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tv   The Context with Christian Fraser  BBC News  September 28, 2022 9:00pm-10:00pm BST

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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. the bank of england is forced to step in to avert a collapse of uk bond markets. insiders say an intervention was required to prevent a vicious cycle becoming even more dangerous for the pension funds. high winds and a record storm surge are expected as hurricane ian lands in florida. tornado warnings have been issued for tourist hotspots like orlando. and norway steps up security around its key installations after three unexplained leaks appear in the nord stream gas pipelines. tonight with the context, republican strategist rina shah and the former scottish labour party leaderjim murphy, who was secretary of state for scotland in gordon brown's government.
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welcome to the programme. amid the turmoil in uk markets this week, the chancellor met the us banks today and was told in no uncertain terms that his budget which he has planned for november is "way too far away". the government needs to communicate much sooner, said the banks, on what the solution will be to the problem the city believes they created. it has been another chaotic day on the markets. this morning, the bank of england performed a screeching u—turn, putting the brakes on its plan to sell government bonds and instead launching a new scheme to buy them. think of it as a form of digital money printing. the bank is creating funds to to buy bonds which the government issues to borrow money. and this is why. since the mini budget, the cost of government borrowing long—term has shot up. it was spiralling above 5%. that's a 20—year high.
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we have seen rises in the last two days that would normally take years. the bank of england is buying up the debt, in essence creating artificial demand, to try and force down the cost of borrowing. you can see it has worked, to some extent, though it's only returned rates to where they were last week. the government insists it is still on the right track. this is treasury minister andrew griffith. we're seeing the same impacts of putin's war in ukraine cascading through things like the cost of energy, some of the supply—side implications of that. and that's impacting every major economy, and just the same, in every major economy, you're seeing interest rates going up as well. let's bring in stephanie flanders, who's the head of economics at bloomberg. lovely to see you so be gentle because some of this is quite technical. what was the urgency and what triggered the intervention
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today? it what triggered the intervention toda ? , ., ., today? it is important to distinguish _ today? it is important to distinguish and - today? it is important to distinguish and you - today? it is important to distinguish and you are i today? it is important to - distinguish and you are right when you talk_ distinguish and you are right when you talk about it being a reversal of quantitative easing of the bond purchases we have seen other central banks_ purchases we have seen other central banks do— purchases we have seen other central banks do as _ purchases we have seen other central banks do as well, but the bank of england _ banks do as well, but the bank of england is— banks do as well, but the bank of england is very keen for you not to think— england is very keen for you not to think of— england is very keen for you not to think of it — england is very keen for you not to think of it like that. they were explicit — think of it like that. they were explicit today saying it was not a monetary — explicit today saying it was not a monetary policy action, but an action— monetary policy action, but an action with their financial policy had on. — action with their financial policy had on. so _ action with their financial policy had on, so they also have a financial— had on, so they also have a financial stability committee as well as— financial stability committee as well as the monetary policy committee and it was that committee that looked at the implications for uk financial institutions, especially quite a lot of pension companies and insurers of this very dramatic— companies and insurers of this very dramatic rise you show there of the yields— dramatic rise you show there of the yields on— dramatic rise you show there of the yields on government 30 year debt. and they— yields on government 30 year debt. and they thought that that was potentially going to get into a downward spiral because those institutions, they have really long term _ institutions, they have really long term liabilities and they were forced — term liabilities and they were forced to— term liabilities and they were forced to hold a lot of that long dated _ forced to hold a lot of that long dated debt. as the value of those
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bonds. _ dated debt. as the value of those bonds, those ious crumbled over the last few— bonds, those ious crumbled over the last few days as people lost confidence in the uk government's public— confidence in the uk government's public finances, the value of those assets _ public finances, the value of those assets sitting on the balance sheets were falling, they were facing margin— were falling, they were facing margin calls where they were going to have _ margin calls where they were going to have to— margin calls where they were going to have to sell some of those assets to have to sell some of those assets to meet _ to have to sell some of those assets to meet their obligations. and obviously when you get into that cycle _ obviously when you get into that cycle where you have selling it because — cycle where you have selling it because the prices falling and then the price _ because the prices falling and then the price falls against you sell more. — the price falls against you sell more, that was what the bank of england — more, that was what the bank of england was looking at the barrel of today— england was looking at the barrel of today and _ england was looking at the barrel of today and realise they have particularly in that bit of the market— particularly in that bit of the market you have highlighted, they had to— market you have highlighted, they had to get in there and buy and prop up the _ had to get in there and buy and prop up the price — had to get in there and buy and prop up the price-— up the price. what say you, stephanie? _ up the price. what say you, stephanie? that's - up the price. what say you, stephanie? that's the - up the price. what say you, stephanie? that's the way l up the price. what say you, i stephanie? that's the way the up the price. what say you, - stephanie? that's the way the bank wants us to see it but to a layman like me, it looks as though the bank is simultaneously tightening policy by raising interest rates to try and bring that inflation, which we have talked about a lot, but now also loosening policy by buying bonds to trapped and restore the functioning of the bond market. that's an uncomfortable balancing act, is it
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not? �* , , ., uncomfortable balancing act, is it not? , ., ., , uncomfortable balancing act, is it not? , ., ., not? and remember you already had the other mega _ not? and remember you already had the other mega balancing _ not? and remember you already had the other mega balancing act - not? and remember you already had the other mega balancing act which l the other mega balancing act which governments overall or having to do because _ governments overall or having to do because you have got the central banks— because you have got the central banks trying to put their feet on the brakes to stop inflation but also governments pumping money into the economy at least to help those households that are facing high energy— households that are facing high energy bills. so there is a lot of introductory policy happening or policy— introductory policy happening or policy that's got tension. i think what _ policy that's got tension. i think what they— policy that's got tension. i think what they would say is they would draw a _ what they would say is they would draw a distinction and same it's been _ draw a distinction and same it's been pretty stark, the rising borrowing costs for the government. that is _ borrowing costs for the government. that is a _ borrowing costs for the government. that is a problem for everybody and it's certainly a problem for the government. they were not particularly wanting to buy the government out of that, but what was happening _ government out of that, but what was happening to that long dated debt, as i happening to that long dated debt, as i say, _ happening to that long dated debt, as i say, was raising these kind of stability— as i say, was raising these kind of stability issues that they had been forced _ stability issues that they had been forced to— stability issues that they had been forced to build amount to that extent— forced to build amount to that extent because it raised this potential to really have a cascading effect _ potential to really have a cascading effect through institutions if you think— effect through institutions if you think about what is a 30 year debt bond? _ think about what is a 30 year debt bond? is— think about what is a 30 year debt bond? is a — think about what is a 30 year debt bond? is a 30 year iou and the
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interest— bond? is a 30 year iou and the interest rate on that should reflect what you _ interest rate on that should reflect what you think the average interest rate should be over 30 years, not 'ust rate should be over 30 years, not just the next couple of years, and if you _ just the next couple of years, and if you think— just the next couple of years, and if you think they are going to get control— if you think they are going to get control of— if you think they are going to get control of inflation, really it should _ control of inflation, really it should only be the sort of shorter—term debt that goes up a lot while you _ shorter—term debt that goes up a lot while you still have high inflation and what — while you still have high inflation and what you have interest rates going _ and what you have interest rates going up — and what you have interest rates going up. that long—term debt should not be _ going up. that long—term debt should not be going up to five or 6%, assuming _ not be going up to five or 6%, assuming the interest rates are going _ assuming the interest rates are going to — assuming the interest rates are going to be 6% for 30 years and we don't _ going to be 6% for 30 years and we don't actually think that. so they would _ don't actually think that. so they would say— don't actually think that. so they would say the market was overdoing it at that _ would say the market was overdoing it at that end and that's what they are trying — it at that end and that's what they are trying to fix. in it at that end and that's what they are trying to fix.— are trying to fix. in the very simplest — are trying to fix. in the very simplest terms, _ are trying to fix. in the very simplest terms, the - are trying to fix. in the very - simplest terms, the government has to impress on the banks that we are good for this. they have to have confidence in what we are doing, so with that in mind and the banks have made this clear today, why is everybody waiting until november? why can the chancellor not come out and say this is how we are going to pay down the debt? walk in the banks not say clearly inflation is on the
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run and went to do coming about it so here is your interest rate rise everybody wants a why not do it now? it's interesting, there are summaries of the treasury is going to have _ summaries of the treasury is going to have to— summaries of the treasury is going to have to act faster than november. arguably— to have to act faster than november. arguably the mistake, the really big mistake _ arguably the mistake, the really big mistake that was made last friday is whatever— mistake that was made last friday is whatever the chancellor was planning, whatever tax cuts he wanted — planning, whatever tax cuts he wanted to _ planning, whatever tax cuts he wanted to produce, to announce them without— wanted to produce, to announce them without those independent costings from the _ without those independent costings from the physical watchdog, the office _ from the physical watchdog, the office for— from the physical watchdog, the office for budget responsibility, that was what say an extra single they really did not care about how much it _ they really did not care about how much it was going to cost or how they— much it was going to cost or how they were going to make the numbers up they were going to make the numbers up and how— they were going to make the numbers up and how they had to have that plan brought out last friday rather than waiting to have all of their ducks— than waiting to have all of their ducks in— than waiting to have all of their ducks in a — than waiting to have all of their ducks in a row, i guess he will never— ducks in a row, i guess he will never know. but i think there is an argument. — never know. but i think there is an argument, and you are right, the argument— argument, and you are right, the argument for the bank waiting is that it _ argument for the bank waiting is that it then gives time for the government to fix it but if the government to fix it but if the government don't fix it, then you have _ government don't fix it, then you have just got a long delay on both sides _ have just got a long delay on both sides jim — have just got a long delay on both sides. , ~ , , ., , jim, leaders don't tend to come out at this time of year
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when the opposition party conferences are under way, but the absence of the prime minister this week amid the turmoil we are seeing some would say is surprising. here is the labour leader speaking to our political editor chris maso, at the conclusion of their conference in liverpool today. it's coming, hang on. the government has lost control of the economy, i and that is self—inflicted. sometimes there's an economic crisis because of world events _ that can't be predicted. this is self—inflicted . in downing street with that budget last week. and millions of people now, you know, really worried - about the situation, - and for what, for what? uncosted tax breaks - for earners earning hundreds of thousands of pounds. what the government now needs to do i is to recall parliament immediately, i abandon that budget before any more damage is done _ i'm not sure they can walk back the
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tax cuts if they wanted to right now. politically it would do untold standing to her standing in the party but in any case the treasury seem to think it's on the right path, so what should they do? if the path, so what should they do? if the reall sad path, so what should they do? if the really sad day _ path, so what should they do? if the really sad day for _ path, so what should they do? if the really sad day for britain. _ path, so what should they do? if the really sad day for britain. i _ path, so what should they do? if true: really sad day for britain. i know this is replete with political opportunities and this political argument, but for those of us who want to see you no matter which government is in power, want to see the uk prosper, is a really sad day. and this is caused by politics. we all except and will be cheerless to say otherwise it most of the inflation in the uk is caused by world events. but what has happened today and over 1000 products in the mortgage market being withdrawn from the uk over the last few days is entirely made in downing street, number ten and number entirely made in downing street, numberten and number”. last friday, they announced a budget without external oversight that they just did not need to do, and innocently because liz truss wanted
