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tv   The Papers  BBC News  November 2, 2019 10:30pm-11:01pm GMT

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hello. this is bbc news. we'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment. first, the headlines. celebration for south africa as they beat england to lift the rugby world cup injapan, bringing jubilation to fans. amazing, amazing, amazing! bitter disappointment for england fans — but for some a chance to remember the exciting performances that made them believe they could win the world cup. the best english team we've ever seen, the best mentality, the best players, but you cannot take
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away from south africa. that's unreal, unreal. the government halts fracking for gas in england until there's evidence the controversial process is safe. high winds and rain sweep across southern england and wales, with one woman killed after her car was struck by a falling tree in dorset. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are martin lipton, who's chief sports reporter at the sun, and bonnie greer, playwright, author and columnist for the new european newspaper. thank you forjoining us. a lot of sport featuring on the front pages,
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i think. but let's start with a look at the front pages. the observer leads with the news that conservatives plan to set up an emergency unit to ensure that the nhs doesn't become an electoral liability for tories. the independent reports that the former liberal democrat leader vince cable has called on the voters to vote tactically in order to stop brexit. the sunday telegraph says that members of thejewish community are so fearful of a corbyn government that they will leave if he becomes pm. the sunday express has an interview with the prime minister on its front page. borisjohnson says that voters should back him in order to get brexit done. the sunday times says borisjohnson is facing a corbyn bounce, whilst also featuring a photo of a dejected looking billy vunipola after england lost to south africa. the sunday mirror reveals that photos of the body amelia bambridge, who died whilst backpacking,
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can be found online. the mail on sunday reveals that prince charles is at the centre of an art scandal after it was claimed a painting was a forgery, and not a £50 million monet. those are the front pages. let's have a chat, starting with the fantastic news in the sporting world. not if you are english! for south africa. the significance of this goes beyond sport. bonnie, do you want to kick this off? well, i mean, i you want to kick this off? well, i mean, lam you want to kick this off? well, i mean, i am in a you want to kick this off? well, i mean, lam in a rugby you want to kick this off? well, i mean, i am in a rugby household and of course, england losing was not anything that made anybody happy, however, i'm old enough to remember when this kind of thing not only could not have happened, it did not happen and it could not happen, a black captain, in the team that represented white supremacy, just wasn't a rugby team. the springboks wasn't a rugby team. the springboks was the sporting team for apartheid.
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and so here we are, this young black man is the captain and it was against objections, it was not like everybody clap their hands. he led his team out and when he was a kid, the last time england and south africa were in this position, his family could not even afford a tv so he had to go to the park to see the game. it is really everything that nelson mandela wanted and so it is going to be a really big boost and it isa going to be a really big boost and it is a big boost for the country. south africa really needs this. it is beautiful. his speech was amazing. and it brought in a lot of people, united a lot of people around the idea that somehow, we have all got to live together and do this. it wasjust have all got to live together and do this. it was just a beautiful, humble speech. and they were the better team! they were. yes, much the better team, south africa were excellent, they played their game and it led could not play any kind of game so south africa thoroughly deserved it and it is a truly motivational team. going back to
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1995 when south africa first won the world cup and there was that iconic picture of francois pienaar and nelson mandela both wearing the number six shirt, the only black player was chester williams and even in 2007, there were just a few but 110w in 2007, there were just a few but now half of the squad, a black captain, a symbol of hopefully the beginnings, 25 years down the line but ina beginnings, 25 years down the line but in a post apartheid south africa, a country that can find a bit of reconciliation and a united national team. there were some great pictures from johannesburg of a largely black crowd celebrating. but ithink... in largely black crowd celebrating. but i think... in the green shirts, impossible. yes, and the green springboks shirt was one of the emblems of the boer race, let's be honest, it was a huge part of white south african culture, 25, that yea rs south african culture, 25, that years ago and before and there were times in the 1970s and 80s when there were tours to south africa when the black population wanted south africa to lose because they
