tv The Context with Christian Fraser BBC News July 28, 2022 9:00pm-10:01pm BST
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. 137 minutes — that's how long presidentjoe biden spoke with xijinping today. the message on taiwan, from the chinese leader, was pretty blunt �*those who play with fire, he said, wil get burnt.�* joe biden says us support for taiwan "has not changed". what has changed is the outlook on the us economy — a second quarter of decline — which has put the president on the defensive. now, there is no doubt we expect growth to be slower than last year but that is consistent with the transition to a stable, steady growth with low inflation.
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but a huge breakthrough on the president's agenda with news that democrat senatorjoe manchin will finally support a bill that injects billion into key climate policy. and in ukraine — the counter—offensive is on with progress to report around the city of kherson — but will the supply of weapons from the west come quickly enough to sustain the momentum? tonight with the context, the republican strategist rina shah — and chief political commentator for the i paul waugh. hello, welcome to the programme. it has been a while. four months in fact, sincejoe biden and xi xinping spoke, on the phone. today the two leaders talked for two hours 17 minutes. a long time. but let's be honest, there's plenty to talk about. the war in ukraine, china's behaviour in the south china sea, trade embargoes,
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nuclear proliferation, taiwan. and specifically the planned visit of the house speaker nancy pelosi, who is heading there next month. that has infuriated beijing. ms pelosi would be the highest ranking us politician to travel to taiwan since 1997. for which china has warned there will be dramatic consequences. translation: we have repeatedly stated our solemn position that we are firmly opposed to speaker pelosi's visit to taiwan. if the us pushes ahead and challenges china's bottom line it will inevitably face countermeasures. oversight will face all the consequences arises therefrom. president biden did not mention the phone call at his press conference this afternoon, but the white house did post an official read out of what was discussed. "on taiwan, it said, president biden underscored that the united states
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policy has not changed and that the united states strongly opposes unilateral efforts to change the status quo or undermine peace and stability across the taiwan strait." i'm joined by isabel hilton, founder of the on—profit organisation, china dialogue. it is the fifth time that they have spoken sincejoe biden became president but as i said they had not spoken forfour months. president but as i said they had not spoken for four months. what did you make of the tone of the readout that we have had from the two sides? i think it is or was interesting to see how much the readout coincide and there really is not a lot of overlap here. the readouts are essentially talking to domestic audiences on both sides. xi xinping's readout is a stern warning to united states about interference in taiwan. and president biden�*s readout substantially was a stern warning to china about ukraine,
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explaining why the united states tried to dissuade and how the united states tried to dissuade russia going through the sanctions. and essentially laying out to china that if china were to do a similar thing in taiwan, similar results would follow. so there is slightly, shall we say, threatening tone to this on both sides and you can clearly see what was on the mind of each of the leaders and there is not a lot of rinse and tear.— leaders and there is not a lot of rinse and tear. the united states sa s its rinse and tear. the united states says its policy — rinse and tear. the united states says its policy towards _ rinse and tear. the united states says its policy towards taiwan . says its policy towards taiwan has not changed. but the official decision of the united states is that they would only recognise taiwan unofficially. if you send the house speaker, third in line, to taiwan, does that to you suggest a change in policy? h0 taiwan, does that to you suggest a change in policy?— change in policy? no because seakers change in policy? no because speakers have _ change in policy? no because speakers have been - change in policy? no because speakers have been to - change in policy? no because| speakers have been to taiwan
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change in policy? no because - speakers have been to taiwan before and they went some years before when china was less prone to this kind of very vehement reaction. but i think it is hard for the chinese system to understand that pelosi, who is a very senior political figure, doesn't havejoe biden�*s approval to have an i think it is an embarrassing situation for both sides. certainly in the chinese system, no one that senior would do anything like this without a nod from the top. now i happen to think that biden is very concerned about this. he has had warnings from his own military that there are quite alarming noises coming from the chinese military. and it has all got a bit embarrassing because the timing of it because it has been postponed due to illness and lock all of those things, is coming at a very sensitive moment in chinese politics. the head of a very big party congress in which xi xinping is going to get a third term was stopped august is the time when the
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party retreat to the seaside and talks about policy, so it couldn't have been worse timed really and that makes even more sensitive than it would be otherwise. i don't think us policy has changed but i do think the us is responding to a more robust china with a more robust assertion of that policy. and president biden hasn't helped by repeatedly miss speaking. you are riaht, the repeatedly miss speaking. you are right, the rhetoric _ repeatedly miss speaking. you are right, the rhetoric has _ repeatedly miss speaking. you are right, the rhetoric has been - right, the rhetoric has been elevated. when you talk about the miss speaking, he has been asked twice now whether or not the united states would defend taiwan militarily and he has said yes. find militarily and he has said yes. and then he has _ militarily and he has said yes. and then he has had _ militarily and he has said yes. fific then he has had to walk militarily and he has said yes. fific then he has had to walk it back. militarily and he has said yes. and l then he has had to walk it back. and on the other— then he has had to walk it back. and on the other side we have had from the chinese these rather aggressive statements that they would accompany nancy pelosi's plane into tie or the might blockade the island. is there a risk as these two sides had toward elections because you have, as you say, the party congress in china and the mid—term elections in united states. is there a danger that now they're in this fix on side can walk
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it back? ~ ~ ., , it back? well, i think that is unfortunately _ it back? well, i think that is unfortunately the _ it back? well, i think that is unfortunately the situation l it back? well, | think that is - unfortunately the situation wherein because when you get robust and assertive nationalism in both sides they are very constrained in terms of what they can do. and any building of trust becomes extraordinarily difficult because it is seen as a betrayal domestically. so it has to be done very quietly, very subtly and most of those mechanisms really have fallen away. they fell away in the trump era and they haven't really been rebuilt in they haven't really been rebuilt in the biden era. so we are perilously short of risk management mechanisms between the us and china. so if anything were to go wrong, you know, if any of these shop jobs were to collide in midair that could easily escalate into a major incident. and the means of calming down are pretty thin, even in the cold war we were better equipped, certainly after the
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cuban missile crisis to do that kind of crisis management. i cuban missile crisis to do that kind of crisis management.— of crisis management. i want to combat that _ of crisis management. i want to combat that point _ of crisis management. i want to combat that point very - of crisis management. i want to combat that point very shortly. | of crisis management. i want to i combat that point very shortly. let me bring in reassure on this. —— let me bring in reassure on this. —— let me bring in rena shah on this. he was it the once nancy pelosi to go to taiwan? i was it the once nancy pelosi to go to taiwan?— to taiwan? i suspect that this is a lot to do with _ to taiwan? i suspect that this is a lot to do with legacy _ to taiwan? i suspect that this is a lot to do with legacy these - to taiwan? i suspect that this is a lot to do with legacy these days. | lot to do with legacy these days. look, this is a moment that is fundamentally very embarrassing for our nation on the world stage because how is it that we made it through four years of trump and there was this not this kind of infighting seen globally. the president and the speaker don't seem to agree on something and here we are, this something is not a small thing. nancy pelosi is not liked in china. there are images of her showing up in taiwan that could be shown as a provocation. why she is not understanding that an you know what, this is not the right time and pulling back, that remains a mystery. but again, like i said earlier, it could just be about
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legacy and her wanting to frankly just exert her own power.- just exert her own power. yeah, because of— just exert her own power. yeah, because of course _ just exert her own power. yeah, because of course she _ just exert her own power. yeah, because of course she will be i because of course she will be conscious with the mid—term is upon us that the democrats lose the house and she loses her position. paul, can we talk about sir stephen lovegrove, the uk national security adviser, who has been in the united states this week and has made some red comments. he has been talking about the risk. he says the cold war�*s to monolithic blocks of the ussr and nato, though not without alarming bumps, were able to reach a shared understanding of doctrine thatis shared understanding of doctrine that is today absent. today we do not have the same foundations with others who may threaten us in future, particularly with china. now, it has takenjoe biden for months to set up a phone call with beijing and what we here in the uk leadership contest is two people taking very hawkish positions. if that doesn't seem to fit with what sir stephen lovegrove is advocating.
