hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. the january 6th committee says donald trump knew he had lost the 2020 election, but chose to ignore it despite overwhelming evidence thatjoe biden had won. so, he had said something to the effect of, "i don't want "people to know we lost, mark. "this is embarrassing. "figure it out. "we need to figure it out. "i don't want people to know that we lost." at the opening of the final public hearing, the chair, bennie thompson, said trump was the central cause of the january 6th riot and continues to present a clear and present danger to american democracy. when you look back at what has come out through this committee's work, the most striking fact is that all this evidence comes almost entirely from republicans. and at the end of the hearing,

the committee voted unanimously to subpoeana the former president. tonight with the context, former adviser to hillary clinton amanda renteria, bryan lanza who was the communications director for donald trump's transition team, and formerfederal prosecutorjoe moreno. welcome to the programme. this was the ninth public hearing into the assault on the us capitol. probably the last. the committee's focus was donald trump himself — his "actions, his inaction that day" and his "central culpability" in the riot. notjust the part he played on the day, but the groundwork that was laid before and after the vote. the committee produced taped evidence from two of donald trump's closest supporters, steve bannon and roger stone, who were openly talking about stealing the election before the vote had even been counted.

and what trump's going to do is just declare victory, right? he's going to declare victory. that doesn't mean he's the winner. he's just going to say he's the winner. also, if trump... ..if trump is losing by 10 or 11 o'clock at night, it's going to be even crazier. no, because he's going to sit right there and say they stole it. "i am directing the attorney general to shut down all ballot places in all 50 states." it's going to be nuts. he's not going out the easy way. the key thing to do is to claim victory. possession is nine tenths of the law. we'll have to start smashing pumpkins, if you know what i mean. the chair of the committee, bennie thompson, said donald trump knew he lost. he went to court to contest it, and he lost again. what he proceeded to do after that, said the chair, was a staggering betrayal of his oath. and remember he said the evidence that supports that fact came entirely from his own side. when you look back at what has come i out through this committee's work, i

the most striking fact is that. all this evidence comes almost entirely from republicans. the lead republican on the committee, liz cheney, said none of this would have happened without him. he was, she said, personally and substantially involved in all of it. he had a premeditated plan to claim the election was stolen before the vote. he found people to help him claim there was fraud, and even considered replacing his attorney general. his campaign team, his justice team, his attorney general and his white house counsel informed him there was no evidence to support his claim. and yet he chose to ignore them. his supporters manufactured voter slates in some of the key battleground states. he summoned his supporters to washington and sent them to the capitol knowing they were armed. then he incited them to further violence, blaming his vice president while the attack was under way. and then for 187 minutes, said liz cheney, he refused to intervene. why would americans assume that our constitution and our institutions

and our republic are invulnerable to another attack? why would we assume that those institutions will not falter next time? a key lesson of this investigation is this — our institutions only hold when men and women of good faith make them hold regardless of the political cost. we have no guarantee that these men and women will be in place next time. any future president inclined to attempt what donald trump did in 2020 has now learned not to install people who could stand in the way. this was a different public hearing for the boy got from the panel today was the entire plan, a step back, a look at the broader context and the time life. did it work? i look at the broader context and the time life. did it work?— time life. did it work? ithink it worked for— time life. did it work? ithink it worked for the _ time life. did it work? ithink it worked for the point _ time life. did it work? ithink it worked for the point they are l time life. did it work? i think it - worked for the point they are trying to make _ worked for the point they are trying to make in — worked for the point they are trying to make in this moment in history. while _

to make in this moment in history. while we _ to make in this moment in history. while we are — to make in this moment in history. while we are in it with all kinds of differehl— while we are in it with all kinds of different things swirling, your right— different things swirling, your right head of a midterm, you are seeing _ right head of a midterm, you are seeing just— right head of a midterm, you are seeing just people really experiencing the economy right now, everything _ experiencing the economy right now, everything is swirling about but i thihi

may not — news that is swirling around that may not feel like right now the moment— may not feel like right now the moment people can grab that, but this will— moment people can grab that, but this will be — moment people can grab that, but this will be a moment of history as people _ this will be a moment of history as people look back on this and then what _ people look back on this and then what happens from going forward. gn what happens from going forward. (gin the what happens from going forward. theissue what happens from going forward. the issue of what happens from going forward. on the issue of new swirling around, why do you think given that previous hearings were aired in primetime that they did this today at 1pm eastern without any live testimony? i think they had to do what they had to do— i think they had to do what they had to do with _ i think they had to do what they had to do with what they were dealing with, _ to do with what they were dealing with. in— to do with what they were dealing with, in other words you have got midterms — with, in other words you have got midterms happening, there is logistics — midterms happening, there is logistics around this to get the committee ready to actually do this where _ committee ready to actually do this where it— committee ready to actually do this where it does not seem political and yet it's— where it does not seem political and yet it's right in the middle of a midterm — yet it's right in the middle of a midterm election. you are also trying to— midterm election. you are also trying to close out something before midterms _ trying to close out something before midterms happen and there is a whole piece behind—the—scenes it is going up piece behind—the—scenes it is going up there _ piece behind—the—scenes it is going up there and probably don't know as well. up there and probably don't know as well what— up there and probably don't know as well. what is the department of justice _ well. what is the department of justice doing? houses moving along in the _ justice doing? houses moving along in the background? sol justice doing? houses moving along in the background? so i suspect there _ in the background? so i suspect there are — in the background? so i suspect there are some facts we don't know but you _ there are some facts we don't know but you could not get too close to

midterms and they were trying to get that right _ midterms and they were trying to get that right. the other piece that you heard _ that right. the other piece that you heard about they've gotten a lot of evidence, so how long do you research _ evidence, so how long do you research and research and study and then when _ research and research and study and then when you communicate to the people _ then when you communicate to the people so — then when you communicate to the people. so in that sense i think this is— people. so in that sense i think this is far— people. so in that sense i think this is far enough out yet at the same _ this is far enough out yet at the same time _ this is far enough out yet at the same time close enough to still be in the _ same time close enough to still be in the headlines and in the news and ain't really— in the headlines and in the news and ain't really setting in place that folks worry about what's going to happen _ folks worry about what's going to happen in— folks worry about what's going to happen in the midterms, take warnings _ happen in the midterms, take warnings seriously right now if you are in— warnings seriously right now if you are in a _ warnings seriously right now if you are in a district or state because i think— are in a district or state because i think the result of that worry and yoli're _ think the result of that worry and you're beginning to hear it and a lot of— you're beginning to hear it and a lot of midterm campaigns that are out there — lot of midterm campaigns that are out there right now, too. we saw a lot of new — out there right now, too. we saw a lot of new evidence _ out there right now, too. we saw a lot of new evidence today - out there right now, too. we saw a lot of new evidence today that - out there right now, too. we saw a lot of new evidence today that the | lot of new evidence today that the plan to claim the election was fraudulent went as far back as the summer. there were multiple officials who said that they knew what that plan was going to be. did you hear that before the election? listen, i've been part of trump

world _ listen, i've been part of trump world for— listen, i've been part of trump world for several years is one thing we do _ world for several years is one thing we do really good is fail to plan. i will be _ we do really good is fail to plan. i will be shocked to hear the planning took that— will be shocked to hear the planning took that place that far back, but i'm took that place that far back, but i'm sure — took that place that far back, but i'm sure in — took that place that far back, but i'm sure in president trump ozment mind, _ i'm sure in president trump ozment mind, he— i'm sure in president trump ozment mind, he starts talking about this and talking about the changing of the rules— and talking about the changing of the rules of the election, which that would go back to june. the rules of the election, which that would go back tojune. so probably— that would go back tojune. so probably those conversations took place. _ probably those conversations took place. but — probably those conversations took place, but i doubt there was an actual— place, but i doubt there was an actual physical plant. and that's a problem — actual physical plant. and that's a problem with the committee hearing today~ _ problem with the committee hearing today. there is no smoking gun. there's— today. there is no smoking gun. there's a — today. there is no smoking gun. there's a lot _ today. there is no smoking gun. there's a lot of smoke and fire but no direct— there's a lot of smoke and fire but no direct access where president trump _ no direct access where president trump said — no direct access where president trump said come here, arm yourselves and we'll_ trump said come here, arm yourselves and we'll take — trump said come here, arm yourselves and we'll take on the capitol and will stop— and we'll take on the capitol and will stop the certification of the election — will stop the certification of the election. i think that's what you need _ election. i think that's what you need at — election. i think that's what you need at this point if you're going to try— need at this point if you're going to try to— need at this point if you're going to try to go after an american president— to try to go after an american president and that's why it was at 1pm because nobody cares at one prm~ _ 1pm because nobody cares at one :m.. , , 1pm because nobody cares at one :m, _ , , ., 1pm because nobody cares at one p:m.. they said they would prove his centrality to — p:m.. they said they would prove his centrality to the _ p:m.. they said they would prove his centrality to the entire _ centrality to the entire event surrounding january the 6th and he is in front of so many different elements of it. we have got a tape asking the secretary of state to

look for votes. he is in connection with people who are putting alternative slates of voters together. he is on the help inciting a crowd he knows to be armed and want to go to the capitol and then as commander—in—chief, hate does not call off the mob and does not send the police and the guards to stop the police and the guards to stop the right. so is he not capable for the right. so is he not capable for the entirety of a given that he plays a role in all those different facets? i plays a role in all those different facets? ., , . ., , facets? i would say he is certainly incitin: facets? i would say he is certainly inciting violence _ facets? i would say he is certainly inciting violence and _ facets? i would say he is certainly inciting violence and i _ facets? i would say he is certainly inciting violence and i think- facets? i would say he is certainly inciting violence and i think you . inciting violence and i think you heard _ inciting violence and i think you heard nancy— inciting violence and i think you heard nancy politically- inciting violence and i think you heard nancy politically in - inciting violence and i think you heard nancy politically in the i heard nancy politically in the videos — heard nancy politically in the videos it _ heard nancy politically in the videos it took— heard nancy politically in the videos it took place - heard nancy politically in the videos it took place today . heard nancy politically in the videos it took place today to| heard nancy politically in the - videos it took place today to heat 100% _ videos it took place today to heat 100% inciting _ videos it took place today to heat 100% inciting violence. _ videos it took place today to heat 100% inciting violence. but- videos it took place today to heat 100% inciting violence. but to - videos it took place today to heat| 100% inciting violence. but to say that it _ 100% inciting violence. but to say that it was — 100% inciting violence. but to say that it was part— 100% inciting violence. but to say that it was part of— 100% inciting violence. but to say that it was part of this _ 100% inciting violence. but to say that it was part of this organised. that it was part of this organised grand _ that it was part of this organised grand scheme _ that it was part of this organised grand scheme where _ that it was part of this organised grand scheme where president. that it was part of this organised - grand scheme where president trump sought— grand scheme where president trump sought these — grand scheme where president trump sought these far — grand scheme where president trump sought these far right _ grand scheme where president trump sought these far right wing _ grand scheme where president trump sought these far right wing parties - sought these far right wing parties and had _ sought these far right wing parties and had them _ sought these far right wing parties and had them meet _ sought these far right wing parties and had them meet with— sought these far right wing parties and had them meet with no- sought these far right wing parties i and had them meet with no physical evidence _ and had them meet with no physical evidence and — and had them meet with no physical evidence and they _ and had them meet with no physical evidence and they actually - and had them meet with no physical evidence and they actually connect i evidence and they actually connect with the _ evidence and they actually connect with the white _ evidence and they actually connect with the white house _ evidence and they actually connect with the white house and - evidence and they actually connect with the white house and did - evidence and they actually connect i with the white house and did these things— with the white house and did these things on— with the white house and did these things on january _ with the white house and did these things on january the _ with the white house and did these things onjanuary the 6th, - with the white house and did these things onjanuary the 6th, i- with the white house and did these things onjanuary the 6th, i think. things onjanuary the 6th, i think that's— things onjanuary the 6th, i think that's the — things onjanuary the 6th, i think that's the bridge _ things onjanuary the 6th, i think that's the bridge that's _ things onjanuary the 6th, i think that's the bridge that's too - things onjanuary the 6th, i think that's the bridge that's too far i that's the bridge that's too far for the american _ that's the bridge that's too far for the american able _ that's the bridge that's too far for the american able to _ that's the bridge that's too far for the american able to jump - that's the bridge that's too far for the american able to jump and i that's the bridge that's too far for the american able tojump and i i the american able tojump and i don't _ the american able tojump and i don't think— the american able tojump and i don't think congress _ the american able tojump and i don't think congress has - the american able tojump and i don't think congress has hit - the american able tojump and i | don't think congress has hit that irurden— don't think congress has hit that burden and _ don't think congress has hit that burden and you _ don't think congress has hit that burden and you can— don't think congress has hit that burden and you can absolutely. don't think congress has hit that i burden and you can absolutely say that trump — burden and you can absolutely say that trump went _ burden and you can absolutely say that trump went to _ burden and you can absolutely say that trump went to great - burden and you can absolutely say|

