tv Talking Movies BBC News December 8, 2019 12:30am-1:01am GMT
oh, dear. welcome to bbc news. i'm maryam moshiri. our top stories: i love that sequence in the movie. donald trump has thanked iran for what he described as "very fair" it is brilliant, isn't it? negotiations which led to a rare was it difficult to do? the us and iran carry out exchange of prisoners a prisoner swap in a rare sign between the two countries. iran released an american phd no, actually in three of cooperation between student who'd been jailed for spying days we shot it. the two countries. a saudi man who shot dead three — a charge he denied. the director was very clear, people in florida on friday in return, the us freed he just wanted this energy. is reported to have posted online it was great fun. an iranian scientist. comments praising 0sama bin laden. dealing with movies in general, i mean, contemporary movies, are there any particular it's being reported that a saudi airforce trainee, favourites that you had, who shot dead three people films that have been made recently at a military base in florida that you have been impressed by? on friday, posted comments critical i think gully boy was nice. of us involvement in foreign wars just hours before the shootings. i like the story of a underdog, rising up and using his talent the british heavyweight boxer, anthony joshua, has regained instead of falling prey the titles he lost in a stunning to what the parents want and then coming out on top. hello, and welcome to bbc news. upset in new york six months ago. in a rematch in saudi arabia, and of course, to do it the united states and iran have carried out a rare exchange joshua won a unanimous points in true indian style. of prisoners, despite the tensions victory over the man between washington and tehran. who beat him injune — massoud soleimani, an iranian scientist, arrested over alleged the mexican—american, violation of trade sanctions, was freed by the us. it has songs, it has dances, he was swapped for an american andy ruizjunior. but it has a different kind academic, xiyue wang, of a setting, so it is not your typical hindi film and it still has a lot of the tropes used and arranged differently. i think that was good, and the performances, of course. that film has been put forward during the election campaign our as india's submission regional political correspondents for the oscars, hasn't it?
have been gauging yeah. opinions in their areas. one of the things that interests me bbc devon'sjenny kumah has been to the constituency of north devon in a way is the academy, the oscars institution is 90 years which was held by the liberal democrats until 2015, when it was won old but it has only been on five by the conservatives. now, the lib dems are occasions that an indian film has got a nomination. do you think there is a bias hoping to win it back. towards indian cinema, that it doesn't get more recognition by organisations like the academy awards? north devon. coastal, rural towns and villages. sometimes, we choose a film which we think is the best indian entry, and more often than not it is, but perhaps it does not fall there's a bit of everything into the way 0scar looks at cinema from the rest of the world. in this vast constituency. i hope that that changes, but i think from the indian side, on the coast is ilfracombe, all the top filmmakers and associations should make once a booming seaside town. an effort to understand what does but with the rise of cheap foreign travel, it's faced decades of social 0scar desire from india as a film and economic challenges. that they would like to look up. north devon has traditionally been a lib dem stronghold. they held the seat for more than 20 i'm sure, between the thousands of films we make we will find years before losing it to the conservatives in 2015. seven or ten like those two. so that is the reason, i think, more than a bias. but can they win the seat back one of the things that i really when a majority of people like about indian cinema is how here voted to leave? self—sufficient it is. it has its own industry, its own star system, among them, ben — a localfisherman and it really can get
who tells me he'll be voting along without hollywood. i think hollywood only owns 10% conservative. of the indian market. being a fisherman in ilfracombe, do indians really care we've lost a lot of fishing fleets around the country. about what the rest of the world thinks about their cinema in a way, and obviously, our quota system because it is so self—sufficient? being made by the eu, i think if i was to look at it how many hundreds of thousands of miles away from where the actual from an artistic point of view, fishing is coming on, every artist wants more and you just lose a lot of fish and more recognition. so i think on that basis, and a lot of knowledge yes, it matters to us indians and everyone. through quota systems. it makes us very proud if we can take our work around the world. moments from the harbour having said that, is the charity bell's place. the self—sufficiency that you talk about, i don't want to be some of the poorest communities the harbinger of doom, in england live in ilfracombe and here volunteers provide hot but it won't be for long if we are not able to move meals for those who need it. with the times in terms of changing the cinema for indian community worker keith has voted audience in india also. lib dem in the past. i think the younger generation has well, it's always been access to a lot more around a liberal democrat area. and i think, honestly, the world and we need to somehow they are more in tune with normal people. cater to the young ones of india more than the rest of the world. hospital charity worker gloria bollywood had its #metoo is worried about healthcare. moment a year ago. did you see it coming in any way at all? the local inpatient ward closed down five years ago and some people have it's been a conversation to travel up to 100 miles everywhere in the world.