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well, i suspect that is exactly why sir stephen lovegrove has said what he has _ sir stephen lovegrove has said what he has said — sir stephen lovegrove has said what he has said right now. it is a warning _ he has said right now. it is a warning notjust of he has said right now. it is a warning not just of the he has said right now. it is a warning notjust of the brits but also the — warning notjust of the brits but also the americans that we need to keep open— also the americans that we need to keep open these back door channels of communication, the point is they are back_ of communication, the point is they are back door and people don't talk about_ are back door and people don't talk about them very often but they are crucial _ about them very often but they are crucial for — about them very often but they are crucial for security for both sides, making _ crucial for security for both sides, making sure there aren't any accidental errors and accidental provocation. but what we've seen in the tory— provocation. but what we've seen in the tory leadership contest is what we're _ the tory leadership contest is what we're seeing in us, which is biden dry out _ we're seeing in us, which is biden dry out his— we're seeing in us, which is biden dry out his own arms race against trump _ dry out his own arms race against trump and — dry out his own arms race against trump and who could be tough on china _ trump and who could be tough on china when— trump and who could be tough on china when he got elected, in order to get— china when he got elected, in order to get elected. and it is the same here _ to get elected. and it is the same here we — to get elected. and it is the same here. we have rishi sunak and liz truss_ here. we have rishi sunak and liz truss trying — here. we have rishi sunak and liz truss trying to outscore each other on who _ truss trying to outscore each other on who could be more hawkish to beijing _ on who could be more hawkish to beijing. and the big problem with that is, _ beijing. and the big problem with that is, yeah, most people can understand why with a route really deliver_ understand why with a route really deliver a _ understand why with a route really deliver a newly resurgent china where — deliver a newly resurgent china where you are doing it. you want to make _ where you are doing it. you want to make sure — where you are doing it. you want to make sure you defend your infrastructure from infiltration on whether— infrastructure from infiltration on whether it — infrastructure from infiltration on whether it is nuclear power or in terms _ whether it is nuclear power or in terms of— whether it is nuclear power or in terms of your ag or 5g network. that is understandable but when it comes
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to other— is understandable but when it comes to other things, we have common interest— to other things, we have common interest on— to other things, we have common interest on climate change and global— interest on climate change and global security and global trade functioning. never mind post covid, common— functioning. never mind post covid, common interest on pandemics and how to deal— common interest on pandemics and how to deal with _ common interest on pandemics and how to deal with them. there are areas of mutual— to deal with them. there are areas of mutual interest but it is making sure that — of mutual interest but it is making sure that both sides tone down the rhetoric— sure that both sides tone down the rhetoric to— sure that both sides tone down the rhetoric to get there. it is sure that both sides tone down the rhetoric to get there.— rhetoric to get there. it is a very important _ rhetoric to get there. it is a very important reminder— rhetoric to get there. it is a very important reminder this, - rhetoric to get there. it is a very j important reminder this, isabel, that, yes, ourfocus has been rightly on ukraine and the war with russia but the most important relationship today is between united states and an increasingly nuclear proliferate china. and unless there is discussion and unless as poor suggest there are open discussions about climate and nuclear proliferation then it could lead us to somewhere we don't want to go. well, yes, and certainly on the climate, a colleague remarked the other day it is like two people wrestling over who is going to drive a car while the road is melting underneath them. there comes a point where you think the geopolitics is
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really getting on the way of the national interest on either side. and despite these tensions there are still, they trade huge volumes of goods and services every single day. and it is just a goods and services every single day. and it isjust a great goods and services every single day. and it is just a great pity that things have got so bad. but it is dangerous and, you know, we really hope that out of this particular telephone call will come something at least a little more constructive and if not constructive a little more secure.— and if not constructive a little more secure. ., ~ ., more secure. isabel, thank you for cominu more secure. isabel, thank you for coming on — more secure. isabel, thank you for coming on the _ more secure. isabel, thank you for coming on the programme - more secure. isabel, thank you for coming on the programme this - coming on the programme this evening. it is very good to talk to you and to get your perspective. thank you. the ukrainian forces have been setting the stage for some weeks now, for a broad counteroffensive in the south of the country. there have been a series of long—range missile strikes on the bridges that cross the dnipro river which has left thousands of russian soldiers around the port city of kherson in an increasingly precarious position. a british intelligence report released today
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said russia's main fighting force on the western side of the river "now looks highly vulnerable" because of the strikes on the bridge. in fact the russians are hurrying reinforcements to the south to try and secure the line. it is the the high mobility, artillery rocket systems supplied to ukraine by the united states, that are making a difference. but the re—supply is still coming too slowly. amd the himars are needed on multiple fronts. naturally, after months of bombardment, the ukrainianians are desperate for some good news and taking back kherson, one of the first cities to fall would be an enormous coup. not to mention, it would severely undermine russia's attempt to paint the occupation as a success. joining me now is former ukrainian defence minister andriy zagorodnyuk. lovely to have you back with us. from the outside it doesn't appear yet as though the ukrainians retaking territory quickly. what evidence do you have that the course of the war is starting to change?
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well, first of all we should remember that the donbas as it was talked about —— called in russia and then the western press didn't succeed. so russia has tried state that all the donbas area and they're still struggling and cannot. now we see the is getting more serious in quaison they are —— in kherson they will not have any additional resources to fight in donbas so their chances of taking donbas are diminishing even more. they clearly see that they came multiple group limit multidirectional again. it has never worked well for russia because due to the super centralised method of commanding they are never good when they're working on several directions at same time. so the fact that they are trying to do something
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in turn one in order to try and protect their positions in kherson is damaging their positions. this is im ortant is damaging their positions. this is important for _ is damaging their positions. this is important for them _ is damaging their positions. this is important for them to _ is damaging their positions. this is important for them to take - is damaging their positions. this is important for them to take back. is damaging their positions. this is | important for them to take back the adversity that fell but what would it mean strategically for those other cities along the south. i mean principally odesa of course but there are others. what would take in there are others. what would take in the western side of kherson mean? they obviously didn't succeed and i do believe it will not succeed. having kherson is a substantial basis for further expansion. having kherson is a substantial basis forfurther expansion. so having kherson is a substantial basis for further expansion. so for us, it is much more important that we don't let, not only let russia move along the west of the coast to odesa but actually creating the opposite dimeric and moving backwards. —— opposite dynamic to
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cut them off from crimea. kherson was the first city to fall but it is a regional capital so it is strategically important. also it stands on the basis of the river which connects to the black sea. it is strategically important for the rest of the country because we know the river flows through the rest of the river flows through the rest of the country and it is quite a substantial advantage for the russians. ,, , , , ., ., russians. surely it is slower going for the rush _ russians. surely it is slower going for the rush the _ russians. surely it is slower going for the rush the limit _ russians. surely it is slower going for the rush the limit ukrainians . russians. surely it is slower going j for the rush the limit ukrainians in the russians. do you think there is an insurgency, and offensive coming from within the city that will help ukrainians going forward? we know that there is — ukrainians going forward? we know that there is an _ ukrainians going forward? we know that there is an insurgency - ukrainians going forward? we know that there is an insurgency and - ukrainians going forward? we know that there is an insurgency and it i
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that there is an insurgency and it is quite well organised. just about half a year before the war, ukraine passed a law on organised insurgent movement, it is called resistance, armed resistance. and it is organised under the armed forces of ukraine, so it is part of the chain of command. we knew that this risk of command. we knew that this risk of the invasion was quite high already at that time we understood that russians would probably move in and they would probably take some territories. and in orderfor them to not be able to hold effectively those territories we organised the whole resistance movement as part of the chain of command of the armed forces. so, yeah, it is there and it prevents russia to effectively do pretty much anything in those territories right now.— pretty much anything in those territories right now. let's talk about the _ territories right now. let's talk about the first _ territories right now. let's talk about the first lady _ territories right now. let's talk about the first lady of- territories right now. let's talk| about the first lady of ukraine, territories right now. let's talk- about the first lady of ukraine, she has had a very busy week. she's been speaking to bbc world news today. she has played a key role for russia continues and today was the latest in a week of high—profile public
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appearances. translation: in peaceful time i am not used to such excessive attention but now in ukraine everyone is fighting at their own front and i am prepared to be more public in order to reach out to more people and to tell them the information, tell them the truth about ukraine. so here they couldn't be any sentiments that is work and i have to do that. paul, this is the first lady on the front of vogue magazine. she's been at the white housein magazine. she's been at the white house in recent weeks and speaking to congress. she has been photographed in a number of publications. how much of this do you think is deliberate? i mean, she is obviously reluctant to be the face of the conflict but she is playing bigger role in recent weeks. is that because the ukrainians are trying to keep the war in the public consciousness here in the west, do you think?
