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me debate ever visited algeria. i, on his agenda, opening the border between the 2 countries. people your say that would also open opportunities and help the local economy, the aluminum essay, as we have made numerous efforts to open the border with algeria by putting pressure on our government opening. it wouldn't just benefit adamus, all of libya would benefit you. we have both governments open the border soon, about 7 kilometers from the center of the down myth. deep in the desert. this mountain that were standing upon is called the wrath ellwood. which translated means head of the ghost. visible by the naked eye. you can see both the borders of tunisia, and algeria, both countries have said they want to re opened the border. but for now, people here can only wait and hope their lives will soon get better.
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sri is conservative, coalition has been voted out of office after nearly a decade in power with a labor government put climate change of the forefront and how with tackle china's growing influence in the pacific misses inside story. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm hashem alcala, australia has seen unprecedented bush fires and flooding in recent years. the extreme weather has brought climate change to the top of the voters, are gender, and greens and climate focused independence made big gains. in saturday's election of the expense of the conservative coalition, australia is a major export of fossil fuels, and the outgoing government often objected to plans to reduce greenhouse emissions
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. neighboring pacific island say australia is blocking action even as their territories are under threat of sinking. uneasy ties with the island nations are spilling into security as concerns mount in australia and the us about china as a recent deal with the solomon islands. we're bringing in august shortly. first. this report from sarah clark in sydney, day one in the nation's top job. and anthony albanese is promised unity and optimism to a strength in voting. he'll hit the ground running, boarding a flight to tokyo on monday for his 1st official meeting as a nation's leader. obviously, the quad latest meeting is an absolute priority for strategy. and it is, it enables us to send a message to the world that way. there is a change of government. there will be some change in policy, particularly with regard to climate change in our engagement with the world on
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those issues. the selection race was run on personality over policy. powerful swings let the conservative coalition party, without the numbers to hold on to government. as voters drove the liberals out of ki marginal states, they are going prime minister returned to his church, conceding his party, misjudged the electorate. you've given us with right foundation when we can walk what has been a very difficult walk. i got to tell you how to the last, almost 4 years boxer at the last election. ready and wayne really understood that it was for such a time as this. and now we both know it was for such a time as dan, new to parliament, or at least 9 high profile female independence. the group campaigned for more action on climate change. how and legislating a federal integrity commission to investigate political corruption that appealed to
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voters who abandoned candidates from scott morrison's party in blue ribbon seats globally to fit the independent fucking through china and a step forward and for the environment. i feel like maybe now's the time for us to do something different, and if we can get action or climate change, they're not going to be quite excited. this election has seen a seismic shift in australia's political landscape. not only is there a new group of independence, demanding greater action on climate change, the grains party is also having it, as their best result, ever with dramatic, dines in both the lower and the upper house. the postal vote is still being countered and some seats remain undecided that the labor party has about to get down to business with more united approach to federal politics. sarah clark, al jazeera seeking. ah, let's bring in, i guess they're all joining us from australia encumbered carlisle fire emeritus
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professor at the university of new south wales and director of fire consultancy in melbourne. anna scott beck, seo climate work center in won't go. gregory mil of it's professor of history and politics of the university of on go welcome to the program. carline, often times climate change is an issue that would be relegated to the backbone of an election campaign except for this time. it has become the size if, why? well, as your lead in said, straight experience, bush fires as part of the globe. and we have a very active community here that understands the need to, to confront climate change. i myself participated in 2007 in a study by the u. s. government on $36.00 countries of interest in my particular area, southeast asia, sea level rise, which is,
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will affect the pacific and southeast asia was seen. temperature will change, affecting crops, it will affect it. infestation by insects. so all across the board is suppressing exit central issue. and we watch the major powers equivocate as they attend international conferences and particularly the morrison government. and so the reaction by getting the greens in queens on getting these independence have been to pick up the mantle and say the major powers have failed us and are the major power . both the opposition and the government have lost a substantial role from the support that i know what, what does the shift in climate policy mean for the labor party or the new prime minister? are we likely to see less investments in fossil fuels or cutting emissions, becoming a top priority? well, yes, being coming government does have
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a higher ambition for its climate policy than the previous government. both parties are committed to the net goal for 2015 and the incoming government has a higher target for 2030. but interestingly, that target is not as high as the large business group, such as a business count for strategy or, and other groups have government guy and it is certainly not as high as what would align strategy with the parents agreement. goals are well below 2 degree been one and a half degree. and so the greater than the independent candidates will be coming government to raise it them mission for the emission reductions to be achieved in the next decade. there are also substantial for investments in transmission and gene restructure and other policies to increase action from industry and electric vehicles. and so there is an increased policy agenda from the incoming government.
