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fans came out here in new jersey right across the water from new york city to hear the announcement of which cities will get that honor. and they weren't disappointed because new york and the new jersey area count as one i, when one of those prestigious spots other cities in the united states include seattle, san francisco, los angeles, dallas, kansas city, atlanta, houston, boston, philadelphia, and miami and mexico, guadalajara mexico city. and monterey, and in canada, vancouver and toronto, now which of those cities will host the prestigious final match that has yet to be decided, it will be announced 2023. but i can tell you that officials here in the new york area are pushing hard for that on or with
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this is al jazeera, these are the top stories. well, al jazeera has obtained an image of the bullets used to kill this journalist schuman. i will actually last month, experts say it's deployed in an m for rifle, which is widely used by the israeli military. she really was shot in the head by israeli forces while on assignment and occupied west bank on the 11th of may. he was vice president mike pence, his life was in danger when riotous, attacked capitol hill last year. as, according to the u. s. congressional committee investigating the insurrection which took place after donald trump refused to accept defeat the 2020 election. former aides to pens, testified on thursday saying he was under intense pressure from trump not to certify joe biden's election when the former president wanted pants to reject the votes. and eva declared tromp the winner of san the votes. bear to the states to be counted again. my pen said no. he resisted the pressure.
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he knew it was the legal. he knew it was wrong. we are fortunate for mr. paines's courage. on january 6th, our democracy came dangerously close to catastrophe. the heads of for european countries visiting keith say they're in favor of ukraine. joining the e u. leaders of france, germany, italy, and romania met to president for them as lensky in a show of solidarity. police and brazil are working to identify human remains found in the amazon where an indigenous researcher and a british journalist went missing, investigator say, a suspect in custody has confessed to killing buena pereira and don't phillips and to burying them in the rain forest un is among global voices denouncing the murderer and calling for a full investigation to new z, as in maine, labor union has gone on strike, demanding an increase in, sorry,
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some concessions on looming economic reforms. up to $3000000.00 people are part of the powerful to his unit general labor union. thousands of its members held their value in the capital. tunis is the latest crisis putting pressure on the government at the present case side. last week, the government announced plans to cut its massive public wage bill and reduce some subsidies. well, those are the headlines is, continues here and i'll just here as after inside story, in just under a year's time kettles al date stadium will house. the opening match of the 2022 world cup. the official opening of the stadium came on day one of the arab cup, but many fans were already counting down to the big kickoff next november. see you back. those 1022 as this tournament unfolds over the coming days, it will play a key role. the organizes getting ready to host the middle east's biggest, ever exposing event next year and for the castle national teams, they get used to playing in front of expected home crowds lobby,
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hoping to convince both the fans and themselves that they really are ready to take on the wolf, the 100000000 people around the world are now displaced for violence, persecution and rights abuses are some of the main causes. but can this rising trend be reversed? and if so, how this is inside stored? ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm hammer, jim, john, more people than ever before, are being forcibly displaced around the world. and according to the un refugee agency, either we deal with the causes conflict, climate change, and persecution, to name just a few. or we begin accepting
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a world in which millions are displaced everywhere. right? now that figure is more than 100000000. the warren ukraine is worsening. the situation displacing more than 12000000 people in less than 4 months will bring in our guests at a moment. first, this report from charles stratford and keith julia and ludmilla escaped the russian bombardment of mary awful. on march the 19th, over the next few days, they risked their lives 3 times. driving back into the city breathing bullets shells and asked ranks in a desperate attempt to find the father of their family. 61 year old alexander phillip ankle. they fear he never made it out. so you should as we were driving. there were russians on one side, ukrainians on the other, and they were shooting, says, you live, you know, we were in the middle, it was terrifying. but we were determined to get dad and you know, the family used to live nearly as of steel, plumbed were an estimated,
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2500 ukrainian soldiers and civilians were trapped for weeks. as the fighting intensified, they fled to a basement under a block of plants in the city center. on the day they escaped, the shilling was intense and all exam that never made it from the basement to the waiting civilian car. so we were sure he knew we would come back for him, says the miller, and he would wait for us in the basement. our. a few days later they returned to where they had last seen. all examined the mother, we saw all the buildings were burns and destroyed with miller, and there was no one there. luke, mila, and newly. his story is not uncommon. the united nations estimates that rushes invasion has forced more than 12000000 people to flee their homes. the ukrainian government says thousands of them a searching for friends and loved ones, missing, fed dead, and chuckled. nicole boys, a psychologist, volunteering it's a sense of helping some of the 10s of thousands of people from mary. opal fled to