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to draw a line between her premiership and what went before. and the thing that seems to have tipped things over the edge is abolishing the top rate of tax. and the cumulative effect of all of those tax cuts, i think the market justjudged that it was one tax cut too many. just judged that it was one tax cut too man . �* ., just judged that it was one tax cut too man . . ., ., , just judged that it was one tax cut tooman .�* ., ., , , just judged that it was one tax cut too man . . ., ., , , too many. and how does this look from outside? _ too many. and how does this look from outside? you _ too many. and how does this look from outside? you were _ too many. and how does this look from outside? you were over - too many. and how does this look from outside? you were over in i from outside? you were over in washington. moody's says this mini budget risks "permanently weakening the uk's debt affordability", which suggest the rating agencies are looking at a downgrade. confidence is like quicksilver, rina. when it is gone, it is gone. this stagflation which is engulfing the uk _ this stagflation which is engulfing the uk economy— this stagflation which is engulfing the uk economy shows _ this stagflation which is engulfing the uk economy shows what - this stagflation which is engulfing the uk economy shows what it. this stagflation which is engulfing i the uk economy shows what it could be for— the uk economy shows what it could be for us _ the uk economy shows what it could be for us here — the uk economy shows what it could be for us here in— the uk economy shows what it could be for us here in the _ the uk economy shows what it could be for us here in the us _ the uk economy shows what it could be for us here in the us as— the uk economy shows what it could be for us here in the us as well- the uk economy shows what it could be for us here in the us as well as l be for us here in the us as well as the rest _ be for us here in the us as well as the rest of— be for us here in the us as well as the rest of europe. _ be for us here in the us as well as the rest of europe. what - be for us here in the us as well as the rest of europe. what i'm - be for us here in the us as well as| the rest of europe. what i'm really concerned — the rest of europe. what i'm really concerned about, _ the rest of europe. what i'm really concerned about, though, - the rest of europe. what i'm really concerned about, though, is - the rest of europe. what i'm really concerned about, though, is there| the rest of europe. what i'm really. concerned about, though, is there is this talk— concerned about, though, is there is this talk of— concerned about, though, is there is this talk of stagflation _ concerned about, though, is there is this talk of stagflation growing - concerned about, though, is there is this talk of stagflation growing in - this talk of stagflation growing in the us— this talk of stagflation growing in the us is— this talk of stagflation growing in the us is it's _ this talk of stagflation growing in the us is it's the _ this talk of stagflation growing in the us is it's the uk— this talk of stagflation growing in the us is it's the uk economy- this talk of stagflation growing in. the us is it's the uk economy that is going _ the us is it's the uk economy that is going to — the us is it's the uk economy that is going to start— the us is it's the uk economy that is going to start really— the us is it's the uk economy that is going to start really soon and i the us is it's the uk economy thati is going to start really soon and we see the stalling _ is going to start really soon and we see the stalling has— is going to start really soon and we see the stalling has happened. i see the stalling has happened. we are talk— see the stalling has happened. we are talk about _ see the stalling has happened. we
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are talk about it _ see the stalling has happened. we are talk about it from _ see the stalling has happened. we are talk about it from this - see the stalling has happened. we are talk about it from this summer onward, _ are talk about it from this summer onward, and — are talk about it from this summer onward, and hearing _ are talk about it from this summer onward, and hearing it _ are talk about it from this summer onward, and hearing it with- are talk about it from this summerl onward, and hearing it with autumn hitting _ onward, and hearing it with autumn hitting and — onward, and hearing it with autumn hitting and we — onward, and hearing it with autumn hitting and we can _ onward, and hearing it with autumn hitting and we can talk _ onward, and hearing it with autumn hitting and we can talk all _ onward, and hearing it with autumn hitting and we can talk all we - onward, and hearing it with autumn hitting and we can talk all we wantl hitting and we can talk all we want about— hitting and we can talk all we want about european—style _ hitting and we can talk all we want about european—style energy- hitting and we can talk all we want l about european—style energy shocks but with _ about european—style energy shocks but with the — about european—style energy shocks but with the uk_ about european—style energy shocks but with the uk is— about european—style energy shocks but with the uk is suffering - about european—style energy shocks but with the uk is suffering from i about european—style energy shocks but with the uk is suffering from is i but with the uk is suffering from is a problem — but with the uk is suffering from is a problem more _ but with the uk is suffering from is a problem more familiar— but with the uk is suffering from is a problem more familiar to - but with the uk is suffering from is a problem more familiar to us i but with the uk is suffering from is a problem more familiar to us over here _ a problem more familiar to us over here in— a problem more familiar to us over here in that's — a problem more familiar to us over here in that's a _ a problem more familiar to us over here in that's a real— a problem more familiar to us over here in that's a real shortage i here in that's a real shortage of workers — here in that's a real shortage of workers. people _ here in that's a real shortage of workers. people who _ here in that's a real shortage of workers. people who are - here in that's a real shortage of workers. people who are not i here in that's a real shortage of - workers. people who are not returned to the _ workers. people who are not returned to the economy— workers. people who are not returned to the economy due _ workers. people who are not returned to the economy due to _ workers. people who are not returned to the economy due to long—term i to the economy due to long—term illness, _ to the economy due to long—term illness, for— to the economy due to long—term illness, for example, _ to the economy due to long—term illness, for example, but - to the economy due to long—term illness, for example, but again i illness, for example, but again looking — illness, for example, but again looking at— illness, for example, but again looking at your _ illness, for example, but again looking at your side _ illness, for example, but again looking at your side for - illness, for example, but again looking at your side for a - illness, for example, but again i looking at your side for a moment, one thing _ looking at your side for a moment, one thing we — looking at your side for a moment, one thing we saw— looking at your side for a moment, one thing we saw coming - looking at your side for a moment, one thing we saw coming down- looking at your side for a moment, one thing we saw coming down the pipe this— one thing we saw coming down the pipe this summer— one thing we saw coming down the pipe this summer was _ one thing we saw coming down the pipe this summer was brexit- one thing we saw coming down the pipe this summer was brexit was l one thing we saw coming down the pipe this summer was brexit was aj pipe this summer was brexit was a problem. — pipe this summer was brexit was a problem. tax — pipe this summer was brexit was a problem, tax rises _ pipe this summer was brexit was a problem, tax rises certainly- pipe this summer was brexit was a problem, tax rises certainly did i pipe this summer was brexit was a| problem, tax rises certainly did not help so— problem, tax rises certainly did not help so this — problem, tax rises certainly did not help so this the _ problem, tax rises certainly did not help so this the worst _ problem, tax rises certainly did not help so this the worst ever - help so this the worst ever cost—of—living _ help so this the worst ever cost—of—living crisis- help so this the worst ever cost—of—living crisis that i help so this the worst ever i cost—of—living crisis that britain has seen — cost—of—living crisis that britain has seen. millions— cost—of—living crisis that britain has seen. millions of— cost—of—living crisis that britain has seen. millions of them i cost—of—living crisis that britain has seen. millions of them are i has seen. millions of them are experience _ has seen. millions of them are experience it _ has seen. millions of them are experience it and _ has seen. millions of them are experience it and having - has seen. millions of them are experience it and having to i has seen. millions of them are experience it and having to go| has seen. millions of them are . experience it and having to go to the food — experience it and having to go to the food bank— experience it and having to go to the food bank in _ experience it and having to go to the food bank in such— experience it and having to go to the food bank in such an - experience it and having to go to the food bank in such an one i the food bank in such an one thing we can— the food bank in such an one thing we can learn— the food bank in such an one thing we can learn here in _ the food bank in such an one thing we can learn here in the _ the food bank in such an one thing we can learn here in the us is- the food bank in such an one thing we can learn here in the us is how to pump— we can learn here in the us is how to pumpthe— we can learn here in the us is how to pump the brakes _ we can learn here in the us is how to pump the brakes in— we can learn here in the us is how. to pump the brakes in this economy as what— to pump the brakes in this economy as what we — to pump the brakes in this economy as what we can _ to pump the brakes in this economy as what we can do _ to pump the brakes in this economy as what we can do about _ to pump the brakes in this economy as what we can do about stagflationj as what we can do about stagflation now but _ as what we can do about stagflation now but i'm — as what we can do about stagflation now but i'm just— as what we can do about stagflation now but i'm just not— as what we can do about stagflation now but i'm just not sure _ now but i'm just not sure the administration _ now but i'm just not sure the administration has _ now but i'm just not sure the administration has the - now but i'm just not sure the administration has the best i now but i'm just not sure the i administration has the best plan. now but i'm just not sure the - administration has the best plan. we are in— administration has the best plan. we are in for— administration has the best plan. we are in forthe— administration has the best plan. we are in for the worst _ administration has the best plan. we are in for the worst over— administration has the best plan. we are in for the worst over here - administration has the best plan. we are in for the worst over here and i are in for the worst over here and that's— are in for the worst over here and that's what— are in for the worst over here and that's what i_ are in for the worst over here and that's what i really— are in for the worst over here and that's what i really worry - are in for the worst over here and that's what i really worry about i are in for the worst over here and that's what i really worry about is| that's what i really worry about is what we — that's what i really worry about is what we are seeing _ that's what i really worry about is what we are seeing over- that's what i really worry about is what we are seeing over there i that's what i really worry about is| what we are seeing over there for you guys— what we are seeing over there for you guys is— what we are seeing over there for you guys is about _ what we are seeing over there for you guys is about to _ what we are seeing over there for you guys is about to be _ what we are seeing over there for you guys is about to be our- what we are seeing over there for| you guys is about to be our reality very soon — you guys is about to be our reality very soon l — you guys is about to be our reality very soon-— very soon. i will come back to that in a second- _ very soon. i will come back to that in a second. there _ very soon. i will come back to that in a second. there were _ very soon. i will come back to that in a second. there were people i
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in a second. there were people watching this who will have read and some of their newspapers the idea that a lot of this is speculation and they will look at the level of debt that italy is carrying with a new hard right government or the debt that germany has accumulated and the downturn in confidence there. and they will look at many of there. and they will look at many of the things that america just sent out and they will think why is the uk getting a kicking when a lot of these tax because our returning taxes to we were before this conservative government put them all the way up to a 70 year high? there is a sense in which _ the way up to a 70 year high? there is a sense in which every _ the way up to a 70 year high? there is a sense in which every government is going _ is a sense in which every government is going to _ is a sense in which every government is going to face a version of this. it is going to face a version of this. it sort of— is going to face a version of this. it sort of a — is going to face a version of this. it sort of a question of how quickly it happens— it sort of a question of how quickly it happens at many things are broken along _ it happens at many things are broken along the _ it happens at many things are broken along the way. we are in a world where just— along the way. we are in a world where just households and governments have got used to really low interest rates and every time you renegotiated your mortgage, you find it— you renegotiated your mortgage, you find it more _ you renegotiated your mortgage, you find it more often or not it was lower— find it more often or not it was lower than— find it more often or not it was lower than it was before. and we are all looking _ lower than it was before. and we are all looking down the track at and indeed _ all looking down the track at and indeed now at higher interest rates
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and prospectively a four or five percentage point base rate in a year or so's_ percentage point base rate in a year or so's time~ — percentage point base rate in a year or so's time. and governments will have _ or so's time. and governments will have applications from every government getting to struggle with that because they ran up a lot of debt— that because they ran up a lot of debt thinking that they only were going _ debt thinking that they only were going to have very low interest rates — going to have very low interest rates i— going to have very low interest rates. i think the issue for the uk and by— rates. i think the issue for the uk and by the — rates. i think the issue for the uk and by the way italy has seen an increase — and by the way italy has seen an increase in— and by the way italy has seen an increase in its borrowing costs that are almost — increase in its borrowing costs that are almost as great and certainly puts it _ are almost as great and certainly puts it into — are almost as great and certainly puts it into very unsustainable territory — puts it into very unsustainable territory given how high its debt is, but — territory given how high its debt is, but i — territory given how high its debt is, but i think what's happened with the uk _ is, but i think what's happened with the uk is _ is, but i think what's happened with the uk is you have had all of that adjustment people are looking at for the next _ adjustment people are looking at for the next year almost happening in six or— the next year almost happening in six or seven weeks or in the government debt market. and it is a bit of— government debt market. and it is a bit of a _ government debt market. and it is a bit of a lesson to other countries but one — bit of a lesson to other countries but one of— bit of a lesson to other countries but one of the lessons is if everybody is in a tough position, you don't— everybody is in a tough position, you don't want to look like the worst of— you don't want to look like the worst of the bad bunch and usually don't _ worst of the bad bunch and usually don't want — worst of the bad bunch and usually don't want to look like you don't care _ don't want to look like you don't care because i think that was a signal— care because i think that was a signal last friday was it was not costing — signal last friday was it was not costing them anything else might it look like _ costing them anything else might it look like they did not care and we were _ look like they did not care and we were going to make the problem a bit work and _ were going to make the problem a bit work and do _ were going to make the problem a bit work and do not think it mattered.
