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hello, i'm nuala mcgovern. you're watching the context on bbc news. eu leaders have reached political agreement to ban 90% of oil imports from russia but are split over gas imports. captured as a prisoner of war — we hear the story of one ukrainian soldier about his treatment — at the hands of his russian captors. translation: i couldn't feed myself because my jaw was broken - and i couldn't sit up but some nurses would taunt me by leaving food down in front of me and say, "try and eat that, you lowlife ukrainian." tennis star andy murray — who survived the dunblane school shooting as a child — calls for changes to america's gun laws — after 19 children and 2 adults were killed in texas. you know, i get over there, like,
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there's always talk about it being so unpolitical but ijust don't see how it is. tonight with the context, lord bilimoria — president of the confederation of british industry and founder of cobra beer — and ron christie — former senior advisor to president george w bush. welcome to the programme. after weeks of dicussions, eu leaders have agreed on a partial embargo of russian oil imports. the plan is expected to affect up to 90% of russian oil imports by the end of the year. it will only affect oil that arrives by sea — that's around two thirds of imports. but not pipeline oil, following strong opposition from hungary. first, this is the eu's foreign policy chief.
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we were in versaille bursae a few weeks ago, not many observers would've thought it would've been possible for us only in a few weeks to take such a concrete and historic decision. we have decided to sanction russia by banning russian oil, this is extremely important and we will succeed in the following months to implement that decision and ursula is right when she said that it will break the financing of the russian war machine, this is our goal. kyiv had been calling for tougher sanctions from the eu on russian energy for months and it's clear to see why. every year the eu spends about $1i30—billion on russian energy. which has helped fund the russian war effort. russia currently supplies about 27% of the eu's oil. many countries in the eu are much more heavily reliant — as you can see lithuania, finland, slovakia and poland all get more than half their oilfrom russia. then there's gas — the eu relies on russia for 40% of it's gas imports. but remember, there are still no sanctions
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on russian gas exports to the eu — yet. in response to the move, russia's state oil giant gazprom has announced it is cutting off gas flows to denmark's orsted company and turning off shell energy's gas supply for its german contracts — effective tomorrow. remember gazprom has already cut off gas supplies to poland, bulgaria, finland and the netherlands. so how might putin be feeling about the move and will it force a strategic recalculation? here's our russia editor steve rosenberg. i suspect that vladimir putin will not be sitting in the kremlin right now thinking, "oh my goodness, i've miscalculated, i've "underestimated the economic consequences of for my country, "i'm going to pull my troops out of the ukraine." i can't see that happening. more likely, based on the anti—western rhetoric he's been coming out with in recent weeks, president putin will be saying to himself, "0k, europe, citizens of europe, "you're already experiencing a degree of economic pain,
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"expect more of that now as a result of this oil embargo." let's talk now to olga khakova — a deputy director at the atlantic council global energy center and an expert on european energy security. welcome to the context. do you think this will really make a difference, particularly for those ukrainians that are feeling so under pressure at the moment? i that are feeling so under pressure at the moment?— that are feeling so under pressure at the moment? i think everything comes down _ at the moment? i think everything comes down to — at the moment? i think everything comes down to sanctions - at the moment? i think everything comes down to sanctions and - at the moment? i think everything comes down to sanctions and all i at the moment? i think everything i comes down to sanctions and all the latest packages all comes down to is reducing russia's revenue and their ability to fund in ukraine. this is an excellentjumping off point. to say this is efficient, and off would not be fair. i think this is a great start, i would say it is a few months too late, it would've been great to see this package go through several months earlier. but it is still a giant enormous,
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unprecedented achievement and a huge re—routing of how european energy policy. i do want to make sure that we are celebrating this milestone but at the same time, understanding this is not enough. more must be done to actually decrease significantly any revenue that russia is making off oil and also gas. russia is making off oil and also as. , . , russia is making off oil and also as. , russia is making off oil and also as, , ., gas. gas may be further down the line. gas. gas may be further down the line- wasn't _ gas. gas may be further down the line. wasn't it _ gas. gas may be further down the line. wasn't it interesting - gas. gas may be further down the line. wasn't it interesting as - gas. gas may be further down the line. wasn't it interesting as we i line. wasn't it interesting as we watched over the past few days what concessions are to be given or what compromises had to be reached, particularly hungry. perhaps we are seeing friction or fissures between some of the member states when it comes to how to move forward within this war. ., ., , ., comes to how to move forward within this war. ., ., ,, , comes to how to move forward within this war. ., ., , ., , this war. how do you see it? absolutely- _ this war. how do you see it? absolutely. i— this war. how do you see it? absolutely. i think— this war. how do you see it? absolutely. i think initially . this war. how do you see it? - absolutely. i think initially moscow and putin, were really betting on their initial aggression dividing europe, dividing transatlantic cooperation and instead we've seen an unprecedented unification across the eu on a lot of issues and
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smaller arguments being put to the side for a little bit. same thing with the transatlantic partnership, this has been at its peak was up at same time, several months into the war now, going into the fourth month, we are starting to see certain features within the eu because different countries have different energy mixes. and different energy mixes. and different access to weather its pipeline or terminals, so for them they are coming from a different perspective in their energy security options. therefore, some are coming from that perspective as well. once again, ithink from that perspective as well. once again, i think there are opportunities to find compromise like we saw yesterday, and making exceptions as we saw countries that are landlocked without allowing smaller disagreements to stand in the way of a bigger picture, which is getting the package across the line. 50 is getting the package across the line. ,
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is getting the package across the line, , ., line. so interesting. let me turn to ou as line. so interesting. let me turn to you as we — line. so interesting. let me turn to you as we talk _ line. so interesting. let me turn to you as we talk about _ line. so interesting. let me turn to you as we talk about this, - line. so interesting. let me turn to you as we talk about this, i - line. so interesting. let me turn to you as we talk about this, i was - you as we talk about this, i was listening to an mp from estonia earlier and he also talked about germany doesn't come under the criticism that hungary does. but they are still buying gas every day. our people looking in the right direction when it comes to cutting off funds to russia?— direction when it comes to cutting off funds to russia? right from the be . innin: off funds to russia? right from the beginning of— off funds to russia? right from the beginning of this _ off funds to russia? right from the beginning of this sad _ off funds to russia? right from the beginning of this sad war, - off funds to russia? right from the beginning of this sad war, started l beginning of this sad war, started on the _ beginning of this sad war, started on the 24th of february, we strayed away— on the 24th of february, we strayed away supported these sanctions. we went one _ away supported these sanctions. we went one step further, we also started — went one step further, we also started humanitarian help. we've been _ started humanitarian help. we've been happening with ration packages, food packages to individuals as supermarket shelves emptied in ukraine — supermarket shelves emptied in ukraine for that money has been donated — ukraine for that money has been donated and the british have been fantastic — donated and the british have been fantastic. what our businesses have been doing, many of the uk businesses have stopped doing
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business — businesses have stopped doing business with russia. stop exporting to russia, _ business with russia. stop exporting to russia, stopped importing from russia, _ to russia, stopped importing from russia, stopped investing in russia, 'ust russia, stopped investing in russia, just investing in russia, basically stopping — just investing in russia, basically stopping doing business with russia. that's_ stopping doing business with russia. that's what needs to be done and that's what we are seeing now. because — that's what we are seeing now. because we are not likely, dependent on russian _ because we are not likely, dependent on russian oil and gas, it's a tiny percentage _ on russian oil and gas, it's a tiny percentage. but for your paean countries — percentage. but for your paean countries it's almost 100% reliant on russian — countries it's almost 100% reliant on russian oil and gas. for them to make _ on russian oil and gas. for them to make this _ on russian oil and gas. for them to make this move is a very bold move and it— make this move is a very bold move and it sends — make this move is a very bold move and it sends a very strong signal. what's _ and it sends a very strong signal. what's happened is the russians thought— what's happened is the russians thought they could win this war in two days— thought they could win this war in two days but they did not expect is the way _ two days but they did not expect is the way we — two days but they did not expect is the way we have unified, the way we unified. _ the way we have unified, the way we unified, nato is stronger than ever. we in _ unified, nato is stronger than ever. we in europe including the united kingdom — we in europe including the united kingdom have united over here. as can be _ kingdom have united over here. as can be tough on us because inflation is a serious — can be tough on us because inflation is a serious problem. with that rapid _ is a serious problem. with that rapid inflation in most countries including — rapid inflation in most countries including the united kingdom. energy is a big _ including the united kingdom. energy is a big part of it. the danger if this move _ is a big part of it. the danger if this move is prices will go up and
