hello, i'm maryam moshiri. you're watching the context on bbc news. the first flight taking asylum seekers from the uk to rwanda is set to take off tonight — with up to eight people scheduled to be removed — borisjohnson told the cabinet the policy was aimed at tackling people—traffickers. we've had to work within the scope of common humanity and compassion, that's the right thing to do, but we have to interrupt the business model of the gangs. nicola sturgeon kicks off a new campaign for scottish independence. eight years after losing the last referendum, scotland's first minister said she wanted a vote to be held in the next 18 months. my duty as a democratically elected first minister is to the people of scotland.

it is not to borisjohnson or to any tory prime minister. and in the us, 100 million people facing heat warnings — with extreme fires in arizona, and torrential flooding at yellowstone national park tonight with the context, former senior adviser to george w bush ron christie — and the former labour minister and member of parliament caroline flint. the uk government has confirmed that six asylum seekers will be leaving in just over an hour's time to rwanda —originally over 100 had been due to fly but legal appeals have steadily brought that number down. the six men will be flown the 4000 miles or 6500 km to rwanda where they will have to make their asylum claims. they may be granted permanent refugee status to stay in rwanda.

the government says it brought in the rwanda policy to tackle the trafficking gangs that are bringing ever larger numbers of people across the english channel. so far this year more than 10,000 people have made the dangerous crossing. last november 27 people died when one boat sank. and it was this point the prime minister emphasised at the cabinet meeting this morning. it's been extremely difficult to find a way of doing it that is humane, it is not reasonable to try to turn boats around at sea in the english channel. those waters are very dangerous. we have had to work within the scope of common humanity and compassion. that's the right thing to do, but we have to interrupt the business model of the gangs. but there has been plenty of opposition to the rwanda scheme. the opposition labour party has called the plans unworkable, unethical and "extortionately expensive". senior church of england leaders described the plan as an "immoral policy that shames britain" —

here's the bishop of southwark. it is about the moral principle of saying, "we are not dealing with this. "we are outsourcing it to another nation, whatever the issues are, "go away, your future lives will be sorted out there, not here." that is immoral. a poll conducted yesterday suggested the rwanda policy duncan kennedy is where the plane will take off from the. what is the latest from where you are?- latest from where you are? well, certainly all _ latest from where you are? well, certainly all kinds _ latest from where you are? well, certainly all kinds of _ latest from where you are? well, certainly all kinds of activity - latest from where you are? well, certainly all kinds of activity here | certainly all kinds of activity here as the sun goes down on salisbury plain. the aircraft is due to take out half past ten local time, so in about an hour out half past ten local time, so in aboutan hourand out half past ten local time, so in about an hour and a half. just in the last half hour or so, we have seen a coach pull up at the aircraft, just a few hundred metres behind me, also one or two other tracks possibly catering trucks. it looks as though they are prepping

this aircraft for take—off. there has been a debate going on for the past the hour about how many people are going to be on this aircraft when it does take off. all afternoon here that figure that we were being told was seven, which is going to be three iranians, two iraqi kurds, somebody from vietnam and somebody from albania. in the past hour and a half or so, one of those has been taken off the list to reduce the numbers down to sex. we understand it's one of the iraqi men, a chap in his mid—50s, and the reason for that was because there was a legal appeal to the european court of human rights, an injunction was put in place stopping that man from flying out tonight. the details of that legal battle are still not clear. it's still not clear either of anywhere of the six left will get an injunction stopping their fight tonight, so it is very much alive legal issue here in the uk tonight. so far as the aircraft is concerned, preparations do is look as though they are fully under way for the

night and i will flight down to rwanda where it's due two landed in early hours of tomorrow morning, but a six and half thousand mile journey, may be 10,000 km, all afternoon, the police were pulling up afternoon, the police were pulling up with bands escorting vans with motorcycle out writers, so it certainly seems, that we haven't had it confirmed that the asylum—seekers themselves are on this air base behind me, but quite how many make it onto that aircraft within an hour and a half's time is not fair, at the moment it looks like it will be taking up with some asylum—seekers on board. he taking up with some asylum-seekers on board- h— on board. he thank you very much indeed. before _ on board. he thank you very much indeed. before we bring david - on board. he thank you very much - indeed. before we bring david income i want to tell you about a poll conducted yesterday suggested the rwanda policy is dividing britain. 44% said they supported the idea. and 40% opposed it — with the split going along party lines. 74% of tory voters were in favour. while 71% of labour voters were against. let's get the latest from david wallace lockhart —

our political correspondent in westminster. interesting, isn't it? looking at that pole, how much split this whole thing is in terms of public opinion. very much along those party lines. that's right. i'm sure that is something that the politicians are aware _ something that the politicians are aware of— something that the politicians are aware of and conscious of when they are talking _ aware of and conscious of when they are talking about this policy. we should _ are talking about this policy. we should stress that the uk government is adamant that this is not a policy thars— is adamant that this is not a policy that's been— is adamant that this is not a policy that's been introduced because it plays well with their conservative supporters, they are stressing that they want— supporters, they are stressing that they want to break up illegal criminal_ they want to break up illegal criminal gangs that our people trafficking, helping people make that dangerous journey across the channel _ that dangerous journey across the channel and that the only way to do that or— channel and that the only way to do that or an— channel and that the only way to do that or an effective way to do that is to make — that or an effective way to do that is to make it clear to anyone thinking _ is to make it clear to anyone thinking about that journey that by removing — thinking about that journey that by removing an incentive, you may actually— removing an incentive, you may actually find yourself in the uk but flying _ actually find yourself in the uk but

flying to _ actually find yourself in the uk but flying to rwanda as a result of that — flying to rwanda as a result of that. now, of course we have heard from opposition parties in the uk that this — from opposition parties in the uk that this is — from opposition parties in the uk that this is not only an unethical policy, — that this is not only an unethical policy, but — that this is not only an unethical policy, but it is an unworkable policy, — policy, but it is an unworkable policy. an— policy, but it is an unworkable policy, an expensive one and by the looks— policy, an expensive one and by the looks of— policy, an expensive one and by the looks of things, we have a plane that may— looks of things, we have a plane that may take off tonight with a maximum of six people on board, but the uk _ maximum of six people on board, but the uk government is stressing this is a long—term policy. there will be more _ is a long—term policy. there will be more flights to come if they have their— more flights to come if they have their way, — more flights to come if they have their way, and the message they want to send _ their way, and the message they want to send to anyone thinking of trying to send to anyone thinking of trying to cross _ to send to anyone thinking of trying to cross the — to send to anyone thinking of trying to cross the english channel is that ultimately— to cross the english channel is that ultimately you may get a silent but i ultimately you may get a silent but i want _ ultimately you may get a silent but i want to— ultimately you may get a silent but i want to be in the uk. it will be in rwanda _ i want to be in the uk. it will be in rwanda. in the hope that as a result— in rwanda. in the hope that as a result the — in rwanda. in the hope that as a result the business case or people traffickers — result the business case or people traffickers and those who put people in dangerous situations will be crushed~ — in dangerous situations will be crushed. ., ~ , ., , . crushed. david, thank you very much indeed. crushed. david, thank you very much indeed- let's — crushed. david, thank you very much indeed. let's bring _ crushed. david, thank you very much indeed. let's bring in _ crushed. david, thank you very much indeed. let's bring in our— crushed. david, thank you very much indeed. let's bring in our panel - indeed. let's bring in our panel now. caroline, iwill indeed. let's bring in our panel now. caroline, i will bring you interest, what do you make of the fact that more people according to this paul support what the government is doing then those who

don't support it? it government is doing then those who don't sunport it?— don't support it? it doesn't surprise — don't support it? it doesn't surprise me. _ don't support it? it doesn't surprise me. immigration i don't support it? it doesn'tl surprise me. immigration is don't support it? it doesn't i surprise me. immigration is a concern for large numbers of the public. that has been shown in other elections in the past i would say ten years. it's not necessarily the case that everybody thinks this is the right way to do it, but people have concerns about immigration, more concerns about illegal immigration and what that might mean. i think in some ways, you know, one of the reasons why we are seeing so many people coming across the channel is because actually measures by different governments labour and tory to tackle the root to be it's the fairies and from the lorries, and also by air, have actually been successful in deterring people and deterring people traffickers. so the channel, the waterways have become the route of choice these days, and without the dangers that are involved with that. look, idon't the dangers that are involved with that. look, i don't think the solution is about exporting it, but

actually went there from the left or the right, trying to come up with some sound ideas to tackle both the refugee crisis that people face around the world and how we can be more open and generous to that and work collectively with others to actually bring people into the country as we have done in ukraine, syria and other places. a fundamentally, there is a truth about this that there are people traffickers behind these boats coming across our waters, and for everyone who can pay the money to get into those boats and seek a new life, there also people who are being brought into this country to being brought into this country to be coerced into things like modern—day slavery, and that is a of what is happening, but it isn't easy. forthose what is happening, but it isn't easy. for those who argue against this policy, and i can understand all the reasons why they do that, they also have to come up with some alternatives, because this isn't the right way to do it, it's dangerous for the people involved, it's paying

