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big and i'm big and i think one of the reasons that most cellulose is because he's an access to the southern hemisphere. i'm from the southern hemisphere. they can't, they can see they, they as tar alpha symposium, st policies. the closest start to the sun. i'm down, they want to investigate a few things about their houses and polos, and these are universities in the united states. the, i got the b is the same instruments and this particular projects to go these studies. so it is very important to start to continue these studies, although it has been done book to extend them. gotcha thing by x ray satellites in that walk mora in a wider way before x rays on auto, violet satellites of cabinets floating b. they get the galaxy essentially. but that these little, that experiments will help a little bit more about this. well, ah, hello again, the headlines on al jazeera, the war,
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and ukraine inflation and the global food crisis are all on the agenda at the g. 7 summit and bavaria leaders a place to raise hundreds of billions of dollars for a global infrastructure program. it's aimed at countering china's belts and road initiative. our diplomatic editor james base has more from the summit in germany. the idea is arrival to the bolton road initiative by china. i think they're hoping that i don't think something similar the 2nd year running them actually get it off the ground. this time and present by very message that this is about showing what democracies can do for the world. i think a link back to the war in ukraine showing the difference between democratic governments and other governments. for example, russia g 7 leaders are set to announce a ban on imports of russian gold during the summit. gold exports are a major source of revenue after energy. moscow is also facing its 1st debt default since $998.00 because of sanctions. russian strikes have hit an apartment block
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a military facility and to kindergarten in the center of the ukrainian capital achieve. it's the 1st time the city has been targeted since the beginning of the month. a funeral has been held for a british journalist who was killed in the amazon earlier this month. john phillips on brazilian indigenous expert bruna perrera were shot dead in the western amazon region of brazil on their way back from reporting trip. 3 suspects have been arrested. a quick doors president has entered a state of emergency. there was imposed following days, a protest by indigenous groups. they've been on a nationwide strike for nearly 2 weeks gear mul also made the move after 8 hours of heated debate about his leadership. the french government says it will back a parliamentary bill to make abortion a constitutional rights. the move was welcomed by women's rights activists to join saturdays, pride parade in paris. abortion is legal in france up to 14 weeks of pregnancy,
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nor ways. prime minister are members of the royal family, have attended a memorial service for victims a saturday shooting. 2 people were killed and 21 injured norwegian security services called the incident a terror attack. those are the headlines on al jazeera up next. it's inside story. thanks for watching. bye bye for now. ah, hunger in the us after the supreme court slacks down a 50 year old abortion law professor, say it's an attack on personal freedom. supporters say it will save lives, but how will this ruling impact of the laws and can roe vs wade. the restore. this
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is inside story. ah. hello, welcome to the program. i'm hashem abala. a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy has been one of the most divisive issues around the world in recent days. france is voting to make it a constitutional right. abortion is legal that up to 14 weeks into the pregnancy, in germany, it's illegal. alas, it poses a health risks to the mother. german officials, however, say they plan to change that. but it was the united states that made global headlines with a storage bowling i
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. the supreme court on friday decided to strike down bo versus wade if federal ruling that allowed abortion in the 1st 12 weeks of pregnancy, it had below the land for nearly 50 years. immediately after the decision came down, dozens of states began to ban or severely restrict the pros, asia is also led to protest, white across the country. on one side, women say they've lost control over their own bodies. while others say the decision was long overdue. i joined because you're just going to go back. i wondered, in these days, don't care about the rights of the women. so we've all just become 2nd class citizen, christopher murphy, i'm just not democratic at all. the whole. 2 ruby, wicked situation was a lie, was built on a lie, and people need to know that this abortion is not good for people should never be,
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it should never be okay to kill another person. i think it's really important anything we can do to support life and, and to dispel the lie that life is just merely a choice that we can do. wait on with no regard for the sanctity of life. well, bring it in august in a moment. first, let's have a closer look at ro versus wait. it was a 1973 supreme court ruling that said, a woman's why to terminate a pregnancy was protected by the u. s. constitution. it was a $7.00 to $2.00 decision that said the 14th amendment covers the right to privacy, which in turn, protects abortion. it said the government could not regulate abortions at all during the 1st 12 weeks of pregnancy, while in the 2nd part of the pregnancy of the government can regulate it to protect a woman's life. but it said abortion could be regulated and even stopped by the
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government during the last stages of pregnancy. ah lettering in august the all joining us from the united states in burlington birth hardy, a states senator for vermont in atlanta, jill cartwright, biter organizer and former campaign lead with southerners on your ground. and in austin. amy, donal director of communications of the texas alliance for life. welcome to the program. ladies, i would like to start by breaking down their significance of their supreme court decision and its impact on the us. let me start with your birth. you are from vermont. a state which still protects abortion, but now do you see yourself on a collision course where the federal system itself am. thank you. in vermont,