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with that — this move is prices will go up and with that to deal with that. fortune favours _ with that to deal with that. fortune favours the — with that to deal with that. fortune favours the bold and i'm glad that europe _ favours the bold and i'm glad that europe has made this move now and we are unified _ europe has made this move now and we are unified in— europe has made this move now and we are unified in stopping this war. but suppose it depends how bold they would be going back to germany and their particular funding, would be going back to germany and their particularfunding, some would be going back to germany and their particular funding, some would say, russia as they continue to buy gas. how do you see it, ron christie? i gas. how do you see it, ron christie?— gas. how do you see it, ron christie? , ., , , . christie? i see a pretty much the same way _ christie? i see a pretty much the same way as _ christie? i see a pretty much the same way as he _ christie? i see a pretty much the same way as he has _ christie? i see a pretty much the same way as he hasjust - christie? i see a pretty much the - same way as he hasjust mentioned. i think ukraine — same way as he hasjust mentioned. i think ukraine obviously _ same way as he hasjust mentioned. i think ukraine obviously has _ same way as he hasjust mentioned. i think ukraine obviously has been - same way as he hasjust mentioned. i think ukraine obviously has been a i think ukraine obviously has been a bil think ukraine obviously has been a big bread — think ukraine obviously has been a big bread basket— think ukraine obviously has been a big bread basket for— think ukraine obviously has been a big bread basket for the _ think ukraine obviously has been a big bread basket for the europeanl big bread basket for the european continent — big bread basket for the european continent and _ big bread basket for the european continent and given _ big bread basket for the european continent and given the _ big bread basket for the european continent and given the fact - big bread basket for the european continent and given the fact that i continent and given the fact that they are — continent and given the fact that they are in — continent and given the fact that they are in conflict _ continent and given the fact that they are in conflict with - continent and given the fact that they are in conflict with russia, i continent and given the fact thati they are in conflict with russia, a war that — they are in conflict with russia, a war that was _ they are in conflict with russia, a war that was started... _ they are in conflict with russia, a war that was started... we wontl they are in conflict with russia, a - war that was started... we wont even get into— war that was started... we wont even get into that — war that was started... we wont even get into that. given _ war that was started... we wont even get into that. given the _ war that was started... we wont even get into that. given the fact _ war that was started... we wont even get into that. given the fact that - get into that. given the fact that so much — get into that. given the fact that so much grain— get into that. given the fact that so much grain comes _ get into that. given the fact that so much grain comes from - get into that. given the fact that. so much grain comes from ukraine, inflation is — so much grain comes from ukraine, inflation is rampant _ so much grain comes from ukraine, inflation is rampant in _ so much grain comes from ukraine, inflation is rampant in the - so much grain comes from ukraine, j inflation is rampant in the european continent. _ inflation is rampant in the european continent, inflation _ inflation is rampant in the european continent, inflation is _ inflation is rampant in the european continent, inflation is rampant - inflation is rampant in the european continent, inflation is rampant here| continent, inflation is rampant here in the _ continent, inflation is rampant here in the united — continent, inflation is rampant here in the united states _ continent, inflation is rampant here in the united states put— continent, inflation is rampant here in the united states put up- continent, inflation is rampant here in the united states put up and - continent, inflation is rampant here in the united states put up and wel in the united states put up and we are predicting _ in the united states put up and we are predicting $6 _
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in the united states put up and we are predicting $6 of— in the united states put up and we are predicting $6 of gasoline - in the united states put up and we are predicting $6 of gasoline herel are predicting $6 of gasoline here in the _ are predicting $6 of gasoline here in the states— are predicting $6 of gasoline here in the states by— are predicting $6 of gasoline here in the states by august. - are predicting $6 of gasoline here in the states by august. when - in the states by august. when looking — in the states by august. when looking at— in the states by august. when looking at bread _ in the states by august. when looking at bread prices, - in the states by august. when looking at bread prices, egg . in the states by august. when - looking at bread prices, egg prices, meat— looking at bread prices, egg prices, meat prices, — looking at bread prices, egg prices, meat prices, poultry— looking at bread prices, egg prices, meat prices, poultry going - looking at bread prices, egg prices, meat prices, poultry going up. - looking at bread prices, egg prices, meat prices, poultry going up. so. meat prices, poultry going up. so the war. — meat prices, poultry going up. so the war. if— meat prices, poultry going up. so the war. if it's _ meat prices, poultry going up. so the war, if it's gone on _ meat prices, poultry going up. so the war, if it's gone on in - meat prices, poultry going up. so the war, if it's gone on in ukrainej the war, if it's gone on in ukraine has had _ the war, if it's gone on in ukraine has had a — the war, if it's gone on in ukraine has had a tremendous— the war, if it's gone on in ukraine has had a tremendous ripple - the war, if it's gone on in ukraine. has had a tremendous ripple effect around the — has had a tremendous ripple effect around the world. _ has had a tremendous ripple effect around the world.— has had a tremendous ripple effect around the world. where do you see this auoin around the world. where do you see this going next? _ around the world. where do you see this going next? to _ around the world. where do you see this going next? to use _ around the world. where do you see this going next? to use consider - this going next? to use consider that pressure will continue? i did see the president zelensky was criticising that it took so long for this, the fifth and six packages of sanctions to take place. do you think it will be faster or more deeper cuts, perhaps?- think it will be faster or more deeper cuts, perhaps? yes. i think he was right _ deeper cuts, perhaps? yes. i think he was right to _ deeper cuts, perhaps? yes. i think he was right to criticise _ deeper cuts, perhaps? yes. i think he was right to criticise at - deeper cuts, perhaps? yes. i think he was right to criticise at how - he was right to criticise at how long these negotiations talk. but i think in terms of the next steps, it absolutely needs to be paired with reducing actual revenues. the end of the day, russian exports are not as much of an issue as the money that they are making. and they're taking
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that money and supporting their own economy was up at the worst case the aggression in ukraine and other countries around the world. hearing this, this isjumping up point, peering this with other mechanisms to minimise how much money they are able to make. initially as mentioned, oil prices will slightly go up. which in turn will actually increase revenue for russia. but as they turn to, try to turn to alternative markets, asia, india, china and they start seeking different discounts we might see those revenues starting to level out. need to be paired with mechanisms to reduce how much money they're making off their exports, whether they go to europe or asia. thank you. bringing up some of these aspects ron was mentioning about ukraine being the breadbasket of europe, you have been interested in the port of odesa that is currently blocked. i actually saw that there
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was one of the un officials saying millions could be at risk of hunger if that port does not become unblocked.— if that port does not become unblocked. . ., ., , ., ,, unblocked. what are you thinking? we've been — unblocked. what are you thinking? we've been working _ unblocked. what are you thinking? we've been working very _ unblocked. what are you thinking? we've been working very closely i unblocked. what are you thinking? i we've been working very closely with the ukraine _ we've been working very closely with the ukraine ambassador here in the uk and _ the ukraine ambassador here in the uk and his— the ukraine ambassador here in the uk and his team and deputy ambassador. he told me literally, 'ust ambassador. he told me literally, just recently a few days ago, he said i_ just recently a few days ago, he said i don't— just recently a few days ago, he said i don't think people have woken up said i don't think people have woken up to— said i don't think people have woken up to the _ said i don't think people have woken up to the reality that our ports are blocked, _ up to the reality that our ports are blocked, basically one big city port 0desa~ _ blocked, basically one big city port odesa. that's blocked. it's mind by the ukrainians to prevent the russians— the ukrainians to prevent the russians coming in in preventing anvthing — russians coming in in preventing anything coming in and out. there are seven — anything coming in and out. there are seven more ships that are now trapped _ are seven more ships that are now trapped in — are seven more ships that are now trapped in odesa at the moment, they cannot— trapped in odesa at the moment, they cannot get— trapped in odesa at the moment, they cannot get out. they are used are shipping — cannot get out. they are used are shipping all their cannot get out. they are used are shipping alltheir grain cannot get out. they are used are shipping all their grain which includes _ shipping all their grain which includes barley, wheat, sunflower, huge _ includes barley, wheat, sunflower, huge proportions of the worlds exports — huge proportions of the worlds exports go from ukraine by c. if it
