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tv   The Context with Christian Fraser  BBC News  May 16, 2022 9:00pm-10:01pm BST

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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. there are reports emerging from the azovstal steel plant in mariupol, that wounded ukrainians soldiers. more than 1,000 ukrainian troops remain in the steelworks where they are engaged in fierce gun—battles with the advancing russian forces. can the prime minister unlock power sharing in northern ireland's — he's been in belfast today to discuss the stand off over the northern ireland protocol. and the anger and grief in buffalo, new york, where a white supremacist has killed ten black people in a racially motivated attack. tonight with the context, from rome former eu foreign policy adviser nathalie tocci and the republican party strategist ron christie
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who joins us from washington. hello, welcome to the programme. the news emerging from the steel plant in mariupol is hard to verify, but it does seem tonight from the reporting of several news agencies, that the most severely wounded ukrainians have been taken out of the plant. 40 wounded ukrainians that need urgent treatment and we are told around a dozen buses have left the plant in the last few hours. the russian ministry of defence said those troops that do surrender would be taken to hospital in a nearby town, in separatist—held ukraine, where they will then become prisoners of war. we will keep across that and bring you details as we get it. meanwhile there is some evidence emerging that vladimir putin is directly overseeing battle plans for ukraine. western intelligence sources believe the russian president, together with his military chief general garasimov, are intervening
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in day—to—day tactical operations and are making decisions that would normally be made by morejunior officers. the command structure of the russian army, is top down, with instructions reaching the frontlines much slower than is the case for the ukrainians. it might explain why russian forces are sustaining such heavy losses and in some areas now going backwards. these are ukrainian soldiers standing at the russian border this morning. the counter—offensive which began on the ouskirsts of kharkiv, has gathered pace and is pushing north and east from the city. president zelensky, say the ukrainian troops, "we have arrived, at the border we are here" the remnants of the russian brigades that were beaten back around kharkiv are now being redeployed further south to izyum. the gateway to donbass — it sits just above the main body of the ukrainian forces that are still holding back moscow's eastern push. if the invading russian army were able to advance from there, then they would soon able to connect with forces pushing north from crimea.
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0ur correspondent quentin sommerville and camerman darren conway have been on patrol with the volunteer fighters of the ukrainian territorial army, who are fighting on this critical front line. above, a russian barrage is the signal it is time to get to work. 0utside these walls, everything is in the line of fire. and these men face it daily. they need little reminder that to the north, the majority of russia's forces are headquartered. and to the south, most of their ukrainian comrades. there are patrols and defence along this front line, and it keeps these two mighty forces
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apart. the shell start landing closer as the russians adjust their aim. are we heading back? no. you can get a sense of what russia's artillery and tanks can do to ukrainian homes. this is relentless. a reason why the men are holding on so tight in these offensive positions is because they simply cannot let the russians through here. if they do, more ukrainian troops to the south in the dough and bass will be under threat. they are hanging on for dear life here. —— the donbas region. it gives you a flavour of what those troops are going through. in its latest assessment,
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the ministry of defence here, said the russian campaign in the east has "lost momentum" and is now "significantly behind schedule". in fact, they believe russia may have lost a third of the groundforces it sent into ukraine in the face of this continued resistance. last week the ukrainians blew up several pontoon bridges over a river in the luhansk region, destroying an entire russian batallion. these are the pictures you are looking at now. these are the pictures you are looking at now. and suddenly after weeks spent fretting over what would happen if russia crushed ukraine, western european leaders are now worried about what might happen if ukraine actually wins. last week the french president emmanuel macron said a "humiliation" of russia could create a whole new set of problems, the italian prime minister mario draghi and the german chancellor 0laf scholz have stressed it would be up to ukraine to determine how this ends but like president macron, they've underscored their preference for a ceasefire. lieutenant general ben hodges is the former commander of the us army in europe, he is now the pershing chair in strategic studies at the centre for european policy analysis. hejoins us now. it is good to he joins us now. it is good to have you back on the programme. can we
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start with the news that we are getting from mariupol that may be a0 orso getting from mariupol that may be a0 or so seriously wounded ukrainian soldiers have been taken out? on the surface, that is good news, but of course, the russians do not have a good record of looking after prisoners of war.— good record of looking after prisoners of war. yes, i have zero confidence _ prisoners of war. yes, i have zero confidence that _ prisoners of war. yes, i have zero confidence that russian _ prisoners of war. yes, i have zero confidence that russian forces - prisoners of war. yes, i have zero i confidence that russian forces would treat these would be soldiers appropriately, that they would be taken care of. i have no confidence in that, but at the same time, if there is a chance for the soldiers to get proper medical care, obviously i would want to see that. there is a process of prisoner exchanges that has been going on, so hopefully they can be cared for and then get back home. to hopefully they can be cared for and then get back home.— hopefully they can be cared for and then get back home. to many of us lookin: then get back home. to many of us looking on. — then get back home. to many of us looking on, from _ then get back home. to many of us looking on, from the _ then get back home. to many of us looking on, from the russian - then get back home. to many of us looking on, from the russian side, | looking on, from the russian side, this looks like how not to fight a war. there are intelligence reports
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that vladimir putin is directing this. do you think that speaks to some of the problems of russian forces have had on the ground? i pray that vladimir putin is directly involved in running this because that will make it even worse for them than it already is. he clearly is not a professional soldier and that would be good news if he was personally involved in making decisions about what was going to happen next because he will have zero understandings of the logistics, zero clue about how to integrate air, land and sea forces. i think there is... it reflects or manifests a degree of urgency that they are feeling, that it is going terribly bad for russian federation forces. look, there are many tough weeks ahead for ukraine. there is no doubt about that. but my sense is that by the end of this summer,
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august, labour day, early september, russian forces are going to culminate, theyjust don't have the logistics necessary to maintain what they are doing. i think they have very serious manpower problems. and as you know, i don't think of you as an amateur in any way, but as you do know, the moral component of what is going on is so much more important thanjust the physical. the ukrainians have the will, i don't believe the russians do or that they can sustain it. as you show these pictures, this is important. this scene we have all been watching, not only were the bridges destroyed, but the engineers, the soldiers who were trained how to do this. they would have been killed or wounded. this is just as devastating a loss as is the actual components of the pontoon
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bridges. actual components of the pontoon brides. ., . �* . ., , bridges. you are in bucharest general. _ bridges. you are in bucharest general. you _ bridges. you are in bucharest general, you will— bridges. you are in bucharest general, you will have - bridges. you are in bucharest general, you will have read i bridges. you are in bucharest i general, you will have read the reports that president macron wants us to an quickly. it seems the german chancellor and german chancellor on the same page as well and you don't normally see this happen. how would this be seen in eastern europe? —— the italian president. eastern europe? -- the italian president-— president. this would be a catastrophe. _ president. this would be a catastrophe. shame - president. this would be a catastrophe. shame on . president. this would be a - catastrophe. shame on them. president. this would be a _ catastrophe. shame on them. shame if they are encouraging the ukrainians to give up territory. i was speaking to give up territory. i was speaking to someone the other day and she was asked by an italianjournalist to someone the other day and she was asked by an italian journalist why don't you give up something? and she said ok, why don't you give up lake cuomo? it is the arrogance of central and western european leaders or anyone from the united states to tell the ukrainians come on and
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accept the loss of part of your territory. just so we can stop the fighting. in his pathetic. this is about people who are fighting, they want to be free. and we know not only from hundreds of years of history with dealing with russia, but also the last few months, what will happen to those parts of ukraine got might potentially be handed over in some sort of a settlementjust to stop handed over in some sort of a settlement just to stop the fighting. we know exactly what will happen with that, we have seen it. i think it is a shame that any of these leaders would advocate to ukraine, as long as they feel like they can still fight, that they would do this. russia is going to culminate by the end of the summer. they cannot sustain this. this is a test of logistics and will and i believe that ukraine is going to be able to go over to the offensive