criminals, but there is a bigger picture here about how we manage individually as a country but collectively with others they need to find a safe haven for those who are facing persecution. haifa to find a safe haven for those who are facing persecution.— to find a safe haven for those who are facing persecution. how is this beinr are facing persecution. how is this being played _ are facing persecution. how is this being played out _ are facing persecution. how is this being played out in _ are facing persecution. how is this being played out in the _ are facing persecution. how is this being played out in the us - are facing persecution. how is thisj being played out in the us media? some people might say this is almost the equivalent of the wall in the united states in terms of the problem that many people say the uk is facing. problem that many people say the uk is facinr. ,., ., ., i. is facing. good evening to you. it is facing. good evening to you. it is so interesting _ is facing. good evening to you. it is so interesting to _ is facing. good evening to you. it is so interesting to me _ is facing. good evening to you. it is so interesting to me listening l is facing. good evening to you. it. is so interesting to me listening to carolina's — is so interesting to me listening to caroline's comments of the parallels between _ caroline's comments of the parallels between what is going on in the uk and what's — between what is going on in the uk and what's going on here in the united — and what's going on here in the united states. we have a waterway and it's _ united states. we have a waterway and it's called the rio grande river, — and it's called the rio grande river, southwestern part of the united — river, southwestern part of the united states, and we have several hundreds— united states, and we have several hundreds if— united states, and we have several hundreds if not thousands of people who cross _ hundreds if not thousands of people who cross that waterway every day. some _ who cross that waterway every day. some people drown. there are guides called _ some people drown. there are guides called coyotes who charge an exorbitant amount of money to bring these _ exorbitant amount of money to bring these folks _

exorbitant amount of money to bring these folks from central latin america — these folks from central latin america and points beyond the world and as caroline also pointed out, simply— and as caroline also pointed out, simply try— and as caroline also pointed out, simply by being brought here for unsafe _ simply by being brought here for unsafe -- — simply by being brought here for unsafe —— unsavoury purposes. the main _ unsafe —— unsavoury purposes. the main thing — unsafe —— unsavoury purposes. the main thing i— unsafe —— unsavoury purposes. the main thing i would emphasise about what's _ main thing i would emphasise about what's going on here in the united states— what's going on here in the united states is— what's going on here in the united states is this, we have a crisis. we have _ states is this, we have a crisis. we have had _ states is this, we have a crisis. we have had overi million people across— have had overi million people across our— have had overi million people across our shores come across our lrorders— across our shores come across our borders since — across our shores come across our borders since president biden became president— borders since president biden became president of the united states, and the question here in the united states— the question here in the united states as — the question here in the united states as well as the uk is how do we stop— states as well as the uk is how do we stop this flow of influx of people — we stop this flow of influx of people and at the same time provide an incentive — people and at the same time provide an incentive for people to apply legally— an incentive for people to apply legally to immigrate to the united states _ legally to immigrate to the united states. it's a very vexing problem that we _ states. it's a very vexing problem that we deal with and something that we have _ that we deal with and something that we have not had a solution with in the united — we have not had a solution with in the united states congress for decades. , ., decades. the interesting part of it is the perceived _ decades. the interesting part of it is the perceived attacks _ decades. the interesting part of it is the perceived attacks on - decades. the interesting part of it is the perceived attacks on the - is the perceived attacks on the judiciary and on lawyers who have been accused by some within the conservative party of trying to

unpick what is going on here. do you think that that is fair? council has come out today and rebuffed those attacks, hasn't it? i come out today and rebuffed those attacks, hasn't it?— attacks, hasn't it? i don't think it's helpful- — attacks, hasn't it? i don't think it's helpful. layers _ attacks, hasn't it? i don't think it's helpful. layers from - attacks, hasn't it? i don't think. it's helpful. layers from different points of view will make their case, and i think what is interesting today, some would've argued we wouldn't have even seen today because the courts would've thrown out the government's efforts to remove some people, albeit a few months ago it was 100 people that were meant to be on the site, it is now down to six. it is interesting. people well, lawyers will make their case on these issues, but excites interesting today that the courts in relation to these individuals six of whom are going to be put on the plane tonight. so sometimes the courts work for those certain points of view, sometimes they don't. carolyn, thank you. the first minister of scotland, nicola sturgeon, has launched a new campaign to leave the uk. borisjohnson said now was not

the time to be talking about another independence referendum, but ms sturgeon said she would forge a way forward regardless of whether the uk government gave its approval. my duty as a democratically elected first minister is to the people of scotland, it is not to borisjohnson or it to any tory prime minister. this is a uk government that has no respect for democracy. and as we saw again yesterday, it has no regard for the rule of law either. that means if we are to uphold democracy here in scotland, we must forage a way forward if necessary without a section 30 order. the act nicola sturgeon refering to — "a section 30 order" is the technical name that refers to the scotland act that allows the scottish parliament to pass laws in areas that are normally reserved to the government in westminster.

a section 30 order was granted by the uk government ahead of the last independence referendum in 2014 — when the then prime minister and first minister of scotland signed the "edinburgh agreement". downing street says now isn't the time for another referendum. but starting the campaign, the first minister published the first in a series of papers detailing outlining the case for scotland's independence. let's bring in sirjohn curtice — professor of politics at the university of strathclyde good to talk to you. let me ask you first of all, is this a good idea to push for another referendum now? well, there are two answers to that, the first— well, there are two answers to that, the first is— well, there are two answers to that, the first is that _ well, there are two answers to that, the first is that the _ well, there are two answers to that, the first is that the scottish - the first is that the scottish government— the first is that the scottish government made - the first is that the scottish government made its- the first is that the scottishj government made its initial the first is that the scottish - government made its initial request to hold _ government made its initial request to hold this— government made its initial request to hold this referendum _ government made its initial request to hold this referendum five - government made its initial request to hold this referendum five years . to hold this referendum five years a-o to hold this referendum five years ago back— to hold this referendum five years ago back in— to hold this referendum five years ago back in march— to hold this referendum five years ago back in march 2017. _ to hold this referendum five years ago back in march 2017. so, - to hold this referendum five years ago back in march 2017. so, from| ago back in march 2017. so, from that perspective, it's _ ago back in march 2017. so, from that perspective, it's difficult - ago back in march 2017. so, from that perspective, it's difficult to l that perspective, it's difficult to argue _ that perspective, it's difficult to argue that _ that perspective, it's difficult to argue that it's— that perspective, it's difficult to argue that it's being _ that perspective, it's difficult to. argue that it's being intemperate with its— argue that it's being intemperate with its speed _ argue that it's being intemperate with its speed. the _ argue that it's being intemperate with its speed. the truth- argue that it's being intemperate with its speed. the truth is- argue that it's being intemperate with its speed. the truth is that i with its speed. the truth is that this attempt _ with its speed. the truth is that this attempt to _ with its speed. the truth is that this attempt to try— with its speed. the truth is that this attempt to try and - with its speed. the truth is that this attempt to try and have - with its speed. the truth is that - this attempt to try and have another referendum is— this attempt to try and have another referendum is one _ this attempt to try and have another referendum is one of— this attempt to try and have another referendum is one of the _ this attempt to try and have another.

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be allowing scotland to remainl inside the single markets, ones be allowing scotland to remain - inside the single markets, ones that attempt _ inside the single markets, ones that attempt was — inside the single markets, ones that attempt was rebuffed, _ inside the single markets, ones thati attempt was rebuffed, unsurprisingly i attempt was rebuffed, unsurprisingly i said. _ attempt was rebuffed, unsurprisingly isaid, well, — attempt was rebuffed, unsurprisingly i said, well, under— attempt was rebuffed, unsurprisingly i said, well, under those _ i said, well, underthose circumstances, - i said, well, underthose circumstances, given- i said, well, under thosel circumstances, given that i said, well, under those _ circumstances, given that scotland is being _ circumstances, given that scotland is being taken— circumstances, given that scotland is being taken out— circumstances, given that scotland is being taken out of— circumstances, given that scotland is being taken out of their- circumstances, given that scotland is being taken out of their case - 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that eventually this issue is what is going to come to the fore. - that eventually this issue is what is going to come to the fore. hasn't made a difference _ is going to come to the fore. hasn't made a difference to _ is going to come to the fore. hasn't made a difference to the _ is going to come to the fore. hasn't made a difference to the appetite i made a difference to the appetite and scotland for another referendum. if there were to be one, how would the voting go? the if there were to be one, how would the voting go?— if there were to be one, how would the voting go? the reason none of us know is at the —