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the ukrainian control side of you today. i had a lady whose husband was killed in front of her and she asked me, why did i survive? she like so many is deeply disturbed, constantly breaking down and refusing to accept what has happened with families who come to this sense receive food parcels. once every 2 weeks, children play while their parents register, until their stories to volunteers on the re used to work at the as of style plants as a liaison operator, he says he left many friends behind mother support anymore. so i think they are more sympathetic to the occupiers, yet that they call me and asked when are you coming back? but i will never returned with russians in control. anastasio was a social worker, and mary will pull before the war. she struggles to hold back, her tears said it be upset, her history didn't we all lost friends, they're gone forever. in my case, it would have been death or captivity because i refused to work under the occupiers
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. i don't know if i will ever see my city again. ukrainian government accuses russia a forcing tens of thousands of people from mary opal into russia and accusation. russia denies. eula and louis miller say their only hope is that all examiner is still alive. cha, stratford al jazeera keith. every year of the past decade has seen a rising number of people, forced to flee their homes. this year is no different, a new high for displacement above 100000000 for the 1st time. the u. n. refugee agency says the scale and speed of this crisis is out pacing solutions. the biggest factor right now is the war and ukraine, which has triggered one of the largest mass displacements since the 2nd world war. but there is some good news. 5.7000000 people return to their countries of origin last year. ah. all right,
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let's go ahead and bring in our guests in geneva. shabby a man to as a spokesperson for the united nations refugee agency. in oxford, nando said, gonna professor of international migration at the university of birmingham and director of the institute for research into super diversity. and in, in re cargill, new zealand bedroom, which connie is an author and former refugee a warm welcome to you all, and thank you so much for joining us today on inside story batteries. let me start with you today. when we talk about the displacement crisis in the world today, we must talk about something that's been in the news a lot, especially this week it's, it's very controversial plan in the u. k. there's this agreement between the british government and wanda, in which some refugees and asylum seekers would be center a want to have their asylum claims process. there. now many who oppose this plan say that the plan mirrors australia's use of offshore detention centers. that was a plan that saw people being sent to detention centers on the pacific islands of now. ruined montrose. you yourself were held that an offshore detention center on
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matters highland for 6 years. so how concerned are you about the kind of precedent this u. k. ra wanda agreement could set thank you for having me. i think it's part of fake news for many years waiting man who sign on. i'm also the advocates you guys you know straight up. where was what is happening in australia on what the government is doing? one way to be or other conflicts either like 5 years ago, some politicians came from tarnish from denmark on baby to novel. and when they went back to europe, they exactly established st. then lock. but you ok be is the largest version of australia and exactly the same.
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let me say that the former was trading prime minister. tony was exactly the same person to use this policy to british politicians. they are doing it's connie c. e 's established on secrecy. on seth tank or so on based off colonialism. and so what they are doing is exactly the same as what was done on. fortunately i'm very negative about this. they are going to do with these so nowadays, but i don't think that the courts or human rights to fund or see which society you are successful,
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was them to do it. the sponge is really, i'm really worried about that because i'm, once i know the system that always call me always new mom are so this policy pack on political conte shop actually undermine the support such as human human rights on the market value. so of course i'm just following bethany was of funny. they don't do it but quite negative about it. they went to it because this kind of policy along the auction, the politicians, to manipulate public and get power. so we already seen that
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being said, we know the outcome of how many people are keep on the system called the system is caught up. shabby. you and i have spoken many times in the past about the numerous display, some crises in different parts of the world. but we are at a moment now where there are a 100000000 people worldwide that have been forced to flee their homes in the past year. that is the highest number of displaced people recorded since world war 2. and that is staggering. by any measure. i wonder if you could speak to our audience about the enormity of this number and what this means. andy, this is a very stark figure. it's very sobering and alarming in equal measure. m. each year we've, we've seen worldwide force displacement increase and where we have same load, you know, these records just being an met and even touch your urine. you know,
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they're just really an exponentially increasing. now it's a very worrisome picture, but there's a direct link between us worldwide force displacement and conflicts and persecution, and humanitarian emergencies that continue to drive people from their homes. and so what we're seeing is a picture around the world of people having to flee in the face of conflict and, and security. so we're advocating for solutions. otherwise these numbers will continue. but more importantly than that, behind these numbers, these are human beings. each one of those is a human person with, with a life ahead of them. and it's a really tough deal to be living in a state of displacement. so we are calling for solutions to resolve those situations that force people to flee and to prevent them from becoming displaced in the 1st place. and just one last thing to have when we look at this statistics, it's also worth bearing in mind that the majority of these people and we've reached at 100000000 in fact this year. but we've just released a report to day of the global trends report, which looks at wildlife boss displacement of the previous year. and last year,