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here at the end of august and this will be a completely different situation. . , . , will be a completely different situation. . , ., , , ., situation. really, really strong oints situation. really, really strong points you _ situation. really, really strong points you make _ situation. really, really strong points you make on _ situation. really, really strong points you make on this - situation. really, really strong points you make on this issue. situation. really, really strong - points you make on this issue. i'm going to bring an hour panel on this. natalie, i know you have been tweeting about this. you made reference to the public vote in the eurovision song contest. liz truss the foreign secretary here is saying that we want it all back, crimea and the donbas. it is such a totemic issue for russia, crimea, is there not a danger that this is the point you push them so far that nuclear tactical weapons are looked at? firstly, the point here is really not up — firstly, the point here is really not up to— firstly, the point here is really not up to liz truss, italy, france, or my— not up to liz truss, italy, france, or my aunt — not up to liz truss, italy, france, or my aunt about what ukrainian should _ or my aunt about what ukrainian should or— or my aunt about what ukrainian should or should not do. it is up
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for them — should or should not do. it is up for them to— should or should not do. it is up for them to make that point. i do not know— for them to make that point. i do not know whether there will be a point _ not know whether there will be a point in — not know whether there will be a point in which they will want to talk about territorial compromises. i suspect— talk about territorial compromises. i suspect given what ben hodges was saying _ i suspect given what ben hodges was saying meaning that we now know what happens _ saying meaning that we now know what happens in _ saying meaning that we now know what happens in the territory that russia occupies. _ happens in the territory that russia occupies, that that is going to be a difficult _ occupies, that that is going to be a difficult thing to sell to the ukrainians. and if they ever do, it will be _ ukrainians. and if they ever do, it will be accompanied by, what are we going _ will be accompanied by, what are we going to _ will be accompanied by, what are we going to do — will be accompanied by, what are we going to do about the war crimes? which _ going to do about the war crimes? which would probably end up needing an impossible negotiation given that we know_ an impossible negotiation given that we know what the international community will consider war crimes, these _ community will consider war crimes, these are _ community will consider war crimes, these are exactly the same people being _ these are exactly the same people being given awards back in moscow for what _ being given awards back in moscow for what they did in bucha. frankly speak— for what they did in bucha. frankly speak the — for what they did in bucha. frankly speak the -- — for what they did in bucha. frankly speak the —— frankly speaking talking — speak the —— frankly speaking talking about compromising territories is extremely difficult. a point— territories is extremely difficult. a point which i do want to make and ithink— a point which i do want to make and i think it _ a point which i do want to make and i think it is _
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a point which i do want to make and i think it is important, the difference between transatlantic league _ difference between transatlantic league between public communication including _ league between public communication including leaders communication of policy _ including leaders communication of policy i_ including leaders communication of policy. i think when it comes to policy— policy. i think when it comes to policy there is not really much of a difference — policy there is not really much of a difference. if i think about the position— difference. if i think about the position of my own government and the biden— position of my own government and the biden administration, it was kind of— the biden administration, it was kind of overlap when the visit between _ kind of overlap when the visit between the two heads of state took place in _ between the two heads of state took place in washington last week. there is a real— place in washington last week. there is a real problem which goes to to the tweet— is a real problem which goes to to the tweet that you mentioned as far as the _ the tweet that you mentioned as far as the public communication side and especially— as the public communication side and especially the media debate in our respective countries. for example, in my— respective countries. for example, in my view, — respective countries. for example, in my view, president macron made a hu-e in my view, president macron made a huge mistake talking about we don't need to— huge mistake talking about we don't need to humiliate putin. not so much because _ need to humiliate putin. not so much because of— need to humiliate putin. not so much because of the content of the message, simply because i don't think— message, simply because i don't think this — message, simply because i don't think this is a message that should be publicly communicated certainly not at _ be publicly communicated certainly not at this— be publicly communicated certainly not at this time. i also think on the other— not at this time. i also think on the other side that it is a mistake
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for president biden to talk about regime _ for president biden to talk about regime change. not because it is necessarily wrong to think so, frankly— necessarily wrong to think so, frankly speaking, i think he is probably— frankly speaking, i think he is probably right, i'm just not sure this is— probably right, i'm just not sure this is the — probably right, i'm just not sure this is the kind of message that should — this is the kind of message that should be — this is the kind of message that should be publicly communicated at this point— should be publicly communicated at this point in time.— this point in time. ron, mitch mcconnell. — this point in time. ron, mitch mcconnell, the _ this point in time. ron, mitch mcconnell, the minorities - this point in time. ron, mitch - mcconnell, the minorities senator was in kyiv this weekend and he said quite simple, the ukrainians have to win and the russians have to lose. but there are plenty in republican ranks who might disagree with him and say you know what, i see it the way that president macron sees it. i think that is absolutely correct. you are — think that is absolutely correct. you are seeing— think that is absolutely correct. you are seeing this _ think that is absolutely correct. you are seeing this play- think that is absolutely correct. you are seeing this play out. think that is absolutely correct. you are seeing this play out inl think that is absolutely correct. i you are seeing this play out in the united _ you are seeing this play out in the united states— you are seeing this play out in the united states senate. _ you are seeing this play out in the united states senate. ironically. united states senate. ironically with the — united states senate. ironically with the majority— united states senate. ironically with the majority and _ united states senate. ironically with the majority and minority i with the majority and minority leader— with the majority and minority teaderiust _ with the majority and minority leaderjust having _ with the majority and minority leaderjust having been- with the majority and minority leaderjust having been in- with the majority and minorityl leaderjust having been in kyiv. with the majority and minority i leaderjust having been in kyiv. a very interesting _ leaderjust having been in kyiv. a very interesting dynamic- leaderjust having been in kyiv. a very interesting dynamic is- leaderjust having been in kyiv. a i very interesting dynamic is brewing and it— very interesting dynamic is brewing and it is— very interesting dynamic is brewing and it is being _ very interesting dynamic is brewing and it is being led _ very interesting dynamic is brewing and it is being led by— very interesting dynamic is brewing and it is being led by the _ very interesting dynamic is brewing and it is being led by the junior- and it is being led by the junior senator— and it is being led by the junior senator from _ and it is being led by the junior senator from kentucky- and it is being led by the junior senator from kentucky rand i and it is being led by the junior. senator from kentucky rand paul and it is being led by the junior- senator from kentucky rand paul who says we _ senator from kentucky rand paul who says we have — senator from kentucky rand paul who says we have already— senator from kentucky rand paul who says we have already given _ senator from kentucky rand paul who says we have already given $16 - says we have already given $16 billion — says we have already given $16 billion to — says we have already given $16 billion to ukraine, _
