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shooting off and just i was raised in france. these are my grandparents. these are my parents, and this is mean fighting both isis and the 2nd of a 2 part mpeg tail of a remarkable family. the father, the son and the g. hi. cartoon al jazeera previously on bought once. any kind of implant problems with your voice. jack always said that he could go to my left, your house, and i told them to banding young me. how did you can be brought up?
so we had this camp out to get to know every one. and we went out there that night . he came and laid down with his feet at my head. he reached from a bell, started trying to unbuckle my pants. i'm just holding no. so i'm not into that's not my thing. my dad went to the chief police. we wanted a public admission of guilt. he was acquitted of all towards the boy scouts became response more than a minute. they knew what and who jack was. he shouldn't have been involved in scouting at all. he won that trial and went back to same away a i was my father had made a stand for me like dogs
a stand for him. i was always just asking for something that i had done wrong or fail to do like b by us until he was charming beating me. was it to get it was making me better because the, the equation, the attention that my father a nationally well, he always here, always told that he loved me on the phone. you know, he became a washer or had happened as a was over time. it was a beer, and it was
a house, a a so much for you. you don't appreciate it. anybody does for you as a you. so jack was have a super say you do whatever he tells you a is now he's doing anything for me to hear my dad say you do what he killed judy do you should appreciate with just the one i'd be proud of where you go with he started molest and
hayes when he was 10 years old. and i think that he had that kind of influence over him. police detective charles peck. it moved to look in the late ninety's. it wasn't long for jack walls. cute was attention. 3 weeks after being there and long oh, you know, us end up with this case of this, this, the sexual abuses. it's hard to say that, that i've had a case come up like this one in my career. how many boys do you think walls in it up abusing some were in the neighbourhood of 50. how many boys kelsey think you interviewed? i said over 50, my victim witness coordinator said it was closer to a 100 that we knew about. how could that stay secret for so long and such
a small place? the children, the young man told me they were afraid of the fame because of their power, wealth, and influence. i think that's the key words influence that he had on kids. i think that that is the key word of this whole thing. i had to hold my father back so or did you know i had a very not me down a big me and with me so long that i actually go myself hold who are you maybe a little jack indicate a well, you know that for us on that we had a sexual abuse and so there was no winning
situation. mm. you know, in a town of 4000 people, 50 boys as a lot of boys houses not know if something happened to me, would i tell somebody else about it? probably not. not it's 10 years old, or 15 years old. am i going to say something? probably not. and do you think the boy scouts as an organization? how would you describe their level of, of interest in of transparency and dealing with the jack was case. the boy scouts gave me nothing. i had requested information from the voice scouts myself. they never got back with me. i left a message on their phone, telling them what, who i was,
what i was doing. and they still didn't call me back. i joined the scouts of the child. i was asked like millions of others across america to commit to the scout law. a series of character traits said to define the good scout among them. trustworthiness, loyalty, obedience. these paintings by artist norman rockwell came to define that ideal image of the american boy scout an image. i grew up with an image of the boy scouts as incorruptible, synonymous, an american culture with unimpeachable honesty and innocence. the boy scouts are in the business of selling a, an image of wholesomeness safety, trustworthiness. the scout code attorney tim cars not as representing men who claim
to been abused as children by jack walls together. the taking the boy scouts of america to court for what they say is its responsibility and that abuse in many of our files. we see these perpetrators had a history that was known to the boy scouts for decades. walls was one of them. but we see this over and over and over again. for more than a century, the boy scouts of america have kept a growing list of files with the names of thousands of scouting volunteers. and staff accused a child sexual abuse including jack walls. but that information has not always been shared with authorities if it were to be publicly revealed that they had this dirty little secret that wasn't actually little at all, but was massive. what would that do to the faith and confidence of parents who are
considering whether to entrust their boys to the care of this system because there's secrets that they had a washer and the name of the boy scouts of america. so michael johnson was the director of youth protection at the boy scouts of america for more than a decade. if you look at it, the national headquarters professional talking about the very top, their interest, a line war with perpetrator scoutmasters, than they do with the victims and survivors. and these lawsuits the boy scouts have said that when they keep the information in their files confidential is to protect the privacy of victims. witnesses and falsely accused. the problem when any institution has that power or ability to investigate its own and maintain records on its own, tell me the institution where there has worked up to help victims of sexual des,
secrecy surrounding the and eligible volunteer falls benefits, no one except for the perpetrator. and those like the boy scouts of america that has interests, probably financial interests, civil interests, and that information not getting out. it was a machine that reinforced the code of secrecy, the code of silence. and that was absolutely not to protect the children. it was to protect the organization. the boy scouts is in fact the perfect petri dish for pet ophelia. the child is in a place where there are not other adults that they can call out to i and they are intimidated by the fact that this organization is so important. it's so valuable to the creation of character that nobody would believe them if they spoke out against the scoutmaster that sexually assaulting them. mm.
