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tv   The Papers  BBC News  December 5, 2020 11:30pm-11:46pm GMT

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on sunday after a phone call between boris johnson and the president of the european commission — but both sides say significant differences still remain. whilst recognising the seriousness of these differences, we agreed that a further effort should be undertaken by our negotiating teams to assess whether they can be resolved. and more rapid testing is introduced in areas in the highest tiers of restrictions in england — but there are concerns about their accuracy. hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are the broadcaster lucy beresford and joe twyman, the co—founder and director of deltapoll.
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tomorrow's front pages starting with the queen will get the covid—19 vaccine within weeks to encourage people to do the same — says the mail in an exclusive. the mirror front page carries images of celebrities who have declared that they will too "give the jab a stab" — in an attempt to ease public concerns care home residents have been told they have to travel by bus to hospital hubs to receive covid vaccinations, says the people. and the observer reports that military planes will be used to transport the pfizer vaccine from belgium to the uk, in a bid to avoid brexit delays at ports. while the telegraph says borisjohnson is giving the trade deal "one final throw of the dice", by sending his brexit negotiator to brussels for "intensive talks". and the times says if there is no progress — mrjohnson‘s cabinet are prepared to back him on a no—deal brexit — adding that the pm intends to place
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the blame squarley on the eu. so let's begin... lucy, joe, welcome back. thanks once again forjoining us. let's start first of all by talking, not about brexit, but about the queen. you know, this is an exclusive by the daily mail, but finally enough, it's also on the times. the daily mail, the times, both of them carrying this story. the queen will get the vaccine in weeks. so, she will get the vaccine, in a way, it's a private decision, but it's to encourage and will hopefully encourage and will hopefully encourage more people to take up the vaccine. will it work, do you think, will more people take it because she has? well, well, i think because she is one of the few public figures where a large number of people will look at that, i mean, she's 94, her husband is 99, and if they are going to sign up for something like this,
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then i think it's probably well have a positive impact. you know, we are very imitative creatures, we learn how to function ina row creatures, we learn how to function in a row by copying other people. it's the whole basis of selling and marketing and advertising, and the government needs to get the nation behind their mission to vaccinate as many people as possible. so if you've got the figure of urination saying, yep, i'm going to sign up for it. also, i think it was in one of those papers, they also mentioned that prince charles and prince william are also signing up for ways in which they can be supportive, because, of course those two gentle men have had covid. i think it could bea men have had covid. i think it could be a really positive sign if you think that someone like that would come in away, break rank. normally, we don't find out what you think personally about anything or what she does privately, but it has come to light that she will let it be known once she's have the vaccine. i think that will be a tremendous
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boost to the government's campaign separate joe, the front page boost to the government's campaign separatejoe, the front page of boost to the government's campaign separate joe, the front page of the sunday times carries the same story. it also carries a little bit of detail, which is quite a history lesson for all of us. in 1957, purely come amid widespread anxiety but the potential side effect of the new polio vaccine, the queen then broke protocol to let it be known that prince charles and princess and, eightand that prince charles and princess and, eight and six years old at the time, had been inoculated. so it seemed to work on committees public concern. millions went on to have the vaccine. will she have the same kind of cloak today? well, there are very few people in britain that, and the kind of respect across the political spectrum that the queen does. david attenborough is another person that i imagine if you were to get vaccinated, as i'm sure he will, then that will be good news as well, but it's not really about individuals. even individuals as important as the queen. it's about the collective number of these people all putting themselves forward. and i think it is good that the queen is letting it be known that she will be vaccinated.