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has to— exports go from ukraine by c. if it has to go— exports go from ukraine by c. if it has to go by— exports go from ukraine by c. if it has to go by rail and road, he told me it _ has to go by rail and road, he told me it would — has to go by rail and road, he told me it would take four to five years to empty — me it would take four to five years to empty the silos that are there in the ukraine — to empty the silos that are there in the ukraine now. if there's harvest this summer is harvested and those silos this summer is harvested and those sitos are _ this summer is harvested and those sitos are not— this summer is harvested and those silos are not empty it will rot. and david _ silos are not empty it will rot. and david beasley, the head of the un food programme early this month put out a report— food programme early this month put out a report and he said, this is not alarmist, if that port is not unblocked, if the grain does not flow by— unblocked, if the grain does not flow by boat we will have over 300 million people around the world facing _ million people around the world facing food shortages, famine and starvation — facing food shortages, famine and starvation. and the world cannot allow— starvation. and the world cannot allow that— starvation. and the world cannot allow that to happen. that is one of the most _ allow that to happen. that is one of the most crucial problems we have to solve _ the most crucial problems we have to solve is _ the most crucial problems we have to solve is a _ the most crucial problems we have to solve is a global community right now _ solve is a global community right now this— solve is a global community right now. this is a disaster staring us in the _ now. this is a disaster staring us in the face — now. this is a disaster staring us in the face. on top of all these other— in the face. on top of all these other moves we've got to unblocked up other moves we've got to unblocked up port _ other moves we've got to unblocked up port and — other moves we've got to unblocked up port and get that great flowing by c _ up port and get that great flowing by c |_ up port and get that great flowing b c. ~ ., ~ ., up port and get that great flowing by c. i know ukraine may be worried that russia —
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by c. i know ukraine may be worried that russia may _ by c. i know ukraine may be worried that russia may take _ by c. i know ukraine may be worried that russia may take advantage - that russia may take advantage of that russia may take advantage of that momentarily if in fact that happen. a you for that point. olga, thank you so much for bringing us your analysis and taking a look at where energy plays into this war. thank you for having me. after months of fighting, ukraine has become a crime scene. ukraine says it's identified more than 600 russian war crime suspects, and has started prosecuting around 80 of them. the list includes top military, politicians and what ukraine's prosecutor general called, "propaganda agents" of russia. estonia, latvia and slovakia havejoined ukraine, lithuania and poland in supporting an international investigation team in ukraine. former ambassador at large for criminal justice. former ambassador at large for criminaljustice. welcome back. the first thing when i'm hearing this story and some of the people that our players is the scale that i find very difficult to
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understand fully. how do you see it, how would you explain to our views? well, you have to look at the fact that there are thousands of shells falling on ukraine and last few days, literally tens of thousands of civilian buildings have been destroyed or substantially harmed. all of those are potential war crimes. the russians are conducting themselves not in the way they shows going after military targets, they are trying to just droid whole communities, create a situation of siege warfare, places like mario paul and it's not consistent for the geneva conventions and war. there a lot of war crimes in the terms and the things we saw in the area surrounding kyiv where the russians redrew. these personal acts, the shooting of civilians on bicycles,
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old women in their gardens. children and families that were trying to escape the area, people tortured in sellers or raped. those are automatically war crimes although they are sometimes difficult to attribute up the chain of command because the argument as they were by units. this enormous amount to investigate. obviously the ukrainian prosecutor has the primary jurisdiction for these events. and of course is looking at both and several high—level individuals that are responsible for sending these young men in these situations where these crimes are committed. but also, looking at the people she may be get into custody for the bikes to individuals that were pleaded guilty and sentenced to ii and a half years in a court today. and sentenced to 11 and a half years in a court today.— in a court today. when you talk about that _ in a court today. when you talk about that and _ in a court today. when you talk about that and some _ in a court today. when you talk about that and some of- in a court today. when you talk about that and some of the - in a court today. when you talk. about that and some of the figure she was putting forward as well, is
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either woman power or manpower to make that happen? were talking about a couple of individuals but this is talking about hundreds of people before we even talk about the leaders at the top of the chain. the prosecution — leaders at the top of the chain. tie: prosecution never leaders at the top of the chain. tte: prosecution never reaches leaders at the top of the chain. tt9 prosecution never reaches all of leaders at the top of the chain. t“t9 prosecution never reaches all of the perpetrators, it's a long effort. do keepin perpetrators, it's a long effort. do keep in mind the numbers of russian soldiers that might be available to prosecute, might have been captured on the field of battle when the ukrainians made gains are relatively small compared to the numbers that may have committed crimes. the actual trials that will move forward, like that young man last week and to this week, maybe relatively limiting. but what's really important in these kinds of things is one develops a case in terms of the conduct that shows the ways in which cities are bombarded is a war crime, which requires an
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intense amount of analysis, signal interceptions, other things because it will always be argued they were aiming at a military target when a hospital his head. then the analysis of the chain of command, where these units were operating that committed some of these awful acts of one can attribute responsibility to the officers that sent them into these situations. and potentially all the way up the chain of command to vladimir putin. understanding of course, the ukrainian prosecutor does not have the legal act to prosecute the leaders of a foreign state, she can't prosecute the president, defence minister, foreign minister but she can prosecutor everybody up to that level. if those cases are to be made they will have to be charged by the international criminal court that has jurisdiction and doesn't serve those communities. interesting as you lay it out, i am seeing the amount of work that is
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ahead of them and what is within or not of thejurisdiction. ahead of them and what is within or not of the jurisdiction. to talk about the other countries that have become involved, how significant is their participation, do you think and are there any countries you would like to see joy this investigation? i would like to see 'oy this investigation?_ would like to see 'oy this investigation? i think it is significant _ investigation? i think it is significant that _ investigation? i think it is significant that other - investigation? i think it is - significant that other countries join. this is a europeanjoint investigation team, something that's been developed over the last several years where members of the eu joined together with countries outside and jointly work on the same crime scene and combined their efforts, conduct interviews across borders, which otherwise is very complicated. we saw the benefit of that person ukraine actually come up with a shooting down of malaysian air flight, a task force, a joint investigative task with the most passengers that were shot down in the summer of 2014. also included
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the summer of 2014. also included the belgians, the ukrainians, malaysians and australians lost a lot of their citizens. they eventually developed a very strong case that's being tried now in amsterdam. albeit with absent accused in absentia. the same kind of thing involves countries that are all interested in what's going on and combined efforts frankly, i like to see the united states joined, that's been discussed as an associate members, the united kingdom, other countries because i see it as a way in which they can commit theirforces and see it as a way in which they can commit their forces and potentially join investigations in ukraine. the situation where an american was killed in ukraine, where there is jurisdiction, a reason for us to be interested and involved and their ways we can contribute with the skills to do these kind of investigations. understand also the international criminal court as a partner with these six countries and they will share the benefits of this
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and join in it. and one rate in particular the united states are just part of the icc can really benefit the investigation which i think is very much in our interest. we will see what happens if they take up the call, as you put out there. thank you forjoining us. andy murray has told the bbc of his upset and anger about the mass shootings at a school in texas, in which 19 children and two teachers were murdered. the tennis star was at dunblane primary school in 1996, when 16 pupils and a teacher were killed by a gunman, leading to much tighter firearms laws in the uk. itjust makes you feel angry and incredibly upset for the parents. i heard something on the radio the other day and it was a child from that school. i experienced a similar thing when i was at dunblane and a teacher coming out and waving all of the children under tables and telling them to go and hide.
