tv Victoria Derbyshire BBC News September 5, 2017 9:00am-10:59am BST
good morning. welcome to the programme. our top story today — north korea's been accused of "begging for war" by the states as the crisis continues to escalate. continuation of the current policy will bring about serious consequences. this is what north korea can do. that has all that north korea can do is produce weapons that go boom. the abusive use of missiles and his nuclear threats show that he is begging for war. is some form of military intervention now inevitable? we will discuss. plus this programme has been told that at least 20 people who survived or witnessed the grenfell tower fire have tried to take their own lives over the last three months. we'll hear from charities supporting the survivors. and as sex workers tell this programme about the violence they have been subjected to from clients, we will hear more called the decriminalisation of the industry. the person just put his hands around my neck and then he keep on pressing with one hand on my throat. theyjust went with knives and theyjust took all the money.
a full exclusive report in about 15 minutes. hello. welcome to the programme, we're live until 11am. throughout the morning the latest breaking news and developing stories — and, as always, really keen to hear from you. a little later we'll pay tribute to 21—year—old journalist dean eastmond, who died of cancer at the weekend. his poignant writing about living with cancer at such a young age moved many. his boyfriend and brother willjoin us after ten. also his best friend. tweet us, use the hashtag #victorialive. if you text, you will be charged
at the standard network rate. our top story today. south korea's navy has staged a major exercise off the country's east coast — as a show of strength to north korea following its latest nuclear test. it said pyongyang's forces would be buried at sea in the event of further provocation. the united states has warned the un security council that kim jong un is begging for war. the time has come to exhaust all of our diplomatic means before it's too late. we must now adopt the strongest possible measures. kim jong—un‘s action cannot be seen as defensive. he wants to be acknowledged as a nuclear power. but being a nuclear power is not about using those terrible weapons to threaten others. nuclear powers understand their responsibilities. kim jong—un shows no such understanding. his abusive use of missiles and his nuclear threats show that he is begging for war. war is never something the united states wants.
we don't want it now, but our country's patience is not unlimited. we will defend our allies and our territory. our china correspondent john sudworth is in dandong, on the border between china and north korea. the chinese city of dandong where i'm standing is a very good position from which to contemplate china's role in the north korean crisis. if we pan the camera across, you can see just how close the two countries are at this point, connected by the iron bridge behind me. and almost all of north korea's trading goods, as well as its vital crude oil supply, flows across this border. you can see a dilapidated north korean power station on the other side there, a sign of its antiquated energy infrastructure. donald trump's argument, of course, is china could, if it wanted to, choke north korea into submission by turning off the tap on this lifeline, but when you look at this proximity, you can understand why the chinese leadership sees things
very differently indeed. the idea of pushing north korea towards regime collapse would bring chaos, instability, factional infighting, the possibility of war in a state that already has its hands on nuclear weapons, which is why beijing won't contemplate the idea of a total trade embargo. it won't contemplate the idea of military action. it has insisted all along that the only way to resolve this crisis is, as unpalatable to washington as it may be, is for the us to sit down with north korea at the negotiation table and for a return to dialogue. we can now speak to our correspondent robin brant, who is monitoring events from the south korean capital seoul. in the last hour the russian president has said that any new sanctions on north korea will not
make any difference? vladimir putin making his position very, very clear, talking at the end of the two taser met in china near to where john is. he has described the prospect of a global catastrophe if the continued military ramping up continues at this place. he has said it is hysterical, and on the issue of further sanctions he says they would be useless and ineffective. that is not an example of unity among, certainly, the permanent members of the united nations security council. there is a divide between russia and china on one side, the united states on the other. in the middle you have south korea, this morning south korea yet again demonstrated its military capabilities with the naval live firing exercise following on from the airforce firing exercise following on from the air force and the army carrying
out similar exercises yesterday, to show the north and anyone else watching what their capabilities are, to defend their country and maybe even attack the north. at the same time this country is led by president moon, who wants to extend the olive branch to the north and perhaps even look at opening negotiations once again. thank you very much, robin brant. joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of today's news. this programme has been told that at least 20 survivors and witnesses of the grenfell tower fire have attempted suicide. charities silence of suicide and justice for grenfell say they base the claim on conversations with those supporting residents, though the bbc has been unable to independently verify the figure. they are calling for better long—term mental health provision for those affected. the brexit secretary david davis will face questions in the commons this afternoon as mps return to westminster after the summer break. he will give an update on last week's third round of negotiations with the european union as downing street promises to intensify its approach to the talks.
one of britain's the senior counterterrorism officers has warned the terror threat level will remain at severe for at least the next five... five years. neil basu, the national co—ordinator for counter—terrorism policing, described the risk to the uk as an unknown threat in our midst. he warned isolated communities and unregulated schooling in the uk were a breeding ground for extremism. there are currently about 600 active counter—terrorism investigations. a 14—year—old boy is in critical condition in hospital and 17—year—old has suffered life changing injuries in a double shooting in london. the metropolitan police said there were serious concerns of retaliation and extra officers are on the streets. no arrests have been made. the met said that they were taken to an east london hospital.
