Skip to main content

tv   BBC News at Five  BBC News  September 13, 2017 5:00pm-6:00pm BST

5:00 pm
today at 5: hundreds of private patients of the breast surgeon ian paterson will share £37 million in compensation. more than 700 women are affected — many of whom were subjected to unnecessary surgery — hundreds of nhs patients have already received damages. paterson is now serving a 20—year sentence. the private healthcare company spire is contributing £27 million to the fund. we'll be talking to one of the lawyers who's taken a leading part in representing the victims. the other main stories on bbc news at 5: at westminster, the prime minister calls for greater flexibility on public sector pay, but labour says all public workers deserve a pay rise. in the caribbean, foreign secretary, borisjohnson, visits the british territories hit by hurricane irma — as the government pledges more money for the rescue work. we're putting another £25 million into the immediate effort.
5:01 pm
of course it needs it massively. you can't but be affected by the scale of devastation that the people of anguilla have endured. on the eve of the grenfell tower inquiry, a bbc survey of half the uk's tower blocks finds virtually none of them has a sprinkler system. and meet the italian robot making its debut as an orchestral conductor. it's 5 o'clock. some breaking new, scotland yard is to review the security at the school in london attended by prince george after a ao—year—old woman was
5:02 pm
arrested on suspicion of attempted burglary. what we can say today is a ao—year—old woman has been arrested on suspicion of attempted burglary at the school in south london. the arrest at quarter past 2 today relates to that incident at thomas's battersea school. that is yesterday when an individual gained access to the premises. the arrested woman was taken to a south london police station where, she remains in custody and they say they are working with the school which is attended by prince george to review the security arrangements. police we re the security arrangements. police were alerted, officers attended immediately after the issue came to light. and as we know, police are pa rt light. and as we know, police are part of the protective security arrangements for the prince. we will
5:03 pm
continue to work says the statement w continue to work says the statement w the school, which is responsible for security on the site. that is all i have at the moment. that a ao—year—old woman arrested on suspicion of attempted burglary at the school attended by prince george in battersea in south london. the arrested woman is still in custody. the incident was yesterday, the arrest took place today and of course as soon as i arrest took place today and of course as soon as i get more details for you, and course as soon as i get more details foryou, and our course as soon as i get more details for you, and our correspondent is... looking at this story in just a few minutes time. in the moment we will ta ke minutes time. in the moment we will take the rest of the day's news at 3 minutes past five. our main story is that around 750 private patients treated by the breast surgeon ian paterson will receive compensation from a new £37 million fund. spire healthcare — which runs private hospitals in the west midlands where paterson worked — will contribute more than £27 million to the fund. a further £10 million will be provided by paterson's insurers and the heart of england nhs foundation trust. more than 500 of paterson's
5:04 pm
private patients had been due to take their case to the high court next month. 0ur correspondent phil mackie has the latest. these are just some of the hundreds of patients who were either operated on unnecessarily, or who underwent u ntested on unnecessarily, or who underwent untested surgery in which potentially cancerous cells were left behind. ian paterson is serving 20 years of being convicted of wounded with intent and unlawful wounding. 0ne wounded with intent and unlawful wounding. one of the country's leading breast surgeons was asked to review more than 150 cases. you
5:05 pm
realised that patients were being misled about their radiology reports, about the pathology results and he must have thought that nobody would ever read his notes. i think he could very well be called a rogue oi’ he could very well be called a rogue ora he could very well be called a rogue or a medical con man. it raises many questions. the disgraced surgeon was allowed to continue to practice, despite concerns from colleagues. we have obtained the cvs that paterson used to get posts. in one there is only two passing references to breast surgery. the settlement involves hundreds of cases that were due to be dealt with in a high court action. in a statement, spire health
5:06 pm
ca re action. in a statement, spire health care said what paterson did was unprecedented. it won't be the final figure for compensation, his nhs patients are expected to be paid millions more. joining me now is emma doughty, a lawyer who represents dozens of ian paterson's victims, she's from the firm slater and gordon. it has been a long and for your clients a very traumaticjourney? yes, they have been waiting for a very long time. five or so years. and they have been very patient. what has been the principal cause of any delay? i think because it is unprecedented and it's been very
5:07 pm
difficult to get to the position that we are in now for many reasons, legal and technical reasons. all of oui’ legal and technical reasons. all of our clients arejust legal and technical reasons. all of our clients are just grateful that we have reached a position of an agreement. because to state the obvious when people have been through something like this, yes, the money may help, but it is not about the financial settlement is it? no, i would about the financial settlement is it? no, iwould say about the financial settlement is it? no, i would say for most people i have spoken to, nothing will change what's happened to them and the upset and the physical damage they have been through. but it does go some way to acknowledging that what they have been saying for many yea rs what they have been saying for many years is right and justified and so i hope that they feel that you know that the agreement we have reached reflects that. what are your thoughts, we mentioned spire health ca re thoughts, we mentioned spire health care and they're putting £20 million into the fund. what are your
