down towards norfolk, and a few more snow showers in northern parts of scotland. it won't be as windy here as it has been, but for all of us, it's going to be another cold day. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. at least four people have died trying to cross the channel at night, in freexing temperatures. 460 people have made the same journey across the channel in less than a week — the uk government is under pressure to act faster. us lawmakers have proposed a ban on the chinese—owned tiktok over national security concerns. and morocco give france the fright of their lives in the world cup semi finals. tonight with the context, political analyst dahlia scheindlin and former federal prosecutorjoe moreno.

welcome to the programme. it was one of the coldest nights of the year, but unusually the waters in the english channel were relatively calm, the sort of night that encourages people smugglers to load these flimsy boats, with desperate human cargo. just imagine the horror of being out there in the dark, three in the morning, as the dinghy begins to sink. there are distressing images from the start. luckily for them, at least most of them, a fishing crew came upon them and managed to raise the alarm. the coastguard say four people drowned, at least 30 were hauled to safety, some were in the water, many of them dressed only in t—shirts and thin life jackets. its a credit to the fishing crew that so many were saved. but the home secretary warned that next time, it could be so much worse. this morning's tragedy, like the loss of 27 people on one november day last year,

was the most sobering reminder possible of why we have to end these crossings. we recently agreed the largest ever small boats deal with france with more boots on the ground patrolling their beaches. uk and french officers working together in both countries. since friday 460 people have made thatjourney from france to kent, adding to the 16,000 that have crossed this year. just yesterday the prime minister set out a five point plan, to increase the patrols, and reduce the number of albanians now crossing. but natalie elphicke the conservative mp for dover told the bbc, that what is needed now is even greater collaboration with france. the bottom line as i have said to the prime minister and raised in parliament yesterday is the key to finishing this problem to bringing the end to the small boats crossings

is a summit with the french president that was see joint patrols on the beaches in france, in much greater numbers to tackle it address the people smuggling and also a joint channel patrol to stop incidents happening or to see fewer incidents happening like the tragedy we have seen today. we are joined by kevin saunders, former chief immigration 0fficer at the uk border force. thank you for being with us the prime minister yesterday announced there will be a small boat task force to patrol channel with an extra 700 officers. will that stop a repeat of what was on today? know. nothin: repeat of what was on today? know. nothing will — repeat of what was on today? know. nothing will stop _ repeat of what was on today? know. nothing will stop a _ repeat of what was on today? know. nothing will stop a repeat. - repeat of what was on today? know. nothing will stop a repeat. it - repeat of what was on today? know. nothing will stop a repeat. it will. nothing will stop a repeat. it will only stop if we can stop the small boats coming and that is not going to be done by increasing it by 700 people i am afraid. it to be done by increasing it by 700 people i am afraid.— people i am afraid. it has been suggested _ people i am afraid. it has been suggested by _ people i am afraid. it has been suggested by said _ people i am afraid. it has been suggested by said disrupting . people i am afraid. it has been i suggested by said disrupting the smuggler gangs operating off of the french beaches. it is

smuggler gangs operating off of the french beaches.— french beaches. it is very difficult to olice french beaches. it is very difficult to police the _ french beaches. it is very difficult to police the french _ french beaches. it is very difficult to police the french beaches. - french beaches. it is very difficult to police the french beaches. the problem is that the migrants had changed tactics, they are no longer rushing down to the sea carrying the boats and jumping on them. the boat is now being brought to 100 yards or so off of the beach in the water, and then the my grades are encouraged tojump into and then the my grades are encouraged to jump into the sea onto the boat. —— migrants that is to stop the french police from interfering with them. fit, stop the french police from interfering with them.- stop the french police from interfering with them. a lot of these peeple _ interfering with them. a lot of these people at _ interfering with them. a lot of these people at the _ interfering with them. a lot of these people at the moment, | interfering with them. a lot of. these people at the moment, the prime minister made reference to this yesterday, are albanians. last year they were barely 3%. he is talking about speeding up the processing, faster returns, how realistic is that?—

realistic is that? that is quite possible- _ realistic is that? that is quite possible. we _ realistic is that? that is quite possible. we had _ realistic is that? that is quite possible. we had the - realistic is that? that is quite possible. we had the same i realistic is that? that is quite i possible. we had the same sort realistic is that? that is quite - possible. we had the same sort of problem in the early to thousands and we operated something called a detained casework unit. so we detained casework unit. so we detained everyone, sending the asylum people, take a single claim and when that claim is rejected, they are removed straightaway. {line they are removed straightaway. one roblem they are removed straightaway. one problem with that, is that we were then part of the eu and post break that we do not have a return policy with the european union union who have travelled from a safe country. i read today britain has not deported a single chain on my great despite must of them coming from france. ., ., ., ., ., france. you are never going to move them from _ france. you are never going to move them from france _ france. you are never going to move them from france even _ france. you are never going to move them from france even when - france. you are never going to move them from france even when we - france. you are never going to movel them from france even when we were in the eeo, it was impossible because they destroy their documentation and

unless they have a travel document. -- eu. unless they have a travel document. —— eu. so by destroying their documents before they get to the uk they know they are virtually safe. thank you much for that. before i bring jo and dahlia in on this, i want to compare the situation here, with what is going on at the border in el paso texas. where there has been a huge surge of illegal crossings, 2,400 a day in the past week, which coincides with the pending termination of asylum rules, introduced by donald trump. title 42 was introduced to stop the spread of covid 19. that order allows authorities to swiftly expel migrants at the us border before they can request asylum. the rule is due to expire next wednesday, 19 republican led states are asking a federal appeals court to extend it. joe, you can write the same story with the same headline, not enough

border staff, secure accommodation, squalid condition for those health, long delays for people who apply for the right to remain. is there any way that our two countries could do it any better? it’s way that our two countries could do it any better?— it any better? it's heartbreaking it is amazin: it any better? it's heartbreaking it is amazing that _ it any better? it's heartbreaking it is amazing that all _ it any better? it's heartbreaking it is amazing that all countries - it any better? it's heartbreaking it is amazing that all countries are i is amazing that all countries are facing _ is amazing that all countries are facing a similar situation. i understand that there are many people — understand that there are many people who believe in the us, we are a nation _ people who believe in the us, we are a nation of— people who believe in the us, we are a nation of immigrants, and the people — a nation of immigrants, and the people who want to come here for the american _ people who want to come here for the american dream should be allowed to do so _ american dream should be allowed to do so our_ american dream should be allowed to do so. our legal immigration system is too _ do so. 0ur legal immigration system is too slow— do so. our legal immigration system is too slow and therefore we should let in _ is too slow and therefore we should let in people. it is extremely dangerous though, it is not a humane system _ dangerous though, it is not a humane system to— dangerous though, it is not a humane system to encourage people or to turn a — system to encourage people or to turn a blind eye to illegal immigration, because it encourages squalon _ immigration, because it encourages squalon it_ immigration, because it encourages squalor. it encourages dangerous situations — squalor. it encourages dangerous situations. so we want to figure out a system _ situations. so we want to figure out a system to— situations. so we want to figure out a system to welcome people the right way. a system to welcome people the right way i_ a system to welcome people the right way ithink— a system to welcome people the right way. i think that is where both sides— way. i think that is where both sides of— way. i think that is where both sides of the political spectrum in this country are so far apart. we