mm. the, the depth of his depravity was hard to imagine. it was in the military where i think he home some of his skills that he tried to teach scouts he had a munition and took that taught him to shoot, taught them to evade light sensors outside so they could start stalking people they didn't like or people did that, jack told him to me he did ask me to go on to recall. it's written on it
when she made it, hadn't been there route to couple it or when he would come pick me up to walk in the morning. take me a little bit, drop me off down the walk and have little scroll down to to see films. and this man who chose to remain anonymous claims he was sexually abused by his scout master. jack was a decade before the duck. open trial rears to grow. words grew to be sure to re shirts. beaver dams were going. the boy that was over for 2 years, expansion ship booked in fortran usual form. george played head gangs with the kids with a young man. you know,
i'm going to give you alcohol. i'm going to gives you pornographic literature. i'm your friend. i'm on teach you to hunt up. you know, i wanna teach you about sex. and then i'm gonna teach you to kill what, what did you hear about the brownie? cut my brake lines, fight me, kill my dad. anything to silence us and like us go away. and he encouraged them to come after you. i'm sure. have stocks? pretty much admitted it. the check put a bounty on you. yeah. yeah, he wanted us to follow up cletus hogan. what should old father and he all he had
was playing oak me away. now. i want a dog to carry cletus out user. no, i'm going to call gasoline. and when he wanted to light a fire washing bogged down they were told to kill doug and is dead by jack walls. but they never did, but they were supposed to do it. did you ever feel threatened? oh yes. oh i got threatened. oh yes, but i didn't, i don't know to send a letter. will letter say something about my office was sitting right by a window. something about sitting by that window. i wouldn't sit by that window so much. charles pickett received his threats as he was investigating the scope of the abuse committed by check walls. i imagine that must
been a shocking moment when your look in these cases. you find out one of the boys is heath stocks. are you like? what does that name sound familiar where you are expecting him to be involved in this? yes, but i had, i waited till at the end to go down to the interview. he because i knew that whatever he said is going to be tainted by the fact of the 3 murders. the night in january. do you guys have been to dinner? i think we went to a buffet in jacksonville and had a lovely time heath was the person that he had been when he was at his best. he was the ideal young man to be. he was personable,
he laughed he that but he came in, he visited, he said, i got to go back to class or got to do something. and he went, had left and was just the nicest. most players it in if you had a final memory, that's what you want to have with a relative. and then 2 o'clock in the morning they came and banged on the door, woke me up and said, joe barber and heather have been shot. 3 of them have been shot worse news. i think he might have told us he was going back to june, ark adelphia that night. and so i didn't, i may, we may leave and said, well does he know? the next thing i remember is being at the court house and them are telling us that they had arrested. he's pretty sorry.
dish is a free call from an inmate at and i think you're in unit. hey, josh, can you tell me about what happened in january 1997? i've been home to college. i have been home for several months ago. and i have been looking for a job. i have been able to fire war. so mom dad told jack over a short time after that a guy and then be sure i can add them all
can paul, how did you tell your mom and sister? do you remember the actual words you use a listing and i don't know what caused a you and i think it was the sharing and nothing happening. a realization that i like to lose him. the only source of affection acclimation and attention now was getting annual. it's so shameful to take that admission was rolled me to his house and making sure that i had hold my mom and
how did he react to that? it was most angry at ever saving. very angry, very racial, very. and usually i told me that i had a trade in that i had violated the secret that he loved me like a dog and i would ever be someone will do something like that. so he told me it was so was the problem was cause this problem, i need to fix the problem and i was like, it always has all new case, all the killer. now i know he used that logic was the moment they use the same logic with my family. and so i left and i didn't do what he told me to do. and so he showed up and he made me
i came home after going out to eat with my grandparents and houses that were, he's maintained jack was at his house and it staged it to look like a robbery. combat i, i can eat a part of it. i can die. a what happened next? a house, a baker leave? to go to get our line. i was thinking i was going to help her get out. jackson, the living room sitting on the couch. the car pull up the vehicle.
bob, dan, how long do you see her go to the kitchen on the living room. the lights out, she starts screaming a my dad turns around a get charter calling to make a shot. again. i'm standing there and i'll see daddy play down. there's law, there's heather, there's mom joe. barbara and other were all killed that night. who was? was it?
that is what it feel the baby baby feel like i was there with the next day in the interview with police, he never mentions to present to jack walls or the abuse in dirt. he confesses to having ransacked the house himself and shooting his father. 8, can you shoot your dan? they will have all of you mom, heather, i don't i do so he'll literally just shy with they get he why you're shooting her. oh, take you to lose. oh mm mm mm. mm. mm. mm mm. he stalks was 20 years old at the time of the murders. he serving
a sentence of life without parole for killing his parents and his sister. but he now maintains that he killed only his father that another firmer scout abused by jack walls, pulled the trigger on heather and barbara. ah, when you took the job, were you aware of the stocks family murders? yes. you. i knew about the joe in his wife and his inner and heather, anna. but when i found out about all of that, i knew that there was more to it and nobody ever really said why he did. nobody ever gave a mode of why he did this and i would ask that why did that? and nobody would ever tell me at the time of the stocks murders jack walters abuse
of the scouts alone. oak was still secret because while he was in jail in long oak, i called jack and said, you know, i know. yeah, we're really close. would you go down and talk, dave? you thought you're take care of you. yeah. yeah, i did. i and i think he told him that he would help me, i'll take care of it. so he really trusted jack in all situations and obviously was allowed to start with. he did so brainwash heath that he believed that jack loved him and that his father didn't, that jack would do anything for him. and he thought, when jack told him to kill his parents and his sister became involved and was also killed, that jack would get him out of jail. i was living in a world that was with mold in
and that is the biggest down and it tells us to do for me. i can help with the voice calls, jackie, done. this for decades, when i'm talking about something that happened a few years, he was able to use it as an associate of use cable for decades, bmw . oh, for over a century, american parents have entrusted their sons to the boy scouts of america, hoping they would gain skills that would improve their lives instead, countess young lives were ruined by predators within the organization. and there was so much, but i could not figure out where it was coming from me in a 3 part series, full plunge investigates,
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