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tv   Outside Source  BBC News  April 25, 2017 9:30pm-10:00pm BST

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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. these are the main stories in the bbc newsroom right now. uk prime minister, theresa may, has taken her general election campaign to wales, with six weeks to go before polling day. voters traditionally back the labour party there but she urged them to turn to the conservatives. a vote for any other party would be a vote for a weak and failing jeremy corbyn, propped up by a coalition of chaos, which would risk our national future. the labour party has been detailing how that would oversee brexit negotiations. the tension around the korean peninsula continues to ratchet up. a us submarine has arrived in south korean waters. north korea is carrying out a large military drill and there are fears it could be planning another missile or nuclear test. ivanka trump has been talking about
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her father. he's been a tremendous champion of supporting families, and enabling them to thrive. let's hear from the founder of wikipedia, he has a brand—new project which has the purpose of taking on fake news. here isjimmy
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wales talking to me earlier about the initiative before we get into some questions. everybody has been talking about the problem of fake news, also we see low quality clip bait site which are polluting the internet so that's a fairly clear problem and i think part of the solution is to really look at the business model ofjournalism solution is to really look at the business model of journalism and solution is to really look at the business model ofjournalism and the production model so what i want to do is bring together good serious thoughtful community members like the wikipedia community, with professional journalists who work side—by—side to create something new, something different, in terms of quality journalism new, something different, in terms of qualityjournalism that has a community focus. i mentioned on twitter i would be talking to you and they have questions. how do you ensure the editors themselves will not be biased and not inject their own agenda? every news organisation has to deal with that and if you
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have an objective to be neutral you have an objective to be neutral you have got to keep challenging yourself, but in this case we also have an open community, much like at wikipedia where, if you see something that is biased, you can challenge it and discuss it with people. having that open system where everything is open to dialogue is helpful in terms of striving to become more neutral. here is one from you —— from a journalist in new delhi. yes, we will be hiring journalists, doing traditional things. full—timejournalists, with freelancers to fill in around the edges, but also community members who are well positioned to do an interview who may get paid, may not, depending on the context. this is simone, a journalist in frankfurt, who says what about information
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obtained by sources that either have to be or wish to be anonymous? the point here is to say you are absolutely right, not everything can be... you cannot show your work in all cases. when you cannot, that requires an additional level of thought and scrutiny from your editor, but in many cases traditionally newspapers didn't show all their work or provide all their sources because there wasn't space in the newspaper. now we are online, still a lot don't provide their sources. they could post a full transcript of their interview. not so transcript of their interview. not so much the people will read every transcript, but it means that outside people can do the matching up outside people can do the matching up and give it more of a level of credibility, to say all right, if the transcript is wildly different from the quote, somebody can raise
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that objection and say hey, hold on, that objection and say hey, hold on, thatis that objection and say hey, hold on, that is not fair representation. one more for you from kieron. for sure. one of the things we want from good qualityjournalists is to be that fact check on, for example, politicians. lots of news organisations do that, we want to do it as well, but these days we are also witnessing something which is relatively new, which is well funded, either possibly state funded oi’ funded, either possibly state funded orfunded by funded, either possibly state funded or funded by scammers, funded, either possibly state funded orfunded by scammers, basically funded, either possibly state funded or funded by scammers, basically a problem with scam, genuinely fake news. fake headlines being spread on social media. that is something we all need to get serious about, let's object to that and say hey, that's not right. thanks to jimmy wales for
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coming on and answering your questions. it is called wikitribune. on to sport, this is the premier league table. mark edwards is in the bbc sports centre. last time i checkedit bbc sports centre. last time i checked it was going to plan for chelsea. absolutely, it hasjust finished and chelsea have regained their 7—point lead at the top of the english premier league after beating southampton 4—2. a perfect four days for the londoners after knocking out totte n ha m for the londoners after knocking out tottenham hotspur in the fa cup semifinal. they have seen off saints at sta mford semifinal. they have seen off saints at stamford bridge and it's a good turn in form for chelsea, they have lost two games in their last four league matches, but now they have seen their lead cut from ten to four, now back to seven, and eden
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hazard scored after just four, now back to seven, and eden hazard scored afterjust five minutes directly from material from diego costa. southampton back into it through romeu, 20 minutes later, who certainly enjoyed scoring against his former club. diego costa's 50th premier league goal gave chelsea a 3—1 lead, he then scored again at the death and there was a nathan redmond goal a few moments before the end, 4—2. it's now over to tottenham hotspur, they ta ke now over to tottenham hotspur, they take on crystal palace on wednesday at selhurst park and they will be looking to regain or cut that lead at the top. thank you for the
