less the n less than 36 hours before the polls openin less than 36 hours before the polls open in northern ireland's assembly election. the leaders of the five parties face questions from the studio audience here in belfast. welcome. applause good evening. 90 seats at stormont are up for

good evening. 90 seats at stormont are upfor grabs good evening. 90 seats at stormont are up for grabs and the leaders of the parties expected to take the lion's share of those seats are with us tonight. it's an election that could have profound implications for politics in northern ireland across the uk. a big welcome to all of our of and the bbc news channel. 0ur politicians will face questions made up politicians will face questions made up of our audience, grassroots, party supporters and undecided voters. not quite yet at pre—co. that capacity, but it's great to have an audience here, and if you have an audience here, and if you have an audience here, and if you have a stake in this election, i hope tonight's debate can help you make your choice on thursday. the leaders with us tonight are sir geoffrey donaldson, less than a year into the top job with the democratic unionist party. —— jeffery. into the top job with the democratic unionist party. ——jeffery. with he keep the seat or will that shift to sinn fein, the per irish unity party represented tonight by michelle o'neill. represented tonight by michelle 0'neill. the northern ireland system asks parties to designate unionist

nationalist are out there, alliances and the other category and its leader, naomi long, has seen a party do well in opinion polls, how will that translate into votes and seats? the leader of the nationalists social, column eastwood, improving his position. —— or two. also doug beatty who has been reshaping his parties message and is less than a year into the leadership role. —— earth day. ladies and gentlemen, your panel for this evening. —— beattie. now, if you want to join the discussion on social media, it is #bbcnidebate. it comes tonight, our first question is from coleraine and works in hospitality. imilli first question is from coleraine and works in hospitality.— works in hospitality. will allow the oliticians works in hospitality. will allow the politicians come _ works in hospitality. will allow the politicians come out _ works in hospitality. will allow the politicians come out right - works in hospitality. will allow the politicians come out right now- works in hospitality. will allow the | politicians come out right now that if they— politicians come out right now that if they were — politicians come out right now that if they were elected, _ politicians come out right now that if they were elected, they -

politicians come out right now that if they were elected, they would i if they were elected, they would form _ if they were elected, they would form up — if they were elected, they would form up on _ if they were elected, they would form up on day— if they were elected, they would form up on day one _ if they were elected, they would form up on day one and - if they were elected, they would form up on day one and form . if they were elected, they would form up on day one and form ani form up on day one and form an executive? _ form up on day one and form an executive?— form up on day one and form an executive? ' , ., executive? jeffrey donaldson, will ou show executive? jeffrey donaldson, will you show up _ executive? jeffrey donaldson, will you show up for— executive? jeffrey donaldson, will you show up for work, _ executive? jeffrey donaldson, will you show up for work, and - executive? jeffrey donaldson, will you show up for work, and if- executive? jeffrey donaldson, will you show up for work, and if not, | you show up for work, and if not, will you refuse your pay? i’zfe you show up for work, and if not, will you refuse your pay? i've never shared a days _ will you refuse your pay? i've never shared a days work _ will you refuse your pay? i've never shared a days work and _ will you refuse your pay? i've never shared a days work and all- will you refuse your pay? i've never shared a days work and all of - shared a days work and all of my political career, will be there on day one to meet the other parties to discuss or begin discussions about the programme for government about setting a three year budgets, but i am also clear and being honest with the electorate. we believe that the political institutions must be sustainable, and that means we have got to deal with the big issues that are in front of us and not least the harm that the northern ireland protocol is doing to undermine political stability in northern ireland to undermine economic stability. it changes our constitutional status and we cannot ignore that. we are going to have a sustainable executive and it must be one that has cross community supports where consensus the way that we move forward and there isn't unionist support for the protocol, so this issue needs to be dealt

with. 50 so this issue needs to be dealt with, y., ., so this issue needs to be dealt with. ,, ., ., ., with. so you are saying... you are saying that _ with. so you are saying... you are saying that issue _ with. so you are saying... you are saying that issue needs _ with. so you are saying... you are saying that issue needs to - with. so you are saying... you are saying that issue needs to be - saying that issue needs to be dealt with and therefore you are not taking, you are not forming an executive, but you will still take your pay. what personally, you are an mp coming haven't resigned your westminster seat, who will be paying you, willoughby westminster or stormont? can you guarantee the audience here tonight that you will be taking your seat at stormont? i wouldn't be standing as a candidate leading my pride into this election if it wasn't my intention to leave my party into the assembly. xyour my party into the assembly. your intention doesn't _ my party into the assembly. your intention doesn't sound - my party into the assembly. your intention doesn't sound like a guarantee that you will take your seat. ~' ,, guarantee that you will take your seat. ~ i. ., �* ., ~ seat. unlock you, i don't take the electorate — seat. unlock you, i don't take the electorate for _ seat. unlock you, i don't take the electorate for granted. _ seat. unlock you, i don't take the electorate for granted. i - seat. unlock you, i don't take the electorate for granted. i will- seat. unlock you, i don't take the electorate for granted. i will fighti electorate for granted. i will fight for every vote. ii electorate for granted. i will fight for every vote-— electorate for granted. i will fight for every vote. if you win your seat at the assembly, _ for every vote. if you win your seat at the assembly, will— for every vote. if you win your seat at the assembly, will you - for every vote. if you win your seat at the assembly, will you take - for every vote. if you win your seat at the assembly, will you take that seed? {lit at the assembly, will you take that seed? . ., , at the assembly, will you take that seed? u, , �* at the assembly, will you take that seed? , �* at the assembly, will you take that seed? _, , �* _, ., seed? of course. i'm committed to leadin: seed? of course. i'm committed to leading the — seed? of course. i'm committed to leading the dop _ seed? of course. i'm committed to leading the dop into _ seed? of course. i'm committed to leading the dop into an _ seed? of course. i'm committed to leading the dop into an executive, | leading the dop into an executive, but we must deal with the issues that are in front of us. we must deal with the protocol. we have got to get political stability back in northern ireland and we have to have an executive form on the basis it

can, and cross community support, and right now, there is not unionist support for the protocol. it is harming our politics in northern ireland, it is undermining our economy. ireland, it is undermining our economy-— ireland, it is undermining our econom. ., , ., economy. let's stick to the question here. economy. let's stick to the question here- naomi. _ economy. let's stick to the question here. naomi, will— economy. let's stick to the question here. naomi, will you _ economy. let's stick to the question here. naomi, will you be _ economy. let's stick to the question here. naomi, will you be turning - economy. let's stick to the question here. naomi, will you be turning up| here. naomi, will you be turning up to form an executive and if not, will you be taking your pay? i ififiiiii will you be taking your pay? i will be there on _ will you be taking your pay? i will be there on day _ will you be taking your pay? i will be there on day one _ will you be taking your pay? i will be there on day one to _ will you be taking your pay? i will be there on day one to enter the electorate — be there on day one to enter the electorate that they give me the mandate — electorate that they give me the mandate to do so. i think it would be obscene — mandate to do so. i think it would be obscene at a time when the real issues _ be obscene at a time when the real issues that— issues that are facing people are at the cost of living crisis and the pressure — the cost of living crisis and the pressure signs we have around climate — pressure signs we have around climate change and all of the other things— climate change and all of the other things that face us. if we were to continue — things that face us. if we were to continue to— things that face us. if we were to continue to take salaries during the period _ continue to take salaries during the period when we were not doing our 'obs period when we were not doing our jobs corne — period when we were not doing our jobs come i— period when we were not doing our jobs come i think it's really important that those of us who are willing _ important that those of us who are willing to _ important that those of us who are willing to turn up and willing to -et willing to turn up and willing to get on — willing to turn up and willing to get on with the job are able to do that and — get on with the job are able to do that and they paid for that job. we should _ that and they paid for that job. we should not— that and they paid for that job. we should not be locked out as we have been for _ should not be locked out as we have been for long periods, and that is why we _ been for long periods, and that is why we went to see reform of the institutions so we can actually have

stabie _ institutions so we can actually have stable government care. there are lots of _ stable government care. there are lots of issues that need to be dealt with, _ lots of issues that need to be dealt with. irut— lots of issues that need to be dealt with. but i— lots of issues that need to be dealt with, but i don't want the embarrassment of being an assembly member— embarrassment of being an assembly member and suspension while people are struggling to heat their homes and feed _ are struggling to heat their homes and feed their families and i am being— and feed their families and i am being paid for less than the full 'ob being paid for less than the full oh i being paid for less than the full job i was— being paid for less than the full job i was elected to do. you have been so far— job i was elected to do. you have been so far as _ job i was elected to do. you have been so far as far— job i was elected to do. you have been so far as far as _ job i was elected to do. you have been so far as far as i _ job i was elected to do. you have been so far as far as i know - been so far as far as i know committed to definitely being part of that executive. will you be joining in opposition? what do you say to that question about taking pay if there isn't a functioning government? i pay if there isn't a functioning government?— pay if there isn't a functioning government? i think he raises a fundamental _ government? i think he raises a fundamental question _ government? i think he raises a fundamental question that - government? i think he raises a fundamental question that we l government? i think he raises a l fundamental question that we all have to _ fundamental question that we all have to answer, _ fundamental question that we all have to answer, that _ fundamental question that we all have to answer, that we - fundamental question that we all have to answer, that we will- fundamental question that we all have to answer, that we will all. have to answer, that we will all turn _ have to answer, that we will all turn up — have to answer, that we will all turn up on _ have to answer, that we will all turn up on monday— have to answer, that we will all turn up on monday morning - have to answer, that we will all| turn up on monday morning and have to answer, that we will all- turn up on monday morning and look to go— turn up on monday morning and look to go into _ turn up on monday morning and look to go into the — turn up on monday morning and look to go into the executive _ turn up on monday morning and look to go into the executive if— turn up on monday morning and look to go into the executive if we have i to go into the executive if we have enough _ to go into the executive if we have enough states _ to go into the executive if we have enough states to _ to go into the executive if we have enough states to go _ to go into the executive if we have enough states to go into _ enough states to go into that executive _ enough states to go into that executive. what's _ enough states to go into that executive. what's importantl enough states to go into that. executive. what's important for enough states to go into that - executive. what's important for us this is— executive. what's important for us this is where — executive. what's important for us this is where is _ executive. what's important for us this is where is that _ executive. what's important for us this is where is that executive - this is where is that executive taking — this is where is that executive taking is? 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if we _ will they be in five years or ten years time? if we are - will they be in five years or ten years time? if we are being. will they be in five years or ten i years time? if we are being asked will they be in five years or ten - years time? if we are being asked to 'ump years time? if we are being asked to jump into— years time? if we are being asked to jump into an— years time? if we are being asked to jump into an executive _ years time? if we are being asked to jump into an executive before - years time? if we are being asked to jump into an executive before we - jump into an executive before we even _ jump into an executive before we even know — jump into an executive before we even know the _ jump into an executive before we even know the direction - jump into an executive before we even know the direction of- jump into an executive before we | even know the direction of travel, then— even know the direction of travel, then we _ even know the direction of travel, then we all— even know the direction of travel, then we all go _ even know the direction of travel, then we all go into _ even know the direction of travel, then we all go into something - even know the direction of travel, i then we all go into something that could _ then we all go into something that could give us— then we all go into something that could give us the _ then we all go into something that could give us the same _ then we all go into something that could give us the same as - then we all go into something thatj could give us the same as what we have _ could give us the same as what we have had _ could give us the same as what we have had for— could give us the same as what we have had for the _ could give us the same as what we have had for the last _ could give us the same as what we have had for the last five - could give us the same as what we have had for the last five years, i

have had for the last five years, state _ have had for the last five years, stale government, _ have had for the last five years, stale government, so— have had for the last five years, stale government, so we - have had for the last five years, | stale government, so we always advocated — stale government, so we always advocated for— stale government, so we always advocated for quick— stale government, so we alwaysl advocated for quick organisation, stale government, so we always - advocated for quick organisation, we have really— advocated for quick organisation, we have really deep _ advocated for quick organisation, we have really deep discussions - advocated for quick organisation, we have really deep discussions about l advocated for quick organisation, we have really deep discussions about a j have really deep discussions about a programme — have really deep discussions about a programme for — have really deep discussions about a programme for government, - have really deep discussions about a programme for government, get- have really deep discussions about a i programme for government, get that programme _ programme for government, get that programme agreed. _ programme for government, get that programme agreed, before _ programme for government, get that programme agreed, before we - programme for government, get that programme agreed, before we have i programme agreed, before we have ministers. _ programme agreed, before we have ministers. and — programme agreed, before we have ministers, and then— programme agreed, before we have ministers, and then we _ programme agreed, before we have ministers, and then we can - programme agreed, before we have ministers, and then we can an- ministers, and then we can an executive _ ministers, and then we can an executive-— ministers, and then we can an executive. , ., . executive. the procedure from which ministerial procedures. _ executive. the procedure from which ministerial procedures. it's - executive. the procedure from which ministerial procedures. it's an - ministerial procedures. it's an important _ ministerial procedures. it's an important point, _ ministerial procedures. it's an important point, because - ministerial procedures. it's an | important point, because right ministerial procedures. it's an - important point, because right now we rush— important point, because right now we rush into — important point, because right now we rush into nominating _ important point, because right now we rush into nominating who - important point, because right now we rush into nominating who will. important point, because right nowi we rush into nominating who will be the minister— we rush into nominating who will be the minister for— we rush into nominating who will be the minister for health, _ we rush into nominating who will be the minister for health, the - the minister for health, the minister— the minister for health, the minister for— the minister for health, the minister for infrastructure, | the minister for health, the - minister for infrastructure, who will be — minister for infrastructure, who will be an — minister for infrastructure, who will be an education? _ minister for infrastructure, who will be an education? they - minister for infrastructure, who will be an education? they go i minister for infrastructure, whoi will be an education? they go in there _ will be an education? they go in there and — will be an education? they go in there and they _ will be an education? they go in there and they go _ will be an education? they go in there and they go into _ will be an education? they go in there and they go into a - will be an education? they go in there and they go into a silo - there and they go into a silo mentaiity~ _ there and they go into a silo mentality. but— there and they go into a silo mentality. but if— there and they go into a silo mentality. but if you - there and they go into a silo mentality. but if you agree. there and they go into a silo . mentality. but if you agree that programme _ mentality. but if you agree that programme for _ mentality. but if you agree that programme for government - mentality. but if you agree that i programme for government first, mentality. but if you agree that - programme for government first, its outcomes. _ programme for government first, its outcomes. what— programme for government first, its outcomes, what the _ programme for government first, its outcomes, what the budget - programme for government first, its outcomes, what the budget is - programme for government first, its outcomes, what the budget is going| outcomes, what the budget is going to be. _ outcomes, what the budget is going to be. how— outcomes, what the budget is going to be. how we — outcomes, what the budget is going to be, how we are _ outcomes, what the budget is going to be, how we are going _ outcomes, what the budget is going to be, how we are going to- outcomes, what the budget is going to be, how we are going to ensure i to be, how we are going to ensure that budget. — to be, how we are going to ensure that budget. if— to be, how we are going to ensure that budget, if you _ to be, how we are going to ensure that budget, if you agree that - to be, how we are going to ensure that budget, if you agree that first before _ that budget, if you agree that first before you — that budget, if you agree that first before you put _ that budget, if you agree that first before you put ministers - that budget, if you agree that first before you put ministers in - that budget, if you agree that first before you put ministers in place, | before you put ministers in place, we have _ before you put ministers in place, we have a — before you put ministers in place, we have a programme _ before you put ministers in place, we have a programme for- before you put ministers in place, - we have a programme for government that we _ we have a programme for government that we are _ we have a programme for government that we are all — we have a programme for government that we are all signed _ we have a programme for government that we are all signed up _ we have a programme for government that we are all signed up to, _ that we are all signed up to, i think— that we are all signed up to, i think that _ that we are all signed up to, i think that is _ that we are all signed up to, i think that is an _ that we are all signed up to, i think that is an important - that we are all signed up to, ij think that is an important way that we are all signed up to, i- think that is an important way for us to— think that is an important way for us to travel— think that is an important way for us to travel this _ think that is an important way for us to travel this next _ think that is an important way forl us to travel this next government. it's us to travel this next government. it's not _ us to travel this next government. it's notjust— us to travel this next government. it's notjust the _ us to travel this next government. it's notjust the dop— us to travel this next government. it's not just the bop that - us to travel this next government. it's not just the bop that have - it's notjust the dop that have stepped down from the executive in the past, they have of course given that the first minister resigned in february 2022, but your party pulled

down the executive in 2017 and was out of business for three years when the cost and salaries was £15 million. will you let that happen again? i million. will you let that happen atain? ~ �* . again? i think it's absolutely unfathomable _ again? i think it's absolutely unfathomable that - again? i think it's absolutely unfathomable that we - again? i think it's absolutely unfathomable that we be . again? i think it's absolutely - unfathomable that we be sitting here tonight and say that's not going to be another government on the side of the selection, this is a democratic process that we are all engaged in and i listen tojeffrey speak process that we are all engaged in and i listen to jeffrey speak about what he wants to deal or even and i listen tojeffrey speak about what he wants to deal or even dug in terms of negotiating a programme for government and those things are all important, let's have those conversations, but what i still don't hear tonight in these first few minutes is that if they don't accept that democratic outcome of the election, i think that's what the election, i think that's what the public might want to hear. we all engage in the public for a period of time now, and the things that the public want us to respond to a string to put money in their pockets to help them deal with the cost of living crisis. it's about trying to invest in our health service, so the plans in the world will not deliver that if you are

going to accept that. you will not deliver that if you are going to accept that. you stayed out of government _ going to accept that. you stayed out of government over _ going to accept that. you stayed out of government over issues - going to accept that. you stayed out of government over issues like - going to accept that. you stayed out of government over issues like irish | of government over issues like irish language, you know, it wasn't cost of living then, it was the irish language act, the dp not equally entitled to choose the part of the lies the issue on which to negotiate? i lies the issue on which to negotiate?— lies the issue on which to negotiate? i think they are dishonest _ negotiate? i think they are dishonest with _ negotiate? i think they are dishonest with the - negotiate? i think they are dishonest with the public l negotiate? i think they are - dishonest with the public because they are holding us ransom, they are holding our politics ransom and our public ransom, whereas the rest of us want to put money into peoples pockets and deal with the cost of living crisis committee appear telling people that their identity is under threat when that is not a question whatsoever. so is under threat when that is not a question whatsoever.— is under threat when that is not a question whatsoever. so what are we tellin: the question whatsoever. so what are we telling the people _ question whatsoever. so what are we telling the people of— question whatsoever. so what are we telling the people of northern - telling the people of northern ireland, michelle? let telling the people of northern ireland, michelle?— telling the people of northern ireland, michelle? . ireland, michelle? let me finish the cuestion. ireland, michelle? let me finish the question- so — ireland, michelle? let me finish the question. so what _ ireland, michelle? let me finish the question. so what you're _ ireland, michelle? let me finish the question. so what you're telling - ireland, michelle? let me finish the question. so what you're telling the | question. so what you're telling the electorate is that you will not accept a democratic outcome of the election and i want us to make politics work. i want everybody to make politics work. you politics work. i want everybody to make politics work.— politics work. i want everybody to make politics work. you are shaking our head. your head. that is not what i said. as michelle says she _ that is not what i said. as michelle says she will be there on day one, the last time around she wasn't there _ the last time around she wasn't there until— the last time around she wasn't there until they 1044.— there until they 1041». african i didn't there until they 1044. african i didn't know — there until they 1044. african i didn't know you _ there until they 1044. african i didn't know you are _ there until they 1044. african i didn't know you are in - there until they 1044. african i - didn't know you are in westminster hanging around the tories establish he was minister of health at that time in those three years the waiting list grew and grew and grew,