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and there was a kid telling exactly the same story about how she survived it. they were saying that they go through these drills like, as young children, seven, eight—year—old children, and it's like how? how is that normal that children should be having to go through drills in case someone comes into school with a gun? i don't get it. this comes as the grieving town begins link to rusty 21 children and the teachers were killed. funerals for two girls are taking place today. one was ameriejo garza — described as a sweet, sassy and funny — who loved swimming and drawing and maite yuleana rodriguez was an honor student who loved learning about whales and dolphins and dreamed of becoming a marine biologist. let me turn to our panelists as we talk about this. president biden has been speaking about this over the past 20 minutes or so, just saying
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that he is looking at executive actions that he can take to combat gun violence. the private secretary did not provide details. she said biden does not support a ban on all he and guns in the aftermath of the shooting which did take place while we talked about the uk when andy murray was speaking about that happened right after. what do you think could be introduced? i happened right after. what do you think could be introduced?- think could be introduced? i think in this political— think could be introduced? i think in this political environment - in this political environment heading into a midterm election here in the united states, it can be very difficult to breach the threshold of 60 votes in the united states senate. when you're talking about what is in the realm of possible, what could they pass, what could actually make the presidents desk? i think it is very unlikely that you'll see significant legislation. what i do think you're going to see that you saw this with the president the other day signing an executive order, looking at police conduct. i
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think the president is going to try to take executive action, perhaps looking at manufacturer's liability, perhaps looking at ways to strengthen existing federal statutes. but by and large, my opinion is you're not going to find a significant legislation before november this year.— a significant legislation before november this year. yes. the police conduct, november this year. yes. the police conduct. this — november this year. yes. the police conduct, this but _ november this year. yes. the police conduct, this but definitely - november this year. yes. the police conduct, this but definitely been - conduct, this but definitely been discussions about that. so many feel that can be a diversion or a distraction from the larger issue of the number of guns that are in the country. i suppose the lack of compromise to have more gun controls, for example be introduced without as you look at this, i did feel for andy murray talk about children having to go through drills he found it unimaginable. perhaps the united states isjust he found it unimaginable. perhaps the united states is just a very different country from the uk. this is such a tragic— different country from the uk. this is such a tragic situation, just think— is such a tragic situation, just
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think of— is such a tragic situation, just think of what happened 25 years ago, dawn blaine. and here we are with america. _ dawn blaine. and here we are with america, this is happening time and again _ america, this is happening time and again if— america, this is happening time and again. if only americans covered were _ again. if only americans covered were knocking to stop americans being _ were knocking to stop americans being having the right to bear arms, over here _ being having the right to bear arms, over here we can but we've got really _ over here we can but we've got really strict, strict rules. for one hang _ really strict, strict rules. for one hang out— really strict, strict rules. for one hang out certain not allowed for civilians — hang out certain not allowed for civilians of — hang out certain not allowed for civilians of handguns with them if you have — civilians of handguns with them if you have a — civilians of handguns with them if you have a gun in this country you have _ you have a gun in this country you have to _ you have a gun in this country you have to go — you have a gun in this country you have to go through rigorous process applied _ have to go through rigorous process applied for— have to go through rigorous process applied for licence, your interviewed by police officer, you vetted _ interviewed by police officer, you vetted and that you have to carry a licence _ vetted and that you have to carry a licence at — vetted and that you have to carry a licence at all times, you can'tjust walk— licence at all times, you can'tjust walk into — licence at all times, you can'tjust walk into a — licence at all times, you can'tjust walk into a shop and just buy weapons _ walk into a shop and just buy weapons and by ammunition. you've -ot weapons and by ammunition. you've got to— weapons and by ammunition. you've got to have — weapons and by ammunition. you've got to have your licence at all times, — got to have your licence at all times, it's _ got to have your licence at all times, it's renewed every two years. if times, it's renewed every two years. if you _ times, it's renewed every two years. if you had _ times, it's renewed every two years. if you had rules like that in america. _ if you had rules like that in america, that would make a big difference, just that one making it much _ difference, just that one making it much more — difference, just that one making it much more difficult to get a licence, _ much more difficult to get a licence, much more difficult to buy guns _ licence, much more difficult to buy guns and _ licence, much more difficult to buy guns and ammunition those controls alone _ guns and ammunition those controls alone would make a big difference. they appellee should do that. that
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will help— they appellee should do that. that will help to prevent tragedies like this. will help to prevent tragedies like this |_ will help to prevent tragedies like this. ., will help to prevent tragedies like this. ,, , :, , will help to prevent tragedies like this. ,, , , :, :: this. i think i probably have 40 seconds or— this. i think i probably have 40 seconds or so, _ this. i think i probably have 40 seconds or so, from _ this. i think i probably have 40 seconds or so, from what - this. i think i probably have 40 seconds or so, from what i'm i seconds or so, from what i'm hearing, there is such a position to that. what about raising the age that. what about raising the age that somebody could buy a gun to 25, for example if alcohol is generally 21, could you see that ever coming in? t 21, could you see that ever coming in? :, :, , :, , :, in? i do. you see that in the state of florida where _ in? i do. you see that in the state of florida where the former - in? i do. you see that in the state i of florida where the former governor rick scott is now a member of the senate race that from 18 to 21. i think if this can be any significant legislation it'll come down to raising the minimum age of being able to purchase a firearm from 18 to 21. , , :, to 21. let see if there is movement. we are exoecting — to 21. let see if there is movement. we are expecting president - to 21. let see if there is movement. we are expecting president biden i to 21. let see if there is movement. | we are expecting president biden to come out and speak of some executive actions, when it comes to this particular aspect of course uvalde going through such a tough, tough week. those repercussions felt across the united states and people talking about it globally as well as
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we are here on the context. to stay with us if you can. hello again. today we've seen widespread showers across the whole of the uk. some of them being pretty heavy, driven in by some impressive clouds. this was a shelf cloud spotted in suffolk. these are sometimes associated with really vigorous active thunderstorms. we had a real big downpour going across hertfordshire around the elstree area and some inevitable localised surface water flooding from today's biggest thundery downpours. now, looking at the weather picture right now, on the radar, we can see some of the heaviest showers continue to affect eastern areas of england, and they're going to keep going for at that time yet into the first part of the evening. rain in northern ireland will push its way to wales as we go on through the night. and there will still be a few showers around in eastern scotland tending to become confined to the scottish borders by the end of the night.
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another cool night for the time of year. temperatures will drift down to 5—7 celsius is pretty widely. now, a look at the forecast into wednesday, that area of rain in wales is going to be pushing eastwards, as it does so, it's going to turn showery in nature, but those showers, again, we'll be heavy with some hail and thunder mixed in. at the same time, for many western areas, the weather should become drier and a bit sunnier, given a bit more sunshine, it will feel warmer. temperatures reaching a high of 17 celsius in glasgow, 18 celsius in cardiff. now, through thursday, pressure will start to rise just weakly across the uk. but the same time, we've got this little weather front trying to sneak in off the atlantic. so, most of scotland, england and wales looking fine with sunny spells, feeling warmer. for northern ireland, cloud will build to bring some showers or some longer outbreaks of rain here through the day. temperatures, given that we will have more sunshine for many areas, will be on the rise, 19 celsius in glasgow, but quite widely in the low 20s across england and wales. we keep that warm weather for most
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parts of the uk into friday. again, there could be a few showers or thunderstorms, mainly across northwestern areas, but it is a predominantly dry forecast with warm sunshine and temperatures reaching a high of 21 or 22 celsius towards southern parts of both england and wales. now, on into the weekend, we've got something of a spoiler coming up from the south. it looks like we will see at least showers, but probably more likely some heavy outbreaks of rain extending in across the south of the uk. so, we will keep the warm weather, mostly dry, sunny spells, but a chance of heavy rain developing across southern areas.
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hello, i'm nuala mcgovern. you're watching the context on bbc news. increasing pressure on borisjohnson — as his own ethics advisor says it's "legitimate" to question whether he broke the ministerial code. more senior conservatives put in letters calling for the prime minister to resign — but have they reached the number yet to trigger a leadership contest? only sir graham brady knows. you can always ask. people are very free to do that, and i shall retain my discretion. and the k— pop sensations bts visit the white house — to tell president biden they are "devastated" by anti—asian hate crimes. tonight with the context, lord bilimoria — president of the cbi and founder of cobra beer — and ron christie —
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former senior advisor to president george w bush. welcome back. here in the uk the row over lockdown parties in downing street could yet cost boris johnson his job. his own standards adviser says there is a "legitimate question" over whether the prime minister broke the ministerial code after getting fined for partygate. earlier another senior conservative — dame andrea leadsom added her voice to the criticism directed at borisjohnson —saying there were unacceptable failures of leadership over the parties that were the responsibility of the prime minister. if enough conservative mps send a letter to graham brady — it triggers a leadership contest. but only he knows how many — and he's keeping his cards, or letters, close to his chest.
