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have grounded all of these soldiers, none of them are allowed to leave the country, and no rotation of soldiers are allowed inside molina, there are talks taking place between the melina authorities in the u. n. to find an end to this crisis, but take a listen to what their, the, you, and spokesperson for on hawk had to say. the rotation of contingency is crucially important for the missions, operational effectiveness and the safety and security of personnel. all efforts must be made for an urgent filament, especially since some of the staff concerned should have been relieved several months ago. and this all started on sunday when 49. i foreign soldiers landed on the turmeric of the airport in the capitol. bama co. the mullin authorities accused them of being mercenaries, but the over in say this is all a misunderstanding. these are you and contractors, part of the national support element there to help the un peacekeeping efforts there. the u. n, though, has denied that it has any of these elements or any record of these men adding more
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confusion to the crisis. and to this situation, ah, this is al jazeera, these, your top stories, shoreline, as prime minister, renelle victim, a singer has been sworn in as acting president, falling the resignation of go. so by roger pox i, he stepped down falling months of mass protests, of the most severe economic downturn in decades. the fasten has moved from columbia . you look at the, the protestors that we've seen here in the last couple of months. they basically have to object to objectives. it was a go to by roger box up to resign it. but also on it, we come a singer to resign and a if we look at last wednesday when and the early morning, a good a by a hydroxyl flat from the country to the mall div protests. actually we're picking
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up and the dental 1000. so for them were on the streets, people were on the street going to the office of the prime minister, then still prime minister become a sango. so it's really clear that this brought us with not only about the president, but it was also about the prime minister. u. s. president joe biden is visiting the occupied west bank ma, tight security ahead of a meeting with a palestinian president, mahmoud abbas. a protest is also underway, demanding justice for the murdered al jazeera journalist, serene ob lockley. later on friday, the years president will had to saudi arabia for controversial visits. biden had pledged to make the kingdom a pariah after the killing of the columnist jamal. cuz shogi. hi will price is an iran i expected to be on the agenda. china has recorded it's slowest economic growth since 2020. the slump is being blamed on at 0 tolerance cove at 19 policy, which is interrupted industry and flattened consumers spending. second quarter g d
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p grew just 0.4 percent compared to the same period last year. the influential sheer religious lead him of title solder has called on followers to hold mass prayers. in iraq's capital bagdad, he seeing light fixtures there sat us political block in parliament resigned last month on his orders, deepening the country's political crisis. as the headlines coming up next is the stream. a weekly look at the world's top business stories from global markets to economies and small businesses to understand how it affects our daily lives on examining and counting the coast anovia with welcome to the stream, imac much habit dean filling in for family. okay. today examining the origins of
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the universe with the james web space telescope. it's the largest telescope ever sentences space. and its mission is to observe the birthplaces of distant stars, planets, and galaxies. astronomers say it's a breakthrough for science that may answer humanities. biggest questions, including where do we come from, and are we alone to get our conversation started here is nasa astrophysicist, amber strong. for me, the most exciting aspect of this new telescope is really the breadth of science will be able to do, will be able to study objects from within our own solar system, all the way out to the most distant galaxies. ever. the very 1st galaxies that were born after the big bang and everything in space and time in between. and these 1st images that we've just, or least really just give us a glimpse, just a hit of what's going to be possible with this incredible new telescope. i'm so excited for that year of science that we already have planned. and i have no doubt
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that this telescope is really going to change the way that we understand the universe and ways that we haven't even dreamed of yet. johnny asked to explain the significance of the j. w. s t is our panel of scientists in california. jesse christenson, a project scientist with the nasa zill planet archive. renee doyen, principal investigator for the web telescopes, find guidance sensor and info red imager, known as nearest and in nova scotia, la mullah, an observational astronomer with the dunlap institute for astronomy and astrophysics . and of course, if you want to ask a question to our panel, jump into our live you tube. chad and you can be part of today's conversation. all right, so, so much to discuss, i want to start with, with the basics, kind of the emotion of this moment if you will, jessie, we built this, i say we, of course i haven't done anything, but we built as incredibly complex telescope. i believe it's a 100 times, at least more sensitive than it's 30 year old predecessor. why is this so exciting
