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anthonyjoshua to prove himself and get on top? i anthonyjoshua to prove himself and get on top? i really, really do believe that anthonyjoshua can win his belt back. it is going to be a very sticky fight, nip and tuck. i think it is going to catch fire very early on and it will test him again, especially his mental willpower. he is going to have to be switched on all the way through. he is going to have to box a clever fight and not get involved. i believe he can do it, he is a very experienced man and is determined as ever. i'm going to go with an anthonyjoshua win. charlie edwards there, a friend of anthonyjoshua. let's charlie edwards there, a friend of anthony joshua. let's have charlie edwards there, a friend of anthonyjoshua. let's have a look at the weather now. is it a stormy interesting week ahead 7 our is named storm of the season is on our way to the british isles which will be arriving to my. —— our first named storm. a lot of cloud across the uk now, and the chow the north—west wales and north—west
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england, northern ireland a lot of cloud, and in scotland we have got heavy rain which is going to put its weight north eastwards this afternoon, quite mild, temperatures ten or ii. overnight tonight, the band of rain pushes eastwards which is going to be heavy, accompanied by fairly squally winds, we are looking at blustery showers following across northern and western areas, it is a mild night, temperatures 6—9 account of the strong winds, and tomorrow it isa of the strong winds, and tomorrow it is a much windier date across all of the country, a day of sunshine and showers, the showers merging together to give lengthy spells of rain in the north—west as it starts to turn colder, but it is discreet in the isobars, the strongest winds going around coastal parts of ireland, gusts of 80 mph and then through sunday night, around the coast of wales and south—west england, gus could reach 70 mph, perhaps a bit stronger which may well lead to some disruption as we head into the first part of monday. that is the latest weather.
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hello, this is bbc news with geeta guru murthy. the headlines. angry exchanges over brexit and the nhs as borisjohnson and jeremy corbyn squared up for the last tv debate before thursday's general election. the online message board reddit says leaked documents detailing uk—us trade talks are "linked to russia". calls for an independent review after a serial rapist is found guilty of kidnapping and multiple rapes after being released from prison by mistake. warnings that a mega bushfire near sydney that's burning out of control could take weeks to put out. now on bbc news, to mark the 20th anniversary of talking movies, tom brook speaks to the prolific bollywood actor, shah rukh khan.
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great to see you. i didn't know it was such a big thing, i thought i was just meeting you personally. oh, really? hello from mumbai. i'm tom brook. for a special 20th anniversary edition of talking movies, i came to india to interview top bollywood superstar shah rukh khan. we're here outside his home, where fans congregate at all hours of the day. he is the king of bollywood, followed by millions. he's my hero. i just simply love him. how big a legend is shah rukh khan? oh, i can't explain this. it's beyond imagination. right now, i've got goosebumps. so nice to see you. i greeted him as he arrived at a special mumbai event to mark the 20th anniversary of talking movies. this 54—year—old megastar seemed delighted to be there. i have to confess i am biased
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when it comes to shah rukh khan — i am a fan myself, and i have interviewed him several times before. visiting bollywood this time, he was the one i wanted to talk to about the changes taking place in the indian film industry, and ask him where he is headed next with his career. shah rukh khan's first bollywood film was the action romance drama deewana in 1992. but he became known for playing antiheroes, villainous characters — the first role of that ilk was in baazigar in 1993. yet it is for his work in a series of romantic films for which he is best known. born a muslim and married to a hindu, he has become a unifying figure in india, at a time when there are few.