5:08 pm
thoughts about the way they have approached this and how difficult was it to get to this point? it has been hard work. it really has. i think the last sort of few years have been very difficult. but you know, they have worked hard over the last few months to reach this point andi last few months to reach this point and i think they have finally done the right thing and you know on behalf of my clients, we are very grateful. questions about identifying surgeons, people in positions of authority, people who command a lot of authority and within organisations, in this case the health service, how confident can people be and notjust the health service, but private health care, how confident can people be that the system is in a better position to not just that the system is in a better position to notjust identify where things are going badly wrong and where individuals have a lot of
5:09 pm
control, but that things can be prevented in the future? have things changed? i couldn't comment on whether things have changed, but something on this scale has raised a huge amount of awareness throughout the public and health care and even medical practitioners. everyone is aware this kind of thing can happen. and the way it's come out in the media is fantastic. because it means that people are really thinking about how they can tighten up procedures and dig out these rogue surgeons. because the majority of people in the nhs care about their patients. there must be ways of weeding out these people. tell tell us weeding out these people. tell tell usa weeding out these people. tell tell us a bit about what your clients
5:10 pm
have been through and can they put this behind them snrchlt i. have been through and can they put this behind them snrchlt ii have been through and can they put this behind them snrchlt i. i think so andi this behind them snrchlt i. i think so and i hope so. many are, have been sort of frightened of speaking out and still are. they feel embarrassed and you know they can't quite believe that they have fallen for this. but i really hope that this will help to give them closure. thank you for coming in and for talking about it. the prime minister says there needs to be greater flexibility on public sector pay and ministers will look at the issue before the budget in november. but the labour leader, jeremy corbyn, criticised the government for not going far enough in lifting the !% cap on pay rises. the only groups to benefit at this stage are police and prison officers in england and wales. speaking at prime minster‘s questions, mr corbyn said the pay awards announced yesterday would leave dedicated public servants ‘worse off again'
5:11 pm
because they were below the rate of inflation. mps have backed a non—binding motion calling for an end to the pay cap in the nhs. 0ur political correspondent leila nathoo reports. under pressure to offer something to voters who denied her a majority government, she's decided the cap on public sector pay rises must go. can the country afford this pay rise? a long—standing and unpopular plank of the conservatives' austerity programme now on the way out. questions to the prime minister. but in the commons today, labour insisting that marginal increases for police and prison officers are simply not enough. does the prime minister understand that inflation is now 2.9%, anything less means that dedicated public servants are worse off again and they have been worse off every year for the past seven years. theresa may said she had acted on expert advice. these pay review bodies, who have reported and recommended these sums
5:12 pm
of pay, are independent bodies. they make a recommendation to the government and the government has taken those recommendations. but he's also failed to mention one or two other things. he's failed to mention the automatic pay increases over and above the 1% that many public sector workers get. this year, prison officers will get a i.7% pay rise. while there is a i% increase plus matching bonus for police. next year, ministers say there will be flexibility to consider raising salaries across the public sector. but unions are unimpressed and still threatening strikes. we should have a 5% rise to make up for all the years that they have had their pay cut in real terms. 2.9%, the current rate of inflation, will just about mean they're treading water. that won't cut it. that's not enough. that's not fair and that's not reasonable. the government says public sector salaries have to be affordable for taxpayers and there is no extra funding from here for this year's increases. ministers are warning that pay
5:13 pm
discipline will still have to continue. the cap on pay rises is gone, but the argument over fair rewards for public servants carries on. ina in a moment we will talk to sir 0liver letwin. we are with you in a moment. 0ur political correspondent alex forsyth is at westminster. what is your take on the exchanges on public sector pay and the pressure the government's under with the cap? it is such a huge issue, because it affects so many people. jeremy corbyn senses that the momentum is with his anti—austerity argument, particularly with the announcement the cap would be
5:14 pm
lifted. the criticism from jeremy corbyn and the unions is that doesn't go far enough. the problem for the government is how they afford to lift the cap. the money nor the police and prison officers must come from existing budgets and we are hearing from some police and crime commissioners that could affect choices they make about other spending, whether that might be a reduction in police officers and if it is extended to nurses and teachers, that would be costly and some don't think that is the best idea. but labour and the unions will keep pushing on this, because they sense that is where the public mood is at. with that i will talk to sir 0liver in the houses of parliament. your take on where this public sector debate is now heading? well, i think that there are two different
5:15 pm