the voting go? the reason none of us know is at the moment, _ the voting go? the reason none of us know is at the moment, the - the voting go? the reason none of us know is at the moment, the opinion i know is at the moment, the opinion polls saying — know is at the moment, the opinion polls saying yes _ know is at the moment, the opinion polls saying yes to _ know is at the moment, the opinion polls saying yes to independence i know is at the moment, the opinion. polls saying yes to independence 48, no 52. _ polls saying yes to independence 48, no 52, that _ polls saying yes to independence 48, no 52, that compares _ polls saying yes to independence 48, no 52, that compares with an - polls saying yes to independence 48,. no 52, that compares with an outcome of the _ no 52, that compares with an outcome of the s— no 52, that compares with an outcome of the s 45. _ no 52, that compares with an outcome of the s 45. no — no 52, that compares with an outcome of the s 45. no 55, _ no 52, that compares with an outcome of the s 45, no 55, back— no 52, that compares with an outcome of the s 45, no 55, back in _ no 52, that compares with an outcome of the s 45, no 55, back in 2014 - of the s 45, no 55, back in 2014 independence _ of the s 45, no 55, back in 2014 independence referendum. - of the s 45, no 55, back in 2014 i independence referendum. during of the s 45, no 55, back in 2014 - independence referendum. during the course _ independence referendum. during the course over— independence referendum. during the course over the — independence referendum. during the course over the last _ independence referendum. during the course over the last two _ independence referendum. during the course over the last two and - independence referendum. during the course over the last two and half - course over the last two and half years _ course over the last two and half years or — course over the last two and half years or so, _ course over the last two and half years or 50, support— course over the last two and half years or 50, support for- years or so, support for independence - years or so, support for independence has- years or so, support for independence has beenj years or 50, support for- independence has been pretty consistently _ independence has been pretty consistently around _ independence has been pretty consistently around the - independence has been prettyj consistently around the 50—50 independence has been pretty- consistently around the 50—50 mark. reach _ consistently around the 50—50 mark. reach an _ consistently around the 50—50 mark. reach an average _ consistently around the 50—50 mark. reach an average of _ consistently around the 50—50 mark. reach an average of around - consistently around the 50—50 mark. reach an average of around 5354% l consistently around the 50—50 mark. reach an average of around 5354% in the second _ reach an average of around 5354% in the second half— reach an average of around 5354% in the second half of— reach an average of around 5354% in the second half of 2020 _ reach an average of around 5354% in the second half of 2020 when - reach an average of around 5354% in the second half of 2020 when the - the second half of 2020 when the scottish _ the second half of 2020 when the scottish government was - the second half of 2020 when the scottish government was widely. scottish government was widely thought— scottish government was widely thought to — scottish government was widely thought to be _ scottish government was widely thought to be handling - scottish government was widely thought to be handling the - scottish government was widely- thought to be handling the pandemic better— thought to be handling the pandemic better than— thought to be handling the pandemic better than the _ thought to be handling the pandemic better than the uk _ thought to be handling the pandemic better than the uk government. - thought to be handling the pandemic better than the uk government. but| better than the uk government. but basically— better than the uk government. but basically it's — better than the uk government. but basically it's been _ better than the uk government. but basically it's been that _ better than the uk government. but basically it's been that close - better than the uk government. but basically it's been that close now - basically it's been that close now ever since — basically it's been that close now ever since 2019. _ basically it's been that close now ever since 2019. nobody- basically it's been that close now ever since 2019. nobody knows i basically it's been that close now - ever since 2019. nobody knows what the outcome — ever since 2019. nobody knows what the outcome will _ ever since 2019. nobody knows what the outcome will be. _ ever since 2019. nobody knows what the outcome will be. the _ ever since 2019. nobody knows what the outcome will be. the outcome . the outcome will be. the outcome would _ the outcome will be. the outcome would depend _ the outcome will be. the outcome would depend on _ the outcome will be. the outcome would depend on which _ the outcome will be. the outcome would depend on which of - the outcome will be. the outcome would depend on which of the - the outcome will be. the outcome would depend on which of the twoj would depend on which of the two sides— would depend on which of the two sides to _ would depend on which of the two sides to the — would depend on which of the two sides to the argument _ would depend on which of the two sides to the argument comes - would depend on which of the two sides to the argument comes up l would depend on which of the two i sides to the argument comes up with a better— sides to the argument comes up with a better argument— sides to the argument comes up with a better argument bearing _ sides to the argument comes up with a betterargument bearing in- sides to the argument comes up with a better argument bearing in mind i a betterargument bearing in mind that the _ a betterargument bearing in mind that the choice _ a betterargument bearing in mind that the choice we _ a betterargument bearing in mind that the choice we now _ a betterargument bearing in mind that the choice we now face - a betterargument bearing in mind that the choice we now face is - a betterargument bearing in mind that the choice we now face is no. that the choice we now face is no longer— that the choice we now face is no longer simply— that the choice we now face is no longer simply one _ that the choice we now face is no longer simply one of— that the choice we now face is no longer simply one of scotland - that the choice we now face is no i longer simply one of scotland inside or outside _ longer simply one of scotland inside or outside the — longer simply one of scotland inside or outside the uk. _ longer simply one of scotland inside or outside the uk. it's _ longer simply one of scotland inside or outside the uk. it's a _ longer simply one of scotland inside or outside the uk. it's a choice - or outside the uk. it's a choice between scotland _ or outside the uk. it's a choice between scotland outside - or outside the uk. it's a choice

between scotland outside the. or outside the uk. it's a choice . between scotland outside the uk or outside the uk. it's a choice - between scotland outside the uk but inside _ between scotland outside the uk but inside the european _ between scotland outside the uk but inside the european union _ between scotland outside the uk but inside the european union versus- inside the european union versus being _ inside the european union versus being inside _ inside the european union versus being inside the _ inside the european union versus being inside the european- inside the european union versus being inside the european union. that is— being inside the european union. that is a — being inside the european union. that is a different _ being inside the european union. that is a different choice. - being inside the european union. that is a different choice. it- being inside the european union. that is a different choice. it has. that is a different choice. it has much _ that is a different choice. it has much wider— that is a different choice. it has much wider ramifications. - that is a different choice. it has much wider ramifications. the i much wider ramifications. the indications _ much wider ramifications. the indications of— much wider ramifications. the indications of that _ much wider ramifications. the indications of that haven't - much wider ramifications. the l indications of that haven't really been _ indications of that haven't really been debated _ indications of that haven't really been debated in— indications of that haven't really been debated in scotland. - indications of that haven't really been debated in scotland. in. indications of that haven't really been debated in scotland. in a i been debated in scotland. in a sense, — been debated in scotland. in a sense, what— been debated in scotland. in a sense, what is— been debated in scotland. in a sense, what is finally- been debated in scotland. in a i sense, what is finally happening today— sense, what is finally happening today is— sense, what is finally happening today is at— sense, what is finally happening today is at least _ sense, what is finally happening today is at least so _ sense, what is finally happening today is at least so far - sense, what is finally happening today is at least so far as - sense, what is finally happening today is at least so far as the i sense, what is finally happening. today is at least so far as the yes side is _ today is at least so far as the yes side is concerned, _ today is at least so far as the yes side is concerned, that— today is at least so far as the yes side is concerned, that debate i today is at least so far as the yes side is concerned, that debate is| side is concerned, that debate is not going to _ side is concerned, that debate is not going to be _ side is concerned, that debate is not going to be beginning to - side is concerned, that debate is not going to be beginning to be. not going to be beginning to be engaged — not going to be beginning to be engaged in. _ not going to be beginning to be engaged in. and _ not going to be beginning to be engaged in, and the _ not going to be beginning to be engaged in, and the crucial- not going to be beginning to be. engaged in, and the crucial thing is what _ engaged in, and the crucial thing is what our— engaged in, and the crucial thing is what our unionists _ engaged in, and the crucial thing is what our unionists going _ engaged in, and the crucial thing is what our unionists going to - engaged in, and the crucial thing is what our unionists going to do - engaged in, and the crucial thing is what our unionists going to do in l what our unionists going to do in order— what our unionists going to do in order to — what our unionists going to do in order to make _ what our unionists going to do in orderto make their— what our unionists going to do in order to make their side, - what our unionists going to do in order to make their side, for- what our unionists going to do in l order to make their side, for much of the _ order to make their side, for much of the last five _ order to make their side, for much of the last five years, _ order to make their side, for much of the last five years, those - order to make their side, for much of the last five years, those on the unionist— of the last five years, those on the unionist side — of the last five years, those on the unionist side have _ of the last five years, those on the unionist side have been _ of the last five years, those on the unionist side have been reiterating the argument _ unionist side have been reiterating the argument to _ unionist side have been reiterating the argument to her— unionist side have been reiterating the argument to her today, - unionist side have been reiterating the argument to her today, which. unionist side have been reiterating. the argument to her today, which is the argument to her today, which is the timing _ the argument to her today, which is the timing is— the argument to her today, which is the timing is not _ the argument to her today, which is the timing is not right. _ the argument to her today, which is the timing is not right. i— the argument to her today, which is the timing is not right. ithink- the timing is not right. i think the truth _ the timing is not right. i think the truth is _ the timing is not right. i think the truth is that — the timing is not right. i think the truth is that so _ the timing is not right. i think the truth is that so far _ the timing is not right. i think the truth is that so far the _ the timing is not right. i think the truth is that so far the pursuit - the timing is not right. i think the truth is that so far the pursuit of. truth is that so far the pursuit of that argument— truth is that so far the pursuit of that argument is _ truth is that so far the pursuit of that argument is not _ truth is that so far the pursuit of that argument is not evidently l truth is that so far the pursuit of- that argument is not evidently done anything _ that argument is not evidently done anything very— that argument is not evidently done anything very much _ that argument is not evidently done anything very much to _ that argument is not evidently done anything very much to promote - anything very much to promote supports — anything very much to promote supports for _ anything very much to promote supports for maintaining - anything very much to promote supports for maintaining the i anything very much to promote i supports for maintaining the union within— supports for maintaining the union within scotland. _ supports for maintaining the union within scotland. unionists - supports for maintaining the union within scotland. unionists will- supports for maintaining the unionj within scotland. unionists will now address— within scotland. unionists will now address the — within scotland. unionists will now address the substantive _ within scotland. unionists will now address the substantive argumentl within scotland. unionists will now - address the substantive argument and explain _ address the substantive argument and explain to—