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says we have already given $16 billion to ukraine, the - says we have already given $16| billion to ukraine, the president has proposed _ billion to ukraine, the president has proposed another— billion to ukraine, the president has proposed another 33 - billion to ukraine, the presidentj has proposed another 33 billion, what _ has proposed another 33 billion, what about— has proposed another 33 billion, what about our— has proposed another 33 billion, what about our priorities - has proposed another 33 billion, what about our priorities here i has proposed another 33 billion, what about our priorities here atj what about our priorities here at home? — what about our priorities here at home? is — what about our priorities here at home? is it— what about our priorities here at home? is it in— what about our priorities here at home? is it in the _ what about our priorities here at home? is it in the strategic- home? is it in the strategic interest— home? is it in the strategic interest of— home? is it in the strategic interest of the _ home? is it in the strategic interest of the united - home? is it in the strategic. interest of the united states home? is it in the strategic- interest of the united states to be giving _ interest of the united states to be giving away — interest of the united states to be giving away all _ interest of the united states to be giving away all this _ interest of the united states to be giving away all this money- interest of the united states to be giving away all this money to - giving away all this money to ukraine — giving away all this money to ukraine and _ giving away all this money to ukraine and should - giving away all this money to ukraine and should we - giving away all this money to i ukraine and should we continue giving away all this money to - ukraine and should we continue to supply— ukraine and should we continue to supply them — ukraine and should we continue to supply them with _ ukraine and should we continue to supply them with materials - ukraine and should we continue to supply them with materials and i supply them with materials and armament? _ supply them with materials and armament? could _ supply them with materials and armament? could this - supply them with materials and armament? could this bring - supply them with materials and armament? could this bring us| supply them with materials and - armament? could this bring us into a closer— armament? could this bring us into a closer conflict, — armament? could this bring us into a closer conflict, geopolitical _ armament? could this bring us into a closer conflict, geopolitical crisis - closer conflict, geopolitical crisis with the — closer conflict, geopolitical crisis with the russian _ closer conflict, geopolitical crisis with the russian federation? - closer conflict, geopolitical crisis with the russian federation? i. closer conflict, geopolitical crisis . with the russian federation? i think the and _ with the russian federation? i think the and his— with the russian federation? i think the and his show— with the russian federation? i think the and his show signs _ with the russian federation? i think the and his show signs of— the and his show signs of bipartisanship _ the and his show signs of bipartisanship of- the and his show signs of. bipartisanship of supporting the and his show signs of— bipartisanship of supporting ukraine is starting _ bipartisanship of supporting ukraine is starting to — bipartisanship of supporting ukraine is starting to fray— bipartisanship of supporting ukraine is starting to fray and _ bipartisanship of supporting ukraine is starting to fray and people - bipartisanship of supporting ukraine is starting to fray and people are - is starting to fray and people are saying _ is starting to fray and people are saying we — is starting to fray and people are saying we are _ is starting to fray and people are saying we are biting _ is starting to fray and people are saying we are biting off - is starting to fray and people are saying we are biting off more - saying we are biting off more than we can— saying we are biting off more than we can chew— saying we are biting off more than we can chew and _ saying we are biting off more than we can chew and given— saying we are biting off more than we can chew and given the - saying we are biting off more thanj we can chew and given the reports that we _ we can chew and given the reports that we have — we can chew and given the reports that we have heard _ we can chew and given the reports that we have heard about - we can chew and given the reports that we have heard about the - we can chew and given the reports i that we have heard about the health of vladimir— that we have heard about the health of vladimir putin, _ that we have heard about the health of vladimir putin, do _ that we have heard about the health of vladimir putin, do we _ that we have heard about the health of vladimir putin, do we want- of vladimir putin, do we want to push _ of vladimir putin, do we want to push him— of vladimir putin, do we want to push him in— of vladimir putin, do we want to push him in such— of vladimir putin, do we want to push him in such a _ of vladimir putin, do we want to push him in such a way- of vladimir putin, do we want to push him in such a way that - of vladimir putin, do we want to push him in such a way that the i of vladimir putin, do we want to i push him in such a way that the use of nuctear— push him in such a way that the use of nuclear tactical— push him in such a way that the use of nuclear tactical weapons - push him in such a way that the use of nuclear tactical weapons is - push him in such a way that the use of nuclear tactical weapons is his. of nuclear tactical weapons is his only way— of nuclear tactical weapons is his only way out? _ of nuclear tactical weapons is his only way out?— only way out? fraying within the republican _ only way out? fraying within the republican party _ only way out? fraying within the republican party and _ only way out? fraying within the republican party and in - only way out? fraying within the republican party and in europe, | republican party and in europe, which is probably why liz truss is speaking as candidly as she is. general hodges before i let you go,
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can we talk about finland and sweden? because sweden has followed finland pasek example and applied formulate for nato membership. there is a line that may be turkey might object to it. and this requires a unanimous vote within the nato alliance. do you think they could get in the way of it? big alliance. do you think they could get in the way of it?— get in the way of it? by the way, natalie is one _ get in the way of it? by the way, natalie is one of _ get in the way of it? by the way, natalie is one of the _ get in the way of it? by the way, i natalie is one of the great experts in europe on all of these matters, so i am happy to be alongside her. adding sweden and finland to nato significantly increases security for all of europe, notjust those two nations. they are too strong liberal democracies, too strong resilient societies and they bring very modern and capable military forces. and the geometry changes for the baltic region and the arctic. i am very confident that our turkish allies is going to accept sweden and finland
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coming into the alliance. i think president erdogan is going to use this as an opportunity to remind everybody, hey, iam this as an opportunity to remind everybody, hey, i am the president of the turkish republic one of the members of nato and my opinion matters also and not to be taken for granted. there is a little bit of posturing there that is reasonable. i also think this is probably about getting leverage so that pressure on the us is being put on them to get the us is being put on them to get the f—16s that turkey has asked for. this is an easy yes and i hope the biden administration will do that. this is very interesting. let's talk about mcdonald's because a symbolic decision has been made saying that they are going to leave russia completely. they are going to sell all of their 850 restaurants in the country. the fast—food chain
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closed its russian stores in march in response to the kremlin's war on ukraine, but had continued the salaries of its 62,000 workers. the company says it is is seeking a russian buyer who will continue to pay its employees at least until a sale closes. here's our moscow correspondent steve rosenberg. this really is the end of an era. i remember when the first mcdonald's restaurant open in russia way back in 1990, back in the ussr. there was such excitement and huge crowds. i had to wait in line for three hours to get in. i remember that day american burgers and fries and pies, they really were a symbol that day of moscow embracing the west, fast hot food to end the cold war. but fast forward 32 years, things have changed and basically russia and the west have lost their appetite for one another. that is a thousand companies that suspended in russia. a lot of them have taken all very big hit on the money invested. morally, reputation
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only, they would rather be on the side of the western public. ida side of the western public. fir? question about it. i graduated from couegein question about it. i graduated from college in 1991 and one of my romance went over to moscow and went to work for pizza hut and mcdonald's. he was a manager. he said that there were lines around the corner. people who were trying to get a taste of america. 62,000 employees from mcdonald's corporation alone, that is a lot of people at a time when i think a lot of people in the russian federation are looking to the west as one of the biggest symbols of the west, mcdonald's, is picking up and going home. , ., ., , , ., home. general hodges, very good to have our home. general hodges, very good to have your company. _ home. general hodges, very good to have your company. thank _ home. general hodges, very good to have your company. thank you - home. general hodges, very good to have your company. thank you so . home. general hodges, very good to i have your company. thank you so much for being with us.— for being with us. thank you for the rivileue. borisjohnson says it is still possible to find a"sensible" solution with the eu to a dispute over the post—brexit trading
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arrangements in northern ireland. but in belfast the prime minister reiterated he is prepared to act unilaterally to protect the good friday agreement if brussels refuses to budge. it's expected the british government will produce legislation this week, that would unilaterally scrap parts of the so called northern ireland protocol. though that legislation will take time to work its way through the parliamentary system. the prime minister met with all the parties today at hillsborough castle in belfast. the democratic unionist party, northern ireland's largest unionist party, is refusing tojoin northern ireland's power sharing executive until the customs border that exists in the irish sea is removed. their leader, sir jeffrey donaldson, says the new customs border undermines their constitutional position within the uk. i want to see what the government have to propose. i welcome the prime minister being here today and the opportunity to speak to him. we have waited a long time for this moment. a long time to see the government bring forward proposals that represent action to deal with the problems created by the irish sea border. by the harm that is doing to
