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[000:00:00;00] the, it's a country that presents itself as the defender of democracy. freedom of speech being the land of the free. but the crack down on defense in the us is raising the question of who gets to speak, and who gets assignments? stephanie decker and this is the street, the freedom of speech. the trump administration just canceled $400000000.00 worth of grants and contracts for columbia university called harvard a for it to democracy while simultaneously trying to dictate the class so they can

teach who they can hire and what political use the students going to have. that's not democracy, that's author terry and is i'm with the p r t us citizens are still getting new teen coming into the united states. those of you who don't know i was, i was detained by customs and border patrol. and the designers, and this freedoms, protected by the 1st amendment, are essential to maintaining an open in democratic society. let's everybody's eyes are awake to the fact that the constitution doesn't prevent the president from taking over all 3 branches of government. there is no coming back from that. don't have free speech, then we just don't have a free country. it's as simple as that to the 1st amendment of the us constitution promises freedom of speech, freedom of the, press, the right to assemble and to petition. those are the bindings. america says it stands for. but what happens when those rights are threatened by political leaders

using up platforms and power to intimidate and crack down on opinions? they don't agree with. well, to discuss one of this, let's bring in our guests. we have conner, fitzpatrick. he's a supervisor and senior lawyer for the foundation for individual rights and expression will so notice fire and he joins us from washington. d. c. we have nora benavides, she is a civil rights lawyer. i'm free speech advocate at free press. joining us from los angeles and tomorrow to turkey is a policy and austrian journalist and will graduate from columbia university, and she joins us from new york city. thank you so much for joining us. nora, let me start with you. let's get straight to the point. what is happening to free speech under the us, this us administration as well, it's going to be here today to talk about this topic. you know, the truth is, most of us don't often feel like free speech is a topic we encounter, or that it certainly won't affect us, but in just

a few short months. the 2nd trump administration has taken aggressive and dangerous actions to got a number of things that are really the cornerstones of democracy. free speech is one of those. he's gone after the press. he's removed journalists from press briefings. he's removed entire wire services from having access to the white house . he has leverage agencies like the fcc to try to go after and figure out if they can take away broadcast licenses. simply because trump dislikes the news coverage about him. or he is worried about the coverage about his political opponents. on top of that, the administration has actually started monitoring students and other people social media accounts to see if their beliefs are things that could become to portable offenses. we've seen that student visas have been provoked simply for protected political speech. this is really a more dangerous climate than i've seen in my career. i'm very worried and you know,

i think it permeates almost everything. it's the news. we see. it's the way we feel epistatic or chaotic. we look around and we don't even know how to make sense of the rapid pace of erosion in this democracy corner you are not in would you? would you agree with that? this is very much your field. of course. um, how would you describe what you're facing? what we've seen is an absolute avalanche of attacks against free speech sense donald trump took office now to be clear, attacks against free speech are not unique to either democrats or republicans. attacks against free speech have existed since the start of our republic, the french. but since the start of our republic, we have had the 1st amendment. the 1st amendment provides the strongest legal protection for free speech of any country in the world. but what we've seen over the last few months are 3 specific lines of attacks against free speech in the united states, from the trump administration. for the 1st is attacking the free speech rights of non citizens. we've seen non citizens like mount mood, cultural information,

auster facing deportation for nothing more than protected speech. nothing more than expressing their opinions. we've heard a lot from the trump administration, and rightly so that students should not be allowed to vandalize university buildings and should not be allowed to block view with students from going to class . that's absolutely right. but what we're seeing from this administration is it tends to depart people not for what they're doing, but for what they're saying. and that's not ok. the 2nd line of attack that we're seeing by the trump administration, and by mr. trump is attacking journalists, attacking the press. they bard the associated press from the briefing room before they got a court order reversing it. they're threatening to revoke the broadcast licenses of networks who don't report things the way they want them to. and in, in the courts, he's trying to sue cbs for unfavorable coverage or favorable coverage. o'connell, harris, and he's suing the des moines register and, and so, and selves are the prominent poster because he doesn't like what they had, what they have to say. and then finally,