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we are very fortunate that are a right to abortion has been protected due to the hard work of the legislature here on in 2019 we passed a law codifying the practice and protection of reproductive health care, including abortion. so that women across vermont will continue to have access to abortion. and this year in 2022, we have on our ballot a constitutional amendment that will guarantee a reproductive autonomy for all vermonters. so we are fortunate in vermont that we acted quickly and proactively to protect the rights of all people in vermont. so they have access to reproductive health care. unfortunately, that's not true for millions and millions of americans, and this is been a devastating court decision for millions of people across our country. jill, what's next? full women of low income and women of color are likely to bear the brunt of this
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decision. so right now it's, it's unfathomable, i must say that we are in a period where we are returning to ushering back an error forced pregnancy. ah, as you know, this is something that was widespread and prevalent most during the, the period of slavery on. and even as we saw on in 2019 of the 4 sterilizations in georgia immigration center detention center, this is something that has been happening in prisons and jails. but now this is leaking out into the public arena. and so black and brown working and poor women are the ones who have to contend with that, right, we're the ones who bear the brunt of these kind of egregious an unfair policies. and so right now, it's a matter of looking back a matter of looking around at each other and being able to show it for each other
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in a way that allows for us to care for ourselves and to be able to care for children . right outside of the c, 60 percent of women who go to have abortions across the board. are people who already have children in their lives. re, abortion is a necessary right? because it allows us to be able to care for the children that we already have or the children that we may want to have in the future. and so right now for black and brown, working people who are able to have children or may have been a city from abortion. now it's a matter of understanding ok. what are these laws actually saying? at what point can i abort right at what point can i bought my pregnancy? at what point do i need to see a medical doctor and so on. so it's, it's a really rough time amy, the people in the u. s. women in particular are grappling with this massive shift in the legal landscape,
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particularly when it comes to the issue of abortion. the supreme court is saying that we are handing over the control above the issue of abortion, to the states to decide people are seeing. this is something that has been taken away a fundamental right from us. how do you see it? it's interesting that you say women across the united states are grappling with this decision i, along with many women are celebrating this decision that, that supreme court has rendered stating that there is no constitutional right to abortion. that that was erroneous, lee decided previously and that the power to legislate, abortion should re, again return to the state and to the voters to allow their voices to vote in elected official if you will represent their values and bring forth those values. and allows of their state in texas. i and many women are celebrating the fact that life is now protected from conception to birth with our human life protection act which passed in the 87th legislative session in 2021. and that law goes into effect
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30 days after the final judgement is rendered. and i am so thrilled to say that life is now protected in our state booth. can you explain to us what happens next? particularly when in a place like vermont, you're seeing an influx of women trying to have abortion in your own state. now, you have to provide them with protection. but the same time there is another concern which is basically push back against prosecution. if they decide to take that decision, if people come to vermont to have an abortion, it is safe and legal to do so in vermont. and we will be looking next fashion at legislation to ensure the protection of people from other states coming here, as well as health care providers. and, and that's something i really want to underscore abortion. and reproductive health care is health care. it is vital health care,
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and that is something that is being denied now to millions of women and people across the united states. it is health care fundamental health care. and it is something that is completely necessary for, for people who may or may not want to carry pregnancy to term, including people who are carrying a pregnancy to term and may have complications. and those people are no longer protected in the states that have trigger bands that have now outlawed abortion. it is fundamentally dangerous in many states, to be a woman of reproductive age because these laws are denying women the right to vital health care. and i also want to underscore that the, the ability to vote in elected officials that will protect that health care is being fundamentally dismantled and many of the same states with denying
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by vital protections for voters and in the, and gerrymandering. legislative seeds making it very, very difficult to vote in people who are attacked this by on health care. jill, quite interesting, that in a place like the united says of america, women under some sort of a limbo, they are yet to understand what happens next when the take the decision to travel to another state for a bushel. what happens to the, the risk for a percussionist and being prosecuted by their own states? they the looking for many answers before taking the decision. yes, and i want to speak to a this false, honestly, this falsehood, that abortion banning abortion is protecting life. um, because i think that when use, when you make a statement like that, the question follows of what lies you're talking about, right?
