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refused to back him. according to the i, borisjohnson's election bid is facing a backlash from his own party, as senior conservative mps fear they will be punished by voters. the prime minister's push for a pre—christmas poll is also on the front page of the guardian. who is taking the bbc to tribunal in an equal pay dispute. (ani)the the paper also carries a picture of presenter samira ahmed, who is taking the bbc to tribunal in an equal pay dispute. the telegraph leads on a report into the grenfell fire disaster, which concludes that fewer people would've died were it not for the failings in the london fire brigade‘s response. so, brexit and talk of an election dominating the front pages — let's see what our reviewers make of it all. let start with the metro. jeremy corbyn. he is in a pretty difficult position. if he doesn't actually
wa nt position. if he doesn't actually wantan position. if he doesn't actually want an election, he may be forced or shamed into saying he will agree to one. because otherwise, you can see the narrative in the campaign. he was too frightened to face an electorate, , he was too frightened to face an electorate,, it would not play well for labour. people will have forgotten that by the time the campaign goes into full swing who was wanting an election and was in? iam not was wanting an election and was in? i am not sure. boris will go in as the strong man. and the more he can paint corbyn asked the weaker party, the worse it would normally be for anybody‘s election prospect. corbyn ended better than expected against theresa may. do you think i was different the last time around? dallas is first showing. nobody knew what corbyn the campaigner would do. it depends. corbyn and his fans are banking on his repeating that performance. he is a great campaigner. to be not a good parliamentary person and outside of
the elections, but he would want to ta ke the elections, but he would want to take the campaign away from brexit onto the health service, and some labour's plans are quite popular. although the tories are trying to neutralise that with the big spending promises and ending austerity. exactly. there is no doubt that boris johnson austerity. exactly. there is no doubt that borisjohnson is a much better campaigner than theresa may. you can't really look to 2017 for that kind of precedent and ijust think that it is so uncertain at the moment, nobody quite knows how stories will develop and what twists and turns we are going to see over the next day or two. but this is all a giant gamble. the prime minister is taking a massive breast care. talk about that any moment. the ft johnson raises stakes. —— a mass of a risk here. do you think that will
do the trick for him? it seems he has done sort of a deed or doing something with the snp in lib dems, who both want an election though they want when in december the 9th. so that the students of universities can have a chance. and they see that asa can have a chance. and they see that as a big plus for the lib dems. it seems they could get a deal in the report says that some labour members have spoken to them and said the labour party will eventually if the lib dems in the snp flight with their plan they would have to eventually agree and not look at one party that doesn't want to want an election. the problem for labour is ita election. the problem for labour is it a split and the question is the leave seats in the north voted heavily, will they when they come to you the elections vote labour again as they often have done or go to the conservative cosmic labour's excuse or reason for not wanting an election can have a or one for quite a long time. let's face it. was that
they wanted to know the off of the table. given that we've had the extension of greed today, and we have now time till the end of january, no deal is off of the table. —— an extension agreed today. for now. labour would effectively be saying we will never have an election. no dealwill not saying we will never have an election. no deal will not be permanently off of the table and any current plan. but if by the end of january we haven't got a deal, we'll have to perhaps go for another extension in the meanwhile, what jeremy corbyn is always said is that of course he wants an election come he wants to do anything to get rid of this awful government as he calls it. as soon as possible. and the only reason he gave us that we need to get to know the off of the table. if he wins an election, he can take no deal off at the table. the excuse are the reason that he had has disappeared, especially if there is
a one line bill which specifies the date, i think there was a lack of trust that if boris said we will have an election on the 12th of december of parliament did vote for it, unless it was fixed a lot, he could then said i have changed my mind andi could then said i have changed my mind and i will make it the 1st of february. with the alternative plan, that the lib dems were trying to push through and they are trying it seems to negotiate tonight, this bill might then say it is a specified date and there's no getting around that. is there a fracturing of that remaining alliance that we have seen in parliament? if the liberal democrats in the snp are prepared to go further for a in the snp are prepared to go furtherfor a capri in the snp are prepared to go further for a capri christmas election labour or not? yes. labour a nyway election labour or not? yes. labour anyway with a remained party andy lee party. that is what this is exposing. both the lib dems at the snp have clearly worked out that they stand a good chance in the elections were as labour i think their strategy seems to be if they
can push the conservatives out of spring, maybe february, march, and the government looks impotent, there may be the people will by then turn to labour or at least labour will be able to neutralise whatever the polls leads are. it is difficult to say. theresa may had a terrific hole lead. but certainly, the romaine, johnson's strategy is to keep the leave campaign alliance going, neutralise nigel farage, but the remainder alliance would be very rickety and it is cracking up. labour isn't really a party every main. that is the thing. the majority of its members are remained. but the leadership, the prime leaders have never really struck me as a being people who want to stay in and indeed my most of his career, jeremy corbyn has been calling to lee. the people around jeremy corbyn. they see the eu...