a report into whether social services failed a young girl who was murdered by her mother will be published today. ayeeshia smith died in 2014 aged 21 months. she had been left in the care of her mother, kathryn smith, despite concerns raised by other relatives. the findings of a serious case review will be published at midday. bangladeshi officials say they are running out of space to accommodate the growing number of rohingya muslims fleeing their homes in myanmar. nearly 90,000 people have left myanmar since the army there began a campaign against extremist groups. many say they were attacked by troops and buddhist mobs. sex workers say they are being left more vulnerable to attack by laws making it illegal for them to share premises for safety. sex workers who have spoken to this programme say laws around brothel keeping force women to work alone in order to avoid prosecution. the sale and purchase of sexual services between consenting adults is legal in england and wales, but acts such as soliciting and brothel keeping are illegal. they are calling for the whole industry to be decriminalised. solar storms may have played a role
in the fatal stranding of sperm whales last year on the coasts of britain, germany, france and the netherlands. scientists say the 29 whales were young and free of disease — but their navigational abilities may have been disrupted by the storms, which distort the earth's magnetic field. other researchers say the theory is plausible but argue it's impossible to prove. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 9:30am. thank you for your tweets and e—mails, we appreciate them every day, particularly because you have experience of lots of the stories we bring you. we will talk about sex workers and the violence that some are subjected to and what would better protect them in the next few minutes. james saysis them in the next few minutes. james says is a gay male sex worker i place myself at risk every day working alone and hotel toilets. the
law should protect sex workers, not put them at risk. your views are welcome, particularly if you have pertinent experience. use the hashtag #victorialive. you can use e—mail, whatsapp etc. olly is here, it is been a good international break for the home nations but dele alli may be in trouble? inglot won 2-1 against the bucket to stay top of their group, but dele alli might have explaining to do. —— england won. rashford made a terrible mistake in the first couple of minutes, he gave away the ball and the slovakian player finished off a lovely ball to him. eric dier equalised by half—time, rashford made amends, a lovely finish. but in the last 15 minutes dele alli had just been fouled, did not get a free kick, seems to be flicking the middle finger towards
the referee. he was very quick afterwards to say he was justjoking with his good friend and former team—mate kyle walker, not at the referee at all. we will see a fifa buy that. what about the manager?” have not seen but i have been made aware of it. dele and kyle were mucking about. i don't know what has been visible on the picture, what the angle of the picture was. they have a strange way of communicating, the pairof them, have a strange way of communicating, the pair of them, but that is what they have said when i have raised it. i have not seen it myself. they were making light of that last night, we will see what the referee's report will say. england need two points from their last couple of matches next month against slovenia and lithuania. good news for scotland and northern ireland, finishing second?
it is all in scotland's hands to finish second behind england in the same group. they beat malta last night, is very easy win for scotland, christophe berra and leigh griffiths got the gold is at hampden park. slovakia and slovenia away. winds will see the scots finish second and a chance of making the play—offs. it is in their hands. it is very complicated as to how... you finish second and get into the play—offs or not. we know northern ireland have finished second in group c, getting the runners—up spot, making it five in a row in qualifying. they should be one of the best runners—up or two games to play, jonny evans and chris brunt got the goals, a lovely free kick seeing them beat the czech republic last night. it has been two years since they conceded a competitive goal at windsor park. that will be tested against germany next month, but as i say they are sure to finish
second. germany coming here, it would be nice to take an extra point. if we need something in the final two games we will have to get it, that simple. we are in a very strong position, it is almost —— almost been flawless, to be honest. seven clean sheets in eight games, the only defeat away to germany. as a coach and manager there is little you can ask more from your players, they keep delivering. northern ireland punching above their weight on the international stage. wales play moldova, they could move to second of the republic of ireland slip up against moldova. roger federer and rafa nadal play tomorrow in the tennis, on a collision course for a semifinal. x factor plays one martin del potro. the russian teenager andrey rublev is has set up a quarterfinal against nadal, the 19—year—old came through
overnight after beating ninth seed david goffin. would you believe it, here's the first teenagers and andy roddick in 2001, to make it this far in the men's straw. it is all about nadal or federer, who comes through the semifinal. thank you. more sport throughout the morning. in the uk, thousands of people sell sexual services for money. it is not illegal to sell sex, but almost every activity associated with the trade, from brothel keeping to soliciting, is. so many women and some men, faced with the prospect of being charged with an offence, take risks to avoid being caught. this can leave them vulnerable to attacks and violence and often too frightened to report what has happened to the police. arguments about decriminalisation are as old as the industry itself, but after rigged recommended a
change in the law last year, campaigners are stepping up their efforts. susie, not her real name, isa efforts. susie, not her real name, is a former sex worker and activist. she has made a film for you arguing that decriminalisation of the industry is key to making sex workers safer. the person came up, nothing wrong. discussed the price. agreed a time. paid. and in the time of the service, the person just put his hands around my neck and then he keep on pressing with one hand on my throat and keep on punch me into the face until i passed out. five or six different guysjust came inside of the house. the security opened the door for them. and then theyjust went with knives and theyjust took all the money. ok, my name is susie.