address the substantive argument and explain to people _ address the substantive argument and explain to people why— address the substantive argument and explain to people why scotland - explain to people why scotland within — explain to people why scotland within the _ explain to people why scotland within the uk— explain to people why scotland within the uk outside - explain to people why scotland within the uk outside the - explain to people why scotland - within the uk outside the european union _ within the uk outside the european union would — within the uk outside the european union would be _ within the uk outside the european union would be better— within the uk outside the european union would be better off - within the uk outside the europeanl union would be better off compared with the _ union would be better off compared with the alternative. _ union would be better off compared with the alternative. so _ union would be better off compared with the alternative. so far, - with the alternative. so far, hearing _ with the alternative. so far, hearing that _ with the alternative. so far, hearing that document - with the alternative. so far, hearing that document has. with the alternative. so far, - hearing that document has been relatively— hearing that document has been relatively repetitive. _ hearing that document has been relatively repetitive.— hearing that document has been relatively repetitive. thank you and sta with relatively repetitive. thank you and stay with us- _ relatively repetitive. thank you and stay with us- i _ relatively repetitive. thank you and stay with us. iwill— relatively repetitive. thank you and stay with us. i will bring _ relatively repetitive. thank you and stay with us. i will bring you - relatively repetitive. thank you and stay with us. i will bring you back i stay with us. i will bring you back in a moment, i wanted to bring caroline and at this point, because of course the labour party in scotland, the question one may ask right now is how or what will the labour party do going forward if they were to be another referendum? where or how would they move forward in terms of obviously wanting the unionist approach, but not wanting to align themselves too much with what the tory party is saying, which is a problem before and had a detrimental effect on the labour party and scotland. you detrimental effect on the labour party and scotland.— party and scotland. you are absolutely _ party and scotland. you are absolutely right. _ party and scotland. you are absolutely right. i - party and scotland. you are absolutely right. i think- party and scotland. you are absolutely right. i think the| party and scotland. you are - absolutely right. i think the labour party position is still to support the union. i think there were a few little wobbles in recent years by some quarters, but under new leadership, that is where it is today. it is a difficult one for

labour because labour has also got to fight back and achieve a better presence in the political life of scotland and representing scotland and westminster as well, i think one of the huge advantages to nicola sturgeon is the snp and nicola sturgeon is the snp and nicola sturgeon and alec salmon before her benefit from having a conservative government. because they can say, love, we are not being run by people and westminster that you want to vote for, their type of politics, already mentioned being a factor in that, and it is that that almost turbo—charge us, i think, the resentment and they wish to have an independent country. it is tougher labour on this one. i thinkjohn is right. there are clearly some particular issues that scotland which to hold the snp that record for their areas that actually run in health and education and other areas, but i think it is not enough tojust say areas, but i think it is not enough to just say it's not the right time.

we have this cost—of—living crisis, you have got to have a sound message of really important message about why being together is more important than separating the union in this way. i don't think labour has got the message for that at the moment. i don't think the tories have either. that is something they are going to have to work on. clearly, nicola sturgeon having installed on this, having i when a minority government again, she is under pressure from her party to be clear about what the direction of travel as comanche must find it quite difficult, i'd suggestjohn might have of you on this, when everyone is dealing with this cost—of—living crisis can ijust wonder how much the independence announcement lies or sits alongside the present problems that people are facing in scotland and whether that will have an impact about enthusiasm for going down the referendum route or not. there is down the referendum route or not. ther , ., ., , ., down the referendum route or not. there is no doubt that the cost crisis means _ there is no doubt that the cost crisis means that _

there is no doubt that the cost crisis means that economic - there is no doubt that the cost - crisis means that economic questions become _ crisis means that economic questions become central— crisis means that economic questions become central to— crisis means that economic questions become central to our— crisis means that economic questions become central to our politics, - crisis means that economic questions become central to our politics, but i become central to our politics, but the truth _ become central to our politics, but the truth is — become central to our politics, but the truth is economic— become central to our politics, but the truth is economic questions . become central to our politics, but . the truth is economic questions were essential— the truth is economic questions were essential to— the truth is economic questions were essential to have _ the truth is economic questions were essential to have people _ the truth is economic questions were essential to have people voted - the truth is economic questions were essential to have people voted back. essential to have people voted back in 2014 _ essential to have people voted back in 2014. difficulty, _ essential to have people voted back in 2014. difficulty, i— essential to have people voted back in 2014. difficulty, i think— essential to have people voted back in 2014. difficulty, ithinkthat- in 2014. difficulty, i think that unionists _ in 2014. difficulty, i think that unionists now— in 2014. difficulty, i think that unionists now face, _ in 2014. difficulty, i think that unionists now face, i- in 2014. difficulty, i think that unionists now face, i can - in 2014. difficulty, i think that unionists now face, i can find i in 2014. difficulty, ithinkthat. unionists now face, i can find you opinion— unionists now face, i can find you opinion polls _ unionists now face, i can find you opinion polls that _ unionists now face, i can find you opinion polls that suggest - unionists now face, i can find you opinion polls that suggest that i unionists now face, i can find you i opinion polls that suggest that more people _ opinion polls that suggest that more people in_ opinion polls that suggest that more people in scotland _ opinion polls that suggest that more people in scotland are _ opinion polls that suggest that more people in scotland are still- opinion polls that suggest that more people in scotland are still of - opinion polls that suggest that more people in scotland are still of the . people in scotland are still of the view that— people in scotland are still of the view that independence - people in scotland are still of the view that independence would i people in scotland are still of the view that independence would be people in scotland are still of the i view that independence would be an economic— view that independence would be an economic disadvantage. _ view that independence would be an economic disadvantage. sampling . economic disadvantage. sampling suggests— economic disadvantage. sampling suggests that _ economic disadvantage. sampling suggests that the _ economic disadvantage. sampling suggests that the balance - economic disadvantage. sampling suggests that the balance is - economic disadvantage. sampling suggests that the balance is not l suggests that the balance is not very strong _ suggests that the balance is not very strong in— suggests that the balance is not very strong in that _ suggests that the balance is not very strong in that direction, . suggests that the balance is not| very strong in that direction, but this other— very strong in that direction, but this other polling _ very strong in that direction, but this other polling suggests - very strong in that direction, but this other polling suggests it's. this other polling suggests it's pretty— this other polling suggests it's pretty much where it - this other polling suggests it's. pretty much where it was back in 2014 _ pretty much where it was back in 2014. however, _ pretty much where it was back in 2014. however, i— pretty much where it was back in 2014. however, i can _ pretty much where it was back in 2014. however, i can also - pretty much where it was back in 2014. however, i can also find i 2014. however, i can also find polling where _ 2014. however, i can also find polling where people's - 2014. however, i can also find polling where people's is - 2014. however, i can also find i polling where people's is about 2014. however, i can also find - polling where people's is about the economic— polling where people's is about the economic consequences— polling where people's is about the economic consequences of- polling where people's is about the economic consequences of being . economic consequences of being outside — economic consequences of being outside the — economic consequences of being outside the european _ economic consequences of being outside the european union - economic consequences of being outside the european union are. economic consequences of being - outside the european union are much more _ outside the european union are much more negative — outside the european union are much more negative and _ outside the european union are much more negative and they— outside the european union are much more negative and they are _ outside the european union are much more negative and they are of - outside the european union are much more negative and they are of their. more negative and they are of their attitudes— more negative and they are of their attitudes towards— more negative and they are of their attitudes towards the _ more negative and they are of their attitudes towards the economic - attitudes towards the economic consequences _ attitudes towards the economic consequences of— attitudes towards the economic| consequences of independence. attitudes towards the economic - consequences of independence. the fact that _ consequences of independence. the fact that this — consequences of independence. the fact that this choice _ consequences of independence. the fact that this choice this _ consequences of independence. the fact that this choice this time - consequences of independence. the fact that this choice this time is - fact that this choice this time is going _ fact that this choice this time is going to — fact that this choice this time is going to be _ fact that this choice this time is going to be framed _ fact that this choice this time is going to be framed differently, | fact that this choice this time is - going to be framed differently, yes, there _ going to be framed differently, yes, there will— going to be framed differently, yes, there will be — going to be framed differently, yes, there will be people _ going to be framed differently, yes, there will be people in _ going to be framed differently, yes, there will be people in scotland - going to be framed differently, yes, j there will be people in scotland who will have _ there will be people in scotland who will have their _ there will be people in scotland who will have their doubts _ there will be people in scotland who will have their doubts and _ will have their doubts and uncertainties _ will have their doubts and uncertainties about- will have their doubts and uncertainties about the i will have their doubts and - uncertainties about the economics will have their doubts and _ uncertainties about the economics of ihdepehdehce, — uncertainties about the economics of