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some _ work and do not think it mattered. some of— work and do not think it mattered. some of this really is technical stuff which goes over my head so i don't know about the rest of our viewers, but if you boil it down to kitchen table stuff, a lot of us have had a bit of money given back to the tax cuts but then it seems to me i'm paying an awful lot more in my mortgage costs, and my also losing all my pension today? i mean, net balance sort of perspective, am i actually losing out here? to net balance sort of perspective, am i actually losing out here?— i actually losing out here? to be clear, if almost _ i actually losing out here? to be clear, if almost everyone - i actually losing out here? to be clear, if almost everyone havingj clear, if almost everyone having and their pension a lot of government bonds— their pension a lot of government bonds may— their pension a lot of government bonds may at a value by the third so far this year. — bonds may at a value by the third so far this year, so we all lost money on those things. the problem with this is— on those things. the problem with this is this — on those things. the problem with this is this is this is a growth plan, — this is this is this is a growth plan, but _ this is this is this is a growth plan, but the direct consequences of that growth plan has been to make it harder— that growth plan has been to make it harder for— that growth plan has been to make it harder for the economy to grow because — harder for the economy to grow because you are going to have higher interest— because you are going to have higher interest rates and as you say people are going _ interest rates and as you say people are going to be feeling even more the cost of— are going to be feeling even more the cost of living if they have a mortgage. so they really have shot themselves in the foot because all themselves in the foot because all the things he wanted to achieve with
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that plan— the things he wanted to achieve with that plan are not going to be much harder to _ that plan are not going to be much harder to do. i�*m that plan are not going to be much harder to de— harder to do. i'm an optimist, jim. thins harder to do. i'm an optimist, jim. things that — harder to do. i'm an optimist, jim. things that go _ harder to do. i'm an optimist, jim. things that go down _ harder to do. i'm an optimist, jim. things that go down must - harder to do. i'm an optimist, jim. things that go down must come i harder to do. i'm an optimist, jim. i things that go down must come back up, and that is very evident in the polls. i am sure keir starmer will put these polls in perspective. a lot of the sample work for these polls has been done while we are in the midst of a financial crisis, but nonetheless the leads are significant. delta gives labour a i3—point lead. yougov has it even wider, 17 points. savanta comres, carried out a little earlier, puts labour's lead at 12 points. we are three years into a five—year term in which the conservatives won in a landslide. on these figures, with these margins, if there was an election now, labour would take control. this is a moment of realjeopardy for liz truss and the chancellor. they are just in the door of downing street and is an entirely new administration, admittedly with the
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same party, and i think it's going to be very difficult for the conservatives to recover their economic credentials in time for the next general election. so for the first time in a dozen years, there's a very real prospect of a labour government, but i was in the labour party conference, no one is taking it for granted. they know that some of this lead is brought about by conservative and competence, but much of it is also because keir starmer has over the last three years transform the labour party at a time where it is more moderate and centrist at a time when liz truss has vacated the centre grin on british politics.— has vacated the centre grin on british politics. you are talking about confidence _ british politics. you are talking about confidence which - british politics. you are talking about confidence which let's i british politics. you are talking i about confidence which let's face it was already pretty thin. we have had some retailfigures was already pretty thin. we have had some retail figures out today. retail stocks slumped this morning after a profit warning from boohoo, which compounded fears about consumer spending. in germany, too, consumer confidence is on a record downward slide. and this from america today.
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american satisfaction with the way things have risen back to where it was in april, before gas prices went haywire, but as gallup points out, even now satisfaction is averaging 18% this year, which puts it on the level with 1979 or the crash in 2008 and 2011. the historical average of american satisfaction with the state of the economy since 2006 — 25%. we are way below historic averages of american satisfaction at the moment. ., ., ~' of american satisfaction at the moment. ., ., ,, ., moment. the one to think a little talk about when _ moment. the one to think a little talk about when we _ moment. the one to think a little talk about when we have - moment. the one to think a little talk about when we have politicalj talk about when we have political conversations _ talk about when we have political conversations in _ talk about when we have political conversations in washington i talk about when we have political conversations in washington is i talk about when we have political. conversations in washington is the amnesia _ conversations in washington is the amnesia of— conversations in washington is the amnesia of the _ conversations in washington is the amnesia of the american - conversations in washington is thel amnesia of the american electorate was that— amnesia of the american electorate was that we — amnesia of the american electorate was that we forget _ amnesia of the american electorate was that we forget where _ amnesia of the american electorate was that we forget where we - amnesia of the american electorate was that we forget where we have i was that we forget where we have been _ was that we forget where we have been and — was that we forget where we have been and how _ was that we forget where we have been and how bad _ was that we forget where we have been and how bad it _ was that we forget where we have been and how bad it is _ was that we forget where we have been and how bad it is been - was that we forget where we have | been and how bad it is been under previous— been and how bad it is been under previous demonstrations - been and how bad it is been under previous demonstrations and i been and how bad it is been under previous demonstrations and talkl previous demonstrations and talk about— previous demonstrations and talk about pain — previous demonstrations and talk about pain at _ previous demonstrations and talk about pain at the _ previous demonstrations and talk about pain at the pump, - previous demonstrations and talk about pain at the pump, gas- previous demonstrations and talk. about pain at the pump, gas prices for example — about pain at the pump, gas prices for example. but _ about pain at the pump, gas prices for example. but we _ about pain at the pump, gas prices for example. but we saw _ about pain at the pump, gas prices for example. but we saw so - about pain at the pump, gas prices for example. but we saw so far- about pain at the pump, gas pricesl for example. but we saw so far this year was _ for example. but we saw so far this year was record _ for example. but we saw so far this year was record highs _ for example. but we saw so far this year was record highs and - for example. but we saw so far this year was record highs and stuff you| year was record highs and stuff you cannot— year was record highs and stuff you cannot sleep — year was record highs and stuff you cannot sleep -- _ year was record highs and stuff you cannot sleep —— sweep _ year was record highs and stuff you cannot sleep —— sweep under- year was record highs and stuff you cannot sleep —— sweep under the i year was record highs and stuff you i cannot sleep —— sweep under the rug but despite the — cannot sleep —— sweep under the rug but despite the administration - cannot sleep —— sweep under the rug but despite the administration path i but despite the administration path and best— but despite the administration path and best attempt _ but despite the administration path and best attempt to _ but despite the administration path and best attempt to really - but despite the administration path| and best attempt to really decrease the inflationary— and best attempt to really decrease
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the inflationary pressures _ and best attempt to really decrease the inflationary pressures on - and best attempt to really decrease the inflationary pressures on the i the inflationary pressures on the american — the inflationary pressures on the american consumer, _ the inflationary pressures on the american consumer, whether. the inflationary pressures on the | american consumer, whether it's the inflationary pressures on the i american consumer, whether it's on the grocery— american consumer, whether it's on the grocery store _ american consumer, whether it's on the grocery store shelf— american consumer, whether it's on the grocery store shelf or _ american consumer, whether it's on the grocery store shelf or like - american consumer, whether it's on the grocery store shelf or like i- the grocery store shelf or like i said the — the grocery store shelf or like i said the gas— the grocery store shelf or like i said the gas pump, _ the grocery store shelf or like i said the gas pump, nothing i the grocery store shelf or like i| said the gas pump, nothing has seemed — said the gas pump, nothing has seemed to _ said the gas pump, nothing has seemed to stick _ said the gas pump, nothing has seemed to stick and _ said the gas pump, nothing has seemed to stick and i _ said the gas pump, nothing has seemed to stick and i think- said the gas pump, nothing has seemed to stick and i think it. said the gas pump, nothing has| seemed to stick and i think it all goes _ seemed to stick and i think it all goes back— seemed to stick and i think it all goes back to _ seemed to stick and i think it all goes back to the _ seemed to stick and i think it all goes back to the original- seemed to stick and i think it all. goes back to the original problem for me _ goes back to the original problem for me that— goes back to the original problem for me. thatjerome _ goes back to the original problem for me. thatjerome powell, - goes back to the original problem for me. thatjerome powell, ouri goes back to the original problem i for me. thatjerome powell, our fed chair, _ for me. thatjerome powell, our fed chair, should've _ for me. thatjerome powell, our fed chair, should've been _ for me. thatjerome powell, our fed chair, should've been they— for me. thatjerome powell, our fed chair, should've been they kept - chair, should've been they kept printing — chair, should've been they kept printing money— chair, should've been they kept printing money and _ chair, should've been they kept printing money and that - chair, should've been they kept printing money and that was i chair, should've been they kept| printing money and that was my problem — printing money and that was my problem and _ printing money and that was my problem and we _ printing money and that was my problem and we saw _ printing money and that was my problem and we saw all - printing money and that was my| problem and we saw all summer printing money and that was my - problem and we saw all summer what was happening — problem and we saw all summer what was happening. wages— problem and we saw all summer what was happening. wages were - problem and we saw all summer what was happening. wages were falling, i was happening. wages were falling, discontent— was happening. wages were falling, discontent going _ was happening. wages were falling, discontent going amongst _ was happening. wages