they see the ague as a capitalist black. —— the eu as a capitalist plot. that is a problem for labour. if the brexit party takes leave the voters or if the tories take leave of voters, and it is not considered a proper remain party, it is possible that they will lose out. and i think that is one of the things that are frightened of. what about the eye, they havejohnson facing a tory backlash over the push foran facing a tory backlash over the push for an election. senior conservative mps fear they will be punished by voters and now, what is your view on that? i think there is a huge risk for any party that? i think there is a huge risk forany party in that? i think there is a huge risk for any party in this election. either of the many parties in the selection. not a huge risk for the smaller parties actually. they could do quite well and we could end up with another hung parliament. from
borisjohnson with another hung parliament. from boris johnson pots with another hung parliament. from borisjohnson pots my point of view, what i think the tories who are very uncertain about the narrative of election they are saying is that he said do ordie, election they are saying is that he said do or die, he said they are the 1st of october, we spent a fortune on preparing for the 31st of 0ctober, both public sector money and of course, private business money. and it is not happening. so if we go that quickly after it has not happened, and we are not waiting until maybe they will draw bill were to perhaps pass through parliament, thenit to perhaps pass through parliament, then it is more difficult for the tories, and an election, which may be based on trust, it may be based on broken promises, we don't quite know where the narrative will be. do you think voters would punish mr johnson for missing that 0ctober you think voters would punish mr johnson for missing that october the sist johnson for missing that october the 31st deadline? it could. but johnson strategy, it seems to be there will bea strategy, it seems to be there will be a people versus parliament. johnson, the greatest establishment man, the greek and roman scholar can
present himself as the antiestablishment figure for the people that maybe it will work. there is a lot of people that are fed up. whether you want to leave over main, they talk about let's get it done with. that may be a backlash and that at the same time, we know from previous elections that people do not like that. it is not the old saying? they don't like christmas elections either. december is an awful time to be trying to pull an election. shopping, getting to town halls for polling stations. it can be quite difficult. practically... not sure who's down there stopping by december the 4th. online may be. the guardian. let's look at that. moving away from the elections. after the us led attack that led to the death of the islamic state leader, the guardian have an
interesting story saying terror fears are heightened and intelligence agencies engaged in heightened monitoring of subjects of interest. fearing revenge attacks. that is inevitable. i'm about 3000 people will be subject to interest. —— they people will be subject to interest. — — they have people will be subject to interest. —— they have about 3000 people. the story is after such a defeat for isis in losing their leader, some of these people might be inclined to stage terrorist attacks. at the moment, we are already under severe and high likely monitoring them and looking at what they are doing and things like that to make sure we don't have a terrorist backlash against that attack. the security forces are against that attack. the security forces a re not against that attack. the security forces are not at the moment recommend increasing the terrorist threat level. so it will stay at severe. what do you think if president trumps a news conference yesterday when he talked about baghdadi dying like a dog? —— president trump's conference was up
the language. i must admit, i was recoiling a little bit at the language. the coarseness of language in public discourse right now is actually quite worrying. clearly, this man was evil. clearly the world isa this man was evil. clearly the world is a better place. if he is no longer able to wield those kind of threats and sell wine, that we want to stoop to the same level and come i think america has done is fantastic. it shows that the power of the american forces, although they were helped by the kurds and local intelligence, but as you said then billy mcmahon, the language that was used, it was like you would see ina that was used, it was like you would see in a movie. —— but as you said, ben. if you remember after 9/11, about the cowboys, going again. that was more acceptable cowboy language.
