tv Election 2019 BBC News November 22, 2019 9:00pm-10:01pm GMT
a first of all saying there could be a scottish referendum within two yea rs. very scottish referendum within two years. very specific, more than usually is, may in the early years ofa usually is, may in the early years of a labour government but his opponent use that against them saying there was too referendums coming down the track. also more clearly tha n coming down the track. also more clearly than before, that he would be neutral any labour eu referendum so be neutral any labour eu referendum $03 be neutral any labour eu referendum so a bit more decisive about sitting on the fence. nicola sturgeon was actually saying she would play ha rd ball actually saying she would play hardball with actually saying she would play hard ball with labour there was actually saying she would play hardball with labour there was a hung parliament, boris johnson hardball with labour there was a hung parliament, borisjohnson was unable to drift back to talking about brexit the whole time, challenging the public services and his own rhetoric. before we talk to the various teams let's pick out some of the stand out moments from each of the leaders starting with his revelation
miro and the role of our government will be to ensure that the referendum is held in a fair atmosphere and we will abide by the result of it and i will adopt as prime minister a neutral stance so that i can credibly carry out the results of that to bring our communities and country together. do you thinkjeremy corbyn is going to walk away from the chance to end austerity and protect the nhs and stop universal credit simply because she wants for a couple of years to prevent scotland to have the right to self—determination? jeremy corbyn supports the right of self—determination for almost every other country in the world. we achieved same—sex marriage, cut taxes, gender pay gap reporting, a whole. things we achieved in government and i want us to do more and that's why i ambitious for the future because our country can have a brighter future and it starts with remaining in the eu. people voted
three and a half years for their role to be respected, every other party you have had on tonight has basically tried to frustrate that outcome. we have a deal and it is a good deal, it will allow us... some applause from the prime minister. the first question to borisjohnson tonight was why should trust and a person that occupies number ten be so person that occupies number ten be so important. of course because it was a good audience, the asked informed questions, yes they asked about trust but the biggest theme of the evening the question for all the leaders was on brexit when the prime minister had a very clear answer, he has a deal and wants to get it done, thatis has a deal and wants to get it done, that is why we are having the
election and we saw that is why we are having the election and we saneremy corbyn sing he would be neutral on the biggest issue of the day, unable to see on a deal he city could negotiate with you then want to leave or remain on that deal. that is the contrast between two men vying to be prime ministers. the standard from the evening that he will remain neutral and a referendum, negotiate a deal with the eu and then stand aside from that poster campaign unfolded. which is extraordinary. high with the eu give new terms for a new deal with you there was then not going to advocate for that deal. jeremy corbyn does not have a position on the biggest issue of the day, boris johnson has been a very clean which is that a deal on the table we need a conservative majority to get the deal done and through and we want to the other issues which the audience did rightly raise with all of the leaders stop going back. boris
johnson city didn't want to interfere with the timetable. when will you release the russian report? russian interference or any kind of... russian interference or any kind of. . . there russian interference or any kind of... there is no evidence that i know to show any interference in the british electoral event at the reason i will not as i see no reason to interfere with the normal timetable. that is not true. dominic grieve said that should have been a waste in october. —— released in october. that audience member not taking no foran october. that audience member not taking no for an answer. there is nothing in there about russian interference then why not release it. there is a very clear way select
committee reports get released, they have to go to parliament fast and a parliament is not sitting then it is not possible to release them and the primers that is also very clean about no evidence of russian interference in a democratic was an important issue for that audience member but the prime minister was very clear, there was a good reason, the parliamentary timetable not to be released. are you satisfied with that answer that the primers that does not want to mess with the parliamentary timetable? does not want to mess with the parliamentary timetable ?|j does not want to mess with the parliamentary timetable? i was not satisfied in anyway with anything that borisjohnson said in a few look at the brexit process every step of the way it has been dithering and delay from him, concealing things and having to push as an opposition to shine light on the process and transparency. the stock contrast between jeremy corbyn who is clearly on the side of the people, that room showed he was and