rcatty— this country are so far apart. we really need _ this country are so far apart. we really need to do a betterjob of figuring — really need to do a betterjob of figuring out how to address this in a way— figuring out how to address this in a way that— figuring out how to address this in a way that is humane, that preserves the history— a way that is humane, that preserves the history of this country which is to welcome — the history of this country which is to welcome immigration but to do it legaliy— to welcome immigration but to do it legally and safely. as to welcome immigration but to do it legally and safely.— legally and safely. as joe says, it is politically _ legally and safely. as joe says, it is politically divisive, _ legally and safely. as joe says, it is politically divisive, insoluble i is politically divisive, insoluble and one reason is even if you cited with the humanitarian organisations who say we need more legal routes for people to come into the country, people who are rejected and turned around as we see in el paso they do not go home, they do not want to go home with able to try again. i not go home, they do not want to go home with able to try again.- home with able to try again. i think it is interesting _ home with able to try again. i think it is interesting that _ home with able to try again. i think it is interesting that the _ home with able to try again. i think it is interesting that the biden - it is interesting that the biden administration itself has had a hard time keeping up with developments they have also wanted to extend for a while, even though the administration would like to be more welcoming. 0f administration would like to be more welcoming. of my grades and i think it is a matter of the overall policy and i want to zoom out, because as joe said, america does have a history of being a country that

welcomes immigrants. i also do not think it helps to ignore the problems that face immigrants and local communities. when society is overwhelmed because of poor reception. i do think that we ultimately have to think long term. why are migrants coming at such an enormous rate? that has to do bigger global issues there is the domestic issue, we want these people and find the domestic route in america should be one of those but it has to do with understanding global politics people are migrating because of conflict places like syria, ukraine, ethiopia and of course due to authoritarian regimes, lack of economic opportunities in the countries. that's why you have albanians crossing. these have to do with international coordination of her recommitment to to the extent that other countries can play a role in that and understanding how global economic development affect these flows in the long run. i know that will not help problems tomorrow, i

agree that there is no point in ignoring difficulties that the community faces when overwhelmed by think if we do not think long term now, the problem will continue. we will not see a slowdown of global migration. . will not see a slowdown of global miaration. , , migration. . title 42, it is still in lace migration. . title 42, it is still in place until— migration. . title 42, it is still in place until wednesday - migration. . title 42, it is still in place until wednesday but. migration. . title 42, it is still i in place until wednesday but you have to have a channel for people to apply legally for asylum and there will be people coming to the border who have a right to apply for asylum. at the same time, if you do not have border staff in place he did not have asylum accommodation for these people, that problem will be exacerbated once you relax the law. ,, ., , ., , , law. sure, and this has been broadcasted _ law. sure, and this has been broadcasted for _ law. sure, and this has been broadcasted for a _ law. sure, and this has been broadcasted for a long - law. sure, and this has been broadcasted for a long time. j law. sure, and this has been - broadcasted for a long time. the people _ broadcasted for a long time. the people know that there is a change in the _ people know that there is a change in the law— people know that there is a change in the law coming and most likely the number that we saw this past year which — the number that we saw this past year which was 2.3 million encounters of noncitizens at the border — encounters of noncitizens at the border is — encounters of noncitizens at the border is set to double after the expiration — border is set to double after the expiration of title 42. so it is a

problem — expiration of title 42. so it is a problem that is only going to get worse _ problem that is only going to get worse so— problem that is only going to get worse. so i agree, there is no easy fix but _ worse. so i agree, there is no easy fix but the — worse. so i agree, there is no easy fix but the biden administration has to acknowledge that there is a problem — to acknowledge that there is a problem here and first informants before _ problem here and first informants before they try to push comprehensive immigration reform, increase _ comprehensive immigration reform, increase budget requirements, they need to— increase budget requirements, they need to acknowledge that there is a problem _ need to acknowledge that there is a problem at the border in the first order of— problem at the border in the first order of business should be to secure — order of business should be to secure the border.— secure the border. difficult for this country — secure the border. difficult for this country and _ secure the border. difficult for this country and for— secure the border. difficult for this country and for america i secure the border. difficult for. this country and for america and plenty of other european countries. let's look at some of the other stories making headlines today. china has removed six diplomats from britain after an incident in october, when they were involved in a violent scuffle with pro—democracy protestors outside the country's consulate in manchester. the officials — including the consul—general — refused to waive their diplomatic immunity and be questioned by police. president biden says the us should feel "societal guilt" for not taking more action to address gun violence — as he marked today the ten year anniversary of the sandy hook shooting 20 children, first graders, all of them six seven years old lost their lives as well as six teachers.

jenny hubard's daughter catherine was one of those who died. whether she is here physically or here in spirit, she will always be my daughter. while i would love to know what it is like to have a fiery redhead 16—year—old, that is not the reality for me. hard to listen to that and i suspect that every parent in america shares that every parent in america shares that pain today. you have a big family, i wonder when you drop the kids off at school from time to time that event goes through your mind? i don't think there is a another issue in which _ don't think there is a another issue in which we — don't think there is a another issue in which we are so politically defined _ in which we are so politically defined in this country than gun control~ — defined in this country than gun control. we should all be able to