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consciousness here in the west, do ou think? ., ., , , you think? yeah, that is definitely the case. you think? yeah, that is definitely the case- i— you think? yeah, that is definitely the case. i mean, _ you think? yeah, that is definitely the case. i mean, she _ you think? yeah, that is definitely the case. i mean, she made i you think? yeah, that is definitely the case. i mean, she made clear| the case. i mean, she made clear that she is a private woman normally but she is effectively becoming one of the most important ambassadors for ukraine globally. the fact that, as you said, she went to the white house, geographically my address to congress. and ultimately these are words that equal weapons. that is what really counts here. not weapons in the rhetorical sense alone but actual weapons. the more she can keep the west on board and keep them interested, the more there won't be any waning of interest in actually supplying hardware. ithink any waning of interest in actually supplying hardware. i think it really matters. we talk about this phrase is soft power countries, cultural links you know but the european song contest, whether it is vogue interviews. more of human feel to see what it's like having your children separated from your leader for so long. that all translates to soft power into hard power. and that is really what ukraine is all about. it proves that the information war is just as important as the actual
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war on the ground because the war on the ground relies on those weapons. andrei, you are not exact. she played a key role for ukrainians abroad? flit played a key role for ukrainians abroad? . ., , played a key role for ukrainians abroad? _, , , , abroad? of course. our president cannot travel. _ abroad? of course. our president cannot travel. he _ abroad? of course. our president cannot travel. he stays _ abroad? of course. our president cannot travel. he stays in - abroad? of course. our president cannot travel. he stays in his i cannot travel. he stays in his office — cannot travel. he stays in his office all the time so the fact that she is— office all the time so the fact that she is travelling for him and for all ukraine, of course it is a massive _ all ukraine, of course it is a massive signal. and also shows that everybody _ massive signal. and also shows that everybody in ukraine is working hard for defence — everybody in ukraine is working hard for defence and for the victory. so even _ for defence and for the victory. so even somebody who would not expect under _ even somebody who would not expect under normal circumstances to do that because this is everybody's effort _ that because this is everybody's effort and she is symbol of that like everybody that whoever can apply _ like everybody that whoever can apply their efforts to help applies and helps. apply their efforts to help applies and hels. . .,, apply their efforts to help applies and hels. ., .,, ., apply their efforts to help applies and hels. ., ., , , , and helps. yeah, as paul suggests soft ower and helps. yeah, as paul suggests soft power turns _ and helps. yeah, as paul suggests soft power turns into _ and helps. yeah, as paul suggests soft power turns into hard - and helps. yeah, as paul suggests soft power turns into hard power. soft power turns into hard power but there have been comments from the pentagon about assessing just how effective the investment has been and in the crudest term you could call it bang for your buck. do you think the success that this time to
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have in kherson, is outsourcing translates into hard currency in washington? fist translates into hard currency in washington?— translates into hard currency in washinuton? . ., ., washington? at the moment we are in it feels so heavy _ washington? at the moment we are in it feels so heavy because _ washington? at the moment we are in it feels so heavy because we _ washington? at the moment we are in it feels so heavy because we see i it feels so heavy because we see that this conflict is beyond comprehension to many of us at this point because putin has massacred tens of thousands of civilians at this point simply because he could. now i remember in washington talking to the ambassador here when on capitol hill he addressed a joint meeting of congress and he said close the skies. and pelosi said absolutely not, we won't. so what chance do them a choice now does ukraine have when the narrative also comes from others saying ukraine can't win. look at the situation and look at people in washington and other allied countries who are not understanding of the situation between russia and ukraine. the reality is putin tried to take kyiv,
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he fell. he is now trying to take the east and after some initial success he has expanded his objectives to the south. people don't seem to see the game plan here. they talk about ceasefire for example. that only gives russia a chance to regroup and restart on their terms. where are we at with this? i see no leadership here stateside. i'm sorry to say, it is truly critical of biden now because they've failed ukraine time time again. putin cannot deal with washington like this, he has to be dealt with as a madman he is. the only way to secure american interest is to secure that ukraine expels russian invaders from islam, there is simply no other way. we russian invaders from islam, there is simply no other way.— is simply no other way. we have heard murmurings _ is simply no other way. we have heard murmurings from - is simply no other way. we have heard murmurings from the i is simply no other way. we have i heard murmurings from the southern command they want these high mars much quicker than they're getting them. is there still a delight. ——
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these himars. it them. is there still a delight. -- these himars.— them. is there still a delight. -- these himars. it is not even close to the amount — these himars. it is not even close to the amount we _ these himars. it is not even close to the amount we have _ these himars. it is not even close to the amount we have been i these himars. it is not even close i to the amount we have been asking for. there is a very clear operational plan, so there is a campaign plan. our allies know about that and they understand what we need. so, yes, it is a bit frustrating that we still don't see a firm no answer things. we are still negotiating and talking by the same time the deliveries are not that fast at all. and then we are talking about fatigue in the west and then we are talking about some expectations of counter offensives and so on but we need means to achieve that. and we have been telling this over and over and over but unfortunately some delays are still happening. but unfortunately some delays are still happening-— but unfortunately some delays are still happening. supply not meeting the rhetoric- _ still happening. supply not meeting the rhetoric. thank _ still happening. supply not meeting the rhetoric. thank you _ still happening. supply not meeting the rhetoric. thank you for - still happening. supply not meeting the rhetoric. thank you for coming l the rhetoric. thank you for coming on the programme. can we just talk, about this new report is out from
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yale university today. i don't if you read it, paul. but the suggestion is that they've been looking at russian language research, more unconventional data thanis research, more unconventional data than is widely available and the result is that the russian economy has actually been catastrophically crippled by western sanctions. we don't hear that do we because a lot of people have been saying that from his petrodollars he can ride this out as long as it once and it is suffering the pain. but perhaps that is not the case.— is not the case. well, i think it is an invaluable _ is not the case. well, i think it is an invaluable reminder - is not the case. well, i think it is an invaluable reminder of i is not the case. well, i think it is an invaluable reminder ofjust i is not the case. well, i think it is i an invaluable reminder ofjust how impressed into the sanctions are. they're not like any other sanctions in history. they go to every aspect of a capitalist economy, right down to what kind of computer chips are going to go to your machines and how you're going to replenish your factories. and what you are seeing is the slow death of the russian economy. because there is a slow death of manufacturing and the ability to put replace things. crucially, in the us hawks in the 19705 crucially, in the us hawks in the 1970s you to talk about bombing vietnam back into the stone age. what these global sanctions are
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doing is bombing russia back into a pre—technology age and i think there a massive, massive underestimated factor in what is going on. and over time i think putin and the people around him are going to realisejust how much damage it has caused. the auestion how much damage it has caused. the question is. — how much damage it has caused. the question is, which population of people can sustain it for the longest and of course the russians have been through this before. i'm not sure people in the west have ever been through an energy crisis like this one.— ever been through an energy crisis like this one. right. and you know, lookin: at like this one. right. and you know, looking at the _ like this one. right. and you know, looking at the kremlin, _ like this one. right. and you know, looking at the kremlin, they i like this one. right. and you know, j looking at the kremlin, they tossed out the _ looking at the kremlin, they tossed out the unfavourable metrics and they only — out the unfavourable metrics and they only released those that are more _ they only released those that are more favourable. i'm particularly struck— more favourable. i'm particularly struck by— more favourable. i'm particularly struck by these figures and what yale university reported in russian industrial production for june showed that it was significantly depressed across so many— significantly depressed across so many sectors. for example hear cars, reduction _ many sectors. for example hear cars, reduction was — many sectors. for example hear cars, reduction was down by 89%. and then you look— reduction was down by 89%. and then you took at— reduction was down by 89%. and then you look at fibre—optic cables which dropped _ you look at fibre—optic cables which dropped by nearly 80%. these figures are not— dropped by nearly 80%. these figures are notjust _ dropped by nearly 80%. these figures
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are notjust alarming, they're going to be _ are notjust alarming, they're going to be distressing for the russian population for a very long time. we are out population for a very long time. are out of population for a very long time. - are out of time. we can get a break. plenty more coming, we're going to talk about climate. stay with us for that. hello. largely cloudy skies today. tomorrow, a brighter and somewhat sunnier prospect. we have seen some sunshine today around the north, northwest of scotland, but further south in scotland, it's notjust been cloudy, but we've had some heavy and thundery rain in places, particularly into dumfries and galloway. and overnight, we continue to see some outbreaks of rain through parts of the central belt, southern scotland and indeed into northern england. elsewhere, where you have seen some rain today or a few showers becomes mainly dry with some clear spells around. a touch warmer overnight and particularly so in scotland. now, tomorrow, there will be more in the way of sunshine from the word go. we're kind of in between weather systems. here's the next one coming in — will be turning things wetter right at the end of the day initially in northern ireland. until then, though, we start with cloud and some outbreaks of rain in northern england, south—east scotland.
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that clears away, and then, although it brightens up, eastern scotland, northern england, especially into the pennines, we'll see a few showers breaking out, and there's a chance of the odd shower elsewhere. but overall, it's brighter, sunnier and feeling warmer compared with today. so, temperatures up to around 28 degrees in the london area, but more places getting into the low 20s. as i hinted earlier, in northern ireland, a breeze and starts to pick up and here comes some rain through the evening — heading into scotland as well, pushing across scotland overnight and into saturday morning, whereas much of england and wales will stay dry. and as for your temperatures, it's going to be a warmer night as well, so we're talking widely now mid—teens as saturday begins. now, on saturday, we have this area of low pressure well to the north of scotland, but the trailing weather front here heading in a bit further south, but it is going to weaken as it does so. so, if you're eyeing that and thinking, "some rain out and about, please," there won't be much around. quite a damp start in northern ireland and scotland — will tend to brighten up here. still the chance of showers. thicker cloud with some patchy rain,
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parts of northern and western england and wales, but patchy not amounting to very much. although clouding up in east anglia and the southeast, still some hazy sunny spells, and this is where we'll see the day's higher temperatures, but also sunny spells in eastern scotland, easily into the low 20s. that weather system never really clears through, so it's still around, maybe through a central swathe of the uk on sunday, though some uncertainty about its exact position. it could be a little bit further south, so keep an eye on the forecast. but certainly to the south of this weather system, this is where we're going to see the higher temperatures this weekend. bye— bye.