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you can always ask, and i say people are very free to do that, and i shall retain my discretion and, you know, i can say nothing more. do you add up the letters daily, or how often do you look at them? it's not a regular pastime of mine. with that bagpipe soundtrack. let's speak to cat neilan, senior uk political editor at the insider. welcome and thanks forjoining us. how does it look to you? yes. welcome and thanks for 'oining us. how does it look to you? yes, well, in dancer how does it look to you? yes, well, in danger of — how does it look to you? yes, well, in danger of re-dash _ how does it look to you? yes, well, in danger of re-dash repeating - in danger of re—dash repeating events of january and february when it all felt tense, and then nothing happened. i think actually this time around, things do feel a bit different. a lot of people saying things cannot go on any longer, but a change in a type of people that are going public with their concerns and their frustrations and we have reached a tipping point or may be
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myriad. t reached a tipping point or may be m riad. :, :, , :, ,:, reached a tipping point or may be m riad. :, :,, :, :, myriad. i want to show you some of our reports. — myriad. i want to show you some of our reports, mentioned _ myriad. i want to show you some of our reports, mentioned it _ myriad. i want to show you some of| our reports, mentioned it therefrom —— to our the ways, i will pop it up for our viewers. actually, that is, let's listen to this, this is george freeman. he's delivered, got us out of the brexit gridlocked, delivered the pandemic vaccine success. so that was a little of george freeman first, which he is still defending the prime minister, he is saying that people know exactly what they were doing when they elected borisjohnson. i think he says that he's no saint, so to speak, but voicing his support. instead, when it comes to him, he instead said, and is this coming to the legitimate question he says i've attempted to avoid the independent adviser offering advice to a prime minister about a prime minister's obligations under his own ministerial code. if
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the prime minister or hisjudgment is that there is nothing to investigate or no case to answer, he would be bound to reject any such advice, thus forcing the resignation of the independent adviser. so if i've paraphrased that a little bit shorter than that where the text, it is basically a borisjohnson is not going to take the ethics advisers advice, what is the point of him being in thejob. and i am wondering, we have voices supporting him as i mentioned, and an mp, but there is also him coming out and saying, if he is not listening, who do you think borisjohnson needs to convince? the public or the politicians in his party? well, probably a bit of both, actually. i think of that threshold hasn't been reached and there is a lot of rumours and speculation that it may have already been reached, then the feeling is that it may well be reached on monday when and please come back to westminster after recess. they will be spending the next few days out
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and about that various different jubilee celebration speaking too sick to bash constituents and such —— association members as well who will be feeling a certain amount of frustrated, and know voters from speaking to a lot of conservative mps have been e—mailing him jibs and jabs to start off with and then, you know, every time a new story breaks, like last week but the report, that kind of kicks off even more. i think for a while it was the sense that it was sort of labour or a lib dem voters who always want to stick the bootin voters who always want to stick the boot in and would never really be likely to vote anyway so that they discount it in terms of that mask that mps are doing, but increasingly common for conservative voters who are saying this, and there is a sense that things have gone too far. and if you have a lot of voters and grassroots activists and people who might be donors saying we are not going to support you while he is the
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leader of your predicament and i think on monday, there will be certainly quite a few angry mps and few more letters going in. what few more letters going in. what number, few more letters going in. what number. we _ few more letters going in. what number, we just _ few more letters going in. what number, we just don't - few more letters going in. what number, we just don't know. i few more letters going in. what number, we just don't know. let me turn to you and that this particular aspect, borisjohnson is coming from aspect, borisjohnson is coming from a base they think that he doesn't believe he broke the ministerial code. do you think that matters at this point, or has it gone beyond whether he has broken it or not and it's my sequence of events and that he should be worried? he is it's my sequence of events and that he should be worried?— he should be worried? he is still very much _ he should be worried? he is still very much there, _ he should be worried? he is still very much there, and _ he should be worried? he is still very much there, and where - he should be worried? he is still- very much there, and where business is concerned. — very much there, and where business is concerned, you know, we are as a country— is concerned, you know, we are as a country is _ is concerned, you know, we are as a country is concerned, we are looking at leadership, and the true test of leadership— at leadership, and the true test of leadership is during the tough times — leadership is during the tough times. let's be fair the mother has been _ times. let's be fair the mother has been a _ times. let's be fair the mother has been a really tough time during covid, — been a really tough time during covid, the _ been a really tough time during covid, the pandemic for two years, then the _ covid, the pandemic for two years, then the ukraine war, than inflation from a _ then the ukraine war, than inflation from a cost—of—living crisis, we are, _ from a cost—of—living crisis, we are, the — from a cost—of—living crisis, we are, the government is dealing with one crisis— are, the government is dealing with one crisis after another, and this
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leadership— one crisis after another, and this leadership issue, at the moment and it's a conservative party issue, it's a conservative party issue, it's up— it's a conservative party issue, it's up to — it's a conservative party issue, it's up to the mp5 whether they want to take _ it's up to the mp5 whether they want to take this— it's up to the mp5 whether they want to take this forward. and if there is a leadership contest, we have to see what happens and we are not fair, _ see what happens and we are not fair, we _ see what happens and we are not fair, we are — see what happens and we are not fair, we are not there at all at this stage _ fair, we are not there at all at this stage. borisjohnson is still very— this stage. borisjohnson is still very much— this stage. borisjohnson is still very much the prime minister. but we are looking _ very much the prime minister. but we are looking for from businesses who ever is— are looking for from businesses who ever is the _ are looking for from businesses who ever is the leader, and you can't predict — ever is the leader, and you can't predict these things, margaret thatcher made the first move, but it wasjohn_ thatcher made the first move, but it wasjohn major who got thatcher made the first move, but it was john major who got the thatcher made the first move, but it wasjohn major who got the position, fast—forward david davidson meant to -et fast—forward david davidson meant to get it, _ fast—forward david davidson meant to get it. and _ fast—forward david davidson meant to get it, and david cameron managed to become _ get it, and david cameron managed to become prime minister. so you don't know— become prime minister. so you don't know who _ become prime minister. so you don't know who the leader is, but whoever it is from _ know who the leader is, but whoever it is from a _ know who the leader is, but whoever it is from a business point, we asked — it is from a business point, we asked for— it is from a business point, we asked for help consumers arc squeezed and suffering from the government listened and last week we -ot government listened and last week we got 15- _ government listened and last week we got 15- £21_ government listened and last week we got 15— £21 billion whichever way you calculated consumers. at that has not _ you calculated consumers. at that has not been held for business. these _ has not been held for business. these enterprises are really suffering. the costs are going up and they— suffering. the costs are going up and they can't pass them on to
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consumers. they would like a vat cut, more — consumers. they would like a vat cut, more help in the way the government help so fantastically during _ government help so fantastically during the pandemic in this country, £400 _ during the pandemic in this country, £400 billion worth of support, that help we _ £400 billion worth of support, that help we are saying needs to continue for businesses who are really suffering _ for businesses who are really suffering at the moment. so that's the sort _ suffering at the moment. so that's the sort of— suffering at the moment. so that's the sort of leadership we are looking — the sort of leadership we are looking for looking ahead. 30 the sort of leadership we are looking for looking ahead. so are ou looking for looking ahead. so are you saying _ looking for looking ahead. so are you saying band _ looking for looking ahead. so are you saying band that _ looking for looking ahead. so are you saying band that that - looking for looking ahead. so are. you saying band that that business leaders have the ear off of conservative mps, for example, that they would be looking for the status quo? they would be looking for the status uuo? :, they would be looking for the status i uo? :, , , , , they would be looking for the status luo? :, , , ,, :, e' they would be looking for the status uuo? :, , , ,, :, ~' :, quo? no, business will work with and we have been — quo? no, business will work with and we have been very _ quo? no, business will work with and we have been very good _ quo? no, business will work with and we have been very good about - quo? no, business will work with and we have been very good about this. i we have been very good about this. we will— we have been very good about this. we will work with whichever government of the day, but we will speak— government of the day, but we will speak truth. we work very closely with every — speak truth. we work very closely with every cabinet minister, every department whether it's the treasury of the _ department whether it's the treasury of the department of business or the home _ of the department of business or the home office. we work with them, and we will— home office. we work with them, and we will work— home office. we work with them, and we will work with the prime minister of the _ we will work with the prime minister of the day, — we will work with the prime minister of the day, whoever that is. definitely a fools errand to try to predict what might happen in politics, even a 24 hours' time,
