know, the problem is addressing the root cause of the situation. there are 2 things to, to comments. i like to make here on the one hand. and the case of shearing must investigated, as we have said, independently. on the other hand,
the piece is teaching a lesson violence on an impunity only brings to violence a. so in abuse, we need to zoom out from, from the specificity of the situation. and i really encourage the actors, you know, the political actors, you mentioned to stop using an ad hoc, an emergency you many time in wrestling when approaching the mission of palestine. the situation occupied palestine is not that emergency if, if, unless we understand it as a man made one except political reality dominated by one spread abuses and violence that requires a huge and political action starting with the dismantlement of you patient. and the 2nd inter class,
i see no other way to go to get out of the passage then discussing how to fish. ok and why are just running in circle we're, we do understand the reason why there's this squabble over the semantics of the investigation. but don't you see that ultimately, if you have is rarely experts, a law with policy in experts with an oversight from the united nations, the u. s. that could be the ideal outcome? i don't see the reason why this is needed and isn't it knows who shook the bullet already and it has the capacity just in the same way that we see that is that it has the capacity to find any palestinian they want. if they even posted something on facebook, or if they added a weapon or whatever, and they would go into it. but as the indian cities and villages in order to edit them and prosecute them at regardless of any difficulties and obstacles in their
way. why is this? is that a intelligence not intelligent enough to find their own and criminals and why? when they find these criminals, they don't prosecute them? it's because of the original problem. it's because of the way the system is built, the system is built to protect. it's put additions to protect its military men and that to make sure that they are not prosecuted because see is human rights organizations? ab athenian is that i really and international have concluded that this is an apartheid regime. and that it is actually and dominating the palestinians, and it is creating and organizing its legal system in a way engineering could sneak a system in a way that would eventually make sure that the palestinians are kept dominated.
actually, we could see this in the way that funeral was handed today, and the police was just running after people and, and hitting people with, with this fix the people who are actually carrying that the coffin of the monster. and it's part of their donation. they want to show us that they are in control, that people cannot express their feelings, they cannot express that anger. they cannot get it indian flag and they cannot at be sat in the way that they want to be said. okay, so this is, this is, that is him and that is the problem with that. his iep is actually its laws and its legal system and its court. and this is something that has been concluded. so, okay, want to find justice. sure, they can do it immediately. less or forward we have to have very few other issues to tackle here. akiva, do you think that the very nature of these rarely governing coalition is one of the reasons that will decide the outcome of what happens next? because the prime minister is,
will be much concerned about give an indication that a concession to the palestinians about it in a black la could be seen as a sign of wickedness. absolutely. his is hands are dyed one hand by members of his own faulty yamida who are threatening to bring down the coalition to government. and as i mentioned before, by the muslim party, a by months to a boss, actually my would have us is not part of this game. they don't take him into consideration. but i think that the context of these where he's see this event is that it happened few days after 3 israelis were killed, were butchered civilians, innocent bye to put a scene in youngster, probably coming from jenny. so i'm not going to justify what happened in jenny
and the killing of assuring, but trying to analyze the israeli point of view. if you do a public fall, if bennett already is doing it, what it will find out that these res care more about the threat of terrorism coming mainly form of your g for the janine refugee k. then what happened to hearing on this is very unfortunate because this is a vicious circle that is not going to answer. i don't, i'm really afraid. frontier have less than a minute. these righty, governments made it clear when your name was 1st presented to take over the post of the united nations oper tool for the policy occupy territory accusing you of being a biased person. the americans, as we said, and along with the internet, with some key players,
the europeans and the u. k. have always been very skeptical about the reports over a human rights council. how, how are you planning to move forward? let me, let me share a consideration. i have on the momentous reality we are leading also because of the tragic word that it's taking place in ukraine. in this situation it's giving me a sense of hope in the fact that in this country, like those who have criticized the human rights counselors a say i can 7 of the human rights counselors are getting is well will. it gives me the sense that this country still believe that, you know, in an international order premier support international law. because at the moment everyone is an expert about the human rights and international mind. i am not being violated in your brain. i see an incredible blind disconnect between,
between these arguments. these are holding. thank you. rightly so the international law to palestine, so i eventually boils down to, to political will be my whole course. what i say, what i say is basically it based on international humanitarian law. enforcement to really to be child. that's not my intention will have to live with a k valdez francesca, but as a one year, no say, but i really appreciate you as i thank you and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside. or you can also join the conversation on twitter. i would 100 is at a j inside 40 from the house a lot about the entire team here in doha bye. for now with
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