agree _ control. we should all be able to agree that — control. we should all be able to agree that dangerous instruments of war should _ agree that dangerous instruments of war should not be allowed in peoples hands _ war should not be allowed in peoples hands where they can be used to injure _ hands where they can be used to injure children or anyone and yet for decades we have struggled with the inability to address the situation. so it is very scary, every time _ situation. so it is very scary, every time you think about something like this— every time you think about something like this happening. again, an issue that really. — like this happening. again, an issue that really, really we are not portraying ourselves a very well in this country by being unable to find some _ this country by being unable to find some middle ground to address the scourge _ some middle ground to address the scourge of— some middle ground to address the scourge of gun violence.— some middle ground to address the scourge of gun violence. sandy hook was supposed _ scourge of gun violence. sandy hook was supposed to _ scourge of gun violence. sandy hook was supposed to be _ scourge of gun violence. sandy hook was supposed to be a _ scourge of gun violence. sandy hook was supposed to be a watershed - was supposed to be a watershed moment. it probably was the most difficult moment in president 0bama's time in office. but we have had so many since, santa fe, ufology and there will be many more. i had so many since, santa fe, ufology and there will be many more.- and there will be many more. i think the sandy hook _ and there will be many more. i think the sandy hook attack _ and there will be many more. i think the sandy hook attack was - and there will be many more. i think the sandy hook attack was a - and there will be many more. i try “ya; the sandy hook attack was a breaking point for me personally as american when i realise after that congress was unable to pass bipartisan

legislation. in several attempts after that, or gotten regulation. legislation. in several attempts afterthat, or gotten regulation. i disagree with joe afterthat, or gotten regulation. i disagree withjoe because i do not think americans are as divided as he is implying on certain aspects of gun regulation that regularly show sweeping majorities in favour of things like background checks. the proof is that, from the different law centre who was shot in one of these law centres, there have been 525 pieces of legislation at the state level in the last ten years since sandy hook. that means states themselves and they pointed out, all of the states have adopted at least one. that means there is plenty of support for it, it is doable. it is also encouraging that the sum of the us did manage to pass its first package of federal regulations although i would say it was a gun deterrent package rather than regulation, not even nearly enough compared to what is needed as we see people keep dying since then as well. the fact that most regulations

haveit well. the fact that most regulations have it simply saying this be done. but not enough to defend schools? she has a great point at the state level_ she has a great point at the state level perhaps it is more encouraging but at _ level perhaps it is more encouraging but at the _ level perhaps it is more encouraging but at the federal level it seems hopeless — but at the federal level it seems hopeless. we cannot get even an assault— hopeless. we cannot get even an assault weapons ban that we had in this country— assault weapons ban that we had in this country for a decorated and lapsed — this country for a decorated and lapsed in — this country for a decorated and lapsed in the early 2000. with that address— lapsed in the early 2000. with that address every situation, of course not, _ address every situation, of course not. the _ address every situation, of course not, the ultimate problem here is mentally— not, the ultimate problem here is mentally ill or criminal individuals who get— mentally ill or criminal individuals who get weapons of destruction and sometimes they are not just firearms they can _ sometimes they are not just firearms they can be _ sometimes they are not just firearms they can be sharp our drops, blades, that is— they can be sharp our drops, blades, that is the _ they can be sharp our drops, blades, that is the ultimate problem. but it seems _ that is the ultimate problem. but it seems like — that is the ultimate problem. but it seems like we are so far apart in reaching — seems like we are so far apart in reaching a— seems like we are so far apart in reaching a federal level solution, it is really— reaching a federal level solution, it is really discouraging. thoughts with the families _ it is really discouraging. thoughts with the families connected - it is really discouraging. thoughts with the families connected with i with the families connected with sandy hook today. terrible incident ten years ago on this very day. the republican senator marco rubio has introduced bi partisan legislation to ban tik tok from the us.

he has expressed concerns, shared by others in congress, that the app could be used by china to spy on americans. in the last few week republican governors in at least 10 states have banned tik tok on government devices. it the second—most downloaded app in the united states. the parent company is bytedance a chinese tech firm which is now subject to a national security review. tik tok say their platform operates separately to the chinese version dah—win. "it is troubling said the company that rather than encouraging the administration to conclude its national security review some members of congress have decided to push for a political motivated ban that will do nothing to advance the national security of the us." we can speak to alex stamos — who co—founded the cybersecurity consulting firm krebs stamos. welcome to the programme. what are the concerns about where the data goes that tik tok gathers and what can it be used for? so goes that tik tok gathers and what can it be used for?—

goes that tik tok gathers and what can it be used for? so what tik tok is a version — can it be used for? so what tik tok is a version of _ can it be used for? so what tik tok is a version of the _ can it be used for? so what tik tok is a version of the product - can it be used for? so what tik tok is a version of the product that - can it be used for? so what tik tok is a version of the product that is i is a version of the product that is run outside of the people's republic of china and one thing that has become clear is that the core engineering and operations teams that run tik tok are still in beijing. the data is technically not stored in china, but the data for tik tok users globally are available to employees in beijing who are under control of the people's republic of china and therefore can be influenced by the state security and other parts of the chinese government that have been caught stealing data from western companies in the past. so to concerts, about private information that can be gathered and that a broader concern about influence that tik tok is the second most downloaded, second—most used at by a number of minutes per day after youtube in the us and has become a court source of news for really young people. tik tok is a purely algorithmic driven app. it is not really based on friends and

follows like you would see from facebook, and scream, twitter as a result they have a huge of a power in deciding what people see next. there is concern where a chinese influence is trying to being pushed into the blast that tik tok can be forced to use their algorithms to downgrade western voices and to upgrade and algorithmically push forces from the people's republic of china. 50 forces from the people's republic of china. ~' forces from the people's republic of china. ~ ~ , china. so tik tok in america says the t china. so tik tok in america says they try to _ china. so tik tok in america says they try to bring _ china. so tik tok in america says they try to bring back _ china. so tik tok in america says they try to bring back some - china. so tik tok in america says| they try to bring back some trust, reassure people,. so we know the communist party mandates it should have access to any records of a state company are there examples of that that congress will look at? yes like ou that that congress will look at? yes like you said _ that that congress will look at? jazz like you said tik tok has been working with oracle to find different data centres to host. but in the and the physical location of

the data does not matter. what matters is who has access to it. as long as the core work to design and operate tik tok happens in beijing, then us and other western nation like the uk and other allies cannot west easy. there are other companies like this, tik tok is very popular but is not used for important stuff yet. the majority of content is find content, things teenagers like to watch, transit things. there's not a lot of news, not a tonne of propaganda and people generally do not use it to communicate with sensitive issues. for me and even more important platform is via chat. it is like whatsapp people conduct their entire live on their and it is extremely popular around the world among the chinese diaspora because it is one of the ways he could stay in touch. there's multiple examples of wechat being used as a tool of