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ron, this is a story, of course, that has ran and ran every since those first photographs emerged. is it something that has crossed the pond that people in the states are thinking about?— pond that people in the states are thinkin: about? ' :: :: , ~ :, thinking about? 10096. we look at the oliticians in thinking about? 10096. we look at the politicians in california, _ thinking about? 10096. we look at the politicians in california, new- thinking about? 10096. we look at the politicians in california, new york, - politicians in california, new york, newjersey— politicians in california, new york, new jersey who _ politicians in california, new york, newjersey who applied _ politicians in california, new york, newjersey who applied to - politicians in california, new york, newjersey who applied to many i politicians in california, new york, | newjersey who applied to many of their constituents— newjersey who applied to many of their constituents a very _ their constituents a very significant _ their constituents a very significant lockdown- their constituents a very i significant lockdown during their constituents a very - significant lockdown during covid, and yet _ significant lockdown during covid, and yet they— significant lockdown during covid, and yet they were _ significant lockdown during covid, and yet they were photographed i and yet they were photographed having _ and yet they were photographed having elaborate _ and yet they were photographed having elaborate dinners- and yet they were photographed having elaborate dinners and - and yet they were photographed| having elaborate dinners and out and yet they were photographed - having elaborate dinners and out not wearing _ having elaborate dinners and out not wearing masks~ _ having elaborate dinners and out not wearing masks~ i_ having elaborate dinners and out not wearing masks. ithink— having elaborate dinners and out not wearing masks. i think the _ having elaborate dinners and out not wearing masks. i think the story- wearing masks. i think the story really— wearing masks. i think the story really does _ wearing masks. i think the story really does resonate _ wearing masks. i think the story really does resonate over- wearing masks. i think the story really does resonate over here i wearing masks. i think the storyl really does resonate over here in the states — really does resonate over here in the states because _ really does resonate over here in the states because it— really does resonate over here in the states because it speaks- really does resonate over here in the states because it speaks to i really does resonate over here in. the states because it speaks to the nature _ the states because it speaks to the nature of— the states because it speaks to the nature of im — the states because it speaks to the nature of i'm going _ the states because it speaks to the nature of i'm going to _ the states because it speaks to the nature of i'm going to do _ the states because it speaks to the nature of i'm going to do one - the states because it speaks to the nature of i'm going to do one thingj nature of i'm going to do one thing for myself— nature of i'm going to do one thing for myself because _ nature of i'm going to do one thing for myself because i— nature of i'm going to do one thing for myself because i am _ nature of i'm going to do one thing for myself because i am powerfuli nature of i'm going to do one thingl for myself because i am powerful or my staff _ for myself because i am powerful or my staff is _ for myself because i am powerful or my staff is powerful, _ for myself because i am powerful or my staff is powerful, but _ for myself because i am powerful or my staff is powerful, but i'm - my staff is powerful, but i'm going to put— my staff is powerful, but i'm going to put you — my staff is powerful, but i'm going to put you under— my staff is powerful, but i'm going to put you under a _ my staff is powerful, but i'm going to put you under a different- my staff is powerful, but i'm going to put you under a different set- my staff is powerful, but i'm going to put you under a different set of| to put you under a different set of rules— to put you under a different set of rules because _ to put you under a different set of rules because you _ to put you under a different set of rules because you are _ to put you under a different set of rules because you are not. - to put you under a different set of rules because you are not. i- to put you under a different set of. rules because you are not. i believe heading _ rules because you are not. i believe heading into— rules because you are not. i believe heading into the _ rules because you are not. i believe heading into the november- rules because you are not. i believej heading into the november election and there _ heading into the november election and there are — heading into the november election and there are so _ heading into the november election and there are so many— heading into the november election and there are so many people - heading into the november election and there are so many people who. heading into the november election i and there are so many people who are so displeased — and there are so many people who are so displeased by— and there are so many people who are so displeased by the _ and there are so many people who are so displeased by the conduct - and there are so many people who are so displeased by the conduct of - so displeased by the conduct of their— so displeased by the conduct of their elected _ so displeased by the conduct of their elected officials _ so displeased by the conduct of their elected officials that - so displeased by the conduct of their elected officials that the i their elected officials that the constituents _ their elected officials that the constituents are _ their elected officials that the constituents are going - their elected officials that the constituents are going to - their elected officials that the | constituents are going to vote their elected officials that the - constituents are going to vote many of them _ constituents are going to vote many of them out, — constituents are going to vote many ofthem out, i— constituents are going to vote many of them out, i predict _ constituents are going to vote many of them out, i predict a _ constituents are going to vote many of them out, i predict a significant i of them out, i predict a significant landscape —
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of them out, i predict a significant landscape change _ of them out, i predict a significant landscape change in— of them out, i predict a significant landscape change in america - of them out, i predict a significant landscape change in america of. of them out, i predict a significant i landscape change in america of who is elected _ landscape change in america of who is elected to — landscape change in america of who is elected to lead _ landscape change in america of who is elected to lead us _ landscape change in america of who is elected to lead us within - landscape change in america of who is elected to lead us within bash - is elected to lead us within bash moving — is elected to lead us within bash moving forward _ is elected to lead us within bash moving forward after— is elected to lead us within bashl moving forward after november. draught — moving forward after november. draught and _ moving forward after november. draught and to _ moving forward after november. draught and to hear— moving forward after november. draught and to hear that - moving forward after november. draught and to hear that they. moving forward after november. | draught and to hear that they are looking for candidates of change. i hear that from elections all around the world. back to you, captain, there was a questionnaire for the labour leader and also the deputy labour leader and also the deputy labour leader and also the deputy labour leader angela brainard over a so—called beer gate, photographs that emerged there. they were, of course, really hitting down on the prime minister over party gate. do you think this weakens their position? do you think there will be much attention given to that questionnaire being issued? i questionnaire being issued? 1 certainly think it opens at up questionnaire being issued? t certainly think it opens at up to some of the borisjohnson support areas who will use it, no doubt, to point out to me you know, they are all in it together. and i think it actually has box to the main events because even though you could argue
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one incident is not quite the same extent as the other repeated breaches that have been reported on and sort of extensively detailed in sue gray's report, he has to resign if he is fine. so if the police come back and give him a fine, that's it. here starmer is going to have to go. meanwhile, borisjohnson has refused repeatedly to go. he's only received one fine, but there are other events that we know of that has been confirmed and that took place in his place of work and in his home. there is also? about some events that may have been left out of the reports. but regardless of that, boris johnson is showing no sign of going voluntarily where as here starmer has said he well. t voluntarily where as here starmer has said he well.— voluntarily where as here starmer has said he well. i probably should sa to our has said he well. i probably should say to our viewers _ has said he well. i probably should say to our viewers in _ has said he well. i probably should say to our viewers in case they - say to our viewers in case they didn't catch this previously that the convention has been if the prime
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minister has broken the ministerial code, the convention would be to then resign, but let's see what happens. thank you so much for talking us through the big story here today in the uk. now, let me turn to one of the biggest bands in the world and today the seven south korean mega stars took the stage at the white house press conference — and despite some of the the press it isa it is a great honour to be in the white house to discuss important issues of antiaging hate crimes, asian inclusion and diversity. now, desite asian inclusion and diversity. now, despite some _ asian inclusion and diversity. now, despite some of— asian inclusion and diversity. now, despite some of the _ asian inclusion and diversity. now, despite some of the press - trying to ask questions in korean they band were quickly ushered out to meet president biden who has committed to tackling the rising problem of anti—asian hate crime. anti—asian racism has surged since the start of the pandemic. in the past year alone, 1 in 10 asian americans have been coughed on or spit on, and nearly1 in 3 have been told to "go back to your country." we can speak now to michelle tran,
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co—president of soar over hate — —— i have to say those statistics really shocked me. when you hear them, what is going through your head? ~ �*, them, what is going through your head? �*, , :, head? well, it's absolutely what we are hearing — head? well, it's absolutely what we are hearing from _ head? well, it's absolutely what we are hearing from our _ head? well, it's absolutely what we are hearing from our community. i head? well, it's absolutely what we i are hearing from our community. and what even myself, i've personally witnessed. what we're hearing folks have just have just have an increased fear. they are having to change the way they live their everyday lives and go about their routine from just what time of day are they going outside? they are going out with multiple people and getting walking buddies. it has been, you know, the antiaging hate has been really impactful physically, not only because asian americans are being physically harmed, but emotionally as well, but the thing is, antiaging hate is not new to american history. it's been going on for a long while ever since
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filipino sellers and chinese railway workers have come to the us. said about —— despite all the things that asian americans have done to help build the us and build the society, history has shown that notjust people but also the government has framed asians in america and asian americans as this perpetual foreigner, it's a way to present daschle white supremacist tool and that's where all of this antiaging is rooted in. we havejust been trying to help our own community members. they've been banding together to do community patrols and watch for each other, but we really need the government to be stepping in and also our community allies. do you think something like bts standing at that podium at a press conference at the white house, does that help? i mean, absolutely. i think what the one who spoke first had talked about inclusion and