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. joe biden's climate agenda is back from the dead, after an unexpected u—turn by the us senator from west virginia, joe manchin. the bill agreed with senate democrats will inject billions into clean energy. we will hear from the chair of the house energy and commerce committee. but it's not all good news for the president as the us slides towards recession. figures out today, which could yet be revised, suggest growth in the world's biggest economy fell for a second consecutive quarter. and next stop, leeds — the candidates vying to be the next prime minister of the uk appear together at the first hustings, with the future of northern rail firmly on the agenda. and the commonwealth games are under way. we'll talk to one former
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weightlifting champion who swept muhammed ali off his feet. tonight with the context, the republican strategist rina shah and chief political commentator forthe i, paulwaugh. welcome back. joe biden has spent many a sleepless night in the white house worrying about the democratic senator from west virginia. joe manchin holds enormous power in a 50/50 senate, and for months, he has been the holdout on a large chunk ofjoe biden's agenda. but suddenly, out of nowhere, the senate leader chuck schumer announced wednesday night he'd struck a deal with manchin that will deliver on some of the biggest parts of the build back better plan, including climate and clean energy. putin has weaponised — make no mistake — putin has weaponised energy,
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and we have to fight that with better energy, more energy and much cleaner producing energy. that bill invests into that why we also invest in the new technologies of the future for the transition of future energies. i think it's well—balanced. in this bill, there's a commitment to slash us greenhouse gas emissions by a0% by 2030. they'll extend tax credits for electric vehicles. there's $60 billion for domestic, clean energy manufacturing, and there's a further $30 billion in tax credits, for wind, solar, and battery storage development. and, three months from an election, with approval ratings underwater, its welcome relief for the president. this bill is far from perfect, it's a compromise, but it's often how progress is made, by compromises. and the fact is that my message to congress is this — this is the strongest bill you can pass to lower inflation,
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cut the deficit, reduce health care costs. _ tackle the climate crisis and promote energy security — all the time while reducing the burdens facing working class and middle class families, so pass it. 0ne one of those democrats have been working hard us for this bill is congresswoman kathy castor from the house colette don't let —— select committee. this is the best kept secret. nobody knew this was coming. how do —— important do you think it will be in helping the us achieve its targets?— will be in helping the us achieve its taraets? . �* ., ., its targets? we're so hardened today with the announcement _ its targets? we're so hardened today with the announcement about i its targets? we're so hardened today with the announcement about the i with the announcement about the inflation _ with the announcement about the inflation reduction _ with the announcement about the inflation reduction act, _ with the announcement about the inflation reduction act, and i with the announcement about the inflation reduction act, and it- inflation reduction act, and it really— inflation reduction act, and it really looked _ inflation reduction act, and it really looked like _ inflation reduction act, and it really looked like it- inflation reduction act, and it really looked like it was i inflation reduction act, and it really looked like it was on . inflation reduction act, and it. really looked like it was on life support — really looked like it was on life support when _ really looked like it was on life support when me _ really looked like it was on life support when me spoke. i really looked like it was on life support when me spoke. —— i really looked like it was on life i support when me spoke. —— when we spoke _
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support when me spoke. —— when we spoke we're — support when me spoke. —— when we spoke. we're also— support when me spoke. —— when we spoke. we're also grappling - support when me spoke. —— when we spoke. we're also grappling with i spoke. we're also grappling with higher— spoke. we're also grappling with higher costs _ spoke. we're also grappling with higher costs and _ spoke. we're also grappling with higher costs and consumers i spoke. we're also grappling withi higher costs and consumers here spoke. we're also grappling with . higher costs and consumers here in the uk _ higher costs and consumers here in the uk and — higher costs and consumers here in the uk and the _ higher costs and consumers here in the uk and the eu, _ higher costs and consumers here in the uk and the eu, across - higher costs and consumers here in the uk and the eu, across the - higher costs and consumers here in. the uk and the eu, across the globe, realty— the uk and the eu, across the globe, realty heed _ the uk and the eu, across the globe, really need some _ the uk and the eu, across the globe, really need some relief. _ the uk and the eu, across the globe, really need some relief. it _ the uk and the eu, across the globe, really need some relief. it will- really need some relief. it will help— really need some relief. it will help american— really need some relief. it will help american meet _ really need some relief. it will help american meet the - really need some relief. it will. help american meet the climate really need some relief. it will- help american meet the climate 's goats— help american meet the climate 's goals established _ help american meet the climate 's goals established by— help american meet the climate 's goals established byjoe _ help american meet the climate 's goals established byjoe biden. i help american meet the climate 's| goals established byjoe biden. we think the _ goals established byjoe biden. we think the inflation _ goals established byjoe biden. we think the inflation reduction - goals established byjoe biden. we think the inflation reduction act - think the inflation reduction act will get — think the inflation reduction act will get us _ think the inflation reduction act will get us about _ think the inflation reduction act will get us about 40% - think the inflation reduction act will get us about 40% of - think the inflation reduction act will get us about 40% of the i think the inflation reduction acti will get us about 40% of the way there. _ will get us about 40% of the way there. and — will get us about 40% of the way there. and we— will get us about 40% of the way there, and we know— will get us about 40% of the way there, and we know that - will get us about 40% of the way| there, and we know that families will get us about 40% of the way - there, and we know that families and smelt business — there, and we know that families and small business owners _ there, and we know that families and small business owners need - there, and we know that families and small business owners need relief. small business owners need relief from _ small business owners need relief from high — small business owners need relief from high energy— small business owners need relief from high energy costs, _ small business owners need relief from high energy costs, and - small business owners need relief from high energy costs, and this. from high energy costs, and this will help— from high energy costs, and this will help them _ from high energy costs, and this will help them put _ from high energy costs, and this will help them put money- from high energy costs, and this will help them put money back i from high energy costs, and thisi will help them put money back in their— will help them put money back in their pocket _ will help them put money back in their pocket at _ will help them put money back in their pocket at a _ will help them put money back in their pocket at a time _ will help them put money back in their pocket at a time that - will help them put money back in their pocket at a time that they l their pocket at a time that they realty— their pocket at a time that they realty heed _ their pocket at a time that they really need it.— their pocket at a time that they really need it. crucially important in the respeet- — really need it. crucially important in the respect. it _ really need it. crucially important in the respect. it says _ really need it. crucially important in the respect. it says 4096 - really need it. crucially important in the respect. it says 4096 by - really need it. crucially important. in the respect. it says 4096 by 2030, in the respect. it says 40% by 2030, but the commitment the us made in glasgow was to cut emissions on the 2005 levels by 52% by 2030. how will they make up the shortfall? the 2005 levels by 5296 by 2030. how will they make up the shortfall?— they make up the shortfall? the good news is that we _ they make up the shortfall? the good news is that we have _ they make up the shortfall? the good news is that we have local _ news is that we have local communities, _ news is that we have local communities, states, - news is that we have local- communities, states, business news is that we have local— communities, states, business owners that are _ communities, states, business owners that are helping — communities, states, business owners that are helping us _ communities, states, business owners that are helping us get _ communities, states, business owners that are helping us get the _ communities, states, business owners that are helping us get the rest - communities, states, business owners
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that are helping us get the rest of - that are helping us get the rest of the way— that are helping us get the rest of the way there. _ that are helping us get the rest of the way there, plus _ that are helping us get the rest of the way there, plus we _ that are helping us get the rest of the way there, plus we know- that are helping us get the rest of| the way there, plus we know when that are helping us get the rest of - the way there, plus we know when we make investments— the way there, plus we know when we make investments in— the way there, plus we know when we make investments in clean— the way there, plus we know when we make investments in clean energy- the way there, plus we know when we| make investments in clean energy and technologies. — make investments in clean energy and technologies, often— make investments in clean energy and technologies, often times, _ make investments in clean energy and technologies, often times, those - technologies, often times, those advancements— technologies, often times, those advancements accelerate - technologies, often times, those advancements accelerate the - advancements accelerate the technologies _ advancements accelerate the technologies improve, - advancements accelerate the technologies improve, so - advancements accelerate the . technologies improve, so we're counting on _ technologies improve, so we're counting on that _ technologies improve, so we're counting on that as _ technologies improve, so we're counting on that as well. - technologies improve, so we're - counting on that as well. consumers realty— counting on that as well. consumers realty need — counting on that as well. consumers really need heto _ counting on that as well. consumers really need help. let _ counting on that as well. consumers really need help. let me _ counting on that as well. consumers really need help. let me give you i really need help. let me give you one example _ really need help. let me give you one example of— really need help. let me give you one example ofjust— really need help. let me give you one example ofjust a _ really need help. let me give you one example ofjust a couple - really need help. let me give you . one example ofjust a couple months a-o, one example ofjust a couple months ago. the _ one example ofjust a couple months ago. the state — one example ofjust a couple months ago. the state of— one example ofjust a couple months ago, the state of california, - one example ofjust a couple months ago, the state of california, one - one example ofjust a couple months ago, the state of california, one of. ago, the state of california, one of the largest— ago, the state of california, one of the largest economies _ ago, the state of california, one of the largest economies in _ ago, the state of california, one