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we re south africa to lose because they were not a representative team, they wear a white man's team. this is huge and as i said, they were fantastic on the day. they don't play beautiful rugby but they play their rugby beautifully. they play by, their rugby beautifully. they play rugby, that is what they were playing, rugby and that is really what it looked like. and they did that and i thought it was just an amazing thing to look at. very quickly, what went wrong for england? nerves, the injury to kyle sinckler in the first two minutes did not help and they lost control of the scrum from the very early stages, too many mistakes, they tried to force the issue and played into the hands of a very physical team. they deservedly lost. sometimes you don't play well and you lose. sometimes you are staring too hard at what the other people are doing and you don't play your owfi are doing and you don't play your own game. play your own game! sunday times, double trouble for boris, why is that? this is a pole, one of three, actually, this one shows a bounce in labour support, you go saying labour put on six points between wednesday and friday, but
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they are still 12 behind. what appears from this poll is that... and another one they mentioned, it is only an eight—point lead but a third one is 16, there appears to be a movement towards the two main parties initially at this stage. before the official launch of the campaigns which don't really get under way until we have the ma nifestos under way until we have the manifestos next week. but the question then is, the danger to the tories would be, i'm not sure it could happen, by the way but if there is a squeeze on the remain voted to go a doctor labour, then they will be in danger, the tories. there are two quick things, and i agree with martin, the thing you wa nt agree with martin, the thing you want to watch in this kind of thing is momentum, not necessarily what the numbers are saying but how they are moving and if this is happening, this is bad news for the tories. the second thing isjohn curtis, who has called three general elections correctly, believes that what we're going to wind up with again is a hung parliament and the smaller parties are to take hundred seats
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and that the labour party will form the government because nobody likes the government because nobody likes the tories. we know how the files... exactly. at the last general election, but a particular tactic is being touted on the front of the independent, but interestingly, from sir vince cable, saying what, vote against the lib dems? vote tactically, in other words, find out who the remain party is in your area, even if it is not the lib dems, his party, and vote for them, or whichever looks like it is going towards remain and that is how you vote. i think it does come down to the fight, and i believe this, we can talk about all kinds of things, i know the labour party is trying to do that particularly, but this is going to be a remain, leave election because it is close to what has happened with the deal and people are starting to actually identify themselves as remain or leave with a bunch of other stuff thrown in but if you walk up to people, the
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shorthand is that, they are not talking about the nhs really, they are not talking about anything else, they are talking about brexit and which side of the fence they fall on and that is what it is going to come down to. with it comes down to that, it is bad for labour because nobody knows what they stand for and they don't know themselves, they split. but they know what the tories do, steve, that is the point. this is clearly a lever voting tory leadership, that is their policy, exactly the same way the lib dems are 100% they are not trying to sugar—coat it but labour's problem is they are trying to straddle both sides of the divide, they are falling in the middle and nobody knows what they are doing. falling in the middle and nobody knows what they are doingm falling in the middle and nobody knows what they are doing. if you are going to throw the dice, you are more than likely, you're going to go labour if you throw the dice because nobody believes anything boris says. i won some people clearly do. not a lot. i don't know if any of you courts any answer on the radio today but some people had cottoned onto
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the idea they are voting tactically already. let's go on to the front of the observer, and the nhs possibly becoming an issue and the tories are a bit worried. yes, if the conversation is about the nhs, that does not tend to work well for the conservatives historically, we know that. labour have already started trying to talk about the nhs and talking about potentially american investment, shall we say, and the use of... basically putting up the price of medicine, and no wonder, borisjohnson price of medicine, and no wonder, boris johnson completely price of medicine, and no wonder, borisjohnson completely knocked that back. trump seems to be backing away from it despite having said he wa nted away from it despite having said he wanted the nhs on the table a few weeks ago. but the story is that johnson and the head of nhs england, simon stevens, have had regular meetings. there is a concern for the government that there might be issues of a health crisis, it says, health care crisis which could
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derail the tory party's general election campaign. basically, the tories want to neutralise the issue. labour wants a weaponised issue because it has always been an issue for them. the nhs is this country's prime asset. there isn't anything that compares to the nhs as far as the usa is concerned. nothing. if people think the nhs is not going to be on the table, they are crazy, it will be, in some form or another. boris... i mean, the health secretary matt hancock tweeted me and said, "of course, bonnie, of course it's not going to be on the table, not on our watch!" well, i will have to love. we are going to find that tweet. turning to the telegraph, staying with politics, and jewish people believe if corbyn wins. says james cleverly. to be fair, the telegraph like these quotes are so much, they have used them twice in the same story but there we go, a number of these