issues. one is the question of pay. and the other is the question of funding of the public services. so far as the pay is concerned, i think it is clear that whereas after the 2008 crash for a long time it was the private sector workers who had the private sector workers who had the worst of the deal and public sector workers were relatively better now. now it is clear that gap has all but disappeared and we have to be more flexible. what the prime minister was saying is true, that for many public sector workers they're getting pay increases each year, but some are not. and if we don't attend to this, we could get to the point where it becomes impossible to hire the people we need, with the skills need and then you have to be more flexible about the pay. i'm actually more concerned
5:16 pm
about making sure that the whole nation gets from our social care system and the nature —— nhs are expanded to meet the needs of an ageing population and paying the people who provide the service isn't enough to deal with that problem. we are going to have to put more money into those services to increase the amount of care that they can provide. and that i think is going to involve being willing to raise some taxes to create extra funds, in order to keep the deficit coming down and increase the amount of service we get from the nhs and social care. when it comes to taxes, ideally for you, what would be most politically practical in that sense? well, i don't think that there is an easy way of raising taxes. if there
5:17 pm
were, chancellors would do it every day of the week. luckily i'm not the chancellor and philip hammond has that question to take. he may be able to make some savings in other areas, but i think he will have to make some difficult choices and raise some taxes and that will cause some political pain. but you're in government not to make yourself popular, but to do the right thing. we need to keep reducing the deficit, but have public services that work and i think we have already made good some changes to schools expenditure and schools are now ina schools expenditure and schools are now in a reasonable shape. but for social care in particular and that has huge effects on the nhs we going to have see extra tax and spending. people will be intrigued to the reference to savings, it is
5:18 pm
difficult to know where they would come up with savings. where would you suggest? when i was minister, i was very often struck by the fact that in some parts of public administration there were real strains and in others you couldn't imagine why they were still spending money. finding those pockets and getting the money redistributed to where it is needed is a difficult thing. but the fact is as a nation we are spending between 7 hundred and 800 billion a year each year and the truth is not all of it even now is well spend and so there is some scope for saving. i don't think we should delude ourselves that we will be able to make good the demographic pressure the pressure of the ageing population so far as social care and the nhs is concerned just by finding savings elsewhere. we will have to some tax rises. that is the idea that i'm just wondering how could
5:19 pm
the chancellor sell that idea to some of your colleagues and backbench conservatives who might well say look, with the kind of you know position in the house of commons that we have, this is simply not something that we are prepared to put our names to? well, that is a connumdrum, i agree, to put our names to? well, that is a connumdrum, iagree, it to put our names to? well, that is a connumdrum, i agree, it depends on what you think the opposition would think about these things. if the labour party instead of playing politics is seriously about making sure that the public services are in good shape then labour ought to back some degree of tax—raising if it is devoted those purposes. it may not be difficult in parliamentary terms, but politically it is difficult. many ha rd—working people but politically it is difficult. many hard—working people don't like having the money that they have ca rfully and many having the money that they have carfully and many cases with great effort earned, many on tight budgets, being taken by the
5:20 pm
chancellor in tax. tax is unpopular. there are difficulties ahead and that would be faced by any government faced with a nation getting older and needs increasing amounts of care. thank you very much. sir 0liver letwin there. amounts of care. thank you very much. sir to ver letwin there. amounts of care. thank you very much. sir to pick etwin there. amounts of care. thank you very much. sir to pick up iin there. amounts of care. thank you very much. sir to pick up on there. amounts of care. thank you very much. sir to pick up on the e. amounts of care. thank you very much. sir to pick up on the pay 25 past 5. to pick up on the pay question. the unemployment rate is at its lowest level since 1975. it's at 4.3% — down from 4.9% a year ago. but separate figures from office for national statistics shows inflation has continued to outstrip wages — meaning workers are worse off than last year, with wages falling by 0.4% over the past year. i'm going to return to the story, the breaking news, that scotland
5:21 pm
ya rd the breaking news, that scotland yard will review security at the school attended by prince george in london after a ao—year—old woman was arrested on suspicion of attempting burglary. my colleague danjohnson has been looking at the reports what. s. has been looking at the reports what. 5. this arrest they made this afternoon relates to an incident yesterday when they say an individual gained access to the school. they made this arrest today, but it relates to something that happened yesterday. we understand the woman was challenged at the premises. but it sames she was not arrested until today in the vicinity of the school. prince george and his class mates are only doing half days at the moment. we understand he and his class mates were not actually at the school at the time. it is a potential embarrassment so early into the new term, there was
5:22 pm
security in place at the school, involving the police, that is now being to be reviewed with the school and the palace to work out if they need to change the arrangements to make sure he is safe. this ao—year—old woman being questioned by police now in london. thank you. the prime minister has announced an extra £25 million in aid for british caribbean territories which have been devastated by hurricane irma. the foreign secretary borisjohnson is in the british virgin islands to see for himself the full extent of the damage. there'd been criticism that the uk's response to the disaster had been too slow, but mrjohnson insisted the british response had been ‘extremely fast‘. a thousand troops have now been deployed to help with the recovery operation, as our correspondent sarah campbell reports. before the hurricane, this was paradise. now, the majority of the homes and businesses on the british virgin islands and across much of the caribbean lie in ruins. the priority is