were falling, discontent going amongst the - discontent going amongst the american _ discontent going amongst the american workers _ discontent going amongst the american workers and - discontent going amongst the american workers and this - discontent going amongst the american workers and this all| discontent going amongst the . american workers and this all to discontent going amongst the - american workers and this all to do with sort— american workers and this all to do with sort of— american workers and this all to do with sort of how _ american workers and this all to do with sort of how our _ american workers and this all to do with sort of how our labour- american workers and this all to dol with sort of how our labour segment realty— with sort of how our labour segment realty functions _ with sort of how our labour segment really functions and _ with sort of how our labour segment really functions and how _ with sort of how our labour segment really functions and how they - with sort of how our labour segment really functions and how they feel i really functions and how they feel about _ really functions and how they feel about work. — really functions and how they feel about work, that _ really functions and how they feel about work, that returned - really functions and how they feel about work, that returned to - really functions and how they feel| about work, that returned to work post-pandemic— about work, that returned to work post—pandemic and _ about work, that returned to work post—pandemic and again - about work, that returned to work post—pandemic and again the - about work, that returned to work| post—pandemic and again the price about work, that returned to work i post—pandemic and again the price of doing _ post—pandemic and again the price of doing work— post—pandemic and again the price of doing work and — post—pandemic and again the price of doing work and getting _ post—pandemic and again the price of doing work and getting to _ post—pandemic and again the price of doing work and getting to work. - post—pandemic and again the price of doing work and getting to work. so . doing work and getting to work. so again— doing work and getting to work. so again the _ doing work and getting to work. so again the best _ doing work and getting to work. so again the best efforts _ doing work and getting to work. so again the best efforts have - doing work and getting to work. so again the best efforts have really l again the best efforts have really fatten _ again the best efforts have really fatten fiat — again the best efforts have really fallen flat over _ again the best efforts have really fallen flat over here, _ again the best efforts have really fallen flat over here, and - again the best efforts have really fallen flat over here, and so - again the best efforts have really fallen flat over here, and so i'm. fallen flat over here, and so i'm not surprised _ fallen flat over here, and so i'm not surprised to _ fallen flat over here, and so i'm not surprised to see _ fallen flat over here, and so i'm not surprised to see these - fallen flat over here, and so i'm - not surprised to see these numbers and i_ not surprised to see these numbers and i think— not surprised to see these numbers and i think anything _ not surprised to see these numbers and i think anything is— not surprised to see these numbers and i think anything is possible - and i think anything is possible when _ and i think anything is possible when we — and i think anything is possible when we talk— and i think anything is possible when we talk about _ and i think anything is possible when we talk about the - and i think anything is possible i when we talk about the midterm elections — when we talk about the midterm elections happening _ when we talk about the midterm elections happening here. - when we talk about the midterm i elections happening here. they're coming _ elections happening here. they're coming up — elections happening here. they're coming up in _ elections happening here. they're coming up in about— elections happening here. they're coming up in about a _ elections happening here. they're coming up in about a month's - elections happening here. they'rel coming up in about a month's time over here — coming up in about a month's time over here and _ coming up in about a month's time over here and i_ coming up in about a month's time over here and i think— coming up in about a month's time over here and i think things - coming up in about a month's time over here and i think things can- over here and i think things can change — over here and i think things can change around _ over here and i think things can change around them _ over here and i think things can change around them because . over here and i think things can change around them because iti over here and i think things can- change around them because it will depend _ change around them because it will depend on — change around them because it will depend on more _ change around them because it will depend on more actions the - depend on more actions the administration _ depend on more actions the administration takes - depend on more actions the administration takes to - depend on more actions the i administration takes to again depend on more actions the - administration takes to again try to alleviate _ administration takes to again try to alleviate some _ administration takes to again try to alleviate some of— administration takes to again try to alleviate some of the _ administration takes to again try to alleviate some of the pressures - administration takes to again try to alleviate some of the pressures ofi alleviate some of the pressures of inflation, — alleviate some of the pressures of inflation, but— alleviate some of the pressures of inflation, but globally _ alleviate some of the pressures of inflation, but globally that - alleviate some of the pressures of inflation, but globally that is - inflation, but globally that is
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happening _ inflation, but globally that is happening itrite— inflation, but globally that is happening-— inflation, but globally that is haueninur , ,.,, inflation, but globally that is hauenin~.~ , ,.,, happening. we 'ust praise the fed were auoin happening. we just praise the fed were going faster— happening. we just praise the fed were going faster and _ happening. we just praise the fed were going faster and harder - happening. we just praise the fed were going faster and harder than | were going faster and harder than the bank of angling that we give and we taketh away. but if the nature of economics. stephanie, lily to see you and come back soon and we love talking to you and getting your expertise, thank you.- talking to you and getting your expertise, thank you. good to see ou. norway, now the biggest supplier of gas to europe, will beef up security around its oil installations after detecting recent drone activity around their oil platforms in norwegian waters. since monday, large amounts of natural gas have been pouring into the baltic sea through three separate leaks on the two nord stream pipelines that deliver russian gas to europe. seismologists say they have recorded explosions in swedish and danish waters. here's the danish foreign minister. this is an attack in international waters on our european energy
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infrastructure, and it's something we take very seriously. so now we are establishing the facts, and we will come with a common response in europe. the timing is interesting. a new gas pipeline between norway and poland was inaugurated on tuesday. it runs very close to the nord stream 2 pipeline. the norwegian prime minister says we could be entering a new phase of hybrid warfare in europe in an attempt to undermine support for ukraine. morten frisch is a norwegian energy consultant based in the uk. welcome to the programme. what would we know about the activity or in the norwegian oil platforms? first we know about the activity or in the norwegian oil platforms?— norwegian oil platforms? first of all, thank norwegian oil platforms? first of all. thank you — norwegian oil platforms? first of all, thank you for _ norwegian oil platforms? first of all, thank you for having - norwegian oil platforms? first of all, thank you for having me - norwegian oil platforms? first of. all, thank you for having me posted there _ all, thank you for having me posted there has— all, thank you for having me posted there has in— all, thank you for having me posted there has in september been five reported — there has in september been five reported incidents of drones around the norwegian oil and gas platforms in the _ the norwegian oil and gas platforms in the sort _ the norwegian oil and gas platforms in the sort of middle to upper part of the _ in the sort of middle to upper part of the north sea. for example, the inner— of the north sea. for example, the inner crock— of the north sea. for example, the inner crock field north of the area of the _ inner crock field north of the area of the norwegian caught in a shell. one of— of the norwegian caught in a shell. one of these drones was described as a large _
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one of these drones was described as a large vehicle, a large long—range vehicte~ _ a large vehicle, a large long—range vehicle we — a large vehicle, a large long—range vehicle. we do not know where these drones— vehicle. we do not know where these drones have — vehicle. we do not know where these drones have come from yet. i understand that it is being investigated by the norwegian police and also _ investigated by the norwegian police and also the military. on the security— and also the military. on the security side, it's my understanding that security arrangements were beefed _ that security arrangements were beefed up on the installations already— beefed up on the installations already in february this year at the time of— already in february this year at the time of the — already in february this year at the time of the russian invasion of ukraine — time of the russian invasion of ukraine. this has now been further enhanced _ ukraine. this has now been further enhanced in — ukraine. this has now been further enhanced in septemberand enhanced in september and particularly enhanced in septemberand particularly this week after the explosions on the nord stream 1 and two platforms in the baltic sea. you will understand _ two platforms in the baltic sea. gm, will understand why and looking at the pictures of the gas coming out of the baltic sea. if norwegian gas was targeted, norwegian oil and gas, how serious would that be for your? well, up until this year, norway was
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supplying _ well, up until this year, norway was supplying 25% of europe's gas appties~ — supplying 25% of europe's gas applies. today, this number is creeping — applies. today, this number is creeping up because we are taking actions _ creeping up because we are taking actions to— creeping up because we are taking actions to increase production as much _ actions to increase production as much as— actions to increase production as much as possible. pipeline systems to the _ much as possible. pipeline systems to the continent are being operated at near— to the continent are being operated at near capacity and above. here in the uk, _ at near capacity and above. here in the uk, we— at near capacity and above. here in the uk, we normally produce at full capacity— the uk, we normally produce at full capacity somewhat less in scotland. but norway's gas supply is becoming increasingly critical europe. we are actually— increasingly critical europe. we are actually currently the second largest — actually currently the second largest gas source into europe. the largest— largest gas source into europe. the largest is— largest gas source into europe. the largest is lng imports, which is now more _ largest is lng imports, which is now more than _ largest is lng imports, which is now more than 40% of gas demand. gm, more than 4096 of gas demand. gm, cominu on more than 4096 of gas demand. gm, coming on this- _ more than 4096 of gas demand. gm, coming on this. for— more than 40% of gas demand.
