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you're watching bbc news. we're live in downing street covering the fallout from last night's dramatic events in parliament. the headlines at 9:00. theresa may gets back to business, heading for talks with eu leaders, after winning a vote of no confidence called by her own mps. we now need to get on with the job of delivering brexit and building a better future for this country. the prime minister is travelling to a summit in brussels where she will seek binding pledges from other european leaders on the irish backstop. i'm annita mcveigh — the other main stories on bbc news at 9:00. french police ask for the public‘s help to find the man suspected of killing two people at a christmas market in strasbourg. at least nine people are killed as a high speed train crashes in turkey's capital ankara. trouble at the queen vic — the bbc is criticised after a project to revamp the eastenders set goes
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£27 million overbudget. good morning from downing street. theresa may remains in post after surviving a bruising vote of no confidence — which saw more than a third of conservative mps vote against her. the prime minister now heads to brussels for a crucial eu summit — where she hopes to win concessions from european leaders, to break the deadlock over the irish backstop. let's take a look at a difficult 2a hours for the prime minister. following a day of turmoil theresa may won a ballot of no confidence in her leadership last night by 200 votes to 117 — which guarantees she remains in charge for another year. outside downing street,
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a jubilant mrs may vowed to deliver the brexit people voted for. the prime minister will later hold crucial talks in brussels with the other 27 european leaders — where she will seek to get greater assurances over her brexit deal. our political correspondent jonathan blake reports. back to number 10 at the end of what theresa may herself described as a long and challenging day, but it was not quite over yet. mps had voted for or against theresa may as conservative leader, and the result, when it came, meant she survived. the result of the ballot held this evening is that the parliamentary party does have confidence... cheering. in the end, 200 mps backed theresa may, and 117 voted against her. the prime minister could not ignore
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the fact that a third of tory mps had voted to remove her as leader, but she said the result would let her get on with the job. we now need to get on with the job of delivering brexit for the british people and building a better future for this country, a brexit that delivers on the vote that people gave, that brings back control of our money, our borders and our laws, that protectsjobs, security and the union, that brings the country back together rather than entrenching division. like the country, the conservative party is divided over brexit. supporters frame the result of the vote as a convincing win for theresa may, her critics claim it was worse than she would have hoped and called on her again to resign. the prime minister must realise that under all constitutional norms, she ought to go and see the queen urgently and resign. the prime minister survives this challenge to her leadership
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but her biggest problems have not gone away — getting changes to the brexit deal from the eu and convincing enough mps to support it. jonathan blake, bbc news, westminster. conservative mp and former attorney general dominic grievejoins me now from westminster good morning. is she stronger or wea ker good morning. is she stronger or weaker this morning? good morning. is she stronger or weaker this morning ?|i good morning. is she stronger or weaker this morning? i don't think it makes much difference. what it has shown its attempts by some of my colleagues, mainly in the erg to get rid of her, are getting nowhere and that was obvious before yesterday. i hoped the message has finally got home to them as a result. i have to accept that the underlying issues are the same. that is that brexit is an operation that carries huge risks for our country and there are deep
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divisions not only within our party but within parliament as to how this should best be carried out. that is the fundamental reason we've got so much instability. another thought on the members of the erg, jacob rees—mogg made clear last night he doesn't accept this. he said she should go and resign. they aren't going quietly, they aren't going to make life easy for the prime minister. i don't expect them to and i'm sure this won't have changed their mind. i don't see any sign of that. they have to do some thinking about what they think is in the national interest, but also what is reasonably achievable. i don't know what attitude they are going to take. i have absolutely no idea but one thing that is quite clear is as things stand at the moment they aren't going to unseat the prime minister within the conservative party. yesterday, philip hammond said it would flush out the extremists. would you describe them as extremists? i don't characterise