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our economy, undermining our political institutions, creating instability and harming our relationship with the rest of the united kingdom. we cannot have power unless there is a consensus. that consensus does not exist. i am in the business of rebuilding that consensus. mr donaldson said he will reserve judgment on power sharing, until he has seen what the government proposes in the legislation. the sinn fein president, mary lou mcdonald, who also met with the prime minister, said the british government was working in coordination with the dup to undermine the suspended northern ireland executive and international law. the british prime minister has created the impression at least that he is minded to get rid of the protocol. now, that clearly is not possible. legally, that is not permissible, but what he hasn't been clear about is what any proposed legislation might or might not contain. it is clear, however, that in the mind of borisjohnson, government here on the north
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is contingent on satisfying the dup demand in respect of the protocol, thereby affording to one section of unionism, of political unionism, a veto that is entirely unadaptable. we are going to bring in mark devonport. nice to see. it seems to me that the dup are going to reserve judgment until they see what is in this legislation proposed by boris johnson later this week. that this legislation proposed by boris johnson later this week.- johnson later this week. that is exactly the _ johnson later this week. that is exactly the case. _ johnson later this week. that is exactly the case. what - johnson later this week. that is exactly the case. what we - johnson later this week. that is exactly the case. what we are i exactly the case. what we are expecting is the british government to reveal at least their intentions if not a full draught this week. and the intention appears to be to override parts of this controversial brexit protocol to try and change the whole approach to goods moving between great britain and northern ireland. the protocol essentially keeps northern ireland and the eu
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single market which means goods have to follow the standards of the european union. and almost all goods coming across the irish sea are being subject potentially two checks in case they find their way into the eu single market. that is in essence the deal that was done by boris johnson in order to get brexit done. and looks like the approach he wants to have is almost a kind of green lane, red lane approach whereby that these goods are just for northern ireland and they should not have to comply to eu standards or subjected to checks unless there is a real suspicion that the real intention is to go on towards the irish republic and towards the eu single market. a large part of the commentary and perfectly understandable as well because it is the case, is that borisjohnson signed this and it is international law. then you could add to that that it is believed that
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the british government are working in cahoots with the dup. the simple fact is and this is important that the dup campaign throughout against the dup campaign throughout against the protocol, northern ireland voted against brexit and they have been consistent that this interferes with their constitutional position within their constitutional position within the uk. it is a constitutional crisis. ~ , ., ., ., , crisis. while you get various arguments _ crisis. while you get various arguments about _ crisis. while you get various arguments about the - crisis. while you get various - arguments about the economics of this and whether it has been good for the northern ireland business community or not and they ark with go back and forth, the essential problem that the unionist, dup and others is political. they believe that there british identity is being eroded because they are being treated as a foreign country by the eu and being subjected to checks that no other part of the uk has to follow. it is essentially a
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political problem. borisjohnson did sign up to this. at one stage he told local business people this will be minor. if anyone comes to you to do these paperwork to throw it in the bin. and it has turned out that no. the eu is implementing it saying that this is the deal that we made and it was going to be implemented in this way and it is causing boris johnson a big headache. what in this way and it is causing boris johnson a big headache.- johnson a big headache. what is wron: johnson a big headache. what is wrong with _ johnson a big headache. what is wrong with the _ johnson a big headache. what is wrong with the green _ johnson a big headache. what is wrong with the green channel? l johnson a big headache. what is - wrong with the green channel? to be honest, as wrong with the green channel? to be honest. as far— wrong with the green channel? to be honest, as far as _ wrong with the green channel? to be honest, as far as the _ wrong with the green channel? to be honest, as far as the eu _ wrong with the green channel? to be honest, as far as the eu is _ honest, as faras the eu is concerned it starts with a basic point _ concerned it starts with a basic point as— concerned it starts with a basic point as was said, this was an agreement that was negotiated and signed and that is that. i understand and i think many europeans would understand the political — europeans would understand the political difficulties that the uk is going — political difficulties that the uk is going through, but this is a uk internat— is going through, but this is a uk internal question. as far as it may be politically convenient for boris johnson — be politically convenient for boris johnson to pick up a street fight with the —
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johnson to pick up a street fight with the eu in a moment a political difficulty. _ with the eu in a moment a political difficulty, what better tactic would there _ difficulty, what better tactic would there be — difficulty, what better tactic would there be, but this does not concern there be, but this does not concern the eu? _ there be, but this does not concern the eu? if— there be, but this does not concern the eu? if they were to go back on the protocol, there will be retaliatory measures. we were talking — retaliatory measures. we were talking up until now about the existential moment that europe is living _ existential moment that europe is living through. the fact they eu and the uk _ living through. the fact they eu and the uk have been cooperating really quite well— the uk have been cooperating really quite well for the first time in a long _ quite well for the first time in a long time — quite well for the first time in a long time over the war in ukraine. frankiy— long time over the war in ukraine. frankly speaking, spoiling all of this by— frankly speaking, spoiling all of this by going back and reneging on an agreement that has been negotiated from a european perspective absolutely incredible. it is going to require pragmatism on all sides. there are representative coming overfrom all sides. there are representative coming over from the all sides. there are representative coming overfrom the us and maybe they can help find a solution. thank you for your time. we will be right back. do stay with us. plenty more to come.
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hello. most of us has seen rain at some stage of the day. in scotland, it's been raining on and off of much of the day with the exception of some sunshine in shetland, and the rain with quite a cool easterly wind as well. for northern ireland, for much of england and wales, there's been some sunshine, but big clouds producing scattered, heavy showers and thunderstorms, too. we've got low pressure sitting to the west of us at the moment, throwing up bands of wet weather and also thundery downpours. but the flow of air coming around it from a long way south and it's quite warm, quite welcome, quite humid, especially where you get to see some sunshine. warmer still for many into tomorrow. we've still got heavy and thundery downpours in places at the moment and some rain in scotland, all of that clearing through getting into tonight. so, by morning, it's mainly dry, misty and murky in places. you'll find the lower temperatures across eastern scotland and northeast england.
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we're setting up a west—east split in our weather tomorrow, turning wetter in the west. in the morning, it doesn't look like much, but through the afternoon, this rain will turn heavy and more widespread across northern ireland, western scotland, at least the west of wales, in western parts of england and holding temperatures down. anywhere to the east of that, you're going to have a mainly dry, much warmer day in the sunny spells, really boosting temperatures. the highs we've seen so far this year in the uk across east anglia and the south—east, mid 20s, around 26 degrees, warmer in eastern scotland, too. where you have the warmth, you get to see the sunshine. it's high uv, high pollen levels as well. the rain does move east tomorrow evening and towards the south as well. they'll be some thundery downpours to contend with. so, more wet weather around, clearing through by the time we get to wednesday morning. then we've got a gap between systems just waiting for the next batch of showers to move through northern ireland later in the night, scotland wednesday morning. then it's a case of a lot of fine weather around on wednesday with broken cloud and sunny spells. the next weather system's bearing
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down on northern ireland later in the day with some rain. ahead of that, just may throw up a few showers, and again, towards parts of the south and southwest, some could be heavy and thundery in places. temperatures a little bit lower on wednesday, but still very warm, particularly across central and eastern parts of england. then, as we get to thursday, there is a lot of fine weather around. by friday, showers and maybe some thunderstorms moving through for a cooler, fresher, showery weekend. that's your weather.
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. police call the shooting in buffalo a �*racist hate crime' after ten black people were gunned down in a racially motivated attack. the victims are aged between 32 and 86. we'll be a speaking to a pastorfrom buffalo as the black community grieves. the european union drop the requirement for masks on flights and in airports. he sings and the sale of chelsea could slip into extra time as uk government ministers fear the sale of club could �*fall apart�*. tonight with the context, from rome former eu foreign policy adviser nathalie tocc. also, republican party strategist ron christie is in washington.
