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terrier sneezed to pull this up by the sill last soon as though so much at 1st. when he disappeared, we had his crazy hope that he was of bruno and it was a la la. he had been living there for many years. going to meet with indigenous tribes. we dealt with him. i thought it picked up on something and somehow wormed his way through the forest doing the 2 of them. but with a passage of time and the things we heard in the press is no longer any hope of human being among us. one of them, israel, that is, britons, queen elizabeth, the 2nd has become that the world's 2nd longest reigning, modern monarch, crowned in 1953. she is now overtaken, thailand's former king. will me go? andrea who reigned for 70 years and a 126 days until his death in 2016 france. as louis the 14th remains the longest ruling monarch he spent 72 years and a 110 days on the throne. from 1643 till 1750. ah,
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or one of the top stories on al jazeera, a bipartisan group of us senators has agreed on a framework for new gun control laws and at curbing rising gun violence. the proposals include title background checks for under 20 ones and funding to help the states create and administer red flag laws, which ensure weapons are kept out of the hands of dangerous individuals. resident joe biden has hail the proposals as important steps. mike, hannah is in washington d. c. he says the deal is regarded as a breakthrough but won't satisfy gun control. advocates no ban on automatic weapons . no raising of the age at which some one can buy a rifle from $18.00 to $21.00. ironically, for example, there is a federal ban on buying and guns under the age of $21.00. and yet an 18 year old can buy an automatic weapon, which was used in
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a number of the recent shootings. so this is not going to satisfy those who been arguing for more strict gun control. but as i said, it is a movement forward in terms of the fact that at least republicans and democrats, senators ought talking to each other on the issue manual. my cause coalition and it's left wing rival are neck and neck in the 1st round of french parliamentary elections. but projections suggest michael's ensemble or together alliance should win more seats a fresh from his re election as president my coin seeking to retain a national assembly. majority for his centrist coalition. if so, you'll be able to press ahead with planned reforms, but he faces competition from that left wing alliance led by john marshall, a russian state news agency. his shared video, it says, shows smoke rising from the chemical plant in the ukranian city of several genetics, where hundreds of people are thought to be sheltering. russian forces have also
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a history of activism is rooted in struggling against the fighting. now the born fee generation believe it is there time to fight for a more equal and justice society. welcome to generation change a global theories and attempts to challenge and understand the ideas and mobilize you around for world. i'm and the charlie, an independent journalist based here in johanna in this episode, we need to women who are working towards radical change to address challenges is very debt. database violence, cloth and racial inequality and climate change thing
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. mm. kids him, if you were born automated for at the end of apartheid, what do you think people don't know about the role of women in the struggle against the part? i really think the way in which history is told serves a purpose, right? which has also to reinforce, you know, a male dominated, a presence and power structure, right? basis, reinforcement of these marches, right? these men who come and save as vulnerable group of women which is inheritance the wrong and false women were organizing church, top self trade, union women, when the tv carrying the country back from shoulder history. continue to omit that . and i think what that does is that it continues to alienate women and their contributions and making society with a political social, even economic ah,
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we're here at concentration hill in johannesburg, and particularly in the structure we are at the women's jail. why it was a significant space for you when i think about the, the caliber a woman that we incarcerated in the case. you know, it literally just brings me in, or it's the persistence of women writing themselves into history even in the absence. right. and for me, as a young feminist, as a young actor was, that has been really pinnacle in grounding my own activism as a new generation. as a woke generation, we must never ever get tired of developing resistance strategies. i mean, if these women were able to organize themselves, i know probably one of the most difficult conditions. i see no reason why i'm able to achieve, you know, the idea of building the bigger feminist global movement. you are now 20 think he was an activist and he was 17. what was the sort of compelling
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fact? let me you think, you know, i want to be an activist. there was a case by go by the name of i mean poisons and western cape she was raped into, to kill any tree or she was like, oh my gosh, i'm 17. she's 17. she got killed on the lights out and i was thinking about all the times. i like to jump well, you know, to go out with my friends, what would happen to going to happen to meet those just so much unique was and similarity almost a decade later. and now i'm the, you know, the chair and found out of the black woman quote, because i can't afford it, the beach read little tangible solution. what ultimately black woman caucus seeks to do is to really create a society for violence. we don't want to live as violence. prisons, society, all the time. we want to be comfortable. i mean, i'm feeling like i want to be able to walk down the street. so johannesburg,
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and not worry about and my next in the you're 17 and you've already been an activist for a few years now. how did you start? and what was it that made you spot? so it all started in 2018 when we were taught to do some research on kind of change . i grew a lot of cabin and dieting theme or the facts about how we have limited time and watching my future fade away as the help of our environmental kinds and why they ignited my activism was the since i ti talked to everything in my power to create a change what i mean, some people will say that you know what? this stuff is for people who can afford to have 5 different been than recycled buds . you know, you've spoken to the fact that it does affect people whom, you know,
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live in the townships, poor people. for 1st time i came to realize the story behind environmental racism. when i spoke to a friend of mine who said when she was very young, she had to live with a grandmother, was stating. so when we say there, she develop breathing difficulties. and a few days when she moved back to the server, everything was fine. and that's when she made the link back to the equality in a way to was so terrible that she, they will pass on that. and you can make that link with a pulsate how to oppose the government basically. so that people in one area and indian people now the area and, and gave like people that land that belong to those citizens that they just areas. and even though we live in a post, a polity, south africa that neglect is still carried out.