borisjohnson, the people, that room showed he was and boris johnson, the countries people, that room showed he was and borisjohnson, the countries could not be any more stark. —— the contrast. jeremy corbyn was adamant there will be no coalition with the snp, nicola sturgeon said can you believe with such an ambitious ma nifesto believe with such an ambitious manifesto and putting social policies to the country that he will walk away from his best shot stop he would definitely go into a coalition with the snp put up. would definitely go into a coalition with the snp put uplj would definitely go into a coalition with the snp put up. i think we are oi'i with the snp put up. i think we are on course to form a labour government with jeremy corbyn as prime ministers, we will not have a minority government, jeremy corbyn should what a compassionate and caring person he has, he has been a parliament for over 30 years and never voted against the interest of the working people. look at the re cord the working people. look at the record on borisjohnson, he could not tell us how he would eradicate
poverty. one of the most fundamental questions of a time, he could not answer that question and somebody that wants to be prime minister says they didn't not to advocate that. our fully costed manifesto puts the add occasional poverty at the centre of everything. the key question was brexit onjeremy corbyn city is neutral and so the question for shadow cabinet members as are you neutral as well. this is what they wa nt neutral as well. this is what they want us to do and brexit as an important issue, jeremy corbyn city will be an honest broker but it is up will be an honest broker but it is up to the people. you can shake your head, you are not standing at the selection of election and we have the battle of our lives to make sure people are not on the wrong side of the food bank you having to ask for food for their children. on the doorsteps of course brexit is an
issue, people talk about it and want to know what a future relationship with the eu will be but the also wa nt with the eu will be but the also want to know about the nhs and schools and their pay and... on brexit we have been very clear and jeremy corbyn has been the cleanest of all to see the political establishment have failed for the last the end they have years to get that done. let me just. .. you were saying jeremy corbyn is compassionate and kidding, you quite a tough time on his record on anti—semitism, love i had to talking about free speech and human rights was that i have two young daughters and what terrifies me as i look at some of the labour mps, some female labour mps some of the labour mps, some female labourmps and some of the labour mps, some female labour mps and the misogyny happening, driven out the party.|j look at a video on you should i am going to give you the benefit of the don't get a video online where a
jewish mp was heckled out of that press conference , jewish mp was heckled out of that press conference, it is online and there you are at the end of the press conference chatting happily to that same heckler. i do not buy nice old grandpa, i see that video that tells me all i need to know and i am terrified for my daughters because eyes i see what you do in that video. i do not understand how you can see you stand up for human rights and that is how you support a labourmp ata rights and that is how you support a labour mp at a labour press co nfe re nce labour mp at a labour press conference was that i think it is disgraceful. applause nobody should suffer any abuse and publish private life. nobody should suffer abuse and many women labour mps have suffered the most unbelievable levels of abuse and it was a labour unbelievable levels of abuse and it wasa labourmp unbelievable levels of abuse and it was a labour mpjo cox who was murdered because she stood up for public life. i say to you that bad
behaviour, misogynistic, racism is absolutely not acceptable in any form whatsoever in my party and our society. i have not seen the video in question but i know that ruth has had horrendous abuse. as she had enough support from jeremy corbyn?|j think that gentlemen mistakenly said she has left the party, she has not was there are otherjewish women who sent felt they had to leave the party. i am sent felt they had to leave the party. lam not sent felt they had to leave the party. i am not going to see that racism is not an issue, it clearly is andl racism is not an issue, it clearly is and i spent eight years working foran is and i spent eight years working for an antiracism organisation to tackle that very issue and other forms of racism. it is central to the labour party mission, a party that stands up for equality and antiracism, anti—racist activists and we hunt herself to account and i
know our general secretary has a huge amount of work into that are being looked at. it is very important that we also look at the conditions that cause racism in society and eradicating them and making sure every single jewish person in this country feels safe. some would point to the prime minister who again refused to apologise for some of his comments, women are dressed as letterboxes, why can you not apologise? he explained those articles, city had written million of once and he talked about the reckon of the conservative party, two female prime ministers. jeremy corbyn was actually proud that the human rights commission was investigating the liver particle top can he really say that about an expression like but