at least in the cinematic world and media world, for certain treatments. it has made us a little more aware we need more nurses, more doctors, so that we can get a lot that now it may not happen so easily of our clinics back. a lot of our people or with such flippancy or with such a men—dominated zone need those services. of acceptance that it happens. a0 minutes away is david's farm near south molton. so i think that was a good thing, and i hope that sticks around. he backed remain, but he's do you think there has been really significant change as a result changed his mind on brexit — of the #metoo movement? even though it could of course, i've not seen have an impact on his business. anything like that. whether we can export eggs post—brexit. we won't know whether we can but i think awareness has happened export some of our milk. and it will make a big change, lamb exports might be difficult. because people now are wary, but we have got to work people now are worried, and a little scared, through it and i'm sure that, that it should not be taken with determination, inaway... we would be able to do that. nobody takes it for granted anymore, the lib dems made a comeback let me end it at that. in the local elections here earlier this year. people see you ultimately but whether they can turn the tide as a performer. have you ever and achieve parliamentary success thought of directing at all? will depend on what's on voters‘ would that interest you? minds this election. jenny kumah, bbc news, ilfracombe. i would, but i would tell people if they are interested infilmmaking, ifind being a director, and an honest
director, a very lonelyjob. i think it is the singular most lonelyjob anyone can do. and you can find a full list here you are, kind of playing god. of candidates for the north devon constituency at bbc.co.uk/election. you are making a film, you are telling the actors how to act, choosing the dialogue, making the script, selling it to the audience, editing it in dark rooms, don't know when to say ok or not but go with your gut, now on bbc news — and when the film comes out you are all alone in the success talking movies with tom brooke. and failure of it. i think being a director is an extremely lonelyjob. if i become a director, it will get into a place where i will feel perhaps lonely and sad. right now, ifeel alone and happy, but i may become lonely and sad. great to see you. i would love to direct i didn't know it was such a big an action film. thing, i thought i was just i want to grow up and be meeting you personally. christopher nolan, but i don't know oh, really? hello from mumbai. if i have the gumption. i'm tom brook. for a special 20th anniversary edition of talking movies, you are an incredibly i came to india to interview top accomplished actor. bollywood superstar shah rukh khan. what do you want your legacy to be we're here outside his home, in terms of what you pass where fans congregate at all hours of the day. on to younger generations? he is the king of bollywood, if i can pass on the culture followed by millions. of immense hard work with a lot he's my hero. of humour, and without trying i just simply love him. to feel that you worked hard. if you can wear your success,
how big a legend is shah rukh khan? as i always say, like a t—shirt, oh, i can't explain this. not like a tuxedo. it's beyond imagination. if you can be easy about the fact that you got the opportunities to do well but they came about only right now, i've got goosebumps. because you worked hard, so nice to see you. and that's it. there is nothing more important i greeted him as he arrived to your work than that, at a special mumbai event to mark that you worked hard, the 20th anniversary enjoy yourself, gave a few good of talking movies. laughs, and if it makes this 54—year—old megastar seemed delighted to be there. you a star, so be it. i have to confess i am biased wear it on your sleeve, when it comes to shah rukh khan — like a t—shirt. i am a fan myself, if it doesn't make you a star, and i have interviewed him at least you worked hard and enjoyed yourself. several times before. all right, look, shah rukh khan, thank you so much for doing this interview. it means a lot to me and talking movies. visiting bollywood this time, thank you for being so he was the one i wanted to talk generous in your response. to about the changes taking place thank you for the coffee. in the indian film industry, and ask him where he is headed next with his career. shah rukh khan to india is equal to what water is to india, what air is to india. shah rukh khan's first bollywood film was the action romance drama i have memorised each deewana in 1992. but he became known for playing of his dialogues, each of his songs. antiheroes, villainous characters — i probably could do each the first role of that ilk of the steps that he does in all of his movies.