of the largest economies in the - ago, the state of california, one ofl the largest economies in the world, ran almost— the largest economies in the world, ran almost on — the largest economies in the world, ran almost on 90% _ the largest economies in the world, ran almost on 90% renewable - the largest economies in the world, | ran almost on 90% renewable power for the _ ran almost on 90% renewable power for the first time _ ran almost on 90% renewable power for the first time in _ ran almost on 90% renewable power for the first time in history. - ran almost on 90% renewable power for the first time in history. for- ran almost on 90% renewable power for the first time in history. for a - for the first time in history. for a moment— for the first time in history. for a moment in— for the first time in history. for a moment in time. _ for the first time in history. for a moment in time. so, _ for the first time in history. for a moment in time. so, we - for the first time in history. for a moment in time. so, we can- for the first time in history. for a moment in time. so, we can do. for the first time in history. for a - moment in time. so, we can do this, butwe— moment in time. so, we can do this, but we realty — moment in time. so, we can do this, but we really need _ moment in time. so, we can do this, but we really need these _ but we really need these investments, _ but we really need these investments, and - but we really need these investments, and that'si but we really need these - investments, and that's why the inflation — investments, and that's why the inflation reduction _ investments, and that's why the inflation reduction act, - investments, and that's why the inflation reduction act, if - investments, and that's why the inflation reduction act, if we - investments, and that's why the inflation reduction act, if we cani inflation reduction act, if we can -et inflation reduction act, if we can get it— inflation reduction act, if we can get it over— inflation reduction act, if we can get it over the _ inflation reduction act, if we can get it over the finish line, - inflation reduction act, if we can get it over the finish line, it - inflation reduction act, if we can get it over the finish line, it will| get it over the finish line, it will come at — get it over the finish line, it will come at a — get it over the finish line, it will come at a critical _ get it over the finish line, it will come at a critical moment. - get it over the finish line, it will come at a critical moment. iatrial get it over the finish line, it will come at a critical moment. we are in election season, which _ come at a critical moment. we are in election season, which means joe . election season, which meansjoe biden get nothing from republicans. here is mitch mcconnell speaking a little earlier.— little earlier. outlined a giant ackaue little earlier. outlined a giant package of— little earlier. outlined a giant package of huge _ little earlier. outlined a giant package of huge new - little earlier. outlined a giant package of huge new job - little earlier. outlined a giant l package of huge new job killing little earlier. outlined a giant - package of huge new job killing tax package of huge newjob killing tax acts. new deal craziness that will kill american energy and
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prescription drugs socialism that will leave us with fewer life—saving medicines. a reckless taxing and spending spree that will delight the far left and hammer working families even harder. far left and hammer working families even harder-— far left and hammer working families even harder. nothing to help working families. is it _ even harder. nothing to help working families. is it enough _ even harder. nothing to help working families. is it enough for _ families. is it enough for republicans just families. is it enough for republicansjust to say families. is it enough for republicans just to say no to climate policies these days? is an climate policies these days? is an it out raises _ climate policies these days? is an it out raises that _ climate policies these days? is an it out raises that the _ climate policies these days? is an it out raises that the gop -- - climate policies these days? is an it out raises that the gop —— isn't it out raises that the gop —— isn't it outrageous _ it out raises that the gop —— isn't it outrageous that _ it out raises that the gop —— isn't it outrageous that the _ it out raises that the gop —— isn't it outrageous that the gop - it out raises that the gop —— isn't it outrageous that the gop in - it outrageous that the gop in america. _ it outrageous that the gop in america, they're _ it outrageous that the gop in america, they're so - it outrageous that the gop in i america, they're so embedded it outrageous that the gop in - america, they're so embedded with the fossil— america, they're so embedded with the fossil fuel— america, they're so embedded with the fossil fuel industry, _ america, they're so embedded with the fossil fuel industry, they- the fossil fuel industry, they can't see what's— the fossil fuel industry, they can't see what's happening _ the fossil fuel industry, they can't see what's happening with - the fossil fuel industry, they can't see what's happening with the - the fossil fuel industry, they can't . see what's happening with the higher costs that _ see what's happening with the higher costs that our — see what's happening with the higher costs that our neighbours _ see what's happening with the higher costs that our neighbours are - costs that our neighbours are grappling _ costs that our neighbours are grappling with. _ costs that our neighbours are grappling with, and _ costs that our neighbours are grappling with, and they- costs that our neighbours are . grappling with, and they cannot costs that our neighbours are - grappling with, and they cannot see the fact— grappling with, and they cannot see the fact that — grappling with, and they cannot see the fact that communities _ grappling with, and they cannot see the fact that communities across i grappling with, and they cannot see i the fact that communities across the globe _ the fact that communities across the globe are _ the fact that communities across the globe are living _ the fact that communities across the globe are living through _ the fact that communities across the globe are living through water- globe are living through water shortages, _ globe are living through water shortages, wildfires, - globe are living through water shortages, wildfires, extreme temperatures, _ shortages, wildfires, extreme temperatures, the _ shortages, wildfires, extreme temperatures, the death- shortages, wildfires, extreme temperatures, the death that| shortages, wildfires, extreme - temperatures, the death that comes with that _ temperatures, the death that comes with that to — temperatures, the death that comes with that. to the _ temperatures, the death that comes with that. to the contrary, _ temperatures, the death that comes with that. to the contrary, it's - with that. to the contrary, it's about— with that. to the contrary, it's about time _ with that. to the contrary, it's about time the _ with that. to the contrary, it's i about time the corporations pay
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their fair— about time the corporations pay theirfair share, _ about time the corporations pay theirfair share, and _ about time the corporations pay their fair share, and that's- about time the corporations pay their fair share, and that's whyi their fair share, and that's why this minimum— their fair share, and that's why this minimum tax— their fair share, and that's why this minimum tax so— their fair share, and that's why this minimum tax so that - their fair share, and that's why - this minimum tax so that everyone has a skin— this minimum tax so that everyone has a skin in— this minimum tax so that everyone has a skin in the _ this minimum tax so that everyone has a skin in the game, _ this minimum tax so that everyone has a skin in the game, all- this minimum tax so that everyone has a skin in the game, all the - has a skin in the game, all the corporations— has a skin in the game, all the corporations can _ has a skin in the game, all the corporations can not _ has a skin in the game, all the corporations can not use - has a skin in the game, all the corporations can not use the l has a skin in the game, all the i corporations can not use the tax code _ corporations can not use the tax code to — corporations can not use the tax code to hide _ corporations can not use the tax code to hide and _ corporations can not use the tax code to hide and get tax - corporations can not use the tax code to hide and get tax breaks| corporations can not use the tax - code to hide and get tax breaks that every— code to hide and get tax breaks that every day americans _ code to hide and get tax breaks that every day americans don't _ code to hide and get tax breaks that every day americans don't have - code to hide and get tax breaks that every day americans don't have at l every day americans don't have at their— every day americans don't have at their fingertips _ every day americans don't have at their fingertips. this— every day americans don't have at their fingertips. this is— every day americans don't have at their fingertips. this is going - every day americans don't have at their fingertips. this is going to. their fingertips. this is going to be a _ their fingertips. this is going to be a far—reaching _ their fingertips. this is going to be a far—reaching package, - their fingertips. this is going to be a far—reaching package, andj their fingertips. this is going to- be a far—reaching package, and the gop is _ be a far—reaching package, and the gop is not — be a far—reaching package, and the gop is not a — be a far—reaching package, and the gop is not a participant— be a far—reaching package, and the gop is not a participant to - be a far—reaching package, and the gop is not a participant to their- gop is not a participant to their detriment~ _ gop is not a participant to their detriment. the _ gop is not a participant to their detriment. the history- gop is not a participant to their detriment. the history books. gop is not a participant to their. detriment. the history books will look at _ detriment. the history books will look at them _ detriment. the history books will look at them and _ detriment. the history books will look at them and say _ detriment. the history books will look at them and say they- detriment. the history books will look at them and say they have l detriment. the history books will| look at them and say they have an opportunity— look at them and say they have an opportunity to— look at them and say they have an opportunity to act, _ look at them and say they have an opportunity to act, they _ look at them and say they have an opportunity to act, they had - look at them and say they have an opportunity to act, they had an . opportunity to act, they had an opportunity— opportunity to act, they had an opportunity to— opportunity to act, they had an opportunity to lower— opportunity to act, they had an opportunity to lower inflation l opportunity to act, they had an . opportunity to lower inflation and reduce _ opportunity to lower inflation and reduce costs— opportunity to lower inflation and reduce costs for— opportunity to lower inflation and reduce costs for families - opportunity to lower inflation and reduce costs for families and - opportunity to lower inflation and | reduce costs for families and they were _ reduce costs for families and they were absent _ reduce costs for families and they were absent. but _ reduce costs for families and they were absent-— reduce costs for families and they were absent. �* ~ . a ., , were absent. but mitch mcconnell is riaht in the were absent. but mitch mcconnell is right in the respect _ were absent. but mitch mcconnell is right in the respect that _ were absent. but mitch mcconnell is right in the respect that people - right in the respect that people matter, people are most concerned about the kitchen table economics, what's going on in their own household. when you look at monthly bills, they've gone up $496 average. grocery bills are up $78 a month. they don't care about the semantics of whether or not the us is in a recession. what they want to know is