0k, my name is susie. i have worked in the sex industry on and off in my adult life. i've worked always for myself. i've never had a boss or a manager. there's a perception that sex work is inherently degrading, that it's morally wrong, but when you look at it compared to the other low paid, long hours, incredibly physically demanding jobs, it's often the best choice for people because it is less hours for more money, means you can have more time out to be with your children, be with your family, do your studies, change your life, than you would if you were working a 40—hour plus week for minimum wage. according to one estimate, there are nearly 73,000 sex workers in the uk today.
with 32,000 in london alone. there's no doubt that some of those people are coerced into selling sex. in 2014, for example, there were 1,139 victims of trafficking for sexual exploitation in the uk. but, to be clear, this film isn't about people who are coerced into prostitution against their will. it's about people who have made a decision to work in the sex industry and how the law often fails to protect those people. in the uk, the sale and purchase of sexual services between consenting adults is legal. but almost everything around it is illegal. there's a variety of offences you can been charged with as a sex worker. there's loitering and soliciting which are most often used against street—based sex workers. and brothel keeping, which is used against indoor—based sex workers and there's also something called prostitute's caution where a police officer can serve you a caution without you having to accept it and it will stay on your record if they suspect you of being
a sex worker. the rules against brothel keeping in particular mean that women often feel unable to work together as a common—sense safety measure, which inevitably leaves sex workers more vulnerable. i'm maria from portugal. i'm a sex worker. maria, not her real name, says she was working with a group of women at a brothel in london when she became the victim of an armed robbery. i was in a house working with a few different girls and then five or six different guys just came inside of the house. the security opened the doorfor them. and then theyjust went with knives and they just took all the money. and they were not really violent, but it was really scary.
after they left, ijust make sure that the door was closed, so i went close the door and i went to my room straight away to call the police. the police arrived soon after to investigate but maria explained that the police seemed to be as interested in the work going on the premises as in the robbery itself. they weren't interested in the robbery. they said they would look on cctv, the cameras. they asked about the guys that went there. but actually, they were talking more about the work inside of the place, how much money they got, how many girls, how many customers. a week later after the robbery, she received a letter from the police threatening the women working at the premises. this letter was saying that we should definitely leave. they didn't say that we need to leave the place, but if you stay there you could go to jail or be deported or something,
because we were working as they say in a brothel. maria explained that it is for precisely this reason that sex workers are often reluctant to report violent crime to the police for fear of being investigated themselves. so the girls don't call the police because if they call the police, the police willjust see the place that they are working and they will say to leave or something and they can't keep working there and they need places to work. maria's story is far from unique. she told us that because violent criminals know sex workers are unlikely to report those kinds of crimes, they deliberately target women working together on brothels. i was hearing from different girls that they get robbed in a house, the same story with five or six men and then they were with knives, sometimes with guns and acid, and theyjust was hitting the girls, raping the girls, so i knew that it was happening, but i was not sure it
would happen with me. i'm originally from romania. i'm a sex worker. i've been a sex worker for the last five years. i've been working in soho ever since. suzanne, once again not her real name, has an even more shocking story to tell. like many sex workers, suzanne says that sex work is the best option for her. it offers flexibility and allows her to fund her studies. i am absolutely fine with it. there is no issue around it as long as you don't get raided by the police or if i don't get violence. she has no objection to the work itself but, like maria, she's says that the current legal framework leaves her vulnerable. as i've learned being in the sex industry, i learned that
a perpetrator will always stick to attack someone who is vulnerable, a perpetrator will always seek to attack someone who is vulnerable, who is not protected by the law and we, as sex workers, are not protected by the law. it's illegal for working with someone for safety. it is illegal to change shifts. and so the perpetrator willjust do it because he knows he won't be prosecuted. as the police, over time and time again, every time even myself reports violence, i end up getting threatened to be arrested and prosecuted for working in a brothel. and then, next time i suffer violence, i sure as hell won't report it. it doesn't matter what i do was a job. yes, i understand i am a sex worker for a living, but i deserve the same human rights as everybody else. sadly, some years ago, suzanne was the victim of a violent attack while she was at work. the person came up, nothing wrong, discussed the price.