and now they have to clear up the mess that was left behind. i5 mess that was left behind. is leaving government to such a bad thing, then why did you do it? naomi lona will thing, then why did you do it? naomi long will be — thing, then why did you do it? naomi long will be the _ thing, then why did you do it? naomi long will be the minister _ thing, then why did you do it? naomi long will be the minister of _ long will be the minister of justice, rob and someone will be the minister of health, they continue in their post, but then we go back to instrument where there are no minister is in place, it simply not true. they are caretaker ministers. tell them _ they are caretaker ministers. tell them to— they are caretaker ministers. tell them to take decisions.— them to take decisions. recently them to take decisions. recently the took them to take decisions. recently they took a _ them to take decisions. recently they took a decision _ them to take decisions. recently they took a decision to _ them to take decisions. recently they took a decision to allocate l they took a decision to allocate £400 million to the health service without executive approval, that proves that decisions have been taken by these ministers. it doesn't matter if you pull people out of the executive, but please answerjoe's question. executive, but please answerjoe's cuestion. . executive, but please answerjoe's cuestion. , ., , question. there is no budget, there is no budget — question. there is no budget, there is no budget for _ question. there is no budget, there is no budget for next _ question. there is no budget, there is no budget for next year, - question. there is no budget, there is no budget for next year, so - question. there is no budget, there is no budget for next year, so we i is no budget for next year, so we can talk— is no budget for next year, so we can talk about _ is no budget for next year, so we can talk about this _ is no budget for next year, so we can talk about this all— is no budget for next year, so we can talk about this all night, - is no budget for next year, so we| can talk about this all night, there is no _ can talk about this all night, there is no budget— can talk about this all night, there is no budget agreed _ can talk about this all night, there is no budget agreed for— can talk about this all night, there is no budget agreed for next - can talk about this all night, there is no budget agreed for next year. the reality— is no budget agreed for next year. the reality is — is no budget agreed for next year. the reality is that _ is no budget agreed for next year. the reality is that we _ is no budget agreed for next year. the reality is that we can - is no budget agreed for next year. the reality is that we can talk- the reality is that we can talk about — the reality is that we can talk about the _ the reality is that we can talk about the cost _ the reality is that we can talk about the cost of— the reality is that we can talk about the cost of living - the reality is that we can talk about the cost of living and l the reality is that we can talk. about the cost of living and we the reality is that we can talk- about the cost of living and we can talk about — about the cost of living and we can talk about health, _ about the cost of living and we can talk about health, and _ about the cost of living and we can talk about health, and we - about the cost of living and we can talk about health, and we will - about the cost of living and we can talk about health, and we will talk| talk about health, and we will talk about _ talk about health, and we will talk about some — talk about health, and we will talk about some of— talk about health, and we will talk about some of those _ talk about health, and we will talk about some of those issues, - talk about health, and we will talk about some of those issues, but l talk about health, and we will talki about some of those issues, but to tet about some of those issues, but to get this— about some of those issues, but to get this out— about some of those issues, but to get this out of— about some of those issues, but to get this out of the _ about some of those issues, but to get this out of the way— about some of those issues, but to get this out of the way first, - get this out of the way first, nothing _ get this out of the way first, nothing will _ get this out of the way first, nothing will be _ get this out of the way first, nothing will be done - get this out of the way first, nothing will be done about i get this out of the way first, . nothing will be done about any get this out of the way first, - nothing will be done about any of these _ nothing will be done about any of these issues _

nothing will be done about any of these issues if— nothing will be done about any of these issues if we _ nothing will be done about any of these issues if we do _ nothing will be done about any of these issues if we do not - nothing will be done about any of these issues if we do not have i nothing will be done about any of these issues if we do not have a. these issues if we do not have a government _ these issues if we do not have a government. jeffrey, _ these issues if we do not have a government. jeffrey, again - these issues if we do not have ai government. jeffrey, again today these issues if we do not have a . government. jeffrey, again today is saying _ government. jeffrey, again today is saying to _ government. jeffrey, again today is saying to that's _ government. jeffrey, again today is saying to that's refusing _ government. jeffrey, again today is saying to that's refusing to - government. jeffrey, again today is saying to that's refusing to say- saying to that's refusing to say whether— saying to that's refusing to say whether he _ saying to that's refusing to say whether he wants _ saying to that's refusing to say whether he wants one - saying to that's refusing to sayj whether he wants one because saying to that's refusing to say. whether he wants one because he wants _ whether he wants one because he wants a _ whether he wants one because he wants a deal— whether he wants one because he wants a deal between _ whether he wants one because he wants a deal between the - whether he wants one because he wants a deal between the britishl wants a deal between the british government— wants a deal between the british government and _ wants a deal between the british government and the _ wants a deal between the british government and the european . government and the european commission _ government and the european commission. well, _ government and the european commission. well, that- government and the european commission. well, that is- government and the european commission. well, that is up. government and the european. commission. well, that is up to them _ commission. well, that is up to them we — commission. well, that is up to them we can _ commission. well, that is up to them. we can talk— commission. well, that is up to them. we can talk to _ commission. well, that is up to them. we can talk to them, - commission. well, that is up to them. we can talk to them, we| commission. well, that is up to - them. we can talk to them, we can negotiate _ them. we can talk to them, we can negotiate the — them. we can talk to them, we can negotiate the neck _ them. we can talk to them, we can negotiate the neck negotiate, - them. we can talk to them, we can negotiate the neck negotiate, but i them. we can talk to them, we can i negotiate the neck negotiate, but we cannot _ negotiate the neck negotiate, but we cannot stop _ negotiate the neck negotiate, but we cannot stop government _ negotiate the neck negotiate, but we cannot stop government here - negotiate the neck negotiate, but we cannot stop government here just - cannot stop government here just because _ cannot stop government here just because that _ cannot stop government here just because that hasn't _ cannot stop government here just because that hasn't been - cannot stop government here just because that hasn't been done i cannot stop government here just. because that hasn't been done yet. you may— because that hasn't been done yet. you may not— because that hasn't been done yet. you may not want _ because that hasn't been done yet. you may not want to _ because that hasn't been done yet. you may not want to be _ because that hasn't been done yet. you may not want to be part - because that hasn't been done yet. you may not want to be part of... i you may not want to be part of... applause you may not want to be part of the debate about our future in terms of this protocol in the way in which... i know who is part of the debate last time — i know who is part of the debate last time in— i know who is part of the debate last time. . ., ., , ., last time. in which we have lots of u on us last time. in which we have lots of upon us and northern _ last time. in which we have lots of upon us and northern ireland - last time. in which we have lots of upon us and northern ireland in i upon us and northern ireland in which we have no say. i want to be elected by the people of northern ireland to make their lives. crosstalk.— ireland to make their lives. crosstalk. �* , . ., ., �* , crosstalk. let's change that. let's aet crosstalk. let's change that. let's get lawmaking _ crosstalk. let's change that. let's get lawmaking back— crosstalk. let's change that. let's get lawmaking back instrument - crosstalk. let's change that. let's i get lawmaking back instrument where it really belongs. that's what i want to achieve that's what the dp is out to achieve. that's why we want... ., ., ., ., , ., want... international agreements are not under the — want... international agreements are not under the offices _ want... international agreements are not under the offices of _ want... international agreements are not under the offices of the _ not under the offices of the assembly or the executive. that is fair westminster. that is thatjob

you had — fair westminster. that is thatjob you had when you attend dup and p is, you had when you attend dup and p is. when _ you had when you attend dup and p is. when you — you had when you attend dup and p is, when you have a year of the conservative government and you have a deal _ conservative government and you have a deal with _ conservative government and you have a deal with them, and what did you deliver— a deal with them, and what did you deliver but— a deal with them, and what did you deliver but the mess that we are in now? _ deliver but the mess that we are in now? that — deliver but the mess that we are in now? that you are complaining about. so if you _ now? that you are complaining about. so if you want to do the job and if you want— so if you want to do the job and if you want to — so if you want to do the job and if you want to tell those of us who are still in ministerial positions to tet still in ministerial positions to get on with the job, do yourjob and actually— get on with the job, do yourjob and actually step up and say you are willing _ actually step up and say you are willing to — actually step up and say you are willing to form a government. naomi, we are doing — willing to form a government. naomi, we are doing our _ willing to form a government. naomi, we are doing ourjob, _ willing to form a government. naomi, we are doing ourjob, we _ willing to form a government. naomi, we are doing ourjob, we are - we are doing ourjob, we are fighting the case for northern ireland whilst others don't bother to take their seats, turn up and make the case for northern ireland. will you accept the democratic outcome — will you accept the democratic outcome of the election? | will you accept the democratic outcome of the election? i don't atree outcome of the election? i don't agree with _ outcome of the election? i don't agree with naomi _ outcome of the election? i don't agree with naomi long, - outcome of the election? i don't agree with naomi long, she - outcome of the election? i don't| agree with naomi long, she says leave it to westminster to sort this out. know, that is not what i said. that is not _ know, that is not what i said. that is not what — know, that is not what i said. that is not what i — know, that is not what i said. that is not what i said. i said the assembly— is not what i said. i said the assembly cannot do it. let is not what i said. i said the assembly cannot do it. let me bring the audience _ assembly cannot do it. let me bring the audience in. _ assembly cannot do it. let me bring the audience in. jeffery, _ assembly cannot do it. let me bring the audience in. jeffery, let - assembly cannot do it. let me bring the audience in. jeffery, let me - the audience in. jeffery, let me bring the audience into my interest in the back rather, the woman with her hand up, please. it in the back rather, the woman with her hand up, please.— her hand up, please. it 'ust seems that jeffery — her hand up, please. it 'ust seems that jeffery seems h her hand up, please. it 'ust seems that jeffery seems to _ her hand up, please. itjust seems that jeffery seems to be _ her hand up, please. itjust seems i that jeffery seems to be showboating to other _ that jeffery seems to be showboating to other people _ that jeffery seems to be showboating to other people if— that jeffery seems to be showboating to other people. if you _ that jeffery seems to be showboating to other people. if you want - that jeffery seems to be showboating to other people. if you want to - that jeffery seems to be showboating to other people. if you want to showl to other people. if you want to show up to other people. if you want to show up to— to other people. if you want to show up to further— to other people. if you want to show up to further the _ to other people. if you want to show up to further the electorate, - to other people. if you want to show up to further the electorate, show. up to further the electorate, show

up. up to further the electorate, show up it's_ up to further the electorate, show up it's not— up to further the electorate, show up. it's not an— up to further the electorate, show up. it's not an issue. _ up to further the electorate, show up. it's not an issue. if— up to further the electorate, show up. it's not an issue. if you - up to further the electorate, show up. it's not an issue. if you are . up. it's not an issue. if you are going — up. it's not an issue. if you are going to — up. it's not an issue. if you are going to run. _ up. it's not an issue. if you are going to run, take _ up. it's not an issue. if you are going to run, take your seat i up. it's not an issue. if you are. going to run, take your seat and up. it's not an issue. if you are - going to run, take your seat and go inand— going to run, take your seat and go inand form— going to run, take your seat and go inand form a— going to run, take your seat and go in and form a government. - going to run, take your seat and go in and form a government. say- going to run, take your seat and goj in and form a government. say that you're _ in and form a government. say that you're going — in and form a government. say that you're going to— in and form a government. say that you're going to do— in and form a government. say that you're going to do it _ in and form a government. say that you're going to do it instead of- you're going to do it instead of turning — you're going to do it instead of turning around _ you're going to do it instead of turning around and _ you're going to do it instead of turning around and saying - you're going to do it instead of. turning around and saying we're going _ turning around and saying we're going out— turning around and saying we're going out to _ turning around and saying we're going out to solve _ turning around and saying we're going out to solve the _ turning around and saying we're going out to solve the protocol, j turning around and saying we're i going out to solve the protocol, it is an— going out to solve the protocol, it is an issue — going out to solve the protocol, it is an issue that _ going out to solve the protocol, it is an issue that if— going out to solve the protocol, it is an issue that if you _ going out to solve the protocol, it is an issue that if you are - going out to solve the protocol, it is an issue that if you are going i is an issue that if you are going to stand _ is an issue that if you are going to stand in— is an issue that if you are going to stand in an — is an issue that if you are going to stand in an election _ is an issue that if you are going to stand in an election and you - is an issue that if you are going to stand in an election and you are i stand in an election and you are going _ stand in an election and you are going to — stand in an election and you are going to form _ stand in an election and you are going to form a _ stand in an election and you are going to form a government, i stand in an election and you are i going to form a government, from stand in an election and you are - going to form a government, from sas here tonight _ going to form a government, from sas here tonight that — going to form a government, from sas here tonight that you're _ going to form a government, from sas here tonight that you're going - going to form a government, from sas here tonight that you're going to - going to form a government, from sas here tonight that you're going to do . here tonight that you're going to do it instead _ here tonight that you're going to do it instead of— here tonight that you're going to do it instead of leaving _ here tonight that you're going to do it instead of leaving everyone - here tonight that you're going to do it instead of leaving everyone herel it instead of leaving everyone here in limbo _ it instead of leaving everyone here in limbo not — it instead of leaving everyone here in limbo not knowing _ it instead of leaving everyone here in limbo not knowing what's - it instead of leaving everyone here in limbo not knowing what's going | it instead of leaving everyone here i in limbo not knowing what's going to happen— in limbo not knowing what's going to happen on— in limbo not knowing what's going to happen on friday _ in limbo not knowing what's going to happen on friday-— happen on friday. applause gentleman — happen on friday. applause gentleman and _ happen on friday. applause gentleman and a _ happen on friday. applause gentleman and a third - happen on friday. applause gentleman and a third row i happen on friday. applause - gentleman and a third row here, yes, please, sarah. i gentleman and a third row here, yes, please. sarah-— please, sarah. i am from a broader community- _ please, sarah. i am from a broader community- the — please, sarah. i am from a broader community. the protocol— please, sarah. i am from a broader community. the protocol is - please, sarah. i am from a broader community. the protocol is crucial| community. the protocol is crucial for us. _ community. the protocol is crucial for us. it— community. the protocol is crucial for us. it is— community. the protocol is crucial for us. it is a— community. the protocol is crucial for us. it is a compromise. 0ver community. the protocol is crucial for us. it is a compromise. over 40 million _ for us. it is a compromise. over 40 million vehicles move across this barter— million vehicles move across this barter annually and it is an absolute _ barter annually and it is an absolute fact that the protocol issues — absolute fact that the protocol issues will be resolved between the uk government and the eu commission. the assembly has no input whatsoever.— the assembly has no input whatsoever. . ., , , �* whatsoever. that actually isn't true. whatsoever. that actually isn't true- the _ whatsoever. that actually isn't true. the assembly _ whatsoever. that actually isn't true. the assembly does - whatsoever. that actually isn't true. the assembly does have| whatsoever. that actually isn't i true. the assembly does have an impact, and that's written into the protocol itself that stop it is inadequate, but this is an

opportunity for the people of northern ireland to have their say. explained to them clearly why not going into government helps you be a negotiated protocol. i going into government helps you be a negotiated protocol.— negotiated protocol. i went into the executive back _ negotiated protocol. i went into the executive back at _ negotiated protocol. i went into the executive back at the _ negotiated protocol. i went into the executive back at the beginning - negotiated protocol. i went into the executive back at the beginning of i executive back at the beginning of 2020 on the basis of an agreement that all of these parties signed up to called new decade, new approach, and in that agreement, it stated clearly that the uk government was committed to protecting northern ireland's place within the uk internal market. the uk government failed to deliver that and i am entitled to say the agreement has been breached. i will —— until that agreement is honoured by the government, i think i am entitled to say that basis on which i entered the executive has not been matched, and i am entitled to say to the government that they need to resolve this. ,, ,, . government that they need to resolve this. ,, ,, ~ 1, . ,, ., this. crosstalk. back to the oriainal this. crosstalk. back to the original question _ this. crosstalk. back to the original question then, - this. crosstalk. back to the original question then, until i this. crosstalk. back to the i original question then, until that is resolved, you will take your pay but not enter a government? irlo. is resolved, you will take your pay but not enter a government? no. i'm sa int but not enter a government? no. i'm sa in: that but not enter a government? no. i'm saying that we — but not enter a government? no. i'm saying that we will _ but not enter a government? no. i'm saying that we will of _ but not enter a government? no. i'm saying that we will of course - saying that we will of course continue to do ourjob, we will represent the people who elect us,

we are seeking... clinic you cannot do yourjob without an executive. it's not as if i'm stepping back and saying one thing, i have made clear that we want to see the protocol issue resolved quickly because it is undermining political stability in northern ireland and i understand the points that are being made, but if we had a situation where one side agreed something on the other side didn't, that is not consensus. the unionist community... jeffrey said quite a lot there. the reality— jeffrey said quite a lot there. the reality is — jeffrey said quite a lot there. the reality is he's waited for boris johnson — reality is he's waited for boris johnson of the health and saving. ask anybody else's ever trusted boris _ ask anybody else's ever trusted borisjohnson and his ask anybody else's ever trusted boris johnson and his life. jeffrey has to— boris johnson and his life. jeffrey has to make this election about the union _ has to make this election about the union this— has to make this election about the union. this election is not about the colour— union. this election is not about the colour of people's passports is about— the colour of people's passports is about us needing to get around the table and _ about us needing to get around the table and your money into the pockets — table and your money into the pockets because they're starving, the catcher urinating on. that's the real issue. — the catcher urinating on. that's the real issue. you must be hearing a jeffrey. you — real issue. you must be hearing a jeffrey, you must be hearing the same _ jeffrey, you must be hearing the same thing that i am hearing all the doors _ same thing that i am hearing all the doors and _ same thing that i am hearing all the doors and they don't care about