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and he has won 14 filmfare awards, the hindi film industry's equivalent of the oscars. our invited audience, made up of loyal shah rukh khan fans, were eager to hear what he had to say. all right, now for the moment everyone has been waiting for. we have a great guest of honour here tonight, who i am going to interview. let's have a big round of applause for shah rukh khan! cheering and applause. you sit here. thank you very much. on behalf of talking movies, a very big welcome, especially on the occasion of our 20th anniversary, it really means a lot to have you here and to be able to talk to you. tell me, did you always want to be an actor? ok, so i, first i want to say thank you tom for having me here this evening, and ifully respect the wonderfulness of talking movies that you've created at the bbc,
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but i came here only to see you. honestly, i truly hold him singlehandedly responsible for making indian movies, and indian stars, men and women alike, extremely important in the western world. so thank you for having me over, and thank you for such a wonderful hello. when you ask about, did i always want to be an actor? i don't know, it's like i want to know, did you always want to be an anchor? did you want to always interview movie stars and look after movies? or did just happen, if i may ask you? i had very peculiar interests as a child, and the things i wanted to do were quite odd. i wanted to be a telecommunications expert. i want to be an airline pilot and a psychotherapist. but i think it is best i ended up doing journalism for everyone's s sake. same as me, i wanted to be an astronaut, an army officer, a scientist and an economist. and itjust rolled into the amazingly intellectual actor that i have become.
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applause. you definitely made the right choice. let me ask you a bit about your early career. was there one role that you felt really defined you as an actor early on, and gave you recognition? when you start off, one of the main roles, at least during my time, it was to play a madman, play a guy who is a little crazy, and you always think as an actor, "that is the thing i'm going to do." you all want to bejoker from batman, you want to be jack nicholson from the shining, yeah, you want to be mr prem chopra, from a lot of the films, or gabbar singh at least. so there were these moments that you had. i was told that when i entered the film industry and met people here, i won't name the wonderful director, right down the road, but he called me once and made me sit down, and said very honestly, and i love him for that, i worked with him later
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and respect him a lot, he is a good friend even now, despite what he told me then! he looked at me and said, "the greatest asset you have as an actor is that you are ugly, "and i can put you in any role." that's not true. he didn't know better at the time, but there is no accounting for taste! he looked at me and said, "you are so different looking," i guess that's what he meant, it came out a little wrong, he said, "i can put you in any role, and that is the greatest asset you have." i did not think of myself as someone who could be a typical hindi movie star, so i somehow got in tune with, you know, i should play some bad guys, maybe then i will accepted. and because i was from theatre, to me, the difference between the protagonist is really, you are playing one of the main parts, so to say, and i lived by this belief, there are no small roles, only small actors. and genuinely so because of theatre, i did not want to be the hero, i didn't want to romance a girl, i didn't want to be doing the typical films. in terms of inspiration,
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were there particular actors that really made an impact on you when you were an up—and—coming actor yourself? lots of them. growing up i loved peter sellers, i lied michaelj fox a lot, and i think my acting is hugely... i was acting with the british theatre teacher, barryjohn, so i was hugely impacted by peter sellers and british actors, now gary oldman and everyone. from india i think mr rishi kapoor, mr amitabh bachchan, obviously. it's like, you know, mr bachchan is like a birthmark for actors. you have to have it, otherwise you can never really become an actor. i always learn what not to do, or what to do from those actors. i love actors, so these three or four people essentially, yes. you have been more than successful with your career, but in recent times, a couple of your films have not done so well. why do you think that is? is it to do with changes in the industry, or what are your
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thoughts about that, really? i have been doing this business for so long, and people get a little disturbed because you make all films with a lot of effort and happiness and goodness, but effort, goodness and happiness does not a good film make. you have to tell a good story. so with due respect to all the other people involved in the films that have not done well, i think we just made bad films, it is as simple as that. because in india, everyone knows how to play cricket, and how to make movies, so... laughter and applause. everybody. so they meet you, so they tell... sachin how to do a forward defensive stroke, and they tell me how to tell a story. but i really believe there is no one reason for a movie going wrong, except the fact that i truly believe i told the story badly. it is the only reason these films are a flop. and i have always said this, it is not with humility, it's with honesty —