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people, says james cleverly, who are considering even, a number of these people, says james cleverly, who we re people, says james cleverly, who were considering leaving, ijewish friends of his who have said that if corbyn got anywhere on the net —— may only the lives of power, they would never have thought he was here that in his lifetime. he would say that, wouldn't he? but i don't think there is any doubt there is a huge concern within thejewish community in this country aboutjeremy corbyn's leadership. they believe, a lot of them, he is anti—semitic, and he would deny that implacably and irrefutably and say it is outrageous. he talks in a very different tone but that is the view ofa different tone but that is the view of a large number of britishjewish people. does that mean they are going to leave the country? that's a different issue but i don't think anyone could pretend that there is not an issue, a problem... the jewish labour movement will not campaignfora labour jewish labour movement will not campaign for a labour government. my argument is and i defer to you at this of course, but my argument is, thatis this of course, but my argument is, that is what the headline should have said, not this headline. within the body of the story, james cleverly says his friends have told him, well, my friends have told me the opposite. is that the gist of
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this story? we are talking about a community that is a vulnerable community that is a vulnerable community everywhere they are, just about. they don't need to see a headline like theirs. the second line in the story says "some", why would the telegraph not but that? that is the truth of the matter and i think this is a dangerous headline for the community, if i can say that, and as an outsider, i think this kind of thing is outrageous that they should be ashamed of themselves. i think there is a genuine issue is doubly but that is not what this stairs, i agree with you. it's not steve! i'm sorry! i look familiar. i'm sorry! but no, i'm saying that is what it should have said but it doesn't say that. there is some other things in this, talking about the campaign, as we enter the campaign, and one of the things that i think will cause a big stink this week is the suggestion in here that the tories will this week
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publish... they are costing labour policies, which isn't normal but this has been compiled apparently by the treasury. civil service neutrality is at issue. let's explore that point. let's have that conversation. we will continue at 11:30pm. for now, that is it for the papers, don't forget, they are all online. it's all there for you, seven days a week, at you could find out a bit more about steve on the iplayer. thank you to martin and bonnie. we'll all be back for that second review in just over half an hour. iam back i am back at the top of the other. next on bbc news it's the travel show.
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in north—western saudi arabia, 1000 kilometres from riyadh, lies the hidden desert city of hegra. you'd be right in thinking it looks similar to petra in jordan. a cultured civilisation of traders known as nabateans who built that, also built this as their second city over 2000 years ago. the difference is that thses sites are relatively unknown. stunningly preserved and unscathed by years of tourism. hegra sits in the vast governate of al ula. i've gotta say, i'm blown away. this is an epic landscape, they say it is nearly the size of belgium! while saudi's international reputation is being questioned right now, billions of dollars are being spent
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on the whole area, appearing it to welcome tourists as part of the country's 2030 plan to shift saudi arabia's economy away from oil dependency to other sectors, such as tourism. and this is one of their star attractions that they are hoping will draw in the crowds. it's brilliant, and you can't believe that it was done thousands of years ago. whilst hegra has unesco world heritage status, it has remained a largely hidden treasure to the rest of the world — until now. by october 2020, the saudi government hopes to have the site fully open and accessible to tourists. so, the nabateans — they survived, they thrived actually, why? do you know what it means, nabatean? no. nabateans means in arabic, a verb which means in english they were discovering the water. so they had a very smart way to discover the water. one of those ways, you can
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see how they carved from the top of that mountain to that well so when it's raining, the water gets down to that well. through those channels... yes. ..and to that? yes. that's incredible. so it literally cascades into there? yeah, and this. archaeologists have so far found 150 wells like this in this area. wow, it is quite big. but really, it's the tombs that have the wow factor. it's certainly very cool down here. this inscription says this tomb belonged to the leader and his wife. in contrast to jordan's petra, the wonder of these tombs lies in the information that researchers have gathered from the text on these stone inscriptions. the occupations, they had a teacher, they had a doctor, so that gives a real example of our civilisation.