that trump went to great excesses with delegates, — that trump went to great excesses with delegates, so _ that trump went to great excesses with delegates, so the _ that trump went to great excesses with delegates, so the tooting - with delegates, so the tooting delegates _ with delegates, so the tooting delegates and _ with delegates, so the tooting delegates and all— with delegates, so the tooting delegates and all those - with delegates, so the tooting delegates and all those thingsj delegates and all those things happened _ delegates and all those things happened. but— delegates and all those things happened. but this _ delegates and all those things happened. but this year- delegates and all those things happened. but this year was l delegates and all those things - happened. but this year was about january— happened. but this year was about january the — happened. but this year was about january the 6th _ happened. but this year was about january the 6th in _ happened. but this year was about january the 6th in the _ happened. but this year was about january the 6th in the balance - happened. but this year was about january the 6th in the balance of. january the 6th in the balance of took— january the 6th in the balance of took place in _ january the 6th in the balance of took place in their— january the 6th in the balance of took place in their calling - january the 6th in the balance of took place in their calling it - january the 6th in the balance of took place in their calling it its. took place in their calling it its erection— took place in their calling it its erection and _ took place in their calling it its erection and i— took place in their calling it its erection and i think _ took place in their calling it its erection and i think they- took place in their calling it its. erection and i think they probably have not— erection and i think they probably have not hit— erection and i think they probably have not hit that _ erection and i think they probably have not hit that mark. _ erection and i think they probably have not hit that mark. and - erection and i think they probably| have not hit that mark. and that's why and _ have not hit that mark. and that's why and they _ have not hit that mark. and that's why and they know _ have not hit that mark. and that's why and they know they _ have not hit that mark. and that's why and they know they had - have not hit that mark. and that's why and they know they had not l have not hit that mark. and that's. why and they know they had not had that mark and — why and they know they had not had that mark and that's _ why and they know they had not had that mark and that's why— why and they know they had not had that mark and that's why they - why and they know they had not had that mark and that's why they did i why and they know they had not had that mark and that's why they did at| that mark and that's why they did at ipm as— that mark and that's why they did at ipm as it _ that mark and that's why they did at 1pm as it was — that mark and that's why they did at 1pm as it was not _ that mark and that's why they did at 1pm as it was not a _ that mark and that's why they did at 1pm as it was not a primetime - 1pm as it was not a primetime special — 1pm as it was not a primetime special. because _ ipm as it was not a primetime special. because they- 1pm as it was not a primetime special. because they know i 1pm as it was not a primetime . special. because they know they 1pm as it was not a primetime - special. because they know theyjust don't have _ special. because they know theyjust don't have the — special. because they know theyjust don't have the smoking _ special. because they know theyjust don't have the smoking gun. - special. because they know theyjust don't have the smoking gun. [f- special. because they know theyjust don't have the smoking gun. if not. special. because they know they 'ust don't have the smoking gumfi don't have the smoking gun. if not a court of law. — don't have the smoking gun. if not a court of law. joe. — don't have the smoking gun. if not a court of law, joe, and _ don't have the smoking gun. if not a court of law, joe, and liz _ don't have the smoking gun. if not a court of law, joe, and liz cheney - court of law, joe, and liz cheney said that at the outset was what they can make criminal referrals but do you agree with brian? have a fallen short in terms of donald trump ozment legal capability? i trump ozment legal capability? i agree with him as far as they did not achieve the standard that he enunciated which is they did not definitively tied donald trump to oath keepers or groups of people being told to go to congress directly in the armed and cause violence, but congress did lay out, i think, a very understandable narrative that i think they can

support very strongly. they said, look, first off, ok to be mistaken about crazy theories and it's even 0k to about crazy theories and it's even ok to be a sore loser, but what donald trump did was he knew darn well that these theories about stolen boats and stuff balance and all that were nonsense. he privately acknowledge that but then publicly to millions of people over weeks following the election kept telling them things that he knew to be false. and then on the day of january the 6th, with analogy secret service had, knowing people were armed and incited and excitable, donald trump then kind of let that spark and sure enough, not surprisingly, that act and armed an energetic and angry mob marching on congress. i think that's a very understandable narrative. are the elements they are of a criminal prosecution? maybe. it's not as bad as what they could have done, but i

do think they did a nice job into the sizing something people can understand. latte the sizing something people can understand-— the sizing something people can understand. we will come to the sub-oena understand. we will come to the subpoena later _ understand. we will come to the subpoena later in _ understand. we will come to the subpoena later in the _ understand. we will come to the | subpoena later in the programme understand. we will come to the - subpoena later in the programme and where the legaljeopardy is with that. ijust wonder what where the legaljeopardy is with that. i just wonder what a criminal referral would look like. liz cheney so that ultimately is where they are heading in that produced there in a report in the final report and the referral to the doj. on what grounds would they refer it? it referral to the doj. on what grounds would they refer it?— would they refer it? it will be an arc ument would they refer it? it will be an argument there _ would they refer it? it will be an argument there should - would they refer it? it will be an argument there should be - would they refer it? it will be an argument there should be a - argument there should be a conspiracy to commit election fraud or conspiracy to defraud the government. it would be a wide—ranging argument that donald trump took steps to effectuate preventing the government, preventing the government, preventing congress and was a bit late vice president mike pence from doing his constitutional duty which is to certify valid electors. and so that's what dartmouth enough after proofing went back weeks and months it was before the election, frankly for the book is that he took the steps and it was not ultimately

successful but it does not have to be. it could be intent, so it would be unprecedented, not a case that is routinely brought because this is such a strange and unique situation. so, trying to guess whether it will be successful or not is difficult but you can see the contours and can see the elements of a crime that could definitely be laid out here. amanda, the connection between roger sloan and the domestic extremist groups is well documented. we have seen that before it's reported in many of the newspapers as well as his efforts to keep donald trump in power. it seems very clear from that video that we have seen today that he and steve bannon at least saw where things were going. would you at least agree with that?— at least agree with that? certainly. not only did he _ at least agree with that? certainly. not only did he and _ at least agree with that? certainly. not only did he and steve - at least agree with that? certainly. not only did he and steve bannonl at least agree with that? certainly. i not only did he and steve bannon but it seems— not only did he and steve bannon but it seems that there were a lot of other— it seems that there were a lot of other folks who knew exactly how trump _ other folks who knew exactly how trump was going to handle situation for the _ trump was going to handle situation for the better part that's really coming —

for the better part that's really coming to light more and more. is all the _ coming to light more and more. is all the other folks in the room that knew exactly what was going on and while they— knew exactly what was going on and while they might not have the creativity to believe it would have actually _ creativity to believe it would have actually happened, they were aware. and the _ actually happened, they were aware. and the fact that what you are seeing — and the fact that what you are seeing is _ and the fact that what you are seeing is it that they did not inform — seeing is it that they did not inform the calling survey did not push _ inform the calling survey did not push back— inform the calling survey did not push back and say we need to be worried _ push back and say we need to be worried about this and make sure we are putting _ worried about this and make sure we are putting safety measures in place in case _ are putting safety measures in place in case it— are putting safety measures in place in case it happens. that's what a normal— in case it happens. that's what a normal leader in normal circumstances does, and yet that did not happen — circumstances does, and yet that did not happen. and so there is a lot here _ not happen. and so there is a lot here that — not happen. and so there is a lot here that i — not happen. and so there is a lot here that i think you can pull a string — here that i think you can pull a string and start to wonder who knew what and _ string and start to wonder who knew what and when, and that's been really— what and when, and that's been really a — what and when, and that's been really a light shed here. i am certain— really a light shed here. i am certain that now that it's been revealed — certain that now that it's been revealed to all the secret service communication that has happened, there _ communication that has happened, there is— communication that has happened, there is a _ communication that has happened, there is a lot more for doj to really— there is a lot more for doj to really pull the string there as well — really pull the string there as well its— really pull the string there as well. it's not really a roll of the committee. but anyone that was involved. — committee. but anyone that was involved, it is clear that there was much _ involved, it is clear that there was much more — involved, it is clear that there was much more light on you now and going forward _ much more light on you now and going forward we _ much more light on you now and going forward. we will see where that goes but i suspect it's not going away.

some _ but i suspect it's not going away. some close to the white house did number the question that they asked is did the president know enough about it? let's get into that. since the last public hearing, the committee has gained access to a tens of thousands of e—mails and electronic messages that were sent by the secret service in the weeks leading up to the riot. one of those e—mails revealed how trump had reacted when the supreme court rejected a lawsuit challenging the election in december 2020. the white house aide cassidy hutchinson told the committee how he'd reacted to the news. so, he had said something to the effect of, "i don't "want "people to know we lost, mark. "this is embarrassing. "figure it out, we need to figure it out. "i don't want people to know that we lost." perhaps the most relevant material from the secret service files were the messages that were being exchanged by agents as the crowd gathered on the ellipse ahead of donald trump's speech. here's adam schiff.

another from 9:30am said that there were... "possibly oc spray", meaning pepper spray, "and/or plastic riot shields". at 11:23am, agents also reported... over the next hour, agents reported... schiff said the secret service were aware the evening before who was in washington and what their intentions were. the former deputy white house press secretaryjudd deere told the committee that trump talked at length about how "fired up" the crowd outside the white house was. that morning, the secret service told the president some of his supporters trying to get

through the screening machines, the mags, were armed. here's cassidy hutchinson again. i overheard the president say something to the effect of, "i don't effing care that they have weapons. "they're not here to hurt me, take the effing mags away! "let them in, let my people in. "they can march to the capitol after the rally is over. "they can march from ellipse. "take the effing mags away." in his speech, he told them to march on the capitol. in fact he wanted to join them, to physically walk to the capitol, against the advice of his staff and to the great consternation of his secret service agents. here's committee member pete aguilar. he knew well before 2pm that a violent riot was under way at the capitol. he was aware of the ongoing lawlessness. but his motorcade was held on west executive avenue outside the white house because he still wanted tojoin the crowd. my my question relating to what he knew

and whether he was legally capable is that he had been alerted and warned several times by his most senior aides and by secret service agents that the people were armed. and yet he wanted to go with them. he knew was their intention was and he was desperate to go along with it. . �* , .,, ., . it. that's the most damning evidence at this committee _ it. that's the most damning evidence at this committee has _ it. that's the most damning evidence at this committee has solicited - it. that's the most damning evidence at this committee has solicited overl at this committee has solicited over all these months. you don't need all the stuff about what happened in the weeks prior and whether this was a long cooked strategy to lie about the election. that's all interesting, fascinating but not necessary. the key details are if president trump knew there was an armed and angry crowd and that he was getting riled up by telling them falsehoods about election and then he encourage them to walk to the capital and he encouraged them to interfere with what vice president mike pence was supposed to do that day, which was to count the valid electoral votes, that's it. that's the whole story. everything else is

window dressing. everything else is additional detail. it's extremely damaging, and soap if you pull that thread with respect to how much the secret service know day and the day the prior to before and in the weeks prior to were armed crowds going that there were armed crowds going no, washington 6th and communicated w to service communicated that to the white that's critical. important that of the most important thing that of the most important thing that of today's hearing. of the most important thing that - of today's hearing. came out of today's hearing. yeah at the oint came out of today's hearing. yeah at the point of — came out of today's hearing. yeah at the point of knowing _ came out of today's hearing. yeah at the point of knowing that _ came out of today's hearing. yeah at the point of knowing that they - came out of today's hearing. yeah at the point of knowing that they were l the point of knowing that they were armed, and this is the critical factor and we will get into it later in the programme, their people ringing and urging to get ringing and urging him to get but he seemed to be involved but he seemed to be reveling in these pictures that we seeing. reveling in these pictures that we seeina. ., . .,, reveling in these pictures that we seeina. ., . ., . are seeing. same pictures making the the same pictures making the same calls the same pictures making the same - calls to— the same pictures making the same - calls to friends _ the same pictures making the same - calls to friends inside - the same pictures making the same - calls to friends inside the - phone calls to friends inside the administration _ phone calls to friends inside the administration saying _ phone calls to friends inside the administration saying he - phone calls to friends inside the administration saying he has. phone calls to friends inside the| administration saying he has had phone calls to friends inside the - administration saying he has had to step up— administration saying he has had to step up and — administration saying he has had to step up and call— administration saying he has had to step up and call the _ administration saying he has had to step up and call the people - administration saying he has had to step up and call the people all. - administration saying he has had to step up and call the people all. i. step up and call the people all. i am certainly— step up and call the people all. i am certainly not _ step up and call the people all. i am certainly not here _ step up and call the people all. i am certainly not here going - step up and call the people all. i am certainly not here going to. am certainly not here going to defend — am certainly not here going to defend that— am certainly not here going to defend that in— am certainly not here going to defend that in that _ am certainly not here going to defend that in that situation. i am certainly not here going to. defend that in that situation. but am certainly not here going to- defend that in that situation. but i