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greg, saying that the country's going to take you direction is one thing, but do you expect any sort of backlash from the businesses which are historically centered around the very basic fossil fuel one would expect there will be, you know, at the current point of time, strain call exports to doing extremely well, of course, because of the situation in the pride in russia, there is a great demand of the world for call in various places. and this is because there's a shortage of, of some of both gas and call. so in some ways of the current economic circumstance. no. strayer is very much being held up by both call and gas and explore salon all ok,
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carlisle for the time being we have to wait and see whether the the labor will have the majority in the parliament. but in case we end up having a hunk parliament, how do you see a policy is being shaped? do you think he would have to reach out to other parties to be able to deliver what his promises? well, the labor government has. instead, we'll have to see if they can maintain it, that they're not going to enter into into deals with parties. they're sitting on at the moment, 71 projection to have a majority. but if they haven't, depending on the size, i need 100. sorry, the $76.00 seats, their independence and i talking about david polk off from here and camera, or negotiating with the greens which would then create difficulties for the government, particularly as they demanded the season cabinet. ida, quite fascinating. the way climate 200 and the but if you don't know who stepped in providing massive support for the independence are changing the political landscape
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in australia. are we moving towards the direction where climate change is going to be the top priority for the political establishment? only one child is that the community had an ad moved ahead of perhaps, where the mainstream politics was. and the mainstream policies has, has, has been a bit of quite divisive debate decade in a strategy. and the kept the deal and they be independent. the voices of movement have been funded by some large don't bottle thousands of small diners, but also business has moved ahead and a strategy or is an economy that certainly you can fuck the fuels at the moment, but also even open economy with, with a very large financial investment and international outlook. and so we, we are very plugged into the trends of the shareholders in the institute investment
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community internationally. and so does are expecting rapid decapitation for the safety of their investment portfolios over the long term. and so that has begun to significantly shift stride in business and industry and the financial sector who has begun to make their own commitments and begin to make preparations. and there are many in the community, and it's been shined by the teal independence and the increasing the grain by that that are expecting, extravagant, business and government to do more. and i think the vote today has that has reflected that the community and industry have moved forward during the day that the political debate was quite stock. and this is perhaps a catching up recognition of that becoming more visible. greg meditech ways from the outcome of the elections. one of them is particularly the the fact that the
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conservative coalition has suffered may just set back in urban areas. are we likely to see both of them reinventing themselves or changing the way the balance of power has always been maintained between these 2 key players? i think that what's happened, we have to understand that the tail candidates all got up in very wealthy and affluent areas and in sydney, melbourne, and sydney and brisbin. it was the in a city areas that voted for either the grains or for the tails. and that in other parts of australia, for example, the national party, which represents large parts of the rural establishment, didn't lose a say it out of suburban areas. the liberal party did not lose many, many se. so what i suspect will will happen
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is there will be a political realignment, particularly with regard to the, the liberal party, because it'll have to decide whether it's worth while going back and trying to win back the states, or whether it will reinvent itself as a parties perhaps it's more focused on rural and regional and suburban carlisle. one of the most spectacular takeaways from these elections is this is the wise of the teal, the independence. is it an indication of people frustrated over the legacy of a conservative or a sense that australia now is determined about the need to move forward towards new directions? well, i think it's, it's a bit of both. i mean, one,
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the frustration with the existing parties. but i see it as a reaction to globalization and moves and other democracies kind of flare up like we've seen in the united states. and not that these are exact or, and hungry in parts of the united kingdom, where the old establish parties of are now being challenged and movements have international connections. they can raise issues particularly on climate change and have a great deal of authority and challenging political parties. and then you just add to the rising and pray inflation, skyrocketing prices for your petrol, and you have to satisfaction. and you mentioned the corruption, the mistreatment of women under the morrison governments in parliament, undermining the norms that they have. and even now today, the within the liberal party where they to conservative or to progressive is a kind of argument. and so this is playing out and i say to reaction both to the
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existing system. but i think in reflecting international trends in democracies for climate advocates in its sarabia, this could be a unique moment because you have the labors getting ground. gee, how the greens and you, how the teal independence, also making gang could be the moment for all of them to team out to be able to come up with a stronger policy as far as implementing climate policies are concerned. yes, all the ingredients are in place for that. in date, over a decade ago, when the last head of minority government, they were pro climate independence with the balance to power and various people. if you can, improvements in common policy. inaction will take him in some of which were appeal, but many of which are remaining today. institutions such as the grainy best bank cleaning hispanic population in arena with the shop in that parliament and are
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operating successfully and have been supported by, by, by government of both parties since. and so i think it is indeed an important moment, but also it's arriving at a time when the climate change opportunities and threat of visible to australians. so we've, you've already mentioned the fires and the fraud that have made climate change from or physically visible from the risk, but also the opportunity has become come up with the cost of renewable energy. and batteries has continued to full dramatically and the viability of these technologies have become better understood. and indeed the shift has begun in many state governments than in and in the energy system in the sector. but also the manufacturers who are currently part of the fossil fuel economy i recognize being that it is blessed with natural advantages to export 0 emissions energy and