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i am the employee of the audience, and if i cannot make my boss happy, i will be fired from the job. so a couple of times in the last two years, i have been fired from the job. they want to give me a chance again? i think so. i will come back and i will get my boss on my side. definitely. as an actor, do you think as you get older, you are being offered or doing more interesting roles than when you were younger? or are the roles getting less interesting? i would like to absolutely set the record straight for talking movies and bbc — i am not old. laughter. don't do, what is called, fake reporting. 0k. i apologise. it's all right. just be guarded next time. 0k. the second part is, no, i don't think so. i am very fortunate that when i started off, because of being unconventional,
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like, say, in yourtrade, wanting to do really different things, i think i did not get, or i don't get typecast for too long. sometimes, i make the choices according to what i personally feel like doing, like a comedy and i will do it. sometimes, like now i am really wanting to do a kickass action film. a good action film. you have done those in the past. i have done a couple of them, but i don't think i've made it to the alpha male category. so i really want to — my six—pack has failed, nothing that makes people feel like i am the macho guy, so that is one thing. deep voice, speak very little, walk into a room, shoot before you say hi. then you ride a motorbike, high—speed, hairflying, and dark glasses and chew gum. that's what i want. sounds very cool. let me ask you, some of your films have real staying power. there is one film, i can't say it in hindi but it is referred to as ddlj. dilwale dulhania le jayenge. you do it very nicely! it has been playing in a cinema here in mumbai for more
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than 20 years. why has it had such staying power, do you think? we did not think even for a bit it would be such a big hit, let alone a commercial success. we thought it would be a sweet film. because the film was released in the ‘90s, i think the liberalisation movement all around the world started, globalisation, india became liberal. i think there was people looking into india, and india looking outwards, and indians all around the world, which i always claim are the biggest asset to india, because there are so many of us, and we can always turn around the corner in new york or london or hungary and find an indian somewhere. they felt like attaching themselves to things back home. i think all those things came together. and in a certain sense, antiestablishment was over, people were not angsty, people were easy.
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and i have said all this because i have read it somewhere. laughter. honestly, that is the main part of it. the fact is, it was just sweet and nice to make the film. applause. it's great that it has such longevity. let me ask you this. few people can outdo you in terms of a fan following around the world. with your fans, do you actively enjoy engaging with them or does it ever feel like an obligation that you have to do? if i say that, it sounds like i am being humble. that's what people think sometimes, i am really humble, but i come from a place where entertainment is extremely important but engagement is even more. i think of myself as an engaging semi—actor, semi—star. and over the years, in the last 25 years, the fact that i became suddenly such a big star, which i never imagined, i can still not comprehend the magnitude of it.
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i cannot understand why me and not someone else better. i am still really shocked at the fact that people love me so much after so many years and even after disappointing very often and doing some good stuff also, for me, it is just very important to meet everybody. for me, meeting fans is the only opportunity where i feel i am somehow trying to say thank you or being grateful orjust being able to say, "i don't know why you like me, but thanks! and keep liking me!" it's that kind of a situation. i don't even like calling them fans, to be honest. i just love the people who love me so much, and i want to meet them because my line of work doesn't give me many opportunities. i am on a studio floor for mostly 12—14 hours a day. i just want to meet people and spend time with them. having said that, no pictures after this interview! laughter. just to clarify! i heard that you don't think
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you are a particularly good dancer, is that right? yes. it's hard to believe. you dance in an incredible way. i'm petrified when i have to do songs, in the films, and more often than not, i will be obviously co—partnered by some of the most amazing and beautiful and fantastically graceful ladies the indian film industry has ever produced. they're all such superb dancers, and i am such a nincompoop. i have four or five left feet. i am really pathetic. and i have to tell you, honestly, you don't believe it, because of course they save me, the choreographers and the directors and the actresses that i have worked with. i don't know if your assessment of your dancing is totally accurate, because i have seen some very impressive moves. there is one film i really like, dil se, with a sequence where you are dancing on top of a train, and that is an incredible bit of cinema. was that difficult to do? that was one of the funnest things to do, because when you are on top
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of a moving train, they are not going to give you steps like this. so they all just said, "just do what you can." and all i could do was this, so ijust did that. i want to show off a little. i'm the only person on the train who is not tied down to the train. everybody else is. it was dangerous then? i would like to now show off and say, "it was extremely dangerous." "only a few people in the world can do it, and the other one is not alive anymore." it was one of the most fun things, and that song and dance i can do anytime, because it only involves four steps. so how about, you start it, and i'll follow. no, no, no, no. there's no way i am doing that, i'm the most clumsiest person alive! come on, tom. no! no, you have to do it. can ijust do a very bad pun?