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welcome back. how does the community of buffalo, new york, process what happened to them on saturday? 0n the east side of the city, an 18—year—old gunman walked into a grocery store and shot 13 people, killing ten of them in a "racially—motivated hate crime". the shooter was a self—confessed white supremacist. he is known to have travelled about 200 miles from his home in conklin, new york, choosing the east side because of its high density of black people. and he had planned it, right "down to the minute", including the diagrams of where he would open fire at the tops friendly market. and all the while, he was live—streaming on the web what he was doing. a home—grown terrorist. the eldest of the ten victims was 86—year—old ruth whitfield. her son garnell paid tribute to his mother. we're doing this because we hope, and some small way, to contribute in some small way, to contribute to some positive change,
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to take this anger and this hole in our hearts and make sure it doesn't happen to somebody else. my mum... ..on that day... that day was like every other day for my mum. my mum got up that morning and she went up to high point, up to the nursing home, to care for the love of her life, my father. 68 years they were married. he's in that nursing home for the last eight years, and every day, she would care for him to make sure that he had a quality of life, to do what nobody else could do for him. former policeman aaron salter was working as a security guard at the supermarket. he was shot dead as he tried to stop the gunman. the erie county sheriff tweeted this picture of mr salter, saying this is what a hero looks like. we can talk now to ulysees wingo,
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a buffalo city council member and also a pastor at the anticoch baptist church. good evening too. pastor, our deepest sympathies and condolences. if anybody still wonders if white supremacy is still a threat to black people in america, here it is. christian, thank you. the city of buffalo has fallen victim to one of the most heinous acts of human civility or society, which is to take a life you did not give. we do not have the power to give life, nor do we have the power or should have, even the thought to try to take someone's life. this heinous crime, and as i watched darnell talk about
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his mother, the entire community here in the studio buffalo the —— is furious because we know she did not deserve to go like that. aaron salter the officer who is a hero, the words of the sheriff could not have been any more clear. more accurate. he was and is a hero and we've already made an appeal to ensure that he received a hero's farewell. �* , . , , , ensure that he received a hero's farewell. �*, . , ,, ., farewell. it's a selfless act and clearly save — farewell. it's a selfless act and clearly save a _ farewell. it's a selfless act and clearly save a number- farewell. it's a selfless act and clearly save a number of- farewell. it's a selfless act and clearly save a number of lives| farewell. it's a selfless act and i clearly save a number of lives at the supermarket. what do you do with all that anger? you the supermarket. what do you do with all that anger?— all that anger? you turn it into action. all that anger? you turn it into action- you — all that anger? you turn it into action. you take _ all that anger? you turn it into action. you take your - all that anger? you turn it into action. you take your anger. all that anger? you turn it into l action. you take your anger and all that anger? you turn it into - action. you take your anger and turn it into action. in my seven years as
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an elected official, i probably never been this busy. in order to cope, it's probably necessary to say this, to stay focused on ensuring our community is not torn to shreds and not broken beyond repair. you take that anger and you focus it on action, and that action looks like going out and finding partners which we don't have to look far for and ensuring that families who frequented the store who are now disenfranchised. we want to make sure they are receiving quality foods, so we've partnered with tops market and the council of western new york and others around buffalo to ensure that we don't go without. .. to ensure that we don't go without... buffalo is known here as
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a city of the neighbours, and no matter what tragedy we go through, no matter what we experience here, we always find ourselves living up as the city of good neighbours. it’s as the city of good neighbours. it's not the first incident of this kind. there was the white government in el paso, texas, who killed more than 20, blaming hispanic invasion —— there was one white gunman. there was one man who killed 11 in a pittsburgh synagogue, blaming jewish people, somehow responsible for an invasion. now this. and they call it replacement theory, conspiracies that there are people, groups in america who are somehow keeping borders open because they want to replace native americans were there. this is not in the fringes any more. you have in mainstream politicians who are talking about this and a man like this, this 18—year—old kid,
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whose reading online and growing hate out of what he's reading. what's your message to the politicians?— what's your message to the politicians? what's your message to the oliticians? ., �* ., ,, g , ,., politicians? you're weak. my message to them is simply _ politicians? you're weak. my message to them is simply you're _ politicians? you're weak. my message to them is simply you're weak. - politicians? you're weak. my message to them is simply you're weak. only i to them is simply you're weak. only a person who has no identity and does not know who they are, threatened by the next person, and a weak person is the most dangerous person because a weak person doesn't realise, if they would just believe in themselves and understand who they are. they wouldn't have to be threatened by anyone else, but these politicians who declare that they have to somehow declare supremacy over another at these politicians and folks who declare that other ethnicities are inferior to them, it's because they don't know who they are. this is why blacks in america thrive today, because we know who we are, we know what we're
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made of and because we've been through struggle, we've been through strife, we've been torn down, they've tried to break us but we're still here, and we will continue to stand strong. that's why we're not threatened, we're not intimidated and we will not live in fear of though they try to rock our communities with this heinous act. we will not be moved. although we are hurting in our hearts are broken, we will still stand strong and stand tall because we know who we are. more from foremost, i know for myself i am a child of god, of the most hiking, and because of that, ifear no man. —— the most high king. knowing that god is in control, knowing that god is in charge of all things, knowing that god is all—powerful and all—knowing, he knows what we're dealing with,
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and my bible teaches me that you will not put us through anything that we cannot handle. what does that we cannot handle. what does that say about these minorities? what does this say about the folks are not going around propagating messages of hate and evil and of superiority? that says to us that we know who we are, and we are very, very resilient, we are very loving and forgiving, and even this, although it hurts now, we know it will pass, but because of our past and because of what our forefathers and because of what our forefathers and mothers had gone through, even as far back as the middle passage, staying alive on a ship, being packed on top of each other, making that long journey across the atlantic — we have made it a very long way. even to the point where a black man sat in the white house and a black woman now is the vice president of the united states of america. the mayor of the city of buffalo is black, the chairman was a
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black woman, the majority of our state is black women, the majority of the assembly is a black woman. we have come a very long way. we're not done. if our existence threatens you, learn your own history, learn who you are and stop being... that's my message. ran who you are and stop being... that's my message-— my message. ron christie, 86-year-old _ my message. ron christie, 86-year-old ruth - my message. ron christie, | 86-year-old ruth whitfield my message. ron christie, i 86-year-old ruth whitfield is my message. ron christie, - 86-year-old ruth whitfield is no 86—year—old ruth whitfield is no less american than the man who carried out this attack. why is this replacement theory now mainstream? 0ne why is this replacement theory now mainstream? one in three american adults believe there is a group of people trying to replace native americans for electoral purposes, and the likes of learning —— lauren bobert and marjorie taylor greene of this world, they can now drive on that. ~ , ., ., , that. when you grow up in california, _ that. when you grow up in california, i— that. when you grow up in california, i grew - that. when you grow up in california, i grew up - that. when you grow up in california, i grew up when | that. when you grow up in | california, i grew up when i that. when you grow up in - california, i grew up when i was in high school, the borders were open