boys? ? he was defending what they wa nted boys? ? he was defending what they wanted to wear. the labour party... they talk over each other this man wishes to be prime minister, . .. this man wishes to be prime minister,... limit about manifestos. 500 got to the second of it is the conservative manifesto not published? conservative manifesto not published ? this conservative manifesto not published? this audience could not scrutinise the policies because the premise that is not out there. the debates are obviously very important but the most important test as the
electorate, postal votes work next week and that is important people have the manifestos before that moment. your manifesto, one audience member said it terrified him.|j think there is nothing to be terrified about and our manifesto. in fact it is the most hopeful... not according to the institute for fiscal studies. they called not credible. i think their reaction was very quick, when we look at the criticisms they have had they have not seen all the policies and the round and i hope we consider that first impression because economists saying it absolutely is credible and effective the matter is everything that we are proposing, speaks to the incredible challenges of our time. the conservatives, liberal democrats, the are completely uninspiring. our vision is credible and speaks to the endemic poverty,
climate breakdown and all the other things people are experiencing at the end of a decade of austerity. one thing in the liver manifesto is the policy and social care, we did today there are rumours that is no deal policy on social care within the conservative manifesto, the cap is again down the road. we should wait until we see the manifesto published, see the details of that. biggest issue of the campaign is about how parliament has got a majority government conservative government to get brexit done, we cannot debate any other issue until we have got brexit done. how patronising is that two people sat in poverty who care about brexit but also want to know how their lives will change, pay and local hospitals and schools at the end of a decade of study. they might austerity.
—— hostility. thank you. there is plenty more on the bbc website. we are going to talk and offer a lot more about what has gone on this evening. talking to the various genres here, it was quite a polished performance from nicola sturgeon. it was added any objective you she won this tonight, she was the best performer, she answered the questions honestly and openly ended up think anyone can ask any more from a political leader. she thinks that jeremy
corbyn will have to go into coalition with the snp because why wouldn't dfe is in a minority government and is to get this ma nifesto government and is to get this manifesto through. that is precisely the point, the once a queen speech and a budget through, fes depended on the votes of the snp then of course it is a discussion to be had. he said tonight it would not be in the early years of illiberal ministration, that tells me he has accepted the principle, that is very end up and move forward from there. some people commenting there was not a lot of applause for the liberal democrats, i want to see the audience is divided majority among labour and conservatives because the took most of the votes so it is not afair took most of the votes so it is not a fair reflection of what people think of their ideas but time and time again you are having to defend this policy of revoking article 50 without a vote. was it in hindsight
really necessary? what you sought to write is thatjo really necessary? what you sought to write is that jo swinson really necessary? what you sought to write is thatjo swinson is really necessary? what you sought to write is that jo swinson is clear and unequivocal and passionate about out and unequivocal and passionate about our need, we all believe we need to remain in the eu. she is being honest with the british public and say you vote for us and we will fight to remain in the eu. we will stop brexit. you heard of the audience member singh liberal democrats is a misnomer when you are cancelling a referendum without a vote. we are not cancelling any referendum, 17 times we have put down an amendment to get people final say on the deal but we have been clear and passionate about staying in the europe and we have been open eyelevel and straight. that was in complete contrast to what you sought from boris johnson who is accused of being arrogant and not truthful, not accepting he has been demeaning to women and ethnic minorities and jeremy corbyn stitched up a deal with the snp which will concern every unionist in
scotland that we are being sold down the level by the snp and labour together in order to get power. we will come back to that any second, i wa nt to will come back to that any second, i want to continue this policy of article 50. as a sojo swinson responded. as a forking article 50 saying that 17 million people are stupid and do not they were voting for? the other democrats standing on a manifesto to unilaterally cancelled brexit has absolutely question my vote. liberal democratic party title is now a misnomer, how can you defend that decision? applause you have an unhappy leave an unhappy remain. what i would say in terms of a policy, we have been very straightforward as a party that we