we're seeing attacks against universities. we're seeing instances like harvard and columbia, where there are some certainly legitimate asp. uh, aspects of what they've done, that, that, that may well violate the law. but what they're trying to do is they're trying to use the hook of funding to get them to change how they're teaching to get them to change. the way that they're presenting certain subjects in class, particularly on the middle east. and all of these 3 run flat be contrary to our 1st amendment. yes, we're going to go to the experience of columbia university with tomorrow and a 2nd. but people have been posting videos online, shedding light on the detainment of others, and spreading awareness. now they're worried that even they could be on a watch list. take a listen to this from tick tock, compound ministration is officially detaining american citizens who have been accused of no crimes. so only because they have to let it cool opinions. he doesn't agree with streamer and political influence or hassan piker was detained for hours at the border,

trying to come back into the country after international trip officers repeating. we asked him about his political ideology, his criticisms of donald trump, and even brought up his history of bands on twitch in a separate incident. another influencer savannah pender was also detained in question for hours by customs and border patrol. they asked for access to her digital devices and to all of her social media accounts. it shouldn't be controversial to say that detaining people based solely off of their political ideology, is a direct attack on the 1st amendment of the constitution. as someone who speaks a lot about politics online, i'm certain my name is on some registry somewhere. here's the point. they're trying to sarah, sort of using our voices, and we cannot let them. this is the time to get louder. not run scared, tamara. um, how would you describe the reaction of the trump administration on the anti war protests? has it scared you?

has it made you or your peers fearful for repercussions fearful to speak out? i mean, i would describe the responses very draconian and i think everyone should be incredibly alarmed by these current political conditions and how they're impacting college campuses. because last spring, the incompetence had happened and had lasted for about 2 weeks before the cops arrived this semester. any pro crossed, i'm protest is shut down with police arrest within the matter of hours. just yesterday, we had a protest outside of our university commencement, where a student activist and of them were arrested. the 1st one being within minutes of the, of the protest starting in february, shortly after my food i did was detained, and trump caught $400000000.00 from columbia. our um, our university administration implemented a list of trumps demands which included

a mass span. placing our department of middle eastern studies under administrative control and hiring 36 new cap of security officers with powers to arrest students. and there had been saying going around that columbia had kept attributed to fascism. i don't think that's the case. i think columbia is colluding with fascism because these are measure is that the university had been trying to implement all year long, but only felt emboldened to do so. as under the new trump government. and i think what alarms me is that a lot of students and faculty are self censoring right now to avoid the same political ross that and i need, i need, and others have faced at the, you know, columbia journalism school. i have cos mates who published articles anonymously when talking about palestine or just to avoid talking about it at all. and, and,

you know, even for me as an international student on a visa, i feel incredibly anxious just to leave the house of because i can get snatched off the streets at any moment with, with a 0 and community. nora, you're not doing well. you know, it's horrible to listen firsthand to the accounts of someone who says, i'm making choices about my bodily autonomy. you know, where i come and go, what i say online. that is really a state of terror, i think. and that's the point. the point is to create a climate in which people are worried to speak out, where they might weigh the choices in front of them and ultimately decide. mm, i think i'm actually gonna sit this out. and when that happens, that gives audit crowds that gives authoritarians, that gives it liberal and bigoted leaders, an opening to take more power. and so in a way, this free speech moment in the age of retaliation of revenge, of sort of the, the,

you know, free speech for trump, but for no one else. if he dislikes them, that has ultimately given people a kind of fear to take action and challenge him. and i would just remind all of us that the ground we feed, whether it's lawyers who are afraid of signing onto supporting brief when law firms get attacked through executive orders. whether it's in journalists who consider and ultimately are worried about the coverage that they may include and try to water down their coverage of trump. whatever the calculus is, we can't see the ground in a moment, just because we're afraid we have to keep moving forward and leveraging our voices . well, it's interesting at his joint address to congress in march us present. donald trump said he brought back free speech, but not everyone is convinced how did you hear the news? i saw government censorship and brought back free speech that america.