he is very honest, very humble, and a guy who teaches the value of hard work. was in baazigar in 1993. he has given me the inspiration to do something in life, become someone. in many ways, it's not just about acting, it's yet it is for his work about the personality in a series of romantic films for which he is best known. of that person. the way he can talk, born a muslim and married to a hindu, he has become a unifying the way he can make people want him, figure in india, at a time that is a very important part of him. when there are few. you're very kind. and he has won 1a filmfare awards, thank you very much. the hindi film industry's equivalent of the oscars. 0ur invited audience, made up hello there. of loyal shah rukh khan fans, were eager to hear we have seen the rain sweeping in, the winds really picking up as well what he had to say. and, really, over the next few days, all right, now for the moment it is going to be quite a stormy everyone has been waiting for. we have a great guest spell of weather. some heavy rain but it is of honour here tonight, the strength of the winds who i am going to interview. that is going to have the biggest impact. let's have a big round of applause there are a number of met office warnings that you can see on our webpages. the main driver is this area of low pressure here, for shah rukh khan! that's forcing that weather front and that band of rain right the way across the country and then, behind that, well, we're seeing cheering and applause. skies clearing and we'll see you sit here. thank you very much. some showers returning,
and the winds may be on behalf of talking movies, a very big welcome, especially on the occasion of our 20th touching 60 miles per hour, anniversary, it really means a lot to have you here and to be able to talk to you. northern and western tell me, did you always scotland through the irish sea. keeping the temperatures up on the mild side, want to be an actor? come the end of the night. an really, for sunday, ok, so i, first i want to say thank it's gonig to be a mixture you tom for having me here this an really, for sunday, it's going to be a mixture evening, and ifully respect of sunshine and heavy showers. the wonderfulness of talking movies not too many showers perhaps for eastern parts of england, that you've created at the bbc, but i came here only to see you. more frequent in the west, and merging at times to give some honestly, i truly hold him longer spells of rain in northern ireland, western scotland singlehandedly responsible and the north—west of england. maybe a touch wintry for making indian movies, over the higher hills. and indian stars, men and women temperatures seven degrees, scotland, northern ireland. still 13 perhaps in east anglia alike, extremely important and the south—east of england. tempered somewhat by the strength of that strong and gusty wind, really picking up in ireland. in the western world. and we are going to find storm atiya really strengthening those winds during the evening and overnight, so thank you for having me over, pushing them into wales and thank you for such and the south—west, where here we're looking at gusts of a wonderful hello. 70 miles an hour, possibly even when you ask about, did i always a touch more than that, want to be an actor? together with some i don't know, it's like i want squally bursts of rain. moving into monday though, to know, did you always want to be things slowly calm down an anchor? from the west as this ridge did you want to always of high pressure moves in. interview movie stars
and look after movies? for most of the day or did just happen, the strongest of the winds if i may ask you? will be down those eastern coasts i had very peculiar interests of england and scotland. as a child, and the things i wanted together with a fair number to do were quite odd. of showers first thing. those become fewer. most places become dry. still going to be a windy day i wanted to be a telecommunications expert. but the wind will gradually lessen, i want to be an airline throughout the day. we'll see our first spots of rain pilot and a psychotherapist. perhaps arriving in northern ireland but i think it is best by the end of the afternoon. out of that, temperatures only five, i ended up doing journalism six degrees in eastern for everyone‘s s sake. scotland, north—east england. same as me, i wanted to be an astronaut, an army officer, 12 celsius in the south—west. a scientist and an economist. and itjust rolled into the so the winds easing slowly on monday amazingly intellectual actor that i have become. but then picking up again on monday night and into tuesday. applause. the next area of low pressure you definitely made the right choice. let me ask you a bit driving in quite a broad about your early career. band of rain, actually. was there one role that you felt really defined you as an actor early this is going to be quite heavy. we are all going to get some soaking on, and gave you recognition? rain on tuesday and those winds will be particularly squally on that second band of rain. when you start off, one of the main roles, still on the mild side. at least during my time, perhaps temperatures in most parts it was to play a madman, of the country remaining play a guy who is a little crazy, in double figures. and you always think as an actor, but behind that band of rain, there's a surge of colder air, "that is the thing i'm going to do." you all want to bejoker coming down across the uk, with some showers around from batman, you want to be the middle part of the week, jack nicholson from the shining, but there's more wet and windy