wa nt to straightforward as a party that we want to stop brexit. you might agree oi’ want to stop brexit. you might agree or disagree, i do not think you can accuse us or disagree, i do not think you can accuse us of not being upfront about wanting to stop brexit. we have been crystal clear about that from the very beginning. not for one second doi very beginning. not for one second do i think that that means that you are anybody like you is stupid, i think it means you disagree. i really wa nt think it means you disagree. i really want us to be any situation in this country where we can disagree with each other and that means that you want to leave and i don't think that picture a bad person and i want to remain and an i hope you think that doesn't make me a bad person. you can disagree with me but you lost, you do not get to keep disagreeing, change it because you lost. i haven't changed my view. notan you lost. i haven't changed my view. not an easy one and she was asked several times about this, just give you a final thought on that. we have been absolutely clear, we want to remain in the eu, we have worked ha rd remain in the eu, we have worked hard to give people a final say on
this, we are no any general election and a vote for us as a vote to remain in the eu. we stop on a stressor, we are not making any deals... given the focus were not have cancel that policy. we have been clearly stand, straight people, you're talking about the politics of the future in building a brighter future every domain in the eu and we're not going into coalition stitching up the future of scotland in the snp and labour are. scottish independence, nicola sturgeon be clear that scottish independence was not her only policy. let's have a listen. a very good question about out listen. a very good question about our reprioritising independence over other issues, the evidence is no. scotland has challenges, all countries have challenges, as first ministerl countries have challenges, as first minister i face challenges and public services every single day and myjob is to confront those but if you look at some of the policies in
the labour manifesto, if you take things like free prescriptions, free university education, restoring the nursing bursary, opposition to fracking, these are things my government in scotland has already done so we are getting on with delivering the most progressive policies but we want to be in charge of her own future, not to turn our backs on the uk, we will always be the closest friends and neighbours but so that we do not get right down pasts by 20 governments that we do not want to go down. there was one question about whether and calling for the coalition with labour in fa ct for the coalition with labour in fact nicola sturgeon is putting scottish independence ahead of the good of the country, she is actually tying jeremy corbyn's hands that if you does not come on board with the snp she will not put into number ten. i do think anyone should be surprised at the leader of the snp is for scottish independence but we
are about far more than that, we went to genuinely stop brexit and we also want progressive politics. if that means making sure that nhs cannot be traded away through some kind of brexit auditory deal that is a good thing. but jeremy the massive investment in scotland over the next couple of years, you are saying you wa nt couple of years, you are saying you wantan couple of years, you are saying you want an independence vote before 2021. i have voted against every single bit of tory investment, i have supported every bit of capital investment to scotland and the rest of the uk so of course i welcome that at the world does not stand still just because that at the world does not stand stilljust because you might have a minority labour government. what happens at the tories get elected and five years or ten years? we're right back to square one. this is a democratic of principle, the scottish people must have the right to choose their future, not have it imposed on them. if labour doesn't
give you that referendum before 2021, no coalition? one would hope ofjeremy corbyn 2021, no coalition? one would hope of jeremy corbyn wants 2021, no coalition? one would hope ofjeremy corbyn wants to be in power if he wants to deliver progressive politics he is not going to say no i am going to turn my back and open the door to borisjohnson. just because of the scottish independence. you would put jeremy corbyn and number tenlj independence. you would put jeremy corbyn and number ten i would lock borisjohnson out of. corbyn and number ten i would lock boris johnson out of. you are saying you were jeremy corbyn and number ten, let's be clear we are not doing that you would be prepared. answer my question. the one thing we know about the lib dems...
my question. the one thing we know about the lib dems. .. value my question. the one thing we know about the lib dems... value put jeremy corbyn and number ten? they talk over each other ido they talk over each other i do not think we are going to get an answer. thank you. you will get plenty more reaction from people here and the spin room, live testing and stuart out of the beef we can bring matt hancock in and added mcdonald. nice to see you. thank you for being with us. as you neutral on the brexit referendum question mark adam and mike i'm asking the questions.