that's really trump brought free speech back except he didn't. because earlier that day, trump tourist on truth, social a threat to any college student who protests is real colleges could lose federal funding if they don't crack down on pro palestinian protests. foreign college students could be sent home or imprisoned, and even american college students are deprived of their 1st amendment rights. and it goes beyond that, the trumpet administration assigned executive orders that crack down on what people can teach in schools. they've targeted history curriculums for teaching the real racist history of this country. so tell me how to trump bring free speech back when you can't criticize a us ally. how is free speech being protected when college students could be imprisoned for exercising their rights? now fire, that's the organization that kind of represents on the polarization research lab at dartmouth college conducted some research in 2024. now this poll shows at 69 percent of americans feel that the country is on the wrong track when it comes to freedom of speech. now connor, you made

a very important point. in your pre interview, you said that you are freedom of speech lawyer. you defend speech, whether you agree with it or not, and that is the essence of free speech, isn't it? so what is trump doing? the trump is certainly not protecting free speech and the slightest. in his 1st couple of weeks in office, he signed an executive order of reporting to bring back free speech to the united states, veteran federal government, and just about every action before. and after that executive order has been the exact opposite of protecting free speech. what we've seen is attempts to go after law firms who represent causes that the administration doesn't like. those have been uniformly slapped down by the federal courts. many of the judges have been incredulous that the administration would even attempt something like going after attorneys, who, after all, are officers of a court merely for the causes interviews they represent. but this gets to a very real, i think,

misunderstanding of free speech. that's not only reflected by this administration, but reflected by many in this country and internationally about what free speech is . i think when you asked most people, if they believe in free speech, most people probably say yes. but for us, the question is, after you say, i believe in free speech, does that end with a period or does that end with a comma? but because so often when somebody professes to believe in free speech, big cup, they always seem to be able to think of an exception for why speech they disagree with shouldn't be protected. but the core of free speech is that whether you are pro is real or pro palestine or neutral, or anything else that you have the right to your own opinion. and you have the right to voice that opinion without interference from the government. because the only alternative is allowing the government to decide which your opinions are and aren't ok, and america's truth since $1791.00. since we ratified the 1st amendment,

is that we will never give the government the power to tell us of which ideas are and aren't ok for us. i think it's an extraordinary tomorrow. you said that you are fearful to leave your house because of the values and your political position. now, it's not just openly on campus, it's also on social media, right. a lot of people are fearful to express themselves openly. how would you describe the culture on social media? are you fearful that it's being monitored? a lot of student octave is particularly women, columbia are receiving rapes routes and got threats. and so it's, it's a very hostile environment, both online and offline. and i think particularly with the detention of it and i saw for publishing and all, but i think that particularly sense a very worrying trend for what you can say and cannot say online because i don't think it's necessarily protests that are happening in a, in

a physical and material way that are being targeted. i think any criticism of israel is, is, is perceived to be a threat to this government. but i would like to sort of contextualize that because i think a lot of the reason why we're having this discussion now is because of the detentions under, from, and, you know, when my food is detained, i was, you know, devastated and afraid for myself. but it didn't feel like an unfamiliar, unfamiliar political climate because students had been repressed for already quite some time about point. the 1st arrest that had been made against doing active us for protesting against the genocide happened under a bite in administration. there was a washington post investigation which revealed that new york, amir eric adams, who is a democrats, was clued in would sign his billionaires in a woodside group in order to make sure that these students were, you know,

are arrested. and so i think even in moments when it felt like there was a time where a free speech was protected, at least when it comes to a pound sign, there is sort of a, an illusion to that. because i think even in, in progressive spaces, which are supposed to be a safe space for dialogue. so yes, you can create, criticizes real but so long as you frame it as a critique of its right brain government but remains and permissible is criticizing the very notion that israel as a subtler a colonial project built on the ethnic cleansing of policy. and people has a right to exist. and so i think with trump at the state repression is very blunt and aggressive and it's in your face. but with democrats and liberals, rather than outright binding or speech, they've been for years trying to manage it, define its boundaries, sanitize its message,

and to make it more palatable. so yes, these, these detentions are, are unprecedented. but people have been losing so much for so long for speaking about palestine. nora, what is the, the legal recourse or any recourse that the ordinary person might got, grabbed off the street has, is this legal what is happening? can they fight it like the, or how does this works as well? so much of this is wrapped up in an and framed by the trump administration as part of their, you know, ability to crack down on immigration and the rise of immigrants who come to this country. and it is a convenient wedge to use students who have spoken out in support of palestinian rights because it's considered them so controversial in public discourse. and what we've really seen is very little improvement as the trump administration would love