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i actually think that we could go further in this country. in the united states can for instance, president obama, president bush and president obama, president bush and president clinton have all committed to take the vaccine on television as a commitment of their shown of strength of this vaccine. the queen has her christmas speech coming up. why not be vaccinated on television on christmas day? i think that would really have huge impacts, but perhaps more seriously, i would like to see the royal family go further. have, for instance, charlotte, princess charlotte, prince george, princess charlotte, prince george, prince louis, have they had the mmr vaccine? has prince louis, have they had the mmr vaccine ? has little prince louis, have they had the mmr vaccine? has little archie, the offspring of megan and terry, have they had the mmr vaccine? has —— megan and harry. has —— these are all opportunities for the royal family to really take a stand when it comes to public health issues of such importance. and i think this is a step in the right direction, but it's one of a number of steps that needs to be made, and in turn, only a part of a wider campaign that
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needs to happen to convince the one in six people who say they are unlikely to take the vaccine that it's a good idea, because the more people that take gets, the more effective it will be, the sooner this country can get back to normal stop by to think i'd rather watch you standards and strictly on christmas day them are some get a vaccine. quite. lucy, those sunday mirror also, ijust vaccine. quite. lucy, those sunday mirror also, i just want to show the front page, because again, it's the same threats, instant? these are loads of famous stars, michael palin, michael parkinson, all of a certain age permit has to be said, that are advocating the cloak of 19 vaccine. what does it say about our society that we need these celebrities, the royal family, society that we need these celebrities, the royalfamily, we need these people to come out and tell us, you know take the vaccine, what does that say about us? because in other countries, people are action more likely to think i'm 0k, you know, the government is helping us, let's take the vaccine them it's for the greater good. know, in other
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countries they have had pop stars in korea, japan, the philippines, they have had public health campaigns throughout the pandemic led by celebrities. as i said before, it's not just a celebrities. as i said before, it's notjust a unique uk phenomenon. it's a human instinct that we tend to gravitate towards news and information that is given to us by people that we trust, by reliable sources. it's why word—of—mouth is such a holy grail for the advertiser. my big? is whether this constellation of celebrities is going to cut through. i think some of my game in homes, he does daytime tv, probably will have that cut through for a lot of people of that particular generation who watch him every day. if he doesn't, people will think i'm that's great. at some of those other names on that list, as much as i love comedy timing of maury litman come i don't know whether that will inspire a lot of
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people of her generation to go through with it. what i'm dying to know is which celebrities have they chosen for my generation or for the younger generation, because it's that same selling motif. you've actually got to encourage people to do it all stop unfortunately, there is still vaccine hesitancy in this country, again, we are not alone in that. but we have a prolific social media campaign with people who want to get anti—vax messaging there. and there have been talks and demos in there have been talks and demos in the centre of town, but ultimately, we wa nt the centre of town, but ultimately, we want to try and get as many people on board, because obviously, it's for the greater good. the quicker we get some of the most number of people vaccinated, the sooner we go number of people vaccinated, the sooner we go back to normal. talking about people getting vaccinated quickly, the observer front page carrying this story, military planes to fly vaccines in to avoid ports hit by brexit. still looking out the
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story, convergence of two strays, brexit and covid, all coming together in a tale of how are we going to get this vaccine in this country? —— two stories. if on the first of gender we have issues getting across the border from belgium. up until now, a lot of attention has been placed on the idea of a vaccine being available as such an important part of the solution for covid, but actually, that'sjust the beginning. it's all very well having it available eyes and having been invented, but the logistical problems of actually making it available to the general public and enough numbers and then having the general public take it in sufficient numbers —— in sufficient numbers are really the huge tasks ahead of the government. in the first of these is actually making it available to the general public. this is a vaccine that in some cases needs to be stored at —80 degrees stop now, that's not the kind of facility that can be just sprung up at the end of the street on street corners of another country. instead, it's more likely to be in