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so when we been abortions across the board and such as in the 13 states that have trigger bands and total bands on abortion or go into effect following this ruling, we're talking about hundreds of women pre rove pre roe v wade, hundreds, hundreds of women, and people died yearly from unsafe abortion because they could not get a safe and fair and accessible portion, but they also could not bear their child for whatever reason. they could not afford to have a child because they were domestic violence. situation, abortions, the absence of abortions heightens domestic violence situation were women pregnant women who often cannot find work and often are in need of care or forced to stay in situations where they are housed with someone who is violent, who may not be caring for them. who may not allow them to see the care that they need. and so basic domestic violence then leads to death as well. i think there's
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a number of ways that we can protect life. right. but life is nuanced in it does not just come down to one single um, situation where someone might be carrying a baby or a fetus. right? or someone might have been fertilizer, there, contraception did not work. and that's what i think is scary about this is because a lot of these abortion laws do not have that. we want to understand what actually is an abortion women were having miscarriages. right? women who have miscarriages and people who are pregnant, that have miscarriages, often need to have a doctor's assistance to finish the miscarriage. so that bill do not die or they do not have health health impacts. and so that is in character as, as an abortion, or as life saving procedures are being character, as, as abortions, that means i were criminalizing all pregnant people for wanting to essentially say their own life. you cannot talk about my ish and protecting life is
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a blanket statement when it comes to abortion. when in a lot of these situations, the abortion is what stands between death and someone's life. amy, yes, her dear. among many women who are celebrating the decision, because this is a, some things that are respects life. and then when you talk into the women who are expressing their concerns as we speaking in the united states of america, how do you see moving forward against the backdrop of this device? if political reality in the analysis of america, people are divided about every single aspect of their own daily lives, including abortion. one thing that i think is highly important is that we address them information that is being perpetuated. and 970 dr. bernard nathan, been somewhere during that time put forth erroneous information, stating that there were numerous women that died from abortion before. roe v wade.
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and so with that information that i've been perpetuated through time, we have seen those live buried for which he, in fact even came out after the transition from being an abortion doctor to being pro life. he even came out and said that was not true. it was made up statistics, but we know here are those made up statistics perpetuated. and so i just want to say that we need to be careful there. make sure that we're sharing factual back up a little information and also things such as miscarriage, care a topic, pregnancy, care and feed a lot of information about their and concern out there. that treatment for these very real conditions is not going to be possible. now the reality is that in texas, every abortion law has medical emergency caption covers a topic, pregnancies, covers anything that could potentially take or heavily impact the life of the mother. and then, miscarriage. care is not abortion care when
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a body naturally miss carries a baby that care that helps the mothers body expel all of the fragments of that pregnant b as not considered abortion. and the medications that are available to help with that are still available to help with that. and so we feel a lot of fear. we see a lot of misinformation what i want to tell women, especially when we have a bad sort of help not say that this is miss. i really want to any anger under existence or rosie. we have been able to actually ask and talked to people who are having abortions about their experiences about what's happening because those people were protected because they did not fear that if they, if they told the truth about what was happening,
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they will go to jail. that is the reality of estimate then for america, not so this is about, this is as i say, movies while, while we're talking about this, this polarization which is crippling a debate in the united states of america about how to move forward. i have different angles to cover here. let me go to ruth. people talk a lot about roe vs wade by the forget that are the same time there were there were there's a tradition of century old laws criminalizing abortion at state levels. and they were widely considered as dormant, and people are pretty much concerned that these laws cook now, i guess the backdrop of this last a recent decision could be triggered once again. what does it mean for the you, for, for, for the issue of abortion. yeah, you're, you're absolutely right. so as an example, in one state, wisconsin, there was a law on the books from 1849 that was triggered by the supreme court case on friday