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these steps, any tom, dick, and harry can do. no, i can't! i'll do it for you. stand with me. ok, i'll stand with you. music. applause. oh, dear. i love that sequence in the movie.
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it is brilliant, isn't it? was it difficult to do? no, actually in three days we shot it. the director was very clear, he just wanted this energy. it was great fun. dealing with movies in general, i mean, contemporary movies, are there any particular favourites that you had, films that have been made recently that you have been impressed by? i think gully boy was nice. i like the story of a underdog, rising up and using his talent instead of falling prey to what the parents want and then coming out on top. and of course, to do it in true indian style. it has songs, it has dances, but it has a different kind of a setting, so it is not your typical hindi film and it still has a lot of the tropes used and arranged differently. i think that was good, and the performances, of course. that film has been put forward as india's submission for the oscars, hasn't it? yeah. one of the things that interests me
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in a way is the academy, the oscars institution is 90 years old but it has only been on five occasions that an indian film has got a nomination. do you think there is a bias towards indian cinema, that it doesn't get more recognition by organisations like the academy awards? sometimes, we choose a film which we think is the best indian entry, and more often than not it is, but perhaps it does not fall into the way oscar looks at cinema from the rest of the world. i hope that changes, but i think from the indian side, all the top filmmakers and associations should make an effort to understand what does oscar desire from india as a film that they would like to look up. i'm sure, between the thousands of films we make we will find seven or ten like those two. so that is the reason, i think, more than a bias. one of the things that i really like about indian cinema is how self—sufficient it is. it has its own industry, its own star system, and it really can get along without hollywood. i think hollywood only owns 10%
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of the indian market. do indians really care about what the rest of the world thinks about their cinema in a way, because it is so self—sufficient? i think if i was to look at it from an artistic point of view, every artist wants more and more recognition. so i think on that basis, yes, it matters to us indians and everyone. it makes us very proud if we can take our work around the world. having said that, the self—sufficiency that you talk about, i don't want to be the harbinger of doom, but it won't be for long if we are not able to move with the times in terms of changing the cinema for indian audience in india also. i think the younger generation has access to a lot more around the world and we need to somehow cater to the young ones of india more than the rest of the world. bollywood had its #metoo moment a year ago. did you see it coming in any way at all? it's been a conversation everywhere in the world. at least in the cinematic world and media world,
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it has made us a little more aware that now it may not happen so easily or with such flippancy or with such a men—dominated zone of acceptance that it happens. so i think that was a good thing, and i hope that sticks around. do you think there has been really significant change as a result of the #metoo movement? of course, i've not seen anything like that. but i think awareness has happened and it will make a big change, because people now are wary, people now are worried, and a little scared, that it should not be taken inaway... nobody takes it for granted anymore, let me end it at that. people see you ultimately as a performer. have you ever thought of directing at all? would that interest you? i would, but i would tell people if they are interested infilmmaking, ifind being a director, and an honest director, a very lonelyjob. i think it is the singular most
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lonelyjob anyone can do. here you are, kind of playing god. you are making a film, you are telling the actors how to act, choosing the dialogue, making the script, selling it to the audience, editing it in dark rooms, don't know when to say ok or not but go with your gut, and when the film comes out you are all alone in the success and failure of it. i think being a director is an extremely lonelyjob. if i become a director, it will get into a place where i will feel perhaps lonely and sad. right now, ifeel alone and happy, but i may become lonely and sad. i would love to direct an action film. i want to grow up and be christopher nolan, but i don't know if i have the gumption. you are an incredibly accomplished actor. what do you want your legacy to be in terms of what you pass on to younger generations? if i can pass on the culture of immense hard work with a lot of humour, and without trying to feel that you worked hard. if you can wear your success, as i always say, like a t—shirt,