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to allow people to come across from the southern state. and drop anchor babies _ the southern state. and drop anchor babies that— the southern state. and drop anchor babies. that would then be american citizens— babies. that would then be american citizens and _ babies. that would then be american citizens and bring their relatives there _ citizens and bring their relatives there. this is been going on for 30, ao, there. this is been going on for 30, 40. 50 _ there. this is been going on for 30, 40. 50 years. — there. this is been going on for 30, 40, 50 years, but your point is well taken _ 40, 50 years, but your point is well taken this is — 40, 50 years, but your point is well taken. this is remarkably mainstream now _ taken. this is remarkably mainstream now this— taken. this is remarkably mainstream now this is— taken. this is remarkably mainstream now. this is something many republicans on the fringe who are elected _ republicans on the fringe who are elected officials are articulating, and will— elected officials are articulating, and will i — elected officials are articulating, and will i grieve with the pastor, i grieve _ and will i grieve with the pastor, i grieve with — and will i grieve with the pastor, i grieve with the powerful men and what _ grieve with the powerful men and what he _ grieve with the powerful men and what he says it is about —— exactly right, _ what he says it is about —— exactly right, this — what he says it is about —— exactly right, this is — what he says it is about —— exactly right, this is a sign of weakness by these _ right, this is a sign of weakness by these people who lead us and don't believe _ these people who lead us and don't believe and are monarch in the united — believe and are monarch in the united states, out of many, one. the one thing _ united states, out of many, one. the one thing we — united states, out of many, one. the one thing we are as americans and we come _ one thing we are as americans and we come from all over the place, and we have assimilated so well here in this country that we didn't have the first african—american president of the united — first african—american president of the united states. —— we did. there
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are people — the united states. —— we did. there are people who have hate in their hearts— are people who have hate in their hearts and — are people who have hate in their hearts and we saw is out there care -- south _ hearts and we saw is out there care —— south carolina recently, someone who opened — —— south carolina recently, someone who opened fire on a predominantly african—american church, but as a community, — african—american church, but as a community, i— african—american church, but as a community, i would say to you, christian. — community, i would say to you, christian, that the result is firm, the desire — christian, that the result is firm, the desire to move past hatred is something that we will do, but we must _ something that we will do, but we must find — something that we will do, but we must find a — something that we will do, but we must find a way to have the courage to shutdown must find a way to have the courage to shut down these individuals who spew— to shut down these individuals who spew hatred, for people who spew love _ spew hatred, for people who spew love. . . ., , , spew hatred, for people who spew love. . . , love. natalie, the mass shootings are predominantly _ love. natalie, the mass shootings are predominantly american - love. natalie, the mass shootings - are predominantly american problems. there have been over 200 this year, but this theory of hate which has found in america, that's not american, because it's here as well. absolutely. when the americans talk about _ absolutely. when the americans talk about replacement, _ absolutely. when the americans talk about replacement, there _ absolutely. when the americans talk about replacement, there is- absolutely. when the americans talk about replacement, there is an - about replacement, there is an american — about replacement, there is an american twist—
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about replacement, there is an american twist to _ about replacement, there is an american twist to it, _ about replacement, there is an american twist to it, but - about replacement, there is an american twist to it, but if- about replacement, there is an american twist to it, but if you | american twist to it, but if you look— american twist to it, but if you took at — american twist to it, but if you took at it. _ american twist to it, but if you look at it, it's _ american twist to it, but if you look at it, it's not _ american twist to it, but if you look at it, it's not far- american twist to it, but if you look at it, it's not far removedj look at it, it's not far removed from _ look at it, it's not far removed from the — look at it, it's not far removed from the kind _ look at it, it's not far removed from the kind of— look at it, it's not far removed from the kind of debates - look at it, it's not far removed from the kind of debates thatl from the kind of debates that populist _ from the kind of debates that populist parties _ from the kind of debates that populist parties in _ from the kind of debates that populist parties in europe - from the kind of debates that| populist parties in europe and from the kind of debates that - populist parties in europe and the media _ populist parties in europe and the media associated _ populist parties in europe and the media associated with _ populist parties in europe and the media associated with them - populist parties in europe and the media associated with them bring populist parties in europe and the - media associated with them bring out and talk— media associated with them bring out and talk about — media associated with them bring out and talk about migration. _ media associated with them bring out and talk about migration. so, - media associated with them bring out and talk about migration. so, it's - and talk about migration. so, it's really— and talk about migration. so, it's really the — and talk about migration. so, it's really the same _ and talk about migration. so, it's really the same kind _ and talk about migration. so, it's really the same kind of— and talk about migration. so, it's really the same kind of fuelling i and talk about migration. so, it's| really the same kind of fuelling of politics _ really the same kind of fuelling of politics of— really the same kind of fuelling of politics of fear, _ really the same kind of fuelling of politics of fear, and _ really the same kind of fuelling of politics of fear, and i— really the same kind of fuelling of politics of fear, and i think- really the same kind of fuelling of politics of fear, and i think fear. politics of fear, and i think fear is exactly— politics of fear, and i think fear is exactly the _ politics of fear, and i think fear is exactly the point _ politics of fear, and i think fear is exactly the point here. - politics of fear, and i think fear is exactly the point here. and i is exactly the point here. and relying — is exactly the point here. and relying on— is exactly the point here. and relying on that _ is exactly the point here. and relying on that identity - is exactly the point here. and relying on that identity that i relying on that identity that revolves _ relying on that identity that revolves around _ relying on that identity that revolves around fear - relying on that identity that revolves around fear in - relying on that identity that revolves around fear in the | relying on that identity that - revolves around fear in the sense of a toss _ revolves around fear in the sense of a loss of— revolves around fear in the sense of a loss of identity, _ revolves around fear in the sense of a loss of identity, and _ revolves around fear in the sense of a loss of identity, and i— revolves around fear in the sense of a loss of identity, and i think- a loss of identity, and i think what's — a loss of identity, and i think what's extremely— a loss of identity, and i think what's extremely importantl a loss of identity, and i think. what's extremely important to highlight— what's extremely important to highlight here _ what's extremely important to highlight here is _ what's extremely important to highlight here is that - what's extremely important to highlight here is that what - what's extremely important to . highlight here is that what we've seen _ highlight here is that what we've seen in — highlight here is that what we've seen in buffalo— highlight here is that what we've seen in buffalo and _ highlight here is that what we've seen in buffalo and many- highlight here is that what we've seen in buffalo and many other. seen in buffalo and many other incidents— seen in buffalo and many other incidents and _ seen in buffalo and many other incidents and crimes _ seen in buffalo and many other incidents and crimes of - seen in buffalo and many other incidents and crimes of this - seen in buffalo and many otherl incidents and crimes of this kind seen in buffalo and many other. incidents and crimes of this kind is the tip _ incidents and crimes of this kind is the tip of— incidents and crimes of this kind is the tip of the — incidents and crimes of this kind is the tip of the iceberg, _ incidents and crimes of this kind is the tip of the iceberg, but- incidents and crimes of this kind is the tip of the iceberg, but in- incidents and crimes of this kind is the tip of the iceberg, but in orderj the tip of the iceberg, but in order to address — the tip of the iceberg, but in order to address the problem, _ the tip of the iceberg, but in order to address the problem, you - the tip of the iceberg, but in order to address the problem, you need| the tip of the iceberg, but in order. to address the problem, you need to look at _ to address the problem, you need to look at the _ to address the problem, you need to look at the entire _ to address the problem, you need to look at the entire iceberg. _ to address the problem, you need to look at the entire iceberg. in - look at the entire iceberg. in essence _ look at the entire iceberg. in essence, the _ look at the entire iceberg. in essence, the ways _ look at the entire iceberg. in essence, the ways which - look at the entire iceberg. in - essence, the ways which replacement theory— essence, the ways which replacement theory is _ essence, the ways which replacement theory is at _ essence, the ways which replacement theory is at times _ essence, the ways which replacement theory is at times being _ essence, the ways which replacement theory is at times being stressed - essence, the ways which replacement theory is at times being stressed in l theory is at times being stressed in what may— theory is at times being stressed in