think. situation, _ defend that in that situation. but i think. situation, not _ defend that in that situation. but i think. situation, not calling. think that situation, not calling them _ think that situation, not calling them off. — think that situation, not calling them off. is— think that situation, not calling them off, is derelict— think that situation, not calling them off, is derelict of- think that situation, not calling them off, is derelict of duty . think that situation, not callingl them off, is derelict of duty and think that situation, not calling. them off, is derelict of duty and is probably— them off, is derelict of duty and is probably the — them off, is derelict of duty and is probably the best _ them off, is derelict of duty and is probably the best case _ probably the best case that congress io probably the best case that congress - go after— probably the best case that congress - go after president _ probably the best case that congress - go after president trump. . hast to go after president trump. but - the _ hast to go after president trump. but - the - case - hast to go after president trump. but - the - case that i hast to go after president trump. . but - the - case that heat hast to go after president trump. . but. of. the - case that heat hast to go after president trump. . but. of. th people, ase that heat hast to go after president trump. - but. of. th people, ase that heat and some ofcthese peoplefarmedthemand , let's some ofcthesepeoplefarmedthemand , let's m some ofcthesepeoplefarmedthemand - let's and stop this, i think said let's go and stop this, i think too said let's go and stop this, i think - too big _ said let's go and stop this, i think - too big of— said let's go and stop this, i think - too big of a _ said let's go and stop this, i think - too big of a hurdle for- said let's go and stop this, i think - too big of a hurdle for the i that's too big of a hurdle for the people to — that's too big of a hurdle for the people to follow. _ that's too big of a hurdle for the people to follow. the _ that's too big of a hurdle for the people to follow.— that's too big of a hurdle for the people to follow. the new witnesses that we saw — people to follow. the new witnesses that we saw today, _ people to follow. the new witnesses that we saw today, they _ people to follow. the new witnesses that we saw today, they included - people to follow. the new witnesses | that we saw today, they included the former secretary of state mike pompeo and former secretary of the treasury steven venusian and former secretary of transportation elaine chao, who is married to mitch mcconnell, and again reinforcing the fact is a state of my coming from those closest to him and not for democrats. did they give us anything different when it came to the way the president was thinking? i’m different when it came to the way the president was thinking? i'm not sure they gave _ the president was thinking? i'm not sure they gave us _ the president was thinking? i'm not sure they gave us anything - sure they gave us anything different, but they actually gave a credibility and validity to the involvement of donald trump in this moment _ involvement of donald trump in this moment. but it was not these advisers — moment. but it was not these advisers who were pushing to keep

continuing — advisers who were pushing to keep continuing with what the plan was they had — continuing with what the plan was they had but instead they were actually — they had but instead they were actually trying to help. so that he gives _ actually trying to help. so that he gives validity to the argument that this is— gives validity to the argument that this is not— gives validity to the argument that this is not a democratic led process. _ this is not a democratic led process, that in fact it very much is taking — process, that in fact it very much is taking people who were in the note. _ is taking people who were in the note. who — is taking people who were in the note, who were republican or donald trump _ note, who were republican or donald trump supporters at the time, well respected. — trump supporters at the time, well respected, who were also concerned and also _ respected, who were also concerned and also recognised the importance of upholding democracy today. and i think that's — of upholding democracy today. and i think that's a part that we also need _ think that's a part that we also need to— think that's a part that we also need to recognise here is that on the one _ need to recognise here is that on the one hand you have a legal case which _ the one hand you have a legal case whichjoe _ the one hand you have a legal case whichjoe talks the one hand you have a legal case which joe talks about which is specifics, the things that were really— specifics, the things that were really going to put someone in legal trouble _ really going to put someone in legal trouble versus the hearts and minds, which _ trouble versus the hearts and minds, which are _ trouble versus the hearts and minds, which are really important because it is an _ which are really important because it is an unprecedented situation we are in— it is an unprecedented situation we are in right — it is an unprecedented situation we are in right now in this country. and _ are in right now in this country. and so— are in right now in this country. and so it — are in right now in this country. and so it is _ are in right now in this country. and so it is really the committee trying _ and so it is really the committee trying to— and so it is really the committee trying to do both, trying to give some _ trying to do both, trying to give some space for the legal threats to pull as— some space for the legal threats to pull as well as creating the social and country context so that people may have — and country context so that people may have the courage to act, do

something — may have the courage to act, do something about this because the ultimate _ something about this because the ultimate goal here is that this does not happen again. and ultimate goal here is that this does not happen again-— ultimate goal here is that this does not happen again. and that's one of the key issues- _ not happen again. and that's one of the key issues. and _ not happen again. and that's one of the key issues. and liz _ not happen again. and that's one of the key issues. and liz cheney - not happen again. and that's one of| the key issues. and liz cheney made a deliberate point of making a reference to that in her opening statement, that all these people that we have heard evidence from the were urging him to stop, who were explaining the legal ramifications of what he was trying to do, they are the people who were protecting the institutions and the constitution. the people might not be there the next time, and that the committee is what this is so important. committee is what this is so important-— committee is what this is so im ortant. , . ., important. listen, i agree that we need to people — important. listen, i agree that we need to people there. _ important. listen, i agree that we need to people there. i _ important. listen, i agree that we need to people there. i to - important. listen, i agree that we need to people there. ito people| need to people there. ito people often _ need to people there. ito people often times— need to people there. ito people often times what _ need to people there. ito people often times what happened - need to people there. ito people often times what happened on i need to people there. ito people - often times what happened on january the 6th— often times what happened on january the 6th is— often times what happened on january the 6th is we — often times what happened on january the 6th is we stress— often times what happened on january the 6th is we stress test _ often times what happened on january the 6th is we stress test our— the 6th is we stress test our constitution. _ the 6th is we stress test our constitution. we _ the 6th is we stress test our constitution. we should - the 6th is we stress test our| constitution. we should ever the 6th is we stress test our- constitution. we should ever be in a situation _ constitution. we should ever be in a situation again — constitution. we should ever be in a situation again to _ constitution. we should ever be in a situation again to stress _ constitution. we should ever be in a situation again to stress test - constitution. we should ever be in a situation again to stress test our - situation again to stress test our constitution _ situation again to stress test our constitution. luckily— situation again to stress test our constitution. luckily the - situation again to stress test our| constitution. luckily the systems worked _ constitution. luckily the systems worked this— constitution. luckily the systems worked this time _ constitution. luckily the systems worked this time and _ constitution. luckily the systems worked this time and there's - constitution. luckily the systems worked this time and there's no. worked this time and there's no guarantee — worked this time and there's no guarantee that _ worked this time and there's no guarantee that it _ worked this time and there's no guarantee that it works - worked this time and there's no guarantee that it works next - worked this time and there's no i guarantee that it works next time. but i _ guarantee that it works next time. but i go _ guarantee that it works next time. but i go back— guarantee that it works next time. but i go back to _ guarantee that it works next time. but i go back to what _ guarantee that it works next time. but i go back to what this - guarantee that it works next time. i but i go back to what this committee is trying _ but i go back to what this committee is trying to— but i go back to what this committee is trying to achieve. _ but i go back to what this committee is trying to achieve. amanda - but i go back to what this committee is trying to achieve. amanda is - is trying to achieve. amanda is right. — is trying to achieve. amanda is right. is— is trying to achieve. amanda is right. is trying— is trying to achieve. amanda is right, is trying to _ is trying to achieve. amanda is right, is trying to get - is trying to achieve. amanda is right, is trying to get some - is trying to achieve. amanda is. right, is trying to get some type is trying to achieve. amanda is - right, is trying to get some type of buffer— right, is trying to get some type of buffer for—

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steam but also for the political of l view. we are talking about politics. the election— view. we are talking about politics. the election is— view. we are talking about politics. the election is a _ view. we are talking about politics. the election is a month _ view. we are talking about politics. the election is a month away - view. we are talking about politics. the election is a month away and l the election is a month away and this is been— the election is a month away and this is been at— the election is a month away and this is been at the _ the election is a month away and this is been at the forefront - the election is a month away and this is been at the forefront of. this is been at the forefront of everybody— this is been at the forefront of everybody part _ this is been at the forefront of everybody part of— this is been at the forefront of everybody part of and - this is been at the forefront of everybody part of and is - this is been at the forefront of everybody part of and is not . this is been at the forefront of- everybody part of and is not playing a role _ everybody part of and is not playing a role so _ everybody part of and is not playing a role so that _ everybody part of and is not playing a role. so that tells _ everybody part of and is not playing a role. so that tells you _ everybody part of and is not playing a role. so that tells you what - everybody part of and is not playing a role. so that tells you what the i a role. so that tells you what the american — a role. so that tells you what the american people _ a role. so that tells you what the american people are. _ a role. so that tells you what the american people are. they- a role. so that tells you what the american people are. they havel american people are. they have either— american people are. they have either moved _ american people are. they have either moved on _ american people are. they have either moved on from _ american people are. they have either moved on from this - american people are. they have either moved on from this or. american people are. they have i either moved on from this or they don't see — either moved on from this or they don't see it — either moved on from this or they don't see it as— either moved on from this or they don't see it as a _ either moved on from this or they don't see it as a priority _ either moved on from this or they don't see it as a priority as - either moved on from this or they don't see it as a priority as they . don't see it as a priority as they io don't see it as a priority as they go into— don't see it as a priority as they go into the _ don't see it as a priority as they go into the ballot _ don't see it as a priority as they go into the ballot election. - don't see it as a priority as they go into the ballot election. sol don't see it as a priority as they| go into the ballot election. so it runs— go into the ballot election. so it runs contrary _ go into the ballot election. so it runs contrary to _ go into the ballot election. so it runs contrary to what _ go into the ballot election. so it. runs contrary to what washington go into the ballot election. so it - runs contrary to what washington is doing. _ runs contrary to what washington is doing. but— runs contrary to what washington is doing, but voters _ runs contrary to what washington is doing, but voters don't _ runs contrary to what washington is doing, but voters don't care - runs contrary to what washington is doing, but voters don't care about i doing, but voters don't care about these _ doing, but voters don't care about these things — doing, but voters don't care about these things right _ doing, but voters don't care about these things right now. _ doing, but voters don't care about these things right now. they- doing, but voters don't care about these things right now. they will. these things right now. they will have _ these things right now. they will have it _ these things right now. they will have it but — these things right now. they will have it but they— these things right now. they will have it but they don't _ these things right now. they will have it but they don't have - these things right now. they will have it but they don't have it- these things right now. they will. have it but they don't have it now. i have it but they don't have it now. i was _ have it but they don't have it now. i was show — have it but they don't have it now. i was show you _ have it but they don't have it now. i was show you figures _ have it but they don't have it now. i was show you figures later - have it but they don't have it now. i was show you figures later that l have it but they don't have it now. | i was show you figures later that to back up what he is saying there, but in terms where republicans are tonight with a midterm ahead of us, how do they play this? it’s how do they play this? it's already been viewed _ how do they play this? it's already been viewed by — how do they play this? it's already been viewed by the _ how do they play this? it's already been viewed by the general - how do they play this? it's already been viewed by the general public| how do they play this? it's already l been viewed by the general public is a partisan _ been viewed by the general public is a partisan witch— been viewed by the general public is a partisan witch hunt _ been viewed by the general public is a partisan witch hunt and _ been viewed by the general public is a partisan witch hunt and i— been viewed by the general public is a partisan witch hunt and i think- a partisan witch hunt and i think the president and _ a partisan witch hunt and i think the president and his _ a partisan witch hunt and i think the president and his people - the president and his people had been _ the president and his people had been a _ the president and his people had been a good _ the president and his people had been a good job— the president and his people had been a good job of— the president and his people had been a good job of sort - the president and his people had been a good job of sort of- been a good job of sort of defining what this— been a good job of sort of defining what this committee _ been a good job of sort of defining what this committee is. _ been a good job of sort of defining what this committee is. and - been a good job of sort of defining what this committee is. and i- been a good job of sort of defining what this committee is. and ijust| what this committee is. and ijust think— what this committee is. and ijust think they— what this committee is. and ijust think theyjust_ what this committee is. and ijust think theyjust reinforce _ what this committee is. and ijust think theyjust reinforce that - think theyjust reinforce that narrative that's— think theyjust reinforce that narrative that's already - think theyjust reinforce that narrative that's already out i think theyjust reinforce that - narrative that's already out there for independent _ narrative that's already out there for independent voters _ narrative that's already out there for independent voters that - narrative that's already out there for independent voters that they| for independent voters that they don't _ for independent voters that they don't have — for independent voters that they don't have a _ for independent voters that they don't have a high— for independent voters that they don't have a high view— for independent voters that they don't have a high view of- for independent voters that they don't have a high view of the - don't have a high view of the committee _ don't have a high view of the