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when the us is coming out of the tunnel. ., �* . . , tunnel. you're right and what is driving the _ tunnel. you're right and what is driving the inflation? _ tunnel. you're right and what is driving the inflation? largely i driving the inflation? largely fossil— driving the inflation? largely fossil fuels. _ driving the inflation? largely fossilfuels. putin's- driving the inflation? largely fossil fuels. putin's invasioni driving the inflation? largely. fossil fuels. putin's invasion of ukraine, — fossil fuels. putin's invasion of ukraine, that's _ fossil fuels. putin's invasion of ukraine, that's why— fossil fuels. putin's invasion of ukraine, that's why it's - fossil fuels. putin's invasion of ukraine, that's why it's so - ukraine, that's why it's so important now— ukraine, that's why it's so important now to - ukraine, that's why it's so important now to pass - ukraine, that's why it's so| important now to pass this ukraine, that's why it's so - important now to pass this act, put money— important now to pass this act, put money back into _ important now to pass this act, put money back into people's pockets. | money back into people's pockets. that'll _ money back into people's pockets. that'll happen _ money back into people's pockets. that'll happen right _ money back into people's pockets. that'll happen right away - money back into people's pockets. that'll happen right away whetheri that'll happen right away whether it's on— that'll happen right away whether it's on prescription _ that'll happen right away whether it's on prescription drugs, - that'll happen right away whether it's on prescription drugs, but- that'll happen right away whether. it's on prescription drugs, but when it's on prescription drugs, but when it comes _ it's on prescription drugs, but when it comes to— it's on prescription drugs, but when it comes to breaking _ it's on prescription drugs, but when it comes to breaking our addiction i it comes to breaking our addiction to fossil— it comes to breaking our addiction to fossil fuels, _ it comes to breaking our addiction to fossil fuels, the _ it comes to breaking our addiction to fossil fuels, the ability - it comes to breaking our addiction to fossil fuels, the ability to - it comes to breaking our addiction to fossil fuels, the ability to put . to fossil fuels, the ability to put solar panels _ to fossil fuels, the ability to put solar panels on _ to fossil fuels, the ability to put solar panels on the _ to fossil fuels, the ability to put solar panels on the roof, - to fossil fuels, the ability to put solar panels on the roof, to - to fossil fuels, the ability to put i solar panels on the roof, to make those _ solar panels on the roof, to make those clean — solar panels on the roof, to make those clean electric— solar panels on the roof, to make those clean electric vehicles - solar panels on the roof, to make| those clean electric vehicles more affordable — those clean electric vehicles more affordable so _ those clean electric vehicles more affordable so you _ those clean electric vehicles more affordable so you don't _ those clean electric vehicles more affordable so you don't even - those clean electric vehicles more affordable so you don't even havej those clean electric vehicles more . affordable so you don't even have to stop for— affordable so you don't even have to stop for gas — affordable so you don't even have to stop for gas - — affordable so you don't even have to stop for gas — these _ affordable so you don't even have to stop for gas — these are _ affordable so you don't even have to stop for gas — these are real- affordable so you don't even have to stop for gas — these are real world l stop for gas — these are real world solutions— stop for gas — these are real world solutions that _ stop for gas — these are real world solutions that will help _ stop for gas — these are real world solutions that will help put - stop for gas — these are real world solutions that will help put money| solutions that will help put money back in— solutions that will help put money back in people's— solutions that will help put money back in people's pockets - solutions that will help put money back in people's pockets right - solutions that will help put money. back in people's pockets right away. kathv _ back in people's pockets right away. kathv castor — back in people's pockets right away. kathy castor talking _ back in people's pockets right away. kathy castor talking to _ back in people's pockets right away. kathy castor talking to us earlier. i rina, they said they're not focusing enough on oil and gas. the one thing
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thatis enough on oil and gas. the one thing that is in this bill is permitting charges. joe manchin said he wouldn't sign the bill unless they were in there. permits are given out much more easily for new sources. do you think there will be more investment as a result as much is in the cleaner energy �*s? investment as a result as much is in the cleaner energy 's?_ the cleaner energy 's? well, it's hard to say _ the cleaner energy 's? well, it's hard to say at this _ the cleaner energy 's? well, it's hard to say at this point, - the cleaner energy 's? well, it's hard to say at this point, but. hard to say at this point, but that was the sticking point forjoe manchin. i was born and raised in west virginia, and i've knownjoe manchin for something of 20 years. he is not wavering. at this point, he has to give that kind of tip of the hat to his home state, so that's one piece that had to be there for him to come back to the table. i don't think he deserves all the credit here. i think leaders in the senate democratic conference deserve
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a lot of credit for bringing him back to the table. let's not lose sight of the big picture. 370 billion in transformative investment was the largest ever investment that the american government has made in our climate future. i think the political side, this package is ready to go, but the democratic coalition has to do something for the people of west virginia, which overwhelmingly vote republican and voted for trump twice. what the democrats have to do to get more americans to vote republican to understand why they made this investment, to see that this creates jobs and places like west virginia. this is what the gop is not doing, and it opens up a whole new realm of possibilities for the democrats. this makes them look very good. let's not forget there is a whole swathe of younger kids he,
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millennial voters like me who could like this feel that mansion has struck —— jens e. like this feel that mansion has struck ——jens e. —— gen—z. like this feel that mansion has struck -- jens e. -- gen-z. there are lots of— struck -- jens e. -- gen-z. there are lots of republican _ struck -- jens e. -- gen-z. there are lots of republican voters - struck -- jens e. -- gen-z. there are lots of republican voters in i are lots of republican voters in texas and florida, where that is a very big factor. paul, it is earth overshoot day, where humanity uses all the biological resources that the earth generates. we are using it up the earth generates. we are using it up earlier and earlier and earlier. backin up earlier and earlier and earlier. back in the 19705, i think you can see the outline goes up to december. now we are overshooting this by july. so, there's only so long if you're a republican where you can deny the facts, which 5ay you're a republican where you can deny the facts, which say that we are burning too much and using too
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much and need to get a grip.- much and need to get a grip. yeah, another pretty _ much and need to get a grip. yeah, another pretty stark _ much and need to get a grip. yeah, another pretty stark illustration i much and need to get a grip. yeah, another pretty stark illustration of i another pretty stark illustration of the emergency we are facing. i think what's _ the emergency we are facing. i think what's fascinating is this bill is called the inflation reduction act. in called the inflation reduction act. in the _ called the inflation reduction act. in the uk, — called the inflation reduction act. in the uk, there's no way you can -et in the uk, there's no way you can get away— in the uk, there's no way you can get away with that in parliament. boris _ get away with that in parliament. borisjohnson had a great repeal bill and _ borisjohnson had a great repeal bill and it— borisjohnson had a great repeal bill and it was forced to change to the eu _ bill and it was forced to change to the eu withdrawal bill. it's a really— the eu withdrawal bill. it's a really important point because if you can — really important point because if you can persuade americans, let alone _ you can persuade americans, let alone everyone else, that you're investing — alone everyone else, that you're investing in greenjobs but at the same _ investing in greenjobs but at the same time, cutting their bills, that it seems— same time, cutting their bills, that it seems a — same time, cutting their bills, that it seems a no—brainer because if that is— it seems a no—brainer because if that is helping net zero and the us has a _ that is helping net zero and the us has a enormous global leadership if they can _ has a enormous global leadership if they can make it work, if they can show— they can make it work, if they can show that— they can make it work, if they can show that you can get bills down, then the — show that you can get bills down, then the rest of the western world and maybe china is going to copy. and then — and maybe china is going to copy. and then everybody wins, so i think we all— and then everybody wins, so i think we all think— and then everybody wins, so i think we all think —— are all quite
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relieved _ we all think —— are all quite relieved thatjoe we all think —— are all quite relieved that joe manchin we all think —— are all quite relieved thatjoe manchin has resumed _ relieved thatjoe manchin has resumed himself and there can be progress — let's talk about the leadership contest. the two candidates vying to become the next british prime minister have faced off in leeds tonight at the first hustings of the campaign. ri5hi sunak and liz tru55 have been facing questions from tory party members who will be getting a postal ballot in the coming weeks. here's a flavour. we face a huge global economic crisis. we have the worst war but taken place on european shores happening in ukraine. now is not the time for business as usual. now is not the time for the status quote. we need to be bold and we need to do things differently. to be bold and we need to do things differentl . ., �* . to be bold and we need to do things differentl . ., �* , ., differently. you've seen from me, i haven't taken _ differently. you've seen from me, i haven't taken the _ differently. you've seen from me, i haven't taken the easy _ differently. you've seen from me, i haven't taken the easy road. i differently. you've seen from me, i haven't taken the easy road. there | haven't taken the easy road. there plentv _ haven't taken the easy road. there plenty of _ haven't taken the easy road. there plenty of things that could have said. _ plenty of things that could have said. but— plenty of things that could have said, but i want to be honest about the challenges and what will be
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required — the challenges and what will be required to fix them. even though it hasn't _ required to fix them. even though it hasn't made — required to fix them. even though it hasn't made my life easy, it is on thing _ hasn't made my life easy, it is on thing to do. — hasn't made my life easy, it is on thing to do, and that's what leadership is about. the latest predictions — leadership is about. the latest predictions for _ leadership is about. the latest predictions for the _ leadership is about. the latest predictions for the price i leadership is about. the latest predictions for the price cap i leadership is about. the latest i predictions for the price cap here is that you will go up 77% on the 1st of october, so typical usage will go up from £1971 a year to 3500 a year, and then it'll go up again injanuary. it's simply unaffordable for millions of households, i haven't yet heard from these candidates how they will solve this. you're absolutely right. there is a genuine _ you're absolutely right. there is a genuine emergency going on right now. that doesn't really adequately explaining what's going to happen injanuary when most people — to happen injanuary when most people face a single month's bill of £500 _ people face a single month's bill of £500. that'sjust for one month