5:23 pm
providing food, water and shelter to those desperately in need. it‘s a huge task. i have been around now to the british virgin islands and i have been here on anguilla and certainly the scale of destruction on the british virign islands is absolutely staggering. i mean when you‘re walking around and seeing the bark‘s been stripped off trees, it is quite extraordinary and i think the resilience of the people is incredible, the fact that they‘re able, they‘re getting on with it, they‘re trying to tidy up and trying to get themselves back on their feet. one thousand british troops are now on the ground, with more on the way. royal marines have been rebuilding infrastructure and supplies are en route. they will arrive in the coming days. earlier the government announced more money to help the relief effort. you can't help but be
5:24 pm
affected by the scale of devastation. going around the hospital, 60% of it damaged. on the hospital, 6096 of it damaged. on the ground there remains a sense among some locals that the relief operation has not been as effective as it should have been. operation has not been as effective as it should have beenlj operation has not been as effective as it should have been. i think they have tried. but they're clueless as to the difficulty of logistics to get things to the bvi. before the hurricane it is almost four days from miami for supplies and the port is full of damaged boats, sunk boats, debris. in cuba the clean up continues. residents must now continue the cost. tourists stranded there for days have finally arrived back in britain. it was horrific. we had our window come through. we was flooded in. we was locked up for 2h
5:25 pm
window come through. we was flooded in. we was locked up for 26 hours. we was given rice, but i have got to admit the cuban people was fantastic. terrifying. absolutely terrifying. i have got pictures of marine life that didn't survive. turtles, fish. it is unbelievable. we were left out there, it has been... the place hasjust been devastated. relief for those who be have left, but not for the many thousands for whom this region is home. a police officer is being investigated for gross misconduct — in connection with the death of a twenty year—old man who was pursued by officers in east london. rashan charles became unwell after putting an object in his mouth while he was being restrained by police in a shop in dalston injuly. he was pronounced dead in hospital. a package containing "a mixture of paracetamol and caffeine" was later discovered in his throat. the bbc has seen documents which suggest the security firm gas
5:26 pm
has been making substantial profits at its immigration detention centre near gatwick airport. the centre, brook house, has been facing allegations of bullying, widespread drug abuse and mistreatment of detainees. gas says the profit figures are overstated and based on incomplete information, as our social affairs correspondent alison holt reports. this brook house immigration removal centre near gatwick airport. an undercover programme showed drugs and self—harm as commonplace. with officers struggling under huge pressure, many doing their best, but some were seen bullying, abusing, even allegedly assaulting detainees. the home office pays the security
5:27 pm
firm gas to provide this. the bbc has seen financial don‘tings ial documents for a number of years which suggest the company has been making significant profits on the the running of the centre. working out how much is not straight forward. but slides from an internal presentation suggest a profit of just under 20%. that is more than £2.a million. we are told a substantially higher profit than was envisaged by the original home 0ffice agreement. nathan wood is a priest who until three years ago was a senior gas management. he said he sat in high level meetings where that was discussed. profits were
5:28 pm
declared at around 20% for the brook house contract. that was far in excess of what was meant to be made in the contract. 645 disputes the figures. a government spokesperson said we don‘t recognise the profit margins quoted. tomorrow, gas bosses will appear before mps to answer questions about the chaos seen in the panorama programme and the finances. the chaos seen in the panorama programme and the financesm the chaos seen in the panorama programme and the finances. it would be unacceptable for a private company to be making excessive profits out of a contract where there appears to be abuse taking place. so there are questions to a nswer place. so there are questions to answer about what has been happening. in the meantime, ten
5:29 pm
staff and former staff remain suspended while allegations made against them are investigated. ina in a moment the headlines and the sport, we will talk about brexit and the other debates about public sector pay. now the weather. storm aileen has cleared and we have been left with some gusty winds and they have been pushing showers from west to east. some heavy showers, some hailand to east. some heavy showers, some hail and thunder as well. they will continue to push eastwards. but they will become more confined to south—west england, wales and north—west scotland. but this feature intensifying the rain in northern and eastern england. but some drier spots. in some rural
5:30 pm
spots temperatures down to four or five tonight. some rain in eastern england that will ease away and then a mixture of sunshine and showers. more persistent rain coming into north—west scotland later in the afternoon. a cool day here at 13 celsius. not much higher elsewhere. for the weekend and friday and the weekend still the cool feel, but the winds will ease down. some sunshine, but also showers, specially on saturday. the time is 5:30pm and i will bring you up—to—date with the headlines this evening. security arrangements at the school attended by prince george are under review, following an attempted break in. a a0—year—old woman has been arrested on suspicion of burglary. hundreds of private patients of the breast surgeon ian paterson, many of whom were subjected to unnecessary surgery, £37 million in compensation.