committee. the _ don't have a high view of the committee. the think- don't have a high view of the committee. the think is - don't have a high view of the committee. the think is a i don't have a high view of the - committee. the think is a partisan committee — committee. the think is a partisan committee. our— committee. the think is a partisan committee. our public— committee. the think is a partisan committee. our public is- committee. the think is a partisan committee. our public is at - committee. the think is a partisan committee. our public is at the i committee. the think is a partisan committee. our public is at the do isjust_ committee. our public is at the do isjust reinforce _ committee. our public is at the do is just reinforce the _ committee. our public is at the do isjust reinforce the existing - isjust reinforce the existing narrative _ isjust reinforce the existing narrative and _ isjust reinforce the existing narrative and that _ isjust reinforce the existing narrative and that blunt - isjust reinforce the existing narrative and that blunt of i isjust reinforce the existing. narrative and that blunt of all isjust reinforce the existing - narrative and that blunt of all the impact _ narrative and that blunt of all the impact this— narrative and that blunt of all the impact this is— narrative and that blunt of all the impact this is going _ narrative and that blunt of all the impact this is going to— narrative and that blunt of all the impact this is going to have. - impact this is going to have. it comes— impact this is going to have. it comes to _ impact this is going to have. it comes to going _ impact this is going to have. it comes to going to _ impact this is going to have. it comes to going to have - impact this is going to have. it comes to going to have an - impact this is going to have. it. comes to going to have an impact with the _ comes to going to have an impact with the circle _ comes to going to have an impact with the circle in _ comes to going to have an impact with the circle in washington - comes to going to have an impact with the circle in washington andl with the circle in washington and those _ with the circle in washington and those who— with the circle in washington and those who have _ with the circle in washington and those who have a _ with the circle in washington and those who have a bias _ with the circle in washington and those who have a bias already i with the circle in washington and those who have a bias already or| those who have a bias already or changing — those who have a bias already or changing hearts _ those who have a bias already or changing hearts and _ those who have a bias already or changing hearts and minds, - those who have a bias already or changing hearts and minds, i- those who have a bias already or. changing hearts and minds, i don't see it _ changing hearts and minds, i don't see it. so— changing hearts and minds, i don't see it. . , changing hearts and minds, i don't see it. ., , ., changing hearts and minds, i don't see it, ., , ., , changing hearts and minds, i don't seeit. ., ,, , changing hearts and minds, i don't seeit. . y., ,, , ., see it. so many of his supporters do still think the _ see it. so many of his supporters do still think the election _ see it. so many of his supporters do still think the election was - see it. so many of his supporters do still think the election was stolen. i still think the election was stolen. is it a defence for the former president that he thinks it was stolen or that he was duped, not that the evidence points in that direction because there is plenty of evidence that they have shown today that he did know he had lost. but is a defence to say, look, i honestly think the election was fraudulent? i think the election was fraudulent? i think it could have been a good defence, christian, had we not seen a lot of the evidence that we have seen. i think it could asserted out that way. donald trump could have said on the advice of my legal advisers, i believe there were legitimate issues with voting in certain states and certain cities

and i'm looking into it. and he can kind of stick with that for a while. the problem is when courts just one after the other reject your claims and not because the claims were not strong but because there were no claims at all, really nothing to support them and turn it to be just sort of baseless argument. and then when you're advisers are telling you, mr president committee will like the attorney general bill barr who said this is nuts some as is nonsense, nothing is there. at some point you cannot keep holding onto that and then use that as a good faith defence. so, yes, while you could have maybe at some point said that donald trump could have argued that, i don't see how that would hold up now under any kind of scrutiny. fit. hold up now under any kind of scrutin . �* , ., hold up now under any kind of scrutin . ~ , ., , ., ,, hold up now under any kind of scrutin . ~ , ., , .«i , ., hold up now under any kind of scrutin . ~ , ., , ., , scrutiny. a short break but to stay with us and _ scrutiny. a short break but to stay with us and we _ scrutiny. a short break but to stay with us and we will— scrutiny. a short break but to stay with us and we will get _ scrutiny. a short break but to stay with us and we will get plenty - scrutiny. a short break but to stay. with us and we will get plenty more of what we got from the committee today and we will look at the evidence in its entirety and look at the role the committee has played and we will also look at the legal ramifications for the former president. don't go away.

hello there. for large parts of the uk, it was a lovely afternoon with lots of sunshine, in particular across wales, good parts of the midlands, northern england and parts of eastern scotland as well. as well as the sunshine that was extensive for these areas, it was also very mild, with temperatures across england and wales running around 2—3 degrees celsius above the october average. we had temperatures here 18 degrees in both london and exeter as well, but it wasn't like that everywhere. for northern ireland and the west of scotland through the afternoon, we had a band of rain work in and also it became quite windy. overnight tonight, the band of rain will continue to push its way southwards across scotland and northern ireland.

england and wales, cloud will develop could be thick enough for an odd spot of rain just about anywhere and a few mist and fog patches, too, but it's not that cold overnight. temperatures 9—12 degrees. we are on the mild side of things. tomorrow, we pick up with our band of rain, slowly pushing out of scotland and in across northern england, reaching north wales later in the day. to the south of this, there will be more cloud around, i think, a few brighter spells, but also the risk of some patches of rain. the risk is greatest towards the south coast of england. another mild day, though. temperatures again reaching 18 degrees in the warmest spots, but for scotland and northern ireland, temperatures are closer to average for the time of year. the reason we're seeing these temperature contrast across the uk is down to the position of the jet stream, which is running right across the uk. the jet stream powered by temperature contrasts, we've got the colder side of it running into scotland and the milder air associated with it moving across england and wales. and there's no great changes with that into the weekend. now, the weekend will be unsettled.

we are looking at rain at times is probably the best way to sum things up. starting on a soggy note for saturday with a band of fairly heavy rain clearing through. then the winds pick up with the gusts probably running into the 40s of miles per hour, bringing lots of showers, particularly across western areas. those showers are likely to have a few rumbles of thunder mixed in. still mild across england and wales. if anything, though, it's getting a little bit cooler for scotland, with highs of 11 in glasgow. probably quite a quiet start to sunday with some morning mist and fog patches, some morning sunshine, but then we've got this next of the system coming in through the afternoon and that's going to be bringing some heavier rain to wales, western england, northern ireland and probably the south—west of scotland as well. bye— bye.

hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. the final public hearing into the events january 6 ends with a vote to subpoena the former president, donald trump. the committee said a subpoena for a former president was an extraordinary act but they will seek the testimony of them central player, under oath before they make criminal referrals. this before they make criminal referrals. is a question a accountability this is a question about accountability to the american people. he must be accountable. so what now? with midterm elections less than a month away, we analyse what impacts the capitol riots — and investigations — could have on american voters. tonight with the context, former advisor to hillary clinton, amanda renteria, bryan lanza who was the communications director for donald trump's transition team, and former federal

prosecutorjoe moreno. welcome back to the programme. the final public hearing into the events surrounding jan 6 comes at a pivotal moment, weeks before a midterm election in which control of congress is at stake. the panel know that in all likelihood time is short. should republicans win the house majority next month, then almost certainly they will disband the committee injanuary, and shut down further investigation. before then, the panel will need to produce a comprehensive written report and ultimately decide what recommendations they make for reform and prosecution. amanda, what could the committee to live in that final report that would stop this happening again? well. live in that final report that would stop this happening again? well, i think one would _

stop this happening again? well, i think one would be _ stop this happening again? well, i think one would be if _ stop this happening again? well, i think one would be if actually - think one would be if actually donaldj trump testifies. that in and of itself would obviously be a moment when everybody would tune in and have real implications on the next president, including his own presidency can do the next presidential run. they have actually laid out quite a bit in these, each of these hearings, that really allow the department ofjustice to take it from there. and so i suspect there will be equally thoughtful. you have a lot of legal minds on the committee but also in the house really thinking through what are there different legal threads that can be pulled. mostly, and you just heard a little while go that you point out, the secret service conversation that was happening and what president trump new at the time or didn't know is likely to be found somewhere in those secret service communication that this committee just wouldn't have privy to in a way that the department ofjustice does. but in terms of electoral reform that the committee can pass, is

something that would prevent a rerun of what we saw on january the 6th on the hill? ., ,, ., ,, ,., ., the hill? you know, i think some of this is about _ the hill? you know, i think some of this is about raising _ the hill? you know, i think some of this is about raising awareness. - the hill? you know, i think some of| this is about raising awareness. you are seeing congress come together and look at what they can do. but the midterm election results will have huge influence on this. there is no doubt that there has been effort by president trump to back secretary of states across the country. the thing that has been known is how much effort there can be or how much influence and legal responsibility states have. that really has raised awareness for folks on both sides of the aisle to engage in a different way. in state elections. so much of what we will learn and much of what folks are talking about right now is the midterms will have a say in that. as you are seeing in the secretary of state races, governors, weighing in knowing that now which are very different in any mid—term i've known in my lifetime, people recognise the power of these legislators and what

happened injanuary power of these legislators and what happened in january the 6th power of these legislators and what happened injanuary the 6th was because of the powers that states have in this process.— have in this process. because i think the republican _ have in this process. because i - think the republican establishment, brian, as opposed as they are to this committee and as opposed as they are to the way that the committee is going after donald trump, who could be their candidate in 2024, the likes of mitch mcconnell, the minority senate leader, wouldn't want to see the repeat of a president getting in the way of the role of congress, of the joint houses and the way that they count the vote. edit joint houses and the way that they count the vote.— count the vote. of course. i think ou have count the vote. of course. i think you have seen — count the vote. of course. i think you have seen bipartisan - count the vote. of course. i think. you have seen bipartisan legislation supporting the democrats to tighten up supporting the democrats to tighten up through election reform act, to tighten— up through election reform act, to tighten up— up through election reform act, to tighten up the process to certify a new american president. something that has— new american president. something that has bipartisan support. donald trump _ that has bipartisan support. donald trump is _ that has bipartisan support. donald trump is against it. there reasoning passed _ trump is against it. there reasoning passed in— trump is against it. there reasoning passed in a — trump is against it. there reasoning passed in a lame—duck session in

december~ — passed in a lame—duck session in december. you have members controlling both houses, a democratic president and you have bipartisan — democratic president and you have bipartisan support from the senate leadership. there are things out there _ leadership. there are things out there that — leadership. there are things out there that are going to strengthen this and _ there that are going to strengthen this and i— there that are going to strengthen this and i think it is important that— this and i think it is important that they— this and i think it is important that they do get strengthened. relying — that they do get strengthened. relying on election day and hoping that the _ relying on election day and hoping that the ballot is done the right way i _ that the ballot is done the right way i think leaves too much to chance — way i think leaves too much to chance. we have seen already and by the way— chance. we have seen already and by the way we _ chance. we have seen already and by the way we are seeing that what happened onjanuary the 605 having no impact _ happened onjanuary the 605 having no impact on our elections right now. _ no impact on our elections right now. so— no impact on our elections right now. so it — no impact on our elections right now. so it is _ no impact on our elections right now, so it is critical that at least the lame—duck day pa55 now, so it is critical that at least the lame—duck day pass this kind of electoral— the lame—duck day pass this kind of electoral reform that the democrats of the _ electoral reform that the democrats of the democratic leadership has come _ of the democratic leadership has come up — of the democratic leadership has come up with and the senate leadership 5upport5. come up with and the senate leadership supports. the ultimate backsto - leadership supports. the ultimate backstop of _ leadership supports. the ultimate backstop of course, _ leadership supports. the ultimate backstop of course, joe, - leadership supports. the ultimate backstop of course, joe, is - leadership supports. the ultimate backstop of course, joe, is the . backstop of course, joe, is the supreme court may have played a role in previous elections, thinking back to the election of george w bush. this time, the committee said that they have heard evidence from jenny thomas, who is of course the wife of a supreme courtjustice. does that