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what has been rewarding and that you would consider big or small in achievement that you've been able to kind of get to with your with so far as inc wanted to win said to make a big impact on my life is when someone will come to me personally and say thank you for teaching me this. i've learned and now i know better. and now i can do better. i think the biggest achievements are also just making up appreciate a lot of activists around the world that has that and his mind. so being able to stand up in front of college and think your mind as well as the privilege and also the good children. when you, once again year people listening, you responding to come on an article fair at your 17 and keep them in your $26.00. i'm wondering for both of you what
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you feel be defining values and of each of your respective generations. activism. ok, so firstly i belong to the 1st cohort of the born fees, you know, the generation that was just born after democracy in south africa. and i think for a large, you know, to a large extent, our activism is really sensitive and crowded around, holding our democratic government accountable. right, hoping for a significant change in the living conditions of use and just the population more broadly. so we do borrow a lot from the enter party struggle in terms of the music, the songs kind of the struggle songs and you thing. and also some of the organizing and mobilizing strategies. you know, we're really still focus in terms of mass space movement building. and this is quite evident with the feasible for student properties across 26 institutions of higher learning, which saw university students demanding for free the colonized high education. but
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of course, you know, the success of moments such a season before last the attributed to digital and online activism and how that has also helped us in terms of shaping our own narrative, syria, you know, something about that, but what would you like to add? yeah, kinsey, we grew up in the age of technology, the world of social media, and that came with a lot of benefits in terms of with mobilizing people internationally. and especially now during append to make what social media is also brought is lots of inclusivity because you moving away from just that mainstream media narrative. and you embracing a diverse range of narratives and you getting to include so much more with the new activism. so i think the $270.00 that social media has brought has been a key and defining factor with gmc, so after the most recent use led to mass movement towards fisma school,
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which as you mentioned earlier, was the fight to, you know, gain wide access for free and d, colonized tissue education. what do you think it was about that movement? kitchenman. so that made it to resonate so widely with our generation. i think a big part of fees must fall beyond issues of ex is was really holding oh, government accountable. to say, to what extent are you prepared to sacrifice an upcoming generation of young leaders in active as purely on the basis of you know, keeping or being deliberate about keeping a commodified, a capitalist, a racist system that continues to marginalize and exclude black students. specifically from institutions of higher learning. there are you about 12 or 13 when this was unfolding on the news media? what did it mean for you on a personal level to see young people really, you know,
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rise up on such a mass scale. it was really inspiring, is watching history unfold, reg, for my eyes. and while i didn't understand how the, how complex the issue was back, then i understood the surface level of it. but diving into activism, the fees miss will activist, so one of the most inspiring activists that i look up to, to give you permission to be angry as well. yes. 100 percent. and like i said before, that anger just ignites a passion to stand up and fight kid to miss a your, as yet you should say, you are the found a, in fact, of the black women's caucus, which among the many mandates you have, is looking into eradicating genovese vitamins, can you talk to me about the myriad of violence? is that so african women right now are facing? i mean, when he speak about in obeys violence, of course, you know, the mostly needed understandings around sexual and physical forms of violence. you know, and this is, and this makes sense, i mean, south africa seen as
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a rape capital globally, not a pretty tight to have him by the way. our famous side rate is 5 times higher than the global average. right. and so our understanding around the balance and famous that has really been within that conceptual framework. however, as black women coke of we're saying that is it to serve as well as to reduce gena base violence and famous side to only physical and sexual forms of violence. you know, political violence, economic violence, environmental violence, social violence, all violence with that country, peach, the laundry facilities of women. and it's important that when we find solutions and we propose solutions that they must be multi problems and they must be sexual so that they're able to address the sources of violence. so can you give me an example of what that work looks like or how you bring the solution to the public? of course, a lot of the steps and research done in south africa around in the base islands has
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attributed to a women's economic participation as a message dr. among the ability to gender based violence and famous that so in 2019, on the 13th of september, when we march to the ritual square mile in africa and sent and demanding greater participation from privacy in terms of, you know, their response to the island were ultimately things you need to also be able to, you need to be held accountable for women's economic vulnerability. because largely when you think about drape and famous, i will always think about it within the confinement of the whole. right. but the moment we made the business issue in economic issue, we're ultimately saying that the continuous subjugation and violation of women number one cuts the south african economy between 20 and 40000000 read annually. right? and that also means that part of our activate, part of our mobilize ation and advocacy requires us to make structural changes.