protocols — doors and they don't care about protocols of positions at they want money _ protocols of positions at they want money in — protocols of positions at they want money in the pockets because they are struggling. that is not true. it are struggling. that is not true. [it is are struggling. that is not true. is true. i'm are struggling. that is not true. it is true. i'm sorry, but it's not. i'm talking to many people and for them to concern... i'm talking to many people and for them to concern. . ._ them to concern... people going to them to concern... people going to the rallies, ordinary _ them to concern... people going to the rallies, ordinary people - them to concern... people going to the rallies, ordinary people not- the rallies, ordinary people not concerned. the rallies, ordinary people not concerned-— the rallies, ordinary people not concerned. , ., ., , concerned. the protocol is driving u - . . . concerned. the protocol is driving on -- okay. _ concerned. the protocol is driving uo--- okay. i'm — concerned. the protocol is driving up... okay, i'm going _ concerned. the protocol is driving up... okay, i'm going back- concerned. the protocol is driving up... okay, i'm going back to - concerned. the protocol is driving up... okay, i'm going back to the| up... okay, i'm going back to the audience- — up... okay, i'm going back to the audience. it's _ up... okay, i'm going back to the audience. it's increasing - up... okay, i'm going back to the audience. it's increasing the - up... okay, i'm going back to the audience. it's increasing the cost| audience. it's increasing the cost of fundint audience. it's increasing the cost of funding northern _ audience. it's increasing the cost of funding northern island. - audience. it's increasing the cost| of funding northern island. jeffrey donaldson. _ of funding northern island. jeffrey donaldson, if— of funding northern island. jeffrey donaldson, if you _ of funding northern island. jeffrey donaldson, if you get _ of funding northern island. jeffrey donaldson, if you get a _ of funding northern island. jeffrey donaldson, if you get a quote - donaldson, if you get a quote statistics tell us where they're from. i statistics tell us where they're from. . . , statistics tell us where they're from. . ., , from. i can certainly tell you with from. i can certainly tell you with from- they _ from. i can certainly tell you with from. they come _ from. i can certainly tell you with from. they come from _ from. i can certainly tell you with from. they come from monthly l from. i can certainly tell you with - from. they come from monthly survey that takes place of goods in northern ireland and the comparison between those goods and the cost of goods... between those goods and the cost of toods... , ., , ., ,, between those goods and the cost of toods... , ., , ., . goods... does not break down what class are due _ goods... does not break down what class are due to _ goods... does not break down what class are due to the _ goods. .. does not break down what class are due to the protocol- goods... does not break down what class are due to the protocol or - class are due to the protocol or what cause are due to brexit or what because i do to northern ireland being a different part of the uk? the different goods from great britain to northern ireland the

first year the protocol has increased by 27%. those figures come from the holly is a northern island of an offer me. and those costs are passed on to the consumer. let someone _ passed on to the consumer. let someone else _ passed on to the consumer. let someone else get a chance. it goes back. _ someone else get a chance. it goes back. the _ someone else get a chance. it goes back, the issue doesn't wash with the public— back, the issue doesn't wash with the public as well. jeffrey made a point _ the public as well. jeffrey made a point about consensus politics and i think— point about consensus politics and i think that's — point about consensus politics and i think that's an important conversation. i believe in partnership working and i believe with working with others. but when jeffrey— with working with others. but when jeffrey says consensus politics he means _ jeffrey says consensus politics he means on — jeffrey says consensus politics he means on his terms. that's not where we are _ means on his terms. that's not where we are today— means on his terms. that's not where we are today and it's not working to be in _ we are today and it's not working to be in the _ we are today and it's not working to be in the future. applause. we will run out of time if we spent all of the time on our first question. what can your second question. it comes from maxwell smith, a teacherfrom question. it comes from maxwell smith, a teacher from alsace. maxwell. hello. do you want there to be a border— maxwell. hello. do you want there to be a border pole after the selection?— be a border pole after the selection? ~ . �* �* selection? michelle o'neill. a border pole — selection? michelle o'neill. a border pole is _ selection? michelle o'neill. a border pole is a _ selection? michelle o'neill. a border pole is a referendum l selection? michelle o'neill. al border pole is a referendum on selection? michelle o'neill. a - border pole is a referendum on irish unity. border pole is a referendum on irish uni . �* . ,

border pole is a referendum on irish uni.�* . ., ., unity. i've always made the case for the good friday _ unity. i've always made the case for the good friday agreement - unity. i've always made the case for the good friday agreement that - unity. i've always made the case for the good friday agreement that we | the good friday agreement that we should have their say in a border pole or in an a referendum. the conversation is already underway. i think brexit is been a real catalyst for that conversation. a lot of people are entering that conversation but it needs to be a healthy debate. we need to have conversations or what that will look like into the future. when i say the elections about change about the future it's about how we can plan for a betterfuture future it's about how we can plan for a better future for all of us together. ibe for a better future for all of us to . ether. �* . for a better future for all of us totether. �* . . for a better future for all of us together-— for a better future for all of us totether. �* . , ., ,, . . together. be a bit more specific. do ou want together. be a bit more specific. do you want a — together. be a bit more specific. do you want a border— together. be a bit more specific. do you want a border pole _ together. be a bit more specific. do you want a border pole after - together. be a bit more specific. do you want a border pole after the - you want a border pole after the selection?— you want a border pole after the selection? ~ ., , ., ., , ., selection? when do you want your border pole? _ selection? when do you want your border pole? as _ selection? when do you want your border pole? as it _ selection? when do you want your border pole? as it were _ selection? when do you want your border pole? as it were in - selection? when do you want your border pole? as it were in the - border pole? as it were in the decade of opportunity so i believe the next thought the next decade will be have a conversation for the shin fainted out ads in us newspapers, the washington post where you called and set a timetable to plan, to advocate.— to plan, to advocate. could you be a bit more specific, _ to plan, to advocate. could you be a bit more specific, when _ to plan, to advocate. could you be a bit more specific, when you - to plan, to advocate. could you be a bit more specific, when you want. to plan, to advocate. could you be a| bit more specific, when you want the border pole? mr; bit more specific, when you want the border pole?— border pole? my response to that is i want to border pole? my response to that is i want to have _ border pole? my response to that is i want to have it _ border pole? my response to that is i want to have it whatever _ border pole? my response to that is i want to have it whatever it's the i i want to have it whatever it's the right time. i'm nuts fixated on a date been fixated on the planning. brexit is a good case of how to not do a referendum.

applause. whatever comes a time where everybody will have their say. let's make that also very clear. it will only be the people here that will only be the people here that will decide the constitutional change. that's a good thing for us to all get engaged in the conversation for top in terms of this election, it's about the things we have and mentioned in the first few minutes of this debate. it's about the cost of living and in terms of what the executive can do about that. ~ , ., , ., terms of what the executive can do about that-— about that. why are you as the leader of sinn _ about that. why are you as the leader of sinn fein _ about that. why are you as the leader of sinn fein being - about that. why are you as the leader of sinn fein being coy i about that. why are you as the - leader of sinn fein being coy about a date for up border pole? surely thatis a date for up border pole? surely that is your raison d'etre for the don't think it's a surprise to maxwell or anyone else just in terms of my position and unification of this country the fact that we can do better. ~ . , ., , ., better. what understand in terms of this debate around _ better. what understand in terms of this debate around this _ better. what understand in terms of this debate around this election - this debate around this election campaign comments about cost of living, health, among the doors, that's what people are telling me. it's about what this executive can do. so it's about what this executive can do, , ., �* it's about what this executive can do, y., �* ., it's about what this executive can do. y.�* ., it's about what this executive can do. �* ., ., it's about what this executive can do. ., ., , ._ do. so you're not can or use any increase mandate _ do. so you're not can or use any increase mandate as a - do. so you're not can or use any increase mandate as a reason i do. so you're not can or use any| increase mandate as a reason to do. so you're not can or use any - increase mandate as a reason to call for border pole? i’see increase mandate as a reason to call for border pole?— for border pole? i've been calling for border pole? i've been calling for change _ for border pole? i've been calling for change for — for border pole? i've been calling for change for some _ for border pole? i've been calling for change for some time. - for border pole? i've been calling for change for some time. that i for border pole? i've been calling l for change for some time. that will continue in this conversations

already started, will continue regardless of the election. doug beattie. michelle _ regardless of the election. doug beattie. michelle is _ regardless of the election. doug beattie. michelle is a _ regardless of the election. doug beattie. michelle is a leader- regardless of the election. doug beattie. michelle is a leader of i regardless of the election. doug i beattie. michelle is a leader of the re - ublican beattie. michelle is a leader of the republican party. _ beattie. michelle is a leader of the republican party, of— beattie. michelle is a leader of the republican party, of course - beattie. michelle is a leader of the republican party, of course she i republican party, of course she wants _ republican party, of course she wants united ireland and a proud confident— wants united ireland and a proud confident union. of course i want the united — confident union. of course i want the united kingdom. that's a given, that's— the united kingdom. that's a given, that's always been the case. the dup is been _ that's always been the case. the dup is been in _ that's always been the case. the dup is been in government which in vain for the _ is been in government which in vain for the last— is been in government which in vain for the last 15 years and trust me now. the — for the last 15 years and trust me now, the republic is done suddenly this year— now, the republic is done suddenly this year want to have reunification. they've always wanted it. they've _ reunification. they've always wanted it. they've always shared government. but it's not there yet. it's government. but it's not there yet. it's not _ government. but it's not there yet. it's not even — government. but it's not there yet. it's not even anywhere close. if you look at _ it's not even anywhere close. if you look at the — it's not even anywhere close. if you look at the elections of 2019, we had the — look at the elections of 2019, we had the very same scare tactics. if you don't— had the very same scare tactics. if you don't both phrases can be a border— you don't both phrases can be a border pole. it's what's used to drive people through fear to the polling — drive people through fear to the polling booth. we need to get rid of it. there _ polling booth. we need to get rid of it. there is— polling booth. we need to get rid of it. there is no border pole on this ballot. _ it. there is no border pole on this ballot. after _ it. there is no border pole on this ballot. after the election, regardless of the largest party and who's— regardless of the largest party and who's not— regardless of the largest party and who's not the largest party, republicans will still want to united — republicans will still want to united ireland for that uniqueness will still— united ireland for that uniqueness will still want to united kingdom. we have — will still want to united kingdom. we have to do is to advocate for the

people _ we have to do is to advocate for the people in— we have to do is to advocate for the people in northern ireland on the here and — people in northern ireland on the here and now. and were right to say that the _ here and now. and were right to say that the cost — here and now. and were right to say that the cost of living is not a tagiine. — that the cost of living is not a tagline. it is not a strap on, it is a lived _ tagline. it is not a strap on, it is a lived experience and we have to deal with— a lived experience and we have to deal with that. there's no border pole. _ pole. applause just to clarify, you don't want to see one? . . . just to clarify, you don't want to see one? .. , .,�* just to clarify, you don't want to seeone? .. , .,�* ~ just to clarify, you don't want to seeone? .. , .,�* �*,., see one? occurs i don't. a proud union is. — see one? occurs i don't. a proud union is. why _ see one? occurs i don't. a proud union is, why would _ see one? occurs i don't. a proud union is, why would i? _ see one? occurs i don't. a proud union is, why would i? jeffrey i union is, why would i? jeffrey donaldson — union is, why would i? jeffrey donaldson there _ union is, why would i? jeffrey donaldson there was - union is, why would i? jeffrey donaldson there was when i union is, why would i? jeffrey - donaldson there was when someone in your party arlene foster said bring it on foot or perhaps it's time to have a border pole to clear this mess up, as she put it. do have a border pole to clear this mess up, as she put it.- have a border pole to clear this mess up, as she put it. do you want to see when — mess up, as she put it. do you want to see when al? _ mess up, as she put it. do you want to see when al? no, _ mess up, as she put it. do you want to see when al? no, i _ mess up, as she put it. do you want to see when al? no, i don't. - mess up, as she put it. do you want to see when al? no, i don't. i - to see when al? no, i don't. i believe — to see when al? no, i don't. i believe a _ to see when al? no, i don't. i believe a portable _ to see when al? no, i don't. i believe a portable would - to see when al? no, i don't. i believe a portable would be i to see when al? no, i don't. i- believe a portable would be divisive and i believe a portable would be divisive and i certainly— believe a portable would be divisive and i certainly don't _ believe a portable would be divisive and i certainly don't think— believe a portable would be divisive and i certainly don't think that - believe a portable would be divisive and i certainly don't think that we i and i certainly don't think that we should _ and i certainly don't think that we should be — and i certainly don't think that we should be focusing _ and i certainly don't think that we should be focusing on _ and i certainly don't think that we should be focusing on that. - and i certainly don't think that we should be focusing on that. i- and i certainly don't think that we | should be focusing on that. i think what we _ should be focusing on that. i think what we do — should be focusing on that. i think what we do need _ should be focusing on that. i think what we do need is _ should be focusing on that. i think what we do need is to _ should be focusing on that. i think what we do need is to focus - should be focusing on that. i think what we do need is to focus on - should be focusing on that. i think| what we do need is to focus on the issues _ what we do need is to focus on the issues that really— what we do need is to focus on the issues that really matter _ what we do need is to focus on the issues that really matter to - what we do need is to focus on the| issues that really matter to people. dou- issues that really matter to people. doug says _ issues that really matter to people. doug says that _ issues that really matter to people. doug says that he _ issues that really matter to people. doug says that he wants _ issues that really matter to people. doug says that he wants a - issues that really matter to people. doug says that he wants a united i doug says that he wants a united kingdom — doug says that he wants a united kingdom as — doug says that he wants a united kingdom as ui _ doug says that he wants a united kingdom as ui but _ doug says that he wants a united kingdom as ui but i _ doug says that he wants a united kingdom as ui but i don't - doug says that he wants a united kingdom as ui but i don't think. doug says that he wants a united . kingdom as ui but i don't think doug recognises _ kingdom as ui but i don't think doug recognises the — kingdom as ui but i don't think doug recognises the threat _ kingdom as ui but i don't think doug recognises the threat that _ kingdom as ui but i don't think doug recognises the threat that the - recognises the threat that the protocol — recognises the threat that the protocol presents _ recognises the threat that the protocol presents to - recognises the threat that the protocol presents to the - recognises the threat that the i protocol presents to the union. recognises the threat that the - protocol presents to the union. the court _ protocol presents to the union. the court of— protocol presents to the union. the court of appeal _ protocol presents to the union. the court of appeal has _ protocol presents to the union. the court of appeal has stated - protocol presents to the union. the court of appeal has stated recentlyj court of appeal has stated recently that the _ court of appeal has stated recently that the protocol— court of appeal has stated recently that the protocol alters _ court of appeal has stated recently that the protocol alters article - court of appeal has stated recently

that the protocol alters article six i that the protocol alters article six of the _ that the protocol alters article six of the acts — that the protocol alters article six of the acts of— that the protocol alters article six of the acts of union _ that the protocol alters article six of the acts of union which - that the protocol alters article six of the acts of union which protectj of the acts of union which protect our right— of the acts of union which protect our right to — of the acts of union which protect our right to trade _ of the acts of union which protect our right to trade freely - of the acts of union which protect our right to trade freely with - our right to trade freely with their own country. _ our right to trade freely with their own country. the _ our right to trade freely with their own country-— our right to trade freely with their i own country—just own country. the border pole... just to declare- -- — own country. the border pole... just to declare... that _ own country. the border pole... just to declare... that makes _ own country. the border pole... just to declare... that makes me - own country. the border pole... just to declare... that makes me a - to declare... that makes me a second-class _ to declare... that makes me a second—class citizen _ to declare... that makes me a second—class citizen in - to declare... that makes me a second—class citizen in my- to declare... that makes me a| second—class citizen in my own country. — second—class citizen in my own country. that _ second—class citizen in my own country. that is _ second—class citizen in my own country. that is something - second—class citizen in my own country. that is something i. second—class citizen in my owni country. that is something i am second—class citizen in my own - country. that is something i am not prepared _ country. that is something i am not prepared to — country. that is something i am not prepared to accept. _ country. that is something i am not prepared to accept. sinn _ country. that is something i am not prepared to accept. sinn fein - country. that is something i am not prepared to accept. sinn fein say. prepared to accept. sinn fein say they are — prepared to accept. sinn fein say they are not _ prepared to accept. sinn fein say they are not really _ prepared to accept. sinn fein say they are not really that _ prepared to accept. sinn fein sayl they are not really that interested in a border— they are not really that interested in a border pole. _ they are not really that interested in a border pole. it _ they are not really that interested in a border pole. it is _ they are not really that interested in a border pole. it is at _ they are not really that interested in a border pole. it is at the - they are not really that interested in a border pole. it is at the heart| in a border pole. it is at the heart of their— in a border pole. it is at the heart of their manifesto, _ in a border pole. it is at the heart of their manifesto, they - of their manifesto, they are demanding _ of their manifesto, they are demanding idea. _ of their manifesto, they are demanding idea. a- of their manifesto, they are demanding idea. a few- of their manifesto, they are i demanding idea. a few weeks of their manifesto, they are - demanding idea. a few weeks ago of their manifesto, they are _ demanding idea. a few weeks ago they were in— demanding idea. a few weeks ago they were in washington _ demanding idea. a few weeks ago they were in washington in _ demanding idea. a few weeks ago they were in washington in new— demanding idea. a few weeks ago they were in washington in new york, - demanding idea. a few weeks ago they were in washington in new york, the i were in washington in new york, the washington — were in washington in new york, the washington post. _ were in washington in new york, the washington post, the _ were in washington in new york, the washington post, the new— were in washington in new york, the washington post, the new york- were in washington in new york, the i washington post, the new york times, they paid _ washington post, the new york times, they paid thousands _ washington post, the new york times, they paid thousands of— washington post, the new york times, they paid thousands of pounds - washington post, the new york times, they paid thousands of pounds are - washington post, the new york times, they paid thousands of pounds are a i they paid thousands of pounds are a bil they paid thousands of pounds are a big advert _ they paid thousands of pounds are a big advert saying _ they paid thousands of pounds are a big advert saying irish _ they paid thousands of pounds are a big advert saying irish unity - they paid thousands of pounds are a big advert saying irish unity in - they paid thousands of pounds are a big advert saying irish unity in our. big advert saying irish unity in our time. _ big advert saying irish unity in our time. anyone _ big advert saying irish unity in our time. anyone who _ big advert saying irish unity in our time. anyone who seriously- big advert saying irish unity in our| time. anyone who seriously thinks big advert saying irish unity in our. time. anyone who seriously thinks it sinn fein— time. anyone who seriously thinks it sinn fein with— time. anyone who seriously thinks it sinn fein with the _ time. anyone who seriously thinks it sinn fein with the selection - time. anyone who seriously thinks it sinn fein with the selection they. sinn fein with the selection they won't _ sinn fein with the selection they won't use that _ sinn fein with the selection they won't use that as _ sinn fein with the selection they won't use that as a _ sinn fein with the selection they won't use that as a mandate - sinn fein with the selection they won't use that as a mandate to i sinn fein with the selection they. won't use that as a mandate to push for the _ won't use that as a mandate to push for the portable _ won't use that as a mandate to push for the portable is _ won't use that as a mandate to push for the portable is diluted. - won't use that as a mandate to push for the portable is diluted. just - for the portable is diluted. just clear— for the portable is diluted. just clear out— for the portable is diluted. just clear out for _ for the portable is diluted. just clear out for us— for the portable is diluted. just clear out for us again... - for the portable is diluted. just clear out for us again... we - for the portable is diluted. just i clear out for us again... we have every right— clear out for us again... we have every right as _ clear out for us again... we have every right as a _ clear out for us again... we have every right as a unit _ clear out for us again... we have every right as a unit to _ clear out for us again... we have every right as a unit to say - every right as a unit to say that's not the _ every right as a unit to say that's not the way— every right as a unit to say that's not the way forward. _ every right as a unit to say that's not the way forward. we - every right as a unit to say that's not the way forward. we need to focus _ not the way forward. we need to focus on — not the way forward. we need to focus on the _ not the way forward. we need to focus on the cost _ not the way forward. we need to focus on the cost of _ not the way forward. we need to focus on the cost of living - not the way forward. we need to focus on the cost of living crisis, | focus on the cost of living crisis, fixing our— focus on the cost of living crisis, fixing our health _ focus on the cost of living crisis, fixing our health services, - focus on the cost of living crisis, fixing our health services, not i focus on the cost of living crisis, i fixing our health services, not on the divisive — fixing our health services, not on the divisive border— fixing our health services, not on the divisive border pole. - fixing our health services, not on the divisive border pole. but- fixing our health services, not on the divisive border pole.- fixing our health services, not on the divisive border pole. but why is a border pole _ the divisive border pole. but why is a border pole divisive _ the divisive border pole. but why is a border pole divisive early - the divisive border pole. but why is a border pole divisive early more i a border pole divisive early more divisive than a brexit pole? brexit