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because — £500. that'sjust for one month because that's the period in the winter— because that's the period in the winter when you spend moats. —— most~ _ winter when you spend moats. —— most~ it's— winter when you spend moats. —— most. it's amazing both candidates can't _ most. it's amazing both candidates can't see _ most. it's amazing both candidates can't see this coming down the track as being _ can't see this coming down the track as being the — can't see this coming down the track as being the issue that the general public— as being the issue that the general public are — as being the issue that the general public are really interested in, and so what _ public are really interested in, and so what was fascinating tonight is that those hustings we saw both of them _ that those hustings we saw both of them trying to outbid each other in terms _ them trying to outbid each other in terms of what they thought tory members — terms of what they thought tory members might like, but we saw very little on _ members might like, but we saw very little on the _ members might like, but we saw very little on the cost of living crisis. just more — little on the cost of living crisis. just more promises ofjam tomorrow. whoever— just more promises ofjam tomorrow. whoever wins is going to have to ripped _ whoever wins is going to have to ripped this — whoever wins is going to have to ripped this up immediately, or else the tory party could face catastrophic losses —— have to ripped — catastrophic losses —— have to ripped this. —— grip. richey 's do not's _ ripped this. —— grip. richey 's do not's so—called treachery came to the ford — not's so—called treachery came to the ford. there were cheers for boris _ the ford. there were cheers for borisjohnson. it was the ford. there were cheers for boris johnson. it was as if boris johnson — boris johnson. it was as if boris johnson was in the room, and they
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really— johnson was in the room, and they really like — johnson was in the room, and they really like the fact that liz truss was quite low l. for sunak to come back— was quite low l. for sunak to come back that _ was quite low l. for sunak to come back that came with some... he talks about— back that came with some... he talks about bringing back grammar school. that might _ about bringing back grammar school. that might be the sort of scene that the average member light, but... you wonder if they have to look at windfall taxes again. operational profits for centre, co. were at 1.34 billion. that was up from around 200 million from this point last year. huge profits. they today restored their dividends. while we have been on air, the opening ceremony of the 2022 commonwealth games has got underway. for the next two weeks, over 5000 athletes from 72 countries will be competing in birmingham in 280 events. the executive producer of this opening ceremony was steven knight,
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creator of the bbc drama peaky blinders. the ceremony he said would not be ignoring the 'difficult history of the commonwealth', but alongside that he said they would "embrace the differences" within the commonwealth and celebrate that 'spirit of resilience'. which brings us very nicely us to our next guest, a four—time commonwealth gold medal winner, gold medal winner, who perhaps epitomises that resilience more than any other precious mckenzie was born in south africa, with pneumonia and a hole in the chest, he survived appalling chilhood abuse, and escaped apartheid he survived appalling childhood abuse, and escaped apartheid to compete in 1966 for england. he went on to win three gold medals in weightlifting, one for new zealand. and, aged 86, i'm very pleased that he isjoining tonight from the lake district. what a great honour to have you on this very important date. does it bring back memories for you? tater? bring back memories for you? very much so. thank— bring back memories for you? very much so. thank you _ bring back memories for you? very much so. thank you very _ bring back memories for you? very much so. thank you very much for having _ much so. thank you very much for having me — much so. thank you very much for having me on _ much so. thank you very much for having me on the _ much so. thank you very much for having me on the programme. i. much so. thank you very much for- having me on the programme. i really appreciate _ having me on the programme. i really appreciate that — having me on the programme. i really appreciate that. i'm _ having me on the programme. i really appreciate that. i'm getting _
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appreciate that. i'm getting recognition _ appreciate that. i'm getting recognition. that's - appreciate that. i'm getting recognition. that's one i appreciate that. i'm gettingl recognition. that's one good appreciate that. i'm getting - recognition. that's one good thing about— recognition. that's one good thing about todav — recognition. that's one good thing about today-— recognition. that's one good thing about toda . ., , . . ., recognition. that's one good thing abouttoda. ., . ., , about today. hope does a man who is 'ust four about today. hope does a man who is just four become _ about today. hope does a man who is just four become a _ about today. hope does a man who is just four become a commonwealth i just four become a commonwealth legend? i just four become a commonwealth leuend? ., �* , , legend? i don't believe in self raise legend? i don't believe in self praise -- _ legend? i don't believe in self praise -- 4'11". _ legend? i don't believe in self praise -- 4'11". but _ legend? i don't believe in self praise -- 4'11". but i'm i legend? i don't believe in selfl praise -- 4'11". but i'm slowing praise —— 4'11". but i'm slowing down _ praise —— 4'11". but i'm slowing down now because _ praise —— 4'11". but i'm slowing down now because i'm - praise —— 4'11". but i'm slowing down now because i'm losing l praise —— 4'11". but i'm slowing i down now because i'm losing my voice, _ down now because i'm losing my voice. but — down now because i'm losing my voice. but i — down now because i'm losing my voice, but i could _ down now because i'm losing my voice, but i could still— down now because i'm losing my| voice, but i could still community —— communicates _ voice, but i could still community —— communicates up _ voice, but i could still community —— communicates up what - voice, but i could still community| —— communicates up what you are part of the _ —— communicates up what you are part of the commonwealth _ —— communicates up what you are part of the commonwealth games - —— communicates up what you are part of the commonwealth games a - —— communicates up what you are part of the commonwealth games a story, i of the commonwealth games a story, but it— of the commonwealth games a story, but it hasn't— of the commonwealth games a story, but it hasn't been— of the commonwealth games a story, but it hasn't been very— of the commonwealth games a story, but it hasn't been very easy. - of the commonwealth games a story, but it hasn't been very easy. take- but it hasn't been very easy. take us back to — but it hasn't been very easy. take us back to your _ but it hasn't been very easy. tail}; us back to your childhood. but it hasn't been very easy. us back to your childhood. what but it hasn't been very easy.- us back to your childhood. what was it about your childhood that prepared you for the sport you are going to compete in. where did that resilience come from? it going to compete in. where did that resilience come from?— going to compete in. where did that resilience come from? it comes from sheer determination _ resilience come from? it comes from sheer determination because - resilience come from? it comes from sheer determination because south l sheer determination because south africa _ sheer determination because south africa would — sheer determination because south africa would not _ sheer determination because south africa would not allow— sheer determination because south africa would not allow me - sheer determination because south africa would not allow me to - africa would not allow me to represent _ africa would not allow me to represent the _ africa would not allow me to represent the country. - africa would not allow me to i represent the country. because of colour _ represent the country. because of colour. unfortunately, _ represent the country. because of
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colour. unfortunately, i— represent the country. because of colour. unfortunately, i missed i colour. unfortunately, i missed since _ colour. unfortunately, i missed since 1947, _ colour. unfortunately, i missed since 1947, i_ colour. unfortunately, i missed since 1947, i was _ colour. unfortunately, i missed since 1947, i was already... i colour. unfortunately, i missed since 1947, i was already... no| colour. unfortunately, i missed - since 1947, i was already... no way i would _ since 1947, i was already... no way i would have — since 1947, i was already... no way i would have represented _ since 1947, i was already... no way i would have represented the - i would have represented the country _ i would have represented the country in _ i would have represented the count . " ~ i would have represented the count. ., i would have represented the count . ., ., country. in 1964, you've moved to britain with — country. in 1964, you've moved to britain with your _ country. in 1964, you've moved to britain with your wife. _ country. in 1964, you've moved to britain with your wife. the - country. in 1964, you've moved to britain with your wife. the thin - britain with your wife. the thin sports minister fast track your citizenship so that you could compete for england —— and the then minister and you win two more goals. your life changes completely. you meet the queen, you dance with princess anne and tell us the story about you and mohammed ali. it wars princess anne and tell us the story about you and mohammed ali. it was a function in london. _ about you and mohammed ali. it was a function in london. i— about you and mohammed ali. it was a function in london. i was— about you and mohammed ali. it was a function in london. i was invited - function in london. i was invited with_ function in london. i was invited with mohammed _ function in london. i was invited with mohammed ali _ function in london. i was invited with mohammed ali and - function in london. i was invited with mohammed ali and henry. function in london. i was invited -
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with mohammed ali and henry cooper. all of a _ with mohammed ali and henry cooper. all of a sudden, — with mohammed ali and henry cooper. all of a sudden, commentator- with mohammed ali and henry cooper. all of a sudden, commentator came i with mohammed ali and henry cooper. all of a sudden, commentator came up to me _ all of a sudden, commentator came up to me and _ all of a sudden, commentator came up to me and asked — all of a sudden, commentator came up to me and asked if— all of a sudden, commentator came up to me and asked if i— all of a sudden, commentator came up to me and asked if i could _ all of a sudden, commentator came up to me and asked if i could lift - all of a sudden, commentator came up to me and asked if i could lift him - to me and asked if i could lift him up. to me and asked if i could lift him up. mohammed _ to me and asked if i could lift him up. mohammed heard— to me and asked if i could lift him up. mohammed heard that, - to me and asked if i could lift him up. mohammed heard that, and i up. mohammed heard that, and he looked _ up. mohammed heard that, and he looked at _ up. mohammed heard that, and he looked at me — up. mohammed heard that, and he looked at me and _ up. mohammed heard that, and he looked at me and says, _ up. mohammed heard that, and he looked at me and says, do - up. mohammed heard that, and he looked at me and says, do you - up. mohammed heard that, and hei looked at me and says, do you think you can _ looked at me and says, do you think you can lift — looked at me and says, do you think you can lift me — looked at me and says, do you think you can lift me up? _ looked at me and says, do you think you can lift me up? so— looked at me and says, do you think you can lift me up? so i— looked at me and says, do you think you can lift me up? so i did - looked at me and says, do you think you can lift me up? so i did it- you can lift me up? so i did it three — you can lift me up? so i did it three times _ you can lift me up? so i did it three times and _ you can lift me up? so i did it three times and i _ you can lift me up? so i did it three times and i did lift- you can lift me up? so i did it three times and i did lift him| you can lift me up? so i did it. three times and i did lift him up. he shelves— three times and i did lift him up. he shelves to _ three times and i did lift him up. he shelves to put _ three times and i did lift him up. he shelves to put him _ three times and i did lift him up. he shelves to put him down - three times and i did lift him up. - he shelves to put him down and said he never thought— he shelves to put him down and said he never thought i— he shelves to put him down and said he never thought i could _ he shelves to put him down and said he never thought i could do - he shelves to put him down and said he never thought i could do that. - he never thought i could do that. there's_ he never thought i could do that. there's been an _ he never thought i could do that. there's been an awful— he never thought i could do that. there's been an awful lot - he never thought i could do that. . there's been an awful lot about the history of the commonwealth with its colonial roots. what would you say about the commonwealth games, how it's changed and whether it does play an important role?- play an important role? well, it does -la play an important role? well, it does play an — play an important role? well, it does play an important - play an important role? well, it does play an important role - play an important role? well, it - does play an important role because there's_ does play an important role because there's no— does play an important role because there's no racism _ does play an important role because there's no racism there _ does play an important role because there's no racism there and - does play an important role because there's no racism there and i-