underminejustice a supreme courtjustice. does that undermine justice thomas's a supreme courtjustice. does that underminejustice thomas's position on the court that his wife is an election deny and was supportive of what bartram was doing?— what bartram was doing? christian, that would have _ what bartram was doing? christian, that would have been _ what bartram was doing? christian, that would have been very - that would have been very interesting _ that would have been very interesting had _ that would have been very interesting had we - that would have been very| interesting had we learned that would have been very- intere5ting had we learned more about— interesting had we learned more about that — interesting had we learned more about that testimony, _ interesting had we learned more about that testimony, it - interesting had we learned more about that testimony, it wasn't i about that testimony, it wasn't discussed _ about that testimony, it wasn't discussed at _ about that testimony, it wasn't discussed at all— about that testimony, it wasn't discussed at all today. - about that te5timony, it wasn't discussed at all today. i - about that testimony, it wasn't l discussed at all today. i question di5cu55ed at all today. ique5tion whether— discussed at all today. i question whether the _ discussed at all today. i question whether the supreme _ discussed at all today. i question whether the supreme court - discussed at all today. i question. whether the supreme court would discussed at all today. i question - whether the supreme court would have any role _ whether the supreme court would have any role in _ whether the supreme court would have any role in the — whether the supreme court would have any role in the election, _ whether the supreme court would have any role in the election, any— any role in the election, any election— any role in the election, any election coming _ any role in the election, any election coming up. - any role in the election, any election coming up. i- any role in the election, any election coming up. i think. any role in the election, anyi election coming up. i think it any role in the election, any. election coming up. i think it is the last— election coming up. i think it is the last thing _ election coming up. i think it is the last thing they _ election coming up. i think it is the last thing they want - election coming up. i think it is the last thing they want to - election coming up. i think it is the last thing they want to do. | election coming up. i think it i5| the last thing they want to do. i election coming up. i think it is - the last thing they want to do. i go back to _ the last thing they want to do. i go back to the — the last thing they want to do. i go back to the point _ the last thing they want to do. i go back to the point and _ the last thing they want to do. i go back to the point and i _ the last thing they want to do. i go back to the point and i have - the last thing they want to do. i go back to the point and i have said i back to the point and i have said this before. _ back to the point and i have said this before, this— back to the point and i have said this before, this hearing - back to the point and i have said this before, this hearing that. back to the point and i have said this before, this hearing that is. this before, this hearing that is now basically— this before, this hearing that is now basically concluded, - this before, this hearing that is now basically concluded, thi5 l this before, this hearing that is. now basically concluded, this was the impeachment _ now basically concluded, this was the impeachment investigation i now basically concluded, this was l the impeachment investigation that should _ the impeachment investigation that should have — the impeachment investigation that should have taken _ the impeachment investigation that should have taken place. _ the impeachment investigation that should have taken place. i- the impeachment investigation that should have taken place. i mean, . should have taken place. i mean, congress — should have taken place. i mean, congress did _ should have taken place. i mean, congre55 did have _ should have taken place. i mean, congre55 did have a _ should have taken place. i mean, congre55 did have a way - should have taken place. i mean, congre55 did have a way to - congre55 did have a way to investigate. _ congre55 did have a way to investigate, convict - congre55 did have a way to investigate, convict and i congre55 did have a way to| investigate, convict and bar congre55 did have a way to - investigate, convict and bar donald trump _ investigate, convict and bar donald trump from — investigate, convict and bar donald trump from running _ investigate, convict and bar donald trump from running again - investigate, convict and bar donald trump from running again and - investigate, convict and bar donald trump from running again and thatj trump from running again and that was impeachment _ trump from running again and that was impeachment investigation. i trump from running again and that l was impeachment investigation. and wa5 impeachment investigation. and they instead. — wa5 impeachment investigation. and they instead, rather— wa5 impeachment investigation. and they instead, rather than _ wa5 impeachment investigation. and they instead, rather than take - wa5 impeachment investigation. and they instead, rather than take the i they instead, rather than take the time and — they instead, rather than take the time and do — they in5tead, rather than take the time and do it— they instead, rather than take the time and do it right, _ they in5tead, rather than take the time and do it right, they- they instead, rather than take the time and do it right, they rushed. time and do it right, they rushed it. they wanted _ time and do it right, they rushed it. they wanted to _ time and do it right, they rushed it. they wanted to get _ time and do it right, they rushed it. they wanted to get it - time and do it right, they rushed it. they wanted to get it done i it. they wanted to get it done within— it. they wanted to get it done within a — it. they wanted to get it done within a week _ it. they wanted to get it done within a week while _ it. they wanted to get it done within a week while it - it. they wanted to get it done within a week while it was - it. they wanted to get it donel within a week while it was still it. they wanted to get it done i within a week while it was still in office _ within a week while it was still in office and — within a week while it was still in office and so— within a week while it was still in office. and so he _ within a week while it was still in office. and so he was— within a week while it was still inl office. and so he was impeached, within a week while it was still in - office. and so he was impeached, he was not _ office. and so he was impeached, he was not convicted _ office. and so he was impeached, he was not convicted for _ office. and so he was impeached, he was not convicted for a _ office. and so he was impeached, he was not convicted for a second - office. and so he was impeached, he was not convicted for a second time. was not convicted for a second time and therefore — was not convicted for a second time and therefore he _ was not convicted for a second time and therefore he was _ was not convicted for a second time and therefore he was not _ was not convicted for a second time and therefore he was not barred - was not convicted for a second time i and therefore he was not barred from office _ and therefore he was not barred from office so _ and therefore he was not barred from office so now — and therefore he was not barred from office so now a —

and therefore he was not barred from office. so now a year— and therefore he was not barred from office. so now a year and _ and therefore he was not barred from office. so now a year and a _ and therefore he was not barred from office. so now a year and a half- office. so now a year and a half later— office. so now a year and a half later i— office. so now a year and a half later i think _ office. so now a year and a half later i think at _ office. so now a year and a half later i think at this _ office. so now a year and a half later i think at this been - office. so now a year and a half later i think at this been the . later i think at this been the impeachment _ later i think at this been the impeachment investigationl later i think at this been the| impeachment investigation i later i think at this been the - impeachment investigation i think they would — impeachment investigation i think they would have _ impeachment investigation i think they would have gotten _ impeachment investigation i think they would have gotten many- impeachment investigation i think. they would have gotten many more republicans. — they would have gotten many more republicans, whether— they would have gotten many more republicans, whether through - they would have gotten many more l republicans, whether through shame or whether— republicans, whether through shame or whether through— republicans, whether through shame or whether through conscience, - republicans, whether through shamel or whether through conscience, would have voted _ or whether through conscience, would have voted to — or whether through conscience, would have voted to convict. _ or whether through conscience, would have voted to convict. they _ or whether through conscience, would have voted to convict. they would - have voted to convict. they would have _ have voted to convict. they would have reached _ have voted to convict. they would have reached that _ have voted to convict. they would have reached that two _ have voted to convict. they would have reached that two thirds - have reached that two thirds conviction— have reached that two thirds conviction necessary- have reached that two thirds conviction necessary in - have reached that two thirds conviction necessary in the l have reached that two thirds - conviction necessary in the senate and i_ conviction necessary in the senate and i think— conviction necessary in the senate and i think that — conviction necessary in the senate and i think that could _ conviction necessary in the senate and i think that could have - conviction necessary in the senate. and i think that could have resolved at least _ and i think that could have resolved at least the — and i think that could have resolved at least the problem _ and i think that could have resolved at least the problem of _ and i think that could have resolved at least the problem of donald - at least the problem of donald trump — at least the problem of donald trump l— at least the problem of donald trum -. . «i ., at least the problem of donald trum. . ,, ., ., ~ . trump. i mean, we know that mitch mcconnell did _ trump. i mean, we know that mitch mcconnell did prevaricate _ trump. i mean, we know that mitch mcconnell did prevaricate right - trump. i mean, we know that mitch mcconnell did prevaricate right up l mcconnell did prevaricate right up to the day of the vote. you didn't know which way is gonna vote. and one does wonder if he had been presented with the evidence that we have seen over the last nine public hearings, whether in fact it might have changed his vote.— hearings, whether in fact it might have changed his vote. well, i think not 'ust have changed his vote. well, i think not just mitch _ have changed his vote. well, i think notjust mitch mcconnell— have changed his vote. well, i think notjust mitch mcconnell but - have changed his vote. well, i think notjust mitch mcconnell but any - not just mitch mcconnell but any republican— not just mitch mcconnell but any republican who _ not just mitch mcconnell but any republican who would _ not just mitch mcconnell but any republican who would consider i not just mitch mcconnell but any. republican who would consider after seeing _ republican who would consider after seeing all_ republican who would consider after seeing all this — republican who would consider after seeing all this evidence _ republican who would consider after seeing all this evidence still- republican who would consider after seeing all this evidence still not - seeing all this evidence still not voting _ seeing all this evidence still not voting to — seeing all this evidence still not voting to convict, _ seeing all this evidence still not voting to convict, then - seeing all this evidence still not voting to convict, then they - seeing all this evidence still not . voting to convict, then they would have _ voting to convict, then they would have to _ voting to convict, then they would have to face — voting to convict, then they would have to face the _ voting to convict, then they would have to face the voters. _ voting to convict, then they would have to face the voters. then - voting to convict, then they would have to face the voters. then you| have to face the voters. then you would _ have to face the voters. then you would have — have to face the voters. then you would have the _ have to face the voters. then you would have the democratic- have to face the voters. then you| would have the democratic weight work its _ would have the democratic weight work its process, _ would have the democratic weight work its process, which— would have the democratic weight work its process, which is- would have the democratic weight work its process, which is that - would have the democratic weighti work its process, which is that the voters _ work its process, which is that the voters hotd — work its process, which is that the voters hold their— work its process, which is that the voters hold their elected - work its process, which is that the voters hold their elected officials. voters hold their elected officials accountable _ voters hold their elected officials accountable for— voters hold their elected officials accountable for the _ voters hold their elected officials accountable for the things - voters hold their elected officials accountable for the things they. voters hold their elected officialsi accountable for the things they do do or— accountable for the things they do do or don't— accountable for the things they do do or don't do _ accountable for the things they do do or don't do. i— accountable for the things they do do or don't do. i think— accountable for the things they do do or don't do. i think congress. do or don't do. i think congress realty— do or don't do. i think congress reattv dropped _ do or don't do. i think congress really dropped the _ do or don't do. i think congress really dropped the ball- do or don't do. i think congress really dropped the ball here. i do or don't do. i think congress| really dropped the ball here. so this is— really dropped the ball here. so this is maybe _ really dropped the ball here. so this is maybe the _ really dropped the ball here. so this is maybe the next - really dropped the ball here. so this is maybe the next best- really dropped the ball here. sol this is maybe the next best thing and now— this is maybe the next best thing and now we _ this is maybe the next best thing and now we have _ this is maybe the next best thing and now we have this _ this is maybe the next best thing and now we have this possible i and now we have this possible referral—

and now we have this possible referral to the _ and now we have this possible referral to the justice - and now we have this possible - referral to the justice department. this could — referral to the justice department. this could have _ referral to the justice department. this could have been— referral to the justice department. this could have been handled - referral to the justice department. this could have been handled very| this could have been handled very differenttv — this could have been handled very differentl . ., �* this could have been handled very differentl . . ~ , ., �* differently. yeah. and we shouldn't foruet differently. yeah. and we shouldn't for: et that differently. yeah. and we shouldn't forget that this _ differently. yeah. and we shouldn't forget that this is _ differently. yeah. and we shouldn't forget that this is personal - differently. yeah. and we shouldn't forget that this is personal for - differently. yeah. and we shouldn't forget that this is personal for a - forget that this is personal for a lot of these lawmakers because on january the 6th some of them were hiding of course from the rioters and came very close to the violence. and there is frustration on the democratic side that the republicans didn't vote to impeach after what they had gone through and after what republicans had said on the floor of the senate. today, we saw extraordinary new footage of the bunker that the speaker nancy pelosi and the majority leader chuck schumer were taken to while the rioters were on capitol hill. take a look. i'm going to call the secretary of dod. we have some senators who are still in their hideaways. they need massive personal now.

on the fact is on any given day they are breaking the law in many different ways. and quite frankly much of it at the instigation of the president of the united states. it is really fascinating watching that isn't it? we have not seen inside the bunker before, amanda, but it does reinforce the point were making earlier in the programme that there were some very senior lawmakers who were some very senior lawmakers who were speaking to the white house, speaking to the acting attorney general. who presumably were relaying some of this stuff to the president that people were in real danger. president that people were in real dancer. , ., . ., danger. they were. you could feel it, ou danger. they were. you could feel it. you could _ danger. they were. you could feel it, you could see _ danger. they were. you could feel it, you could see it, _ danger. they were. you could feel it, you could see it, you _ danger. they were. you could feel it, you could see it, you know- danger. they were. you could feel it, you could see it, you know it. l it, you could see it, you know it. it was also really telling to see how senators and the speaker were left to their own relationships to try and figure out how to protect the capital at that moment. i mean, it really puts a fine picture on

just how fragile things were as well as thank goodness we have lawmakers who were in the room trying to figure it out to get help, to say not only are people's personal safety at risk here but we have got to make sure that this country knows we are going to go through with the duties we all hold in order to have a democracy in the next 2a hours. i mean, you know, and the conversation before about what republicans were and weren't willing to do, you did see in 48 hours, 72 hours, right after they all came together on the house floor. and i'm not exactly sure what happened from that moment to when you have the impeachment where it all fell apart. and in many cases you have the same republican leaders worried in those bunkers turn within hours from being worried to saying and not exactly sure what happened. trying to actually change the story that has now resulted in people still being election deny is