was called by _ divisive than a brexit pole? brexit was called by the _ divisive than a brexit pole? brexit was called by the united - divisive than a brexit pole? brexit was called by the united kingdom government. _ was called by the united kingdom government, there _ was called by the united kingdom government, there was _ was called by the united kingdom government, there was a - was called by the united kingdom - government, there was a referendum. there _ government, there was a referendum. there was— government, there was a referendum. there was a _ government, there was a referendum. there was a debate _ government, there was a referendum. there was a debate and _ government, there was a referendum. there was a debate and decision - government, there was a referendum. there was a debate and decision was i there was a debate and decision was taken _ there was a debate and decision was taken in _ there was a debate and decision was taken. ., ., , ., ., ., , taken. in the ma'ority voted against it. it would be — taken. in the majority voted against it. it would be devices _ taken. in the majority voted against it. it would be devices was - taken. in the majority voted against it. it would be devices was up - it. it would be devices was up whatever— it. it would be devices was up whatever people _ it. it would be devices was up whatever people think - it. it would be devices was up whatever people think about | it. it would be devices was up - whatever people think about brexit was divisive. it’s whatever people think about brexit was divisive-— was divisive. it's always divisive. you want to _ was divisive. it's always divisive. you want to have _ was divisive. it's always divisive. you want to have the _ was divisive. it's always divisive. you want to have the debate, i was divisive. it's always divisive. i you want to have the debate, why would you not say that michelle 0'neill can have her border pole? because i think that it will lead to instability— because i think that it will lead to instability in — because i think that it will lead to instability in northern _ because i think that it will lead to instability in northern ireland, . because i think that it will lead to instability in northern ireland, iti instability in northern ireland, it will not — instability in northern ireland, it will not fix the _ instability in northern ireland, it will not fix the problems of- will not fix the problems of ordinary— will not fix the problems of ordinary people. _ will not fix the problems of ordinary people. resolvingj will not fix the problems of. ordinary people. resolving the issues — ordinary people. resolving the issues in — ordinary people. resolving the issues in front _ ordinary people. resolving the issues in front of— ordinary people. resolving the issues in front of us _ ordinary people. resolving the issues in front of us and - ordinary people. resolving the issues in front of us and that l issues in front of us and that doesn't _ issues in front of us and that doesn't mean _ issues in front of us and that doesn't mean addressing - issues in front of us and that| doesn't mean addressing the issues in front of us and that - doesn't mean addressing the issues to the _ doesn't mean addressing the issues to the protocol— doesn't mean addressing the issues to the protocol as _ doesn't mean addressing the issues to the protocol as well. _ doesn't mean addressing the issues to the protocol as well. your- doesn't mean addressing the issues to the protocol as well.— to the protocol as well. your party of course famously _ to the protocol as well. your party of course famously sometimes - to the protocol as well. your party - of course famously sometimes accused of course famously sometimes accused of sitting on the fence of these big issues with him are you can come off tonight and an answer this question, would you like to see a border pole? we are not sitting on the fence, where tackling the issues that are up where tackling the issues that are up for debate in the assembly. we've spent most of the debate so far discussion issues of which the

assembly has no control whatsoever. rather than talking about the issues that the assembly actually can influence and change. so we can change things like how we can tackle the cost—of—living crisis, we can deal with our health service. itlot deal with our health service. not the subject _ deal with our health service. not the subject of — deal with our health service. not the subject of the question. do you want to see a border pole? brute the subject of the question. do you want to see a border pole? we can't set a date for _ want to see a border pole? we can't set a date for it _ want to see a border pole? we can't set a date for it and _ want to see a border pole? we can't set a date for it and we _ want to see a border pole? we can't set a date for it and we can - set a date for it and we can influence it. we are not going to be axing doing that asking for a border pole. what we want to do, when jeffrey talked about suspending government until his good way of the protocol, were not going to talk about suspending government. were going to talk about doing government. we believe that in the best interest at the people of northern ireland. to be very clear, jeffrey, let's not take don't mislead the public. let us not take anything for granted. i do. because there's no guarantee who will be the minister of anything after the election. let's let the public at the say on that. i there in courtesy

of caretaker until another administers been replaced with a better spot government, that is individual ministers and in a caretaker capacity in a department. government is about collective action. and we can't deal with the health service in the cost—of—living crisis when we are in silos and we can't lead together and a key decision about the budget it is true jeffrey, i'm thejob. i decision about the budget it is true jeffrey, i'm thejob.— jeffrey, i'm the 'ob. i think we did hear ou jeffrey, i'm the 'ob. i think we did hear you say — jeffrey, i'm the job. i think we did hear you say you're _ jeffrey, i'm the job. i think we did hear you say you're not _ jeffrey, i'm the job. i think we did hear you say you're not get - jeffrey, i'm the job. i think we did hear you say you're not get a - jeffrey, i'm the job. i think we did hear you say you're not get a call| hear you say you're not get a call for a border pole?— for a border pole? would you be callin: for a border pole? would you be calling for— for a border pole? would you be calling for one? _ for a border pole? would you be calling for one? people - for a border pole? would you be calling for one? people know- for a border pole? would you be | calling for one? people know my view. _ calling for one? people know my view. at — calling for one? people know my view. at the it's pretty clear. will plan _ view. at the it's pretty clear. will plan for— view. at the it's pretty clear. will plan for it. — view. at the it's pretty clear. will plan for it, combo of for it now. that's— plan for it, combo of for it now. that's not— plan for it, combo of for it now. that's not today's issue, that's an issue _ that's not today's issue, that's an issue for— that's not today's issue, that's an issue for another day. today's issues — issue for another day. today's issues the _ issue for another day. today's issues the fact that we don't even have _ issues the fact that we don't even have a _ issues the fact that we don't even have a government or guarantee of a government or anybody was going to stop and _ government or anybody was going to stop and be doing that deal with the crisis. _ stop and be doing that deal with the crisis. we _ stop and be doing that deal with the crisis. we should get away from us. the crisis _ crisis. we should get away from us. the crisis people are going through i’ilht the crisis people are going through right now— the crisis people are going through right now every single day in their own homes— right now every single day in their own homes and i think they are frankly sick of this the only person focused _ frankly sick of this the only person focused on — frankly sick of this the only person focused on the border pole in this

election is sirjeffrey donaldson. it the same old story. sinn fein ago to be _ it the same old story. sinn fein ago to be first _ it the same old story. sinn fein ago to be first ministers, we should all be afraid. — to be first ministers, we should all be afraid, this can be a border pole. — be afraid, this can be a border pole. we — be afraid, this can be a border pole, we should all be afraid. 0r pole, we should all be afraid. or maybe _ pole, we should all be afraid. or maybe we — pole, we should all be afraid. or maybe we should actually realise that the — maybe we should actually realise that the choice of the election is the choice — that the choice of the election is the choice we always have is that we sit down _ the choice we always have is that we sit down together as neighbours, work— sit down together as neighbours, work together and sort out the problems are facing people. the future... — problems are facing people. the future... , ., problems are facing people. the future... ,., ,., _, future... the border pole, column. you keep avoiding _ future... the border pole, column. you keep avoiding that. _ future... the border pole, column. you keep avoiding that. you - future... the border pole, column. you keep avoiding that. you not i you keep avoiding that. you not listening. — you keep avoiding that. you not listening. they're _ you keep avoiding that. you not listening. they're saying - you keep avoiding that. you not listening. they're saying the - listening. they're saying the protocol _ listening. they're saying the protocol is _ listening. they're saying the protocol is harming - listening. they're saying the protocol is harming our- listening. they're saying the i protocol is harming our place in listening. they're saying the - protocol is harming our place in the united _ protocol is harming our place in the united kingdom. _ protocol is harming our place in the united kingdom. it— protocol is harming our place in the united kingdom. it is _ protocol is harming our place in the united kingdom. it is harming - protocol is harming our place in the united kingdom. it is harming ouri united kingdom. it is harming our common— united kingdom. it is harming our common green _ united kingdom. it is harming our common green economy, - united kingdom. it is harming our common green economy, its - common green economy, its undermining _ common green economy, its undermining stability- common green economy, its undermining stability and - common green economy, its undermining stability and i. common green economy, its i undermining stability and i are nothing — undermining stability and i are nothing from _ undermining stability and i are nothing from you... _ undermining stability and i are nothing from you... you - undermining stability and i are nothing from you... you said i undermining stability and i are - nothing from you... you said even to the eu... _ nothing from you... you said even to the eu... ., , ., the eu... you said tell us what union is a _ the eu... you said tell us what union is a sign _ the eu... you said tell us what union is a sign on _ the eu... you said tell us what union is a sign on the - the eu... you said tell us what| union is a sign on the protocol, it keeps coming up. union is a sign on the protocol, it keeps coming un— union is a sign on the protocol, it keeps coming up. let's be absolutely clear. we need _ keeps coming up. let's be absolutely clear. we need honesty _ keeps coming up. let's be absolutely clear. we need honesty with - keeps coming up. let's be absolutely clear. we need honesty with the - clear. we need honesty with the people here and we have been honest sense brexit. we said it would be destabilising and we were right. we talked about the protocol, it would be destabilising, it should be. and we are right. in other people had a chance to block it and they didn't.

he didn't. if you blocked it wouldn't be here. if you blocked it we would be talking about it. that’s we would be talking about it. that's democracy and... _ we would be talking about it. that's democracy and... across _ we would be talking about it. that's democracy and... across mac. - we would be talking about it. that's democracy and... across mac. the | democracy and... across mac. the first bullet — democracy and... across mac. the first bullet underneath _ democracy and... across mac. the first bullet underneath it, - democracy and... across mac. the first bullet underneath it, the - first bullet underneath it, the protocol must be replaced, if you remove it or replace it. we are the only ones who have said that there's an issue with the particle where it's feast or famine, we need to have something that works for absolutely everybody. and we haven't done that. it says remove it here. 0kay. done that. it says remove it here. oka . . , , done that. it says remove it here. oka . . , . g ' , done that. it says remove it here. oka. okay. the reality is, jeffrey isn't acce tin . okay. the reality is, jeffrey isn't accepting the — okay. the reality is, jeffrey isn't accepting the fact _ okay. the reality is, jeffrey isn't accepting the fact that _ okay. the reality is, jeffrey isn't accepting the fact that every - okay. the reality is, jeffrey isn't i accepting the fact that every action has a _ accepting the fact that every action has a consequence. jeffrey backed brexit. _ has a consequence. jeffrey backed brexit, nigel fara has backed brexit. — brexit, nigel fara has backed brexit, it's a funny group of people that get— brexit, it's a funny group of people that get together to back brexit to the detriment of the people in northern ireland for that now we had the opportunity to solve brexit, jeffrey— the opportunity to solve brexit, jeffrey voted against it. then we had the —

jeffrey voted against it. then we had the protocol, jeffrey voted against — had the protocol, jeffrey voted against it. but your actions have led to— against it. but your actions have led to the — against it. but your actions have led to the protocol. now are trying to deal— led to the protocol. now are trying to deal with... let me finish a sentence. _ to deal with... let me finish a sentence. we are now trying to deal with the _ sentence. we are now trying to deal with the chaos that's been created by your— with the chaos that's been created by your brexit, by the brexit that his divorce — by your brexit, by the brexit that his divorce and the people of northern— his divorce and the people of northern ireland. the protocol is a pretty— northern ireland. the protocol is a pretty good opportunity for us to create _ pretty good opportunity for us to create jobs in northern ireland, would _ create jobs in northern ireland, would only embrace it. you want to keep— would only embrace it. you want to keep claiming to feed instead of victory. — keep claiming to feed instead of victory. i— keep claiming to feed instead of victory, i think we need to sit down again. _ victory, i think we need to sit down again. we _ victory, i think we need to sit down again, we talk about those issues if you want— again, we talk about those issues if you want jeffrey, again, we talk about those issues if you wantjeffrey, but again, we talk about those issues if you want jeffrey, but staying at a government is not going to solve one single _ government is not going to solve one single issue _ government is not going to solve one single issue that you have with the protocol. _ single issue that you have with the protocol. |t— single issue that you have with the rotocol. . single issue that you have with the rotocol. , ., �* protocol. it 'ust won't. let me brina in protocol. it 'ust won't. let me bring in he’— protocol. itjust won't. let me bring in the audience. - protocol. itjust won't. let me bring in the audience. i'd - protocol. itjust won't. let me bring in the audience. i'd like| protocol. itjust won't. let me i bring in the audience. i'd like to challenae bring in the audience. i'd like to challenge the _ bring in the audience. i'd like to challenge the assertion - bring in the audience. i'd like to challenge the assertion that - bring in the audience. i'd like to challenge the assertion that the border— challenge the assertion that the border pole _ challenge the assertion that the border pole makes _ challenge the assertion that the border pole makes second - challenge the assertion that the border pole makes second class citizens. — border pole makes second class citizens. i— border pole makes second class citizens, i think— border pole makes second class citizens, i think that's _ border pole makes second class citizens, i think that's quite - citizens, i think that's quite ridiculous— citizens, i think that's quite ridiculous that _ citizens, i think that's quite ridiculous that unionists - citizens, i think that's quite| ridiculous that unionists are claiming _ ridiculous that unionists are claiming to— ridiculous that unionists are claiming to be _ ridiculous that unionists arej claiming to be second—class ridiculous that unionists are - claiming to be second—class citizens given— claiming to be second—class citizens given the _ claiming to be second—class citizens given the history— claiming to be second—class citizens given the history of _ claiming to be second—class citizens given the history of northern - given the history of northern ireiand — given the history of northern ireiand as _ given the history of northern ireiand as a _ given the history of northern ireland as a country. - ireland as a country. applause. -

ireland as a country. applause.- ireland as a country. applause. g , ., i applause. my point is that we've heard tonight _ applause. my point is that we've heard tonight from _ applause. my point is that we've heard tonight from other - heard tonight from other audience members — heard tonight from other audience members that— heard tonight from other audience members that people _ heard tonight from other audience members that people on - heard tonight from other audience members that people on the - heard tonight from other audience i members that people on the border need the _ members that people on the border need the protocol. _ members that people on the border need the protocol. i— members that people on the border need the protocol. i will— members that people on the border need the protocol. i will say- members that people on the border need the protocol. i will say yes, i need the protocol. i will say yes, there _ need the protocol. i will say yes, there are — need the protocol. i will say yes, there are problems— need the protocol. i will say yes, there are problems in— need the protocol. i will say yes, there are problems in terms- need the protocol. i will say yes, there are problems in terms of. need the protocol. i will say yes, - there are problems in terms of trade and customs — there are problems in terms of trade and customs across _ there are problems in terms of trade and customs across the _ there are problems in terms of trade and customs across the border, - and customs across the border, across— and customs across the border, across the — and customs across the border, across the irish _ and customs across the border, across the irish sea. _ and customs across the border, across the irish sea. but - and customs across the border, across the irish sea. but what i and customs across the border, i across the irish sea. but what we need _ across the irish sea. but what we need to— across the irish sea. but what we need to do— across the irish sea. but what we need to do is— across the irish sea. but what we need to do is streamline - across the irish sea. but what we need to do is streamline the - across the irish sea. but what we i need to do is streamline the checks across— need to do is streamline the checks across the — need to do is streamline the checks across the irish _ need to do is streamline the checks across the irish sea _ need to do is streamline the checks across the irish sea so _ need to do is streamline the checks across the irish sea so that - need to do is streamline the checks across the irish sea so that goods i across the irish sea so that goods can travel— across the irish sea so that goods can travel fairly— across the irish sea so that goods can travel fairly between - across the irish sea so that goods| can travel fairly between northern ireiand _ can travel fairly between northern ireland and great— can travel fairly between northern ireland and great britain- can travel fairly between northern ireland and great britain but- can travel fairly between northern ireland and great britain but alsol ireland and great britain but also keep— ireland and great britain but also keep the — ireland and great britain but also keep the border— ireland and great britain but also keep the border on _ ireland and great britain but also keep the border on the _ ireland and great britain but also keep the border on the island - keep the border on the island nonexistent _ keep the border on the island nonexistent as— keep the border on the island nonexistent as it _ keep the border on the island nonexistent as it is _ keep the border on the island nonexistent as it is laid - keep the border on the island nonexistent as it is laid out i keep the border on the islandj nonexistent as it is laid out in keep the border on the island - nonexistent as it is laid out in the good _ nonexistent as it is laid out in the good friday— nonexistent as it is laid out in the good friday agreement.- nonexistent as it is laid out in the good friday agreement. okay. anybody at the different — good friday agreement. okay. anybody at the different view _ good friday agreement. okay. anybody at the different view on the _ at the different view on the border pole? at the different view on the border ole? ., at the different view on the border tole? ., . ., ., at the different view on the border ole? ., .. ., ., pole? how can it northern ireland olitician pole? how can it northern ireland politician not _ pole? how can it northern ireland politician not oppose _ pole? how can it northern ireland politician not oppose the - pole? how can it northern ireland politician not oppose the protocol| politician not oppose the protocol when _ politician not oppose the protocol when it _ politician not oppose the protocol when it has since the beginning of 2021 fort — when it has since the beginning of 2021 fort northern ireland, a status that makes— 2021 fort northern ireland, a status that makes the nations definition of a non—self—governing territory, a colony— a non—self—governing territory, a colony that— a non—self—governing territory, a colony that involves laws in 300