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different level with the prime minister there's a saying it could be hybrid warfare. talking about oil and gas installations out of the theatre of war being attacked and our energy and now a focus for the kremlin, although to deny that they were anything to do with the attacks on the nord stream pipelines, we are into a whole new ball game, are we not? i into a whole new ball game, are we not? ~ . into a whole new ball game, are we not? ~' ., ., into a whole new ball game, are we not? ~' . ., , ., ., not? i think we are and you are riaht not? i think we are and you are right to draw — not? i think we are and you are right to draw those _ not? i think we are and you are right to draw those wider - right to draw those wider comparisons. vladimir putin's accidents and comments in recent times remind me of emperor hirohito on the dayjapan times remind me of emperor hirohito on the day japan surrendered times remind me of emperor hirohito on the dayjapan surrendered in world war ii when he announced to the nation the war has developed, but not necessarily to japan's advantage. and that's what appears to be happening to vladimir putin. he is increasingly lashing out, and this is really troubling because anyone who has watched, for example, the two thieves in yemen striking oil sites in the united arab emirates using drones knows that
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drones have the capability and it would be a very severe escalation if there was a confirmed even attempt by the russian state or any of its surrogates to physically damage european infrastructure. i surrogates to physically damage european infrastructure. i mean, putin knows _ european infrastructure. i mean, putin knows energy _ european infrastructure. i mean, putin knows energy crises - european infrastructure. i mean, putin knows energy crises play . european infrastructure. i mean, | putin knows energy crises play to his advantage and we know he will do this even though they denied they had to do with anything in the baltic sea because another were burning eight billion pounds of gas in the finnish border every day to derive europe from having it, so they have form on this. you derive europe from having it, so they have form on this. you know, he said that russia _ they have form on this. you know, he said that russia ever _ they have form on this. you know, he said that russia ever talks _ they have form on this. you know, he said that russia ever talks out - they have form on this. you know, he said that russia ever talks out of- said that russia ever talks out of both sides — said that russia ever talks out of both sides of _ said that russia ever talks out of both sides of his _ said that russia ever talks out of both sides of his mouth, - said that russia ever talks out of both sides of his mouth, russial said that russia ever talks out of. both sides of his mouth, russia just straight _ both sides of his mouth, russia just straight up — both sides of his mouth, russia just straight up iives _ both sides of his mouth, russia just straight up lives. we _ both sides of his mouth, russia just straight up lives. we hear— both sides of his mouth, russia just straight up lives. we hear from - both sides of his mouth, russia just straight up lives. we hear from the| straight up lives. we hear from the kremtin— straight up lives. we hear from the kremlin who — straight up lives. we hear from the kremlin who says _ straight up lives. we hear from the kremlin who says the _ straight up lives. we hear from the kremlin who says the us _ straight up lives. we hear from the . kremlin who says the us government was behind _ kremlin who says the us government was behind this, _ kremlin who says the us government was behind this, they— kremlin who says the us government was behind this, they are _ kremlin who says the us government was behind this, they are going - kremlin who says the us government was behind this, they are going to. was behind this, they are going to try to _ was behind this, they are going to try to do _ was behind this, they are going to try to do everything _ was behind this, they are going to try to do everything they- was behind this, they are going to try to do everything they can - try to do everything they can because _ try to do everything they can because they _ try to do everything they can because they are _ try to do everything they can because they are losing - try to do everything they cani because they are losing their invasion— because they are losing their invasion in— because they are losing their invasion in ukraine, - because they are losing their invasion in ukraine, losing. because they are losing their. invasion in ukraine, losing the because they are losing their- invasion in ukraine, losing the war they created — invasion in ukraine, losing the war they created in _ invasion in ukraine, losing the war they created in ukraine. _ invasion in ukraine, losing the war they created in ukraine. and - invasion in ukraine, losing the war they created in ukraine. and looki they created in ukraine. and look this is— they created in ukraine. and look this is the — they created in ukraine. and look this is the reality _ they created in ukraine. and look this is the reality here _ they created in ukraine. and look this is the reality here is- they created in ukraine. and look this is the reality here is that - they created in ukraine. and look this is the reality here is that usi this is the reality here is that us intelligence _ this is the reality here is that us intelligence officials _ this is the reality here is that us intelligence officials warned - this is the reality here is that us intelligence officials warned the |
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intelligence officials warned the german — intelligence officials warned the german government _ intelligence officials warned the german government of - intelligence officials warned the german government of this - intelligence officials warned the . german government of this weeks intelligence officials warned the - german government of this weeks ago of these _ german government of this weeks ago of these possible — german government of this weeks ago of these possible attacks _ german government of this weeks ago of these possible attacks on _ german government of this weeks ago of these possible attacks on the - of these possible attacks on the pipetines, — of these possible attacks on the pipelines. and _ of these possible attacks on the pipelines, and i'm— of these possible attacks on the pipelines, and i'm seeing- of these possible attacks on the pipelines, and i'm seeing these| pipelines, and i'm seeing these photos— pipelines, and i'm seeing these photos come _ pipelines, and i'm seeing these photos come out _ pipelines, and i'm seeing these photos come out from - pipelines, and i'm seeing these photos come out from the - pipelines, and i'm seeing these . photos come out from the swedish coastguard — photos come out from the swedish coastguard and _ photos come out from the swedish coastguard and i'm _ photos come out from the swedish coastguard and i'm just— photos come out from the swedish coastguard and i'm just shocked. l coastguard and i'm just shocked. what _ coastguard and i'm just shocked. what are — coastguard and i'm just shocked. what are we _ coastguard and i'm just shocked. what are we here _ coastguard and i'm just shocked. what are we here to _ coastguard and i'm just shocked. what are we here to think - coastguard and i'm just shocked. what are we here to think of - what are we here to think of this? is it what are we here to think of this? is it some — what are we here to think of this? is it some sort— what are we here to think of this? is it some sort of— what are we here to think of this? is it some sort of plan? _ what are we here to think of this? is it some sort of plan? was- what are we here to think of this? is it some sort of plan? was there what are we here to think of this? i is it some sort of plan? was there a master— is it some sort of plan? was there a master plan? — is it some sort of plan? was there a master plan? there _ is it some sort of plan? was there a master plan? there are _ is it some sort of plan? was there a master plan? there are conspiracy. master plan? there are conspiracy theorists _ master plan? there are conspiracy theorists here _ master plan? there are conspiracy theorists here and _ master plan? there are conspiracy theorists here and i'm _ master plan? there are conspiracy theorists here and i'm not - master plan? there are conspiracy theorists here and i'm notjust- theorists here and i'm notjust taiking — theorists here and i'm notjust talking about _ theorists here and i'm notjust talking about fringe _ theorists here and i'm notjust talking about fringe actors - theorists here and i'm notjust talking about fringe actors are i talking about fringe actors are people — talking about fringe actors are peopte sitting _ talking about fringe actors are people sitting in _ talking about fringe actors are people sitting in government. talking about fringe actors are . people sitting in government who actually— people sitting in government who actually have _ people sitting in government who actually have the _ people sitting in government who actually have the sense _ people sitting in government who actually have the sense it - people sitting in government who actually have the sense it may . people sitting in government whol actually have the sense it may this was an— actually have the sense it may this was an overrated _ actually have the sense it may this was an overrated attack _ actually have the sense it may this was an overrated attack of - actually have the sense it may this was an overrated attack of some . actually have the sense it may this i was an overrated attack of some sort and somehow— was an overrated attack of some sort and somehow coordinated _ was an overrated attack of some sort and somehow coordinated with - was an overrated attack of some sort and somehow coordinated with our . and somehow coordinated with our allies— and somehow coordinated with our allies to _ and somehow coordinated with our allies to somehow, _ and somehow coordinated with our allies to somehow, i _ and somehow coordinated with our allies to somehow, i don't - and somehow coordinated with our allies to somehow, i don't know, l and somehow coordinated with our l allies to somehow, i don't know, not to play— allies to somehow, i don't know, not to play into _ allies to somehow, i don't know, not to play into his— allies to somehow, i don't know, not to play into his hands— allies to somehow, i don't know, not to play into his hands but there - 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technical director for that committee simply more,. stay with us. hello. yesterday was a day of sunshine and showers but today a pretty similar theme with more sunshine if fewer showers. still quite a cluster around first thing on thursday on the tail end of this with a front thatis the tail end of this with a front that is sliding toward the continent but actually a brief finger of high pressure is going to try and settle things down for this thursday. there are some showers to start the day across the southwest of england and pembrokeshire, god in the morning but wins off the north sea will feed scattered showers into northern england, the north midlands and perhaps north and east anglia to the internet with a few across scotland. predominantly dry and sunny and
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temperatures of a degree or so on wednesday up to 17. through the evening and overnight it's going to turn quite chilly across eastern areas of england with winds falling light and the skies clear. different picture towards northwest with wins getting up in cloud coming in and rain by the end of the night for northern ireland and west of scotland so ten or ii overnight lows here and perhaps the odd three across the southeast of england. friday dominated by low pressure and which of the day fine with some sunshine across central and eastern england but went towards the northwest and this whole system will swing its way through during the course of the day, brighter it was some showers in the afternoon for scotland and northern ireland with temperatures dipping behind with the system yet again and then if they went into the day across eastern england. that whole front pushes away quite quickly and in time for the week and we are left with low pressure, yes i'm a bit more in the way of sunny intervals again we showers just way of sunny intervals again we showersjust a way of sunny intervals again we showers just a chance of some more persistent ranked running into the south of the uk later on on
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saturday. so in comparison to friday, well, yes quite breezy on saturday but we should not cease much light around and outbreaks will come and go rather than being persistent aside potentially this area pushing into southern england later on in the day on saturday. that could on overnight saturday into the early part of sunday but sunday daytime of the two days perhaps the one offering up less in the way of some showers but still quiet and edible westerly breeze with the greatest chance of getting caught in the rank will be a law many of our west coast but in the east with some shelter, pretty pleasant again with temperatures getting up into the mid teens.
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. the biggest storm ever to hit the west coast of florida is making landfall this hour. hurricane ian is bringing sustained winds of over 150 mph, and could dump over a foot of water. tourist attractions like disney world and sea world are closing. these world and sea world are closing. are life pictures, storm these are life pictures, a record storm surge is expected as a hurricane ian lands in florida. this is tampa. the january 6th committee is soon to deliver its verdict on the capitol hill riots, and the links there may have been to the white house. about the evidence uncovered.
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and denmark will wear "toned down" jerseys for the world cup as a form of protest against qatar's human rights record — not the only team prepared to take a stand. welcome back. hurricane ian is making landfall this hour, with the eye passing close to fort myers, south of tampa, and punta gorda. meteorologists says it could be the strongest storm to ever make landfall on the west coast of the peninsula, with wind speeds over 150 mph — plenty strong enough to move suspension bridges like this one. but it's the storm surge and the flooding that worries them most. this is key west, at the tip of the peninsular. hurricane charley, which hit the same area in 2004, which was a category four hurricane, brought 6—7 feet of storm surge. this could be twice as high. and it is moving far slower than charley. just look how big it is. you can see the lightening around the eye—wall,
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and the enormous amount of rain it is carrying. the storm is moving at around smph much slower than charley, so this is probably going to sit over the top of these area until lunchtime tomorrow, which risks localised flooding from one direction and storm surge from the other. we are joined by anthony reynes, senior meteorologist at the national hurricane centre, in miami. thank you very much for being with us, i'm sure it's a very busy time. a storm as big as this hits landfall, things can change quite rapidly. so what are you seeing in the forecast over your shoulder? well as we can see, ian is not over by any means. it's already making landfall, moving a bit over land. it is such a large storm and has such a healthy structure that it'll take time it finally becomes weaker as it moves over land. we can see that
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most people in the area of port charlotte, all the way down to fort myers — this portion of the coast of western florida is now dealing with the absolute worst case scenario, which is the i wall of a powerful category four hurricane just barreling through the area with winds of 155 mph and probably an historic storm surge like we haven't seenin historic storm surge like we haven't seen in the west coast of florida in many, many years. find seen in the west coast of florida in many. many years— seen in the west coast of florida in many, many years. and that's really the oint, many, many years. and that's really the point, because _ many, many years. and that's really the point, because we _ many, many years. and that's really the point, because we talked - many, many years. and that's really the point, because we talked about| the point, because we talked about charlie, which is the reference point here — charlie was a windstorm, this is a search storm, a flood storm because of the rain it's carrying. how will that impact the lower lying areas around the coast? that's a good question, if you compare charlotte with ian, it's