independence, but— uncertainties about the economics of independence, but at _ uncertainties about the economics of independence, but at the _ uncertainties about the economics of independence, but at the same - uncertainties about the economics of independence, but at the same time| independence, but at the same time permitted _ independence, but at the same time permitted are — independence, but at the same time permitted are those _ independence, but at the same time permitted are those very— independence, but at the same time permitted are those very same - independence, but at the same time i permitted are those very same people who will— permitted are those very same people who will also _ permitted are those very same people who will also have _ permitted are those very same people who will also have doubts _ permitted are those very same people who will also have doubts and - who will also have doubts and uncertainties _ who will also have doubts and uncertainties about _ who will also have doubts and uncertainties about the - who will also have doubts and - uncertainties about the economics of being _ uncertainties about the economics of being outside — uncertainties about the economics of being outside the _ uncertainties about the economics of being outside the european- uncertainties about the economics of being outside the european union, i being outside the european union, and in _ being outside the european union, and in the — being outside the european union, and in the end. _ being outside the european union, and in the end, if— being outside the european union, and in the end, if we _ being outside the european union, and in the end, if we do— being outside the european union, and in the end, if we do have - and in the end, if we do have referendum, it— and in the end, if we do have referendum, it is— and in the end, if we do have referendum, it is which - and in the end, if we do have referendum, it is which of. and in the end, if we do have i referendum, it is which of those and in the end, if we do have - referendum, it is which of those two doubts— referendum, it is which of those two doubts and — referendum, it is which of those two doubts and uncertainties weigh - referendum, it is which of those two| doubts and uncertainties weigh more heavily on— doubts and uncertainties weigh more heavily on people _ doubts and uncertainties weigh more heavily on people that _ doubts and uncertainties weigh more heavily on people that may _ doubts and uncertainties weigh more heavily on people that may prove - doubts and uncertainties weigh more heavily on people that may prove to. heavily on people that may prove to be decisive — heavily on people that may prove to be decisive i— heavily on people that may prove to be decisive. i don't _ heavily on people that may prove to be decisive. idon't think— heavily on people that may prove to be decisive. idon't think many- heavily on people that may prove to be decisive. i don't think many of. be decisive. i don't think many of us be decisive. idon't think many of us know— be decisive. i don't think many of us know where _ be decisive. i don't think many of us know where in _ be decisive. i don't think many of us know where in the _ be decisive. i don't think many of us know where in the end - be decisive. i don't think many of us know where in the end the - be decisive. i don't think many of- us know where in the end the bounce ally so— us know where in the end the bounce ally so far— us know where in the end the bounce ally so far as— us know where in the end the bounce ally so far as majority— us know where in the end the bounce ally so far as majority is _ ally so far as majority is concerned. _ ally so far as ma'ority is concernedh ally so far as ma'ority is concerned. t, , , ., concerned. ron i will bring you in at this point. _ concerned. ron i will bring you in at this point, and _ concerned. ron i will bring you in at this point, and quite _ concerned. ron i will bring you in at this point, and quite keen - concerned. ron i will bring you in at this point, and quite keen to i at this point, and quite keen to find out what the view is on this in the united states.— find out what the view is on this in the united states. there is a lot of interest in the united _ the united states. there is a lot of interest in the united states abouti interest in the united states about what's _ interest in the united states about what's going on with the uk and what's _ what's going on with the uk and what's going on with the uk and what's going on with scotland. as it pertains— what's going on with scotland. as it pertains to — what's going on with scotland. as it pertains to brexit, brexit is something that is fascinating to many— something that is fascinating to many americans. we look at brexit and we _ many americans. we look at brexit and we look— many americans. we look at brexit and we look at the sensei there is a sense _ and we look at the sensei there is a sense that — and we look at the sensei there is a sense that the government is now responsive to the needs of the people — responsive to the needs of the people and that frankly, with the brexit— people and that frankly, with the brexit vote that folks walked away with their — brexit vote that folks walked away with their feet and said we have had

enough _ with their feet and said we have had enough of— with their feet and said we have had enough of this. a look at that in the context of the trump administration and a look at that in the context— administration and a look at that in the context of bernie sanders from vermont _ the context of bernie sanders from vermont of dissatisfaction with the way that— vermont of dissatisfaction with the way that the government officials address— way that the government officials address the needs of people. and as we have _ address the needs of people. and as we have heard in this discussion as it pertains — we have heard in this discussion as it pertains to scotland and the snp of inflation is rising, food prices are going — of inflation is rising, food prices are going up, and how can when you lookat— are going up, and how can when you look at the _ are going up, and how can when you look at the first minister, how can he be _ look at the first minister, how can he be responsive to the needs of your— he be responsive to the needs of your priority as well as being responsive to the needs of your constituencies. i think there are many— constituencies. i think there are many parallels that you can draw between — many parallels that you can draw between what's going on with the sentiment of people in scotland with a certain— sentiment of people in scotland with a certain sense of unease of the american — a certain sense of unease of the american electorate here in the united states. sir american electorate here in the united states.— united states. sirjohn, let me brinr ou united states. sirjohn, let me bring you back _ united states. sirjohn, let me bring you back and _ united states. sirjohn, let me bring you back and very - united states. sirjohn, let me| bring you back and very briefly. united states. sirjohn, let me - bring you back and very briefly. the conservative party campaign on a platform of opposition to

independence, including a cast iron guarantee in their manifesto that any request for a referendum would be rejected. realistically, without agreement from the uk government of agreement from the uk government of a legitimate referendum is unlikely, is it? ~ , ., , is it? well, it is doubtfulwhether this current _ is it? well, it is doubtfulwhether this current uk _ is it? well, it is doubtfulwhether this current uk government - is it? well, it is doubtfulwhether this current uk government will. is it? well, it is doubtful whether. this current uk government will be willing _ this current uk government will be willing to _ this current uk government will be willing to provide _ this current uk government will be willing to provide the _ this current uk government will be willing to provide the authority- this current uk government will be willing to provide the authority fori willing to provide the authority for referendum. — willing to provide the authority for referendum, that _ willing to provide the authority for referendum, that was _ willing to provide the authority for referendum, that was granted - willing to provide the authority for referendum, that was granted in i referendum, that was granted in september— referendum, that was granted in september 2014. _ referendum, that was granted in september 2014. however, - referendum, that was granted in - september 2014. however, whether or not it is— september 2014. however, whether or not it is impossible _ september 2014. however, whether or not it is impossible for— september 2014. however, whether or not it is impossible for the _ not it is impossible for the scottish— not it is impossible for the scottish parliament - not it is impossible for the scottish parliament to - not it is impossible for the| scottish parliament to hold not it is impossible for the - scottish parliament to hold some kind of— scottish parliament to hold some kind of referendum _ scottish parliament to hold some kind of referendum on _ scottish parliament to hold some kind of referendum on its - scottish parliament to hold some kind of referendum on its own. kind of referendum on its own backing — kind of referendum on its own backing without _ kind of referendum on its own backing without the _ kind of referendum on its own backing without the backing . kind of referendum on its own| backing without the backing of kind of referendum on its own- backing without the backing of the uk parliament _ backing without the backing of the uk parliament and _ backing without the backing of the uk parliament and government, i backing without the backing of the . uk parliament and government, shall we say, _ uk parliament and government, shall we say, it's— uk parliament and government, shall we say, it's one — uk parliament and government, shall we say. it's one of— uk parliament and government, shall we say, it's one of those _ uk parliament and government, shall we say, it's one of those issues - 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or six different opinions. it's not. been tested in court, it was much discussed — been tested in court, it was much discussed before _ been tested in court, it was much discussed before david _ been tested in court, it was much discussed before david cameron. been tested in court, it was much. discussed before david cameron to many— discussed before david cameron to many people's _ discussed before david cameron to many people's surprise _ discussed before david cameron to many people's surprise agree - discussed before david cameron to many people's surprise agree to i discussed before david cameron to. many people's surprise agree to hold a referendum — many people's surprise agree to hold a referendum when— many people's surprise agree to hold a referendum when he _ many people's surprise agree to hold a referendum when he was— many people's surprise agree to hold a referendum when he was the - many people's surprise agree to hold a referendum when he was the uk. a referendum when he was the uk prime _ a referendum when he was the uk prime minister— a referendum when he was the uk prime minister before _ a referendum when he was the uk prime minister before in— a referendum when he was the uk prime minister before in 2014. - 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joining us. we are _ having referendum, thank you for joining us. we are back— having referendum, thank you for joining us. we are back in - having referendum, thank you for joining us. we are back injust- having referendum, thank you for joining us. we are back in just a l joining us. we are back injust a few more minutes. goodbye for now. hello there. plenty of blue sky and sunshine today across england and wales today, here we will see the heat and humidity as we head for the rest of the week. always cooler and cloudier to the north and the west and outbreaks of rain. temperatures are likely to peak in the uk for us on friday. turning very hot and humid for some. not for all, it's cooler, cloudier, outbreaks of rain for northern ireland and scotland. this is where we've still got a weather front overnight tonight. underneath this way the cloud, temperatures will stay largely in double figures. outbreaks of a moving into the northern isles part tomorrow

morning. forthe northern isles part tomorrow morning. for the south and aggressing and in wales, some long clear spouse. temperatures will drop quite as low, but probably still back into single figures for many. let's take a look at wednesday. still got a weather front outwards the north and west, but the high—pressure hands—on training franklin and wales. it keeps it dry here and keeps that weather front away as well. a little bit more detail. the lion's share of ascension for england and wales plenty of sunshine here. plenty of cloud for us, and northern ireland again. 0utbreaks cloud for us, and northern ireland again. outbreaks of rain. seven scotland, also eastern areas of northern ireland and temperatures will rise, it will feel warmer here in the best of the sunshine. along with that sunshine, of course, comes a higher pollen count. the pollen count will arise for scotland and northern ireland in that sunshine. it does stay very high across england and wales, of course. let's

take a look at their stay, starting to feel quite humid by then. that warm humid air moving in from the south. some outbreaks of rain and that rain threatens to turn heavy as we get through the night. temperatures widely in the mid to high 20s now in the south. a warm and sticky night on thursday into friday. let's take a look at friday. 0utbreaks friday. let's take a look at friday. outbreaks of rain, again, some of that rain likely to be heavy on this weather front. that rain likely to be heavy on this weatherfront. that that rain likely to be heavy on this weather front. that will sink southwards. highest temperatures just north of london. it is short—lived, a thundering breakdown over the weekend.