areas _ colony that involves laws in 300 areas being wrested from northern ireiand _ areas being wrested from northern ireiand to — areas being wrested from northern ireland to another policy which northern— ireland to another policy which northern ireland has no representation, how can any politician _ representation, how can any politician let that happen without the interaction clearly communicated in the _ the interaction clearly communicated in the fact— the interaction clearly communicated in the fact that they fall asleep at the wheel? applause. 0n the issue of borders. on the issue of borders. it wasn't an stl p aggregation _ on the issue of borders. it wasn't an stl p aggregation minister- on the issue of borders. it wasn'tl an stl p aggregation minister that billed the board or any ever see, that build the border in the united kingdom, it was a dp minister who spent the administering the border there. i did the bu p who those wanted a leg up by dividing our country? i’m wanted a leg up by dividing our count?�* . . , wanted a leg up by dividing our count?�* ., , _ ., wanted a leg up by dividing our count?�* ., .,, wanted a leg up by dividing our count?�* , ., country? i'm happy to answer that cuestion. country? i'm happy to answer that question- the _ country? i'm happy to answer that question. the fact _ country? i'm happy to answer that question. the fact is, _ country? i'm happy to answer that question. the fact is, it _ country? i'm happy to answer that question. the fact is, it was - country? i'm happy to answer that question. the fact is, it was the i country? i'm happy to answer that| question. the fact is, it was the uk department— question. the fact is, it was the uk department called defra who put the infrastructure in place because the agriculture ministry northern ireiand — agriculture ministry northern ireland refused to do so in order his officials not to do it. that infrastructure is temporary, we have refused _ infrastructure is temporary, we have refused to— infrastructure is temporary, we have refused to put in place any permanent infrastructure at any of

the parts — permanent infrastructure at any of the parts in — permanent infrastructure at any of the parts in northern ireland linked to the _ the parts in northern ireland linked to the protocol. the temporary infrastructure there was put in place — infrastructure there was put in place by— infrastructure there was put in place by defra, the english department over the heads of the department of agriculture in northern ireland, and as you know there _ northern ireland, and as you know there is— northern ireland, and as you know there is a — northern ireland, and as you know there is a court case of the moment because _ there is a court case of the moment because there is a challenge to the direction _ because there is a challenge to the direction that was given by the agriculture minister for all checks to stop. _ agriculture minister for all checks to stop. we agriculture minister for all checks to sto -. ~ . agriculture minister for all checks to sto i _ . ., ., agriculture minister for all checks tosto.~ . . . agriculture minister for all checks tosto.~ . . , ., to stop. we had a number of olitical to stop. we had a number of political stance _ to stop. we had a number of political stance from - to stop. we had a number of political stance from the - to stop. we had a number of| political stance from the dup to stop. we had a number of. political stance from the dup to give pretence that they were not bringing in the infrastructure that was required when in fact they had to bring in legally and they were instructed to do so by a british government minister, i might add, but let me say this, we wouldn't have a protocol that discussed tonight if we didn't have bags that, him as hard hardest possible break said, what you can take a lot of responsibly for delivering without the other partners, but what we need to do now is find ways to make the smooth implementation of the protocol, to make it work, to bring that certain instability, otherwise people can't plan for the future, let's find ways to make the protocol work. that's what the rest of us want. we still have defined mitigation against brexit. never the

parties here work together and we achieve the protocol, i'm glad we did, let's make it work. let achieve the protocol, i'm glad we did, let's make it work.— did, let's make it work. let me -ause did, let's make it work. let me pause there — did, let's make it work. let me pause there and _ did, let's make it work. let me pause there and move - did, let's make it work. let me pause there and move on - did, let's make it work. let me pause there and move on to i did, let's make it work. let me | pause there and move on to the did, let's make it work. let me - pause there and move on to the next question, maybe the protocol will come up again, it seems to be a favourite, our next question is fiona from belfast who works in the legal department of a bank. that evenina. legal department of a bank. that evening- we _ legal department of a bank. that evening. we are _ legal department of a bank. that evening. we are in _ legal department of a bank. that evening. we are in 2022, one of the wealthiest _ evening. we are in 2022, one of the wealthiest countries _ evening. we are in 2022, one of the wealthiest countries in _ evening. we are in 2022, one of the wealthiest countries in the - evening. we are in 2022, one of the wealthiest countries in the westernl wealthiest countries in the western world. _ wealthiest countries in the western world. yet— wealthiest countries in the western world. yet the _ wealthiest countries in the western world, yet the cost _ wealthiest countries in the western world, yet the cost of— wealthiest countries in the western world, yet the cost of has - wealthiest countries in the western world, yet the cost of has gone - world, yet the cost of has gone beyond — world, yet the cost of has gone beyond for _ world, yet the cost of has gone beyond for working—class - world, yet the cost of has gone i beyond for working—class people. many _ beyond for working—class people. many can't — beyond for working—class people. many can't afford _ beyond for working—class people. many can't afford either, - beyond for working—class people. many can't afford either, so - beyond for working—class people. many can't afford either, so what| beyond for working—class people. i many can't afford either, so what is your party— many can't afford either, so what is your party pledged _ many can't afford either, so what is your party pledged to _ many can't afford either, so what is your party pledged to do _ many can't afford either, so what is your party pledged to do to - many can't afford either, so what is your party pledged to do to tackle i your party pledged to do to tackle this urgent— your party pledged to do to tackle this urgent issue _ your party pledged to do to tackle this urgent issue specifically? - this urgent issue specifically? specifically. _ this urgent issue specifically? specifically-— this urgent issue specifically? specifically. you're absolutely ri . ht. specifically. you're absolutely right- what's _ specifically. you're absolutely right. what's going _ specifically. you're absolutely right. what's going on - specifically. you're absolutely right. what's going on in - right. what's going on in communities across the north right now is scandalous, the number of the banks that people are going to, people are going to have to work all day long in order to go to a food bank and have to decide whether they can turn their heating on. i think it's scandalous, and then we see that bp, for example, are making

billions and billions of pounds in profits. it's immoral i'll stop and think we need to do something about it. there is £300 million in a stormont bank account that cannot be spent because, again, the dup walked out of government. we would put £200 and everybody�*s packets, we paid £500 in peoples pockets here on benefits. i extend the free school meals programme to make sure the kids can get fed a hot meal at home. we get 30 hours free childcare to people who are trying to get out to work, none of that is going to be enough. i think the british government need to do a windfall tax on those companies who are taking us all for a ride in my view and we need to cap their profits. there's lots of things that need to be done. yet mentioned things that are westmont —— westminster�*s domain, but as far as stormont, will it cost it? ., �* , but as far as stormont, will it cost it? ., �*,':::: ., but as far as stormont, will it cost it? .,�*,':::: ., it? that's 100 million in the past,

and i it? that's100 million in the past, and i think— it? that's100 million in the past, and i think that _ it? that's100 million in the past, and i think that we _ it? that's100 million in the past, and i think that we can _ it? that's100 million in the past, and i think that we can look - and i think that we can look at making free school meals universal, i know there is a campaign for that. we need to get serious about this. the reality is, though, and we can talk about it all night, we can write big long manifestos. we want to be able to do one single thing if we don't have a government next week. that's what that state, and if week. that's what that state, and if we don't have a government, the next outcome is a borisjohnson and jacob rees mike and the rest of them will be running northern ireland and they do not care about working—class people in northern ireland or anywhere else. the the people in northern ireland or anywhere else. the the situation is dire. it's anywhere else. the the situation is dire- it's gone _ anywhere else. the the situation is dire. it's gone well _ anywhere else. the the situation is dire. it's gone well beyond - dire. it's gone well beyond politicians just sitting here and saying — politicians just sitting here and saying we have a problem. there are people _ saying we have a problem. there are people out _ saying we have a problem. there are people out there who are really suffering, and i mean genuinely suffering. — suffering, and i mean genuinely suffering, and i mean genuinely suffering, and we cannot sit here and do _ suffering, and we cannot sit here and do nothing. we have to hold people _ and do nothing. we have to hold people to — and do nothing. we have to hold people to account. at £300 million could _ people to account. at £300 million could have — people to account. at £300 million could have been used. it wouldn't have _ could have been used. it wouldn't have got— could have been used. it wouldn't have got us— could have been used. it wouldn't have got us through everything, it would _ have got us through everything, it would have been a very short term measure. — would have been a very short term measure, but it could've been used to help _ measure, but it could've been used to help people most in need. we didn't—

to help people most in need. we didn't use — to help people most in need. we didn't use it. even if we put the executive — didn't use it. even if we put the executive up for at dayjust to pass that legislation, to get that out there. — that legislation, to get that out there. we — that legislation, to get that out there, we could have done something, but we _ there, we could have done something, but we didn't. that is a real failing. _ but we didn't. that is a real failing. people need to own that feeling — failing. people need to own that feeling that we didn't have an executive to be able to spend that money. _ executive to be able to spend that money. so — executive to be able to spend that money. so it's sitting in a bank account— money. so it's sitting in a bank account while people are cold and people _ account while people are cold and people are hungry. people will die cold and _ people are hungry. people will die cold and die hungry. we have been calling _ cold and die hungry. we have been calling for— cold and die hungry. we have been calling for a — cold and die hungry. we have been calling for a fuel poverty task force — calling for a fuel poverty task force since november last year, andy allen has— force since november last year, andy allen has been doing that. we really need to— allen has been doing that. we really need to focus on that so we can find out where _ need to focus on that so we can find out where the problems are and start identifying _ out where the problems are and start identifying it. we need to have the warm _ identifying it. we need to have the warm home discount scheme, which they have _ warm home discount scheme, which they have in — warm home discount scheme, which they have in england, £150 a year to they have in england, £150 a year to the most _ they have in england, £150 a year to the most vulnerable households. that needs— the most vulnerable households. that needs to _ the most vulnerable households. that needs to be _ the most vulnerable households. that needs to be put in place. but we have _ needs to be put in place. but we have these — needs to be put in place. but we have these other levers here, and we have these other levers here, and we have to _ have these other levers here, and we have to start — have these other levers here, and we have to start lobbying westminster, because _ have to start lobbying westminster, because the 5% vat on home heating oil can— because the 5% vat on home heating oil can be _ because the 5% vat on home heating oil can be taken away tomorrow by the uk _ oil can be taken away tomorrow by the uk government, and they need to do exactly— the uk government, and they need to do exactly that, no one can say to me. _ do exactly that, no one can say to me. "well. — do exactly that, no one can say to

me, "well, they can't because of the protocol. " _ me, "well, they can't because of the protocol." 0ther me, "well, they can't because of the protocol." other countries in the you are — protocol." other countries in the you are doing exactly that, the uk government could do exactly that, and if— government could do exactly that, and if i _ government could do exactly that, and if i can. — government could do exactly that, and if i can, i'm sorry, the cost of food _ and if i can, i'm sorry, the cost of food that— and if i can, i'm sorry, the cost of food that is— and if i can, i'm sorry, the cost of food that is really causing the issue — food that is really causing the issue here is because the cost of fuel going — issue here is because the cost of fuel going into the vehicles that is transporting that food. that's why food is _ transporting that food. that's why food is rising, so we need to get the price — food is rising, so we need to get the price of— food is rising, so we need to get the price of fuel down or those essential— the price of fuel down or those essential users such as colliers. if we can— essential users such as colliers. if we can lower that down, then what they are _ we can lower that down, then what they are transporting, the cost of that will— they are transporting, the cost of that will lower also. gk, they are transporting, the cost of that will lower also. ok, michelle, we have heard _ that will lower also. ok, michelle, we have heard a _ that will lower also. ok, michelle, we have heard a number- that will lower also. ok, michelle, we have heard a number of- that will lower also. ok, michelle, | we have heard a number of policies there can be he also has one about immediately spending that 300 billion, but anything else more ambitious in terms of raising money to deal with these long—term problems? to deal with these long-term problems?— to deal with these long-term roblems? , ., ., problems? they are long-term problems. _ problems? they are long-term problems. but _ problems? they are long-term problems, but they _ problems? they are long-term problems, but they are - problems? they are long-term i problems, but they are immediate problems, but they are immediate problems, and the cost of living that was referred to is what is pressing most on people. it isn't just the more vulnerable in society, but people who are out in the house and still not being able to make their bills. i think that's a struggle we have faced. you talk about working _ struggle we have faced. you talk about working people, _ struggle we have faced. you talk about working people, for - struggle we have faced. you talk i about working people, for instance,

northern ireland has 25% of the workforce in the public sector, and now that is something stormont has power over. what will you do about public sector workers wages, we are talking nurses, policemen, civil servants, are they going to get an inflation equal pay increase? that would mean a pay increase of 9%. let me come back to that, but i think to answer the plaint around what we would do,... i’m answer the plaint around what we would do.---_ would do,... i'm asking if that is what you — would do,... i'm asking if that is what you do? — would do,... i'm asking if that is what you do? i— would do,... i'm asking if that is what you do? i will— would do,... i'm asking if that is what you do? i will come - would do,... i'm asking if that is what you do? i will come back i would do,... i'm asking if that is| what you do? i will come back to that. in terms _ what you do? i will come back to that. in terms of— what you do? i will come back to that. in terms of the _ what you do? i will come back to that. in terms of the here - what you do? i will come back to that. in terms of the here and i what you do? i will come back to i that. in terms of the here and now, £230 and to every household is what we propose and conor murphy put that forward is the finance minister. that's only one thing alongside all of the other schemes that we have brought forward, but absolutely right, there are a lot of these things that are not within the gift of the attempt simply, they are the powers that stelae in westminster, can ensure that there is no one in the tory party about how they are going to heat their home or put food on the table, they have failed to ask that... like have you thought about sub that connect to sector pay to have a policy on it yet? we have

to have a policy on it yet? we have to take all of that on board. there is no doubt if you look at the staff and health service who had went above and beyond the absolutely amazing throughout this pandemic, and across other public services, if we are going to look after those people who look after us, we must invest in them. they are the public service assets, if you like. jeffery, you're getting some flack for this 300 billion that is sitting there that cannot be spent. this the consequence of from withdrawing from government. we consequence of from withdrawing from covernment. ~ ., �* consequence of from withdrawing from covernment. , ., government. we don't accept that it's mone government. we don't accept that its money that — government. we don't accept that it's money that can't _ government. we don't accept that it's money that can't be _ government. we don't accept that it's money that can't be spent. i it's money that can't be spent. elien— it's money that can't be spent. ellen murphy has allocated an additional £400 million to the health— additional £400 million to the health service without an executive being _ health service without an executive being in _ health service without an executive being in place. we don't agree that it is impossible to do this.- it is impossible to do this. naomi will refer to _ it is impossible to do this. naomi will refer to her _ it is impossible to do this. naomi will refer to her legal _ it is impossible to do this. naomi will refer to her legal advice. - it is impossible to do this. naomi will refer to her legal advice. we | will refer to her legal advice. we are the only _ will refer to her legal advice. we are the only party on the 14th of march _ are the only party on the 14th of march writing to all of my colleagues around this table put forward — colleagues around this table put forward from proposals to spend that 300. ., , , forward from proposals to spend that 300. ., . . there forward from proposals to spend that 300-_ there is _ forward from proposals to spend that

300._ there is the - forward from proposals to spend thatj 300._ there is the e-mail, 300. nonsense. there is the e-mail, naomi. it definitely _ 300. nonsense. there is the e-mail, naomi. it definitely sent _ 300. nonsense. there is the e-mail, naomi. it definitely sent the - naomi. it definitely sent the e-mail, naomi. it definitely sent the e-mail. but _ naomi. it definitely sent the e-mail, but you _ naomi. it definitely sent the e-mail, but you had - naomi. it definitely sent the e-mail, but you had been i naomi. it definitely sent the - e-mail, but you had been talking e—mail, but you had been talking about— e—mail, but you had been talking about this — e—mail, but you had been talking about this for— e—mail, but you had been talking about this for months. _ e—mail, but you had been talking about this for months. tit - e-mail, but you had been talking about this for months.— e-mail, but you had been talking about this for months. at the heart of this is the _ about this for months. at the heart of this is the increase _ about this for months. at the heart of this is the increase in _ about this for months. at the heart of this is the increase in the - of this is the increase in the cost of this is the increase in the cost of food. let me quote you the figures that i mentioned earlier, because i think this is important. as a direct result of the increased cost of bringing food products from great britain and northern ireland due to the protocol to consumers and northern ireland are paying on average 4% more per item than they are in great britain at the moment, and when you look at dairy products, that rises to 8%, and when you look at chilled convenience goods, it rises to 19% more for those products than they are paying in great britain. that's the protocol. that's why it needs to be... britain. that's the protocol. that's why it needs to be. . ._ britain. that's the protocol. that's why it needs to be... crosstalk. i don't have — why it needs to be... crosstalk. i don't have those _ why it needs to be... crosstalk. i don't have those statistics - why it needs to be... crosstalk. i don't have those statistics in - why it needs to be... crosstalk. i don't have those statistics in front. don't have those statistics in front of me, butjust so people can check, what is the source of that? p5p what is the source of that? pgp anel what is the source of that? pgp panel average _ what is the source of that? pgp panel average price _ what is the source of that? mi panel average price tracker what is the source of that? i