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update. this is dale earnhardtjr. plans to retire from the nascar monster cup series at the end of the 2017 season. this guy is a legend. he's been most popular driver 14 times! he's had 603 starts 26 victories. he's had a rough time this year though and is recovering from concussions. this man is crawling the london marathon dressed as a gorilla, he's only about half—way through the course and he's two days after the race began. tom harrison, who calls himself mr gorilla, has the goalfinishing on his hands and knees, in aid of the gorilla organization. you can find more on that on the bbc news app. stay with us — in a few minutes we'll bring you a report from the us
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about efforts to combat the notorious central american criminal gang, ms13. tim farron has said he does not think gay sex is soon. the liberal democrat leader was speaking to political correspondent. i think it's fair to say i've answered the question. it's a subject he's been asked about again... you won't say whether you think having gay sex is a sin... and again... does the honourable member think that being gay is a sin? and again... you said, homosexuality is not a sin. they said that you didn't answer when they asked you whether gay sex was a sin. while he said being gay is fine, until today, the lib dem leader, a committed christian, has refused to answer this question.
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i don't believe gay sex is a sin. i take the view that, as a political leader, though, myjob is not to pontificate on theological matters. this had become a talking point, an issue. in that case, if people have kind of got the wrong opinion of what i think about these issues, then that's something it is right to correct. it's taken him almost two years, since becoming the leader of the lib dems, to clarify his position. but the pressure has increased since the election was called. so, what's changed in the last 48 hours that you are now able to say that you don't think gay sex is a sin, yet for the last two years you have very blatantly swerved the question? well, i'm quite careful how i talk about my faith. i'm not... i mean, i don't bang on about it. i don't make a secret out of it. so you were either misleading people before, or you are misleading people now. which is it? so the answer to that is that i was asked a question early on, and i didn't want to get into a sort of series of questions unpicking the theology of the bible.
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isn't itjust that it is your christian belief, and you didn't want to admit it? no, that's not the case. what i want is to make sure that we deal with something that's become an issue. so this is blatant electioneering? it's a sense of understanding that, you know, the questions were asked of me a week ago. i don't think people want political party leaders telling them what is and isn't sin. mr farron insisted the lib dems have undoubtedly the best record on gay rights out of all political parties. but it's clear the issue and the questions around it have troubled him personally, and politically, too. eleanor garnier, bbc news, westminster. this is outside source. our lead story concerns the election. uk prime minister theresa may
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has taken her general election campaign to wales, stressing the importance of a united kingdom in brexit negotiations. if you want more details on what the labour party has been saying about its position on brexit, you can find that online on the bbc news website right now. president trump has argued that violent crime in america is largely caused by illegal immigration. he has been saying the democrats don't want to give him money for the border wall despite the fact it will stop drugs and it will stop bad gang members from ms13. two things to note there. first, it's heavily disputed that that will have a significant impact on the flow of illegal drugs. and second, that reference to the ms13 gang. it's just made headlines because of brutal actions on long island. a week ago, four young men were murdered in a forest
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in a place called islip. nada tawfik has been there. this officer is on the lookout for central members of the gang ms13, whose brutality has cost so much freer here. ending up on the wrong side of this gang can mean a death sentence. flowers mark where 15—year—old niece was found, beaten to death by alleged members of ms13, the majority of whom were here illegally. president trump says it is precisely these cases that justify a crackdown on immigration. still in mourning, her parents say there was no reason their daughter
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had to die. they want police to take back the street as well as tougher screening of immigrants. when you come to the united states it's a dream, you want to make a dream for yourfamily, everyone dream, you want to make a dream for your family, everyone does. dream, you want to make a dream for yourfamily, everyone does. but some people just come yourfamily, everyone does. but some peoplejust come for yourfamily, everyone does. but some people just come for the wrong thing. president trump's campaign against illegal immigration has threatened the trust between the police and the latino community. police say they cannot fight gangs without information from the immigrant community, so the risk is that the very policies president trump champions to make communities safer a re trump champions to make communities safer are instead making them more dangerous. this commission says his officers will never act as immigration enforcers. winnie to make an environment in which people feel comfortable coming to the police department to provide information. the difficult
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challenges getting the word out. when there is this rhetoric it is ha rd to when there is this rhetoric it is hard to compete with that noise. at this refugee centre, the new residents are learning the language of their new home in one of the few places they feel safe. it is not the fear of gangs but the fear of deportation that makes them uncomfortable coming to the police. people won't stop the police to ask them anything for fear that without papers they might be arrested and deported. blaming crime on immigration was a key part of donald trump's campaign, but with crime, as with other things, the early days of his presidency show how hard it is to translate slogans into solutions. that's the story of ms 13 in long island. but this is a transnational gang. it has its roots in el salvador and there are over 2,500 members serving time in a prison there.