control to see what chinese citizens and their family members control to see what chinese citizens and theirfamily members do in the us, and their family members do in the us, uk, and theirfamily members do in the us, uk, eu. and much more sensitive things happens on wechat that is the app that i would look at first. marco rubio saying as he is taking unilateral action because of a decision that is not yet resolved but do you think some of this is political? it but do you think some of this is olitical? . , , but do you think some of this is olitical? ., , , , .., , political? it has been because the trump administration _ political? it has been because the trump administration made - political? it has been because the trump administration made it - political? it has been because thej trump administration made it into such a _ trump administration made it into such a major theme but it is interesting on some level that this particular— interesting on some level that this particular bill seems to have bipartisan support in the house. | bipartisan support in the house. i do bipartisan support in the house. do not have bipartisan support in the house. i do not have far it will get but there seems to be some sort of admission that there is a concern and it is not the first the first time the biden administration has expressed concern about china's and mobility through technology to spy on americans. i was reminded of a deal that sounds related but after

the abraham are and they were supposed to be selling planes to the ea you but one was a similar concern that the technology was too close to where that plane may be it may be able to spy on the technology inside of them. but i think it was a political issue certain land of the trump ministership but there seems to be more acknowledgement know the biden and ministration shares concerns. jen biden and ministration shares concerns. , . biden and ministration shares concerns-— biden and ministration shares concerns. ., ., ., ,, concerns. jen c are totally obsessed with it it does _ concerns. jen c are totally obsessed with it it does all _ concerns. jen c are totally obsessed with it it does all my _ concerns. jen c are totally obsessed with it it does all my daughter- with it it does all my daughter looks at, every text i get from her is a tik tok video i am wondering how it will work when and politician say to the young people you cannot have that for national security reasons. i have that for national security reasons. ., ., . , reasons. i have enough concerns about social _ reasons. i have enough concerns about social media _ reasons. i have enough concerns about social media having - reasons. i have enough concerns| about social media having expose reasons. i have enough concerns - about social media having expose my children _ about social media having expose my children to _ about social media having expose my children to that _ about social media having expose my children to that stuff— about social media having expose my children to that stuff out _ about social media having expose my children to that stuff out there - about social media having expose my children to that stuff out there and i children to that stuff out there and what it _ children to that stuff out there and what it does — children to that stuff out there and what it does to _ children to that stuff out there and what it does to kids _ children to that stuff out there and what it does to kids and what - children to that stuff out there and what it does to kids and what it - what it does to kids and what it exposes them _ what it does to kids and what it exposes them to _ what it does to kids and what it exposes them to end _ what it does to kids and what it exposes them to end the - what it does to kids and what it . exposes them to end the dangers what it does to kids and what it - exposes them to end the dangers it brings _ exposes them to end the dangers it brings but — exposes them to end the dangers it brings but tik— exposes them to end the dangers it brings. but tik tok _ exposes them to end the dangers it brings. but tik tok will _ exposes them to end the dangers it

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they can actually definitively prove that that data is not being shared, j that that data is not being shared, they are _ that that data is not being shared, they are getting _ that that data is not being shared, they are getting dangerously- that that data is not being shared, j they are getting dangerously close to being _ they are getting dangerously close to being blocked _ they are getting dangerously close to being blocked in _ they are getting dangerously close to being blocked in this— they are getting dangerously close to being blocked in this country. . to being blocked in this country. thank— to being blocked in this country. thank you — to being blocked in this country. thank you for— to being blocked in this country. thank you for your— to being blocked in this country. thank you for your view - to being blocked in this country. thank you for your view on i to being blocked in this country. thank you for your view on that. china wasn't heading back today. china was hitting back today. in geneva the chinese ambassador to the wto called the united states "a destroyer of the multilateral trading sytem", "a bully... a disruptor of global supply chains". but united states is by no means the only country reassessing

its relationship with beijing. over in brussels, the european commission president ursula von der lyon, published a letter in which she speaks about tackle europe's over dependency on chinese raw materials, that linked to the green revolution. i am proposing she said "a raw materials club to overcome the chinese monopoly." we are starting to see a separation of the world economy into two halves. and the europeans, americans no longer want to depend on china for things like chips for their essential drugs, they want independence from china how far to psycho? i independence from china how far to -s cho? ~ , independence from china how far to .s cho? ~' , ., , . independence from china how far to -s cho? ~' , ., , . ., psycho? i think it is unrealistic to imaaine psycho? i think it is unrealistic to imagine that _ psycho? i think it is unrealistic to imagine that we _ psycho? i think it is unrealistic to imagine that we will _ psycho? i think it is unrealistic to imagine that we will have - psycho? i think it is unrealistic to imagine that we will have a i imagine that we will have a completely bisected economic world. we will not rollback that there's

too much into dependence to see that. there are geopolitical concerns here. i'm keeping a close eye on what china does vis—a—vis russia and i think we cannot leave that out, so far the world has been lucky that china has not appeared, as far as i know, as far as been reported, selling weapons to russia and that is a major factor in this war. we talk about the strip in global supply chains, the russian war in ukraine has been one of the major factors war in ukraine has been one of the majorfactors for war in ukraine has been one of the major factors for that. the last thing anyone needs is for china to use that kind of leverage to fight back. so right now it is worth and there will be policies behind it, it is a understandable need, but i think there are limits to how far these countries can ever develop something like you are talking about given the complete interdependence on the geopolitical level. but given the complete interdependence on the geopolitical level.— on the geopolitical level. but maybe the further evidence _ on the geopolitical level. but maybe the further evidence of _ on the geopolitical level. but maybe the further evidence of this - the further evidence of this geopolitical split is on display at

this three day summit at the white house at the moment. joe biden is hosting 50 african leaders. first time they have been invited since 2014. $55 billion for africa over the next three years. the administration is mant this is not about coercing africa the to support the war in ukraine, but it certainly an overture to africa partly in response to their reaction to the war in ukraine? you come back to what she said about raw materials and how europe looks further afield for the things that it needs and the people that they look to our the african nations. i think it is easy at this oversimplify things and say, because of all of these dangers out there we will become more isolationist and do everything _ will become more isolationist and do everything internally and that is the wrong approach. globalisation has brought tremendous economic and cultural— has brought tremendous economic and cultural benefit in the last 50 years — cultural benefit in the last 50 years so _ cultural benefit in the last 50 years. so we will not go back but this is— years. so we will not go back but this is an — years. so we will not go back but this is an absolutely great opportunity to look at where we are

getting _ opportunity to look at where we are getting key components of things like semiconductors, like the components we need for electric vehicles — components we need for electric vehicles and if we are overly dependent on any country or region come _ dependent on any country or region come up _ dependent on any country or region come up regardless of the political issues _ come up regardless of the political issues that may exist, that is not a good thing — issues that may exist, that is not a good thing. so it is an opportunity for us to— good thing. so it is an opportunity for us to reassess where we are getting — for us to reassess where we are getting key components from around the world _ getting key components from around the world and figure out how we will fix this— the world and figure out how we will fix this not— the world and figure out how we will fix this not in the next six or 12 months but _ fix this not in the next six or 12 months but ten years. i think it is a great _ months but ten years. i think it is a great thing to be doing now. we�*ll a great thing to be doing now. we'll have to leave _ a great thing to be doing now. we'll have to leave it _ a great thing to be doing now. vii have to leave it there. no overtures from europe to africa france have just knock morocco out of the broke up just knock morocco out of the broke up we will talk but in the second half of the programme but we also talk about the nt facts movement in the us and uk extreme similarities from the rhetoric and we will talk about inflation which is coming down for that quickly enough. to stay with us.