agreed a time. paid. and in the time of the service, the personjust put his hands around my neck and then he keep on pressing with one hand on my throat and keep on punching me to the face until i passed out. i was in agony. i was bleeding from my mouth. during the attack i lost two teeth. the person was there to kill me. that's it. i was lucky because i passed out. if i wasn't going to pass out at the time, he would have done it until i was definitely dead. fortunately, suzanne was working with someone that night, her receptionist, who was eventually able to call for medical help. but she believes that, had she been working alone, she might not have survived the attack. if it wasn't for her that night, no one could have woken me up. because of her experience, suzanne now feels obliged to work illegally.
even though selling sex for money isn't in itself illegal, by working with just one other person, she could be prosecuted for brothel keeping. despite this, she has chosen to be on the wrong side of the law because she believes that's the only way to work safely. i would rather work illegally but go home safe. i know how the legislation regarding prostitution, working with someone for safety or sharing the premises with another sex worker stands. but i would rather be prosecuted than dying. i want to go home. i have a family myself. they don't know what i do for a living. but, if anything happens to me and they find out the way i've died or being severely injured, they are going to have to find out, then i don't want that. i would rather go home. i think from my own experience what i do know is that often women
go into sex work because it's a better choice. nicky adams from the english collective of prostitutes, a campaigning organisation of sex workers and former sex workers that's been in existence since the 19705, explains that, farfrom these being marginal concerns, the same grievances are heard incredibly frequently. you know that by going into sex work, you are taking a risk because there is a lot of violence and that is a primary concern for all of us. safety is a primary concern. at every turn, the laws, the prostitution laws, sabotage our efforts to keep safe, so it illegal to work together in premises. if you work together with somebody else on the street, you're much more likely to come to the attention of the police. you suffer anti—social behaviour orders. on the street, which then, if you breach them, you can end up in prison. the same with working from premises. you can be prosecuted for brothel keeping just literally for working
together with another woman, and we have heard of many, many situations where women come forward to report violence and instead of the attackers being pursued and investigated and prosecuted by the police, sex workers get prosecuted for prostitution offences instead and that is appalling, because when that happens, word goes around very quickly and it's a big deterrent for anybody else to come forward and report violence. in 2016, a group of mps on the home affairs select committee recognised the problems resulting from brothel keeping legislation and recommended a change in the law. but shortly afterwards the government decided they didn't have enough evidence to introduce the changes. we spoke to the home office for this film and a spokesperson told us that the government still has no plans to change the law around prostitution despite the home affairs select committee's recommendations. at the moment, even though
sex work isn't illegal, we work in a heavily criminalised environment where many people are far too scared to go to the police or go to other authorities when they are in danger. the thing that sex workers want is full decriminalisation of sex work. what that means is treating it just like any otherjob. for example, if you're working in a brothel and you have a manager who helps work out shifts and deal with customers and pay the rent, then if they begin sexually harassing you, you could go to the police and report them for this. you could take them to court and have them charged with sexual harassment. but as long as the law continues to act as an incentive to unsafe working practices, more sex workers like the women we've heard from in this film will be at risk of violence and abuse. the metropolitan police told us: "prostitution is a complex area and there is not a single solution. since 2012 we have developed strong
working relationships with a number of sex worker support agencies and begun to change the way we work with sex workers directly." a viewer says, "we know this. prostitution should be legalised to safeguard both workers anduresers. let's be adult about it." this text from someone who doesn't give their name, "decriminalisation will put more sex workers on view on our streets. selling sex should be illegal." matt on facebook says, "we should house sex workers in large buildings like in germany and other european countries with proper security on the door. whether people agree with prostitution or not, it is safer for the client and the worker if it's properly regulated." john says, "sex work is an essential
pa rt john says, "sex work is an essential part of society and the it will not get proper protection until members of parliament grow up and get with the real world." we will talk more about it after 10am. still to come: a report into the involvement of social services and agencies connected with ayeeshia—jane smith who was stamped to death by her mother has just been published. tributes are paid to dean eashmond who died on sunday. joanna gosling is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of today's news. south korea's navy has staged a major exercise of the country's east coast is a show of strength to north korea following its latest nuclear
test. it said pyongyang's forces would be buried at sea in the event of further provocation. the united states has warned the un security council by kim jong unis begging for war. this programme has been told that at least 20 survivors and witnesses of the grenfell tower fire have attempted suicide. charities silence of suicide and justice4grenfell say they base the claim on conversations with those supporting residents, though the bbc has been unable to independently verify the figure. they are calling for better long—term mental health provision for those affected. the brexit secretary david davis will face questions in the commons this afternoon as mps return to westminster after the summer break. he will give an update on last week's third round of negotiations with the european union as downing street promises to intensify its approach to the talks. one of britain's the senior counterterrorism officers has warned —— one of britain's most senior counter—terrorism officers has warned that the terror threat level will remain at severe for at least the next five years.