hello, i'm maryam moshiri. you're watching the context on bbc news. instagram acts on research by its own parent company that teenagers blamed the social network for increased feelings of anxiety and depression. there will be new parental controls across the platform in the uk — options include setting daily time limits — and scheduled break times. 0nce close colleagues — now tom rice is battling for his political future in the republican primaries, after voting to impeach donald trump. and do you say baa—rth or baaath? the way you answer could have an impact on your career as a uk study suggests people with northern accents still face discrimination.

tonight with the context, former senior adviser to george w bush ron christie — and the former labour minister and member of parliament caroline flint. instagram owner meta is launching new parental controls across the platform in the uk. they include the option of setting daily time limits of between 15 minutes and two hours, after which a black screen appears on the app. parents can also schedule break times and see any accounts their child reports, and why they did so. another instagram feature being trialled is a "nudge" tool which prompts teens to look for different subjects, if they are repeatedly searching for the same thing. let's searching for the same thing. bring in our panel no interesting let's bring in our panel now. interesting that meta are doing

this, this really coming in response to a teenagers have been saying to the parent company about the way the social media apps impacts their mental health.— social media apps impacts their mental health. absolutely. i think more evidence _ mental health. absolutely. i think more evidence is _ mental health. absolutely. i think more evidence is mounting - mental health. absolutely. i think more evidence is mounting at - mental health. absolutely. i think. more evidence is mounting at about the effect on children and young people about self—esteem and also their access to echo chambers of discussion that could be harmful to them. i welcome these measures. it makes me wonder why instagram and others are taking so long to come to their situation because i think the evidence has been mounting for some time. when i was a member of parliament i think some ten years ago, i worked with a family whose daughter was accessing the self—harm suicide forums and tragically killed herself. and there aren't many other examples of this happening and it's a current issue but it's been an issue that's been around for a while and it is got worse.—

and it is got worse. ron, these measures _ and it is got worse. ron, these measures are _ and it is got worse. ron, these measures are being _ and it is got worse. ron, these measures are being put - and it is got worse. ron, these measures are being put in - and it is got worse. ron, these measures are being put in the| and it is got worse. ron, these i measures are being put in the uk and it is got worse. ron, these - measures are being put in the uk or already been put in the cape since march. would it not any idea about how their work in the clearly there has been pressure on the social media companies to try to do something to help teenagers. teenagers clearly at this point in their lives are very susceptible to what they see on social media? iiklo what they see on social media? no question about it. if you look at meta. _ question about it. if you look at meta. you — question about it. if you look at meta, you turn on the american cable channels— meta, you turn on the american cable channels here you are flooded several — channels here you are flooded several times in our with what they are trying _ several times in our with what they are trying to do to not only protect the mental— are trying to do to not only protect the mental health integrity of children— the mental health integrity of children but also what they are trying — children but also what they are trying to — children but also what they are trying to do to use top happen. i could _ trying to do to use top happen. i could tell— trying to do to use top happen. i could tell you as an educator teaching _ could tell you as an educator teaching at the university level here _ teaching at the university level here in— teaching at the university level here in the united states, i see it first—hand with my students. 0n here in the united states, i see it first—hand with my students. on for hours _ first—hand with my students. on for hours after— first—hand with my students. on for hours after hour after hour. it really breaks down their impact to

interact— really breaks down their impact to interact with their fellow students come _ interact with their fellow students come to interact with the instructor. and to echo caroline's point, _ instructor. and to echo caroline's point, it— instructor. and to echo caroline's point, it amazes me that it's taking our social— point, it amazes me that it's taking our social media platforms this long to recognise the importance of this problem _ to recognise the importance of this problem and why now they have finally _ problem and why now they have finally acted but should have done this years — finally acted but should have done this years ago. finally acted but should have done this years ago-— this years ago. interestingly part of this is that _ this years ago. interestingly part of this is that the _ this years ago. interestingly part of this is that the teenager - this years ago. interestingly part of this is that the teenager or . of this is that the teenager or whoever is using it needs you give their parent permission to be able to have this level of control. how is he is not going to be for parents trying to get in there? also there are children who potentially are on instagram when they're not supposed to be and the parents don't know about it. ., to be and the parents don't know about it. . , ., , about it. yeah. it is hard. it is not an easy — about it. yeah. it is hard. it is not an easy option. _ about it. yeah. it is hard. it is not an easy option. i'm - about it. yeah. it is hard. it is. not an easy option. i'm fortunate that my youngest is 34 so i missed out on some of this. i have to say, i was quite tough about admitting a mobile phone until they were beyond 16 they didn't have tvs in their

bedroom, i wasjust 16 they didn't have tvs in their bedroom, i was just a 16 they didn't have tvs in their bedroom, i wasjust a hard, 16 they didn't have tvs in their bedroom, iwasjust a hard, horrible mum, obviously. it is difficult and there is no magic wand here to deal with this. i think giving some of this ways in which parents can talk to their children and children talk to their children and children talk to their children and children talk to their parents and manage it and try to encourage those conversations, i think it's really important and helpful. i do think, we always talk about children, the vulnerability and echoes into the teen years as well with vacuum two huge part of pressure upon them. sometimes we have to be, tough love is important in these situations. sometimes down the road your kids will thank you for it. one of the thing about this thing in terms of instagram, i'm the sort of positive person, i'm a cup half full person, i'm a little bit concerned about the fact that instagram was sometime ago trying to have a platform for children under 13 and they were

stopped from doing it. i hope it's not cynicism here think that maybe are they introducing these controls is a rationale for saying, now we've got controls, children under 13 should be able to access the site. i hope i'm not being over cynical about that it such an important issue, ten years down the road we don't want to look back and say we should've done more because we haven't had enough already. definitely tough being a parent, not wrong there. thank you. let's turn now to the us politics. the next wave of us midterm primaries are being held today in nevada, maine, north dakota and south carolina, where there are a few races that are worth paying attention to. two south carolina republicans tom rice and nancy mace are attempting to hold onto their seats after breaking with president donald trump over his claims of election fraud and his role in the jan six capitol hill attack. they are up against two donald trump endorsed candidates, katie arrington and russell fry. in a traditionally red state — the races will help give more

insight into how republican voters are positioning themselves — are they with trump or against him? let's speak to our north america correspondent anthony zurker. these results will be watched as a measure of whether former president trumps influence over the republican party is continuing.— party is continuing. absolutely. nancy mays. — party is continuing. absolutely. nancy mays. her _ party is continuing. absolutely. nancy mays, her opponent - party is continuing. absolutely. nancy mays, her opponent is i nancy mays, her opponent is comparing her to liz cheney of wyoming who is in unspoken —— mace. she didn't even vote for endorsement or impeachment of donald trump. tom rice also south carolina representing the northern coastal part of south carolina was one of ten republicans who voted for impeachment. he was perhaps the most surprising one, he was a person who did not vote to certify pennsylvania and arizona, the tuesday sitejoe biden won for the peace sign onto a legal challenge of a joe biden election victory. when he turned out

and voted to impeach i think i caught a lot of people off guard. he said it was inexcusable that donald trump did not condemn the january six riot on capitol hill immediately. he said death threats, is facing a multiple challengers, one of which russell fry has been endorsed by donald trump. donald trump held a rally for him and russell fry has a vast amount of resources now because of donald trump support and it has allowed him to air some rather unusual adverts going after tom rice, listing him among a long range of fictional villains. , , , villains. 0k, everybody, remember this is a safe _ villains. 0k, everybody, remember this is a safe space, _ villains. 0k, everybody, remember this is a safe space, we _ villains. 0k, everybody, remember this is a safe space, we are - villains. 0k, everybody, remember this is a safe space, we are here i villains. 0k, everybody, remember this is a safe space, we are here to j this is a safe space, we are here to tet this is a safe space, we are here to get some _ this is a safe space, we are here to get some things are just, we've all done _ get some things are just, we've all done things were not so proud of. we haven't— done things were not so proud of. we haven't had _ done things were not so proud of. we haven't had a — done things were not so proud of. we haven't had a congressman here in a while so _ haven't had a congressman here in a while so let's— haven't had a congressman here in a while so let's go and start with tom — while so let's go and start with tom. �* ., . ., ., tom. hi, i'm tom rice. you have to sa the tom. hi, i'm tom rice. you have to say the last— tom. hi, i'm tom rice. you have to say the last name. _ tom. hi, i'm tom rice. you have to say the last name. it's _ tom. hi, i'm tom rice. you have to say the last name. it's ok _ tom. hi, i'm tom rice. you have to say the last name. it's ok i'm - tom. hi, i'm tom rice. you have to say the last name. it's ok i'm a - say the last name. it's ok i'm a politician, — say the last name. it's ok i'm a