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centralised locations, people will have to travel to. indeed, we need to boost the uptake, particularly among younger people. now, the numberof among younger people. now, the number of celebrities that we are seeing announced today i'm sure is the first stage can adjust as ensure this is one part of the campaign. a lot of our research has shown that actually, it's rules around socialisation but particularly around travelling that could have an impact if for instance people are told that they cannot travel abroad unless they've been vaccinated. if they've been told they can't travel to certain areas of this country unless they've been vaccinated. those are the kinds of impacts that will have bring about a change in attitude toward vaccine. and it has to be available. the government is considering all possible options in which military transport isjust one. let's move on now. we will stay with the observer, but moving onto another story. appalled by the observer itself, and it's about loneliness. people feeling alone and how that has become worse because of
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the covid—i9 pandemic and how it's impacted people's lives. lucy, some really, you know, i mean, some of the stats here showing that the number of overall number of people expecting to spend christmas on their own has gone up from 4% in a normal year to 8% this year. i mean, loneliness is a big issue, isn't it? it's a health issue, isn't it, as well. yes, we have at a perfect storm with the pandemic number that it has actually exacerbated people who have been on their own. it has really exacerbated people's feelings of alienation. we are very social creatures. we come into this world physically attached to another human being, and we never really lose that longing and that's capacity for pleasure that can be got out of being with other people. so the idea as this research shows that notjust have the numbers doubled, the percentage numbers across the board, but when it comes to the over 65
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fives, that that figure increases to 1496 fives, that that figure increases to 14% of fives, that that figure increases to i4% of over 60 fives will be spending christmas alone. that equates to 1.7 million people. that will not be sharing their christmas with loved ones. it actually really, it's almost like a knife to the heart because this is not how we wa nt to heart because this is not how we want to be living. this is not what the christmas message is all about. yet because of the restrictions, people are being... they feel very left behind, and certainly in some of the clinical work that i've done where we have seen a massive spike in mental health conditions, this points to the fact that so many people have not been able to have that boost to their well—being that comes from normal everyday interaction with other human beings. it doesn't have to be a big full—blown thing, but chatting to some neighbour in the street or a quick conversation with a stranger
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in public transports, that's what we used to do, and it's just reinforcing that message that to any people are being left behind in this pandemic in terms of mental health. moving onto the sunday times. this is the big story of today, the potential deal or no—deal between the uk and eu. the front page of the sunday times says, the cabinet backs johnson over a no—deal brexit. joe, support for the pm and final throw of the dice talks. things are really very much going down to the wire on this. yes, the news today has been dominated by the stories of the brexit negotiations, and the three issues that still remain, governance , issues that still remain, governance, fishing and a level playing field for business. michel barnier, the eu's chief negotiator set these out as the areas where there at the moment irreconcilable differences. i think what we are seeing in the newspapers tomorrow
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morning is an attempt to really make it clear that the british government is positioning itself to be open to all possible options while at the same time fighting as hard as it possibly can. that's the message that it's very keen to put across to the british people, because it is in nobody's interest for this whole process to seem anything other than extremely difficult. that's true for the british government, that's true for the eu as well. everyone wants to be seen to be fighting for every inch, fighting tooth and nail until the deadline. and so there is talk about the fact that this is the last of the dice. well, that's one interpretation, but i think it's more likely that the meeting of eu letters on thursday could be delayed, or there could be an emergency meeting called. —— eu leaders. perhaps before the deadline on the 315t of december. and i imagine over the next few days and weeks, we will continue to see this situation evolve. the difficulty, of course, is that the public remains very divided on the issue. there is
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no one outcome that gets anything like the majority support in the eyes of the public. so whatever the outcome of this process, it's likely that the government generally and borisjohnson that the government generally and boris johnson specifically will have a real task on their hands when it comes to selling it to the whole of the general public, notjust their own cabinet or his own supporters. 0k, own cabinet or his own supporters. ok, andjust own cabinet or his own supporters. ok, and just very briefly, lucy, do you think we will have a deal over the next week? i think it is increasingly unlikely. this time last week, i think the uk government where really positive, but because president macron's intervention about the detail, i think u nfortu nately about the detail, i think unfortunately that is receding. the cabinet is saying they are going to back boris in a no—deal, even those cabinet ministers —— cabinet members who voted to remain. 0k, lucy, joe commit really has been an absolute pleasure to talk to both. thank you very much indeed for giving us your thoughts and insight.


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