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at the end of 2021, we had about 89300000 people worldwide that were forcibly displaced. now 83 percent of those are being hosted in low to middle income countries around the world. so we're also seeing a great in equity in terms of responsibility sharing. so the worlds are possibly displaced people. and under your heard, shabbier speak there about the link between a forcible displacements force displacement and, and conflict. and, and you and hcr is saying that the trend and the rising numbers of those being displaced can only be reversed by a new concerted push towards peacemaking. but given the state of the world today and given how many conflicts there are in the world right now, does it seem likely to you that we will see that push that we would see that concerted effort by the international community? i don't think so. i mean, at the moment all we see is that there's a sustained attack on refugee protection internationally. you know,
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you mentioned the beginning of the one, the plan of the british government. one of the reason why the plan is really concerning is that if in the past it can become a template for other countries. and what it does is basically saying that the reach western countries can seem play of sort of their responsibilities of the record. this is not just what we saw in the past that was for some box shoring decimal claim. so some claim were assessed outside the country, but then people were transferred towards western destination. in this case, the novelty of it is that basically you case frustrating asylum seekers. for been assessed by a firm country and even in case they are successful, they stayed there. they've no right to to move. do you ok, so we will, we see is i think is sustained the attack on the, on the system that was billed with the geneva convention 70 years ago. bearers. you know, in the past few months, there's been a lot of sympathy that's been shown to ukrainian refugees. and of course, that's
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a good thing. all refugees should be given the safe harbor. but the fact that there are so many refugee crises going on around the world and the fact that there is so many refugees in various parts of the world who don't get nearly the same amount of help and aid and attention. how does that make you feel, and how does that make the refugees that you're speaking to regularly feel? i think, you know, the, i need to treat many refugees in this 14000 refugees are being where are almost a decade on the i was enough to just leaving. so i touch with someone just around the war. and i thing that is, of course dogs, some countries of a one come the food is from crime, but it's great. so should appreciate that. but unfortunately,
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that is discrimination. you know, the, you know, according to mass low, you can, you are not a lot to do that. so the futures are refugees. so it doesn't matter when they come from doesn't matter what date of scale, what is their background? that's why, you know, the kid is not touch sweet. they always on warranty. they sometimes get angry about it. even in germany, wait here was 2 months ago that they kicked out the futures commendation to reduce from crime and longing you. okay. we see that they treat refugees from crime. now they are vanishing. refugees wrong,
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but there is some around that. of course, i don't know that we said it's by see them or not, but obviously discrimination that's not actually cable according to the law. so we should ask this question, that's why we have trustee, which is why we let them stay, why we, you know, process led them to something you like because of principles because we believe we think we should believing what your mind. so when we understand it this way, i really don't understand why it takes up the future and that does not accept the table that make refugees in mind about in all dog
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and tongue who hopping away will settle in the country. that is off. obviously that news is not acts of payable. shabby. i want to talk a little bit about some remarks that were made by your boss and the you and high commissioner for refugees, philippe grandy. he had said that the european union's response to the ukrainian refugee crisis has been unequal. and that he would like all refugees to be afforded the kind of generosity that ukrainian refugees have been granted. but that's not really what we're seeing, is it? i mean, there are many refugees and refugee crises, and other parts of the world that are being largely ignored. right. well, i think the, the global picture is a mix. one. i think 1st thing we have to, we have to recognize, obviously be the response to the ukraine refugee crisis. it was, we saw a tremendous outpouring of solidarity, a trend, tremendous outpouring of support. and so we did commend the quick steps and the,
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and the commitments that were made to respond to that crisis that shows that when you have that result and when you have the political will, it is possible to respond to situations of masters placement. and i think that's the message, but like to see for all of a crisis, they're also deserving of, of the same attention and support. and you have many of those around the worlds and many, many of those are also neglected or forgotten. so we don't it, and we're asking for an extension of that compassion. and that's all that archie, but asthma has mentioned, you know, the right to seek asylum, it's a fundamental human right. and it's a legal obligation. so it's really important that refugees and no matter where they come from, that they're able to access that safety and protection and, and receive their, their rights and entitlements that they, that they deserve. but we also have to look at the global picture. if we do look at the response to many refugee crises around the world, it is predominately the neighboring or the regional countries that do stuff up there. often at the front lines that the 1st responders that you might say in terms of dealing with them. and if we look at the statistics, for instance,
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for the report that we issued out yesterday at the end of last year, we had a, you know, the largest hurst country. could, you has countries where countries like turkey, columbia, uganda pakistan, and so on. and these are countries that are a neighboring knows where we do have a humanitarian situations and we, tracy those out was so we also recognized the tremendous solidarity that has been displayed by those countries. and it's not unique in the case of the current situation. and so be a just one, a quick follow up question for you. um are there, are there glimmers of hope right now? are there examples of, of countries in communities that are working together to find solutions to help the displaced indeed they are. i mean, we look at the responses, some of these neighboring roughly, she has countries, they've kept their boat as i've been, even during the height of the pandemic. they were receiving refugees. i mean, this is precisely why the wreckage in global displacement pick a has gone up every year. it's because those countries that a neighboring these crisis, they have received letters,