hello again. the weather will change significantly this weekend. but before then, we've got a few more days where we're still in this very cold air — and that means more frost and potentially more icy conditions and some more snow as well, in particular across scotland. and that's where we're seeing most of the snow showers at the moment, continuing overnight, significant falls again over the hills. a few more snow showers will affect northern parts of northern ireland, and we'll see the back of most of the showers along those north sea coasts, but they may well return to the northeast, leading to some icy conditions. clearer skies, widespread sharp frost temperatures — —7—8 in many places — and the misty low cloud that we've seen across southern parts of england and wales should have gone by tomorrow morning. many places will be dry tomorrow. a lot of winter sunshine, a few more wintry showers, northern parts of northern ireland, northeast england sliding down towards norfolk,

and some more snow for northern scotland. here, though, it won't be as windy as it's been just recently, but it's still going to be cold wherever you are on thursday. after that very frosty start, temperatures will struggle to get a couple of degrees above freezing. the northerly wind, though, is lessening, and into the cold air, we've got a weather system arriving on friday — and that could bring some significant snow to scotland. some snow to lower levels in central southern scotland, a couple of centimetres, more over the hills, particularly north of the central belt, there could be 20 centimetres here. other parts of the uk may well be dry with some sunshine. very few wintry showers, still cold after another frosty and potentially icy start on friday. now, as we head into the weekend, we're still in cold air on saturday, some sunshine, maybe 1—2 wintry showers. but we're starting to see a southerly breeze picking up. ahead of this weather system, the game—changer sweeping up from the southwest — it's driving into cold air, so for a while on sunday, we'll see a spell of snow, particularly in the north.

for many, it'll turn back to rain because we've got a south—westerly wind pushing up — that'll be strengthening, bringing in milderairand pushing all that cold weather that we've got at the moment out of the way. so a particularly mild start to the early part of next week. temperatures may drop a little bit after that, but to nearer normal levels — not back to this really cold weather that we've got at the moment. lots of travel plans in the run—up to christmas. keep up to date with all the changes over the coming few days on our bbc weather app.

hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. the anti—vax movement finds a powerful ally in florida. governor ron desantis petitions the state's supreme court to investigate "wrongdoing" related to the vaccine roll—out. here in the uk, the conservative mp andrew bridgen makes similar unfounded claims, calling the mrna vaccines experimental. the fed raises interest rates, as it continues the battle against inflation. some signs in the uk we are past the peak, but november's figures still stubbornly high. in still stubbornly high. france will play argentina in 1 world in france will play argentina in the world cup final this weekend. tonight with the context,

political analyst dahlia scheindlin and former federal prosecutorjoe moreno. morocco's dreams of making it to the world cup are over. france beat them tonight just a few minutes ago. they will play argentina in the world cup final. mouthwatering prospect. sports presenter 0lly foster is in doha for us. so much has happened this world cup. it was so much more than that. yeah, and i to it was so much more than that. yeah, and i to -- — it was so much more than that. yeah, and i to -- a — it was so much more than that. yeah, and i to -- a2-0_ it was so much more than that. yeah, and i to -- a 2-0 when _ it was so much more than that. yeah, and i to -- a 2-0 when to _ it was so much more than that. yeah, and i to -- a 2-0 when to france. i and i to —— a 2—0 when to france. you have to feel sorry for morocco because they were not overall the one bit. they have broken so many

reputations of european grades from belgian to spain to portugal. but this was just one european great too many for them. france took a very early lead through fernandez�*s scrappy goal. killian mbappe had a shot deflected to him. they saw anton griezmann, and then this scissor kick for pharaoh fernandez, the fullback putting it away. it was 1-0 the fullback putting it away. it was 1—0 for a long time. it was only towards the last ten minutes of the game that the substitute randall milani, who ijust come out the bench, more brilliant work from mbappe. he beat two or three defenders. he weaved his way into the box, and that was a shot, but it deflected into the path of the whining, and it was 2— 02 the

french. morocco had hit a post to equalise. they were not overall in the slightest. the first time they had an african nation in the semifinals. so apt that this magnificent stadium is designed in the shape of a meadow intent to recognise instantly across the arab speaking world. —— a bedouin tent. vastly outnumbering the french. they have to lift themselves because it's not the end of the road. they have to pay the match that nobody wants to play. we try to forget about that one. the dreaded third, fourth playoff against croatia on the saturday at the khalifa international stadium. ijust hope international stadium. i just hope that international stadium. ijust hope that moroccan fans will pack that

out and give morocco a proper sendoff from here, because what they've done has been outstanding. but we won't talk about argentina and france. but we won't talk about argentina and france-— and france. come on, because it is... it and france. come on, because it is--- it is— and france. come on, because it is--- it is a _ and france. come on, because it is... it is a messi _ and france. come on, because it is... it is a messi and _ and france. come on, because it is... it is a messi and mbappe i is... it is a messi and mbappe final. is... it is a messi and mbappe final- mbappe _ is. .. it is a messi and mbappe final. mbappe has— is... it is a messi and mbappe final. mbappe has been i is... it is a messi and mbappe i final. mbappe has been fantastic. messi drifts _ final. mbappe has been fantastic. messi drifts in _ final. mbappe has been fantastic. messi drifts in and _ final. mbappe has been fantastic. messi drifts in and out _ final. mbappe has been fantastic. messi drifts in and out of- final. mbappe has been fantastic. messi drifts in and out of games. | messi drifts in and out of games. when he drifts back in, he's devastating.— when he drifts back in, he's devastatina. ~ , , ., , ., when he drifts back in, he's devastatina. ~ , , .,, ., devastating. mbappe has gone off the ball a bit. devastating. mbappe has gone off the ball a bit- he — devastating. mbappe has gone off the ball a bit. he hasn't— devastating. mbappe has gone off the ball a bit. he hasn't scored. _ ball a bit. he hasn't scored. england stifled in but left gaps open elsewhere. here, he did set up that second goal. he's fantastic. but lee and all messi has his nose in front on assists. —— lionel messi. people have been to all five of his world cups, i've been tojust three. he was a runner—up in brazil