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to what does it actually enable us to do? well, hobble it's been such an amazing observatory of humanity for decades now. and there is some things where hubble has just given us a glimpse. we have a hints we think that there's something there, and we're very excited now with get a blessed t. we'll finally get to the answers and some of these incredible questions, like, what's inside the atmosphere at these exit planets by finding how far back can we see towards the dawn of the universe. so it's a step we've been wanting to take for a really long time. so it's very exciting that we're finally here and the telescope is performing as well as it is. right. and on that note that it's performing as well as it is. i mean, i can imagine many things could have gone wrong, rene and you know that in of itself is a celebration or something worth celebrating. you know, with that in mind, we sent this what 1.5 kilometers or 1000000 kilometers, if i'm not mistaken. and it's sending back data and that data is digestible to you
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or in a, what is what is the most exciting element here? well, every, every thing, i mean, you've said that this is arguably the most complex machine that humanity has that a built. and we sent at 1500000 kilometers away. and the eyes, you mentioned, the many things could have gone wrong 1st. so you know, the sales goes so big. so we have to fold it in a big, you know, like how big are we going to be? figure it in the, in the frame, a rocket and incentive $1500000.00, then we have to deploy it. and i used to describe this, this 2 weeks of deployment, this 7 days of terror. well, really, it was 7 days of joy because things when so smoothly. and then we had to align these 18 segments with exquisite currency. you know, it's on you can imagine depression, you need to line these mergers with one another. and yet it took several months. we did it and it worked so well. and one thing to notice $92.00 is that this desk
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always, always behind a sun. she'll always in the, in the dark and has to be protected from the sun and it's very cold out there. it's minus one in degrees celsius, whatever in finite, this is so cold. so we have to develop new technologies to operate his instrument at these temperatures. so it was a lot of challenge, it took 20 years. and so, yeah, it's now we're opening and you eyes and this guy, and to answer big questions about the original designers and i, we alone, don't know, but of course i'm, we will have a credible machine so, so on, on those big questions just quickly and maybe let me know we can start with you. we have and are you to chat solitary kid convinced that we're not alone thing, there's no way we are alone. and i'm wondering beyond that question, that big question. what excites you as someone who's, who's already processing some of the data that's being sent from your vantage point . let me well, they asked in vain for those data, for so long as just right next door to me is the entire canadian extra galactic
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team. the city, they're going through the data, and they're just all crying out, enjoy every time be, find this little galaxies really read galaxies. and we think are, you know, might be one of the 1st of the universe, this galaxies that are full of stars, which might very well, like be our own son and might have a plan, is that like our earth. so, you know, when you look at something like this, something that is like almost a time capsule, where you're seeing galaxies at very different distances because of this wonderful property of light, you know, coming to us at the same speed. you just cannot feel, you know, you cannot feel alone in this. certainly i think i think many of us are excited by that prospect and we'll get to that at the end of this conversation. but before we do, if i may, renee you or forgive me, i jesse you said something interesting kind of comparing hubble to,
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to this new telescope that we're celebrating today. and there is this tweet by john christensen, not to be confused with someone from your family. i believe but, but at least someone who created this really powerful tool, take a look at this. i'm gonna just scroll down a bit. this compare is essentially, this is the, the new telescope, and this is the original sort of hubble image, right? and, and this is the southern ring nebula, could you just beyond sort of the fact that this looks like something that was photo shopped. what, what is that, what is all of this that we see here? tell us that we, we didn't know before. right, so what we're looking at here is a planetary nebula, which astronomers are really bad at naming things. so i'll stop by saying it doesn't actually have anything to do with planets. it's a planetary nebula, it's what happens when a star like our son gets to the end of its life and starts puffing off all of its outer layers and they create is a gorgeous cloud that you see today. and the star in the middle pushes the cloud
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away. what we, the detail that we have with database t is going to allow us to discern much more about the physics, the actual physical mechanisms that are pushing the gas away and how the gas is behaving, gives us information about the medium that the gas is going into the, into stella medium. what happens between stars? this gives us a glimpse of this. and, you know, just to hear from someone else if we can kind of echoing some of those key points that you outlined. we have christine chin and astronomer at the space telescope science is institute, who really highlights for us what she believes is so groundbreaking about this moment. take a look. these 1st early release observations really give us a glimpse into how to use t will transform our understanding of the universe genius. he was designed to peer back to the edge of time to see the 1st galaxies for me. and indeed, the nearer camera captured, grabs 1st deep feel in just 12 and a half hours revealing a scant