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them as extremists. we belong within a conservative family. the difficulty is we have a deep, ideological division, something which on the whole the party has avoided over many generations. this is causing us huge problems and is at risk of tearing us apart. it may be that that is what will happen. but in the meantime, we have to govern. the country expects that of us govern. the country expects that of us and we have to try to find a solution to the brexit problem. the brexit problem, until it is solved, is going to continue to cause chaos. that's the key thing on which we should be focusing, not trying to replace the prime minister. so, a very divided party. as you say, the fundamentals aren't changed, is the only way now to resolve the issue of brexit for the prime minister to reach out to other parties and seek a consensus? i certainly think there's an opportunity for the prime
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minister to do that. my own belief is that if the prime minister were to come forward and say how deal should be put to the public in a referendum with the alternative to remain, ithink referendum with the alternative to remain, i think it would attract quite a lot of support across the house. it might enable her to solve this problem. of course you could argue that's not an ideal solution either, but we've got to try to bring this matter to an end. the reality is my erg colleagues are complaining that brexit she's delivering is not the brexit that they and the people they represent expected. there are others saying it is indeed a bad deal and that it shows very clearly why in fact we are embarked on a dangerous course which is going to do huge damage to oui’ which is going to do huge damage to our country. seeing that we had the referendum in 2016, it seems to me to make sense to go back and ask the public if this is what they want. i don't believe there is another form of brexit readily available and one which parliament can deliver. how
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quickly does the prime minister need to act to stop events being taken out of her hands again, in the likely form next week of a vote of no confidence being called in the entire government? there are some voices within cabinet saying the prime minister needs to put her agreement to the vote next week and for all the different options to be put to a vote so the will of parliament can be ascertained.” certainly can't see why parliament shouldn't be able to conclude its debate next week on the government's deal. obviously, if the prime minister comes back with something over the weekend which is totally different then that might be a different then that might be a different matter. but i very much doubt that's going to happen, and i can't see any advantage in not allowing parliament to express its view on the deal. our eu partners say they aren't going to change the transition agreement at all. if that's the case and they don't, then we ought to be fighting next week on
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this day deal. it's only once we've of the deal that's been negotiated out of the way, i think you're going to start to see ships within parliament towards the proper consideration of alternatives. at the moment the deal is acting as a block on doing that and i think that is what we really need to try to focus on. thank you. our assistant political editor norman smithjoins me now. she's in europe today, what are the chances of her getting anything that could help to break the deadlock? close to zero, today. the eu very slowly. in terms of getting real changes to the withdrawal agreement, all the signs are that is going to bea no all the signs are that is going to be a no too because they made it clear whether it's john be a no too because they made it clear whether it'sjohn claude —— jean—claude juncker, donald tusk, they've all said no. the best mrs
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may can get is some firmer language around the backstop. will that satisfy the 117? absolutely not. which means mrs may is thundering towards a brick wall otherwise known as her brexit deal and the meaningful vote. last night, yes, as her brexit deal and the meaningfulvote. last night, yes, of course they are all going around trumpeting the size of the majority saying it was comfortable and commanding, the political dynamics have changed even though cabinet ministers have been trying to talk up ministers have been trying to talk up the fact that the leadership issueis up the fact that the leadership issue is now resolved and mrs may is ina issue is now resolved and mrs may is in a different place. good morning. candy prime minister secure good morning. candy prime minister secure new assurances good morning. candy prime minister secure new assurances fi'oiti good morning. candy prime minister secure new assurances from brussels today? i hope so. she's got the support of the party behind her and i wish her every success to date for satisfying some of the questions my colleagues have had about the backstop. it puts it behind us now. i hope we can get on with the jobs
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in hand which is delivering on a successful exit from the eu and also making sure we get on with our domestic agenda because that such an important part of my role government. thank you. the cheapest this is now a deeply divided and unhappy party. even dominic grieve conceded the party was in danger of tearing itself apart. there is now notjust an ideological divide but an emotional and psychological divide between the two camps. as you mentioned, we had the chance of yesterday talking about flushing out extremists. iain duncan smith this morning swatting him down telling him to moderate his language. andy brexiteers will keep pushing and are demanding now that on the back of a third of her party fighting against her she should resign anyway. yes, if the result is that she unites the conservative party behind