5:31 pm
will share £37 million in compensation. the prime minister has called for greater flexibility on public sector pay, but labour says all public workers deserve a pay rise. the foreign secretary borisjohnson visits the british territories hit by hurricane irma, as the government pledges an extra £25 million for the rescue work. 0n the eve of the grenfell tower inquiry, a bbc survey of half the uk‘s tower blocks, finds virtually none of them has a sprinkler system. it is 5:31pm and we can catch up with the sports news now. liverpool face sevilla in their opening match of the champions league group stage tonight with the brazilian forward phillipe coutinho expected to make his first appearance for the club side this season. the forward handed in a transfer request over the summer in a bid to push through a move to barcelona, but has been picked
5:32 pm
in their squad tonight. the manager says he‘s ‘fit and healthy‘, having missed the start of the season with a back problem, as he prepares for a repeat of the 2016 europa league final. they had a good start of the season, they changed the manager for again a really good one. 0utstanding job from sevilla again in the last few yea rs, lost from sevilla again in the last few years, lost the sports director and manager and they are still there at the top of the league. so, really strong side, it is real champions league and we know who we will face. at wembley, tottenham take on borussia dortmund desperate to make the place feel a little more like home, winning only once there in the group phase last season, as they dropped into the europea league. they are without dele alli who is suspended for three matches. not that harry kane wants him to change his approach
5:33 pm
dele alli will play how he plays, he‘s that sort of player. he was disappointed to be sent off in the europa league last year but he can only learn from it, that is football. sometimes you make m ista kes football. sometimes you make mistakes and sometimes you have to learn from it and i‘m sure he will do. he is gutted to be missing these games as anyone would but he is determined to make sure he is ready for the last three games of the campaign. pep guardiola's manchester city begin their campaign in the netherlands tonight against dutch champions feyenoord. alongside satire at the net and napoli they should feel confident of making it out of the group. last season it was difficult to win away and i know from experience from barcelona and bayern munich how difficult it is to qualify for the next steps, it was a lwa ys qualify for the next steps, it was always so tough away, it doesn‘t matter where you play, whether it‘s the famous teams or the lower teams and we will see. valtteri bottas has extended his stay with mercedes for another year,
5:34 pm
and will race for the world champions in 2018. after impressing at williams, hejoined on a one—year deal injanuary, replacing world champion nico rosberg who retired. team boss toto wolf praised the chemistry between him and team mate leiws hamilton. the international olympic committee has been criticised by member dick pound for doing nothing to tackle the corruption crisis gripping the organisation. last week, police raided the home of carlos nuzman, the head of the brazilian olympic committee — as they investigate "strong evidence" of vote—buying to secure rio‘s 2016 bid. we have taken a severe hit in terms of credibility and that hasn‘t got any better. every time another ioc is implicated in something potentially nefarious we lose more credibility. that is concerning to me andi credibility. that is concerning to me and i think a lot of my colleagues. what are we doing? just sitting there taking all these hits
5:35 pm
and doing nothing about it. and england have missed out on a first series win against new zealand, after a 62—55 defeat in the third and final test in hamilton this morning. tracey neville‘s side led 30—26 at half time, but the silver ferns took control of the game in the third quarter and moved clear in the late stages to secure a 2—1 series win. that‘s all sport for now. you can keep up to date with all those stories on the bbc sport website. i will be back with sportsday at 6:30pm. thank you very much. the european union has recovered from the shock of the brexit referendum, and the uk will soon regret its decision to leave, that‘s was the message of the president of the european commission, jean—claude juncker, at the european parliament today. in his annual state of the european union address, he said the eu would continue to make progress, beginning with trade negotiations with australia and new zealand. 0ur europe correspondent damian grammaticus reports. applause
5:36 pm
this is a rare moment, the eu and its leaders seemingly confident, optimistic. because they believe that the worst crises of recent years are behind them, the migrants surge, rising populism, the chance that brexit could trigger a break—up of the eu, all receding. translation: on the 29th of march, 2019, the united kingdom will leave the european union. it will be a sad and tragic moment. we will always regret it. and you will come to regret it soon. what is striking, listening to the whole speech, is that that is the only reference mrjuncker made to brexit in an hour of talking. the rest of it has all been about the eu without the uk, setting out his vision for the future and he wants quite far—reaching change, an eu that grows bigger
5:37 pm
and integrates even more in many ways. his plan includes creating a single eu president to head the institutions, and an eu finance minister to promote economic reforms. he wants more countries to join the eu, particularly balkan states, more to join the borderless schengen area and more tojoin the single currency as well. we have now a window of opportunity but it will not stay open forever. let us make the most of the momentum, catch the wind in our sails. mrjuncker wants new free trade deals done with mexico, south american states, australia and new zealand. some listening called for even more eu integration, but not those who backed brexit. all i can say is thank god we're leaving. if you'd given cameron concessions, particularly on immigration, the brexit vote, i have to admit, would never, ever have happened and yet the lesson you take is you are going to centralise,
5:38 pm