you would expect that from trump. 0bama also profited electorally from bin laden. we won't do president trump's electoral prospects any harm at all. the telegraph now. interesting front page delete on g re nfell tower. interesting front page delete on grenfell tower. criticising the fire brigade. telus. they have an early site of the report that has been looking into the green grenfell tower fire. and what had us come out with is that the london fire brigade have been castigated, they were the ones who said you must stay put, not leave those flights, and he says that the people and the tower stayed there for two hours and after an hour, they should've been allowed to get out but he made some very strong criticisms of this article of faith of staying put in the flats. that was the policy. and what he feels
was the policy. and what he feels was they should not have done and of course, the evidence given by the commissioner of the london fire brigade has also come into criticism. she said we will not change anything at all. in the report apparently accuses her of remarkable insensitivity for sanctuary done nothing differently. exactly. i remember was that we were there that night when the fire was raging in the blaze was taken over the building. it was so heartbreaking in heart rendering. we we re heartbreaking in heart rendering. we were hearing the stories of the state policy which you understand what the rationale was originally. they had fire doors, it was supposed to be safe in the fire would be contained by the fire brigade. there is only one staircase come if the fire brigade is going out the staircase and you have everybody trying to evacuate down it, they can actually put the blaze out. the criticism of the fire brigade is a surprise. they didn't recognise there was a different situation. fire was coming from outside and can be contained. 1000 page report, we
will be waiting to go through that. less and with a another store in the telegraph. they have the garden of eden, lakeside and botswana. was it? laughter. so they say. they have done the genetic test going back and they found that the original homo sapiens came from this remote region south of the river, used to be a giant late, andi south of the river, used to be a giant late, and i think about 200,000 years ago, and they lived there for a 70,000 years until they disperse because of climate change act the time. was that because adam had the apple? he wasn't supposed to have it. something like that. where is the apple? it is now a salt lake rather than a lake. basically, they have always thought that man evolved in the african region and they have been trying to pinpoint exactly where they think now they have found it. it must've been a very different
kind of climate change that forced them to move. i don't know. if the la ke them to move. i don't know. if the lake dried up, and they had to then move to find places where they had better water, i don't know. they had c02 emissions. purely in those days. always fascinated by the stories about where humankind originated. i think more evidence is coming out that our idea that people came from one region and moved around as many questions. people are saying that even people from australia went to america and things like that and there is so much more to learn if we can. evidence was not recorded and things like that. but... we have improved scientific techniques working all the stuff out. it is fantastic when you think about the evolution of man and also even the evolution of man and also even the evolution that has happened since man when you look at the animal kingdom and the way in which
everybody has adapted. a little bit of context. so much that unites us ina sense. of context. so much that unites us in a sense. rather than divides us. let's stay together. that's what i say. get to see you both. see you later on. that's it for the papers this hour. ros and mihir will be back at 11.30 for another look at the front pages. the headlines are coming up at 11. stay with us for that. hello. was ina was in a glorious day for many of us, a lot of autumn sunshine out there after a pretty cold start and guess what, more at the same to, for tomorrow. so for those of you who haven't already guessed, yes it will be much drier and sunny but colder, frosting is well first thing in the morning, and that is because we still are under this influence of high—pressure, despite it shifting further east and the wind swinging around to more of a northeasterly and at the same time, down at 50
southwest we have a little bit more cloud from this weather front which will bring some salary range. here, temperatures holding up at around seven temperatures holding up at around seven 01’ temperatures holding up at around seven or 8 degrees but elsewhere, we off our tuesday morning with frost around at temperatures dip just below freezing in a few places. chilly start, frosty start but lovely sunshine yet again, they northeasterly breeze might just write in one or two isolated showers along the north sea, maybe one or two in the tens actuary but shall be rain still not out of the question. elsewhere, we keep the sun but it will be chilly, nine to 12 celsius. as we move through tuesday into wednesday, we will start to see a little bit more cloud spilling up into wales, the midlands, and perhaps london area and here, the temperatures will hold up at around seven temperatures will hold up at around seven to 10 degrees. but we still keep the clear skies for the north and south once again, wednesday morning could be another cold one. the high pressure isjust moving off into the near continent, and allowing these weather fronts to
really pressure rise from the west what they will take their time and arriving, so i suspect it will be quite a slow process. again, scotland, northern ireland in england, and down into may be north wales and north midlands, dry and sunny. but we will have more hazy cloud further south of that and we will again this see some outbreaks of light rain. nine to 13 degrees the high yet again. as we go through the high yet again. as we go through the lesser stages of the week, when you say we start to see these weather fronts trying to push and from the west. it will be quite a slow process parts of it will gradually bring in a slightly milder air with it. so thursday into friday, the mild air starts to push through, that may come as welcome news for some but unfortunately, he comes at a price. we are gradually going to see things turning a little bit more unsubtle as we head out of the working week into the weekend. that means some more rain in the forecast but it also means temperatures recover back up into the mid—teens for all. that is it.
this is bbc news. i'm ben brown. the headlines at 11:00: the prime minister accepts a three month extension to the brexit process, finally ruling out his earlier promises to leave at the end of this month. tonight, mrjohnson went to ask mps to agree to a general election on december 12th. and despite failing to get the majority he needed, the pm he says he'll try again tomorrow, putting labour's position under pressure. we look forward to a clear, definitive decision that no deal is absolutely off the