they talk over each other people who voted to remain horrified... it is essentially importantly bring people together and that is the position ofjeremy corbyn. so he can be the honest broker. how long would he be neutral? we have said very plainly that immediately upon being elected we would resolve ideal within three months because the work has already been done, keir starmer and jeremy had those conversations with the eu, they know they are receptive to a customs union added to that alignment, it is a sensible way forward and be put that opposite the option to domain that will get it resolved within six months from entering government. is he going to be neutral through the process of the negotiation in brussels? the whole purpose is to ensure we have a customs union... presumably he is
going to negotiate the deal. absolutely. then he cannot be neutral. that is the people who will decide this, every constituent through the country will decide, let's have faith in them and put the alternatives to them of a credible deal opposite remain and we need a prime minister who will implement that decision without any hesitation. the question is how are you going to vote? i voted and campaigned to remain but what we are saying as the people should decide. what i am terrified of is the very neutral about your terrible ad deal that would cripple the economy in my pa rt that would cripple the economy in my part of the world. 32,000... that would cripple the economy in my part of the world. 32,000. .. can i just but an? hang on. the news this
evening asjeremy corbyn says he will be neutral and a second referendum that he himself calls, people like his right—hand man, he is not neutral and the total abject lack of leadership saying you want a second referendum but then not having position, as it in or out? it isa having position, as it in or out? it is a very simple question. what we saw was that was only one party leader, borisjohnson, saw was that was only one party leader, boris johnson, clarity saw was that was only one party leader, borisjohnson, clarity and brexit to deliver brexit and get the country moving forward. the question thatis country moving forward. the question that is going to dock every labour member member sru neutral? what andy is saying is member of the party will campaign him of the want to campaign. jeremy corbyn will remain neutral so that whatever happens and a second referendum he will be any
position to follow through. in a way thatis position to follow through. in a way that is what initially david cameron said. in 2060 city will campaign for remain but will enact whatever you want. jeremy corbyn has today abdicated the leadership even of the labour party because the question andy would not answer is how will you? we have said consistently we are going to bring people together. for a second referendum? that is pretty rude. when struck about the ma nifest pretty rude. when struck about the manifest because the labour party put it out, was still not know what the consumptive platform as i have not got it now? we have no idea, we cannot debate on the basis of facts.
we will set up the manifesto soon and it will show that firstly you have to get brexit done because that is the issue that has bedevilled politics in this country for three yea rs politics in this country for three years and everything else has got stuck and we can of the country forward and then have the positive domestic agenda like the nhs, social care, domestic agenda like the nhs, social ca re, very clear domestic agenda like the nhs, social care, very clear on social care that people should not have to sell their home in order to pay for their care and we want to build that consensus that the country needs. a cross— party that the country needs. a cross—party consensus but no policy to deal with the crisis? if what i did today is correct there will be a next £1 billion for social care, thatis next £1 billion for social care, that is not a policy and not really to touch the sites. annex £1 billion isa to touch the sites. annex £1 billion is a important policy in the short—term and also building a cross— party short—term and also building a cross—party consensus based on the principle that you should not have
to sell your home to pay for your care. you will have the manifesto. this policy was a disaster and the 2017 manifesto antibodies you agree to dock it people do not focus on what the policy is. we've already set out a part of the policy which is that people will not have to sell their home in order to pay for care but you cannot deliver any of these things if you cannot get brexit done, and what you've heard tonight as the labour party's decision... i've heard that bit. not to ta ke decision... i've heard that bit. not to take a position on brexit. decision... i've heard that bit. not to take a position on brexitlj decision... i've heard that bit. not to take a position on brexit. i will let you ask a question since you asked so many. what you think of the conservative social policy? i'm concerned about how many hospitals you will get. i want the numbers gone from 40, 20, six... will be get the six? —— my i've heard the number
go from. you will get six. gratis 20 come in? were the six come in? it is reducing exponentially in the wrong direction. listen, we will build 40 hospitals over the next ten years. on the steps of downing street, borisjohnson promised on the steps of downing street, boris johnson promised 20 on the steps of downing street, borisjohnson promised 20 hospital upgrades, we've already got them going. that is the action we've been able to take, we've taken the decision. 40 hospitals will be built over ten years. you heard from the nurse that works in a&e, the state of morale at the national health service, saying people are dying and accusing your party of lying over the national health service. you heard it, i heard it, and you have to have a response to that. you have to have a response to that. you have to have a response to that. you have to have the biggest investment in history in the nhs. the programme of building hospitals in a generation, evenif building hospitals in a generation, even if it is just yesterday showed