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t me with distant galaxies. and each galaxy has been imaging, exquisite detail revealing galaxies with forms, great star clusters, and news, and shrouded in dust. in our newly formed understanding goes beyond these beautiful images to include spectra that reveal precise distances to individual galaxies. what used to take couple days now takes 2 to 2 hours. and as a result, almost every observation will provide a glimpse into the distant universe. so, you know, already when we say we are going to be exploring exit planet atmosphere is in more depth now as a result of this new telescope. what is, what does that mean? i mean, some of our you tube of commenters ghost in the blur thing. this is unbelievable and exciting, but when will we prove other life besides us exists? that is the big question. we also have someone named am had saying, well, the more the discoveries, the more the unanswered questions. so do we anticipate that some of the discovery
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is being made already or that will be made will be surprises. and do you think this is gonna really for sure, make us know that there's life out there? well, we can't know what our web will will love to take life because what we can be absolutely sure that will make giant step. i was answering that question. do you have to understand the, when, when we need to do? so we're trying to, to take an example atmosphere, we're trying to detect the molecules that's in there, you know, on, on urge this molecule like oxygen's. and that those are made by, by life. and, but you know, we hadn't really done that yet on small planet. we had to take that much years on gas john planet, like the one we, we saw the nurse instrument take this beautiful spectrum. while you see these bumps and wiggle, you have to get used to these things. going to see many of these spectra in the coming year. and so that's spectrum prove without any doubt that there's war and that molecules and can also detect methane seo. and when you combine with other site, the other size instrument, you get the whole sweets of capital to detect molecules and as ashley key to one
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day. and so the question is there, you know, vice natural gas that are due to biological activity. you have to understand that hobbled view was in terms of color is what made me like this, you know, probably looking and now where is like, you cannot re my hand right? completely different. and so just like they did the field, we have a couple of the new perspective and would exquisite details. one big limitations about hubble is that it goes around the earth, every 95 minutes 90 minutes. so when you try to measure like true, i will find it. it's always interrupted in this case where we, we can continuously observe this objects without any interruptions, and that makes a big, big difference. and then renee, as you're speaking there, i was showing the audience just kind of the comparison of the korean, the nebula, for example. and some of those elements that you were describing. i do want to kind of kind of ask or actually let me let eric baker, he sent us
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a question that i'll put you in a take a listen to what eric had to say. given that james web space telescope only see certain colors that are on the spectrum of light visible to humans. how to scientists go down to raising the images that we could see online. i forget my, sorry, jesse, that's a sorry that i just show. so what we have to do is we have to take the wavelengths that, that james webb test buy, sells good looking at which is in the infrared heat. and we have to map those into optical wave length that we can see with our eyes. so we, we take that, that section of the wavelength that we can't see, and we remap it in something we can see. so these beautiful images are not what you would see with your eye if you were out in space looking at these nebula, you wouldn't see that. but they are giving us this rich amount of detail about the different wavelengths that these objects are meeting at. and so it's not that there
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was no end for read before it was, it's just that much more advanced, right? if you will, like to hubble, have this capacity to a certain extent. i mean, i'm reiterating, maybe i'm wrong. i think i'm wrong. told me no correct. this let me to, i just want to mention so the previous grade observatory that was an infrared telescope was spitzer also spits that was a nasa mission that operated from 2003 to 2019. and it had infrared capabilities and was able to see glimpses of just again give us hints about what was there and, and so many interesting questions. but leave us wanting more and web is giving us mole. i'm, you know, obviously we've been celebrating so far. i see that there are 2 other guests are in agreement with you nodding there, but i would be remiss to not ask you about some controversy. of course, there's always controversy. we have, for example, this tweet saying, seeing the images from j w as t comes with the bitter sweet knowledge that the person the observatory is named after would not have wanted me or the dozens of other queer astronomers i know involved in this incredible achievement. it deserves better using that hash tag,
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they are rename j w s t. a lot of people might say, well, who cares? why is this controversial, your thoughts on this, jesse? yes, so james webb was a nasa administrator during the apollo years and was very instrumental in having the cisco sent successful apollo missions prior to his time at nasa. he was in leadership at the state department when the state department was going through this period of purging a l g b t. people from the state department. this is in the early fifties and it's not clear that james webb had any specific role in that. but he was in leadership in the state department at the time. and so then it comes into this, you know, what responsibility did he have to stop it? you know, was he a product of his time? was he following orders? when it's very unclear the extent to which he was involved in this. so there's just some murkiness at it's made people. it's always a shattered things a bit. it's made people uncomfortable because you don't want to think that this incredible new instrument that was built for everyone was named off to someone who