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a real brexit, that has been a good thing. we won't know untiljanuary whether that's possible but she can at least go to brussels now and say i've got a real problem back in my parliament, you've got to give me some more so parliament, you've got to give me some more so that people can unite and it can go through parliament. there can only be two ways mrs may can get through her deal now. the eu offers up some some concessions. very unlikely. or she's got to look beyond her party. she's not going get it through tory votes. there is a block of more than 117 who will fight against the deal. somehow you have to appeal across the divide. when she came out last night, she talked about politicians of all parties together in the national interest. bringing that about is very, very difficult. she has an advantage, she is insecure for a year. there is nothing her party can
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do for a year. she doesn't have to worry about another general election, she says she's not going to stand. the problem is, will labour show any appetite about beginning to work with her? you have to say, the signs aren't massively encouraging. this is the shadow chancellor. what we are saying is we think we can construct a consensus within parliament around the sort of deal we have put forward. if the prime minister comes onto that agenda there is a prospect we can move forward. if she can't negotiate that type of deal, in our view she should move to one side and let us get on with it or have a general election. so, mrs may survives, yes, she goes to brussels to negotiate, has anything really changed? i'm tempted to say no. she still faces a deeply mutinous party, there is no obvious way of getting her brexit deal through and many are bitterly opposed to each other within the
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conservative party and the rival camps. its really blame it all out how divisive it is. thank you very much. so how is the city reacting as it wakes up to another day of brexit uncertainty? our business correspondent, ben thompson is at leadenhall market in the city of london. give us a flavour of reaction there. thank you. welcome to the heart of the city of london and leadenhall market which has survived world wars, great fires, deep recessions and businesses just get on with things as they always have. for questions about whether we are any further forward today than 2a hours ago. businesses are still waiting to hear what a brexit deal could mean for them. the tory party giving a vote of confidence in theresa may. we'll get business give the prime minister the confidence and faith in herd to deliver a brexit deal that they want? joining the two people to discuss that, even from the food and drink federation and claire from the
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financial times. ian, we drink federation and claire from the financialtimes. ian, we are drink federation and claire from the financial times. ian, we are no further forward and there are still big fear is that there may be shortages of food, keys at the ports, none of this addresses any of that. the concern is we are going to have to go on planning for no deal. it's costly, time—consuming and extremely damaging for business confidence. we cannot do anything else because at this point there is no prospect of the solution. what are your members tell us back to you that they want? it makes very big differences to their planning. they need to think about what they do in the new year. certainty isn't quite in it, i think its predictability. we need to know what we are manufacturing into. what is the economy going to look like? we have no clue. because there are three or four possible solutions on the table or options we could see emerging as the way forward, that makes it extremely difficult to plan. that is
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bad for confidence, it's also extremely costly. it's funny because a lot of people would expect to see a lot of people would expect to see a big reaction on the financial market and see a big movement in the pound. we got none of that yesterday because frankly as far as business is concerned, nothing has changed. the vote of confidence wasn't resounding enough for the pound to rise, it's still 1% down on the week. in respect of what ian was saying about people wanting certainty, people need to make a decision and that applies to people in their personal finances as well as businesses. figures out this morning from the royal institute of chartered surveyors showing property sales are flat—lining. if you don't have to make a decision, why bother making it now? better to make it after the 29th of march. when it comes to what we should be doing with our personal finances, so many questions because businesses are putting off hiring and investment, that really does filter through. putting off hiring and investment, that really does filter throughm does. there is quite dodgy economic
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data earlier in the weeks showing that the growth of the uk economy is grinding toa that the growth of the uk economy is grinding to a halt. where it changes is if consumers stop spending. if we feel we could lose ourjobs in the future, not get as much overtime or have to spend money stockpiling food in the event of a no—deal brexit which i think personally is unlikely, then that's all money that is not flowing into the economy where it should be. thank you. that's a taste of what business is thinking this morning. as we said, in some respects nothing has changed. we are no further forward in the negotiations spanned 2a hours ago. what business wants is some a nswe rs ago. what business wants is some answers but i don't think we'll get any answers but i don't think we'll get a ny a nswe rs answers but i don't think we'll get a ny a nswers to answers but i don't think we'll get any answers to those questions that are outstanding as far as the trade deal is concerned on whether theresa may can get the deal through parliament to deliver business what it wants. let's cross to brussels and my colleague kasia madera — a big day ahead for european