eight years ago at the copacabana and we thought this could be his last chance. this at the age of 35, the 2022 messi, saying this is the best one they've ever seen. that is because after they beat croatia, this will be his last world cup. what a climax that is going to be. argentina going for their third title. the title then, and france going to back to back titles and no team has done that since brazil. back to back finals, brazil over the last team to do that 20 years ago. we've got more world cup milestones to look forward to, but it's mbappe and messi. it is the fitting final

that we really had been hoping for. and deed. will mbappe fill the void —— indeed. on two sides of the atlantic, there were two politicians talking yesterday about the very same issue — covid vaccines. here in london, conservative mp andrew bridgen was telling the house of commons that the media and the medical community are involved in some great conspiracy to hide the true facts and the dangers that mrna vaccines are posing to our health. there needs to be an immediate and complete suspension of any more covid vaccines and use of mrna technology. madam deputy speaker, silence on this issue is more contagious than the virus itself. i'd also now — so should courage be — and i would implore all the scientists, medics, nurses and those in the media, who know the truth about the harm these vaccines are causing to our people, to speak out. in florida, which is

the united states' third most populous state, the governor ron de santis was on a similar theme. in florida, it is against the law to mislead and misrepresent, particularly when you're talking about the efficacy of a drug. we've seenjust recently, florida got 3.2 billion through legal action against those responsible for the opioid crisis, and so it's not like this is something that's unprecedented. so, today, i'm announcing a petition with the supreme court of florida to impanel a state—wide grand jury to investigate any and all wrongdoing in florida with respect to covid—19 vaccines. like bridgen, ron de santis wants a investigation. his sights are set on the pharmaceutical companies, moderna, pfizer, and the medical advisers like dr anthony fauci and dr peter hotez, who promoted them.

anti—science aggression has now become — anti—science aggression has now become a — anti—science aggression has now become a major— anti—science aggression has now become a major killing _ anti—science aggression has now become a major killing force i become a major killing force globally _ become a major killing force globally. during _ become a major killing force globally. during the - become a major killing force i globally. during the pandemic in become a major killing force - globally. during the pandemic in the us, 200,000 — globally. during the pandemic in the us, 200,000 americans _ globally. during the pandemic in the us, 200,000 americans needlesslyj us, 200,000 americans needlessly lost their— us, 200,000 americans needlessly lost their lives— us, 200,000 americans needlessly lost their lives because _ us, 200,000 americans needlessly lost their lives because they- lost their lives because they refused _ lost their lives because they refused covid _ lost their lives because they refused covid vaccine, i lost their lives because they refused covid vaccine, even| lost their lives because they- refused covid vaccine, even after vaccines — refused covid vaccine, even after vaccines widely _ refused covid vaccine, even after vaccines widely available. - the deaths these politicians point to were largely caused by a heart problem, myocarditis. but here are some facts from recent studies. according to modelling from the yale school of public health, covid vaccines have prevented an estimated 3.2 million deaths and 18.5 million hospitalisations in the us. the american college of physicians reported that out of 7 million people who had an mrna vaccine under the age of 39, there were 224 cases of myocarditis mostly in young men, which means you were 0.0005% to suffer from it after one dose, and 0.002% likely to get it after the third.

doctor peter hotez joins doctor peter hotezjoins us now. how is it that this rhetoric sounds so similar? , ., ., �* , similar? first of all, it's important _ similar? first of all, it's important to _ similar? first of all, it'sj important to emphasise similar? first of all, it's i important to emphasise the similar? first of all, it's _ important to emphasise the benefits and effectiveness and safety these mrna vaccines have. what you see is the pivot of the anti—vaccine movement. that started a little more than 20 years ago, may be 25 years ago, around false claims that vaccines cause autism and i did a lot of work to debunk that because i have a daughter with autism. they did not because rachel's autism, which may be public enemy number one. they weren't monetising the internet quite as efficiently as they were, so they needed a new thing. this was about eight years ago, there became a political

movement linked to the far—right, initially the republican tea party initially the republican tea party in texas. that's what's taken off during this time of covid with disastrous consequences. not only has pointed out in the video made by the who that had my number they are of 200,000 americans lead living their lives —— needlessly losing their lives —— needlessly losing their lives, but in addition to that analysis by the health analyst overwhelmingly, those were conservative states, red counties, the lower the vaccination rate and the lower the vaccination rate and the higher the death rate. 50 the lower the vaccination rate and the higher the death rate.- the higher the death rate. so it's olitical the higher the death rate. so it's political cover _ the higher the death rate. so it's political cover for _ the higher the death rate. so it's political cover for the _ the higher the death rate. so it's political cover for the mistakes i political cover for the mistakes they made?— political cover for the mistakes the made? ~ , , they made? absolutely. this was the house freedom _ they made? absolutely. this was the house freedom caucus _ they made? absolutely. this was the house freedom caucus in _ they made? absolutely. this was the house freedom caucus in the - they made? absolutely. this was the house freedom caucus in the gop i house freedom caucus in the gop house freedom caucus in the gop house at their cpap conference. first they're going to vaccinate

you, then they're going to take away your guns in your bibles, and is ridiculous that sound, it was exemplified every night on fox news. 200,000 americans... i get exemplified every night on fox news. 200,000 americans. . ._ 200,000 americans... i get what ou're 200,000 americans... i get what you're saying _ 200,000 americans... i get what you're saying that _ 200,000 americans... i get what you're saying that it's _ 200,000 americans... i get what you're saying that it's linked i 200,000 americans... i get what you're saying that it's linked to i you're saying that it's linked to the tea party and some factions on the tea party and some factions on the hard right, but the fact of the matter is rhonda santos is sitting next to the surgeon general —— ron d santos. that gives it legs. even though he might be stating untruth, he's sitting next to the surgeon general —— desantis. he he's sitting next to the surgeon general -- desantis. he surrounded himself with — general -- desantis. he surrounded himself with medical _ general -- desantis. he surrounded himself with medical and _ general -- desantis. he surrounded himself with medical and health i himself with medical and health professionals who have gone down the rabbit hole with him in believing this nonsensical information. their common denominator is that they have no specific knowledge about vaccines