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sarah, it looks like you had something 100 percent. it needs systemic change. if you just bringing change on one surface that's of his is widespread. and in order for structural change to take place and the most effective change, take those, it needs to be systemic and needs to be institutionalized. so already addressing every level of the problem, yes, 100 percent farrah. you started climate warriors and you're a part of the collective movement. tell me what collective movement is and what would you do with them. so the collector women as a youth, lead intersection or climate group, and we aimed to achieve climate justice through social justice and vice versa. so it's a group of young activists, and recently i work has all been on social media and online because of the pandemic . so this year we working on climate change through a pattern african context. so interviewing or having discussions with activists
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from uganda and kenya, and just broadening our perspective on climate change and how policy making takes place in different areas around the world and different challenges and coming up with solutions. and then also spreading awareness and advocating and pushing forward the climate just as taught of movement to educators. many people on the climate change issue and exposing the intersectionality needed and bringing about inclusivity with in the climate justice movement. why do you think physically in the south african context that climb adjusters haven't taken a backseat to other issues such as, you know, the ones that good smithy and i were talking about? so i think in the past, obviously if you're looking at her pre democratic south africa where people are fighting against the appointed regime and fighting for liberation, climate change, understandably so, is going to take a back seat when you fighting to be free in your own country. but if you're looking
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at a post appointed south africa where we living in a democracy, i think there's a huge sense of apathy from those impala that firstly, the people in power putting profit before the people we living in. we stuck in this capitalist mindset. another issue is the climate literacy rates in south africa, extremely low, and that comes down to an educational issue. so apathy and the lack of climate literacy course. what do you think of the intersection between climate justice and the kinds of justice that you know, your work drives really interesting. hey, i really like the fact that you know, preaching climate justice and social justice. and i think for large, you know, for a long time we've thought about climate just as a stand alone kind of struggle. you know, it's like sitting in the corner and nobody really wants to deal with it. but what has been very important and has been quite a big eye opener for me myself as a, as
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a feminist, is the work has been doing informal settlements. and how, when you spoke about literacy, environmental literacy. how, you know, we still struggling to make the connections at community they will between the environment and social justice claim example. one of the communities that we work in is called customer parking. formal settlement for water and sanitation breakdown in infrastructure and just listening to you. i can already see, you know, how climate just fits into that, right. but i do believe that to a large extent, the climate justice movement has positioned itself as quite a white lead to movement, right? it has struggled to deal with the very concrete conditions that an ordinary person in south africa facing. but i think in a country like south africa, we need to be able to who's in crowd of ideology and our advocacy in the live
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experiences of people on a day to day basis. so what do you say to this climate change for the longest time? it has seemed like a very privileged issue. if i'm struggling to put food on my plate, why should i care about the quantity? why should i care about a little on the beach? and i think that come down to the needful climate, conscious media and was kind of conscious media inclusivity. so looking at climate change across the world. and also understanding that solutions that may work in the west on going to work in africa for various reasons. we have different economies, different policies, different governments, different histories, it just would fit. and i think was very vital when looking at climate justice and time. a change is looking at it through an intersection of native. so instead of separating environmental factors and the social factors, bridging them together could common justice and social justice,
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intrinsic teen linked together to bring about positive change by testing one. that solution is going to affect the other in either a positive or negative way, depending on what the solution is. so if you're looking at time to change geographically, climate change is going to disproportionately affect poorer black communities. so within your activism, you need to take within climate activism, you need to take into account classism, racism, sexism, homophobia. for example, if the natural disaster were to strike those communities would be most vulnerable. and if you look at the way society treats those communities now imagine how much was it's going to be when aid due to natural disaster is needed and needs to be brought to those communities. so advocating for human rights, you can pick and choose no form of oppression exists in isolation. i wonder what