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there's no racism there and i competed _ there's no racism there and i competed in_ there's no racism there and i competed in and _ there's no racism there and ii competed in and international weightlifting _ competed in and international weightlifting —— weightlifting. weightlifting — — weightlifting everywhere _ weightlifting —— weightlifting everywhere else, _ weightlifting —— weightlifting everywhere else, but- weightlifting —— weightliftingi everywhere else, but there's weightlifting —— weightlifting. everywhere else, but there's no weightlifting —— weightlifting - everywhere else, but there's no way there's— everywhere else, but there's no way there's demonstration— everywhere else, but there's no way there's demonstration —— _ there's demonstration —— discrimination— there's demonstration —— discrimination in- there's demonstration ——| discrimination in the sport there's demonstration —— - discrimination in the sport itself. it's discrimination in the sport itself. its a _ discrimination in the sport itself. its a great — discrimination in the sport itself. it's a great pleasure _ discrimination in the sport itself. it's a great pleasure to _ discrimination in the sport itself. it's a great pleasure to have - discrimination in the sport itself. it's a great pleasure to have you | discrimination in the sport itself. . it's a great pleasure to have you on the programme. 86 years old, precious mckenzie, think you. it’s precious mckenzie, think you. it's my pleasure. now it's time for the panel. rina, that's a rather nice segue. precious is 86 years old, he's very close to his family and his children, and you want to talk about a story of different generations living together. explain. there's a new housing _ living together. explain. there's a new housing trend _ living together. explain. there's a new housing trend here. - living together. explain. there's a new housing trend here. it's - new housing trend here. it's intergenerational living. a number of intergenerational households in
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the us is quadrupling since 1971. i was surprised to learn about that. i was surprised to learn about that. i was born in the early 19805 and grew up was born in the early 19805 and grew up in what we would call a joint family. i am a grand for —— grandparents with me and a trove of dance and uncles. —— aunts and uncles. a lot of history. intergenerational living is actually the natural state of humanity. it's how we pass on our values, our intelligence, knowledge down to the next generation. i was really glad to see that there are more intergenerational living arrangements here in the us. i think it's because we have such... affordable living in housing, but i think the older generation... it will really enrich the lives of
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those people who live in those arrangements. i'm looking to do that with my family. i arrangements. i'm looking to do that with my family-— with my family. i was talking to someone today, _ with my family. i was talking to someone today, sometimes - with my family. i was talking to someone today, sometimes i i with my family. i was talking to - someone today, sometimes i don't get home at night and sometimes we have to eat processed food. there's obviously a point about rich and down payments, but i wonder if quality of life for younger people would be that much better were other generations around. i would be that much better were other generations around.— generations around. iagree. ithink it makes life _ generations around. iagree. ithink it makes life richer— generations around. iagree. ithink it makes life richer to _ generations around. iagree. ithink it makes life richer to come - generations around. i agree. i think| it makes life richer to come home to a warm meal, just having somebody else there at home can really help with a lot of societal stress that we all have come to learn during the error of this pandemic. —— the era. it's really healthy. a5 error of this pandemic. —— the era. it's really healthy. as a product of that living, i really highly recommend it to anyone, even if it's just looking for a roommate. find somebody that's older wiser than you
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upright paul, it's interesting that they upright paul, it's interesting that the j , upright paul, it's interesting that the j . ., , ., ~' upright paul, it's interesting that the , w ., ., they could be making hay out of the leadership contest, _ they could be making hay out of the leadership contest, but _ they could be making hay out of the leadership contest, but fighting - leadership contest, but fighting over keir starmer�*s explosion. is over keir starmer's explosion. is what we should call new ten's third law in british politics. this guy, — ten's third law in british politics. this guy, the shadow transport secretary. _ this guy, the shadow transport secretary, his biggest sin was breaking _ secretary, his biggest sin was breaking with the party line and suggesting there should be inflation linked _ suggesting there should be inflation linked play rises —— pay rises for rail workers _ linked play rises —— pay rises for railworkers. it's linked play rises —— pay rises for rail workers. it's not the labour perty's— rail workers. it's not the labour party's official line, it just goes to show— party's official line, it just goes to show the way it was handled. it was second — to show the way it was handled. it was second on the bbc news after the conservatives. it goes to show labour — conservatives. it goes to show labour somehow can't help itself avoid _ labour somehow can't help itself avoid that— labour somehow can't help itself avoid that law.— avoid that law. there is no free ride in politics. _ avoid that law. there is no free ride in politics. labour- avoid that law. there is no free ride in politics. labourjust - ride in politics. labourjust show us that! rina and paul, thank you
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both. we will be back same time tomorrow. thanks very much for watching. hello. a tale of two cities to start this weather for the week ahead. well, one's a town. the city first of all, and that is christchurch in new zealand, where it's had not just its wettestjuly but wettest of any month on record, those records going back to the 19th century. 266mm so far thisjuly and counting. it looks like there's more moisture to come going into the weekend as well. whereas the town, christchurch, dorset, england, has had only a trace of rainfall so far thisjuly and looking at the next five days, although there'll be weather systems coming in giving some rain in places, some of these driest parts of england will see very little. and temperatures are about to go back above average again. nothing too extreme, but heading back above average, with some spots towards south—east england getting back into the upper
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205 celsius for a time. now, we have high pressure close by, but its beginning to move away and low pressure is approaching. it's ahead of that we're drawing in some warmer weather, but also increasing the chance of seeing some rain over the next couple of days across northern areas. now, before that low pressure really starts to show its hand, a little patchy rain for friday for northern england, south—east scotland clearing away, then it's sunny spells and scattered showers. with a more generous amount of sunshine, it's going to feel warmer. amount of sunshine, it's that's where we see those temperatures through central and eastern and southern england getting towards the mid and, in some places, upper 205. now, here comes the area of low pressure, the first one, giving some wet weather to end friday in northern ireland overnight and into saturday, taking the rain across scotland. again, useful rain in places. weather fronts start to move south on saturday, but they're weakening as they do so, so there isn't a huge amount of rain left, maybe towards northern and western parts of england on saturday afternoon, into wales,
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drier with some showers in scotland and northern ireland, still dry towards east anglia and the south—east. cloud increasing, but temperatures again into the upper 205. instead ofjust heading south and clearing through, this is the picture for sunday. these weather fronts look like they're going to stall across central areas, and particularly into parts of england and wales, with some showery rain along them. but there's a lot of uncertainty about the exact position. the rain actually could be a little bit further south, so keep on watching the forecast. if you have got outdoor plans towards the south and south—east on sunday, well, there's still a chance of seeing some rain, whereas scotland and northern ireland are looking mainly dry, and actually, at this stage, have turned a bit cooler because along with these waving weather fronts, if we look at the picture for monday, you've got some cooler air sitting to the north, still some quite warm and rather humid airat sitting to the south as well, and along with those fronts, through parts of england and wales, and maybe at times into southern and eastern scotland, some showery rain around, some showery rain around. but it could still be avoiding those driest parts of southern england, and again, as we look at the picture
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for tuesday and into wednesday, we've got low pressure close by. tuesday has got one weather system beginning to pull away. still has some showers around it as it does so, but also some sunny spells, too, so nowhere necessarily particularly looking like a washout, but there could be a trailing weather front sitting through parts of northern ireland, southern scotland, northern england, for example. another area of low pressure into wednesday. looks like a quick—moving one, taking a spell of rain, particularly across northern areas, and after that, later in the week, it looks like high pressure is going to build in and for many is going to build in and for many areas, will settle the weather down for a time and also cool things where it's been very warm.
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i'm laura trevelyan in washington, and this is bbc world news america. the us economy shrinks again but the president doesn't see a recession. for the second quarter in a row, us economic output falls, raising fears of a recession. but us officials say unemployment is still low. the us energy secretary tells us the new senate climate deal could finally enable america to lower carbon emissions. the us and chinese leaders talk by phone for a marathon two hours plus — as tensions grow over taiwan. soldiers on the front line of the war in ukraine say they're doing better against russia — thanks to the arrival of western weapons. kenya's elephants in danger. climate change is now more of a threat than poaching.
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