that i believe that january the six actually happen. in that i believe that january the six actually happen-— actually happen. in fairness to republicans — actually happen. in fairness to republicans who _ actually happen. in fairness to republicans who were - actually happen. in fairness to republicans who were there . actually happen. in fairness to | republicans who were there at actually happen. in fairness to - republicans who were there at that very moment, and you see this further in the tate, brian, they are adamant that this vote has to be counted. whatever the threat that is there and whatever the damage that has been done to the capital, you hear it from pelosi and assuming that the republicans want to get on and do this vote, what ever obstacles are being put in their way and that is the institution and the constitution being tested. it is constitution being tested. it is the stress test- _ constitution being tested. it is the stress test- i _ constitution being tested. it is the stress test. i hate _ constitution being tested. it is the stress test. i hate that _ constitution being tested. it is the stress test. i hate that we - constitution being tested. it is the stress test. i hate that we have i constitution being tested. it is the stress test. i hate that we have to | stress test. i hate that we have to stress _ stress test. i hate that we have to stress test — stress test. i hate that we have to stress test things but i prefer that we don't _ stress test things but i prefer that we don't put the stress to our constitution on any particular day like that— constitution on any particular day like that but that is our constitution working and surviving a stress _ constitution working and surviving a stress test — constitution working and surviving a stress test. we talked about these hearings _ stress test. we talked about these hearings as having the impact. when richard _ hearings as having the impact. when richard nixon resigned in the 70s, his approval rating was in the teens he had _ his approval rating was in the teens he had10% — his approval rating was in the teens he had 10% approval, 80% of the country— he had 10% approval, 80% of the country thought he was a criminal. we are _ country thought he was a criminal. we are so— country thought he was a criminal. we are so far away from that in this modern _ we are so far away from that in this modern time. that is a context i

want _ modern time. that is a context i want to— modern time. that is a context i want to bring forward with respect to the _ want to bring forward with respect to the committee. they haven't done theiriob _ to the committee. they haven't done theiriob of— to the committee. they haven't done theirjob of convincing the american people _ theirjob of convincing the american people are — theirjob of convincing the american people are donald trump committed a crime _ people are donald trump committed a crime because it is not reflected in the public— crime because it is not reflected in the public opinions, where it was when _ the public opinions, where it was when richard nixon resigned and was about— when richard nixon resigned and was about to _ when richard nixon resigned and was about to be _ when richard nixon resigned and was about to be charged. it is important to have _ about to be charged. it is important to have that— about to be charged. it is important to have that context. a lot of bad, horrible _ to have that context. a lot of bad, horrible things happened but the public— horrible things happened but the public is — horrible things happened but the public is nowhere near where they were _ public is nowhere near where they were with — public is nowhere near where they were with richard nixon where they wanted _ were with richard nixon where they wanted retribution towards the american president. i think that's what _ american president. i think that's what makes it very hard for the indictment of the former present. in indictment of the former present. in the indictment of the former present. the 21st indictment of the former present. in the 21st century. amanda makes the the 2ist century. amanda makes the point, joe, the americans have short memories but they face the perpetual pressure of the media machine is behind donald trump and that is different to what nixon had. he has conspiracy channels, we have had some reaction from truth social in

the last few minutes... imean, we i mean, we know, we can stop by millisecond, that is not going to testify but this is a point republicans that he is there and he is ever president that he present and the pressure comes from the supporters by the channels. you are riuht. i supporters by the channels. you are right- i don't — supporters by the channels. you are right. i don't envy _ supporters by the channels. you are right. i don't envy nationally - right. i don't envy nationally elected _ right. idon't envy nationally elected or— right. idon't envy nationally elected or federal— right. i don't envy nationally elected or federal elected i elected or federal elected republicans _ elected or federal elected republicans these - elected or federal elected republicans these days i elected or federal elected - republicans these days because at some _ republicans these days because at some point— republicans these days because at some point they— republicans these days because at some point they can _ republicans these days because at some point they can have - republicans these days because at some point they can have to - republicans these days because ati some point they can have to choose republicans these days because at i some point they can have to choose a team _ some point they can have to choose a team and _ some point they can have to choose a team and i_ some point they can have to choose a team and i think— some point they can have to choose a team and i think is _ some point they can have to choose a team and i think is can— some point they can have to choose a team and i think is can be _ team and i think is can be fascinating. _ team and i think is can be fascinating. once these . team and i think is can be - fascinating. once these midterms team and i think is can be _ fascinating. once these midterms are behind _ fascinating. once these midterms are behind as— fascinating. once these midterms are behind as next— fascinating. once these midterms are behind as next month _ fascinating. once these midterms are behind as next month it— fascinating. once these midterms are behind as next month it is— fascinating. once these midterms are behind as next month it is going - fascinating. once these midterms are behind as next month it is going be . behind as next month it is going be all focus _ behind as next month it is going be all focus the — behind as next month it is going be all focus the residential— all focus the residential nomination. _ all focus the residential nomination. i— all focus the residential nomination. i do - all focus the residential nomination. i do think. all focus the residential. nomination. i do think the all focus the residential— nomination. i do think the democrats made _ nomination. i do think the democrats made a _ nomination. i do think the democrats made a major— nomination. i do think the democrats made a major misstep— nomination. i do think the democrats made a major misstep in— nomination. i do think the democrats made a major misstep in the - made a major misstep in the committee _ made a major misstep in the committee by— made a major misstep in the committee by not _ made a major misstep in the committee by not allowing . committee by not allowing republicans _ committee by not allowing republicans to _ committee by not allowing republicans to name - committee by not allowing republicans to name their| committee by not allowing - republicans to name their own members _ republicans to name their own members an— republicans to name their own members. an by— republicans to name their own members. an by hand—picking| republicans to name their own . members. an by hand—picking the republicans to name their own - members. an by hand—picking the two republicans _ members. an by hand—picking the two republicans that— members. an by hand—picking the two republicans that liz— members. an by hand—picking the two republicans that liz cheney _ members. an by hand—picking the two republicans that liz cheney and - members. an by hand—picking the two republicans that liz cheney and adam j republicans that liz cheney and adam kidd zvnga. _ republicans that liz cheney and adam kidd zvnga. the — republicans that liz cheney and adam kidd zynga, the democrats _ republicans that liz cheney and adam kidd zynga, the democrats gave - republicans that liz cheney and adam kidd zynga, the democrats gave the l kidd zynga, the democrats gave the excuse _ kidd zynga, the democrats gave the excuse that — kidd zynga, the democrats gave the excuse that this _ kidd zynga, the democrats gave the

excuse that this committee - kidd zynga, the democrats gave the excuse that this committee is - kidd zynga, the democrats gave the excuse that this committee is all - excuse that this committee is all pass— excuse that this committee is all pass on— excuse that this committee is all pass on because _ excuse that this committee is all pass on because there _ excuse that this committee is all pass on because there are - excuse that this committee is all pass on because there are no - excuse that this committee is alll pass on because there are no real republicans — pass on because there are no real republicans on _ pass on because there are no real republicans on it. _ pass on because there are no real republicans on it. i— pass on because there are no real republicans on it. ithink- pass on because there are no real republicans on it. i think that - pass on because there are no real| republicans on it. i think that was a real— republicans on it. i think that was a real misstep~ _ republicans on it. i think that was a real misstep. and _ republicans on it. i think that was a real misstep. and if— republicans on it. i think that was a real misstep. and if you - republicans on it. i think that was a real misstep. and if you had - a real misstep. and if you had allowed — a real misstep. and if you had allowed other— a real misstep. and if you had allowed other members - a real misstep. and if you had allowed other members of- a real misstep. and if you had| allowed other members of the a real misstep. and if you had - allowed other members of the house tojoin— allowed other members of the house toioin the _ allowed other members of the house to join the committee _ allowed other members of the house to join the committee there - allowed other members of the house tojoin the committee there may- allowed other members of the house| tojoin the committee there may have made _ tojoin the committee there may have made a _ tojoin the committee there may have made a commotion— tojoin the committee there may have made a commotion and _ tojoin the committee there may have made a commotion and not— tojoin the committee there may have j made a commotion and not cooperate like the _ made a commotion and not cooperate like the democrats _ made a commotion and not cooperate like the democrats like _ made a commotion and not cooperate like the democrats like to _ made a commotion and not cooperate like the democrats like to put - made a commotion and not cooperate like the democrats like to put the - like the democrats like to put the wannabe — like the democrats like to put the wannabe the _ like the democrats like to put the wannabe the argument— like the democrats like to put the wannabe the argument that - like the democrats like to put the wannabe the argument that it - like the democrats like to put the| wannabe the argument that it was like the democrats like to put the . wannabe the argument that it was a partisan _ wannabe the argument that it was a partisan committee. _ wannabe the argument that it was a partisan committee. that _ wannabe the argument that it was a partisan committee. that was - wannabe the argument that it was a partisan committee. that was a - partisan committee. that was a mistake — partisan committee. that was a mistake it— partisan committee. that was a mistake. if the _ partisan committee. that was a mistake. if the republicans - partisan committee. that was a mistake. if the republicans had partisan committee. that was a - mistake. if the republicans had some real skin _ mistake. if the republicans had some real skin in _ mistake. if the republicans had some real skin in the — mistake. if the republicans had some real skin in the game _ mistake. if the republicans had some real skin in the game in _ mistake. if the republicans had some real skin in the game in this _ real skin in the game in this committee _ real skin in the game in this committee it— real skin in the game in this committee it may— real skin in the game in this committee it may have - real skin in the game in this l committee it may have forced real skin in the game in this - committee it may have forced them real skin in the game in this _ committee it may have forced them to step up— committee it may have forced them to step up and _ committee it may have forced them to step up and take — committee it may have forced them to step up and take more _ committee it may have forced them to step up and take more seriously- step up and take more seriously rather— step up and take more seriously rather than _ step up and take more seriously rather than sort _ step up and take more seriously rather than sort of _ step up and take more seriously rather than sort of shrugging . step up and take more seriously rather than sort of shrugging iti rather than sort of shrugging it off. ., ., ., , , off. hold that thought because i want to talk _ off. hold that thought because i want to talk about _ off. hold that thought because i want to talk about the - off. hold that thought because i want to talk about the way - want to talk about the way congressional hearings of changing the way blue what happened. at the end of a hearing today the panel did vote. it was approved unanimously, we know that, will talk about how the main. committee resolution one resolve. that the chairman be and is hereby directed to subpoena donaldj trump documents and testimony in connection with the january the 6th attack on united states capital. it

there is no further debate, the question is on agreeing to the resolution. those in favour will say ayes. those opposed noes. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. . ., ., , ., ., it. the committee has done that before remember, _ it. the committee has done that before remember, they - it. the committee has done that| before remember, they approved it. the committee has done that i before remember, they approved a criminal contempt report against steve bannon after he refused to comply with a subpoena deadline. they go that far with the former president, joe? the they go that far with the former president, joe?— they go that far with the former president, joe? the calendar is the committee's _ president, joe? the calendar is the committee's worst _ president, joe? the calendar is the committee's worst enemy - president, joe? the calendar is the committee's worst enemy because | president, joe? the calendar is the - committee's worst enemy because they can have _ committee's worst enemy because they can have to— committee's worst enemy because they can have to do— committee's worst enemy because they can have to do all— committee's worst enemy because they can have to do all of— committee's worst enemy because they can have to do all of this _ committee's worst enemy because they can have to do all of this in _ committee's worst enemy because they can have to do all of this in the - can have to do all of this in the next _ can have to do all of this in the next few— can have to do all of this in the next few weeks. _ can have to do all of this in the next few weeks. they- can have to do all of this in the next few weeks. they get - can have to do all of this in the next few weeks. they get after issued — next few weeks. they get after issued a — next few weeks. they get after issued a subpoena, _ next few weeks. they get after issued a subpoena, give - next few weeks. they get after| issued a subpoena, give donald next few weeks. they get after- issued a subpoena, give donald trump a chance _ issued a subpoena, give donald trump a chance to _ issued a subpoena, give donald trump a chance to comply— issued a subpoena, give donald trump a chance to comply or _ issued a subpoena, give donald trump a chance to comply or refuse. - issued a subpoena, give donald trump a chance to comply or refuse. then - a chance to comply or refuse. then they will— a chance to comply or refuse. then they will have _ a chance to comply or refuse. then they will have to _ a chance to comply or refuse. then they will have to have _ a chance to comply or refuse. then they will have to have a _ a chance to comply or refuse. then they will have to have a foe - a chance to comply or refuse. then they will have to have a foe on - they will have to have a foe on contempt _ they will have to have a foe on contempt and _ they will have to have a foe on contempt and then _ they will have to have a foe on contempt and then they - they will have to have a foe on contempt and then they will i they will have to have a foe on i contempt and then they will have they will have to have a foe on - contempt and then they will have to send it— contempt and then they will have to send it to _ contempt and then they will have to send it to the — contempt and then they will have to send it to the justice _ contempt and then they will have to send it to the justice departments l send it to the justice departments if they— send it to the justice departments if they do— send it to the justice departments if they do anything _ send it to the justice departments if they do anything with _ send it to the justice departments if they do anything with it. - send it to the justice departments if they do anything with it. all- if they do anything with it. all because — if they do anything with it. all because the _ if they do anything with it. all because the next _ if they do anything with it. all because the next congress i if they do anything with it. all because the next congress is| if they do anything with it. all- because the next congress is seated when _ because the next congress is seated when most — because the next congress is seated when most likely— because the next congress is seated when most likely republicans - because the next congress is seated when most likely republicans will. when most likely republicans will control— when most likely republicans will control the — when most likely republicans will control the house. _ when most likely republicans will control the house. it _ when most likely republicans will control the house. it might- when most likely republicans will control the house. it might be . when most likely republicans will