because alias, demonstrates the additional costs are linked to the increase... if additional costs are linked to the increase- - -_ increase... if you are quoting it, can ou increase... if you are quoting it, can you be _ increase. .. if you are quoting it, can you be clear— increase... if you are quoting it, can you be clear that _ increase... if you are quoting it, can you be clear that it - increase... if you are quoting it, can you be clear that it says... l increase... if you are quoting it, | can you be clear that it says... it is clear. can you be clear that it says... it is clear- i _ can you be clear that it says... it is clear. i am _ can you be clear that it says... it is clear. i am not aware - can you be clear that it says... it is clear. i am not aware of - can you be clear that it says... it is clear. i am not aware of them | can you be clear that it says... it i is clear. i am not aware of them on it. i am is clear. i am not aware of them on it- i am clear- _ is clear. i am not aware of them on it. i am clear. go _ is clear. i am not aware of them on it. i am clear. go and _ is clear. i am not aware of them on it. i am clear. go and check - is clear. i am not aware of them on it. i am clear. go and check it - is clear. i am not aware of them on it. i am clear. go and check it out l it. i am clear. go and check it out if ou it. i am clear. go and check it out if you wish. _ it. i am clear. go and check it out if you wish, but _ it. i am clear. go and check it out if you wish, but i _ it. i am clear. go and check it out if you wish, but i am _ it. i am clear. go and check it out if you wish, but i am clear - it. i am clear. go and check it out if you wish, but i am clear that i it. i am clear. go and check it out| if you wish, but i am clear that the additional cost, what is the difference between the cost of food in great britain and the cost of it in great britain and the cost of it in northern ireland... it’s in great britain and the cost of it in northern ireland...— in northern ireland... it's about the fuel- _ in northern ireland... it's about the fuel. delays _ in northern ireland... it's about the fuel. delays in _ in northern ireland... it's about the fuel. delays in transporting| the fuel. delays in transporting noods the fuel. delays in transporting goods because _ the fuel. delays in transporting goods because of _ the fuel. delays in transporting goods because of those - the fuel. delays in transporting l goods because of those customs checks commence the additional paperwork, it's the additional staff. as a result of the protocol. it's driving up the cost of living in northern ireland. i it's driving up the cost of living in northern ireland.— it's driving up the cost of living in northern ireland. i really hope someone is _ in northern ireland. i really hope someone is doing _ in northern ireland. i really hope someone is doing a _ in northern ireland. i really hope someone is doing a fact - in northern ireland. i really hope someone is doing a fact check i in northern ireland. i really hopei someone is doing a fact check on some _ someone is doing a fact check on some of— someone is doing a fact check on some of what we are hearing this evening _ some of what we are hearing this evening because first of alljaffe did send — evening because first of alljaffe did send an e—mail, i can confirm that _ did send an e—mail, i can confirm that he — did send an e—mail, i can confirm that he is— did send an e—mail, i can confirm that. he is not the only party that has come — that. he is not the only party that has come forward with proposals around _ has come forward with proposals around the cost of living crisis, that _ around the cost of living crisis, that is— around the cost of living crisis, that is false. in fact all of the parties — that is false. in fact all of the parties brought forward proposals on

the cost _ parties brought forward proposals on the cost of— parties brought forward proposals on the cost of living crisis but the reality— the cost of living crisis but the reality was we couldn't implement them, _ reality was we couldn't implement them, becausejeffrey reality was we couldn't implement them, because jeffrey withdrew their first minister because we didn't have _ first minister because we didn't have an — first minister because we didn't have an executive to take new or novel _ have an executive to take new or novel crosscutting decisions. that is the _ novel crosscutting decisions. that is the law — novel crosscutting decisions. that is the law. notjeffrey might novel crosscutting decisions. that is the law. not jeffrey might get that he — is the law. not jeffrey might get that he can simply stand in front of the court _ that he can simply stand in front of the court and deny that it exists, but that— the court and deny that it exists, but that isn't how the law works. he had taken _ but that isn't how the law works. he had taken advice as ministers as to how far— had taken advice as ministers as to how far we — had taken advice as ministers as to how far we can make decisions. we can takem — how far we can make decisions. we can take... chemical compound murphy was able _ can take... chemical compound murphy was able to— can take... chemical compound murphy was able to allocate... to the health— was able to allocate... to the health service type do you have had quite _ health service type do you have had quite a _ health service type do you have had quite a lot _ health service type do you have had quite a lot of time, jeffery, i would — quite a lot of time, jeffery, i would like to make my point, if that is ok _ would like to make my point, if that is ok you _ would like to make my point, if that is ok. you are allowed to allocate funding _ is ok. you are allowed to allocate funding two things are already doing but you _ funding two things are already doing but you cannot do new things, novel things _ but you cannot do new things, novel things to— but you cannot do new things, novel thins. ., ., .., ., things. to return to the core of the question--- — question... when it comes to things around cost of _ question... when it comes to things around cost of living, _ question... when it comes to things around cost of living, they _ question... when it comes to things around cost of living, they have - around cost of living, they have to be around cost of living, they have to he christ _ around cost of living, they have to be christ coming, because there is no one _ be christ coming, because there is no one department that holds all of the answers to this, so for a start, the answers to this, so for a start, the uk government needs to step in a windfall— the uk government needs to step in a windfall tax _ the uk government needs to step in a windfall tax for the expression of

profits _ windfall tax for the expression of profits at — windfall tax for the expression of profits at some energy companies are nraking _ profits at some energy companies are making. that needs to be dealt with, there _ making. that needs to be dealt with, there is— making. that needs to be dealt with, there is also— making. that needs to be dealt with, there is also the issue of increasing national insurance contribution, i think that should be resurfaced — contribution, i think that should be resurfaced and was a poor decision. we believe — resurfaced and was a poor decision. we believe a homemade voucher scheme would go _ we believe a homemade voucher scheme would go a _ we believe a homemade voucher scheme would go a long way to helping people — would go a long way to helping people actually be able to keep warnt — people actually be able to keep warm. we have proposed a child's payment — warm. we have proposed a child's payment of— warm. we have proposed a child's payment of £20 per week per child for those _ payment of £20 per week per child for those children who are below school _ for those children who are below school age and in most need. we also propose _ school age and in most need. we also propose that free school meals should — propose that free school meals should be extended and the longer term project from the thing that i think it's — term project from the thing that i think it's really important as we are proposing, for example, retrofitting homes with insulation so that— retrofitting homes with insulation so that we can actually make people's— so that we can actually make people's comes warmer and reduce their energy bills long—term. he talked _ their energy bills long—term. he talked about investment in renewable.— talked about investment in renewable. . , renewable. that is a good list come i don't renewable. that is a good list come i don't know — renewable. that is a good list come i don't know if— renewable. that is a good list come i don't know if we _ renewable. that is a good list come i don't know if we can _ renewable. that is a good list come i don't know if we can get _ renewable. that is a good list come i don't know if we can get that - renewable. that is a good list come i don't know if we can get that we i i don't know if we can get that we have secure energy, because much of what is _ have secure energy, because much of what is pushing up the cost of energy and the cost of food is the fact that — energy and the cost of food is the fact that we have a work going on in ukraine, _ fact that we have a work going on in ukraine, and— fact that we have a work going on in ukraine, and that's impacting directly _ ukraine, and that's impacting directl . ukraine, and that's impacting directl. ., ., . directly. back to the audience here and seeinr directly. back to the audience here and seeing what _ directly. back to the audience here and seeing what other— directly. back to the audience here and seeing what other ideas -

directly. back to the audience here | and seeing what other ideas people have in the audience. friend really here, yes. irate have in the audience. friend really here, es. ~ . have in the audience. friend really here. yes-— have in the audience. friend really here, yes. we hearjeffery wanting to make property— here, yes. we hearjeffery wanting to make property into _ here, yes. we hearjeffery wanting to make property into a _ here, yes. we hearjeffery wanting to make property into a green - here, yes. we hearjeffery wanting to make property into a green and | to make property into a green and orange issue _ to make property into a green and orange issue. does _ to make property into a green and orange issue. does he _ to make property into a green and orange issue. does he accept - to make property into a green and orange issue. does he accept this| orange issue. does he accept this as i orange issue. does he accept this as i people _ orange issue. does he accept this as i people have — orange issue. does he accept this as i people have lost _ orange issue. does he accept this as i people have lost interest— orange issue. does he accept this as i people have lost interest in- i people have lost interest in politics — i people have lost interest in politics and _ i people have lost interest in politics and why _ i people have lost interest in politics and why people - i people have lost interest in politics and why people have i people have lost interest in- politics and why people have lost faith in _ politics and why people have lost faith in the — politics and why people have lost faith in the stormont _ politics and why people have lost faith in the stormont executive, i faith in the stormont executive, because — faith in the stormont executive, because hes— faith in the stormont executive, because he's managed - faith in the stormont executive, because he's managed to - faith in the stormont executive, because he's managed to take i faith in the stormont executive, . because he's managed to take the cost of— because he's managed to take the cost of living — because he's managed to take the cost of living crisis _ because he's managed to take the cost of living crisis and _ because he's managed to take the cost of living crisis and make - cost of living crisis and make it green — cost of living crisis and make it green and _ cost of living crisis and make it green and orange. _ cost of living crisis and make it green and orange. left- cost of living crisis and make it green and orange.— cost of living crisis and make it green and orange. let me bring in others. green and orange. let me bring in others- anybody — green and orange. let me bring in others. anybody else _ green and orange. let me bring in others. anybody else want - green and orange. let me bring in others. anybody else want to - green and orange. let me bring in | others. anybody else want to come in? very back row they are. i others. anybody else want to come in? very back row they are.- in? very back row they are. i think what so much _ in? very back row they are. i think what so much of _ in? very back row they are. i think what so much of this _ in? very back row they are. i think what so much of this is _ what so much of this is demonstrating is the need to reform the institutions because as long as one party can hold everyone else to ransom, we want to solve any of theseissues ransom, we want to solve any of these issues whether it isjeffrey on the protocol or anyone else on any other issue, we need to recognise the need for reform of the institutions. you recognise the need for reform of the institutions-— institutions. you are being accused of holdin: institutions. you are being accused of holding everyone to _ institutions. you are being accused of holding everyone to ransom... l institutions. you are being accused i of holding everyone to ransom... our ro osals of holding everyone to ransom... our proposals to — of holding everyone to ransom... 0ur proposals to support working families— proposals to support working families in northern ireland as for everyone — families in northern ireland as for everyone. the cost of living affects everyone — everyone. the cost of living affects everyone. the cost of living affects everyone. the harm this protocol is doing _ everyone. the harm this protocol is doing to _ everyone. the harm this protocol is doing to northern ireland affects everyone — doing to northern ireland affects everyone regardless of your

political _ everyone regardless of your political perspective. that is why instead — political perspective. that is why instead of— political perspective. that is why instead of burying our heads in the sand and _ instead of burying our heads in the sand and pretending there isn't a problem. — sand and pretending there isn't a problem, let's deal with the problem immediately so that we can have sustainable political institutions and move forward together. that is what we _ and move forward together. that is what we want. and move forward together. that is what we want-— what we want. anybody in the audience. _ what we want. anybody in the audience, let _ what we want. anybody in the audience, let me _ what we want. anybody in the audience, let me just - what we want. anybody in the audience, let me just clear i what we want. anybody in the l audience, let me just clear this what we want. anybody in the - audience, let me just clear this up. anybody in the audience agree with jeffery donaldson's points on this because make a lot of people are quizzing him on this. did anybody want to offer him some support this one? , , , one? yes, sir. it is incontrovertibly i one? yes, sir. it is. incontrovertibly true one? yes, sir. it is - incontrovertibly true that the protocol is contributing towards the cost of living crisis. you can't separate the two things. have you not the separate the two things. have you got the statistics? _ separate the two things. have you got the statistics? i'm _ separate the two things. have you got the statistics? i'm talking - got the statistics? i'm talking about the extent _ got the statistics? i'm talking about the extent to _ got the statistics? i'm talking about the extent to which - got the statistics? i'm talking about the extent to which it l got the statistics? i'm talking | about the extent to which it is, got the statistics? i'm talking - about the extent to which it is, but i think i think incredibly true that is contributing towards economists can debate about the extent to which it is an issue, but it certainly isn't helping, and it is contriving towards a crisis that we are facing at the moment. {lilla towards a crisis that we are facing at the moment.— towards a crisis that we are facing at the moment. 0k, thank you very much for that. _

at the moment. 0k, thank you very much for that. it _ at the moment. 0k, thank you very much for that. it is _ at the moment. 0k, thank you very much for that. it is contributed, - much for that. it is contributed, absolutely. _ much for that. it is contributed, absolutely, but _ much for that. it is contributed, absolutely, but so _ much for that. it is contributed, absolutely, but so is _ much for that. it is contributed, absolutely, but so is war - much for that. it is contributed, absolutely, but so is war in - absolutely, but so is war in ukraine, _ absolutely, but so is war in ukraine, so is brags brexit, so our whole _ ukraine, so is brags brexit, so our whole multitude of other things contribute into it, but wait you cannot — contribute into it, but wait you cannot do _ contribute into it, but wait you cannot do is take yourself in a corner— cannot do is take yourself in a corner and _ cannot do is take yourself in a corner and put your fingers in the airto— corner and put your fingers in the air to ignore _ corner and put your fingers in the air to ignore it. corner and put your fingers in the airto ignore it. we need corner and put your fingers in the air to ignore it. we need to get together, — air to ignore it. we need to get together, sit together and come up with ways _ together, sit together and come up with ways to fix this problem. that is not _ with ways to fix this problem. that is not what — with ways to fix this problem. that is not what is happening. i with ways to fix this problem. that is not what is happening.— is not what is happening. i have to call time on _ is not what is happening. i have to call time on it _ is not what is happening. i have to call time on it that, _ is not what is happening. i have to call time on it that, once - is not what is happening. i have to call time on it that, once again, i call time on it that, once again, we have ended up talking about the protocol. i think the question was originally about the cost of living. thank you. lou. thank you. how would the party leaders implement _ lou. thank you. how would the party leaders implement their _ lou. thank you. how would the party leaders implement their plans - lou. thank you. how would the party leaders implement their plans with i leaders implement their plans with the health service when the government appeared to be privatising?— government appeared to be ”rivatisin? �* ., privatising? doug beattie your com an privatising? doug beattie your company has _ privatising? doug beattie your company has a _ privatising? doug beattie your company has a portfolio - privatising? doug beattie your company has a portfolio of - privatising? doug beattie yourj company has a portfolio of the privatising? doug beattie your- company has a portfolio of the last couple years what would you do? i get a save as we have held it and we sidestepped it and we said we would did take it. it robin stepped in there and robin swann has been asked

study health minister in the most difficult time you can imagine to deal with the underfunded health audit 28 service and also deal with covid. �* , , ,., covid. he's ended her his tenure so far on record _ covid. he's ended her his tenure so far on record waitlist _ covid. he's ended her his tenure so far on record waitlist 354,756 - covid. he's ended her his tenure so far on record waitlist 354,756 for i far on record waitlist 354,756 for first appointment, one in four waiting worsen anywhere else. you're actually rifles — waiting worsen anywhere else. you're actually rifles at _ waiting worsen anywhere else. you're actually rifles at what _ waiting worsen anywhere else. you're actually rifles at what were _ waiting worsen anywhere else. you're actually rifles at what were saying - actually rifles at what were saying about we are under invested in our health service and we reduce bed, when you do reduce do reduce budget reduced bed, when you'd reduce veggie reduce out. that's one of the biggest problem is we have and that's to stabilise work bars. i was talking to her nurse just the other day and she's only been a nurse for seven months and she's getting something like £14 an hour and she's working with an agency worker was on £50 an hour to the same job. working with an agency worker was on £50 an hour to the samejob. it working with an agency worker was on £50 an hour to the same job. it does make sense. we have to stabilise the workforce. . �* , ., ., make sense. we have to stabilise the workforce. . �* , . ., ., workforce. that's a we have to get on. on workforce. that's a we have to get on- on issues— workforce. that's a we have to get on. on issues like _ workforce. that's a we have to get on. on issues like that _ workforce. that's a we have to get on. on issues like that and - workforce. that's a we have to get| on. on issues like that and perhaps we have to recognise we do have the pandemic of the last couple years. but none of the big decisions have been taken none of the big reforms

that will perhaps help with the restructure forms are clearly there. they actually have. robert has published an elective care plan which is cost of 700 million pounds for five years with a piece but that in place was that what that means is when we get the funding, will we get the resourcing, the multiyear budget that means that we will have a seven day a week service was that what you get on tuesday in surgery is what you will get on a sunday. people may have to travel a little bit further but they may get seen in a more timely matter. he has put these things in place but he is a get the money to be able to do it alljust yet. it's fair, the plans they are, he's worked hard to do it but without a multiyear budget it's really hard to put this forward. because of the various problems at the assembly there isn't a three year budget and it seems to be having a particular impact on things colum eastwood like hell. what do you think you do? you talked before about making these hard choices doug beattie talks about. having to

travel further but you'll get better service etc. but it comes to closing a hospital in a constituency... ladhere a hospital in a constituency... were not talking — a hospital in a constituency... were not talking about _ a hospital in a constituency... were not talking about closing _ a hospital in a constituency... were not talking about closing hospitals. i think— not talking about closing hospitals. i think that's the problem in this conversation. we say were going to take this _ conversation. we say were going to take this off you and we don't tell him what we are put in place. we need _ him what we are put in place. we need to— him what we are put in place. we need to use — him what we are put in place. we need to use the health state that ekist— need to use the health state that exist or use it better. i don't mind travelling — exist or use it better. i don't mind travelling a — exist or use it better. i don't mind travelling a bit better to get an operation up and ready for for five years guaranteed to be get it. i think— years guaranteed to be get it. i think we — years guaranteed to be get it. i think we all love the nhs, we particularly love the people working it, particularly love the people working it. we _ particularly love the people working it, we need to pay them properly, all of— it, we need to pay them properly, all of them — it, we need to pay them properly, all of them. but we also need to be careful to _ all of them. but we also need to be careful to get access to it. it's no good thing — careful to get access to it. it's no good thing it's free of people are going _ good thing it's free of people are going to the credit union to borrow money— going to the credit union to borrow money to— going to the credit union to borrow money to go private to get fairly simple _ money to go private to get fairly simple operations that they be waiting — simple operations that they be waiting for for five or six years. i know— waiting for for five or six years. i know so— waiting for for five or six years. i know so many people in that situation, _ know so many people in that situation, it's absolutely wrong. but it _ situation, it's absolutely wrong. but it takes courage for political leaders — but it takes courage for political leaders was aware prepared to come together— leaders was aware prepared to come together with other political leaders and do that. we also think we need _ leaders and do that. we also think we need to— leaders and do that. we also think we need to put in charge of transportation themselves with that there's— transportation themselves with that there's lots of things to do what we need _ there's lots of things to do what we need to— there's lots of things to do what we need to show commitment from the very top— need to show commitment from the very top of— need to show commitment from the very top of civil service and from