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what may look— theory is at times being stressed in what may look like, _ theory is at times being stressed in what may look like, as _ theory is at times being stressed in what may look like, as you - theory is at times being stressed in what may look like, as you said, i what may look like, as you said, more _ what may look like, as you said, more mainstream _ what may look like, as you said, more mainstream language. it'sj more mainstream language. it's exactly— more mainstream language. it's exactly that _ more mainstream language. it's exactly that bottom _ more mainstream language. it's exactly that bottom of _ more mainstream language. it's exactly that bottom of the i more mainstream language. it's i exactly that bottom of the iceberg that needs — exactly that bottom of the iceberg that needs to _ exactly that bottom of the iceberg that needs to be _ exactly that bottom of the iceberg that needs to be tackled - exactly that bottom of the iceberg that needs to be tackled in- exactly that bottom of the iceberg that needs to be tackled in order. exactly that bottom of the iceberg i that needs to be tackled in order to ensure that — that needs to be tackled in order to ensure that the _ that needs to be tackled in order to ensure that the tips _ that needs to be tackled in order to ensure that the tips do _ that needs to be tackled in order to ensure that the tips do not - that needs to be tackled in order to ensure that the tips do not exist. i ensure that the tips do not exist. indeed — ensure that the tips do not exist. indeed iti— ensure that the tips do not exist. indeed. , ., ensure that the tips do not exist. indeed. ,. ., �* indeed. if you don't mind, christian, _ indeed. if you don't mind, christian, i would - indeed. if you don't mind, christian, i would like i indeed. if you don't mind, christian, i would like to l indeed. if you don't mind, l christian, i would like to ask indeed. if you don't mind, - christian, i would like to ask for a point of clarification regarding the term you use, native americans. who are you referring to? this term you use, native americans. who are you referring to?— are you referring to? this is the language that — are you referring to? this is the language that they _ are you referring to? this is the language that they use. - are you referring to? this is the language that they use. i - are you referring to? this is the l language that they use. i imagine that when this con man talks about native americans, he's talking about white americans, right? he’s white americans, right? he's referrin: white americans, right? he's referring to _ white americans, right? he's referring to native _ white americans, right? he�*s referring to native americans as white americans, but let me just help... help the viewers understand something. when americans use the term native americans, we're not talking about white folks, we're talking about white folks, we're talking about white folks, we're talking about the natives, the indigenous folks who were here when the settlers got here. we're talking
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about the indigenous folks who were here when the settlers and the colonisers got here, so no, the native americans are those who are indigenous to this land, those who were here when we got here. including africans in america. it’s including africans in america. it's an important clarification. as i said, the 86—year—old lady who was a shotin said, the 86—year—old lady who was a shot in the grocery stores was no less american than the man who pulled the trigger, and that's an important point to remember. pastor, i know you have a lot of people in your church and you've got a lot of heavy days ahead of you in the coming week, but we send you our best wishes. thank you for coming on. ., ~' best wishes. thank you for coming on. ., ~ , ., if you're travelling to europe this next week, you might be able to dispense with the face mask. from today, the eu's aviation safety committee has relaxed its guidance. although there are still 12 of the the 27 eu countries will require you to wear one on—in bound flights. they are germany, greece, italy, spain, portugal, austria, cyprus, estonia, lithuania, malta,
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the netherlands and luxembourg. italy is keeping its mandate in place until the middle of next month, and they still requires passengers to wear masks on public transport. where natalie is. france, however, has lifted the mandate. in the united states, the federal mask mandate you might remember was overturned in federal court. the cases in the us are starting to tick up again, although you can see from this graph they are far from the peak a few months ago. ican i can sort of understand why the italians have kept the mass mandate in place. it was so horrendous in the first wave. i think psychologically, the italians will need some reassuring. i psychologically, the italians will need some reassuring.- psychologically, the italians will need some reassuring. i think it's reassurance _ need some reassuring. i think it's reassurance and _ need some reassuring. i think it's reassurance and i _ need some reassuring. i think it's reassurance and i do _ need some reassuring. i think it's reassurance and i do wonder, - need some reassuring. i think it's reassurance and i do wonder, i i need some reassuring. i think it's i reassurance and i do wonder, i was actually thinking about this just a couple days ago. i was in estonia and a conference, 200 people, none wearing masks. i can imagine something like that happening today,
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regardless of the rules. i do think that beyond differences and rules that beyond differences and rules that may be changing at different times and speeds in different member states, there are some countries, and mine was the first in line, where the trauma was so big that it has changed private and public practices but i think will linger on regardless of where and how the rules will change.— regardless of where and how the rules will change. ron, the mask mandate, when _ rules will change. ron, the mask mandate, when i _ rules will change. ron, the mask mandate, when i was _ rules will change. ron, the mask mandate, when i was in - rules will change. ron, the mask mandate, when i was in america | mandate, when i was in america recently, it looks as if it's gone by the way. a lot of people in california, no one was wearing one, not even in restaurants. do you think the public to move on? is a business as usual? i think the public to move on? is a business as usual?— business as usual? i think so. i would say _ business as usual? i think so. i would say that _ business as usual? i think so. i would say that guardedly. - business as usual? i think so. i | would say that guardedly. many business as usual? i think so. i i would say that guardedly. many of the ridesharing companies still require — the ridesharing companies still require you to wear masks. i'm not travelling _ require you to wear masks. i'm not travelling and flying, i still wear one on— travelling and flying, i still wear one on the lane. ijust feel safer
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being _ one on the lane. ijust feel safer being in— one on the lane. ijust feel safer being in educator —— on the plane. i want _ being in educator —— on the plane. i want to— being in educator —— on the plane. i want to lake — being in educator —— on the plane. i want to take the extra step to make sure they're — want to take the extra step to make sure they're safe from covid. | want to take the extra step to make sure they're safe from covid. i was lookin: at sure they're safe from covid. i was looking at the _ sure they're safe from covid. i was looking at the caseload _ sure they're safe from covid. i was looking at the caseload in - sure they're safe from covid. inn—3 looking at the caseload in america. we're at 999,642, that awful landmark number, almost upon us. how will people react to that? well. landmark number, almost upon us. how will people react to that?— will people react to that? well, i read in the _ will people react to that? well, i read in the wall _ will people react to that? well, i read in the wall street _ will people react to that? well, i read in the wall street journal. will people react to that? well, i l read in the wall street journal that read in the wall street journal that we just— read in the wall street journal that we just passed that. we hit the million — we just passed that. we hit the million dollar figure. there's a lot of trepidation. we've had a a lot of students picking us up, and people aren't sure what the new normal — people aren't sure what the new normal is now. they've heard so much from _ normal is now. they've heard so much from elected _ normal is now. they've heard so much from elected officials of wear a mask, — from elected officials of wear a mask, you _ from elected officials of wear a mask, you don't have to, you should now you _ mask, you don't have to, you should now you don't — mask, you don't have to, you should now you don't have to. they're looking — now you don't have to. they're looking at _ now you don't have to. they're looking at that and saying we're not getting _ looking at that and saying we're not getting good guidance from those that we _ getting good guidance from those that we elect to help us through a crisis _ that we elect to help us through a crisis like — that we elect to help us through a crisis like the one we're facing right— crisis like the one we're facing right now _
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crisis like the one we're facing right now-— crisis like the one we're facing right now. crisis like the one we're facing riaht now. . �* , ., ., right now. yeah, ok, i'll be on a flirht to right now. yeah, ok, i'll be on a flight to europe _ right now. yeah, ok, i'll be on a flight to europe this _ right now. yeah, ok, i'll be on a flight to europe this weekend i right now. yeah, ok, i'll be on a| flight to europe this weekend and will wear my mask because i'm going to italy, where natalie is. some breaking news. we were telling you about the dozen or so buses that have left the azovstal plant carrying soldiers. apparently, those buses have now arrived in a ukrainian town currently held by russian troops. these are the images that we've just got in, showing people on those buses. we don't know how many were on the buses, but we know there were around 40 wounded fighters that were in desperate need of help among them, some of them had amputations. 0f of help among them, some of them had amputations. of course, quite difficult for amputations to be carried out in the tunnels in which they were hiding. there was no medical care, no proper bandages, but there are still around 600 fighters in the plant and a witness says some of the evacuees that were carried out of the buses were on