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uneven, it's not a fair comparison because charlie was tiny compared to ian. it was a compact storm, the i was very small, some people have actually referred to charlie as a giant tornado, it was really small. it had winds of category four hurricane — but in terms of the area covered, it was much smaller when you compare to ian, which is dramatically larger, covering a huge swathe of ocean before it made landfall. so that gave this storm time enough to build up those cds. and as the storm approached the coastline, also the angle at which it approached the coast was much more favourable to build those oceans, those seas and push them over land, which is what we are seeing now. and if we want to talk numbers, the estimates, for ian to
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produce anything between 12—18 feet of storm surge in that portion between englewood, port charlotte, all the way down to fort myers and bonita beach — from the earlier images we are seeing, we are actually corroborating these kinds of impacts because on the way down in naples, we are already seeing video footage of houses and structures of water up to the first levels of many structures — and that's naples down here, where the storm surge is nowhere near the numbers we are expecting in the portion that is getting hit. band portion that is getting hit. and 'ust so i portion that is getting hit. and just so i understand this, we've got huge seas coming in as it pushes the sea on land, up to 12 feet, and presumably the front end of the
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hurricane dumping all this rainwater is coming down the rivers, fresh water that will meet presumably in some of these areas. water that will meet presumably in some of these areas.— some of these areas. absolutely, talkin: of some of these areas. absolutely, talking of rainfall, _ some of these areas. absolutely, talking of rainfall, early - some of these areas. absolutely, | talking of rainfall, early estimates have been adjusted, probably greater numbers than the ones i'm talking about here. but from earlier analysis, we were talking about anything from 10—15 inches, probably upwards of 20 inches in this red and purple areas... upwards of 20 inches in this red and purple areas- - -_ purple areas... nearly two feet of rain in 12 hours' _ purple areas... nearly two feet of rain in 12 hours' time, _ purple areas... nearly two feet of rain in 12 hours' time, in - purple areas... nearly two feet of rain in 12 hours' time, in a - purple areas... nearly two feet of rain in 12 hours' time, in a short. rain in 12 hours' time, in a short period of time?— rain in 12 hours' time, in a short eriodoftime? , ,, , , period of time? may be less because, as the storm — period of time? may be less because, as the storm l— period of time? may be less because, as the storm i moves, _ period of time? may be less because, as the storm i moves, that's - period of time? may be less because, as the storm i moves, that's where i as the storm i moves, that's where it has the most concentrated brand bands —— rain bands. so that's what you see here, basically a foot of
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water, yes. you see here, basically a foot of water. yes-— you see here, basically a foot of water, es. , , , , ., water, yes. just very quickly before i let ou water, yes. just very quickly before i let you go. _ water, yes. just very quickly before i let you go. one — water, yes. just very quickly before i let you go, one of— water, yes. just very quickly before i let you go, one of the _ water, yes. just very quickly before i let you go, one of the concerns i i let you go, one of the concerns was that as this work has shifted, we've been watching it for several days and it was sort of heading towards tampa, but then it moved further south. towards tampa, but then it moved furthersouth. do towards tampa, but then it moved further south. do you think that gave people enough time to get out, or is the concern that a lot of people are being trapped because the forecast change so rapidly? itrefoil. forecast change so rapidly? well, the forecast _ forecast change so rapidly? well, the forecast in _ forecast change so rapidly? well, the forecast in terms _ forecast change so rapidly? well, the forecast in terms of _ forecast change so rapidly? all the forecast in terms of expected landfall was being adjusted. but remember that the forecast is actually a cone — it's not a point, so when the forecast was still for the storm to approach the west coast of florida two days ago, the cone actually covered most of this area, including tampa all the way down to fort myers. i know we told people not to just focus on one point or the middle of the forecast, look at that cone. they have to get ready,
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and we really hope that people, especially in this portion there where the i wall is hitting, those people actually evacuated and moved to a much more secure place — because the damage we are seeing and expecting, it will take days until we have a clear picture what's happening there, but it will be catastrophic. happening there, but it will be catastrophic.— happening there, but it will be catastrohic. ,, ., ,, happening there, but it will be catastrohic. , , ., ,, , ., catastrophic. goodness me. thank you ve much catastrophic. goodness me. thank you very much indeed. _ there 5000 national guard soldiers in position, but there's nothing you can do, you're on your own. 2.5 million people _ can do, you're on your own. 25; million people in southwest florida and formed they ought to evacuate. i hope those americans under evacuation orders from their governor chose to go inland because of course, weekend winds are happening inland. this is serious
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destruction we will potentially see here on the gulf coast of florida. this is nojoke, tampa is a huge city, if you know the tampa bay area, if you're on social media, check out those images. tampa bay is dried up, that's 15 feet of water they are dried up. so we know a catastrophic weather event like this will just catastrophic weather event like this willjust have regressions that are beyond what will happen when this hurricane makes landfall. the ceo of the state is governor ron desantis, he's enjoyed some partisan political games lately, he's said that the presidentjoe biden, a democrat, does not want to work with him. the funniest, craziest thing he's had to do in the past 2a hours is informed floridians that they ought to listen to local leaders, agencies, these very same people that he told them not to listen to during covid. it's a bizarre situation.— not to listen to during covid. it's a bizarre situation. that's a really interesting point _ a bizarre situation. that's a really interesting point as _ a bizarre situation. that's a really interesting point as we _ a bizarre situation. that's a really interesting point as we head - a bizarre situation. that's a really interesting point as we head into|
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interesting point as we head into the midterms, he's under pressure in that governors race. how he acts in the next 24—48 hours might spell his future it certainly can. this is his first major test. all his tests so far have been about how can he criticise biden? how can he criticise biden? how can he establish himself from trump? and he shipped _ establish himself from trump? and he shipped migrants from the south to northern— shipped migrants from the south to northern states to create wedge issues? — northern states to create wedge issues? this is his first real life, life or— issues? this is his first real life, life or death test. and if he fails this, _ life or death test. and if he fails this, it — life or death test. and if he fails this, it ends any real hope of him becoming — this, it ends any real hope of him becoming the us's commander—in—chief in the _ becoming the us's commander—in—chief in the next _ becoming the us's commander—in—chief in the next presidential election. he can _ in the next presidential election. he can certainly mix it, but can he lead? that will be tested in the next 24—48 hours. we believe that there. in light of events in florida, the january 6th committee postponed a much—anticipated public hearing that was scheduled for today. in its last scheduled public hearing on 21 july, which played out on prime—time in america, the lawmakers laid out step—by—step the 187 minutes
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between trump's rally at the ellipse and the video tweet which eventually came, in which he grudgingly told his supporters to "go home". witness after witness testified how he told his supporters to march on the capitol, despite being told that some of them were armed — and then, back at the white house, watched the attack unfold on tv from his dining room, doing nothing, refusing the pleas that came in from congress, from fox news to call off the mob. the former republican congressman denver riggleman was, until april, a senior technical adviser to the january 6th committee. yesterday he published his own account of what happened that day. his new book is called "the breach: the untold story of the investigation into january 6th". denver, welcome back to the programme. there's been a lot written about january 6th, what perspective does your book give us that we may not have seen before?
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when you look at the untold story, the untold — when you look at the untold story, the untold story— when you look at the untold story, the untold story to _ when you look at the untold story, the untold story to me _ when you look at the untold story, the untold story to me was- when you look at the untold story, the untold story to me was the - when you look at the untold story, i the untold story to me was the data. it's the untold story to me was the data. it's difficult — the untold story to me was the data. it's difficult to — the untold story to me was the data. it's difficult to make _ the untold story to me was the data. it's difficult to make data _ the untold story to me was the data. it's difficult to make data exciting. it's difficult to make data exciting sometimes, — it's difficult to make data exciting sometimes, but _ it's difficult to make data exciting sometimes, but in _ it's difficult to make data exciting sometimes, but in this _ it's difficult to make data exciting sometimes, but in this book- it's difficult to make data exciting sometimes, but in this book i - 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hone call found. he also flagged a nine second phone call made _ found. he also flagged a nine second phone call made from _ found. he also flagged a nine second phone call made from one _ found. he also flagged a nine second phone call made from one of - found. he also flagged a nine second phone call made from one of those l found. he also flagged a nine secondl phone call made from one of those on capitol hill that day, and the white house. we know who it was, what we don't know is who picked up the phone and who that person was speaking to. you'll have seen over the weekend adam schiff not pouring cold water on that, but he's very careful with it because they've been very meticulous about the evidence they put out so they don't get caught out. what do you say back to adam schiff about the significance of that particular call? you adam schiff about the significance of that particular call?— of that particular call? you don't know what _ of that particular call? you don't know what you _ of that particular call? you don't know what you don't _ of that particular call? you don't know what you don't know, - of that particular call? you don't know what you don't know, and | know what you don't know, and the significance — know what you don't know, and the significance of— know what you don't know, and the significance of that _ know what you don't know, and the significance of that call _ know what you don't know, and the significance of that call is _ know what you don't know, and the significance of that call is at - know what you don't know, and the significance of that call is at nine i significance of that call is at nine seconds — significance of that call is at nine seconds to— significance of that call is at nine seconds to a _ significance of that call is at nine seconds to a counterterrorism i seconds to a counterterrorism analyst — seconds to a counterterrorism analyst is— seconds to a counterterrorism analyst is a _ seconds to a counterterrorism analyst is a lifetime. - seconds to a counterterrorism analyst is a lifetime. we - seconds to a counterterrorism analyst is a lifetime. we needi seconds to a counterterrorism i analyst is a lifetime. we need to find out — analyst is a lifetime. we need to find out everything _ analyst is a lifetime. we need to find out everything on _ analyst is a lifetime. we need to find out everything on number. analyst is a lifetime. we need to l find out everything on number and the white — find out everything on number and the white house, _ find out everything on number and the white house, and _ find out everything on number and the white house, and it's- find out everything on number and the white house, and it's very- the white house, and it's very difficult — the white house, and it's very difficult to _ the white house, and it's very difficult to do. _ the white house, and it's very difficult to do. there's - the white house, and it's very difficult to do. there's some l the white house, and it's very- difficult to do. there's some issues the committee _ difficult to do. there's some issues the committee has _ difficult to do. there's some issues the committee has in _ difficult to do. there's some issues the committee has in terms - difficult to do. there's some issues the committee has in terms of- difficult to do. there's some issuesi the committee has in terms of legal authorities. — the committee has in terms of legal authorities, and _ the committee has in terms of legal authorities, and there _ the committee has in terms of legal authorities, and there is _ the committee has in terms of legal authorities, and there is issues. - authorities, and there is issues. want _ authorities, and there is issues. want to— authorities, and there is issues. want to point— authorities, and there is issues. want to point out _ authorities, and there is issues. want to point out is— authorities, and there is issues. want to point out is the - authorities, and there is issues. i want to point out is the committee has done _ want to point out is the committee has done a — want to point out is the committee has done a great _ want to point out is the committee has done a greatjob, _ want to point out is the committee has done a greatjob, but- want to point out is the committee has done a greatjob, but we - want to point out is the committee has done a greatjob, but we still. has done a greatjob, but we still don't _ has done a greatjob, but we still don't know— has done a greatjob, but we still don't know who made _ has done a greatjob, but we still don't know who made that - has done a greatjob, but we still don't know who made that call. don't know who made that call from the white _ don't know who made that call from the white house. _ don't know who made that call from the white house. i— don't know who made that call from the white house. i know— don't know who made that call from the white house. i know the - the white house. i know the committee _ the white house. i know the committee asked _ the white house. i know the committee asked for- the white house. i know the committee asked for it, - the white house. i know the committee asked for it, but| the white house. i know the i committee asked for it, but we the white house. i know the - committee asked for it, but we don't have to _ committee asked for it, but we don't have to be _ committee asked for it, but we don't have to be careful— committee asked for it, but we don't have to be careful — _ committee asked for it, but we don't have to be careful — the _ committee asked for it, but we don't have to be careful — the data - committee asked for it, but we don't have to be careful — the data is- committee asked for it, but we don't have to be careful — the data is the l have to be careful — the data is the data. _ have to be careful — the data is the data. i_ have to be careful — the data is the data. idon't— have to be careful — the data is the data, i don't have _ have to be careful — the data is the data, i don't have to— have to be careful — the data is the data, i don't have to try— have to be careful — the data is the data, i don't have to try and - have to be careful — the data is the data, i don't have to try and guess| data, i don't have to try and guess or perceive. — data, i don't have to try and guess