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texas going to have a lot of influence there. also it will be a real harm to mr everyone trying to get the votes of republican primary voters. �* . get the votes of republican primary voters. �* , ., ., ., voters. let's not forget that there are other races _ voters. let's not forget that there are other races across _ voters. let's not forget that there are other races across the - voters. let's not forget that there j are other races across the country including a special election in texas which may offer in early tests of republican momentum. tell us more. . . of republican momentum. tell us more. , , of republican momentum. tell us more. ,, , . of republican momentum. tell us more. ,, , more. this is the 31st district of texas. it south _ more. this is the 31st district of texas. it south of— more. this is the 31st district of texas. it south of texas, - more. this is the 31st district of texas. it south of texas, the i more. this is the 31st district of. texas. it south of texas, the rio grande valley which has a high hispanic population. a democratic representative decided to quit and take a job as a lobbyist so they're having the special election now. myra florez who is a republican running, she is been getting a lot of resources from the republican party, almost half $1 million supporting her campaign. the democrat hasn't been getting as much. i think the democratic party threw in about $100,000 just

recently. the reason why is republicans are looking at this as a chance to make inroads with hispanic votes in texas. also hang a loss on the democrats now before the november midterm elections to show they have momentum. that district is going to go away at the end of the year so it's not a permanent thing because the redistricting. there'll because the redistricting. there'll be a democratic incumbent running in dc come november but the republicans are looking at this is something to hang their hat on. they have a very good chance of building on that inroads they make in the republican hispanic vote in south texas. also nehring nancy pelosi is working majority even more for the last remaining picture of this congressional term. remaining picture of this conrressionalterm. . ., , , congressionalterm. anthony, stay with us. it's interesting what we are seeing, what we could potentially see. how much influence you think former president donald trump is can have over these primaries?—

over these primaries? that's the funny thing _ over these primaries? that's the funny thing about _ over these primaries? that's the funny thing about this, - funny thing about this, to use entities — funny thing about this, to use entities earlier, what republicans are going — entities earlier, what republicans are going to hang their hat on. republicans are going to hang their hat on— republicans are going to hang their hat on the — republicans are going to hang their hat on the former president, 45th president— hat on the former president, 45th president donald trump and say i want _ president donald trump and say i want his— president donald trump and say i want his endorsement, i want to support— want his endorsement, i want to support of— want his endorsement, i want to support of the republicans are going to say— support of the republicans are going to say it's _ support of the republicans are going to say it's time to move beyond the past and _ to say it's time to move beyond the past and look vote in the future. i look— past and look vote in the future. i look at _ past and look vote in the future. i look at those two races in south carolina — look at those two races in south carolina with great interest. plus 26 for _ carolina with great interest. plus 26 for one — carolina with great interest. plus 26 for one and of course you have a candidate _ 26 for one and of course you have a candidate who is running in the south carolina first congressional district _ south carolina first congressional district by— south carolina first congressional district by the former government that should be a reliably safe district — that should be a reliably safe district but yet getting a strong challenge from donald trump. donald trump _ challenge from donald trump. donald trump is _ challenge from donald trump. donald trump is in _ challenge from donald trump. donald trump is in my humble opinion on a vendetta _ trump is in my humble opinion on a vendetta for— trump is in my humble opinion on a vendetta for those who voted for impeachment, for those who didn't support— impeachment, for those who didn't support him 100%. for those who didn't— support him 100%. for those who didn't want— support him 100%. for those who didn't want to stop the steel. where were going — didn't want to stop the steel. where were going to hang our hats today in south _ were going to hang our hats today in south carolina and maine and nevada

and primaries moving forward, it's are you _ and primaries moving forward, it's are you with— and primaries moving forward, it's are you with trump or with you the republican— are you with trump or with you the republican establishment? what do ou see republican establishment? what do you see with — republican establishment? what do you see with the _ republican establishment? what do you see with the influence - republican establishment? what do you see with the influence that - you see with the influence that former president trump has with politics was? it must be something you look at intake while that is very different to how things work here. . �* very different to how things work here. . . ,., very different to how things work here. , ~ ,., , here. yes. all powerful figures in olitical here. yes. all powerful figures in political parties _ here. yes. all powerful figures in political parties like _ here. yes. all powerful figures in political parties like to _ here. yes. all powerful figures in political parties like to influence . political parties like to influence who the candidates are. adverts like that which is never happened in the uk. when you have this sort of, in this case republican red on red attacking each other in this way, it's just not something that would be publicly done in that way in the uk. having said that, before the 2019 general election the labour party was very divided over leadership ofjeremy corbyn. as the leadership ofjeremy corbyn. as the leader of the party he wanted to shape the outcomes of who would end “p shape the outcomes of who would end up being mps put up he wanted more mps to the left where he was. as a

result, in september or october, even though we knew a general election could be on the cards by the end of the year he decided to basically put every sitting labour mp for a re—selection process and changed the rules to make it easier to deselect them. he was focused on not necessarily winning the election try to focus on more labour cabinets who are in the image of who he felt the labour party should be. it's not the labour party should be. it's not the same but people like to influence these things. thank goodness, no offence ron, we haven't got that demonstration here in the uk. ., �* ., ., ' ., uk. you're not offended, are you wron: ? uk. you're not offended, are you wrong? not at— uk. you're not offended, are you wrong? not at all. _ uk. you're not offended, are you wrong? not at all. all _ uk. you're not offended, are you wrong? not at all. all good. - uk. you're not offended, are you| wrong? not at all. all good. good uk. you're not offended, are you - wrong? not at all. all good. good to see ou, wrong? not at all. all good. good to see you, anthony. _ we all know climate changes leading to weather extremes and right now the us is experiencing both end of the us is experiencing both end of the spectrum. nearly 100 million people are facing key warnings and

advisories across america due to an early heat wave. with extreme he comes shame fire. this fire burning near flagstaff arizona is out of control and burning across an area of more than 5000 acres. while heat and fires are blazing record flooding and rock slides have forced yellowstone national park to shut for the first time in 34 years. this footage is from just outside the park in montana. a large home you can see being swept away down the yellowstone river. a number of homes have been destroyed and there are widespread power outages in the area. no immediate reports of injuries. i've been speaking to a climate scientist of ucla's institute of stability for the bios and that these sorts of weather events are becoming the new normal. they are six certain amount of extreme weather you would expect to experience in a typical summer was

up experience in a typical summer was up to a certain extent, that is what we are seeing but only up to a point. when we see the occurrence of simultaneous and prolonged record—breaking heat waves, simultaneously occurring extreme wildfires and record—breaking flooding, i think we do have to start to connect the dots between these in the context of climate change. and while not all extreme weather events are linked to climate change increasingly many of them indeed are. shore change increasingly many of them indeed are-— indeed are. are you worried that riven indeed are. are you worried that given that _ indeed are. are you worried that given that this _ indeed are. are you worried that given that this is _ indeed are. are you worried that given that this is potentially - indeed are. are you worried that given that this is potentially in i given that this is potentially in some way linked to climate change, things could get worse? that certainly what _ things could get worse? that certainly what the _ things could get worse? that certainly what the sign - things could get worse? trisgit certainly what the sign suggests, which is that we will continue to see much more of the above, unfortunately as the global climate continues to warm, in terms of longer and more severe heat waves. i know much of europe is currently experiencing one of those as well. more intense downpours that can lead

to enhanced risk of flash flooding in some places as well as increased severity of wildfires. in many other regions that were already prone to globally. there are definitely fingerprints of why the change that we can expect to continue to see more of as the climate continues to warm. ., ., ., warm. you said earlier that there are elements _ warm. you said earlier that there are elements here _ warm. you said earlier that there are elements here of— warm. you said earlier that there are elements here of things - warm. you said earlier that there are elements here of things that| warm. you said earlier that there i are elements here of things that are typicalfor the summer are elements here of things that are typical for the summer season. what are those elements that normally one would expect to see at the samir? generally speaking, you would in the warm season expect to see some level of heat waves globally and some level of heat the summer is the time of thunderstorms and windstorms are most common in many places put that you would expect to see a certain amount of that in any given year. but it's the magnitude and the frequency of what we are seeing in places that really stands out. the

fact that by definition record warm temperatures or a record making flood event is something that doesn't happen calmly, in fact as defined it's unprecedented in the historical context. when we start to see many of these historically unprecedented heat or flood see many of these historically unprecedented heat orflood or wildfire events, that's really when the broader conversation turns to how the background climate conditions have changed into their direction that favour the sort of events to occur in about more frequently or with greater intensity. now it's time for the panel. means that the panel had to what they would like to talk about. it's bring our panelists in now. that works so well where is christian when you need them, hey? you joke might produce earlier on that you

wanted to talk about the state of us politics today. what is it about us politics today. what is it about us politics that's getting you fired up? i’ll politics that's getting you fired u n ? �* , , ., , ., ., up? i'll put it this way, i gave a seech up? i'll put it this way, i gave a speech earlier _ up? i'll put it this way, i gave a speech earlier today _ up? i'll put it this way, i gave a speech earlier today about - up? i'll put it this way, i gave a speech earlier today about the | speech earlier today about the state of our union from our politics. is this the new normal? is the new normal having assassination threats against us at prima courtjustice? is the new normal the united states congress having a seemingly inability to work together across party lines to pass sensible legislation? is the new normal the minute you're elected for president you start to run for reelection? on our side of the pond, i ponder this question and think, is this a new era of politics that we've engaged and entered into or is this just cyclical and will come out of it? i think time will tell.— cyclical and will come out of it? i think time will tell. caroline, what do ou think time will tell. caroline, what do you think _ think time will tell. caroline, what do you think when _ think time will tell. caroline, what do you think when you _ think time will tell. caroline, what do you think when you look- think time will tell. caroline, what| do you think when you look over to the united states and their situation there? 50