the political establishment. i'm also very— the political establishment. i'm also very concerned given the pandemic— also very concerned given the pandemic that we've just been through— pandemic that we've just been through and it is right that robin did a _ through and it is right that robin did a fantasticjob there, we are now faced — did a fantasticjob there, we are now faced with a pandemic of mental health— now faced with a pandemic of mental health that _ now faced with a pandemic of mental health that we need to deal with. one of— health that we need to deal with. one of things we need to deal with that we _ one of things we need to deal with that we think needs to deal with as a junior— that we think needs to deal with as a junior minister need to be applied to show— a junior minister need to be applied to show that we as politicians are committed to dealing with this crisis — committed to dealing with this crisis it— committed to dealing with this crisis it is— committed to dealing with this crisis. it is a crisis and its getting _ crisis. it is a crisis and its getting worse every single day. we are committed to that. the only way world _ are committed to that. the only way world do— are committed to that. the only way world do it. — are committed to that. the only way world do it. i— are committed to that. the only way world do it, ito keep saying it, is naomi _ world do it, ito keep saying it, is naomi long — world do it, ito keep saying it, is naomi long abby government next week _ naomi long abby government next week - _ naomi long abby government next week - i— naomi long abby government next week. ~ �* , naomi long abby government next week. ,, naomi long abby government next week. «i week. . i think it's crucialwe get started the _ week. . i think it's crucialwe get started the first _ week. . i think it's crucialwe get started the first opportunity - week. . i think it's crucialwe get started the first opportunity to i started the first opportunity to start _ started the first opportunity to start the — started the first opportunity to start the reform _ started the first opportunity to start the reform of _ started the first opportunity to start the reform of the - started the first opportunity to start the reform of the healthi start the reform of the health service — start the reform of the health service because _ start the reform of the health service because i— start the reform of the health service because i think- start the reform of the health service because i think with i start the reform of the health - service because i think with doug and collin— service because i think with doug and collin have _ service because i think with doug and collin have said _ service because i think with doug and collin have said is— service because i think with doug and collin have said is really- and collin have said is really important. _ and collin have said is really important, we _ and collin have said is really important, we have - and collin have said is really important, we have no- and collin have said is really important, we have no time| and collin have said is really. important, we have no time to and collin have said is really- important, we have no time to waste for the _ important, we have no time to waste for the people — important, we have no time to waste for the people are _ important, we have no time to waste for the people are languishing - important, we have no time to waste for the people are languishing away, | for the people are languishing away, some _ for the people are languishing away, some of— for the people are languishing away, some of the — for the people are languishing away, some of the longest _ for the people are languishing away, some of the longest waiting - for the people are languishing away, some of the longest waiting lists - some of the longest waiting lists and western— some of the longest waiting lists and western europe. _ some of the longest waiting lists and western europe. people - some of the longest waiting lists and western europe. people are| some of the longest waiting lists - and western europe. people are dying on waiting _ and western europe. people are dying on waiting lists — and western europe. people are dying on waiting lists and _ and western europe. people are dying on waiting lists and not _ and western europe. people are dying on waiting lists and not being - and western europe. people are dying on waiting lists and not being seen. i on waiting lists and not being seen. we essentially— on waiting lists and not being seen. we essentially have _ on waiting lists and not being seen. we essentially have in _ on waiting lists and not being seen. we essentially have in many- on waiting lists and not being seen. we essentially have in many parts i on waiting lists and not being seen. | we essentially have in many parts of the health— we essentially have in many parts of the health services _ we essentially have in many parts of the health services a _ we essentially have in many parts of the health services a reduction - we essentially have in many parts of the health services a reduction downj the health services a reduction down to a red _ the health services a reduction down to a red flag — the health services a reduction down to a red flag and _ the health services a reduction down to a red flag and a _ the health services a reduction down to a red flag and a blue _ the health services a reduction down to a red flag and a blue light- to a red flag and a blue light service — to a red flag and a blue light service were people - to a red flag and a blue light service were people who - to a red flag and a blue light. service were people who have to a red flag and a blue light- service were people who have chronic illness _ service were people who have chronic illness don't — service were people who have chronic illness don't get — service were people who have chronic illness don't get treated _ service were people who have chronic illness don't get treated at _ service were people who have chronic illness don't get treated at all - service were people who have chronic illness don't get treated at all and - illness don't get treated at all and where _ illness don't get treated at all and

where people _ illness don't get treated at all and where people are _ illness don't get treated at all and where people are saying - illness don't get treated at all and where people are saying notionali where people are saying notional health— where people are saying notional health service _ where people are saying notional health service rather _ where people are saying notional health service rather than - where people are saying notional. health service rather than national. it will— health service rather than national. it will take — health service rather than national. it will take difficult _ health service rather than national. it will take difficult decisions - health service rather than national. it will take difficult decisions and i it will take difficult decisions and everyone — it will take difficult decisions and everyone irrespective _ it will take difficult decisions and everyone irrespective of- it will take difficult decisions and everyone irrespective of takes i it will take difficult decisions and| everyone irrespective of takes on the health— everyone irrespective of takes on the health ministry— everyone irrespective of takes on the health ministry in _ everyone irrespective of takes on the health ministry in the - everyone irrespective of takes on the health ministry in the mat. everyone irrespective of takes on the health ministry in the mat to| the health ministry in the mat to ignite _ the health ministry in the mat to ignite next— the health ministry in the mat to ignite next mandate. _ the health ministry in the mat to ignite next mandate. i— the health ministry in the mat to ignite next mandate. i pledge i the health ministry in the mat to ignite next mandate. i pledge toj ignite next mandate. i pledge to support— ignite next mandate. i pledge to support them _ ignite next mandate. i pledge to support them in— ignite next mandate. i pledge to support them in making - ignite next mandate. i pledge to support them in making those i support them in making those difficult — support them in making those difficult decisions _ support them in making those difficult decisions because it i support them in making those| difficult decisions because it is support them in making those i difficult decisions because it is in my interest — difficult decisions because it is in my interest in _ difficult decisions because it is in my interest in your— difficult decisions because it is in my interest in your interests - difficult decisions because it is in my interest in your interests as i my interest in your interests as numbers— my interest in your interests as numbers of— my interest in your interests as numbers of the _ my interest in your interests as numbers of the public- my interest in your interests as numbers of the public that - my interest in your interests as numbers of the public that we i my interest in your interests as i numbers of the public that we get the health— numbers of the public that we get the health service _ numbers of the public that we get the health service right. - numbers of the public that we get the health service right.— the health service right. people have been _ the health service right. people have been saying _ the health service right. people have been saying that - the health service right. people have been saying that for- the health service right. people| have been saying that for years, where willing to take difficult decisions. , . �* , ., decisions. they haven't been doing it and i'm saying — decisions. they haven't been doing it and i'm saying we _ decisions. they haven't been doing it and i'm saying we will— decisions. they haven't been doing it and i'm saying we will do - decisions. they haven't been doing it and i'm saying we will do it. - decisions. they haven't been doing it and i'm saying we will do it. you| it and i'm saying we will do it. you can hold _ it and i'm saying we will do it. you can hold us — it and i'm saying we will do it. you can hold us to— it and i'm saying we will do it. you can hold us to account if _ it and i'm saying we will do it. you can hold us to account if we - it and i'm saying we will do it. you can hold us to account if we don'tl it and i'm saying we will do it. you| can hold us to account if we don't i understand, i_ can hold us to account if we don't i understand, i live _ can hold us to account if we don't i understand, i live in— can hold us to account if we don't i understand, i live in belfast - understand, i live in belfast and people — understand, i live in belfast and people make _ understand, i live in belfast and people make presumptions- understand, i live in belfast and people make presumptions thatj understand, i live in belfast and - people make presumptions that will be talked _ people make presumptions that will be talked about _ people make presumptions that will be talked about having _ people make presumptions that will be talked about having to _ people make presumptions that will be talked about having to travel- be talked about having to travel little _ be talked about having to travel little bit — be talked about having to travel little bit further _ be talked about having to travel little bit further we _ be talked about having to travel little bit further we mean - be talked about having to travel little bit further we mean come| be talked about having to travel. little bit further we mean come to belfast _ little bit further we mean come to belfast was — little bit further we mean come to belfast was up _ little bit further we mean come to belfast was up to _ little bit further we mean come to belfast was up to be _ little bit further we mean come to belfast was up to be clear, - little bit further we mean come to belfast was up to be clear, i'm . belfast was up to be clear, i'm happy— belfast was up to be clear, i'm happy to travel— belfast was up to be clear, i'm happy to travel a _ belfast was up to be clear, i'm happy to travel a bit _ belfast was up to be clear, i'm happy to travel a bit further. belfast was up to be clear, i'ml happy to travel a bit further if it means— happy to travel a bit further if it means i— happy to travel a bit further if it means i get— happy to travel a bit further if it means i get my— happy to travel a bit further if it means i get my operation - happy to travel a bit further if it i means i get my operation instead happy to travel a bit further if it - means i get my operation instead of getting _ means i get my operation instead of getting it _ means i get my operation instead of getting it at — means i get my operation instead of getting it at my— means i get my operation instead of getting it at my local— means i get my operation instead of getting it at my local hospital. - means i get my operation instead of getting it at my local hospital. i'm i getting it at my local hospital. i'm happy_ getting it at my local hospital. i'm happy to do— getting it at my local hospital. i'm happy to do that _ getting it at my local hospital. i'm happy to do that if— getting it at my local hospital. i'm happy to do that if it means - getting it at my local hospital. i'm happy to do that if it means i - getting it at my local hospital. i'mi happy to do that if it means i could have been done _ happy to do that if it means i could have been done in— happy to do that if it means i could have been done in a _ happy to do that if it means i could have been done in a timely- happy to do that if it means i couldi have been done in a timely way and other— have been done in a timely way and other people can— have been done in a timely way and other people can access _ have been done in a timely way and other people can access the - have been done in a timely way and i other people can access the services they need _ other people can access the services they need were _ other people can access the services they need. were all— other people can access the services they need. were all going _ other people can access the services they need. were all going to- other people can access the services they need. were all going to have i other people can access the services they need. were all going to have to make _ they need. were all going to have to make that _ they need. were all going to have to make that stretch _ they need. were all going to have to make that stretch in _ they need. were all going to have to make that stretch in terms - they need. were all going to have to make that stretch in terms of- they need. were all going to have to make that stretch in terms of what i make that stretch in terms of what we do _ make that stretch in terms of what we do then — make that stretch in terms of what we do then we _ make that stretch in terms of what we do. then we need _ make that stretch in terms of what we do. then we need to— make that stretch in terms of what we do. then we need to invest - make that stretch in terms of what we do. then we need to invest in i make that stretch in terms of what i we do. then we need to invest in our transport _ we do. then we need to invest in our transport infrastructure _ we do. then we need to invest in our transport infrastructure so— we do. then we need to invest in our transport infrastructure so people . transport infrastructure so people can access — transport infrastructure so people can access local—

transport infrastructure so people can access local services - transport infrastructure so people can access local services with - transport infrastructure so people can access local services with up. can access local services with up there's— can access local services with up there's no— can access local services with up there's no point— can access local services with up there's no point talking - can access local services with up there's no point talking about i can access local services with up i there's no point talking about going a little _ there's no point talking about going a little bit _ there's no point talking about going a little bit further— there's no point talking about going a little bit further to _ there's no point talking about going a little bit further to maybe - a little bit further to maybe a village — a little bit further to maybe a village that _ a little bit further to maybe a village that gets _ a little bit further to maybe a village that gets a _ a little bit further to maybe a village that gets a bus - a little bit further to maybe aj village that gets a bus once a a little bit further to maybe a - village that gets a bus once a week. we've got— village that gets a bus once a week. we've got to — village that gets a bus once a week. we've got to get _ village that gets a bus once a week. we've got to get those _ village that gets a bus once a week. we've got to get those things right, j we've got to get those things right, we got _ we've got to get those things right, we got infrastructure _ we've got to get those things right, we got infrastructure right - we've got to get those things right, we got infrastructure right with- we've got to get those things right, we got infrastructure right with the| we got infrastructure right with the mail service — we got infrastructure right with the mail service was _ we got infrastructure right with the mail service was up _ we got infrastructure right with the mail service was up it— we got infrastructure right with the mail service was up it isn't- we got infrastructure right with the mail service was up it isn'tjust - mail service was up it isn'tjust about— mail service was up it isn'tjust about waiting _ mail service was up it isn'tjust about waiting list _ mail service was up it isn'tjust about waiting list is _ mail service was up it isn'tjust about waiting list is about - mail service was up it isn'tjust i about waiting list is about primary care, _ about waiting list is about primary care, investing— about waiting list is about primary care, investing in— about waiting list is about primary care, investing in our— about waiting list is about primary care, investing in our gps, - care, investing in our gps, investing _ care, investing in our gps, investing in _ care, investing in our gps, investing in our— care, investing in our gps, i investing in our pharmacies care, investing in our gps, - investing in our pharmacies and it's about— investing in our pharmacies and it's about investing _ investing in our pharmacies and it's about investing and _ investing in our pharmacies and it's about investing and things - investing in our pharmacies and it's about investing and things like - about investing and things like social— about investing and things like social prescribing _ about investing and things like social prescribing that - about investing and things like social prescribing that are - social prescribing that are necessarily— social prescribing that are necessarily more - social prescribing that are i necessarily more expensive social prescribing that are - necessarily more expensive but can be much _ necessarily more expensive but can be much better— necessarily more expensive but can be much better in— necessarily more expensive but can be much better in terms— necessarily more expensive but can be much better in terms of- necessarily more expensive but can| be much better in terms of outcome for mental— be much better in terms of outcome for mental and — be much better in terms of outcome for mental and physical— be much better in terms of outcome for mental and physical well—being.| for mental and physical well— being. applause — for mental and physical well— being. applause the _ for mental and physical well—being. applause. the question— for mental and physical well—being. applause. the question perhaps i for mental and physical well—being. applause. the question perhaps is increasing privatisation but the last time waiting list were cleared in northern ireland it was through using private services to get that back done. do you think there is a role for the private sector? i back done. do you think there is a role for the private sector?- role for the private sector? i don't see it as a — role for the private sector? i don't see it as a long-term _ role for the private sector? i don't see it as a long-term row - role for the private sector? i don't see it as a long-term row but - role for the private sector? i don't see it as a long-term row but i i see it as a long—term row but i understand _ see it as a long—term row but i understand why— see it as a long—term row but i understand why people - see it as a long—term row but i understand why people go - see it as a long—term row but i understand why people go and| see it as a long—term row but i - understand why people go and use the private _ understand why people go and use the private sector— understand why people go and use the private sector as — understand why people go and use the private sector as an _ understand why people go and use the private sector as an extra _ understand why people go and use the private sector as an extra resource - private sector as an extra resource in times— private sector as an extra resource in times of— private sector as an extra resource in times of crisis. _ private sector as an extra resource in times of crisis. the _ private sector as an extra resource in times of crisis. the private - in times of crisis. the private sector— in times of crisis. the private sector firmly _ in times of crisis. the private sector firmly stepped - in times of crisis. the private sector firmly stepped up - in times of crisis. the private sector firmly stepped up in i in times of crisis. the private - sector firmly stepped up in terms of covid _ sector firmly stepped up in terms of covid and _ sector firmly stepped up in terms of covid and provided _ sector firmly stepped up in terms of covid and provided additional- covid and provided additional resources _ covid and provided additional resources that— covid and provided additional resources that we _ covid and provided additional resources that we are - covid and provided additional resources that we are able i covid and provided additional resources that we are able to covid and provided additional- resources that we are able to manage that in— resources that we are able to manage that in a _ resources that we are able to manage that in a timely— resources that we are able to manage that in a timely way. _ resources that we are able to manage that in a timely way. i— resources that we are able to manage that in a timely way. ithink— resources that we are able to manage that in a timely way. i think the - that in a timely way. i think the key if— that in a timely way. i think the key if were _ that in a timely way. i think the key if were going _ that in a timely way. i think the key if were going to _ that in a timely way. i think the key if were going to use - that in a timely way. i think the key if were going to use private sector— key if were going to use private sector to deal— key if were going to use private sector to deal with— key if were going to use private sector to deal with waiting - key if were going to use private sector to deal with waiting list. key if were going to use private | sector to deal with waiting list is at the _ sector to deal with waiting list is at the same _

sector to deal with waiting list is at the same time _ sector to deal with waiting list is at the same time we _ sector to deal with waiting list is at the same time we need - sector to deal with waiting list is at the same time we need to- sector to deal with waiting list is at the same time we need to be| at the same time we need to be dealing — at the same time we need to be dealing with _ at the same time we need to be dealing with the _ at the same time we need to be dealing with the underlying - dealing with the underlying structural problems - dealing with the underlying structural problems withini dealing with the underlying i structural problems within the health— structural problems within the health service _ structural problems within the health service so _ structural problems within the health service so that - structural problems within the health service so that when i structural problems within the| health service so that when we structural problems within the - health service so that when we stop investing _ health service so that when we stop investing in — health service so that when we stop investing in that _ health service so that when we stop investing in that waiting _ health service so that when we stop investing in that waiting list - health service so that when we stop investing in that waiting list they. investing in that waiting list they don't _ investing in that waiting list they don't go — investing in that waiting list they don't go straight _ investing in that waiting list they don't go straight back— investing in that waiting list they don't go straight back up - investing in that waiting list they don't go straight back up again. i investing in that waiting list they| don't go straight back up again. i don't go straight back up again. i do think— don't go straight back up again. i do think this _ don't go straight back up again. i do think this key _ don't go straight back up again. i do think this key point _ don't go straight back up again. i do think this key point here, - don't go straight back up again. i do think this key point here, we| do think this key point here, we sent— do think this key point here, we sent patients _ do think this key point here, we sent patients around _ do think this key point here, we sent patients around the - do think this key point here, we sent patients around the uk - do think this key point here, we sent patients around the uk to| do think this key point here, we i sent patients around the uk to get operations— sent patients around the uk to get operations done. _ sent patients around the uk to get operations done. why— sent patients around the uk to get operations done. why do - sent patients around the uk to get operations done. why do we - sent patients around the uk to get operations done. why do we not i sent patients around the uk to get. operations done. why do we not bring the cultists _ operations done. why do we not bring the cultists sultans _ operations done. why do we not bring the cultists sultans here _ operations done. why do we not bring the cultists sultans here and - operations done. why do we not bring the cultists sultans here and do- operations done. why do we not bring the cultists sultans here and do the i the cultists sultans here and do the surgery— the cultists sultans here and do the surgery herewith— the cultists sultans here and do the surgery herewith they _ the cultists sultans here and do the surgery herewith they could - the cultists sultans here and do the surgery herewith they could see - the cultists sultans here and do the i surgery herewith they could see more than one _ surgery herewith they could see more than one patient— surgery herewith they could see more than one patient at _ surgery herewith they could see more than one patient at a _ surgery herewith they could see more than one patient at a time _ surgery herewith they could see more than one patient at a time and - than one patient at a time and actually— than one patient at a time and actually deal _ than one patient at a time and actually deal with— than one patient at a time and actually deal with it _ than one patient at a time and actually deal with it locally? i than one patient at a time and. actually deal with it locally? we have _ actually deal with it locally? we have the — actually deal with it locally? we have the space _ actually deal with it locally? we have the space to _ actually deal with it locally? we have the space to do _ actually deal with it locally? we have the space to do that. - actually deal with it locally? we have the space to do that. i- actually deal with it locally? we i have the space to do that. i know that something _ have the space to do that. i know that something that _ have the space to do that. i know that something that robin - have the space to do that. i know that something that robin has i have the space to do that. i know i that something that robin has been working on — that something that robin has been workin: on. i . ., that something that robin has been workin: on. i . . .., working on. michelle and neil coming on this, the core _ working on. michelle and neil coming on this, the core question, _ working on. michelle and neil coming on this, the core question, how- working on. michelle and neil coming on this, the core question, how do i on this, the core question, how do you stop creeping privatisation if that's what it is? the question seems the government seem to be privatising the and by style. what privatising the and by style. what would ou privatising the and by style. what would you do _ privatising the and by style. what would you do to _ privatising the and by style. what would you do to make _ privatising the and by style. what would you do to make a - privatising the and by style. transit would you do to make a difference? privatising the and by style. ixarusgt would you do to make a difference? i wouldn't disagree with the assessment that is the intent of the tory for that we have to fight for out service. we have to fight for the nhs. we would look after the last years without those people that went over and above to get her through the pandemic years. we now need to fix what's wrong and we all