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and while many of the original members were from el salvador, the gang was properly established in los angeles and the san francisco during the 1980s. a short while ago, i spoke to bbc mundo's correspondent in los angeles, beatriz diez — she explained how this gang started. m513 ms13 was formed here in los angeles in the 19805 by immigrants who were fleeing el salvador‘s brutal civil warand fleeing el salvador‘s brutal civil war and also fleeing poverty and violence. and now that this group has existed for several decades, does it still consider california to be its base? actually what we are seeing now, and as was reported before, this late rise of crimes attribute it to this gang are happening on the east coast and that is an interesting development. a few
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months ago i was working around the streets of los angeles trying to do some research for a graphics '5 story and i saw the streets, and you can't really see much of the remains, but the graffiti is not so much related to ms13 or the other big gang operating in the 19805 in los angeles. in 1984 the olympics we re los angeles. in 1984 the olympics were being celebrated in los angeles, and the then—president ronald reagan wanted to try to clean the streets so to say, and there we re very the streets so to say, and there were very big crackdowns on the gangs. to what degree did the american authorities and el salvador authorities worked together on this? what we saw afterwards, after the
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19805 and in the 19905, there were many of these people, members of these gangs were deported back to el salvador and other central american countries, because there are also members from honduras, what a mahler and mexico, although mainly they we re and mexico, although mainly they were from el salvador. they were deported back and that's how they became so big in central america because they were coming back from california. if you speak spanish comic and get news through bbc ivanka trump has made herfirst foreign trip since being appointed advisor to the president. she's in germany, and has met angela merkel among others. jenny hill has more. taking her place among the world's most powerful women. the first daughter, rubbing shoulders with a chancellor, a queen and a banker. though, almost immediately,
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ivanka trump found herself defending a president. he's been a tremendous champion of supporting families, and enabling them to thrive. donald trump's special adviser persisted. as a daughter, i can speak on a very personal level, knowing that he encouraged me and enabled me to thrive. i grew up in a house where there was no barriers to what i could accomplish. and the first daughter has gone on to make powerfulfriends. she's accompanied her father to talks with the leaders of canada, japan and germany. her first solo overseas trip was at the direct invitation of the german chancellor. do you consider yourself a feminist? angela merkel‘s official agenda... interesting reaction! . . .empowering women and charming one in particular. berlin wants, needs, stronger ties to the trump administration. translation: it's the strategy
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of dialogue, that's the most important thing. you can reach trump through his daughter. every woman should do things by her own, by her own status and by her own positions, and not because of her father's position. what you're seeing here may well mark a profound shift in the way that germany, europe, does business with the united states. ivanka trump wields significant influence with her father. the relationship that angela merkel and other leaders strike with the first daughter will be closely scrutinised on both sides of the atlantic. expect to see more of the first daughter on the international stage. in the age of trump, it seems, family comes first. jenny hill, bbc news, berlin. rajini, ivanka trump and herfather
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we re rajini, ivanka trump and herfather were incredibly powerful before this trip but i guess this builds on that? of course there has been a lot of criticism about her role in the white house, people saying it is nepotism, but there are others, especially trump supporters i have spoken to, who like the fact she is in the white house. she's always seen in the white house. she's always seen by her father ‘s in the white house. she's always seen by her father '5 side and she's been credited for softening some of his policy stances. eric trump said it was her influence that was one of the guiding factors that led president trump to launch the air strike in syria. you have been talking to 100 voters during donald
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trump's first 100 days in office, here is a facebook live you have just done with three of them. the highlight | just done with three of them. the highlight i would say is the appointment ofjudge neil gorsuch. appointment of judge neil gorsuchlj think the lowlight was the reform of healthcare, the think the lowlight was the reform of healthca re, the willingness think the lowlight was the reform of healthcare, the willingness of this administration and the republicans in congress to allow 20 million americans to go without care was a tragedy. for me the highlight was alsojudge neil gorsuch. tragedy. for me the highlight was also judge neil gorsuch. the question i get asked most about american politics is to what degree did the people who voted for donald trump change his mind or not about his performance. i should say this