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commodity using the results of that have to create great hydrogen or low emission mitchells and growth. and so many companies are beginning to invest substantially in preparing for the next chapter of a strategies economic part, which would be to global the mission economy. and engage the incoming prime minister, anthony navy said in his acceptance speech last night together, we can take advantage of the opportunity for a strategy to be a renewable energy superpower. and so understanding has become much more widespread in the last decade and all of those forces are coming together at this time. greg the liberals last because there is this prevailing sentiment across the country that they were somehow lag good when it comes to tackling and climate change issues and in denial. i would disagreements at you the liberal law for
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a whole range of reasons. the reasons western trails, i think were quite different to the rest of the country. they didn't do well in urban areas. there were things to do with cost of living. there were things to do with petrol prices. i don't think that you can port a single single cause on the elections across the country. for example, there was a swing towards the liberals in my name. so it, these things are far more complex and i was just because of climate change. so in this case, in this particular case, the last in urban areas that entail their song holes in rural areas, are we likely to see them reinventing themselves in the future in a way where they will have to redefine their core constituency and agenda to be able to maintain the support of the constituencies they still have. well,
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i think the liberal parties had been divided between 2 sections. the moderates and the conservatives. the last of the tales has actually decimated many of the modern faction element of the party. so it's got to decide, is it going to try and chase those seats cloud or is going to try to something else? ok. color. there's another legacy that the labor party will inherit, which is the strange relations with china. the, when in this election, what does it mean for the future relationship with china? the labor party has said is when they take off, as it's up to china, which is frozen ministerial context for several years now. to resend that policy and open up the possibilities of dialogue. the labor party doesn't have the baggage
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of the extreme rhetoric that we've heard during this election campaign. and so the person personalities do matter. chinese ambassador here and camber has held out possibilities of the kind of all the branch which is different from the, his predecessor, a warrior. so that the very fact that this a new government opens the possibility that there could be room for compromise. but labor is being very careful because as your introduction, our prime minister and i was just prime minister to be on monday, just blown off to the quad meeting. quad quad has this informal understanding of trying to contain or counter chinese influence. so the not gonna look well, i don't astray, that's going to give away the farm. if it's going to open relations with china, which isn't what the government will come under pressure for business to solve trade problems. but still, it's china that puts the tariffs on and doesn't hold ministerial contacts. so
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there's an opportunity for china because the parties are different. and we, we have to say, so i think it's with the morrison governments of the box themselves in a corner in a sense not necessarily of their own making and relations improved. and really the balls and chinese court can see an opportunity with the government. i know whichever path discover new government is going to take, it will have to look into into the relationship with which china and the impact of that relationship on the future. these particular, when it comes to climate change, do you think that the government, the government is going to be extremely delicate capital in whichever direction is going to take as far as the relationship with china concerned. we've seen in the past that in relation to a global agreements on climate change, they have engage, sat above the politics. we certainly saw that with the us and china and laid up to
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the previous major comment making where comes quite relevant for a strategy review. now, immediate se, dasia, region and, and pacific, and certainly, strategies relations with specific neighbors are, have been tested. g 2 has started stance on climate change action in the past. and the vulnerability of our neighbors in the pacific islands, to extreme climate, climate damage and their desire for wealthy nations, such as a strategy to reduce emissions much more rapidly to help secure the safety of nations in the columns in our, in our region. so they're out there are many nations instruct its region that are interested in the strategy. progress on comment. greg from 2018 with the australian government band. why we from the, from it's 5 g network, all the way to words,
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the pact between the chinese government on the sullivan islands about setting up what the sway is. fear could be a military base that could change geo geo politics of the region. are we likely to see this new government in australia take a past approach, particularly as the americans, the and the japanese remain pretty much concerned about china's growing influence in the region. and i think you should include india in that as well. that's why it's required. now a strategy or is i think it was compared to a flea on an elephant in comparison, our relationship with china. we sell a lot of things to china and li, perhaps we're trapped into selling too much. we import a lot of stuff from china. there's a definite, a definite,
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very strong connection economically. so you know, the, from a point of view of necessity, we have to have at least a workable relationship with china. but i think at the present time it is very difficult working with, with, with china simply simply because it's been flexing his muscles for the last 10 years or so. so it's, it's way that i'm deaf skeptical. actually, whether any government in australia actually has the sophistication to, to really deal with with, with the chinese government. i'm yet to be convinced that either side of politics is actually has that capability, especially the trade volume between the 2 nations,
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especially fall of this way. and exports are concerned, which we're spending of about something like a $104000000000.00 over the last see is this is going to be really taken into consideration for whatever decision they astray as we'll have to take for the time being polite via ana scopic and greg melvin a really appreciate your insight. thank you. thank you very much. and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page, thus facebook dot com forward slash ha inside soi. you can also join the conversation on twitter under his art a, james, i saw it from the hash amount about the entire team here in doha. i for know aah! from the out is there a london broker center to people in thoughtful conversation with no host and no
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