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leaders? what is the sense in terms of what might come out that might be helpful to theresa may? well, we keep hearing about this no renegotiation of the withdrawal agreement. eu leaders do not want that legally binding document. but the mood music is that they want to help theresa may especially given what happened last night. they don't comment on domestic issues. we had wind of a conclusion, a draft council conclusion, a draft council conclusion of what could potentially be the result of the next two days and this eu summit here. a bit of movement not on the withdrawal agreement in any way shape or form but in the sense of the diplomats saying the withdrawal agreement endeavours to reach an agreement during the transition period. what
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they could potentially amend is that they could potentially amend is that they would continue to negotiate evenif they would continue to negotiate even if the backstop came into play. a bit of movement, something that possibly would show politicians back in the uk that they are looking at the backstop as being temporary, something they do not want to get into. let's speak to an mep who is on the brexit steering committee, elmer brok. when it comes to the backstop, what is it that you can offer? you know how contentious it is for politicians in the uk, what can you generally offer to theresa may to make this possible back in the uk? we can make a clear political declaration. the backstop is there in order not to be used because it is an insurance. we have the withdrawal agreement, we do not need the backstop because britain stays in the internal market. then
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we have a far—reaching trade agreement, then we don't need to backstop anymore. the purpose is not to ever use the backstop, so there is no danger of the uk to be stuck for all time in union. but if you're saying you aren't going to use the backstop, if that's your aim, why haveit backstop, if that's your aim, why have it at all? especially given how contentious it is. it's like insurance. you do not take away fire insurance. you do not take away fire insurance if there is no fire. you keep it. therefore, you use that withdrawal agreement... it in the interests of our countries of the european union, especially ireland. it isa european union, especially ireland. it is a fight between people in the
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tory party, it's a fight over whether corbyn can become prime minister. it's an internal party political battle in the uk and we should not be the victim of that. your boss has described what is happening as a catfight within the conservative party. the chair of the brexit steering committee... is it helpful saying things like that given that we've just had a confidence vote, given the tribulations and panes theresa may has been going through? british politicians... what they are saying about us compare to what we have been saying is very mild. if you talk about us in a nasty way... inaudible elmar brok, mep on the
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brexit steering committee, thank you for speaking to us live from strasbourg. it's going to be a busy day for theresa may. she'll be setting out concerns to the rest of the 27 eu leaders. thank you, kasia. lets go further afield and hear some views from around the uk. john maguire is in sunderland gauging reaction. we are right by the side of the river wear. shipyards closed down here almost exactly 30 years ago in december 1988. the port of sunderland are still very busy. since then there has been a lot of work to regenerate the area. part of it is the national glass centre. we will take you inside where they are
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doing glass—blowing demonstrations. these kilns are 1130 degrees. i think they've been making christmas baubles here this morning. if you've ever seen glass being worked on it really is quite mesmerising. twist it round, they call that the gather and it needs a good set of lungs to keep it going. perhaps it's not as hot as it should be but that's a christmas bauble being made. a great tourist attraction for this part of the world. we've also gathered together some students to talk from the university of sunderland. this isa the university of sunderland. this is a part of the uk that voted to leave the eu 61%. it was one of the highest rates of leavers across the uk. this is the place where they return the results of any vote very
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quickly. yes, you have ambitions to bea quickly. yes, you have ambitions to be a barrister. what do you make of the nature of the discourse we been experience in the last couple of weeks, last couple of years? last night especially and the last couple of years, and it's been quite a healthy debate over the last couple of years and it's been nice to see quite a healthy debate in the sense that yes there has been bad discourse and people have had bad arguments and things like that but there has been a healthy debate that helped shape what the country wants. it has changed a lot of peoples opinions. you think opinions have changed? yes, even personally having spoken with... i mean, sunderland voted strongly to leave and i know quite a lot of people who voted leave and now they know what's going on have changed their opinion. you're from northern ireland, the backstop such a key element at the moment. the difference perhaps between getting an agreement and