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was only 100 people so it is not a survey, just our own focus group, but of 50 people who voted for donald trump who i contacted again, only two of them said they wouldn't vote for him again. one of them said it was because of the strikes in syria, another said it was because she was on the fence when she voted for him in the first place. broadly speaking every trump supporter i have spoken to is happy with what he has done. they said he has done exactly what he said he would do, the travel ban, getting the wall under way, and one of the things that comes up most is the appointment ofjudge neil gorsuch. that is why they say they are happy. conversely, on the 50 who didn't vote for donald trump, only about two said they would vote for him now and they were republicans who were on the fence, but every democrat i have spoken to cannot find much good
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to say about their president. where can we find all of these conversations you have been having? you can find it on the bbc website, on the us and canada section, and there will be case studies about the people i have spoken to in the past few weeks about president trump's first 100 days. thank you, rajini. there will be more coming on the website is the week goes on. i should also mention that if you have a smartphone you can open your app store, download the bbc news app. that's it for this edition, see you tomorrow, goodbye. it certainly was a cold start of the
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day on tuesday with sunshine for many but showers developed quite widely with rain, hail and sleet, and even some snow. there was snow in staffordshire, settling on the roofs, ca rs in staffordshire, settling on the roofs, cars and bushes but not on the road. it will be another day of showers but the focus shifts to central and eastern parts of england. moving north into scotland there will be a fair bit of cloud here and rain to go with that, but i don't think we will see too much in the way of wintry weather. northern ireland, sunny spells and a scattering of showers. through the midlands and eastern parts of england that we will see those showers, thunder and hail mixed in with the rain, but good spells of sunshine here. we will see extra cloud and patchy rain drifting in
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from the atlantic, that will help keep temperatures up in scotland, northern ireland and england too, but further south it will turn quite chilly. the touch of frost for some on thursday morning. thursday itself, we have this week whether from drifting southwards, is close to the area of high pressured to the west. we will see the cloud thickening, maybe some patchy rain later on. at the same time it should brighten up in scotland. temperatures range from 9 degrees in aberdeen to about 13 in london. if you look at the average temperature from thursday onwards, there is a trend to see something warm but it looks like the highest temperature could be coming injust after the bank holiday weekend is over. as we go through thursday night into friday, still got these weak weather fronts draped across the uk. most of the rain will have fizzled out by
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this stage. still some showers dotted around but a fair bit of cloud and some sunshine, and a good deal of fairly dry and bright weather. then as we head towards the start of the weekend, we have got a week whether from drifting start of the weekend, we have got a week whetherfrom drifting its start of the weekend, we have got a week whether from drifting its way into the south—west of the uk. there's a lot of dry and bright weather to be had on saturday, maybe some showers in scotland but most places will be fine and dry. then we see question is developing saturday night into sunday about this area of low pressure. at the moment it looks like it will be picking up the wind in the south—west of the uk, and rain arriving here. that rain moving a little bit north and west at the same time so many northern and eastern areas at the moment looks like they will have a pretty nice day. we have this low—pressure drifting northwards so it looks like it will bring rain to many parts of
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the uk. as we look beyond the bank holiday, this high pressure will be drifting in from the east and that should settle things down eventually. it may start off windy in the north and west of the uk but i think that will ease down. then we will see a good deal of sunshine coming in with that high pressure, and it will get a good deal warmer. the big question is how quickly that transition to something warm is and how high temperatures will go. tonight at ten: labour sets out its strategy for negotiating britain's exit from the european union. it leaves open the possibility of going back to the negotiating table, if the brexit deal is rejected by parliament. and in a major policy move the party makes a stand on the rights of eu nationals in the uk after brexit. on day one of a labour government, we will immediately guarantee that all eu nationals currently living in the uk will see no change in their
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legal status as a result of brexit. day one — big commitment. but theresa may, campaigning in the traditional labour heartland of south wales, said there was only one option for a strong approach to brexit. we wa nt we want to get votes and support here in wales, because that will strengthen my hand in the brexit
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