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or perceive. i've _ data, i don't have to try and guess or perceive, i've done _ data, idon't have to try and guess or perceive, i've done this- data, idon't have to try and guess or perceive, i've done this for- data, i don't have to try and guessi or perceive, i've done this for over 20 years. — or perceive, i've done this for over 20 years, tracking _ or perceive, i've done this for over 20 years, tracking terrorists - or perceive, i've done this for over 20 years, tracking terrorists all- 20 years, tracking terrorists all over— 20 years, tracking terrorists all over the — 20 years, tracking terrorists all over the world. _ 20 years, tracking terrorists all over the world. i've _ 20 years, tracking terrorists all over the world. i've merged . over the world. i've merged different— over the world. i've merged different types— over the world. i've merged different types of— over the world. i've merged different types of data, - over the world. i've mergedi different types of data, from satellite _ different types of data, from satellite to _ different types of data, from satellite to people _ different types of data, from satellite to people on - different types of data, from - satellite to people on telephones. all i satellite to people on telephones. all i want — satellite to people on telephones. all i want to — satellite to people on telephones. all i want to know— satellite to people on telephones. all i want to know is _ satellite to people on telephones. all i want to know is who - satellite to people on telephones. all i want to know is who made i satellite to people on telephones. i all i want to know is who made that call. all i want to know is who made that call the _ all i want to know is who made that call. the committee _ all i want to know is who made that call. the committee is— all i want to know is who made that call. the committee is trying - all i want to know is who made that call. the committee is trying to - all i want to know is who made that call. the committee is trying to get| call. the committee is trying to get that and _ call. the committee is trying to get that and there's _ call. the committee is trying to get that and there's a _ call. the committee is trying to get that and there's a lot _ call. the committee is trying to get that and there's a lot of— call. the committee is trying to get that and there's a lot of white - that and there's a lot of white house — that and there's a lot of white house calls. _ that and there's a lot of white house calls, we _ that and there's a lot of white house calls, we know- that and there's a lot of white house calls, we know the - that and there's a lot of white - house calls, we know the numbers and extensions. _ house calls, we know the numbers and extensions. but — house calls, we know the numbers and extensions, but it's— house calls, we know the numbers and extensions, but it's difficult— house calls, we know the numbers and extensions, but it's difficult to - extensions, but it's difficult to -et extensions, but it's difficult to get those _ extensions, but it's difficult to get those numbers _ extensions, but it's difficult to get those numbers because i extensions, but it's difficult to i get those numbers because they extensions, but it's difficult to - get those numbers because they are guarded. _ get those numbers because they are guarded, because _ get those numbers because they are guarded, because they— get those numbers because they are guarded, because they are - get those numbers because they are guarded, because they are white - guarded, because they are white house _ guarded, because they are white house phone _ guarded, because they are white house phone numbers, - guarded, because they are white house phone numbers, either. guarded, because they are white i house phone numbers, either land loans— house phone numbers, either land loans -- _ house phone numbers, either land loans -- land— house phone numbers, either land loans —— land lines— house phone numbers, either land loans —— land lines or— house phone numbers, either land loans —— land lines or cell- house phone numbers, either land loans —— land lines or cell phones. | loans —— land lines or cell phones. remember. — loans —— land lines or cell phones. remember, the— loans —— land lines or cell phones. remember, the white _ loans —— land lines or cell phones. remember, the white house - loans —— land lines or cell phones. i remember, the white house called loans —— land lines or cell phones. - remember, the white house called the rioters. _ remember, the white house called the rioters. not _ remember, the white house called the rioters. not the — remember, the white house called the rioters, not the other— remember, the white house called the rioters, not the other way— remember, the white house called the rioters, not the other way around. - rioters, not the other way around. so why— rioters, not the other way around. so why is— rioters, not the other way around. so why is a — rioters, not the other way around. so why is a white _ rioters, not the other way around. so why is a white house _ rioters, not the other way around. so why is a white house desk - rioters, not the other way around. i so why is a white house desk phone calling _ so why is a white house desk phone calling a _ so why is a white house desk phone calling a riot— so why is a white house desk phone calling a riot or's _ so why is a white house desk phone calling a riot or's cell— so why is a white house desk phone calling a riot or's cell phone - calling a riot or's cell phone during the _ calling a riot or's cell phone during the insurrection? - calling a riot or's cell phone during the insurrection? to| calling a riot or's cell phone - during the insurrection? to me, you can see _ during the insurrection? to me, you can see that— during the insurrection? to me, you can see that person _ during the insurrection? to me, you can see that person and _ during the insurrection? to me, you can see that person and what - during the insurrection? to me, you can see that person and what they. can see that person and what they are doing — can see that person and what they are doing is — can see that person and what they are doing is get _ can see that person and what they are doing is get their— can see that person and what they are doing is get their call- can see that person and what they are doing is get their call recordsi are doing is get their call records and find — are doing is get their call records and find out _ are doing is get their call records and find out the _ are doing is get their call records and find out the other— are doing is get their call records. and find out the other connections they have — and find out the other connections they have and _ and find out the other connections they have. and that _ and find out the other connections they have. and that is— and find out the other connections they have. and that is very - and find out the other connectionsi they have. and that is very helpful. a lot of this evidence has been laid out through the various hearings that the committee has had. are you more convinced about the links between the rioters and the white house then you were before this
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process started? i’m house then you were before this process started?— process started? i'm no more surprised. — process started? i'm no more surprised. no — process started? i'm no more surprised, no more _ process started? i'm no more surprised, no more convinced process started? i'm no more - surprised, no more convinced that it's important because this is the reality — the committee in its public hearings laid out so many astounding facts. so a call coming from within the house, or to the house, meaning the white house, is just not surprising to me, because we learned through the hearings that took place beforehand that there has been supposed coordination — not just oppose it, but we've seen how that's been drawn out, and we are in a very moment where it's just so important that former members of congress, current members of congress, current members of congress speak out. and i want to thank congress recommend for putting country over party, it is very obvious that his strong background in serving our country led to that —— congress regal men. it's important people see the facts are what they are and know that this work is so important. the reality is it's back—to—school season here in
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the us, american kids are back in school— it reminds me that we need these hearings, we needed this hearing today, of course it's been postponed, to remind the american people what is so important. because it feels like it was a long summer and we forgot a lot of things. but those things were really important things that should bear on our mind. of course the committee will issue of course the committee will issue their report until after the midterm elections, and it is what it is. but we need to communicate to each other as americans why this is so important, why it was so bombastic that this is the first time our seat of power, at the capitol was attacking over 200 years. last time this happened was the british attacked us in august 181a... irate attacked us in august 1814... we didn't have _ attacked us in august 1814... we didn't have the data then though. laughter denver would do a good job there. what about the people who would give evidence on this? a lot of people
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are surprised by how he was treated by the president and how they collect —— how close he came that day, mike pentz has refused to give evidence. let's remind ourselves what the secret service was going through that day. this was a video played at an earlier hearing. denver, what could vice president mike pentz offer at this stage if you gave evidence? he mike pentz offer at this stage if you gave evidence?— mike pentz offer at this stage if you gave evidence? he could offer what was happening _ you gave evidence? he could offer what was happening around - you gave evidence? he could offer what was happening around him. i
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you gave evidence? he could offer. what was happening around him. we heard _ what was happening around him. we heard about — what was happening around him. we heard about that _ what was happening around him. we heard about that with _ what was happening around him. we heard about that with mark- what was happening around him. we heard about that with mark short, i heard about that with mark short, when he _ heard about that with mark short, when he came _ heard about that with mark short, when he came to _ heard about that with mark short, when he came to the _ heard about that with mark short, when he came to the committee. | heard about that with mark short, . when he came to the committee. but he could _ when he came to the committee. but he could add — when he came to the committee. but he could add that _ when he came to the committee. but he could add that if— when he came to the committee. but he could add that if they— when he came to the committee. but he could add that if they felt - he could add that if they felt threatened, _ he could add that if they felt threatened, why— he could add that if they felt threatened, why today? - he could add that if they felt threatened, why today? is . he could add that if they felt. threatened, why today? is not he could add that if they felt - threatened, why today? is notjust about— threatened, why today? is notjust about a _ threatened, why today? is notjust about a nine — threatened, why today? is notjust about a nine second _ threatened, why today? is notjust about a nine second phone - threatened, why today? is notjust about a nine second phone call, i about a nine second phone call, but also individuals— about a nine second phone call, but also individuals either— about a nine second phone call, but also individuals either in— about a nine second phone call, but also individuals either in the - about a nine second phone call, but also individuals either in the whitei also individuals either in the white house _ also individuals either in the white house on — also individuals either in the white house on desk— also individuals either in the white house on desk phones, _ also individuals either in the white house on desk phones, but- also individuals either in the white house on desk phones, but who i also individuals either in the white . house on desk phones, but who was actually— house on desk phones, but who was actually involved? _ house on desk phones, but who was actually involved? that's _ house on desk phones, but who was actually involved? that's what - house on desk phones, but who was actually involved? that's what the i actually involved? that's what the committee — actually involved? that's what the committee is _ actually involved? that's what the committee is doing _ actually involved? that's what the committee is doing with _ actually involved? that's what the committee is doing with those - actually involved? that's what the i committee is doing with those texts. the technical — committee is doing with those texts. the technical teams _ committee is doing with those texts. the technical teams they— committee is doing with those texts. the technical teams they have - committee is doing with those texts. the technical teams they have can i the technical teams they have can identify— the technical teams they have can identify those _ the technical teams they have can identify those texts, _ the technical teams they have can identify those texts, see - the technical teams they have can identify those texts, see who - the technical teams they have cani identify those texts, see who made them _ identify those texts, see who made them and _ identify those texts, see who made them and put — identify those texts, see who made them and put them _ identify those texts, see who made them and put them in _ identify those texts, see who madei them and put them in chronological order— them and put them in chronological order to _ them and put them in chronological order to see — them and put them in chronological order to see what _ them and put them in chronological order to see what was _ them and put them in chronological order to see what was happening i them and put them in chronological order to see what was happening ini order to see what was happening in real-time — order to see what was happening in real-time i— order to see what was happening in real—time. i know— order to see what was happening in real—time. i know they— order to see what was happening in real—time. i know they can - order to see what was happening in real—time. i know they can do - order to see what was happening in real—time. i know they can do thati real—time. i know they can do that because _ real—time. i know they can do that because of— real—time. i know they can do that because of the _ real—time. i know they can do that because of the mark _ real—time. i know they can do that because of the mark meadows - real—time. i know they can do that i because of the mark meadows texts, which _ because of the mark meadows texts, which is _ because of the mark meadows texts, which is something _ because of the mark meadows texts, which is something they _ because of the mark meadows texts, which is something they can - because of the mark meadows texts, which is something they can cross i which is something they can cross with the _ which is something they can cross with the secret _ which is something they can cross with the secret service _ which is something they can cross with the secret service tax. - which is something they can cross with the secret service tax. we i which is something they can cross i with the secret service tax. we had a vice _ with the secret service tax. we had a vice president _ with the secret service tax. we had a vice president under— with the secret service tax. we had a vice president under threat - with the secret service tax. we had a vice president under threat that i a vice president under threat that they. _ a vice president under threat that they. and — a vice president under threat that they. and we _ a vice president under threat that they. and we had _ a vice president under threat that they, and we had a _ a vice president under threat that they, and we had a president - a vice president under threat thati they, and we had a president still tweeting — they, and we had a president still tweeting about— they, and we had a president still tweeting about mike _ they, and we had a president still tweeting about mike pence - they, and we had a president still tweeting about mike pence and i they, and we had a president still. tweeting about mike pence and not giving _ tweeting about mike pence and not giving him — tweeting about mike pence and not giving him any— tweeting about mike pence and not giving him any satisfaction, - tweeting about mike pence and not giving him any satisfaction, and - giving him any satisfaction, and ashley— giving him any satisfaction, and ashley pushing _ giving him any satisfaction, and ashley pushing him _ giving him any satisfaction, and ashley pushing him to - giving him any satisfaction, and ashley pushing him to do- giving him any satisfaction, and| ashley pushing him to do things giving him any satisfaction, and - ashley pushing him to do things that really— ashley pushing him to do things that really were _ ashley pushing him to do things that really were uncontroversial - ashley pushing him to do things that really were uncontroversial —— - really were uncontroversial —— unconstitutional _ really were uncontroversial —— unconstitutional and - really were uncontroversial —— unconstitutional and throwing | really were uncontroversial —— - unconstitutional and throwing things into chaos~ — unconstitutional and throwing things into chaos. that's _ unconstitutional and throwing things into chaos. that's why— unconstitutional and throwing things into chaos. that's why data - unconstitutional and throwing things into chaos. that's why data is - unconstitutional and throwing things