neil basu, the national co—ordinator for counter—terrorism policing, described the risk to the uk as an unknown threat in our midst. he warned isolated communities and unregulated schooling in the uk were a breeding ground for extremism. there are currently about 600 active counter—terrorism investigations. a report into whether social services failed a young girl who was murdered by her mother will be published today. ayeeshia jane smith died in 2014 aged 21 months. she had been left in the care of her mother, kathryn smith, despite concerns raised by other relatives. the findings of a serious case review will be published at midday. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10am. fifa will wait for the referee's report at wembley before deciding whether england's dele alli should be charged with making an obscene hand gesture. he says it was a joke with the team—mates are not directed at the match official. england came
from behind to beat slovakia 2—1, marcus rashford with the winner, to keep them top of the group. two points in the last two matches will see them qualified for russia. scotla nd see them qualified for russia. scotland beat malta 2—0, wins in their last two game should put them in the play—off position in england's group. northern ireland look very good for a play—off spot, their win over the czech republic in belfast assures them of second place in that group. and the 19—year—old russian andrey rublev has become the first teenagers since 2001 to reach the us open quarterfinals. he plays his childhood hero rafa nadal next. roger federer also came through his last 16 on march overnight. i will be back in around half an hour with a full update. this programme has been told that at least 20 people who survived or witnessed the grenfell tower fire have since attempted to take their own lives. we've been unable to independently verify the figure — but have heard it from groups supporting survivors. almost three months on, it's clear the deeply traumatic
effects of that night are being felt notjust by those who lived in the tower but their relatives, neighbours and friends. yvette greenway runs the silence of suicide charity, which has been offering support for trauma victims in the area. and judy bolton is a nurse who's been co—ordinating volunteers on the ground on behalf of the justice4grenfell group. welcome, both of you. thank you very much for coming into the programme. yvette, you have met a number of survivors and help them, what kind of problems that they are experiencing? where to start, victoria? this experiencing? where to start, victoria ? this is experiencing? where to start, victoria? this is the problem. they go from practical everyday issues in relation to benefits, housing, just eating in some cases. eating? where they warm up food. some hotel rooms don't have facilities so they can't heat food if they have it. i say
simple things, they are huge things within the bigger picture. then you have the psychological impact, you have the grieving, the trauma, you have ptsd, anxiety, depression, self harm and, sadly, suicide. and how do you respond to this figure that at least 20 people have attempted to take their own lives? i think, like everyone in the country, we sincerely hope that is not the case. one suicide is too many. from a situation that should never have arisen, that was com pletely preve nta ble, never have arisen, that was completely preventable, it makes it even more tragic. wejust hope it is not true. it is very difficult to verify this information, but we put it out there because even if it is just one suicide, it is one too many and it means that somewhere along the line something is failing, we
are not reaching those people properly, the people that need help, so we desperately need to address that. judy, you have been a nurse for a long time, what do you think about the mental health provision for helping those who have survived and witnessed what happened that night? about the mental health provision has been appalling. it has been slow, it has not even been recognised. from day one, everybody saw it on the news, how horrific this atrocity was, there was a lot of help from the community, but it was almost like it was put to the side. yet at that time, people watching on tv were shocked and could not believe it. you try living that, people not evenjust from could not believe it. you try living that, people not even just from the tower but from the lancaster west walkways, people who live there,
they saw the tower burn. you don't get that out of your mind. people saw others jump from windows, children being dropped from windows. and not every child that was dropped was caught. so we live with that every day. you see the building, you see grenfell, it is fair on the horizon, we live with it. the fact that people had to ask and come out... later, theresa may had gold command, which was many weeks after. what survivors were told to do was to present themselves at the west ways to say they feel that they need mental health support. if you are that traumatised, if you are in a flat or a hotel, isolated, that traumatised, if you are in a flat ora hotel, isolated, on that traumatised, if you are in a flat or a hotel, isolated, on your
own, you don't even know that you need to go and help. and so the nhs team had run out and they were knocking on doors and leafleting and saying that they are a bit fed up with this knocking on their doors. so when we have the last public meeting we asked the nhs where are your meeting points, if you are not going to these people, where are they? the head of the team did not know. she said let me speak to one of myjunior colleagues. know. she said let me speak to one of my junior colleagues. and know. she said let me speak to one of myjunior colleagues. and he said if you go to the website they have said two people... well, to the gps, because my gp came to that meeting, the gps in the area have been told we have cove red the gps in the area have been told we have covered the mental health, they are seen within five days and once they have had the assessment they are followed up, people should have key and support workers. that
information is not getting through. that is why we have people who are attempting suicide, they are living with survivor guilt, with memories of that night. it plays over and overin of that night. it plays over and over in your head. you do not sleep. sorry to interrupt but i talked to one man who got out of the tower with his family and he said in the day we see the tower, we see the blackened shell, when i close my eyes at night i see it, i see people jumping. it lives with you. again, i don't like the term mental health in that it still carries a very ugly stigma even though it should not... we are trying to change that. but even my gp said what they want to call it is bereavement and trauma counselling, because that in itself