to describe it as with deportations. these are actually incredibly dangerous periods for us. we have seen students and others picked up off the street in their homes near their homes, going to pick up their children from school. and many are essentially disappeared with forest removal. just to walk through a little bit of what's happening from a legal perspective. this includes a number of things. first with people like to know who would clearly all we know that his case included no arrest. there was no warrant. he really only was speaking out about a certain topic and when ice agents came to columbia university housing and picked him up, he didn't resist. he didn't do anything that would otherwise be contrary. he was picked up, he was then essentially disappeared. his lawyers couldn't find him all of this in violation of his basic due process rights. and that pattern has occurred over and over again with people who have been picked up, who are either legal,

permanent residents or otherwise have some protected status in this country. and so it's lies in the face of every single or constitution stands for. well, this country has been flawed forever. i would say since its inception, the very notion is it's a country that we fight for the free speech components of the 1st amendment that we have the right to speak to assemble, to think sense, to have ideas. and what we've learned from people like secretary of state, marco rubio, even anticipated belief speaks expected thoughts we might one day have. the hopes can ultimately become to portable offences that that flies in the face of the 1st amendment. and our due process rights. and it's very scary, certainly, connor we're running out of time. so i want to still get a couple of questions in your lore form. i believe represents a client that the trump administration is taking legal action against. are you

concerned that at some point something may happen to you or one of your colleagues? so a couple of things. one, we aren't actively representing any of the non citizens, the, the trump administration has targeted. we have filed a mixed cure. i brace friend of the court brace in support of both my move to leo and renee cl us, kirk and we stand ready and willing to assist those efforts. however we can. but what we're, what we're seeing and what's very troubling is that we hear from the administration protest that this is not about free speech. that there's, that, there's other evidence we don't know about these individuals. but now we know that's not true. a couple of weeks ago, a federal judge held an evidentiary here hearing and were major ostrich case and challenge the government to provide some basis other than her up ad for continuing to detain her. and not only did the government come with nothing, they had no exhibits, they had no witnesses, they didn't even cross examine her. so the idea that there's some secret,

a pile of evidence somewhere that would support detaining and reporting. so how does somebody find things, how, how, how, how do you counter this? the lawyers lawsuits, it takes vigilance it takes, it takes, frankly, non citizens who will be courageous enough to stand up and fight this in court like my mood, paralegal, and roommates. you're asked her are doing. this isn't a battle that is going to be one and a couple of weeks. this is going to take months and years of vigilance to keep the 1st amendment protection strong in the united states camera. um, there was a tutor system when it comes to free speech as well when it comes to americans when it comes to foreigners. you know, the united states has always been presented and perceived by those outside of it as the land of the, of the, of the free. i can come here with all my dreams. there is equal opportunities. i can build that. it seems under this us administration, it is only really whether they will agree with you if you get a fair chance,

how would you describe the america that you see today? i mean, i've been american educated my entire life. and the reason why i came to columbia and came to the us is because of the freethinking and crates of 80, that the american education system was intended to allow. and so i feel very disillusioned with the way things have have been here. i think it's been really incredibly difficult to complete my education while you know there is imminent threat to my, to my safety as well as other members of my community. i think what's difficult is you're not just worried about yourself. you're worried about your everyone that's sort of around you and i think we may not have control over which policies trump chooses to or not. but we do have control over as how we respond to them. and for

months people have been telling me that i'm so brave as an international student for continuing to speak about palestine well being in the us or so. but i don't feel very brave. i do. i do feel afraid. sometimes i just choose not to act on it, especially when i'm seeing all the images that are coming out of has to yesterday it was my graduation. and you know, just before i left the house, i was looking at an image of an elderly man and because there was solving because he had no honey and for 3 days under israel's blockade. and just a minute, before i stepped onto the stage to get my graduation diploma, i had received news, the ice prevented by him to lead from being able to hold his baby, which is absolutely devastating. so i think we can allow ourselves to, to be afraid and to be intimidated. and although yes,

international students are at risk, i think we need to recognize that there is a certain level of privilege though we have, by being here and studying in the west. and now more than ever, it's important for american citizens. both students and faculty, especially tenured, wants to, to step up and do everything they can to make sure that we're protected and not receive the step up. but that is all we have time for um, for this discussion. thank you so much. connor nora and tomorrow for joining us. and thank you all for being part of the conversation. and i'll see you soon. the a young couple with pets, but no children are increasingly common in china with roughly one and every 8 in residence, earning pet. it's the pros of an industry worth about $49000000000.00. it's become a trendy lifestyle. exemplified by places like this is an entire goal,

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