and no specific knowledge about virology. they're generalists and help the economist and touting false information about vaccinations, with. .. information about vaccinations, with... i normally wouldn't get exercise about this, but it's more than a theoretical construct. this is a deadly consequence. iflat than a theoretical construct. this is a deadly consequence.- is a deadly consequence. not to mention the _ is a deadly consequence. not to mention the anti-vax _ is a deadly consequence. not to i mention the anti-vax movement. mention the anti—vax movement. dolly, what do you make that the sort of rhetoric that we're hearing, seems to be coming from the right —— dahlia? i have to say, it's certainly not unique — i have to say, it's certainly not unique to— i have to say, it's certainly not unique to the us, but the us have exported — unique to the us, but the us have exported all over the world. it harms — exported all over the world. it harms people twice. it puts a metaphysical risk. it also creates a disorder— metaphysical risk. it also creates a disorder of— metaphysical risk. it also creates a

disorder of viral information, poison, _ disorder of viral information, poison, that is toxic and contagious. we know that people who are in— contagious. we know that people who are in the _ contagious. we know that people who are in the vicinity of people who are in the vicinity of people who are completely within this world of untruths— are completely within this world of untruths essentially can fall into the conspiratorial thinking. they're poisoning — the conspiratorial thinking. they're poisoning their minds and spreading that way— poisoning their minds and spreading that way of thinking, which has devastating ramifications for all thought— devastating ramifications for all thought of politics and authority. it's thought of politics and authority. it's so _ thought of politics and authority. it's so cynical that governor desantis _ it's so cynical that governor desantis pointed out that the opioid crisis is _ desantis pointed out that the opioid crisis is the real issue that is killing — crisis is the real issue that is killing people. we're talking about deaths. _ killing people. we're talking about deaths. i_ killing people. we're talking about deaths, i would like to ask doctor hotez— deaths, i would like to ask doctor hotez that— deaths, i would like to ask doctor hotez that 2000... but myocarditis, most of— hotez that 2000... but myocarditis, most of the — hotez that 2000... but myocarditis, most of the time doesn't kill a far as i most of the time doesn't kill a far as i know — most of the time doesn't kill a far as i know. but even those 224 will be used as— as i know. but even those 224 will be used as some sort of evidence that vaccines are bad. i can't think ofanything...| that vaccines are bad. i can't think of anything- - -_ of anything... i think a lot of those people _ of anything... i think a lot of those people who _ of anything... i think a lot of those people who died i of anything... i think a lot of those people who died had i of anything... i think a lot of- those people who died had infection.

am i right, you can get myocarditis from the infection?— from the infection? that's absolutely _ from the infection? that's absolutely right. - from the infection? that's absolutely right. the i from the infection? that's i absolutely right. the number of damage and illness and deaths from myocarditis from the actual virus, not only myocarditis, but margaret dowell —— myocardial infarction. this is an example of what some of us called weaponise health communication. what they do is take realfacts and factoids communication. what they do is take real facts and factoids and string it together to create a false narrative with deadly consequences. plenty of reaction. joe, where do you stand on this? the weaponisation of this and the attacks on the science community are going to be amplified because we know republicans are going to hold committees investigating doctor faucl committees investigating doctor fauci, doctor hotez and the roll—out of covid vaccines. fauci, doctor hotez and the roll-out of covid vaccines.— of covid vaccines. christian, the idea of using — of covid vaccines. christian, the idea of using a _

of covid vaccines. christian, the idea of using a grand _ of covid vaccines. christian, the idea of using a grand jury i of covid vaccines. christian, the idea of using a grand jury in - idea of using a grand jury in florida _ idea of using a grand jury in florida to _ idea of using a grand jury in florida to promote - idea of using a grand jury in - florida to promote investigation seems _ florida to promote investigation seems like _ florida to promote investigation seems like a _ florida to promote investigation seems like a real— florida to promote investigation seems like a real political- florida to promote investigation| seems like a real political stunt, florida to promote investigation i seems like a real political stunt, i think— seems like a real political stunt, i think republicans— seems like a real political stunt, i think republicans will— seems like a real political stunt, i think republicans will be - seems like a real political stunt, i i think republicans will be ill—served if they— think republicans will be ill—served if they spend — think republicans will be ill—served if they spend the _ think republicans will be ill—served if they spend the next _ think republicans will be ill—served if they spend the next two - 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not going in the correct direction. verv— not going in the correct direction. very good — not going in the correct direction. very good point _ not going in the correct direction. very good point. about _ not going in the correct direction. very good point. about 30 - not going in the correct direction. . very good point. about 30 seconds. this sort of rhetoric, what does it mean for you personally?- this sort of rhetoric, what does it mean for you personally? well, what ha--ens mean for you personally? well, what ha ens is mean for you personally? well, what happens is whenever _ mean for you personally? well, what happens is whenever the _ mean for you personally? well, what happens is whenever the governor i happens is whenever the governor desantis launches this dog whistle, and he specifically gone after me on fox news and i've shown them to be wrong, and he gets upset about that — the kind of threats is to the effect of the army of patriots is coming to hunt me down. that means somehow, these people aligned with far—right because eggs are doing something patriotic for the, when is the scientists are the real patriots. not only doctor felty and a few others, they were willing to point out why vaccines are safe and effective —— fauci. we have to involve law enforcement and the threats on a regular basis. now that

twitter has been done in my favour he invited all of the prominent anti—vax eat activists back on the level of aggression have elevated. rhetoric has consequences. doctor hotez, thank you. the bad news here in the uk is to that the rise in the cost of living is still close to a ito—year high. the good news is that the rate of inflation is slowing a little. in november, it was at 10.7% down from 11.1 the previous month. that means that a basket of goods that cost 100 a year ago now costs 110.70. where would we see that? well, petrol and diesel prices are 17% more expensive year—on—year. the prices in pubs restaurant cafes were up 10.2% in october, the highest inflation in that sector since records began. overall, food and soft drinks up 16.5%. milk, cheese and eggs, 27%, oils and fat 29%. on the top line of inflation, the us is showing similar improvement, but not enough. so, in the last hour, the fed announced it's hiking interest rates again, up 0.5%. the bank of england will follow suit tomorrow —