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into chaos. that's why data is a - into chaos. that's why data is a super— into chaos. that's why data is a super and — into chaos. that's why data is a super and that's— into chaos. that's why data is a super and that's why _ into chaos. that's why data is a super and that's why we - into chaos. that's why data is a super and that's why we have . into chaos. that's why data is a . super and that's why we have the ability— super and that's why we have the ability to— super and that's why we have the ability to do — super and that's why we have the ability to do this. _ super and that's why we have the ability to do this.— ability to do this. data doesn't lie, it sounds _ ability to do this. data doesn't lie, it sounds like _ ability to do this. data doesn't lie, it sounds like an - ability to do this. data doesn't i lie, it sounds like an interesting book, can't wait to read it. thank you very much for coming on the programme. you very much for coming on the programme-— now it's time for the panel. this is the part of the programme where the panel choose the stories they want to talk about. we have no input into that. tonight, it isjim who will go first — jim? it's been a really difficult week, and i_ it's been a really difficult week, and i really should have picked a video— and i really should have picked a video of— and i really should have picked a video of cats or something to cheer everyone _ video of cats or something to cheer everyone up. video of cats or something to cheer everyone pp— everyone up. laughter but i picked _ everyone up. laughter but i picked a _ everyone up. laughter but i picked a different i everyone up. laughter- but i picked a different story, this is the _ but i picked a different story, this is the story— but i picked a different story, this is the story about the danish football— is the story about the danish football team who, when they go to the world _ football team who, when they go to the world cup in qatar — scotland will be _ the world cup in qatar — scotland will be there unfortunately — but when _ will be there unfortunately — but when they— will be there unfortunately — but when they go to the world cup in qatar. _ when they go to the world cup in qatar, they won't be wearing their usual— qatar, they won't be wearing their usual football tops, they'll wear these _ usual football tops, they'll wear these that you see on the screen because — these that you see on the screen because first of all, the world cup shouldn't— because first of all, the world cup shouldn't be in qatar, a country
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with— shouldn't be in qatar, a country with no— shouldn't be in qatar, a country with no football history, but so many _ with no football history, but so many of — with no football history, but so many of the workers who have died building _ many of the workers who have died building these stadiums, where health— building these stadiums, where health and safety has always been nonexistent and temperatures almost nonexistent and temperatures almost no one _ nonexistent and temperatures almost no one could survive in, and they've been _ no one could survive in, and they've been treated — no one could survive in, and they've been treated worse than animals building — been treated worse than animals building these stadiums. so fifa prevents — building these stadiums. so fifa prevents football teams from having a political— prevents football teams from having a political slogan on their top — denmark— a political slogan on their top — denmark have found a way around that. _ denmark have found a way around that. and — denmark have found a way around that, and the blacktop is in mourning for all those men, that, and the blacktop is in mourning forallthose men, many whom _ mourning forallthose men, many whom i've — mourning forallthose men, many whom i've met, that build these stadiums— whom i've met, that build these stadiums with their blood sweat and tears _ stadiums with their blood sweat and tears. ., ., i. stadiums with their blood sweat and tears. ., ., , ., ., stadiums with their blood sweat and tears. ., ., i. ., i. stadiums with their blood sweat and tears. ., ., , ., ., , ., tears. how do you mean you met them? when qatar was — tears. how do you mean you met them? when qatar was awarded _ tears. how do you mean you met them? when qatar was awarded the _ tears. how do you mean you met them? when qatar was awarded the world - when qatar was awarded the world cup, when qatar was awarded the world cup. as— when qatar was awarded the world cup. as a _ when qatar was awarded the world cup, as a football fan i thought it was wrong — cup, as a football fan i thought it was wrong. i went there through some trade unions. — was wrong. i went there through some trade unions, i went to the labour camps _ trade unions, i went to the labour camps and — trade unions, i went to the labour camps and solid genuinely what i understood to be slave labour. because — understood to be slave labour. because these migrant workers who came _ because these migrant workers who came from — because these migrant workers who
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came from india, saharan africa — when _ came from india, saharan africa — when they— came from india, saharan africa — when they arrived, they had their passports — when they arrived, they had their passports taken away from them and -iven passports taken away from them and given to _ passports taken away from them and given to their employer, they were allowed _ given to their employer, they were allowed to— given to their employer, they were allowed to move jobs or leave the country _ allowed to move jobs or leave the country because they didn't have the passport _ country because they didn't have the passport i_ country because they didn't have the passport. i met a man from kenya who had been _ passport. i met a man from kenya who had been there five years building these _ had been there five years building these football stadiums. he had given— these football stadiums. he had given his — these football stadiums. he had given his passport to his employer, his company had gone out of business. _ his company had gone out of business, the employer left the country— business, the employer left the country with his passport, and this man is— country with his passport, and this man is now— country with his passport, and this man is now stuck in qatar, citizen list. _ man is now stuck in qatar, citizen list, stateless, his family of three children will have now grown up with him as— children will have now grown up with him as a _ children will have now grown up with him as a complete stranger. he can never leave — him as a complete stranger. he can never leave qatar. so when we all roll up _ never leave qatar. so when we all roll up there with tv cameras turned up roll up there with tv cameras turned up in _ roll up there with tv cameras turned up in qatar. — roll up there with tv cameras turned up in qatar, let'sjust render that this tournament shouldn't have been there. _ this tournament shouldn't have been there. and _ this tournament shouldn't have been there, and many hundreds, if not some _ there, and many hundreds, if not some thousands of people have died building _ some thousands of people have died building that stadium.— building that stadium. really im ortant building that stadium. really important as _ building that stadium. really important as you _ building that stadium. really important as you say, - building that stadium. really important as you say, a - building that stadium. really i important as you say, a festival building that stadium. really - important as you say, a festival of football, 70 people have died building the stadiums. and it's
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important to football teams reflect that as the denmark team will do. it's a good story. and you wanted to talk about cancer? 50 it's a good story. and you wanted to talk about cancer?— talk about cancer? so there's some tood talk about cancer? so there's some good news. — talk about cancer? so there's some good news, usually _ talk about cancer? so there's some good news, usually when _ talk about cancer? so there's some good news, usually when we - talk about cancer? so there's some good news, usually when we hear i talk about cancer? so there's some i good news, usually when we hear the word cancer, it's with regret. but the american association for cancer research published a report last week where they said cancer rates — the death rates of cancer have been steadily following for the last two decades here in the us. but the good news is this is due to the prevention, diagnostic tools, with all that, we know that. but this is all that, we know that. but this is a number that i think is really important to see you, that they are now more than 18 million cancer survivors in the united states, up from three million and 1971. really good news in a time when president joe biden has pledged again that he will do his best to cure cancer, that gives us hope, and i think there's a lot.— that gives us hope, and i think
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there's a lot. weave 50 seconds left, the long-term _ there's a lot. weave 50 seconds left, the long-term trajectory i there's a lot. weave 50 seconds left, the long-term trajectory is| left, the long—term trajectory is good, the concern is reflected in figures here that the pandemic has set us back, the people aren't presenting are coming forward, early detection is going backwards. i think that was a concern during the thick of the pandemic, but from what i've seen, the data has encouraged me that americans are getting very serious again about prevention and getting out there to see their physicians down that things have opened up again, the lockdowns made things tough but i think being at home and sedentary really woke up a lot of americans to their own personal hell. —— personal health. there will be data that shows it wasn't great, but there will be a time where the pendulum swings toward prevention again. it is really important _ toward prevention again. it is really important people go get checked out, i know there's a lot of problems in the nhs and it's difficult year getting a doctors appointment, but early detection makes such a difference, it's life or death, going early and getting a doctor to have a look at you. go
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into that because there are plenty of new treatments out there. lovely to have you both on the programme this evening, we'll be back the same time tomorrow, good night. hello, thanks for tuning into our weather for the week ahead. and, as you'd expect this time of the year, it will be quite unsettled — from sunny spells and decent temperatures, to wind and rain. now, thursday is actually looking pretty decent for most of us. we're sort of in between weather systems as this weaker ridge of high pressure builds in, but a low pressure in the north atlantic will come our way — it'll arrive on friday. so here's thursday's weather forecast, and a northwesterly breeze blowing in some showers across parts of england and into wales, a few around eastern scotland, too. but there won't be many showers around, and predominantly dry weather through the day. the winds won't be too strong either. temperatures will be around 17 in glasgow, and we'll probably match that
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in liverpool and london, as well. and through the course of thursday evening, we'll see clear skies developing across most of the uk — but then, this broad area of rain sweeps into ireland and scotland. and with that slightly milder air, as well, so double figures here into early friday — whereas eastern parts of the country with the clearer skies and the lighter winds will have much colder conditions first thing now. friday overall will be a day of heavy rain and strong winds. now it will start off fairly bright across many central and eastern areas — you can see the clear weather here, whereas out towards the west, right from the word go, we've got those weather fronts sweeping through with that broad area of wind and rain. so, splashing its way across ireland and scotland early in the morning, and then, later in the afternoon, that heavy rain will reach the midlands and eastern parts of england, as well. the temperatures may well reach 17 celsius in 1—2 spots, but with the wind gusting to up to 50 mph in some places, it won't feel that mild at all.
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so, once that weather front is out of the way, in the wake of it on saturday, we've got a brisk westerly wind and a mixture of sunshine and showers. temperatures in the north will be around 13 celsius. a little bit of mild air still left over in the south, around 16—18. that was saturday, let's have a look at sunday's weather forecast. and the low pressure is still very close by, in fact, quite a few isobars here in the north — and that does mean it will be a very blustery day on sunday, particularly across the northern half of scotland and around the northern isles, gale force winds here, in fact, and frequent showers. to the south, we've got calmer conditions, that's very pleasant weather, and temperatures between 16—18 celsius. so mostly sunny sunday the further south you are. now, this is thejet stream into next week, and you can see it's right over us — so that's where the weather you've got more unsettled weather. by that jet stream.
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however, there is some uncertainty exactly how much cloud and rain there will be ahead of this weather front. but we'll go for the sort of middle—ground forecast and call it cloudy conditions here, whereas dry and bright weather in the south. now with this jet stream, which will actually to be blowing in from the south — these are actually the winds closer to the ground, the surface winds — we will see slightly milder conditions heading our way, so that does mean that early in the week, we could see temperatures in the south of the country around 19 celsius, maybe 20, given a bit of sunshine. so, early next week, drier, a little warmer, a bit more sunshine on the way. that's it from me, bye—bye.
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tonight at ten: the bank of england is forced to intervene to try to bring stability to the financial markets. emergency help was needed to protect pension funds but amid the turmoil, the government is still refusing to change its plans.
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we think they're the right plans, because those plans make our economy competitive. at the end of the day, that's ultimately what we have to do.

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