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belonging and diversity committee think that's part of it. i think a lot of the antiaging hate we are also seeing as micro aggressions. think one of the ways that we try to tackle that problem is just education of asian american contributions and representation and belonging. i think companies are doing a lot of work on inclusion and diversity, but to belonging is something that our community still does not feel from this country. belonging, such an interesting word to use there. i was reading, writing for the brookings institution, and she said there is not always a recognition of antiaging hate crimes are racism and she said it's because there is an instant —— and visibility of asian americans the american imagination, which i think it's kind of coming to some of those planes you are making there. why do you think that is? tt’s planes you are making there. why do you think that is?—
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you think that is? it's from another stereotype. — you think that is? it's from another stereotype. a _ you think that is? it's from another stereotype, a racist _ you think that is? it's from another stereotype, a racist stereotype - stereotype, a racist stereotype called the model minority myth in which it's a white supremacist concept of pitting communities of colour against each other and asian americans have historically been framed as a model minority that they exiled, they are generally wealthy, highly educated, but the reality is that many asian americans don't have a high school degrees or college degrees southeast asian women in america make a fraction of the white american women's dollar. so the fact is that they are all the stereotypes about asian people excelling in america, we don't see the mainstream media highlighting or looking into all the ways that asian americans are impacted by racist stereotypes and laws and policies that also sent our community behind. tt is
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and laws and policies that also sent our community behind.— our community behind. it is a sad but fascinating _ our community behind. it is a sad but fascinating discussion. - our community behind. it is a sad but fascinating discussion. thank| but fascinating discussion. thank you so much for coming on, and i think it might alert people to what has been happening and perhaps they will explore it a little bit further. thank you so much. thank ou. now on the context — it's time for the panel. writes, now we want to take a moment, ora writes, now we want to take a moment, or a few moments, on the programme to hear what our panelists are thinking about some of the subject, the topic, the idea that has grabbed them this week, and they would like to share it with you. let me begin with ron christie. ron, what are you thinking about? goad what are you thinking about? good evenina. what are you thinking about? good evening- and _ what are you thinking about? good evening. and i'm _ what are you thinking about? (13999 evening. and i'm thinking about is a mass exodus of black staff from the white house. 21 have reportedly left the white house over the course of the white house over the course of the past year. obviously working in the past year. obviously working in the white house is very stressful, it's very difficult, very high—stakes, but 21 people of colour
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leading in administration starts raising alarm bells for me. the first book that i wrote is called black in the white house, and i talked about my experiences of being an african—american working initially for vice president dick cheney and ultimately praise president george w. bush. this to me, if i am the president's chief of staff, president biden's chief of staff, president biden's chief of staff and i would say what is it about this culture, but the climate, the environment that we have here in the environment that we have here in the white house that 21 people of colour have left in little more than a year. colour have left in little more than a ear. ~ :, :, colour have left in little more than a ear. :, think it is? well, i think, candidly. _ think it is? well, i think, candidly, vice _ think it is? well, i think, candidly, vice presidentl think it is? well, | think, - candidly, vice president kamala harris�*s office has been besieged right or wrong in the press by having a toxic work atmosphere. —— or two. that staffers are working tirelessly on her behalf and that she is now reading her briefing materials and that she's not really listening to her staff. it is a very difficult environments, and the one
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thing that i did appreciate about the vice president is that they really did seek out our counsel. you don't want to work for someone who doesn't value your opinion, and i think that has to be one aspect of this exit is that we are seeing. and f kamala harris's _ this exit is that we are seeing. and f kamala harris's office would like to come back and respond to that, of course we would like to have them on as well. what are you thinking about when you hear ron talking about those aspects and maybe also before that? , ,:, , those aspects and maybe also before that? , , ::, :, that? yes, so 'ust commenting on the last that? yes, so just commenting on the last discussion, _ that? yes, so just commenting on the last discussion, what _ that? yes, so just commenting on the last discussion, what ron has - that? yes, so just commenting on the last discussion, what ron hasjust - last discussion, what ron hasjust set him _ last discussion, what ron hasjust set him in — last discussion, what ron hasjust set him in the first president of the ethnic— set him in the first president of the ethnic minority origin in british— the ethnic minority origin in british may come from one of the smallest— british may come from one of the smallest minority communities and about— smallest minority communities and about them on the 100,000 of us in the world, _ about them on the 100,000 of us in the world, and i have seen in this country— the world, and i have seen in this country in — the world, and i have seen in this country in the uk how diversity and inclusion— country in the uk how diversity and inclusion has really increased in leaps— inclusion has really increased in leaps and — inclusion has really increased in leaps and bounds. we have a long way to go. _ leaps and bounds. we have a long way to go. but— leaps and bounds. we have a long way to go, but we've come a long way. when _ to go, but we've come a long way. when i _ to go, but we've come a long way. when i was — to go, but we've come a long way. when i was in university in the i980s. — when i was in university in the 19805, there only five ethnic minority— 19805, there only five ethnic minority parliamentarians in the
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house _ minority parliamentarians in the house combined. 25 years later, we hou5e combined. 25 years later, we stood _ hou5e combined. 25 years later, we stood on _ hou5e combined. 25 years later, we stood on the — hou5e combined. 25 years later, we stood on the steps, there were 69 of us, and _ 5tood on the steps, there were 69 of us, and after— stood on the steps, there were 69 of us, and after the last election in 2019. _ us, and after the last election in 2019, there are 100 of us. now, 100 still nowhere near even half the 5till nowhere near even half the proportion of ethnic minorities in the country which is proportion of ethnic minorities in the country which i515%, so i've launched — the country which i515%, so i've launched an _ the country which i515%, so i've launched an initiative called change the race _ launched an initiative called change the race ratio, promoting ethnic minority— the race ratio, promoting ethnic minority acr055 the race ratio, promoting ethnic minority across all business. the point _ minority across all business. the point that— minority across all business. the point that they made, they use the word diversity, diversity without inclusion — word diversity, diversity without inclusion is useless. so if you have inclu5ion is useless. so if you have diversity— inclusion is useless. so if you have diversity and — inclusion is useless. so if you have diversity and inclusion, survey after— diversity and inclusion, survey after survey shows the companies that embrace, or 36% more profitable than the _ that embrace, or 36% more profitable than the bottom quartile, but companies that are more diverse and inclusive. _ companies that are more diverse and inclusive, they are more innovative. i've inclusive, they are more innovative. i've seen— inclusive, they are more innovative. i've seen that — inclusive, they are more innovative. i've seen that in my own business withjust — i've seen that in my own business withjust two people i've seen that in my own business with just two people and i've seen that in my own business withjust two people and building a team, _ withjust two people and building a team, a _ withjust two people and building a team, a mini united nations, it really— team, a mini united nations, it really works. so i'm really passionately believing in that, and ithink— passionately believing in that, and i think we — passionately believing in that, and i think we need to do a lot more. the second — i think we need to do a lot more. the second thing i am thinking about is this morning i was listening to the bbc— is this morning i was listening to the bbc radio 4.—
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is this morning i was listening to | the bbc radio 4._ and is this morning i was listening to - the bbc radio 4._ and they the bbc radio 4. very good. and they had a professor— the bbc radio 4. very good. and they had a professor from _ the bbc radio 4. very good. and they had a professor from aberdeen - had a professor from aberdeen university and he said nobody talks about _ university and he said nobody talks about soil~ — university and he said nobody talks about soil. i was at the top 26 in glasgow. — about soil. i was at the top 26 in glasgow, the un climate change conference and i spent one half of the two _ conference and i spent one half of the two weeks there, climate change is absolutely crucial, but nobody mentions — is absolutely crucial, but nobody mentions soil. and in march, the 215t mentions 5oil. and in march, the 21st of— mentions soil. and in march, the 215t of march, i helped to launch a very famous sentience spiritual leader— very famous sentience spiritual leader who's on his motorbike and a 100 day— leader who's on his motorbike and a 100 dayjourney from parliament sguare _ 100 dayjourney from parliament square in — 100 dayjourney from parliament square in westminster to india promoting the concept of saving the soil, that _ promoting the concept of saving the soil, that at least three to 6% of soil, that at least three to 6% of soil should — soil, that at least three to 6% of soil should be organic content, and it isn't _ 5oil should be organic content, and it isn't this— soil should be organic content, and it isn't. this is what we've got to try to _ it isn't. this is what we've got to try to sort — it isn't. this is what we've got to try to sort strive towards. i think this intention of saving soil is something we all need to wake up to. we have _ something we all need to wake up to. we have a _ something we all need to wake up to. we have a clip of professor pete smith from the university of aberdeen who was on the life scientific. let's take a lesson in. i think people are coming round to the idea, _ i think people are coming round to the idea, but— i think people are coming round to the idea, but we _ i think people are coming round to the idea, but we have _ i think people are coming round to the idea, but we have to— i think people are coming round to the idea, but we have to keep - the idea, but we have to keep banging — the idea, but we have to keep banging on _ the idea, but we have to keep banging on about _ the idea, but we have to keep banging on about it _ the idea, but we have to keep banging on about it because i the idea, but we have to keep i banging on about it because soils aren't— banging on about it because soils aren't as — banging on about it because soils aren't as visible _ banging on about it because soils aren't as visible as _ banging on about it because soils aren't as visible as plants - banging on about it because soils aren't as visible as plants and -