you're going to move on to this new, i think very worrying, undemocratic union. but mrjuncker believes his plan is the answer to secure the eu‘s future well beyond brexit. if it ever happens, though, will depend on whether the eu‘s 27 other member states agree with him. let‘s talk a little more. 0liver norgrove the commentator and blogger is with me — he worked for the vote leave campaign. good to have you with us. good evening. where are you in terms of your perspective? you support brexit still? i used to support hard brexit and now i base my views around coad and now i base my views around coad and the norway option. translate that? we stay in the single market, have the best trading terms, escape ever closer union and have an
5:39 pm
independent and flexible role on the international stage. as you read the political landscape now, how realistic is that? not particularly realistic. it is my understanding that theresa may‘s speech at the end of this month might rule out remaining in the single market and eea and i‘m scared and worried about that. white? the supermarket is a regulatory union and we benefit from it. adding that the constitution of the single market loss of the demands that re—leavers had during the referendum can be substantiated and met by the provisions of that agreement so we have article 112 we can invoke unilaterally to suspend any of the four freedoms, including immigration, we can escape the eu‘s policy which is functioning with the european union silicon have our right of initiative with a global trade bodies to have independence as far as trade policy goes and we can
5:40 pm
negotiate our own deals. so there is a lot to it. if it's that clear cut and as reasonable as you are making out, what is the issue within parts of government that restricts or refute that? i think there is a vacuousness and arrogance going on. we are still haggling over issues which should have been ironed out months ago, things like citizens‘ rights and financial settlement. we should just take and believe as we are. there is also an arrogance in that there seems to be a misunderstanding in terms of the legal mechanisms involved in leaving the eu. 0n brexit day we become what is called a third country, which means the reimposition of customs checks and customs cooperation is, and this is particularly the area, this nontariff barrier area around trade that i‘m concerned about a no deal brexit. if there are remy supporters, former remain supporters from the referendum, who say hang on a second, this is what we warned people about and it was your campaign which misled people, what
5:41 pm
would you say? vote leave didn't advocate a specific kind of brexit, especially not the wto option, which was roundly described as the worst case scenario, and there are good reasons for that. i didn‘t campaign for brexit on the idea that this would be the way we would go down and frankly i‘m petrified. petrified, because of what? because of the economic impact? yes, tariffs only slightly touches it. a problem becoming a third country to the eu and an ordinary wto member is the eu is legally obliged to impose upon the uk tariff schedules it applies to other countries, which are not prefera ble to other countries, which are not preferable and are inferior. beyond tariffs, we cannot retaliate because the wto has a system called most—favoured—nation, which means that in countries they are obliged to treat each other equally so we cannot retaliate, and if we do we have to apply those same tariffs to every other country and that is not good for prices at home. beyond ta riffs good for prices at home. beyond tariffs we also have the issue of nontariff barriers. there are no uk
5:42 pm
customs corporation agreements anywhere. 0nce customs corporation agreements anywhere. once we leave, actually getting our goods across... a good example would be a consignment of british goods arriving at a dock in new york and the customs officer in new york and the customs officer in new york and the customs officer in new york keys in that these products are from the uk in his device and his device tells him that actually there is no such trading partner as there is no such trading partner as the uk because there are no uk customs corporation agreements because we have been latched to eu agreements, this is the real danger. nontariff barriers, not tariffs, which make the wto option on economic minefield. you have made your point on that. i‘m just thinking, when people talk about no deal being better than a bad deal, people raising this option sometimes even within government, if the consequences are as you set out, the wto option, is itjust a case of ministers flying some kind of kite having no intention of going down that path really at all, or do you
5:43 pm
think it is actually a possible option they are thinking of? my fear is that it is possible. it could also be a strategic thing. it could bea also be a strategic thing. it could be a way of enticing the eu into speeding up negotiations. i‘m hoping thatis speeding up negotiations. i‘m hoping that is the way we go with this. if it is the wto option, and i say this asa it is the wto option, and i say this as a leaver, it is economic suicide and we would be in trouble and we should be concerned. given what we heard today from jean—claude juncker other progress as far as he sees it and the fact he thinks the uk will regret brexit, is that kind of contribution helpful or on helpful at this point? it depends on the final arrangement. his assertion today that we will regret brexit will probably be true if we go down the wto root. if we do, as i think we should do, if we transition and use the eea as a bridge we would have secured trading terms and it is a much more economic revival solution for brexit. it depends on
5:44 pm
the final negotiation. solution for brexit. it depends on the final negotiationlj solution for brexit. it depends on the final negotiation. i mentioned you were working for the leave campaign. the fact you have adjusted your views and your perspective by now, how widely shared is that among those people you are working with? not widely shared at all. we all went our separate ways and have our own opinions and i don‘t want to bring any personal views into it, but for me personally i am in quite a unique and niche category now in that i am a former hard brexiteer who worked for the leave campaign and base my ideas around flexit and advocate in norway option so i‘m in advocate in norway option so i‘m in a unique category of leave voters so i wouldn‘t say my views are common. interesting, i will give you that. 0liver, thank you for talking to us. 0liver, thank you for talking to us. 0liver norgrove with his perspective on the brexit progress as it stands. it is 5:a5pm. fire officers say full sprinkler systems can save lives in high rise buildings, and fitting them should be compulsory. but a bbc investigation has found that only 2% of council—owned high rise blocks in england are fitted with them.