yeah, you want to be mr prem chopra, and mild weather waiting to come 00:09:02,260 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 in from the atlantic later on. from a lot of the films, or gabbar singh at least. so there were these moments that you had. i was told that when i entered the film industry and met people here, i won't name the wonderful director, right down the road, but he called me once and made me sit down, and said very honestly, and i love him for that, i worked with him later and respect him o lot, he is a good friend even now, despite what he told me then! he looked at me and said, "the greatest asset you have as an actor is that you are ugly, and i can put you in any role." that's not true. he didn't know better at the time, but there is no accounting for taste! he looked at me and said, "you are so different looking," i guess that's what he meant, it came out a little wrong, he said, "i can put you in any role, and that is the greatest asset you have." i did not think of myself as someone who could be a typical hindi movie star, so i somehow got in tune with, you know,
i should play some bad guys, maybe then i will accepted. and because i was from theatre, to me, the difference between the protagonists is really, you are playing one of the main parts, so to say, and i lived by this belief, there are no small roles, only small actors. and genuinely so because of theatre, i did not want to be the hero, i didn't want to romance a girl, i didn't want to be doing the typical films. in terms of inspiration, were there particular actors that really made an impact on you when you were an up—and—coming actor yourself? lots of them. growing up i loved peter sellers, i lied michaelj fox a lot, and i think my acting is hugely... i was acting with the british theatre teacher, barryjohn, so i was hugely impacted by peter sellers and british actors, now gary 0ldman and everyone. from india i think mr rishi kapoor, mr amitabh bachchan, obviously.
it's like, you know, mr bachchan is like a birthmark for actors. you have to have it, otherwise you can never really become an actor. i always learn what not to do, or what to do from those actors. i love actors, so these three or four people essentially, yes. you have been more than successful with your career, but in recent times, a couple of your films have not done so well. why do you think that is? is it to do with changes in the industry, or what are your thoughts about that, really? i have been doing this business for so long, and people get a little disturbed because you make all films with a lot of effort and happiness and goodness, but effort, goodness and happiness does not a good film make. you have to tell a good story. so with due respect to all the other people involved in the films that have not done well, i think we just made bad films,
it is as simple as that. because in india, everyone knows how to play cricket, and how to make movies, so... laughter and applause. everybody. so they meet you, so they tell sachin how to do a forward defensive stroke, and they tell me how to tell a story. but i really believe there is no one reason for a movie going wrong, except the fact that i truly believe i told the story badly. it is the only reason these films are a flop. and i have always said this, it is not with humility, it's with honesty — i am the employee of the audience, and if i cannot make my boss happy, i will be fired from the job. so a couple of times in the last two years, i have been fired from the job. they want to give me a chance again? i think so. i will come back and i will get my boss on my side. definitely. as an actor, do you think as you get older, you are being offered or doing more interesting roles than when you were younger? or are the roles getting less interesting? i would like to absolutely set the record straight for talking movies and bbc — i am not old. laughter.
don't do, what is called, fake reporting. 0k. i apologise. it's all right. just be guarded next time. 0k. the second part is, no, i don't think so. i am very fortunate that when i started off, because of being unconventional, like, say, in yourtrade, wanting to do really different things, i think i did not get, or i don't get typecast for too long. sometimes, i make the choices according to what i personally feel like doing, like a comedy and i will do it. sometimes, like now i am really wanting to do a kickass action film. a good action film. you have done those in the past. i have done a couple of them, but i don't think i've made it to the alpha male category. so i really want to — my six—pack has failed, nothing that makes people feel like i am the macho guy, so that is one thing. deep voice, speak very little, walk into a room, shoot before you say hi.