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refugees and displaced people. so we must also recognize that. and you've got countries like colombia in ecuador, grunting and intemperate protection. directives or status is which enable of people who are displaced on that territory to benefit from, from their rights and residency and services on. but you have remarkable many, many examples of solidarity and compassion. exemplified by many countries that are hosting refugees, and it's also important to remember that it, despite the, the grim outlook in terms of displacement. we saw about 5700000 displays people returning to their, their harms, of a countries of origin as well in 2021. and that is also quite remarkable that they were able to retain her voluntarily. and though i saw you nodding to somewhat shabby was saying, so i'm gonna give you an opportunity to jump in. but i also want to ask you, i'm from your perspective, how disproportionately are women and children being impacted by the rising number of conflicts around the world? this past decade, these are already vulnerable populations. how much more vulnerable have they become when it comes to forcible displacement in terms of the ukranian response compared
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to other some in, as he was just mentioned. traditionally, the crisis are dealt in the regions and this is, has been one something that we have seen over the last the case. if you want to compare the response to credit, you can for example, look at the response to the warning was a lot of the dissolution of you cause like where, where mostly you member states that a provided support for the refugees from the civil war in yugoslavia so if it's true that not all references are treated the same, that's for sure. but it's also true that very often is the neighboring countries that, that one that take the bulk of the responsibility. and that is what we're seeing now in terms of the response to the cleaning crisis. boy a seat, we are single. so this generous response partly because european union as learn from the experience of the refugee crisis. so 251516. and they have learned that by closing the board that they will only create tensions. they will create instability
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in members in the day that will happen when dina, with the board, that is all for under a so the construction of the walls, etc. so in many ways allow the flow of people out or seen able to release some of the tension that is normally produced in dissipation of crisis. the main issue that we need to consider here is there is a huge pressure on local communities at moment. you know, they are receiving the hundreds of thousands of people in some cases. for a long this is to cinema is one of the issues. what is going to happen at the end of the temporary protection is and other issues that it will need to pay attention to in terms of the vulnerable groups that are groups that been m. as we've seen, also with ukrainian crisis that very often, especially in the 1st part of the conflict, this was bessie was but mostly women and children l. the people that crossed to outside ukraine. we've seen that sometimes very often experiences of violence,
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of ition in the, in this process is in crossing the border sometimes also as a search show, show us that in the, in the way that the modeling services. so pick a date, often women of people are born or both to sexual agenda about violence for research because out the university of birmingham as shown bearers, we only have a couple of minutes left. i want to give you the last word here. i've heard you speak in the past very, very powerfully about the kind of trauma that refugees and displaced deal with, especially when it comes to those who have escaped violence. they've made it to a new country, but then they just have to wait. have to wait to find out if they can get asylum or when they'll be able to set up a new life. could you, could you tell our audience a little bit about that kind of trauma? you know, i already wrote about these some articles that particularly australia. oh, they mean a fortune refugees. that all kind, you know,
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just keeping refugees in meaningful so just keep refugees. wait too many to get my sub tell mom in the counseling that he's really use for child because it's living in limbo. living situation like on beside the situation is really packed on refugees and they cannot imagine future. they cannot really think about the future or sunday news many, you know, a few reduce the last day countries of course they, for example, now we are going to reduce families and they want to support one big cannot. you know, that this kicking people are just waking 20 create
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problems in the future in order. but some refugees are many refugees. actually. they less the countries because of persecution. because up discrimination. you know, when they come to wes, you know, they go through a difficult process again, of course that you know, they have to indoor kind of trauma. again, it's, for example, with roman, especially some of them a big conference because 6 strong wireless spot. they find them something or in places like that, they get right on the 6th floor i saw. so, i mean, that is a really difficult to describe it,
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but keeping refugees in that situation. and then on the side, the situation for many years, of course, damage, refugees, men pulling on. i don't know when they get from don't call they want to get away off or to start them, you know, like, all right, well we have run out of time. so we're going to have to leave the conversation there. thanks so much. all of our guests shall be a man to nando see going to and bathrooms, which honey and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter or handle this at the g inside story for me, how much of german a whole team here and how bye for now, the
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