control the house. it might be a i control the house. it might be a little _ control the house. it might be a little too — control the house. it might be a little too little, _ control the house. it might be a little too little, too _ control the house. it might be a little too little, too late. - control the house. it might be a little too little, too late. it - control the house. it might be a little too little, too late. it wasi little too little, too late. it was dramatic, _ little too little, too late. it was dramatic, i_ little too little, too late. it was dramatic, i was _ little too little, too late. it was dramatic, i was not _ little too little, too late. it was dramatic, i was not expecting i little too little, too late. it was| dramatic, i was not expecting it little too little, too late. it was - dramatic, i was not expecting it and ithink— dramatic, i was not expecting it and i think it _ dramatic, i was not expecting it and i think it was — dramatic, i was not expecting it and i think it was a _ dramatic, i was not expecting it and i think it was a good _ dramatic, i was not expecting it and i think it was a good move. - dramatic, i was not expecting it and i think it was a good move. but - dramatic, i was not expecting it and i think it was a good move. but the | i think it was a good move. but the likelihood _ i think it was a good move. but the likelihood of— i think it was a good move. but the likelihood of it _ i think it was a good move. but the likelihood of it actually _ i think it was a good move. but the likelihood of it actually happening i likelihood of it actually happening is extremely _ likelihood of it actually happening is extremely remote. _ likelihood of it actually happening is extremely remote. he’s - likelihood of it actually happening is extremely remote.— likelihood of it actually happening is extremely remote. he's never been sub'ect to is extremely remote. he's never been subject to real— is extremely remote. he's never been subject to real questioning _ is extremely remote. he's never been subject to real questioning as - is extremely remote. he's never been subject to real questioning as to - subject to real questioning as to what has been laid out, brian. at the american people owed his testimony? he claims to be the strong man. here he has an opportunity to give his side of the story under oath and that is the key part. not on truth social, under oath. . . , part. not on truth social, under oath. . ., , ., ,�* ., oath. he certainly doesn't do it by the rules of— oath. he certainly doesn't do it by the rules of washington, - oath. he certainly doesn't do it by the rules of washington, dc - oath. he certainly doesn't do it by| the rules of washington, dc which oath. he certainly doesn't do it by i the rules of washington, dc which is under— the rules of washington, dc which is under oath _ the rules of washington, dc which is under oath nonsense. bill clinton lied under— under oath nonsense. bill clinton lied under oath and the democrats didn't— lied under oath and the democrats didn't seem to care then. i think it does _ didn't seem to care then. i think it does owe — didn't seem to care then. i think it does owe the american people an explosion — does owe the american people an explosion. i hope you stepped forward — explosion. i hope you stepped forward and gives it. i think it is needed — forward and gives it. i think it is needed -- _ forward and gives it. i think it is needed. —— he does owe the american people an explanation. the democrats blew this _ people an explanation. the democrats blew this committee from the very

beginning — blew this committee from the very beginning with the impeachment nonsense and then make an partisan committee. — nonsense and then make an partisan committee, they've deflated the best weapons _ committee, they've deflated the best weapons i _ committee, they've deflated the best weapons i had to hold on blue donald trump _ weapons i had to hold on blue donald trump accountable and that is what happens _ trump accountable and that is what happens when you bring partisanship into a _ happens when you bring partisanship into a process that should be partisan _ into a process that should be partisan free.— into a process that should be partisan free. amanda, on this issue, partisan free. amanda, on this issue. we _ partisan free. amanda, on this issue, we know _ partisan free. amanda, on this issue, we know he's _ partisan free. amanda, on this issue, we know he's not - partisan free. amanda, on this issue, we know he's not going| partisan free. amanda, on this l issue, we know he's not going to testify, clearly he will not testify. there are so many others who have pleaded the fifth who've gone before and that is not going to do that. but i think politically it is important for the committee, isn't it? it is important for the committee, isn't it? . . is important for the committee, isn't it? . , , ,., ., is important for the committee, isn't it? , ., ., isn't it? it was. it is important to sa we isn't it? it was. it is important to say we gave _ isn't it? it was. it is important to say we gave him _ isn't it? it was. it is important to say we gave him a _ isn't it? it was. it is important to say we gave him a shot - isn't it? it was. it is important to say we gave him a shot to - isn't it? it was. it is important to say we gave him a shot to come| say we gave him a shot to come here. buy will also say i'm not sure trump is always predictable. so i will always say that. who knows how things work out in the midterms and if he needs a platform that is good for him or a case or anything he needs, he will absolutely defy predictions and make sure you

utilise platforms he has. maybe that is one of them. i doubt it as well but i never say never in terms of how he would utilise an opportunity to speak broadly to the public, especially because he hasn't been able to be on some of the other social forums that exist out there right now. social forums that exist out there ri . ht now. . ., ~ social forums that exist out there riaht now. . ., ~ ., right now. can we talk about the committee _ right now. can we talk about the committee itself _ right now. can we talk about the committee itself because - right now. can we talk about the committee itself because joe - right now. can we talk about the - committee itself because joe touched committee itself becausejoe touched on it. what is, whether it is change for good or bad the way that congressional cases run in the future. they fought a very public battle, brian, with the former present. with regard to the public side of this, the public hearings, they've set out in a very different way to previous inquiries. did they win in the way that they presented it? because it was compelling. you know, it? because it was compelling. you know. listen. _ it? because it was compelling. you know, listen, what _ it? because it was compelling. you know, listen, what matters more than anything _ know, listen, what matters more than anything when commerce does something is it has credibility. somebody who is a republican and analyses— somebody who is a republican and analyses data and analyses public opinion— analyses data and analyses public opinion it — analyses data and analyses public opinion itjust always analyses data and analyses public opinion it just always lacked the credibility because of what joe opinion it just always lacked the credibility because of whatjoe said earlier, _ credibility because of whatjoe said

earlier, it — credibility because of whatjoe said earlier, it didn't have republicans. ithink— earlier, it didn't have republicans. i think that — earlier, it didn't have republicans. i think that is bad for future committees. i think these things, these _ committees. i think these things, these short—term gains ultimately these short—term gains ultimately the long—term effect of keeping our country— the long—term effect of keeping our country more divided and congress more _ country more divided and congress more partisan. it was a huge mistake the way— more partisan. it was a huge mistake the way they— more partisan. it was a huge mistake the way they did it and it can be replicated — the way they did it and it can be replicated and it is gonna be a mistake — replicated and it is gonna be a mistake when republicans do it. it is a shame — mistake when republicans do it. it is a shame as what's happened to our constitution — is a shame as what's happened to our constitution. gne is a shame as what's happened to our constitution-— constitution. one does a matching, joe. constitution. one does a matching, joe, that constitution. one does a matching, joe. that is — constitution. one does a matching, joe. that is a _ constitution. one does a matching, joe, that is a precedent _ constitution. one does a matching, joe, that is a precedent that - joe, that is a precedent that republicans will follow if they get the majority. they don't necessarily have to have a plethora of democrats on the panel. have to have a plethora of democrats on the panel-— on the panel. yeah, i hope not. it is a bad precedent. _ on the panel. yeah, i hope not. it is a bad precedent. it _ on the panel. yeah, i hope not. it is a bad precedent. it is— on the panel. yeah, i hope not. it is a bad precedent. it is very - is a bad precedent. it is very contrary— is a bad precedent. it is very contrary to _ is a bad precedent. it is very contrary to the _ is a bad precedent. it is very contrary to the nature - is a bad precedent. it is very contrary to the nature of- is a bad precedent. it is very. contrary to the nature of these is a bad precedent. it is very- contrary to the nature of these kind of committees _ contrary to the nature of these kind of committees in _ contrary to the nature of these kind of committees in congress. - contrary to the nature of these kind of committees in congress. when l contrary to the nature of these kind of committees in congress. when i| of committees in congress. when i really— of committees in congress. when i really hope — of committees in congress. when i really hope republicans _ of committees in congress. when i really hope republicans do - of committees in congress. when i really hope republicans do not - really hope republicans do not emulate — really hope republicans do not emulate it _ really hope republicans do not emulate it and _ really hope republicans do not emulate it and make _ really hope republicans do not emulate it and make this - really hope republicans do not emulate it and make this sorti really hope republicans do not. emulate it and make this sort of a habit— emulate it and make this sort of a habit going — emulate it and make this sort of a

habit going forward. _ emulate it and make this sort of a habit going forward. yeah, - emulate it and make this sort of a habit going forward. yeah, it - emulate it and make this sort of a l habit going forward. yeah, it really undermine — habit going forward. yeah, it really undermine the— habit going forward. yeah, it really undermine the whole _ habit going forward. yeah, it really undermine the whole process. - habit going forward. yeah, it really undermine the whole process. the| undermine the whole process. the committee — undermine the whole process. the committee took— undermine the whole process. the committee took too _ undermine the whole process. the committee took too long - undermine the whole process. the committee took too long frankly. i committee took too long frankly. they— committee took too long frankly. they had — committee took too long frankly. they had a — committee took too long frankly. they had a lot _ committee took too long frankly. they had a lot of _ committee took too long frankly. they had a lot of work _ committee took too long frankly. they had a lot of work to - committee took too long frankly. they had a lot of work to do, - committee took too long frankly. . they had a lot of work to do, it was important _ they had a lot of work to do, it was important work _ they had a lot of work to do, it was important work but _ they had a lot of work to do, it was important work but they waited - they had a lot of work to do, it was important work but they waited sol important work but they waited so long _ important work but they waited so long people — important work but they waited so long. people have _ important work but they waited so long. people have a _ important work but they waited so long. people have a short - important work but they waited sol long. people have a short attention span and _ long. people have a short attention span and a — long. people have a short attention span and a year— long. people have a short attention span and a year and _ long. people have a short attention span and a year and a _ long. people have a short attention span and a year and a half- long. people have a short attention span and a year and a half after- long. people have a short attention span and a year and a half after an| span and a year and a half after an event— span and a year and a half after an event happens. _ span and a year and a half after an event happens, with— span and a year and a half after an event happens, with all— span and a year and a half after an event happens, with all that - span and a year and a half after an event happens, with all that is - span and a year and a half after an| event happens, with all that is also happened _ event happens, with all that is also happened in— event happens, with all that is also happened in the _ event happens, with all that is also happened in the interim, _ event happens, with all that is also happened in the interim, and- event happens, with all that is also happened in the interim, and a - happened in the interim, and a mid-term— happened in the interim, and a mid—term coming— happened in the interim, and a mid—term coming up— happened in the interim, and a mid—term coming up in - happened in the interim, and a mid—term coming up in 28 - happened in the interim, and a. mid—term coming up in 28 days, happened in the interim, and a- mid—term coming up in 28 days, no matter— mid—term coming up in 28 days, no matter how— mid—term coming up in 28 days, no matter how good _ mid—term coming up in 28 days, no matter how good a _ mid—term coming up in 28 days, no matter how good a job _ mid—term coming up in 28 days, no matter how good a job that - mid—term coming up in 28 days, no matter how good a job that this - matter how good a job that this committee _ matter how good a job that this committee did, _ matter how good a job that this committee did, whether- matter how good a job that this committee did, whether you i matter how good a job that this . committee did, whether you think they did _ committee did, whether you think they did a — committee did, whether you think they did a good _ committee did, whether you think they did a good job _ committee did, whether you think they did a good job or— committee did, whether you think they did a good job or not, - committee did, whether you think they did a good job or not, people have _ they did a good job or not, people have a _ they did a good job or not, people have a lot — they did a good job or not, people have a lot else _ they did a good job or not, people have a lot else going _ they did a good job or not, people have a lot else going on _ they did a good job or not, people have a lot else going on right- have a lot else going on right now and so _ have a lot else going on right now and so i _ have a lot else going on right now and so i think— have a lot else going on right now and so i think they— have a lot else going on right now and so i think they could - have a lot else going on right now and so i think they could have - have a lot else going on right now. and so i think they could have done this a _ and so i think they could have done this a lot _ and so i think they could have done this a lot faster— and so i think they could have done this a lot faster and _ and so i think they could have done this a lot faster and had _ and so i think they could have done this a lot faster and had they - and so i think they could have done this a lot faster and had they made | this a lot faster and had they made it bipartisan— this a lot faster and had they made it bipartisan they _ this a lot faster and had they made it bipartisan they could _ this a lot faster and had they made it bipartisan they could have - this a lot faster and had they made it bipartisan they could have had i this a lot faster and had they made it bipartisan they could have had a i it bipartisan they could have had a much _ it bipartisan they could have had a much more — it bipartisan they could have had a much more high _ it bipartisan they could have had a much more high likelihood - it bipartisan they could have had a much more high likelihood of- it bipartisan they could have had a i much more high likelihood of success than it— much more high likelihood of success than it does— much more high likelihood of success than it does right _ much more high likelihood of success than it does right now. _ much more high likelihood of success than it does right now. let’s - much more high likelihood of success than it does right now.— than it does right now. let's get into it because _ than it does right now. let's get into it because in _ than it does right now. let's get into it because in the _ than it does right now. let's get into it because in the end - than it does right now. let's get into it because in the end this i than it does right now. let's get i into it because in the end this will all bejudged in the into it because in the end this will all be judged in the court of public opinion when the voters go to the polls in november and of course into a 24. i want to look at some research published today, from a poll conducted for cnn. in the competitive districts, so there are about 40 or 50 of those, democrat and republican voters were asked will your vote for a congressional candidate be made in order to send a