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you both think, you know, the possibility of achieving your ideas and what a just world looks. what do you think the impact implications of capitalism has on the work that you do? get them is a what i'm picking up as said capitalism. inheritance lee, you know, glorifies the individual. it's limitations. however, in activism that activism is not a one man show. greg and unfortunately, capitalism has created and is continues to co opt civic action and civic and civic interventions and presents them as one man shows. right? we have this mod, so that comes out, you know, this, you know, the intended sensation that comes out and is going to save the world, you know, but i think what that does is that breaks down organic movement building strategies, right? i don't think we have any strong tangible movements that are being, you know, that are being nurtured,
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but instead what we're seeing with the individual acts of as rising and listen, i'm not saying it's a bad thing to have the popstars of a movement image. they're important, they keep the movement, funding dynamic, but i do think it's important that we lose our activism in communities because he's alternative realities every once. you know, the capitalist reality, that we want to send minutes into sectional reality that we want is not going to be fostered by an individual. it needs an active, you know, it needs from a collective in order to drive that mandate. and i think this is some of the critiques of capitalism infiltrating cervical activist work, you know, 100 percent community community based change is the most sustainable and effective change in the long. and if you're looking at capitalism in a capitalistic world, the most ideal position you can be in right now is to be a white man. and that breaks down so much, it breaks down the feminist movement and breaks down any movement laid by women.
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capitalism breeds the system of inequality. it's always going to be if i'm winning someone else's losing. and like you said, it's a very individual, a glorified individual work. and that is extremely problematic. it's also very problematic to have one face represent a home. and because it excludes people that don't match that face that don't match their demographic. so yeah, definitely not carbon capitalism is the main cause to climate crisis. sorry. can i just add onto that? you know, i mean, i'm reflecting, reflecting such an important aspect of growing and as active as we should never stop reflecting. and when i think about the 2 parties movement, firstly, i know for a fact that many people who participated in those movements in those forms of resistance were not participating because they were individuals that they were
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idolizing. it's because they felt a strong sense of, you know, personhood. i mean, the issue is affecting me directly. therefore i need to actively participate in finding the solutions. and i think you know, the idea of the glorifying of the individual grubs as of it. and i think our communities of, of the, to hold is grounded to hold that accountable and to make sure that we are working and living within the ideals of the, of the movements that we represent. well, i guess in closing, i'm curious if, if it's not clear so far what q both hope to achieve and if you feel optimistic about, you know, being able to actually achieve those things, keep them at the i will, perpetual optimist. firstly as a disclaimer. so i definitely do think things will get better. i do think that, you know, we need to intensify our demands and struggles,
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but also change on size of, of oppression and fighting. right. i think so many times you know, what activism and how we traditionally, you know, activism to be said, we take to the streets right to get our messages across. and although that is important, we also need to see some radical advancement and transformation in the policy in covenant cl, right? and so as black woman caucus, you know, at the heart of the solutions that we propose as a social movement, is the realization and strengthening of feminist movements, which are going to foster feminist leadership. we need to see an emergence of new radical feminist leaders. really shaping the world to where we want to take. good. right. and honestly be good. we've got the right energies. we've got the minds, we've got the hearts and ms do it sooner. oh i like i said earlier have climate anxiety. and the only thing i can thing on to that cameron's id is optimism towards
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the future. it drives me to constantly wake up and make the decision that this is what i'd like to change. and this is where, you know, that could be the change you want to see an advocate for the change that you'd like to see. so i think a main goal is to just get the same urgency that we're carrying today with sending that to the hearts of our government and our leadership to demand a climate emergency and to attack all of the social issues that we've unpacked today. because once again, social justice is climate justice and vice versa. so yeah, i think unification needs to take case like today, between the dick generations and just, you know, keep the energy, don't let it die. i feel going up with social media. you see activism turns into a trend and it reads a lot of performance of activism and every year and every month there's a new hash tag and something use trending and, and serve treating activism and social issues as
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