cove rs counselling, because that in itself covers the post—traumatic stress, the self harm, the nightmares, the horrors. we have a really solid mental health team in ladbroke grove, we have a hospital, adult mental health, children's mental health. many of them have said that they presented themselves at gold command and said what can we do? oh, we have this under control. and it wasn't, and people are still suffering. people are frightened to sleep at night in their building, and so they walk the streets. we have volunteers who will actually be out at three o'clock sitting with people so they are safe. sorry, they are frightened to be in a building at my time? so they would prefer to wander the streets? absolutely. my goodness. because it is that trauma. also we have had a situation, the
police are very much aware, that there has been an influx of drugs coming into the area, because people are so coming into the area, because people are so traumatised that some will self medicaid. that is not the answer, but i can understand but —— some will self medicated. what are they doing to support the crime that is going on, taking advantage of vulnerability and the trauma they are going through. event, are you seeing the self—medication with alcohol and drugs? it is rife. we have heard from lots of people, groups and volunteers that people are increasingly turning to substance abuse as a way of escaping this horrible reality. it is like a living nightmare, they don't know what else to do. every time we have reported grenfell, and it has been many times that we have spoken to many times that we have spoken to many survivors, we have a light on the failings of the mental health
provision. to hear that people are still being failed in this crucial area... it is par for the course with mental health, i know you don't like the term, but i think we have to say it in order to be more accepting, this is part of the problem, this stigma. it always ta kes problem, this stigma. it always takes second place. the ongoing cuts over successive yea rs, takes second place. the ongoing cuts over successive years, people were warning that this would happen. hey, ho, we have come to a situation like grenfell, we don't have the stuff, don't have properly qualified staff or 11 situation to deliver what is neededin or 11 situation to deliver what is needed in this grotesque situation. even on your show, you did a lot of cove rage even on your show, you did a lot of coverage on people's fears and everything else, but one of the things that the media has done is really demonise the people who live in grenfell. really demonise the people who live in gre nfell. there really demonise the people who live in grenfell. there has been a lot of
rhetoric and talk, even theresa may spoke on, well, you know, the illegals that are there, please come forward , illegals that are there, please come forward, it will not damage your state, we want to make sure you are safe. in that building was a community. we had moroccan, colombian, third, fourth generation londoners, west indian, portuguese, yes, somalian... londoners, west indian, portuguese, yes, somalian. .. we londoners, west indian, portuguese, yes, somalian... we are such a diverse community that works together, but all that was shown was women wearing the hijab, with their children, speaking with non—english accents. we have had racist hate mail, people telling them go back to where you came from, why are you in this area? you yourself covered that, people said we are afraid to say... this is it. all of that brings a really negative image.
these are ha rd—working brings a really negative image. these are hard—working people, solid in the community. people had bought their properties, nurses, policemen, teachers, all sorts lived there. why have they been left? why have they been neglected? again, it was to do with the social gentrification of the area and also because we are considered lesser human beings. people are suffering. the children especially are incredibly traumatised. they are starting to go back to school and we want to know have the schools been given adequate support to support not the children from grenfell support to support not the children from gre nfell but support to support not the children from grenfell but children who had their friends who will not be at school this term. how do they support? i think that is a problem for decades to come, there needs to be ongoing mental health provision
in place to support these children as they grow older, they will need it, without a doubt. they have really, really failed us. thank you for joining really, really failed us. thank you forjoining us. the deputy leader of the council says that the royal borough of kensington and chelsea is dedicated to dealing with this tragedy. there is at dedicated number —— a dedicated number, 0800 0234 650, and on the nhs website that is... we can also reveal this morning that
some residents who escaped the tower block that morning on 14th june are finally getting some of their possessions back. whilst most of the flats were totally destroyed, 33 flats on the lower floors had limited damage, meaning some belongings survived the fire. this programme can reveal that so far 12 families from grenfell tower have received property from their old homes. one of those is 69—year—old rumayatu mamudu, who escaped from the first floor in her dressing gown carrying her 12—year—old adopted grandson. our reporter ashleyjohn baptiste has been following her story. we're at a hotel in west london where some grenfell survivors are being reunited with personal possessions that survived the fire. we are here with rumayatu mamudu, a grenfell resident who we've been following since the fire. we are here to see some of the items in my flat. what thoughts do you have on that?
how are you feeling about seeing some of the items that have been in your flat at grenfell tower? mixed feelings. yeah? let's have a look. and these are possessions of mrs mamudu's from her flat at grenfell tower? that's right. do you want to have a look? would you like me to take some out? how about this one?
do you recognise it? the colour has changed. you've got your national insurance card back. you're going to need that. yay! my gemini stone. is that really important to you? it is. wow, that's interesting. that's good. yes! talk to me about why you're so happy. my late husband's watch. does that not make me happy? so it's been over two months now since you lost your flat. you're still living in a hotel. but you have received some of your possessions from the flat.