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aren't as visible as plants and animals. _ aren't as visible as plants and animals. so— aren't as visible as plants and animals. so i_ aren't as visible as plants and animals, so i think— aren't as visible as plants and animals, so i think we - aren't as visible as plants and animals, so i think we have . aren't as visible as plants and | animals, so i think we have to aren't as visible as plants and - animals, so i think we have to keep emphasising — animals, so i think we have to keep emphasising the _ animals, so i think we have to keep emphasising the role _ animals, so i think we have to keep emphasising the role that - animals, so i think we have to keepj emphasising the role that soils play in climate _ emphasising the role that soils play in climate change _ emphasising the role that soils play in climate change through - emphasising the role that soils play in climate change through security, | in climate change through security, biodiversity. — in climate change through security, biodiversity, support, _ in climate change through security, biodiversity, support, all— in climate change through security, biodiversity, support, all of- in climate change through security, biodiversity, support, all of those i biodiversity, support, all of those things— biodiversity, support, all of those things so— biodiversity, support, all of those things so we _ biodiversity, support, all of those things so we have _ biodiversity, support, all of those things so we have to _ biodiversity, support, all of those things so we have to keep - biodiversity, support, all of those things so we have to keep doing i biodiversity, support, all of those i things so we have to keep doing that because _ things so we have to keep doing that because i_ things so we have to keep doing that because i think— things so we have to keep doing that because i think it's— things so we have to keep doing that because i think it's so— things so we have to keep doing that because i think it's so easy— things so we have to keep doing that because i think it's so easy to - because i think it's so easy to forget about _ because i think it's so easy to forget about soils. _ because i think it's so easy to forget about soils.— because i think it's so easy to forget about soils. you mentioned that ou forget about soils. you mentioned that you are _ forget about soils. you mentioned that you are so — forget about soils. you mentioned that you are so astrakhan, - forget about soils. you mentioned that you are so astrakhan, and - forget about soils. you mentioned that you are so astrakhan, and i i forget about soils. you mentioned i that you are so astrakhan, and i was reading that they were often considered the first ecological religion. considered the first ecological reliaion. : , �*, considered the first ecological reliaion. , h , considered the first ecological reliaion. , �*, , religion. absolutely. it's been part of our heritage _ religion. absolutely. it's been part of our heritage all— religion. absolutely. it's been part of our heritage all the _ religion. absolutely. it's been part of our heritage all the way - religion. absolutely. it's been part of our heritage all the way to - religion. absolutely. it's been part of our heritage all the way to the i of our heritage all the way to the ecology aspect of its, and of course people _ ecology aspect of its, and of course people say, — ecology aspect of its, and of course people say, freddie mercury of clean, — people 5ay, freddie mercury of clean, of— people say, freddie mercury of clean, of course, but in the business _ clean, of course, but in the business world, you've got the family— business world, you've got the family of— business world, you've got the family of the... the largest vaccine manufacturers in the world before the pandemic you have produced 2 billion— the pandemic you have produced 2 billion doses of the oxford astrazeneca vaccine saving millions of lives _ astrazeneca vaccine saving millions of lives around the world, so a little _ of lives around the world, so a little community i'm very proud of, and at _ little community i'm very proud of, and at cambridge university, but it's professor who last year it'5 professor who last year released _ it'5 professor who last year released the economics of biodiversity same nature is our most
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precious _ biodiversity same nature is our most precious asset and sir david attenborough said this is our moral compass, _ attenborough said this is our moral compass, this report, and i think it's really— compass, this report, and i think it's really important we make up to biodiversity as much as climate change — biodiversity as much as climate chance. :, ~' :, biodiversity as much as climate chance. :, ,, :, , :, :, change. you know, it is not a discussion — change. you know, it is not a discussion i _ change. you know, it is not a discussion i have _ change. you know, it is not a discussion i have heard - change. you know, it is not al discussion i have heard before change. you know, it is not a - discussion i have heard before about the importance of soil in that concentrated way. do you think you'll be able to people? absolutely. people are listening, and they— absolutely. people are listening, and they are on theirjourney reaching _ and they are on theirjourney reaching billions of people, and i'm sure people will not pay more attention— sure people will not pay more attention to it because it is important as climate change is absolutely crucial as well. | important as climate change is absolutely crucial as well. i have to cive absolutely crucial as well. i have to give ron _ absolutely crucial as well. i have to give ron the _ absolutely crucial as well. i have to give ron the last _ absolutely crucial as well. i have to give ron the last word - absolutely crucial as well. i have to give ron the last word for - absolutely crucial as well. i have to give ron the last word for our last 20 seconds, will you be looking deeper into soil? t last 20 seconds, will you be looking deeper into soil?— deeper into soil? i am. i used to work for a _ deeper into soil? i am. i used to work for a member _ deeper into soil? i am. i used to work for a member of _ deeper into soil? i am. i used to work for a member of congressl deeper into soil? i am. i used to - work for a member of congress from ohio, and certainly soil and conservation is very, very important, something that's often overlooked, something that's always talked about his carbon emissions, but if you cannot put screens in the ground, you're not... a venus we've been talking about energy and also food and what it takes, even in that context of war.
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coming back to the war on the and, thank you both and to you for watching the context. i will see you tomorrow. hello again. well, it was a day of sunshine and showers on tuesday. quite a few of those showers were really heavy. we had some hail and thunder mixed in with some of them. that was one of the storms going through hertfordshire. after big storms like that, it's inevitable we see some localised surface—water flooding. we had a bit of that reported, for example in norfolk. look at this cloud. this is a shelf cloud spotted in the suffolk area. these are associated with really vigorous thunderstorms. we even had reports of some funnel clouds today. they're like tornados that don't quite reach the ground. the heaviest of the showers were mainly focused across eastern england today, close to this centre of low pressure, with a zone of convergence just adding a bit of extra energy to those storms. looking at the pressure charts into wednesday,
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it might not look like it, however low pressure is still in charge. there just aren't many isobars with this area of low pressure because it's quite weak. but again what it will do is it will encourage further showers. we start off with a clump of showers across wales and western england, and they'll move into east anglia and south—east england, turning heavy and thundery with some hail. northern and western areas will tend to turn drier with more sunshine through the afternoon, and so it'll start to feel a little bit warmer. towards thursday, pressure builds weakly across the uk, but we've got this little feature trying to come in off the atlantic. many of you will have a dry day with spells of sunshine on thursday, the first day many of you will have off, a prolonged spell but there will be showers pushing into the north—west, particularly for northern ireland. there could be one or two elsewhere. but for many, it is a dry picture. and it's a bit warmer, temperatures more widely into the low twenties across england
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and wales and 19, as well, in glasgow. that'll feel pleasant in the sunshine. friday, again a predominantly dry—weather picture. there will be a few showers and a few thunderstorms, but pretty isolated in nature, so many of you will dodge them. temperatures will continue to rise, given the sunny skies. 22 degrees the top temperature in cardiff, 19 or so in glasgow. into the weekend, there are going to be some changes. it was something we picked up on over last weekend, the idea that there could be an area of low pressure in france moving northwards. well, that does look like it's set to come off. it will be bringing showers, thunderstorms or more prolonged outbreaks of rain. the main uncertainty is exactly how far north the wet weather gets. for the time being, on saturday any showers and thunderstorms look likely to just affect the south of the uk. it is a mainly dry picture, the best of the sunshine for scotland, northern ireland. northern england, north wales and the midlands all looking fine and temperatures into the low 20s, again feeling warm in the sunshine. it'll start to turn more humid, though, across the south of the uk, with this zone of heavy, thundery showers or more prolonged outbreaks of rain.
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the main uncertainty is how far north it gets. it could actually end up just hanging on a little bit further southwards. but either way, on sunday it looks like the best of the dry weather and sunshine is more likely across scotland and northern ireland. it's one of those air masses in the south where, if we do see some sunshine coming through, temperatures could leap up very, very quickly. it could become really quite warm. so, over the next several days, through the platinum jubilee, a lot of dry weather. there will be some showers around, but we're looking at a more pronounced area of rain that's likely to move up from the south at some point during the course of the weekend as it starts to turn a bit more humid. that's the latest weather. bye for now.
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tonight at ten... borisjohnson still has legitimate questions to answer about lockdown gatherings according to his own ethics adviser. despite a fine for breaking lockdown rules, the prime minister says he is not breached the ministerial code, but the official ethics adviser lord geidt in his annual report said the prime minister must explain how his conduct had not breached the code, so we will have the latest on that, and news that durham police have sent questionnaires to the labour leader and the deputy leader about the lockdown meeting in that city. also tonight... the growing shortage of gps in some part of england with some regions faring much worse than others. :, :, :, , : , :,

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