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wasn't for everyone. i understand that that's a, that's a great way of putting a la you were gonna say something. oh i want to add them in i we will the james web space telescope. it's now being launched in error, which is where science is now a lot more open and now we are they and available accessible to people around the world in a way that may be the hubble space telescope. are the previous missions of not have been, be now have the data that was released today is actually available for anyone around the world to download and analyze the software that we are using to license data is also more accessible. and i think because i don't, world of post pandemic has also changed where we are now more able to connect with each other or conduct meetings and the researchers over on by i think we are moving
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to an era where with james, that very day we will see people from all over the world coming in into and, and getting, you know, getting to do science with this wonderful chance of in a way that, that has not have happened before. but i think there is, you know, there is a lot of things to look forward to now here most, most certainly, and among them as much as i want to look for it and we should and there is so much to look forward to. i want to ask you just for a little bit of context, renee, you know, hub oh versus web. if you will. the last time nasa launched an observatory of such kind of importance and significance. it was really deemed a disaster if i'm not mistaken. in 1090 some, you know, astronomers like sandra faber, others saying it was an absolute kind of catastrophe. why is that? and i don't want to focus too much, but, but how would you compare this moment? well i how goal led to what you're referring to is one hobble was launch. he had
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some eyesight problem and we had that that was an issue, a mistake made which these things are not easy to do, of course, but of course we learn from, but it was fixed. you know, because the hubble was close, it's close to the, the earth orbit. so we could send the shuttle and change the it's meant to crack it's i side. and then i will came back with his good eyesight and that, you know, i, to a truly realize astronomy. now we learned from that and for that we were very careful with you. not maybe just i mistake and you know, there's no problem with the telescope and as i said, it's a break. ah, let's think he and i have to bethlehem in the occupied west bank, where you as president joe biden is currently with palestinian president. my mood, abbas before they sit down and have a chat. let's have a look at what is happening there. they are in the occupied westbank,
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joe biden missing with palestinian leaders in the occupied westbank this friday before he goes on to fly, to saudi arabia controversial. summit i'm joined by kennedy, hook it a white house correspondent. what are you expecting? kimberly, from this meeting between mahmoud abbas and joe biden. well, 1st of all, i can tell you that given the fact that joe biden was in israel for 2 days and had a series of meetings, in contrast that with the meetings about to take place in terms of length, it's just 45 minutes long. as so we have to take that into note that it is going to be very short. what we're seeing right now in front of us is the welcome ceremony. and then there will be the 45 minutes that the u. s. president has allocated to talk about what he sees and the palestinian president of macklin abbas
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sees as the substantial issues. and that is the amount of time that has been allocated to try and resolve them. it doesn't seem like very much time. so this is the sort of what the 2 sides have been able to negotiate. and we understand that there wasn't a lot of agreement in place in order to be able to achieve this. but there are a number of concerns that have to be sort of address, for example. um we know that the palestinians are looking to try and halt settlement building. they are concerned about the fact that there is not a reopening of the consulate for palestinians that the united states has not done that. there is the concern about, of course, our own sharina black lay, the journalist of course, killed by an israeli bullet. and that the, of course, an american citizen, there are a lot of stant of issues that need to be brought up. and there is only 45 minutes in which to do all of this. so it doesn't seem like there's going to be very much
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time. so what we have is a lot of time spent on a welcome ceremony and not very much time to discuss all of these issues on top of that. we should also point out that there have been rising tensions. of course, in re months we've been covering this here in al jazeera and the president is coming with absolutely no plan and how to address these issues. there has been no shuttle diplomacy that has taken place. there is no plan on how to address this than the present to the even started out when he landed in israel saying that he doesn't see any sort of prospect for peace in the near term. in fact, all he has said is that he is committed to a 2 state solution. he is committed to seeing that there is a peace security and prosperity in equal measure, but that he doesn't see anything beyond that in the near term. so there doesn't seem to be a lot of hopefulness in this meeting. in fact, it seems to be