what sort of consolation is that for you? to me, actually, the consolation was that i was alive. all this are materialistic things. i'm happy i got them, but my life was more important. yeah. as soon as they start letting me build my life again, then the sooner there will be closure. even if i got all these things back, there is no closure because i don't have a roof. i don't have my self—respect. i don't have dignity. i have nothing. even though she has some of her jewellery back, the majority of mrs mamudu's possessions remain in the tower. she's just one of 12 families to be reunited with their belongings so far but, for the majority of residents who survived, there's nothing left to be returned. ashley john—ba ptiste with that
report and we'll continue to follow the stories of grenfell survivors over the coming months and years. next, we're going to turn our attention to what's going on in a country over 5,000 miles away, myanmar, which was formerly known as burma. more than 87,000 muslim civilians known as the rohingya are estimated to have fled across the border to bangladesh in the past ten days to escape violence. the rohingya are a stateless muslim ethnic minority who have faced persecution in myanmar. many of those who have fled describe troops and buddhist mobs burning their villages and attacking civilians. this is the mainland route
say they have been walking for several days from their villages before they are able to get to this point. and, before that, they have to make sure they are not detected by the myanmar police or border patrols because there is every chance of being shot. once they get here, though, the bangladesh authorities are now letting them in. this is the first real shelter that the refugees have got. it's the local village school. we're in first village after the border and here they get a bit of protection from the elements. it's been raining. they're able to cook a little meal. but it's only temporary. they are here for a day, maybe two days, before they move onto one of the major refugee camps.
that's where the government and aid agencies are present and they get bit more support. islamic countries across asia are calling on the myanmar government and its unofficial leader nobel prize winner, aung san suu kyi, to end the military campaign against the rohingya muslim minority. pakistan, malaysia, bangladesh and indonesia have all demanded a swift resolution to the crisis. refugees are trapped on the border without basic food and medicine amid operations by the myanmar military. in the mainly buddhist myanmar the rohingya are seen as muslims, but in the mainly muslim bangladesh they're seen as foreigners. let's talk to tun khin from the rohingya muslim ethnic minority. he has family and friends
currently fleeing myanmar. vivian tan is working with the two official refugee centres in cox's bazar in bangladesh with the un refugee agency. mark farmaner has met aung san suu kyi and spoken about the rohingya in his role as the director of the burma campaign uk. welcome all of you. you are from the rohingya. you moved to the uk 15 yea rs rohingya. you moved to the uk 15 years ago. tell us what your family and friends are telling you about what they're experiencing? yes, they're telling me they have seen military slaughtering men, women and children and they have seen many children and they have seen many children being thrown to the fire and also you know many thousands of rohingya have been trapped in the mountain when they're passing through, a big mountain. it took six
or seven days and it is continuously, rohingya there is mass killings going on against rohingya. that's what i've been hearing. according to our information, the humanitarian crisis is growing and 170,000 people become homeless and idps. they are without food, medical, and shelter. that's what the situation much more worse than now. the humanitarian crisis is growing there. it's quite serious concern i would like to say. vivian, you're working with two official refugee centres in bangladesh with the un refugee agency. what have you seen? well, we're working in refugee camps that pre—existed this influx. 0k. these two camps have seen around 30,000 new arrivals in the last 12 days or so. that's a huge influx for
these two camps. the resources are strained yet we are working the government and ngos to accommodate them as best we can to meet their life—saving needs and we are providing temporary shelter and food and medical care for those who need it. but they are in very bad condition as your other guest was saying. they are coming in barefoot. they've walked for days and days. in one case up they've walked for days and days. in one case up to they've walked for days and days. in one case up to seven they've walked for days and days. in one case up to seven days. they report that after fleeing their villages, they have to hide in the jungle or in the mountains because they are afraid of being caught and eventually they reach bangladesh and they were able to seek safety here, but even now, they are scattered. the new arrivals in bangladesh are scattered in different low cautions. they are in some of the refugees camps where we work and they are in local villages and make—shift sites. there is a need to register them and get a sense of how many new arrivals
are where and what their needs are. you met aung san suu kyi. why is she not speaking out against the persecution of the rohingya? it's inexplicable her actions and it has disappointed a lot of people. if there was anyone who could have challenged the prejudice against rohingya muslims in particular, it's her. when you met her, you raised it with her. what was her response? she said she didn't want to speak out because if she did, she might raise tensions. we felt she didn't really understand the situation of the rohingya. we encouraged her to go to see for herself, but she refused to do that. is it to do with the strength of the military? well, there is a theory... she doesn't wa nt to there is a theory... she doesn't want to instruct them to stop? the situation in burma is strange. there is almost two governments. it was ten years ago, exactly ten years ago