know it's wrong. a lady died in the streets waiting for an ambulance to come. that's not to discredit the ambulance says it's because the system is broken and it must be fixed now. others can say it's a priority but you actually have to back that up by supporting the budget which is to get that £1 billion extra for the people have to understand what that sort it's for a reason, to deal with the waiting list backlog. part of robin selective care plan which is basically how you do scheduled operations that are interrupted by emergency care is actually look at temporarily using some of that, that's not a solution. our solution is invest in our health service, staff, workforce plan, save staffing levels, equipment and retention strategy these are will coalesce and bring together better health system. there is diachronic need for this extra billion pound and that's why we prioritise it. you extra billion pound and that's why we prioritise it.— we prioritise it. you were a health minister before. _ we prioritise it. you were a health minister before. would _ we prioritise it. you were a health minister before. would your - we prioritise it. you were a health minister before. would your party take the role _ minister before. would your party take the role again? _ minister before. would your party take the role again? we - minister before. would your party take the role again? we are - minister before. would your party | take the role again? we are asking for the biggest possible support we can get in the selection. the more exposed we have the more seats we have, the more departments we have a

choice. . ., , choice. health would be in the mix. at first i choice. health would be in the mix. at first | think— choice. health would be in the mix. at first i think that's _ choice. health would be in the mix. at first i think that's fair _ choice. health would be in the mix. at first i think that's fair say. - choice. health would be in the mix. at first i think that's fair say. we i at first i think that's fair say. we need _ at first i think that's fair say. we need to— at first i think that's fair say. we need to humanise this. what were doing _ need to humanise this. what were doing is— need to humanise this. what were doing is sometimes withdrawing out for two _ doing is sometimes withdrawing out for two far— doing is sometimes withdrawing out for two far too many stats. with throwing — for two far too many stats. with throwing out what we aspiration we want to— throwing out what we aspiration we want to do— throwing out what we aspiration we want to do we have to humanise this and everybody has a story to tell about _ and everybody has a story to tell about the — and everybody has a story to tell about the nhs and how it's started them fantastic work for them or how it hasn't— them fantastic work for them or how it hasn't because of the system. tomorrow— it hasn't because of the system. tomorrow is the anniversary of the death— tomorrow is the anniversary of the death of— tomorrow is the anniversary of the death of an — tomorrow is the anniversary of the death of an 18—month—old grandson who died _ death of an 18—month—old grandson who died on waiting lists that's a human— who died on waiting lists that's a human side of theirs. people are dying _ human side of theirs. people are dying on— human side of theirs. people are dying on waiting list. we can't sguabble _ dying on waiting list. we can't squabble about this anymore. we can't _ squabble about this anymore. we can'tjust— squabble about this anymore. we can'tjust talk about squabble about this anymore. we can't just talk about this because it helps— can't just talk about this because it helps us— can't just talk about this because it helps us get elected or get a vote _ it helps us get elected or get a vote we — it helps us get elected or get a vote. we have to do this now to service — vote. we have to do this now to service the _ vote. we have to do this now to service the people out there because our people _ service the people out there because our people are dying on waiting lists and — our people are dying on waiting lists and we need to humanise us for that everything that happens i think michelle's telling us about what happened actually does at all tonight— happened actually does at all tonight also.— happened actually does at all toniuhtalso. , , ., tonight also. jeffrey donaldson? humanising _ tonight also. jeffrey donaldson? humanising means _ tonight also. jeffrey donaldson? humanising means putting - tonight also. jeffrey donaldson? humanising means putting the l humanising means putting the investment— humanising means putting the investment in— humanising means putting the investment in which _ humanising means putting the investment in which will- humanising means putting the| investment in which will deliver humanising means putting the - investment in which will deliver an

extra _ investment in which will deliver an extra £1_ investment in which will deliver an extra £1 billion. _ investment in which will deliver an extra £1 billion. 750,000 - investment in which will deliver an. extra £1 billion. 750,000 additional procedures— extra £1 billion. 750,000 additional procedures in— extra £1 billion. 750,000 additional procedures in our— extra £1 billion. 750,000 additional procedures in our health _ extra £1 billion. 750,000 additional procedures in our health service - procedures in our health service which _ procedures in our health service which will— procedures in our health service which will drive _ procedures in our health service which will drive down _ procedures in our health service which will drive down waiting. procedures in our health service i which will drive down waiting list. we are _ which will drive down waiting list. we are committed _ which will drive down waiting list. we are committed to _ which will drive down waiting list. we are committed to that. - which will drive down waiting list. we are committed to that. we've| we are committed to that. we've outlined — we are committed to that. we've outlined that _ we are committed to that. we've outlined that in _ we are committed to that. we've outlined that in our— we are committed to that. we've outlined that in our plans - we are committed to that. we've outlined that in our plans to - we are committed to that. we've outlined that in our plans to fix i outlined that in our plans to fix the nhs~ — outlined that in our plans to fix the nhs~ it— outlined that in our plans to fix the nhs. it also— outlined that in our plans to fix the nhs. it also means - outlined that in our plans to fix i the nhs. it also means recruiting more _ the nhs. it also means recruiting more staff— the nhs. it also means recruiting more staff into _ the nhs. it also means recruiting more staff into the _ the nhs. it also means recruiting more staff into the nhs. - the nhs. it also means recruiting more staff into the nhs. does. the nhs. it also means recruiting more staff into the nhs.- more staff into the nhs. does it also mean _ more staff into the nhs. does it also mean as — more staff into the nhs. does it also mean as colum _ more staff into the nhs. does it also mean as colum eastwood i more staff into the nhs. does it i also mean as colum eastwood said going back into government? it means recruitin: going back into government? it means recruiting more _ going back into government? it means recruiting more staff— going back into government? it means recruiting more staff into _ going back into government? it means recruiting more staff into the - going back into government? it means recruiting more staff into the nhs. - recruiting more staff into the nhs. we could _ recruiting more staff into the nhs. we could do— recruiting more staff into the nhs. we could do that _ recruiting more staff into the nhs. we could do that now. _ recruiting more staff into the nhs. we could do that now. we - recruiting more staff into the nhs. we could do that now. we need i recruiting more staff into the nhs. i we could do that now. we need more gps. we could do that now. we need more gps access— we could do that now. we need more gps access to — we could do that now. we need more gps. access to primary— we could do that now. we need more gps. access to primary care. - we could do that now. we need more gps. access to primary care. i- gps. access to primary care. i certainly— gps. access to primary care. i certainly have _ gps. access to primary care. i certainly have heard - gps. access to primary care. i certainly have heard out - gps. access to primary care. i certainly have heard out on i gps. access to primary care. ii certainly have heard out on the gps. access to primary care. i- certainly have heard out on the door social— certainly have heard out on the door social people — certainly have heard out on the door social people who _ certainly have heard out on the door social people who can't _ certainly have heard out on the door social people who can't get - certainly have heard out on the door social people who can't get access i social people who can't get access to their— social people who can't get access to their gp— social people who can't get access to their gp and _ social people who can't get access to their gp and it's _ social people who can't get access to their gp and it's important - social people who can't get access to their gp and it's important that| to their gp and it's important that we have _ to their gp and it's important that we have more _ to their gp and it's important that we have more gps, _ to their gp and it's important that we have more gps, we _ to their gp and it's important that we have more gps, we need - to their gp and it's important that we have more gps, we need to i to their gp and it's important that i we have more gps, we need to train and recruit— we have more gps, we need to train and recruit more _ we have more gps, we need to train and recruit more gps— we have more gps, we need to train and recruit more gps for— we have more gps, we need to train and recruit more gps for that - we have more gps, we need to train and recruit more gps for that we - we have more gps, we need to train and recruit more gps for that we are committed _ and recruit more gps for that we are committed to — and recruit more gps for that we are committed to that. _ and recruit more gps for that we are committed to that. i— and recruit more gps for that we are committed to that. i think _ and recruit more gps for that we are committed to that. i think this - and recruit more gps for that we are committed to that. i think this is - committed to that. i think this is important — committed to that. i think this is important a _ committed to that. i think this is important. a mention— committed to that. i think this is important. a mention has- committed to that. i think this is important. a mention has been. committed to that. i think this is - important. a mention has been made of privatisation — important. a mention has been made of privatisation or— important. a mention has been made of privatisation or use _ important. a mention has been made of privatisation or use of _ important. a mention has been made of privatisation or use of agency - of privatisation or use of agency staff _ of privatisation or use of agency staff as — of privatisation or use of agency staff as a — of privatisation or use of agency staff. as a result _ of privatisation or use of agency staff. as a result of— of privatisation or use of agency staff. as a result of an - of privatisation or use of agency staff. as a result of an foi - of privatisation or use of agency i staff. as a result of an foi request we did _ staff. as a result of an foi request we did we — staff. as a result of an foi request we did we discovered _ staff. as a result of an foi request we did we discovered that - staff. as a result of an foi request we did we discovered that for onel we did we discovered that for one agency, _ we did we discovered that for one agency, one — we did we discovered that for one agency, one of— we did we discovered that for one agency, one of the _ we did we discovered that for one agency, one of the nursing - we did we discovered that for one| agency, one of the nursing agency over one _ agency, one of the nursing agency over one weekend _ agency, one of the nursing agency over one weekend the _ agency, one of the nursing agency over one weekend the cost - agency, one of the nursing agency over one weekend the cost of - over one weekend the cost of providing _ over one weekend the cost of providing the _ over one weekend the cost of

providing the nurses - over one weekend the cost of providing the nurses that - over one weekend the cost of| providing the nurses that they offered — providing the nurses that they offered that— providing the nurses that they offered that weekend - providing the nurses that they offered that weekend was - providing the nurses that they- offered that weekend was £70,000 and over one _ offered that weekend was £70,000 and over one year _ offered that weekend was £70,000 and over one year that — offered that weekend was £70,000 and over one year that amount _ over one year that amount accumulated _ over one year that amount accumulated would, - over one year that amount accumulated would, could| over one year that amount - accumulated would, could result in an additional— accumulated would, could result in an additional 550 _ accumulated would, could result in an additional 550 more _ accumulated would, could result in an additional 550 more nurses - accumulated would, could result in. an additional 550 more nurses being employed _ an additional 550 more nurses being employed in — an additional 550 more nurses being employed in a — an additional 550 more nurses being employed in a health— an additional 550 more nurses being employed in a health service - an additional 550 more nurses being employed in a health service was . an additional 550 more nurses being employed in a health service was upi employed in a health service was up that's— employed in a health service was up that's the _ employed in a health service was up that's the cost— employed in a health service was up that's the cost of— employed in a health service was up that's the cost of using _ that's the cost of using agencies with up— that's the cost of using agencies with up it's _ that's the cost of using agencies with up it's a _ that's the cost of using agencies with up it's a massive _ that's the cost of using agencies with up it's a massive cost- that's the cost of using agencies with up it's a massive cost and l that's the cost of using agencies i with up it's a massive cost and we cant _ with up it's a massive cost and we can't... michelle, _ with up it's a massive cost and we can't... michelle, with— with up it's a massive cost and we can't... michelle, with all- with up it's a massive cost and we can't... michelle, with all due - can't... michelle, with all due respect, — can't... michelle, with all due respect. you _ can't... michelle, with all due respect, you will— can't... michelle, with all due respect, you will banded - can't... michelle, with all due respect, you will banded the i respect, you will banded the departnrent_ respect, you will banded the department of— respect, you will banded the department of health - respect, you will banded the - department of health rudderless, you walked _ department of health rudderless, you walked away— department of health rudderless, you walked away from _ department of health rudderless, you walked away from the _ department of health rudderless, you walked away from the department - department of health rudderless, you walked away from the department of| walked away from the department of health, _ walked away from the department of health, you — walked away from the department of health, you walked _ walked away from the department of health, you walked away _ walked away from the department of health, you walked away and - walked away from the department of health, you walked away and left - walked away from the department of health, you walked away and left it l health, you walked away and left it languishing — health, you walked away and left it languishing on— health, you walked away and left it languishing on waiting _ health, you walked away and left it languishing on waiting list. - health, you walked away and left it languishing on waiting list.- languishing on waiting list. you're sa in: the languishing on waiting list. you're saying the dup — languishing on waiting list. you're saying the dup will _ languishing on waiting list. you're saying the dup will be _ languishing on waiting list. you're saying the dup will be stayed - languishing on waiting list. you're saying the dup will be stayed on | saying the dup will be stayed on government for three years? tastes saying the dup will be stayed on government for three years? was able to sit down with _ government for three years? was able to sit down with our _ government for three years? was able to sit down with our colleagues, - to sit down with our colleagues, agree _ to sit down with our colleagues, agree and — to sit down with our colleagues, agree and that _ to sit down with our colleagues, agree and that must _ to sit down with our colleagues, agree and that must include - to sit down with our colleagues, . agree and that must include fixing the nhs, — agree and that must include fixing the nhs, recruiting... _ agree and that must include fixing i the nhs, recruiting... crosstalk. get the _ the nhs, recruiting... crosstalk. get the treatment _ the nhs, recruiting... crosstalk. get the treatment they _ the nhs, recruiting... crosstalk. get the treatment they need - the nhs, recruiting... crosstalk. get the treatment they need when| get the treatment they need when they need — get the treatment they need when they need that. that _ get the treatment they need when they need that. that includes - get the treatment they need when i they need that. that includes access to the _ they need that. that includes access to the gps — they need that. that includes access to the gps leit— they need that. that includes access to the gps. ., they need that. that includes access to the gps. . , ., to the gps. let me leave you with nice warm — to the gps. let me leave you with nice warm boards. _ to the gps. let me leave you with nice warm boards. the _ to the gps. let me leave you with nice warm boards. the reality - to the gps. let me leave you with nice warm boards. the reality is l nice warm boards. the reality is jeffre nice warm boards. the reality is jeffrey hasn't — nice warm boards. the reality is jeffrey hasn't been _ nice warm boards. the reality is jeffrey hasn't been clear. - nice warm boards. the reality is jeffrey hasn't been clear. if - nice warm boards. the reality is jeffrey hasn't been clear. if the | jeffrey hasn't been clear. if the protocol still exists next week in

its current form will you sit down with the rest of us and talk about forming a government to deal with the waiting list and deal with all the waiting list and deal with all the other things we talked about was that i will be there and they want. i will talk, negotiate about setting a programme for— i will talk, negotiate about setting a programme for government- i will talk, negotiate about setting a programme for government and| i will talk, negotiate about setting i a programme for government and we need to— a programme for government and we need to do— a programme for government and we need to do that — a programme for government and we need to do that at _ a programme for government and we need to do that at three _ a programme for government and we need to do that at three year- a programme for government and we need to do that at three year budget| need to do that at three year budget before _ need to do that at three year budget before we _ need to do that at three year budget before we form _ need to do that at three year budget before we form the _ need to do that at three year budget before we form the executive. - need to do that at three year budget before we form the executive. yes, i before we form the executive. yes, we do _ before we form the executive. yes, we do need — before we form the executive. yes, we do need to— before we form the executive. yes, we do need to deal— before we form the executive. yes, we do need to deal with _ before we form the executive. yes, we do need to deal with the - before we form the executive. yes, i we do need to deal with the protocol because the — we do need to deal with the protocol because the protocol— we do need to deal with the protocol because the protocol as _ we do need to deal with the protocol because the protocol as i've - we do need to deal with the protocol because the protocol as i've said - we do need to deal with the protocol because the protocol as i've said is l because the protocol as i've said is driving up — because the protocol as i've said is driving up the _ because the protocol as i've said is driving up the cost _ because the protocol as i've said is driving up the cost of _ because the protocol as i've said is driving up the cost of living. - because the protocol as i've said is driving up the cost of living. [it - because the protocol as i've said is driving up the cost of living. [it is l driving up the cost of living. it is the protocol... _ driving up the cost of living. it is the protocol... get— driving up the cost of living. it is the protocol... get the - driving up the cost of living. it is the protocol... get the result. the protocol... get the result because we _ the protocol... get the result because we need _ the protocol... get the result because we need stable - the protocol... get the result - because we need stable sustainable potiticat _ because we need stable sustainable political institutions... _ because we need stable sustainable political institutions... we - because we need stable sustainable political institutions... we still- political institutions... we still haven't— political institutions... we still haven't had _ political institutions... we still haven't had an _ political institutions... we still haven't had an answer. - political institutions... we still haven't had an answer. we - political institutions... we still| haven't had an answer. we still haven't— haven't had an answer. we still haven't had _ haven't had an answer. we still haven't had an _ haven't had an answer. we still haven't had an answer- haven't had an answer. we still haven't had an answer as - haven't had an answer. we still haven't had an answer as to - haven't had an answer. we still- haven't had an answer as to whether or not— haven't had an answer as to whether or not the _ haven't had an answer as to whether or not the protocol— haven't had an answer as to whether or not the protocol is _ haven't had an answer as to whether or not the protocol is going - haven't had an answer as to whether or not the protocol is going to - haven't had an answer as to whether or not the protocol is going to be a l or not the protocol is going to be a block— or not the protocol is going to be a block to— or not the protocol is going to be a block to form — or not the protocol is going to be a block to form a _ or not the protocol is going to be a block to form a government. - or not the protocol is going to be a block to form a government. [- or not the protocol is going to be a block to form a government. i have made a very _ block to form a government. i have made a very clear. _ block to form a government. i have made a very clear. crosstalk. - block to form a government. i have made a very clear. crosstalk. i'm afraid we are at a time. thank you very much indeed. that's where we have to leave the leaders debate for the peak binder full list of candidates standing in assembly

election by visiting bbc .co .uk/ news and high. some of the other parties the traditional unionist voice, the green party and people before profit will be having their say especially extended bbc news line on bbc one and i at 1030 and later on the bbc news channel. tomorrow morning a good morning alastair and the knowledge show will have reaction across abc radio ulcer. thanks again to all of our party leaders. tojeffrey donaldson, michelle o'neill and colum eastwood. and indeed thanks to our audience here in belfast and at home for watering. in 48 hours the polling stations will close in the decisions will be made. i hope we've helped and a very good night. thank you. applause.

tonight at ten — the prime minister says there is more the government can do to help with the rising cost of living — but he rules out a windfall tax on energy companies. bp has announced a sharp rise in profits for the first three months of this year — they've doubled since last year. but as their profits rise, so too do prices and energy bills for millions of people — piling pressure on the government to do more to help. i'm not going to pretend that every family is going to have a magic solution from the government overnight. i can't pretend we can do that but we can be as ingenious and as compassionate as possible. also on the programme tonight — rescued at last after more than 60

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