the united states and their situation there?— the united states and their situation there? . . situation there? so much in recent ears and situation there? so much in recent years and what _ situation there? so much in recent years and what we've _ situation there? so much in recent years and what we've seen - situation there? so much in recent years and what we've seen in - situation there? so much in recent i years and what we've seen in america has come _ years and what we've seen in america has come into the uk in terms of huge _ has come into the uk in terms of huge polarization, in terms of politics — huge polarization, in terms of politics. people not able to find some _ politics. people not able to find some common ground in which to tackle _ some common ground in which to tackle the — some common ground in which to tackle the big issues of the day. ante _ tackle the big issues of the day. ante backed up to that is for all those _ ante backed up to that is for all those that fervently support a particular point of view, huge numbers— particular point of view, huge numbers of the public to switch off politics. _ numbers of the public to switch off politics, they have no hope, they have _ politics, they have no hope, they have no— politics, they have no hope, they have no sense of purpose for what democracy — have no sense of purpose for what democracy is all about and what it can do— democracy is all about and what it can do and — democracy is all about and what it can do and what it can achieve. i think— can do and what it can achieve. i think that — can do and what it can achieve. i think that is _ can do and what it can achieve. i think that is the saddest thing at all of— think that is the saddest thing at all of this. — think that is the saddest thing at all of this, it's the voices we don't — all of this, it's the voices we don't hear— all of this, it's the voices we don't hear from who have just given up. don't hear from who have just given up i_ don't hear from who have just given up ithink— don't hear from who have just given up. i think that's a fact in american _ up. i think that's a fact in american politicsjust up. i think that's a fact in american politics just as up. i think that's a fact in american politicsjust as it is here in the _ american politicsjust as it is here in the uk — american politics 'ust as it is here in the uk. �* . american politics 'ust as it is here in the uk. �*, ., ~ ., ., in the uk. let's talk about what you want to talk— in the uk. let's talk about what you want to talk about, _ in the uk. let's talk about what you want to talk about, caroline. - in the uk. let's talk about what you want to talk about, caroline. you i want to talk about, caroline. you want to talk about, caroline. you want to talk about, caroline. you want to talk about accents. this is a study that basically suggest that people with northern accents in the uk i deemed less intelligent than

southerners. uk i deemed less intelligent than southerners-— uk i deemed less intelligent than southerners. . , southerners. yeah. basically, accent discrimination _ southerners. yeah. basically, accent discrimination is _ southerners. yeah. basically, accent discrimination is alive _ southerners. yeah. basically, accent discrimination is alive and _ southerners. yeah. basically, accent discrimination is alive and kicking i discrimination is alive and kicking in england — discrimination is alive and kicking in england. i think there's always been _ in england. i think there's always been over— in england. i think there's always been over the generations different views— been over the generations different views towards different regional accents — views towards different regional accents but this study is basically saying _ accents but this study is basically saying that southerners believe that northerners with their accents are not as— northerners with their accents are not as intelligent, not as ambitious, not as aspirational as those _ ambitious, not as aspirational as those living in the south. ijust think— those living in the south. ijust think it's — those living in the south. ijust think it's interesting because we know— think it's interesting because we know there are similar discrimination with a foreign accent _ discrimination with a foreign accent. but this is accents within the united — accent. but this is accents within the united kingdom, whether it's from _ the united kingdom, whether it's from liverpool or york shire or from the northeast. a more serious element — the northeast. a more serious element of this is that some of the studies _ element of this is that some of the studies are — element of this is that some of the studies are actually showing it's really— studies are actually showing it's really actively discriminating against _ really actively discriminating against people with these accents. by against people with these accents. by employers and by others and some are even— by employers and by others and some are even calling for within our protected _ are even calling for within our protected characteristics were in our quality of legislation that

actually— our quality of legislation that actually accents should be part of that as _ actually accents should be part of that as well, where it's demonstrated that people are getting chances _ demonstrated that people are getting chances in life because of their accent — chances in life because of their accent i— chances in life because of their accent. i think, chances in life because of their accent. ithink, was chances in life because of their accent. i think, was born in london but i _ accent. i think, was born in london but i come — accent. i think, was born in london but i come from a working—class family— but i come from a working—class family so i— but i come from a working—class family so i don't have what would be called pronunciation. and i was an mp, called pronunciation. and i was an mp. when— called pronunciation. and i was an mp. when i— called pronunciation. and i was an mp, when i appeared on television what if— mp, when i appeared on television what if i _ mp, when i appeared on television what if i drop my tea or did something like this which is part of my growing up language, i would get letters— my growing up language, i would get letters and _ my growing up language, i would get letters and e—mails and then social media _ letters and e—mails and then social media came island and twitter, people — media came island and twitter, people telling me you should speak proper~ _ people telling me you should speak proper. you don't speak the right sort of— proper. you don't speak the right sort of english, you not intelligent because _ sort of english, you not intelligent because of this. i've experienced this based — because of this. i've experienced this based on class attitude to this myself— this based on class attitude to this myself as— this based on class attitude to this myself as a professional.— this based on class attitude to this myself as a professional. when you hear that, what _ myself as a professional. when you hear that, what do _ myself as a professional. when you hear that, what do you _ myself as a professional. when you hear that, what do you think? - myself as a professional. when you i hear that, what do you think? what's it like in the us, i know you have

east coast, west coast, california accent, boston accents, does that make a difference to how you're perceived by people?— make a difference to how you're perceived by people? 100%. what if i'm perceived by people? 100%. what if i'm fascinating _ perceived by people? 100%. what if i'm fascinating listening _ perceived by people? 100%. what if i'm fascinating listening to - perceived by people? 100%. what if i'm fascinating listening to your- i'm fascinating listening to your conversation as we have the same problem here in the united states. there is a perception right or wrong that if you a southern accent, a thick accent that maybe you are not as smart or maybe you're not as educated and people think, oh, maybe you're from the north or if you have an exit like mine which is california, which is no accident that maybe you are more intelligent. and you don't see, i would say to the two of you, you don't see or hear too many people from the south on national television here in the united states. i wonder if that's discrimination based on the way that they sound as opposed to the content of their commentary.— of their commentary. thank you to both of you — of their commentary. thank you to both of you for _ of their commentary. thank you to both of you for appearing - of their commentary. thank you to both of you for appearing on - of their commentary. thank you to both of you for appearing on our i both of you for appearing on our programme with your wonderful, lovely accents. an absolute pleasure to talk to you both. thank you to

all the viewers at home. you've been watching the context. save as they are on bbc news. hello there. plenty of blue sky and sunshine, in particular across england and wales, and there's more to come in the forecast as we head through the rest of the working week. in fact, the heat and the humidity are likely to build here, but it's always going to feel cooler with some outbreaks of rain and plenty of clouds and weather fronts across northern ireland and scotland. why the heat? well, there's a heatwave across spain and south—west france at the moment. that warm air moves northwards and across the uk on friday, we could see temperatures get as high as 31—33 celsius most likely just north of the london area. so what's happening on wednesday? well, there's still a weather front across scotland and northern ireland giving some outbreaks of rain towards western coastal areas of scotland. high pressure, of course, dominates across england and wales.

this is where we'll see the lion's share of the sunshine. but there will also be some brighter skies, some sunny spells for eastern areas of scotland, southern areas of scotland too. perhaps eastern areas of northern ireland brightening up and it will feel warmer here. but highest temperatures for london and the south—east — 27 celsius. let's take a look at wednesday night. so, it is a milder—feeling night, of course, underneath the cloud. possibly a few more outbreaks of rain for scotland, then temperatures will stay in double figures. and they should be in double figures pretty much across the board in that now milder—feeling air too. if we zoom out, for thursday you can see that as these weather fronts start to approach from the west, we're sucking in all of this really warm air from the south, and thursday we'll start to see the humidity levels build and it will feel warmer again across the board for england and wales. some heavier rain moving into western areas of scotland and then, eventually, pushing eastwards as we go into friday. temperatures 26—27 celsius across the south of england, building pretty much everywhere. now, some heavy rain

for northern ireland and scotland on friday, but all eyes further south where the temperatures are really going to start to rise — 31—33 celsius. north of london, maybe hertfordshire, even cambridge as well is where we'll see the day's temperatures peak. but it is not set to last. we will still possibly see some warmer air hang on into saturday across southern areas of the uk, in particular. you can see from that yellow colour, the fresher air starting to dig through. but there's still plenty of uncertainty on the exact timing of this because the model solutions are all churning out something different. so, some heavy, thundery downpours, a thundery breakdown over the weekend. it will be turning cooler, with temperatures returning to around about the average for the time of year, but as we said, lots of uncertainty still. so this is how it could play out. our weather front moves southwards. the warm air bumps into the cooler air and we'll see some heavy, thundery downpours. and this could be mixed with another system just moving in from the near content as well, sparking off more heavy, thundery downpours so there could be

plenty of wet weather, but still some uncertainty regarding the northern extent of all of this rain. across scotland and northern ireland, it's a calmer picture. it should be mostly dry and temperatures won't have changed too much either. certainly a big drop in temperature with that fresher air. this is next week, so you can see the amber colours being swept off into the near continent. thejet stream, which is over us, will give us more mobile situations, so it is looking much more windy, it will propel some weather systems our way, so we're likely to see some showers around at times and certainly some cooler—feeling air. it's cooler, it's breezy, and it's quite showery as we head through next week, possibly with some high pressure digging in from the west later on.

tonight at ten... a last—minute legal battle to stop a flight from the uk taking asylum seekers to rwanda. the plane is standing by, reportedly with just four passengers on board. there is no departure time confirm. there is no departure time confirm. the prime minister says it is justified. we think it's sensible partnership we've set up with rwanda. yes, it may take a while to get working properly but it doesn't mean we're not going to keep going. during the day, more than 250 asylum seekers arrived in the uk after crossing the english channel in small boats. we'll have the latest on the first flight due to leave for rwanda. also tonight... the first minister of scotland, nicola sturgeon, unveils

what she calls a refreshed case for independence.