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not like a tuxedo. if you can be easy about the fact that you got the opportunities to do well but they came about only because you worked hard, and that's it. there is nothing more important to your work than that, that you worked hard, enjoyed yourself, gave a few good laughs, and if it makes you a star, so be it. wear it on your sleeve, like a t—shirt. if it doesn't make you a star, at least you worked hard and enjoyed yourself. all right, look, shah rukh khan, thank you so much for doing this interview. it means a lot to me and talking movies. thank you for being so generous in your response. thank you for the coffee. shah rukh khan to india is equal to what water is to india, what air is to india. i have memorised each of his dialogues, each of his songs. i probably could do each of the steps that he does in all of his movies. he is very honest, very humble,
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and a guy who teaches the value of hard work. he has given me the inspiration to do something in life, become someone. in many ways, it's not just about acting, it's about the personality of that person. the way he can talk, the way he can make people want him, that is a very important part of him. you're very kind. thank you very much. hello, there. we have some windy weather on the way to tomorrow but before we get there, through the rest of the afternoon, still quite a bit of cloud around across england and wales but we are seeing some sunny spells, quite bright at the moment in london for example. our focus really is shifting towards what is going on in the north atla ntic what is going on in the north atlantic where we have an area of cloud that continue to develop. it is not one area of low pressure but two, and these will combine to make storm atiyah, the first named storm of the season to affect the british
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isles and it is to squeeze in the isobars on the southern flank of the load that will bring a swathe of strong went to ireland and then wales and western areas of england as we go through sunday night. it is going to be windy but ultimately today, not a bad kind of start to the weekend for many. cloudy weather for northern ireland, the child for the north west of england and wales but heavy rain continued to spread in and pushing north—eastwards in scotland. a wet afternoon here with strengthening wind as well. overnight, we will all see some of this rain, quite an active rather front and quite a squally one pushing rain and strong wind across the uk, followed by blustery showers as the main rain band clear through. on account of the brisk wind, it stays relatively mild overnight, temperatures between six and 10 celsius. tomorrow is going to be a windy day for all of us, outbreaks of rain clearing quickly in the south—east, followed by sunshine and blustery showers. the showers tending to merge together to give longer spells of rain in scotland and northern ireland, where it is
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going to turn quite a bit colder through the day, and then comes the zone of strong wind. we are looking at gusts reaching 80 mph around the coast of western ireland. then towards wales and south—west england, we could get gusts of 70 mph, perhaps a bit more which brings with it the risk of some disruptive weather. wind that strong can bring down tree branches. disruption quite likely for a few areas, and the severe gales working on sunday into monday. this is the weather chart for monday. atiyah continues to work out into europe and we get these very strong, cold northerly wind feeding and across the uk. despite the sunshine for many of us, it is going to feel really cold and there will be lots of showers across northern areas of scotland all day and they will be frequent as well around the eastern coast of england. coming on land, some sunshine and temperatures 6—10 on the thermometer but factor in the cold northerly wind and! but factor in the cold northerly wind and i think monday will feel really quite bitter for most of us. that is the latest weather. goodbye for now.
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this is bbc news. i'm shaun ley. the headlines at 2pm.... the online forum reddit says it believes leaked government documents detailing uk—us trade talks and posted on its site are linked to russia. the really big question is how did those leaks the really big question is how did those lea ks get the really big question is how did those leaks get there in the first place? how did they end up online, being amplified by what reddit says is part of a known foreign influence operation? in a rare move a chinese—american researcher convicted of spying in iran has been freed in an apparent prisoner exchange. conservationists warn that many species of fish are under threat because our oceans are running out of oxygen as global temperatures rise. warnings that a mega bushfire near sydney that's burning out of control could take weeks to put out. the billionaire businessman elon musk is cleared of defaming a british cave explorer after calling him "pedo


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