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a bit of an after thought, i as the president, immediately after this meeting wraps up, he will be traveling to ben gory an airport. and then on his way together, kimberly obviously a previous to this president, we had donald trump where the mood between the 2 countries really his hello, is there any improvements she think in the relationship as who under president biden? i think there was a lot of hopefulness, but we've seen in just the last few moments that are in fact maybe that is not the case. in fact, just the jet, exact opposite. in fact, there may be a continuation just to give our viewers some context for those that don't follow this issue closely. donald trump did a lot to damage the relationship between the united states and the palestinians. he
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all but stalled any attempt to bring them into the fold in terms of peace discussions. there were absolutely no no discussions taking place because he completely cut funding some 25000000 in funding i in terms of the you and relief works agency that was a complete slap in the face. but even more damaging to the relationship was donald trump's decision to move the u. s. embassy from television to jerusalem. this was something that the palestinians said, please do not do this. this is an international city that is revered by many religions, including ours. do not do this, but he did, and it made it almost irreparable. and so there were a number of gestures that joe biden could have made on this trip in order to try and repair the relationship, but none of those actions have been taken. and i think just the fact that there has
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been so little time given to mock where the boss to address some of these concerns . in contrast to the time that was spent with the israeli caretaker prime minister, or even a benjamin netanyahu, a politician who isn't even an office at the moment and is looking to the political come back as the contrasts of the amount of time given to those gentlemen versus someone who represents the palestinian people, shows the priority in the minds of this precedent miss. oh, it's so stark. it is indeed very stark and and back home. oh, we've been talking all morning. it doesn't look like this visit is going down very well with his own crowd of people it back in the united states. nobody is really watching this at all. and when you look at how this visit is playing in the united
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states, and i think about previous us presidents traveling to the holy lands, this would be a major story on the evening news cas, you will see pictures on the front page of the washington post the l a times the new york times. that is not the case this time around. in fact, when you go to the digital newspapers that we are now, most of us are reading. you have to scroll down until the 3rd 4th, 5th story. because what people care about the united states right now is record high inflation. that's what made is making headlines. americans are struggling to pay for their fuel prices for their food. prices were at 41 year highs in inflation this week. and that is what americans care about, and they feel that the united states president is absent when they need him most. okay, kimberly, i stay with us. we can go to nita abraham, who is live for us in bethlehem. need to bring us up to date with what's happening,
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where you all we are now sending inside the home where the president palestinian president talking alongside the u. s. president joe biden journalist who was came here to cover this event and all this. sure, this is just for she has her picture on it because as we see from the schedule, journalists are not going to be allowed to have any questions here. and we also heard from y then when he wasn't occupied east jerusalem. he told people that if they had questions regarding health, that they could push them. so journalists here wanted to say what they have to say in another way, just by writing just the school should be normal shirts. there's also a change here that has her picture on it because it shouldn't been covering this event. if it wasn't, were these really bullied, just cut her life short. and then you want to press the very important message
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that the latest investigation by the us. and believe the statement didn't come close to what they would hoping, which is just as an accountability when it comes to the soldiers who killed shooting abroad. this is when it comes to the issue of city of old an old that are so little expectations when it comes to the business of jo. by the 1st of all, we're talking about a very short visit. would you 5 minutes probably are meeting between the 2, the president. then a thief meant we know that that it hasn't been an agreement on a joint statement between the president. so there is no hope here that this visit is going to change much. yes, there go, there is going to be an announcement regarding what the us as well the better quality of life. the people here say, why are you talking about
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a better quality of life when people's lives are being cut short by the israeli occupation? so what palestinians he'll want is the more pressure on israel, they want to see an engagement when it comes to the peace process that needs to the end of the israeli occupation. but they're not seeing any of that. they're seeing that although we're having and we're talking about the democratic president, they see. ready his policies regarding palestinian seminar to those of his predecessor, their republican donald trump. and they don't see that by dint administration is interested to fix what they've been seeing. and palestinians been saying here, when mistakes such as moving the u. s. embassy from deliveries to sort of we also heard advise in yesterday say that his position on jerusalem has not changed is not . okay, thank you for that need to abraham it's. it's just web pointing out if you're just joining us.

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