message that you support or oppose donald trump? 54% of democrats, a majority of democrats, say their vote in november in a mid—term will be to express opposition to the former present. 47% of republicans say they will be going to the polls to express their support. for the former present. and that is the point i think from brian, that you are making a little earlier. it has not changed the minds of republicans. amanda might have another view on what does to the democratic side of the ballot but for republicans it has not changed wholly their view. hie. for republicans it has not changed wholly their view.— for republicans it has not changed wholly their view. no, it hasn't and i would wholly their view. no, it hasn't and i would add — wholly their view. no, it hasn't and i would add some _ wholly their view. no, it hasn't and i would add some body _ wholly their view. no, it hasn't and i would add some body who - wholly their view. no, it hasn't and i would add some body who knows| i would add some body who knows polling _ i would add some body who knows polling 47 — i would add some body who knows polling 47 is not high number. you want _ polling 47 is not high number. you want that— polling 47 is not high number. you want that to — polling 47 is not high number. you want that to be in the mid—70s, not 54% on _ want that to be in the mid—70s, not 54% on the — want that to be in the mid—70s, not 54% on the democratic side. i think they did _ 54% on the democratic side. i think they did a _ 54% on the democratic side. i think they did a bad job of delivering what _ they did a bad job of delivering what they promised. when you fail to deliver— what they promised. when you fail to deliver what you promised voters see through— deliver what you promised voters see through it _ deliver what you promised voters see through it and the only compelling thing _ through it and the only compelling thing today was subpoena donald

trump _ thing today was subpoena donald trump to— thing today was subpoena donald trump to testify. they could have asked _ trump to testify. they could have asked him — trump to testify. they could have asked him months ago at they needed something _ asked him months ago at they needed something dramatic to account for today's— something dramatic to account for today's committee. if that is what they have — today's committee. if that is what they have voters have tuned out alreadv — they have voters have tuned out alread . �* ., ,., they have voters have tuned out alread . �* ., , ., , already. i'm not so sure that 54 is not hiuh already. i'm not so sure that 54 is not high number _ already. i'm not so sure that 54 is not high number in _ already. i'm not so sure that 54 is not high number in a _ already. i'm not so sure that 54 is not high number in a mid-term i already. i'm not so sure that 54 is i not high number in a mid-term when not high number in a mid—term when they're not voting for a presenter or candidate, amanda. donald trump certainly activates the democratic base. . �* . certainly activates the democratic base. . �* , ., , certainly activates the democratic base. . �*, ., , ., base. that's right, he does activate the democratic _ base. that's right, he does activate the democratic base _ base. that's right, he does activate the democratic base but _ base. that's right, he does activate the democratic base but it - base. that's right, he does activate the democratic base but it is - base. that's right, he does activate the democratic base but it is really| the democratic base but it is really important to understand that it is actually a data point of extreme. so partly what is going on is to have been cases like reproductive rights for women that are higher as instances of proving the candidates votes are running against a truly extreme and nothing that you've seen before. but this is the backdrop that validates the fact that those candidates that are backed by trump fall into that category because trump is associated with something so unprecedented in this country. i don't believe that it doesn't show

up don't believe that it doesn't show up but there are more extreme things now that are moving voters that actually affect their daily lives in real ways that is actually polling higher than a 54%, particularly around women's rights. we saw in kansasin around women's rights. we saw in kansas in real time and voters actually moving their vote because of that. and so i think it is important tojust put of that. and so i think it is important to just put it in there that this is a validating point but maybe not as big any more are some of the real—time things that people are facing any glimmer every day. joe, brown made a really good point though, whether or not this damage is his ability to run in 2024, you can understand why republicans are turning on what the committee is putting out there now. but in 2024 there is gonna be a stable of republican candidates who are going to pick up some this stuff because this is the stuff that they will defeat him with.— this is the stuff that they will defeat him with. right. i also wonder if— defeat him with. right. i also wonder if democrats - defeat him with. right. i also wonder if democrats are i defeat him with. right. i also i wonder if democrats are almost defeat him with. right. i also -

wonder if democrats are almost want to run— wonder if democrats are almost want to run against— wonder if democrats are almost want to run against donald _ wonder if democrats are almost want to run against donald trump, - wonder if democrats are almost want to run against donald trump, who i l to run against donald trump, who i don't _ to run against donald trump, who i don't personally— to run against donald trump, who i don't personally think— to run against donald trump, who i don't personally think can - to run against donald trump, who i don't personally think can win i to run against donald trump, who i don't personally think can win a i don't personally think can win a national— don't personally think can win a national election— don't personally think can win a national election again. - don't personally think can win a national election again. i- don't personally think can win a i national election again. i almost wonder— national election again. i almost wonder if— national election again. i almost wonder if the _ national election again. i almost wonder if the choice _ national election again. i almost wonder if the choice whether i national election again. i almost wonder if the choice whether to| wonder if the choice whether to indict _ wonder if the choice whether to indict him. _ wonder if the choice whether to indict him, which _ wonder if the choice whether to indict him, which of— wonder if the choice whether to indict him, which of course i wonder if the choice whether to i indict him, which of course should be made — indict him, which of course should be made completely— indict him, which of course should be made completely without i indict him, which of course should i be made completely without political considerations, _ be made completely without political considerations, but _ be made completely without political considerations, but i _ be made completely without political considerations, but i have _ be made completely without political considerations, but i have to - be made completely without political considerations, but i have to wonder| considerations, but i have to wonder people _ considerations, but i have to wonder people in— considerations, but i have to wonder people in the — considerations, but i have to wonder people in the battle _ considerations, but i have to wonder people in the battle of— considerations, but i have to wonder people in the battle of minds- considerations, but i have to wonder people in the battle of minds are i people in the battle of minds are thinking — people in the battle of minds are thinking you _ people in the battle of minds are thinking you know _ people in the battle of minds are thinking you know what, - people in the battle of minds are thinking you know what, if - people in the battle of minds are thinking you know what, if we i people in the battle of minds are i thinking you know what, if we indict him that— thinking you know what, if we indict him that might _ thinking you know what, if we indict him that might be _ thinking you know what, if we indict him that might be justice, - thinking you know what, if we indict him that might be justice, we - thinking you know what, if we indictj him that might be justice, we might pursue _ him that might be justice, we might pursue justice _ him that might be justice, we might pursue justice. but— him that might be justice, we might pursue justice. but if— him that might be justice, we might pursue justice. but if we _ him that might be justice, we might pursue justice. but if we don't- pursue justice. but if we don't indict — pursue justice. but if we don't indict him _ pursue justice. but if we don't indict him we _ pursue justice. but if we don't indict him we have _ pursue justice. but if we don't indict him we have him - pursue justice. but if we don't indict him we have him to i pursue justice. but if we don't indict him we have him to run| indict him we have him to run against — indict him we have him to run againstand— indict him we have him to run against and you _ indict him we have him to run against and you know, - indict him we have him to run against and you know, we i indict him we have him to runj against and you know, we can regurgitate _ against and you know, we can regurgitate all— against and you know, we can regurgitate all these - against and you know, we can regurgitate all these things i against and you know, we can. regurgitate all these things that the committee _ regurgitate all these things that the committee has _ regurgitate all these things that the committee has uncovered i regurgitate all these things that l the committee has uncovered and regurgitate all these things that i the committee has uncovered and we can revisit _ the committee has uncovered and we can revisit january— the committee has uncovered and we can revisit january the _ the committee has uncovered and we can revisit january the 6th _ the committee has uncovered and we can revisit january the 6th again - can revisit january the 6th again and we — can revisit january the 6th again and we can_ can revisit january the 6th again and we can talk— can revisit january the 6th again and we can talk about _ can revisit january the 6th again and we can talk about the - can revisit january the 6th again and we can talk about the chaos can revisit january the 6th again - and we can talk about the chaos that he sirew _ and we can talk about the chaos that he sirew after— and we can talk about the chaos that he strew after his _ and we can talk about the chaos that he strew after his term. _ and we can talk about the chaos that he strew after his term. and - and we can talk about the chaos that he strew after his term. and during i he strew after his term. and during his time _ he strew after his term. and during his time so — he strew after his term. and during his time so it— he strew after his term. and during his time. so it will— he strew after his term. and during his time. so it will be _ he strew after his term. and during his time. so it will be really- his time. so it will be really interesting _ his time. so it will be really interesting to— his time. so it will be really interesting to see - his time. so it will be really interesting to see how- his time. so it will be really interesting to see how the. his time. so it will be really- interesting to see how the legal interplay— interesting to see how the legal interplay is _ interesting to see how the legal interplay is with _ interesting to see how the legal interplay is with the _ interesting to see how the legal interplay is with the political - interesting to see how the legal. interplay is with the political here and interplay is with the political here ahd my— interplay is with the political here and my guess _ interplay is with the political here and my guess is _ interplay is with the political here and my guess is that _ interplay is with the political here and my guess is that the - interplay is with the political here and my guess is that the story i interplay is with the political here and my guess is that the story is| and my guess is that the story is not over— and my guess is that the story is not over with _ and my guess is that the story is not over with this _ and my guess is that the story is not over with this last _ and my guess is that the story is not over with this last final- not over with this last final hearing _ not over with this last final hearing of— not over with this last final hearing of the _ not over with this last final hearing of the committee. | not over with this last final- hearing of the committee. ”that not over with this last final hearing of the committee. that is where we must _ hearing of the committee. that is where we must leave _ hearing of the committee. that is where we must leave it. - hearing of the committee. that is where we must leave it. amanda | where we must leave it. amanda renteria, bryan lanza, joe moreno

thank you. the committee has said that this pain of non—trump will come in a matter of days. we will see how he responds to that. —— that the subpoena of donald trump. hello. across large parts of the uk there is by weather round of glorious guys for most of the day in wales. that is how snowdonia looked earlier on and first clear blue sunny skies. temperatures widely were around two or three celsius above the regional average. the october averages about 15. it wasn't like that everywhere, across western scotland the rain started to move in across the afternoon and here temperatures were much closer to average for the time of year. here is friday's weather picture. a cold front moves southwards. one or two spots of light, patchy rain further south and

showers and first scotland and northern ireland, also spells of sunshine here. another mild day for england and wales, temperatures peaking at 18 degrees but further northwards i2 peaking at 18 degrees but further northwards 12 or 13, much closer to average for the time of year and the reason we seeing those temperature contrasts across the uk over recent daysis contrasts across the uk over recent days is because of the jet stream. jet stream running across the uk and it is powered by temperature contrast, the cool air in scotland and the relatively milder air on the southern side of the jet in england and wales. the contrast will continue for a time yet. i deny, more rain in the forecast. it looks like it will be heavier, working into northern ireland, western areas of scotland later in the night. cooler conditions, temperatures in single figures across the north but still ten to 12 in england and wales. an optically cold for october. the weekend continues to see areas of low pressure form to our west and bring pulses of rain across the uk. also quite windy for across the uk. also quite windy for a time as well. saturday starts off with rain early in the morning, it

clears out of the way. then we will start to see showers move in. it looks critically widespread across western areas, some heavy with models of thunder and a windy day as well with gusts of wind running into the forties miles an hour. mouth england and wales, temperatures of anything below average in parts of scotland. sunday, nota anything below average in parts of scotland. sunday, not a bad start to the day with morning sunshine. mist and fog patches clearing but this time we see an area of heavier rain working into wales and northern ireland and perhaps southern scotland seen that rain is into the afternoon. similar temperatures for england and wales, cooler air continuing to flow across scotland. let's take a look at the jet stream pattern and this weekend we have got a very big trough in the central atlantic, that is what is forming our areas of low pressure, then pinging them across the uk. sometimes these troughs get so big that they break down and that is what is going to happen early next week with a cut—off low for me to the rest of the uk. we get this

ridge of high pressure building somewhere just ridge of high pressure building somewherejust over the ridge of high pressure building somewhere just over the uk. ridge of high pressure building somewherejust over the uk. that ridge of high pressure building somewhere just over the uk. that is significant because what happens early next week is that ridge builds this area of high pressure to the north—east of the country, low pressure staying to the south—west. we are going to get a north—east, south—west split. a lot of dry weather across parts. by and large it is drier with some sunny spells. towards the south—west in contrast to that it will be quite windy at times and often we will see lots of showers running through on the brisk winds or even some lengthy spells of rain. we will see pretty big changes with the weather picture into the early part of next week. goodbye.

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