more doctors, there is an increase in 2010. 43,000 nurses short. you scrappy in 2010. 43,000 nurses short. you scrappy bursaries, you cannot suddenly rock up nine years later and say, the mess and misery with cause, we now have a plan. you cause that in the first place. you're responsible for state of the national health service and its deterioration. final word. national health service and its deterioration. finalword. you national health service and its deterioration. final word. you the final word is we have been very clear on that. the documents are published on the internet but the... what i would say finally is we can only be of this debate forward if we can get brexit done and what is learnt tonight as the labour party have chosen for total indecision on brexit. and on the doorstep sport on the doorsteps, when you open a door, when a door opens and a labour party candidate stands there and says, we've decided to be neutral on brexit, it will go down like a lead balloon. it doesn't, people understand the offering are making
very clearly. i knock on doors right around the country thought might men gotta leave it there. thank you for being with us this evening. we know where the fault lines are, don't we? we know where those two were coming from. what on brexit tonight and of course labour party very keen to talk about their manifesto which of course was published just yesterday. let's pick up with someone whose leader was not represented on the station night, the green party. you're watching from the sidelines tonight. disappointing not to be taking part tonight, i know, but you will be at the debate on the 29th in wales taking part. what did you make of the climate policy tonight? did you hear anything reassuring?|j you hear anything reassuring?” thought they were barely touched on in this is a difference of having a green in the room. this election needs to be the climate election, the un has to be there to make sure
their policy in place to keep us below 1.5 degrees. the reality is, we will keep this policy in place over the next two months. this has to bea over the next two months. this has to be a priority, it is bigger than brexit and we are just on the road from the severe devastation at the floods have caused. it clearly climate and ecological crisis is at our door. you're from matt hancock talking about health policy, other policies. these are nothing will be done until this issue on brexit assault. this as i want bring it back to a people vote because it is clear that the last government and the next government will be an deadlock if we don't bring it back to the people. we need to ensure that we have remain as an option but now we have that on the table, bringing it back. this is what has to be negotiated and have that final say because you never sign a contract without leading the small —— reading the small print.
contract without leading the small -- reading the small print. you're in an electoral pact with the liberal democrats who want to cancel the brexit referendum without another vote. and we don't agree with everything... why are you in people want a politics that is about collaboration sometimes because you sink competition to apart our country in the last 3.5 years have prove n country in the last 3.5 years have proven what competition between ideas create and there are political parties, many of the ideas we discussed today that we do agree on, and when we collaborate on the shared values, no shared ideas and a bruise we can have a more grown—up type of conversation. thank you for coming up you to share your thoughts. we want to try and get some reaction from members of the audience later on this evening because i think many people would agree that when we were listening from the audience tonight, there we re from the audience tonight, there were some fairly fierce questions, they are good at asking the questions, aren't they? we will see if we can get one or two of them up here. you are here. i saw you
interjecting from the side. lucy harris is your from the brexit party. you couldn't contain yourself so you had to dive in. the labour gentleman said jeremy is right and taking a neutral stance over brexit. he is completely cowardly for taking a neutral stance of a brexit. it com pletely u na cce pta ble a neutral stance of a brexit. it completely unacceptable that when our laws and all the things we hold dear to ourselves, the reason we are leaving the european union, jackson control the law that govern our country and you want to take a neutral stance over that. it's com pletely neutral stance over that. it's completely unacceptable, neutral stance over that. it's com pletely u na cce pta ble, cowardly, feeble. you say you want to take control of the laws of our country but today you put out a manifesto which i think a 22 pages long. that is not... it's not a manifesto. it certainly not a manifesto for government. had no but it is a contract government. had no but it is a co ntra ct to government. had no but it is a contract to the people and a lot of times when political parties put out ma nifestos, times when political parties put out manifestos, they never follow it up, like labour saying they would leave the european union and they never actually folded up and actually voted against every attempt to leave