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not. explain how important it is to use doubly well, the northern irish backstop really, . .. well, the northern irish backstop would be detrimental to northern ireland. we rely so heavily on the freedom of movement between the north and south of ireland. as a country we are very unstable and it's the glue that holds us together. without the free movement between north and south, that means it's in trouble and peace is in trouble. what about the confidence vote last night, do you believe theresa may is in trouble?” think she could have been in trouble la st think she could have been in trouble last night, i think the party and across the board make the right decision to keep her as pm, for her own party to oust her would have been political suicide for the party in itself and would have caused
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major issues. she has been given the worst of this bad deal. she's been left with this mess by a previous administration and has had to pick up, move on and do something with it. thank you. perhaps a bit of clarity from the national glass centre. if that's not too bad a pun! thank you. in political terms it is all very unpredictable still and we've got theresa may in brussels today hoping she can get something that she might be able to bring back to westminster that might break the deadlock. nothing is going to fundamentally change the legal position of the withdrawal agreement. much more reaction coming up p but now i will hand you back to the studio. four people have been killed and another 43 injured following a high speed train crash in turkey.
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the train collided with another locomotive and then crashed into an overpass at a train station in the capital ankara, as the train was setting off on a journey to the central province of konya. it is not clear at what speed the trains were travelling when the crash occurred. earlier we spoke to turkey correspondent seline girit. here's what she had to say. the minister of transport has made a statement in the last few minutes, and the death toll unfortunately has risen to nine now. we're talking about nine people who got killed in this latest train crash, and we're talking about 46 people injured, some of them very seriously. this is not the first train crash that has taken place this year in turkey, unfortunately. earlier injuly, another train had derailed and 2a people were killed in that train crash. and many questions were asked following that train crash, and after this the same questions, similar questions, will be asked as well, like who was responsible, why did this crash take place.
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the minister of transport said that this was an accident, that a collision took place. but especially the relatives of the deceased will be asking to learn more. hundreds of police, soldiers and border agents are involved in the hunt for a gunman, suspected of opening fire near a christmas market in strasbourg. cherif chekatt killed two people and injured 13 more in the attack on tuesday evening. german police have also joined in the search, after suggestions he may have fled across the border. police are now asking for the public‘s help to locate the suspect, who they say was radicalised whilst in prison. the bbc‘s been criticised by the national audit office for over—spending on the redevelopment of the set for eastenders. it's likely to be £27 million over budget and more than two and a half years late. amol rajan reports.
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it's been the scene of dramatic revelations. crime, conspiracy, death, shootings and plenty ofjoy too. but albert square is showing its age. i'm sorry for barging in like this, dot... pauline. but its old reg across the road, he looks a bit dodgy. built in 1984, and originally designed to last forjust two years, the set has been found wanting — unable to film in high definition and prompting concerns around health and safety. now the bbc has been found wanting in its management of the project. the corporation says building on a brownfield site is intrinsically difficult, and points to procurement delays, lengthy contractual negotiations aimed at securing value for money and inflation associated with the construction. yet the national audit office does find reason to criticise decisions and processes undertaken by the bbc. and, action! eastenders is such a vitaljewel in the corporation's crown that securing its long—term future was not something the bbc could compromise on. nevertheless, at a time when parts of the corporation
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are enduring sharp cost—cutting, this overspend is an embarrassment. amol rajan, bbc news. hello. it is thursday, it's 9:30am, i am victoria derbyshire here at westminster with a specially extended programme. it is the morning after the night before. theresa may is heading to brussels to try and win more concessions on that brexit deal after surviving that brexit deal after surviving that vote of no conference by 200 votes to 117. when you have need to get on with building a better


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