5:45 pm
the public inquiry into the grenfell tower fire in june, which left at least 80 people dead, begins tomorrow. london‘s fire commissioner has said that the grenfell tower fire must be a ‘turning point‘ in fire regulation, and has called for sprinklers to be installed in all high—rise council flats. 0ur correspondent graham satchell has this report. the fire at grenfell tower raised fundamental questions about the maintenance of council run tower blocks and what is needed to make them safe. in a f0| request, we found that only 2% of council owned tower blocks have sprinkler systems fitted. we know they save lives, we know they can save properties and we know they make a real difference, so 2% is a shockingly low number. good morning, everybody... dany cotton led the fire service at grenfell tower. the regulation should be that it‘s mandatory to fit sprinklers in all new builds, especially in places like high—rises and schools. what about retrofitting? i support retrofitting, clearly.
5:46 pm
for me, where you can save one life it‘s worth doing. this can‘t be optional. it cannot be a nice to have. it‘s something that must happen and it must be in place for the future to protect people. recommendations to fit sprinklers have been made before. this is lakanal house in london. six people were killed in a fire here in 2009. the recommendation from the coroner in the lakanal inquest was simply ignored and absolutely nothing happened. it is very clear that we have a system of regulation over the fire safety of tower blocks that is simply systemically not working and the enquiry needs to get to the bottom of why that is and what‘s gone wrong. this is a sprinkler test. it‘s triggered when heat directly underneath reaches a certain temperature. a study by the national fire chiefs council shows where sprinklers are fitted they extinguish or control 99% of fires. so why aren‘t they fitted in more homes?
5:47 pm
the main reason is cost. in croydon, for example, the local authority plans to retrofit 25 tower blocks with london at a cost of £10 million. who pays? croydon wants money from central government and the government says it‘s the responsibility of the council. in wales, the law changed last year. every newly—built or converted house and flat must be fitted with a sprinkler system. wales the first country in the world to make that change. sprinklers have been around since 1886 and the building industry haven‘t used them successfully, so if you‘re not going to use them in goodwill then we‘ll mandate for you to use them to keep people safe. in the streets around grenfell tower, there are still memorials, and survivors like miguel alvez want real justice and change to come from the enquiry. somebody has to pay for what they did to us. myself, i could be in ashes
5:48 pm
inside of the building. my hope is that we see a change in the policies around fire and also the safety of people. the government wants to make sure a fire like at grenfell never happens again. it will consider the findings of the public inquiry. graham satchell, bbc news. joining me now is ronnie king, former chief fire officer for mid and west midlands fire and rescue service, and honorary secretary of the all—party parliamentary group on fire safety and rescue. thank you forjoining us. your thoughts on what has been declared and announced today.” thoughts on what has been declared and announced today. i fully endorse what the commissioner for london fire has said, that retrofitting sprinklers in tower blocks is a must. people don‘t die in spring colour buildings and the all—party group will be seeking for that
5:49 pm
change to take place for the last four years, and particularly following the la ka nal four years, and particularly following the lakanal house fire where six people died that needn‘t have died had the building had sprinklers. the coroner there and the same in southampton both said that automatic fire sprinkler protection in social housing should be encouraged by the secretary of state. u nfortu nately, be encouraged by the secretary of state. unfortunately, the secretary of state said he didn‘t have any focus on local matters and it would bea focus on local matters and it would be a matter for the local housing group to determine the affordability and suitability of sprinklers. there isa and suitability of sprinklers. there is a strong recommendation that they retro frit de mcfit sprinklers. is a strong recommendation that they retro frit de mcfit sprinklersm isa retro frit de mcfit sprinklersm is a contrast, you are talking to us from carmarthen, the situation in wales changed in 2013. it did. 2016 was the intimidation in all domestic
5:50 pm
dwellings. in january 2016. was the intimidation in all domestic dwellings. injanuary 2016. and of course, wales is the first country to legislate for sprinkler protection. the only thing about this is it is in new buildings, and new buildings sprinklers will be in all flats, no matter what size nor what height. it is particularly the risk. people die, 10% of england live in high—rise flats and yet they have 25% of the fires, 23% of the deaths and injuries. so high—rise flats are disproportionately less safe in that respect than domestic dwellings. what is your sense of the kind of dynamic behind this campaign, given the dreadful events we have been reporting? you mentioned several incidents but g re nfell tower, mentioned several incidents but grenfell tower, especially given the
5:51 pm
numbers involved there. what are we likely to see in the next few years in terms of this policy area?” would like to see, and i think the general public would like to think that when all else fails, and of course we have had sufficient events, that other measures in fire safety in other buildings fail for whatever reason, and this inquiry will finalise that. when all else fails automatic sprinkler protection will pick up that, people don‘t die in those buildings. in australia and in dubai the fire went up the outside of the building in the same way as it did in grenfell. it entered the building. 800 people escaped, nobody died in dubai either ina similar escaped, nobody died in dubai either in a similar situation. so really it‘s a no—brainer, to put spriegel is in high—rise flats. it‘s a no—brainer, to put spriegel is in high-rise flats. ronnie king,
5:52 pm
good to talk to you as ever. —— sprinklers. the funeral of the former archbishop of westminster, cardinal cormac murphy 0‘connor, has been held at westminster cathedral. more than 1000 people, including leading figures from the roman catholic church attended the service. cardinal cormac died two weeks ago at the age of 85, and will be buried in a vault in the heart of the cathedral, in accordance with his wishes. from westminster, our correspondent daniela replh reports. cardinal cormac murphy—0‘connor disliked fuss and formality but his funeral was a gathering of more than 320 priests and deacons, a7 bishops, as well as dignitaries and politicians. he was a man of great devotion and real love for the church. and, therefore, everything he did have that kind of purpose and direction in mind. it kept him going through all sorts of difficult times and it meant that he never lost his joy, he never lost his capacity to laugh
5:53 pm
at himself and to engage people. cardinal cormac had planned his own funeral. in his final days he had personally chosen the hymns and the readings. the cardinal was a senior figure during turbulent times. he faced criticism for his handling of the child abuse scandal within the church, something that wasn‘t ignored today. he acknowledged his mistakes. he made no excuses. he said the most difficult word of all. i‘m sorry. but he will also be remembered for his work on strengthening the relationships between different faiths. here at a catholic requiem mass sat the country‘s most senior anglicans, all of whom counted cardinal cormac as a friend.