the european union. manifestos are not worth the paper they're written on. use knock down everything. you put out a people's contract, a booklet that is 22 pages long. some would say, is this a pressure move now or a political party? we expect to get mps. where? very, very good chance in ashfield, good chance across the country. in those marginal seats or people are fed up with labour, where labour should be having a look at themselves and thinking, are we doing what the ordinary working class folk of those areas want? they are not. they are not doing it any longer. this is when the brexit party make a breakthrough and say, guys, this is a new party, we believe in you, we believe in your local communities, come on board with us, forget labour, come and decide on brexit. you accuse the labour party of switching tracks on brexit to neutral but you've heard from nigel farage in this election that he was
opposed to borisjohnson's withdrawal agreement, now he has not now he is opposed to the lines of the transition. he wasn't opposed to the transition. he wasn't opposed to the agreement at all. there has been a slight misunderstanding of the transition thing on your behalf. basically nigel has accepted that we wa nted basically nigel has accepted that we wanted a transition period, you wa nted wanted a transition period, you wanted a transition period, you wanted a canada plus the l and i think that is a perfectly reasonable position to be in because of music and make fair trade deals with eve ryo ne a cross and make fair trade deals with everyone across the world and actually benefit the people here at home. it's a reasonable position to be in. and a good one. but he has switched positions, hasn't he? he absolutely has. it's for the benefit and a good benefit of the country. white met people in europe are saying there's no chance you'll get a trade deal inside eight months. i lot of people said he would not open the withdrawal agreement and we did. so you still think it's possible to get something inside a year? we have
done so much already has a country andi done so much already has a country and i don't see how if we put all of our manpower behind us, we cannot. you have to believe in what our government can do and i do. what might nigel farage not on the stage tonight but is not entitled to a place on the stage when he's not running himself. nigel farah has had the whole evening the other night on question time which i watched and i think is appearing again on your show ina think is appearing again on your show in a few days, so keep watching. good to have you with us, thank you very much indeed. thank you. that is the view of the brexit party. let's bring in the man who has been crunching the numbers, looking at what was said tonight on the stage and it's a reality check correspondent chris morris. interesting, wasn't it? one of the interesting things was because of the nature of the question, i would not say it was a factory zone but the leaders we are being asked to justify their opinions and so there is not a huge amount of facts there to check. there were you you old favourites came up. borisjohnson said he was building 40 hospitals.
andy mcdonald not buying it. i'm not saying i agree with him on everything. there was money therefore six hospitals. there are new buildings on six existing sites and 34 possibly to come. it is about the context as well. if you build 40 hospitals, you could imply that a 40 sparkling new building springing up around the country. you will not have to pay any more tax. true according to labour‘s plans. if you look at income tax, not necessarily in the savings and the share prices. it's more complicated than that. white you did
good work, i was reading on the way up good work, i was reading on the way up here that the idea of who is a tire that might high tax owner and i was a man last night he was saying, i'm nota was a man last night he was saying, i'm not a hi taxpayer, i think around the 80,000 mark. what is the top 5% in terms of salary? around the 80,000 mark. what is the top 596 in terms of salary? way below 80,000 put you in the top 5%. he said he was not in the top 50%, you're in the top 50% if you earn over around £25,500. a lot of people in the country don't necessarily realise how many people are what many people think of is very low pat’- many people think of is very low pay. that would feed into that. you do not feel that you are as rich as you maybe should. in the cost of housing, yes. such a big benefit as it might seem, that is something that comes up time and time again. that is something jeremy corbyn
would like to talk about. possibly most difficult moment for him, for the second time in a week, when asked about the issue of trust in politics, i believe it's important, members of the audience laughed. not all members, i know the audience was chosen so there are some labour supporters, lib dem supporters, snp supporters, lib dem supporters, snp supporters and tory supporters but the fact that people have laughed when he said he believes in politics. and no horse -- hostility to him but also to the other leaders. i was saying this on social media that there is a real lack of trust in all politicians at the moment and that showing through tonight. there were tough questions. joe swinson had a tough time justifying the idea of revoking article 50 and stopping brexit immediately without even... and also nick clegg, she cannot get away from that. she turned up in glasgow today
and was harassed up in glasgow by people who really cannot forgive him for some of the austerity measures. and think she voted for when she was a leader at the time but you did —— that was not the reader what she did vote for them. boris johnson that was not the reader what she did vote for them. borisjohnson would not apologise for the things he has written that he defended himself. he said it was a country of free speech but it was a difficult night forjoe swinson. she was asked about liberal democrat bar chart. they certainly put out some questionable bar charts in theircampaign put out some questionable bar charts in their campaign literature, the
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