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. and now abortion is mostly illegal in the state of wisconsin because of this 170 year old law that was in that state that the legislature failed to get rid of after roe v wade. so it is very, very important that state legislatures be vigilant, especially in states where there are trying to protect the right of people to access reproductive health care in abortion, and making sure that they put in pro active laws like we did here in vermont to protect that right to vital health care. and i do want to say that there were, there were many women who died from illegal abortions prior to roe v wade. and that is not not a line that is true. and that will happen again because when, when people are desperate,
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they take desperate measures and we need to make sure that they have vital access to health care. and also there are, there are some, there is testimony from medical providers themselves from doctors in texas and others. it's talking about the fear that they have for providing health care. in the case of necessity, necessary abortions in the case of miscarriages. that is true. health care providers themselves are afraid of providing this health care in these states, jill, it's going to be just a matter of days before the trigger laws come into effect. though, do you think that pro abortion activists will have to wait for the pendulum to swing left before this reality changes once again. so what i have known and what i've always known as an organizer,
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as someone who has always tried to be on the right side of history, right? is that whether or not the political pendulum, wherever it swings communities, especially marginalized communities, the people who are most impacted by discriminatory rulings like this one have always remain grounded in solidarity with each other and being willing to do what it takes to make sure that our people are so are safe to make sure that people who want abortions and people who want to be able to make decisions about their own bodies in their own lives are able to do so. and so there is no waiting. we cannot wait. if we wait for actually a, this week, a couple weeks. so we, we just celebrated right emancipation and the ending of chattel slavery with the johnson holiday, which is a federal holiday. now, we have the holiday,
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because even with the centuries of slavery that was happening in the u. s. people, some people had to wait to be freed. right? it was, oh, it was fully legal for like black people and slate, who tends to be free. and some of them did not know, but others did not wait. owners found their freedom or it was legally justified. and that's something that we still have to do now is to still understand that just because the supreme court an illegitimate supreme court. i might say this, i that abortion is not a human right. does not make it so even though we wilkinson protect our yeah, i mean, how this question for you, if you don't mind, which is basically the, the, the justices. but he's the decision or an interpretation, a conservative interpretation of history and traditional. when justice clarence thomas says in his can hurrying an opinion that other issues are likely to be
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revisited, particularly people talking about contraception and same sex relationships. are you value? do you think they should, the descent should extend to those other issues? important to know that just is thomas is concurrent, has no baring on the actual decision itself. just as the leader very clearly that in his decision that pertains to abortion and abortion alone, it does not impact or burger fell. it does not impact contraceptives. it does not impact same sex unions. and he, in that passage, i believe it's on page $79.00 of the breed. where if i don't know how we could be more clear now the concurrence at thomas rose called data and lawyer terms. it's basically his side, and he is in the minority on the court with his belief about due process and the 14th amendment. but he is one of all the justices but lans there. and he is allowed
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to put forth his opinion in his concurrence. and so that is where he stands, that is where the court, the whole band. nor is that where the decision itself stands. bruce, do you think that it's about time to restructure or to reform the supreme court because widely seeing as biased, polarized by many people are angry and who are saying the president or the congress has to look for ways to expand it. yeah, i think this decision has clearly shown that this court is a political court. it is not a court that is based on the rule of law or the the constitution as a living document. this court is a political court that is making political decisions, which is not what the united states supreme court is supposed to be. there are also some questions about the ethical on the ethical functioning of this court that i think needs to be looked and into. and the majority of the appointees to this court
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were appointed by presidents who did not win the popular vote. so there's clearly a case to be made that this court needs to be reformed. and unfortunately, i don't think we have the congress that is that it would be willing and able to do so. we need to be making sure that we have a supreme court. that is the legitimate supreme court. that is, that is looking at our constitution in the 21st century and f for the best, for the best health and welfare of the current population of the united states. most americans believe 80 percent of americans believe abortion should be legal and this court has thrown the decision in their face. so we do need to look at reforming the, the supreme court and, and protecting americans from a politicized court that it is not working in their best interest. fortunately, we're running out of time both hauled it till cartwright female done
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