5:54 pm
i think there has been a most remarkable trilogy. there has been cardinal heenan, there has been cardinal cormac, and now we have cardinals vincent. and with each of them there has been these very close relationships with the archbishop of canterbury, profound friendships on a personal level, not just an institutional level. as was his final wish cardinal cormac murphy—0‘connor‘s body was committed to a vault in the heart of the cathedral, not in a separate crypt or chapel. he wanted to be laid to crypt or chapel. he wanted to be la id to rest crypt or chapel. he wanted to be laid to rest close to the people we re laid to rest close to the people were they will regularly pass him and pray for him. daniela relph, bbc news, westminster cathedral. there has been a notable debut in the arts world involving a robot. a robot called yumi. last night it conducted an orchestra in the italian city of pisa for the first time, leading the lucca philarmonic accompanied by the italian
5:55 pm
tenor andrea bocelli. even the human conductor was impressed, praising the robot‘s fluidity of movement, and incredible nuance of expression. 0ur arts correspondent david sillito reports. welcome to this evening‘s performance, andrea bocelli, the lucca philharmonic orchestra... and your conductor, yumi. yumi is, as you can see, a robot. and while he needs a bit of manhandling to get to the podium, once he is there, he‘s off! opera music. and it tookjust 17 hours of sometimes very frustrating practice with andrea bocelli and the real conductorfor the robot to copy the movements for this six minute performance. translation: yumi has, because of the great elasticity of his arm,
5:56 pm
the exact same mobility and can do all the movements for the piece. here, for example, puccini... of course, conducting is more than just waving a baton at the right time. it‘s all about expression, interaction with the orchestra and passion, all of which is missing with yumi. but at least he did manage to hold it all together! it's interesting. obviously, the robot is programmed to the needs of these two particular singers who are collaborating with the robot. there's not much room unfortunately for improvisation. so basically you have to go with the robot. i think it is a bit harder for andrea since he's visually impaired, so it's very difficult but it seems to be working! so, probably not the future of live music, but a pretty impressive finale for international
5:57 pm
festival of robotics. the bbc news at six is coming up. i will be back at 10pm. time for a look at the weather. it was the warmest day of the year and the hottest september date in a century, 3a degrees in gravesend. many places struggled to get above 15 or 16 celsius today. we have had frequent and heavy showers pushing from west to east and we will keep some showers going through this evening, eventually becoming confined to south—west england, wales, northern ireland, north—west scotland, this feature in ten to find the rain for a time across northern and eastern england but elsewhere there will be drier spots, temperatures down to eight or nine celsius in town but a few degrees lower in more rural spots. first thing tomorrow, persistent rain across eastern england, that will
5:58 pm
clear and sidibe of sunshine and showers, torrential rain feeding across the brisk north—westerly winds. in the sunshine, highs of 1a-18dc but winds. in the sunshine, highs of 1a—18dc but feeling cool in the breeze and showers. we keep the cool feel through friday and into the weekend but the winds will slowly eased down, there will be some showers around on saturday, sunday will be the better day of the weekend. britain‘s employment rate hits a record high with new worries over stag na nt record high with new worries over stagnant wages. theresa may defends her record. people in work, people taking home a wage, a salary to support their families at record levels. the highest levels since records began. more people in work are in poverty than ever before. more are in insecure work. more relying on tax credits and housing benefit to make ends meet. we‘ll be asking if this increases the pressure to raise public sector wages. also tonight: the plight of the rohingya
5:59 pm
muslims from myanmar — the un secretary general says their situation is "catastrophic". the women duped into having unnecessary breast surgery —
6:00 pm


info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on