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they live a normal life as we live today. they carved from the top to the bottom. you can see the decoration here so they have steps also. nabateans believed when they passed away they get back to their god. so they have five steps on the right and on the left. i remember when i was a child, we came here with the family and we see these tombs. at that time, there wasn't any information about it. so we used the tomb for playing hide and seek. what does it mean to you, the nabatean culture? 0k, it means to me that my city has a lot of history, if you compare yourself with other countries where they are really proud with their civilisation. so we believe al ula deserves to present and offer this for people. for the longest time,
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the area had been largely closed off to archaeologists due to politics, religion and its remoteness. to go into an archaeological world that's never really been examined or touched before, to me is just a remarkable opportunity. and ifeel genuinely excited every time i walk out onto the site. is there a buzz when you find something in particular? there always is. i wouldn't be doing this — i've been doing it for a very, very long time — if i didn't still get that buzz. and jamie believes there are still yet thousands more sites to discover. be the first to witness a land of fascinating journeys... as part of the big push to change its image to the outside world, the saudi government has released a series of pr campaigns. as well as relaxing certain laws, for instance, on women's clothing and on unmarried tourists sharing hotel bedrooms. and they have since launched a new e—visa scheme, open to 49 countries, allowing travellers to stay for up to 90 days.
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though looking on social media, it seems like there is still a way to go to convince people to visit. we've had a lot of social media messages from our audience who are expressing a lot of concern about the human rights condition here, and the conditions for women, female travellers here. how can you reassure them about that? this is a bit of a challenge but saudi arabia has significant history, historical presence, nature and culture, it is again one of our main assets to saudi arabia. we believe that once you are here in saudi arabia, dealing with its people and you will feel the hospitality of the locals and saudis. we have in petra a comparable site. a footfall of 400,000 visits a year. it's going through a big problem in terms of pollution, in terms of over—tourism, really.
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you want 2 million visits a year here. aren't you worried about the effects on this beautiful landscape? two million might seem a big number, however given the size of al ula being 22,000 square kilometres which is almost the size of belgium and again developing the region, in a responsible and sustainable manner is one of our key objectives. we're avoiding mass tourists, so that's is not going to be an issue. i reckon that changing public perception will be the government's biggest challenge, because of its human rights record, equality issues for women and the country's involvement in the ongoing war in yemen. you could argue that the shift to tourism and the need to attract more international visitors may be the trigger to bring genuine reform to saudi arabia. or this could just be
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a charm offensive. but there's no denying this place has some of the greatest and most unspoiled historical remnants in the world, which you can now experience first—hand. so you've landed after hours in the air, you're dragging your suitcase across town, you're exhausted, you're a little frustrated and you've got a busy trip ahead. so you're feeling far from your best. well, sit back and relax because this week, we've got three gadgets designed to help you take care of yourself on the road. first up, we have my skin track uv. this tiny sensor clips onto your collar or bag strap and monitors your exposure to sunlight. it connects to an app and tracks your location to give you real—time information on pollen count, pollution and humidity.
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the app then recommends skin regimens based on your skin tone and those environmentalfactors. the sensor itself is fairly unobtrusive, it's light and batteryless and that clip is nice and sturdy. today, the sun is trying to poke its head out from behind the clouds, so let's give it a go and see how it works. the app is telling me the uv index is a moderate level so there is a very small risk of getting sunburned today, which is something that i definitely wouldn't have predicted, given the overcast state of the day. it's also worth bearing in mind this has been released by a skincare brand so no surprises it's recommending its own skincare products which does give the whole thing a little bit of an advertorial vibe. but the bottom line is we should all be more aware of the harmful effects that uv has on our skin, and the sensor can certainly help make you a little bit more conscious about it. you've made it to your hotel room with just enough time to freshen up. coming in a rather sleek travel case, the genius—x electric toothbrush claims to be one of
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the world's smartest toothbrushes. complete with al brushing recognition. i know, a toothbrush with artificial intelligence. what exactly does that mean? in this case, a! has been used to analyse thousands of different kinds of toothbrushing techniques. that information has been used to give you feedback on the way you brush your teeth. so we are now in the coaching part of the app. apparently i have got a brushing score of 1%, which is pretty poor! i promise i can brush my teeth properly. i was brushing on camera. that is my excuse and i'm sticking to it. so, i'm not sure how i feel about this thing. that was a pretty harsh critique of my technique. what it did do was make me want to go back and try again and do better, which i did. i got a much better score.