when the monks were marching in the streets and in response the military had to reform, but they kind of pulled a fast one, they created a new constitution. there is a democratic government led by aung san suu kyi, but she only controls things the military don't care b health, education, agriculture. the military are independent and they control the police and security services and they are the ones that are carrying out. she couldn't stop these attacks even if she wanted to do, even if she told the military to stop. but she hasn't. she has been acting as a propaganda arm for the military denying abuses are taking place and increasing tensions and fears of muslims in the country. she gave an interzu in april to the bbc. she said there was not genocide going on, ethnic cleansing was too strong a term to use and she said
that the country would welcome any returning rohingya with open arms. it's simply not true. we have the united nations has launched an investigation to assess what is going on with the rohingya and what the military are doing to other ethnic groups in the country, but the un said it is likely that what is taking place in burma against the rohingya and other ethnic groups is crimes against humanity and other war crimes. what will stop the violence against your people? the thing is military operation is not a solution. the solution is the rohingya about been facing decades of persecution. so the thing is they must restore the rights, restore citizenship rights, the rohingya have been facing many years. it is very important point and currently
what i want to highlight here is, the international community collective action is needed to save the lives of rohingya where day by day the death toll is increasingment according to our information we received at least 2,000 rohingya confirmed killed. some sources are saying more than 5,000. so, currently this is priority and also second priority is humanitarian aid must be allowed. so the international community world leaders, they can't be silent. they must speak. they must directly call the commander—in—chief who is the main person. so the international community, the world leaders, must call him and aung san suu kyi to allow humanitarian aid access and to stop this immediately. that's the solution for now, thank you. thank you very much for coming on our programme. our guest has family and
friends currently fleeing, myanmar. ina friends currently fleeing, myanmar. in a moment we will bring you the news and sport. now the weather. here is sarah keith—lucas. our reporter ashleyjohn baptiste has been following her story. a damp, murky start for many, but sunshine, too. this is the scene on the shetland isles at the moment, clearer conditions are moving in. across northern and north—western parts, starting to brighten up. towards england and wales, lots of cloud and outbreaks of rain will last through the day. the rain will ease away towards the east. where we see greater intervals toward southern england we could see 21 or 22 degrees. into this evening, we will lose the wet weather, and we all in the clearer, fresher conditions to start tomorrow. double figures in towns and cities but a bit cooler in the countryside. a much fresher day on wednesday with a
fuse scattered showers and north—western scotland, a view from north—western scotland, a view from north—west england. elsewhere, a rather dry, bright and breezy day. temperatures tomorrow cooler, between 16 and 20 degrees. hello, it's tuesday, it's ten o'clock, i'm victoria derbyshire. our top story... russian president vladimir putin has warned of a global catastrophe if military tensions with north korea continued to increase. the united states has warned the un security council that kim jong—un is begging for war. he has described the prospect of a global catastrophe if the continued military ramping up continues at this pace. is some form of military intervention now inevitable? we will discuss. also sex workers tell us about the violence they have been subjected to
from clients. campaigners are stepping up their efforts calling for the decriminalisation of the industry. the person just put his hands around my neck and then he keep on pressing with one hand on my throat. and keep unflinchingly to the face until i passed out. more on that in the next half—hour. and we will pay tribute to 21—year—old dean eastmond, who died of cancer at the weekend. we will speak to his boyfriend, his brother and his best friend. here'sjoanna in the bbc newsroom with a summary of today's news. south korea's navy has staged a major exercise of the country's east coast is a show of strength to north korea following its latest nuclear test. it said pyongyang's forces would be buried at sea in the event of further provocation. the united states has warned the un security council that kimjong un is begging for war. this programme has been told that at least 20 survivors and witnesses of the grenfell tower fire
have attempted suicide. charities silence of suicide and justice4grenfell say they base the claim on conversations with those supporting residents, though the bbc has been unable to independently verify the figure. they are calling for better long—term mental health provision for those affected. yvette greenway yvette g reenway has yvette greenway has been supporting survivors, she has called for this. psychological impact, the grieving, the trauma, ptsd, anxiety, depression, self harm and, sadly, suicide. one of britain's most senior counter—terrorism officers has warned that the terror threat level will remain at severe for at least the next five years. neil basu, the national co—ordinator for counter—terrorism policing, described the risk to the uk as an unknown threat in our midst. he warned isolated communities and unregulated schooling in the uk were a breeding ground for extremism. there are currently about 600 active counter—terrorism investigations. a report into whether social
services failed a young girl who was murdered by her mother will be published today. ayeeshia jane smith died in 2014 aged 21 months. she had been left in the care of her mother, kathryn smith, despite concerns raised by other relatives. the findings of a serious case review will be published at midday. that's a summary of the latest bbc news — more at 10:30. here's some sport now with olly. england came from behind at wembley to beat slovakia and stay top of their world cup qualifying gorup. marcus rashford gave away possesion and the visistors took their chance