then you ride a motorbike, high—speed, hairflying, and dark glasses and chew gum. that's what i want. sounds very cool. let me ask you, some of your films have real staying power. there is one film, i can't say it in hindi but it is referred to as ddlj. dilwale dulhania le jayenge. you do it very nicely! it has been playing in a cinema here in mumbai for more than 20 years. why has it had such staying power, do you think? we did not think even for a bit it would be such a big hit, let alone a commercial success. we thought it would be a sweet film. because the film was released in the ‘90s, i think the liberalisation movement all around the world started, globalisation, india became liberal.
i think there was people looking into india, and india looking outwards, and indians all around the world, which i always claim are the biggest asset to india, because there are so many of us, and we can always turn around the corner in new york or london or hungary and find an indian somewhere. they felt like attaching themselves to things back home. i think all those things came together. and in a certain sense, antiestablishment was over, people were not angsty, people were easy. and i have said all this because i have read it somewhere. laughter. honestly, that is the main part of it. the fact is, it was just sweet and nice to make the film. applause. it's great that it has such longevity. let me ask you this. few people can outdo you in terms of a fan following around the world. with your fans, do you actively enjoy engaging with them or does it ever feel like an obligation that you have to do? if i say that, it sounds like i am being humble. that's what people think sometimes,
i am really humble, but i come from a place where entertainment is extremely important but engagement is even more. i think of myself as an engaging semi actor, semi—star. and over the years, in the last 25 years, the fact that i became suddenly such a big star, which i never imagined, i can still not comprehend the magnitude of it. i cannot understand why me and not someone else better. i am still really shocked at the fact that people love me so much after so many years and even after disappointing very often and doing some good stuff also, for me, it is just very important to meet everybody. for me, meeting fans is the only opportunity where i feel i am somehow trying to say thank you or being grateful orjust being able to say, "i don't know why you like me, but thanks! and keep liking me!" it's that kind of a situation. i don't even like calling
them fans, to be honest. i just love the people who love me so much, and i want to meet them because my line of work doesn't give me many opportunities. i am on a studio floor for mostly 12—14 hours a day. i just want to meet people and spend time with them. having said that, no pictures after this interview! laughter. just to clarify! i heard that you don't think you are a particularly good dancer, is that right? yes. it's hard to believe. you dance in an incredible way. i'm petrified when i have to do songs, in the films, and more often than not, i will be obviously co—partnered by some of the most amazing and beautiful and fantastically graceful ladies the indian film industry has ever produced. they're all such superb dancers, and i am such a nincompoop. i have four or five left feet. i am really pathetic. and i have to tell you, honestly, you don't believe it,
because of course they save me, the choreographers and the directors and the actresses that i have worked with. i don't know if your assessment of your dancing is totally accurate, because i have seen some very impressive moves. there is one film i really like, dil se, with a sequence where you are dancing on top of a train, and that is an incredible bit of cinema. was that difficult to do? that was one of the funnest things to do, because when you are on top of a moving train, they are not going to give you steps like this. so they all just said, "just do what you can." and all i could do was this, so ijust did that. i want to show off a little. i'm the only person on the train who is not tied down to the train. everybody else is. it was dangerous then? i would like to now show off and say, "it was extremely dangerous."
"only a few people in the world can do it, and the other one is not alive anymore." it was one of the most fun things, and that song and dance i can do anytime, because it only involves four steps. so how about, you start it, and i'll follow. no, no, no, no. there's no way i am doing that, i'm the most clumsiest person alive! come on, tom. no! no, you have to do it. can ijust do a very bad pun? these steps, any tom, dick, and harry can do. no, i can't! i'll do it for you. stand with me. ok, i'll stand with you. applause. 00:19:38,633 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 music.