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so it kind of gamifies the toothbrushing process, which i think is fun. the fact that last two weeks on a single charge means it is a brilliant though slightly expensive way to look your gnashers on your travels. nothing is worse than feeling run down when you arrive at any destination, but sometimes when you travel on your own, you need an objective opinion to tell you how you really look. the hi mirror slide is a smart mirror with a built—in camera. it can analyse your face and give you feedback on the condition of your skin before giving you tips and product recommendations. a normal mirror at the front flanked by ridiculously bright lights. slab open. all right, it has just taken my photo. a few areas of analysis. pores, red spots, dark spots, wrinkles. this is definitely not for those who offend easily. i'm not sure how i feel about being subjected to quite brutal cosmeticjudgment. designed to be portable but it is
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pretty big for a travel mirror so you might not want to take up space in your suitcase. and while it is a nice idea in theory it's critical and quite clinical in assessment of your facial flaws which is definitely not for everybody. hello. the worst of the winds we've seen today are easing but we have had some particularly nasty weather today in terms of wind but also heavy rain in places. this is one view from one of our weather watchers in cornwall. in terms of wind gusts today, i mean, it is a very exposed site but the isle of wight, the weather station there, 109 mph, and in plymouth, 83 mph, and across much of southern england and south wales and into the channel islands and isles of scilly, it was very stormy for a time. while it remains blustery as we get into the night, it is not going to be as windy as it has been. there are some areas of wet weather still to contend with, affecting parts of england and wales and through to eastern scotland. drying up though for many of us in northern ireland, parts of south—west scotland, north—west england, north wales, could be one or two mist and fog patches to start the day tomorrow. low pressure is still with us but it is not the beast
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that it was on saturday. there are still some weather fronts queueing up to come in as we go from sunday into monday. the picture for sunday, though, further rain towards the northern and eastern scotland, just not the intensity we have seen as we go through the day. lots of cloud in northern england, some rain at times and dry weather through northern ireland, north wales, the midlands, east anglia and the southeast with sunny spells. further rain pushing up across south—west england. these are average wind speeds, gusts will be stronger, near a0 mph in northern scotland and on the coasts in the south—west of england. temperatures topping out mainly in the range of 10—14 celsius. the big picture as we go from sunday into monday, as we mentioned earlier, further weather fronts poised to move in. the winds are not going to be too much of a feature with this next weather system coming in. it will still be blustery in places on the outer flanks of this weather system but there will be further rain to come and some outbreaks of rain stretching from northern ireland, through parts of scotland, especially from the east into northern england and a chance of heavy, thundery showers
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across southern england and into south wales. as we look at the picture going into tuesday, the low pressure beginning to push away. as it does so, we drag in a flow of colder air coming in from the north north—east, still with a few showers around but also some sunny spells. many of us will begin to notice a change in the feel of the weather continuing into wednesday. going into wednesday morning, in fact, as we drag down this cold air, there will be a frost for many of us, but the lull in the weather does not last long. it is wetter again through the second half of the week.
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this is bbc news. the headlines at 11 o'clock. a third world cup for south africa — beating england in the final, the victory injapan sparks wild celebrations from sprinbok fans across the globe. amazing, amazing, amazing! what a game. this is the biggest world cup in the world! the first springboks team captained by a black player, nelson mandela's grandson told the bbc this victory is a symbol of unity and change since the end of apartheid.
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