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stretchers. it was recorded earlier that russia agreed to give medical support to the wounded fighters at a hospital where they would then become prisoners of war. earlier, the ukrainian military said that was not —— does not mean that they have surrendered the azovstal plant. did you watch the eurovision song contest this weekend?- you watch the eurovision song contest this weekend? i contest this weekend? white black i can't sa i contest this weekend? white black i can't say i did- _ you missed a good show. ukraine won the uk came second. i don't know where we got those points from. in any case, the band has returned, the band members. the group was greeted by military personnel, who turned up with a bouquet of flowers, at which point, the band broke into this impromptu
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rendition of their winning song, stefania. they sing and ukrainian they sing in ukrainian if you needed a sign of how much therapy in public is behind ukraine, how about this? in the public vote, 28 of the 39 countries gave ukraine the maximum 12 points and another eight countries gave them ten points. it's pretty humbling, to think that there they were on stage this weekend, probably the highlight of their lives, now they're going back to the front lines to fight. it is. and i think this is actually intimately connected to why they got
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this boat. this is a vote for them, but frankly, this is a vote for ukraine, and the way in which ukraine, and the way in which ukraine is resisting in this war has made us as europeans in a sense rediscover the best part of us as not europeans, but as human beings. i really do think that there is a reason why they won and they won by popular vote. it’s reason why they won and they won by popular vote-— popular vote. it's a remarkable thin , popular vote. it's a remarkable thing. the _ popular vote. it's a remarkable thing, the contest. _ popular vote. it's a remarkable thing, the contest. i'm - popular vote. it's a remarkable thing, the contest. i'm trying l popular vote. it's a remarkable | thing, the contest. i'm trying to think what the equivalent would be in america, but it sort of brings everyone in europe together. around this rather zany music show. of course there's a lot of politics mixed in on it, but the thing that shone through at the weekend was that all the european people were thinking, and the same direction. they were thinking about ukraine. you could see it in the boat. i think it's really cool. we have something equivalent to a america's
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.ot something equivalent to a america's got talent _ something equivalent to a america's got talent and people can vote. people — got talent and people can vote. people can vote and offer their support, — people can vote and offer their support, but i think it underscores something — support, but i think it underscores something very important, that the european _ something very important, that the european community seems to be not only rallying behind the ukrainian people. _ only rallying behind the ukrainian people, but also taking a stand and saying _ people, but also taking a stand and saying we're not going to put up to the worst— saying we're not going to put up to the worst aggression we've seen from the worst aggression we've seen from the russian _ the worst aggression we've seen from the russian federation. from the end of world _ the russian federation. from the end of world war ii. we're not going to take it _ of world war ii. we're not going to take it we — of world war ii. we're not going to take it. we will remain united, which — take it. we will remain united, which is — take it. we will remain united, which is what i get from watching these _ which is what i get from watching these clips and these folks going back after this high honour to fight and die _ back after this high honour to fight and die for— back after this high honour to fight and die fortheir back after this high honour to fight and die for their country says a lot about— and die for their country says a lot about their— and die for their country says a lot about their character and their resolve — about their character and their resolve to _ about their character and their resolve to remain.— about their character and their resolve to remain. doesn't it 'ust? the resolve to remain. doesn't it 'ust? rhe american i resolve to remain. doesn't it 'ust? the american 's i resolve to remain. doesn't itjust? the american 's unconscious, - resolve to remain. doesn't itjust? the american 's unconscious, is i resolve to remain. doesn't itjust? l the american 's unconscious, is that the equivalent of your vision —— song contest. anyway, there we are. nathalie tocci and ron christie,
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thank you for your company and we will be bait —— be back same tomorrow. good night. hello. spring so far has brought a lot of talk about how relatively dry it's been, particularly across some parts of england, and especially further south. there are some changes now. thundery downpours across parts of southern england, the isle of wight overnight and into monday morning, adding to what has been some fairly decent rainfall at the weekend — the isle of wight, 28mm of rain, more than in the previous six weeks. still drier than average for spring so far, but it's a somewhat healthy state of affairs compared with just a few weeks ago. and there is a bit more rain in the forecast. low pressure sitting to the west of us, dragging in weather fronts with rain or indeed thundery downpours at times. the flow of air for now, though, around that area of low pressure, well, it's a warm and it's a rather humid one as well.
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and both wet and warm weather in evidence during tuesday, turning wetter across western parts — northern ireland, western scotland, wales, the western side of england. rain more widespread, heavy into the afternoon. in complete contrast, though, across eastern parts, becoming very warm with the sunny spells in the afternoon, the highest temperatures of the year so far in the uk, up to around 26 degrees celsius in the london area, with high uv and high pollen levels as well, and the chance of thunderstorms to end the day. rain and thunderstorms from this weather front clearing through overnight and into wednesday morning, then a quieter day. still with a few showers around, especially in the morning in scotland. you can see the extent of sunny spells elsewhere. another weather front approaching northern ireland late in the day, and ahead of that we could well be throwing up a few thundery downpours, again across parts of wales and southern england from the south, though fairly hit and miss. some more wet weather pushing through overnight and into thursday, and still by thursday morning, the chance of seeing some thundery downpours across parts of south—east england and east anglia, before clearing away.
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the odd shower elsewhere, but for many places on thursday, it'll be a fine day with sunny spells and temperatures just starting to come down a little bit. and low pressure is getting closer to us by the time we get to friday, and it does mean that there's another weather front heading towards us, and that means there's going to be some more rain around. whilst most of that is targeted across northern and western areas, it will swing on through, and there is still the chance for some quite hefty bursts of thundery rain across some spots, even across towards the south at times. this is where we'll see the higher temperatures, though, still keeping into the low 20s, mid to high teens elsewhere. so, going into the weekend, the low pressure that's been sitting to the west of us looks like it drifts across northern areas. it will produce a lot of showers around here, and the wind changing direction — it's more of a westerly rather than a south—westerly. that's coming from a fresh direction, so temperatures will be coming down closer to average for the time of year, with throughout the weekend a mixture of sunny spells and showers around, a lot
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of those across scotland, northern ireland and northern england, but still a few showers popping up to the south as well. now as we look at things beyond that and into the start of next week, now, as we look at things beyond that and into the start of next week, it looks like high pressure to the west of us, low pressure to the east of us, and if anything the flow of air turning more north—westerly, turning a little cooler still, and coming down in that flow maybe a few bands of rain with some showers occasionally, too. so, from the weekend, compared with warmth and humidity at the moment, cooler and fresher, temperatures coming down nearer to average for the time of year into next week, maybe a bit below in a few spots. there will be sunny spells and there'll be some showers around, too, adding to those spring rainfall totals. that's your weather for the week ahead.
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we have an extended report from eastern ukraine, where volunteer forces are facing some of the heaviest fighting of the war so far. they simply cannot let the russians through here. if they do, more ukrainian troops to the south in the donbas will be under threat. so they're hanging on for dear life here. we'll have more on the state of the conflict, and the analysis of the uk chief of defence staff. also tonight... borisjohnson, on a visit to northern ireland, accepts that the political deadlock there is a result of his brexit deal. a warning from the bank of england that rising food prices, partly because of the war in ukraine, could reach "apocalyptic" levels.

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