the question being, by how much? joe, all the central banks will walk the same type line, but you need to get infection down because it affects the industrial action in the uk. it'sjust a question of it's just a question of how bad it'sjust a question of how bad it is. there's not going to be an easy fix to the _ there's not going to be an easy fix to the situation, _ there's not going to be an easy fix to the situation, and _ there's not going to be an easy fix to the situation, and i— there's not going to be an easy fix to the situation, and i hope - there's not going to be an easy fix to the situation, and i hope that l to the situation, and i hope that first and — to the situation, and i hope that first and foremost, _ to the situation, and i hope that first and foremost, we - to the situation, and i hope that first and foremost, we should i first and foremost, we should figure out how— first and foremost, we should figure out how to _ first and foremost, we should figure out how to get — first and foremost, we should figure out how to get through _ first and foremost, we should figure out how to get through the - first and foremost, we should figure . out how to get through the immediate economic— out how to get through the immediate economic situation. _ out how to get through the immediate economic situation. after— out how to get through the immediate economic situation. after that, - economic situation. after that, we in america have _ economic situation. after that, we in america have to take _ economic situation. after that, we in america have to take a strong l in america have to take a strong look at _ in america have to take a strong look at the — in america have to take a strong look at the loose _ in america have to take a strong look at the loose monetary - in america have to take a strong l look at the loose monetary policy and the _ look at the loose monetary policy and the taxing _ look at the loose monetary policy and the taxing and _ look at the loose monetary policy and the taxing and spending - look at the loose monetary policy and the taxing and spending at. look at the loose monetary policy. and the taxing and spending at our government — and the taxing and spending at our government its— and the taxing and spending at our government. it's not _ and the taxing and spending at our government. it's not sustainable, i and the taxing and spending at our. government. it's not sustainable, so i government. it's not sustainable, so i hope _ government. it's not sustainable, so i hope if— government. it's not sustainable, so i hope if republicans _ government. it's not sustainable, so i hope if republicans do _ government. it's not sustainable, so i hope if republicans do nothing - i hope if republicans do nothing else irr— i hope if republicans do nothing else in congress, _ i hope if republicans do nothing else in congress, they- i hope if republicans do nothing else in congress, they take - i hope if republicans do nothing else in congress, they take a i i hope if republicans do nothing - else in congress, they take a harder line on— else in congress, they take a harder line on the _ else in congress, they take a harder line on the budget. _ else in congress, they take a harder line on the budget. we _ else in congress, they take a harder line on the budget. we probably- else in congress, they take a harder. line on the budget. we probably have to raise _ line on the budget. we probably have to raise taxes — line on the budget. we probably have to raise taxes at _ line on the budget. we probably have to raise taxes at some _ line on the budget. we probably have to raise taxes at some point. - line on the budget. we probably have

to raise taxes at some point. we - to raise taxes at some point. we have _ to raise taxes at some point. we have to — to raise taxes at some point. we have to take _ to raise taxes at some point. we have to take steps _ to raise taxes at some point. we have to take steps that - to raise taxes at some point. we have to take steps that most - have to take steps that most americans _ have to take steps that most americans won't— have to take steps that most americans won't light, - have to take steps that most americans won't light, but . have to take steps that mosti americans won't light, but we have to take steps that most - americans won't light, but we need to get— americans won't light, but we need to get our— americans won't light, but we need to get our financial— americans won't light, but we need to get our financial harps _ americans won't light, but we need to get our financial harps in- americans won't light, but we need to get our financial harps in order. i to get our financial harps in order. -- house — to get our financial harps in order. —— house. longer—term, - to get our financial harps in order. —— house. longer—term, we- to get our financial harps in order. —— house. longer—term, we needl to get our financial harps in order. l —— house. longer—term, we need to examine _ —— house. longer—term, we need to examine our— —— house. longer—term, we need to examine our model— —— house. longer—term, we need to examine our model in— —— house. longer—term, we need to examine our model in country. - —— house. longer—term, we need tol examine our model in country. iirilt�*e'll examine our model in country. we'll talk more about _ examine our model in country. we'll talk more about what _ examine our model in country. talk more about what comes in the next two years. it is time for the panel. dahlia, i want to start with you. you want to talk about, surprisingly, more world cup. is that right? not quite. i think i'm not going to make very many friends with my comments, and that is about the way it seems that since about two weeks before the world cup, you cannot wake up, go to sleep, move or breathe without hearing about the lead up to the world cup, i know that it's on, it's inescapable. for those of us who are not really football fans, it can feel depressive. i've had to make

lemonade out of lemons, and for the best way has been to at least appreciate how much this has shown a spotlight on many of the political and human rights related issues that we know about, but they have a lot of attention right now. i'm impressed by lgbt activists who have gone and where an armband or rainbow somewhere and make a statement. i know it's been very tense and has thrown a spotlight on abysmal human rights violations in qatar. it all comes back to the middle east because when morocco was creating such a drama, it raise question here i well. the palestinians were they've also had to cope with the reality that the situation here is not going away and it's going to crop up in hot israel wherever. all of those things are good platform

that the ubiquity has created a platform for those issues. it’s platform for those issues. it's become so — platform for those issues. it's become so political. on the pitch, the football has been good. i would auree the football has been good. i would aaree if i the football has been good. i would agree if i knew _ the football has been good. i would agree if i knew anything _ the football has been good. i would agree if i knew anything about - agree if i knew anything about football! it’s agree if i knew anything about football! 3 , agree if i knew anything about football! �* , , ., , football! it's been about everything but the football _ football! it's been about everything but the football largely. _ football! it's been about everything but the football largely. i _ football! it's been about everything but the football largely. i think - but the football largely. i think the israelis _ but the football largely. i think the israelis and _ but the football largely. i think the israelis and palestinians i but the football largely. i think| the israelis and palestinians are very much focused on the football. there's just been so much football that i have had no way to think about anything else, so i've had to find ways that i find useful, because it takes up oftentimes ten minutes of the prime time television at night, which is a lot of time for those of us who understand tv. emir; those of us who understand tv. only till sunda ! joe, major breakthrough in the talks to avert a government shutdown in washington. great news for federal workers, but they have to vote on it. kevin mccarthy was asked last night whether he would vote for it,

and he said hell no. privately, we were told he wanted to go through. what it shows is that this is what we're going to get for the next two years. we're going to get for the next two ears. , ., ., years. christian, divided government can have its — years. christian, divided government can have its benefits. _ years. christian, divided government can have its benefits. we _ years. christian, divided government can have its benefits. we saw - years. christian, divided government can have its benefits. we saw that i can have its benefits. we saw that under _ can have its benefits. we saw that under bill — can have its benefits. we saw that under bill clinton with the new gingrich — under bill clinton with the new gingrich to refer but in congress —— newt— gingrich to refer but in congress —— newt gingrich. i think republicans newt gingrich. ! think republicans today— newt gingrich. i think republicans todav see — newt gingrich. i think republicans today see one of two ways to go. you can be _ today see one of two ways to go. you can be a _ today see one of two ways to go. you can be a moderating factor and meet democrats _ can be a moderating factor and meet democrats in the middle and try to reach _ democrats in the middle and try to reach some — democrats in the middle and try to reach some sort of consensus on things— reach some sort of consensus on things like — reach some sort of consensus on things like tax policy. or you could io things like tax policy. or you could go the _ things like tax policy. or you could go the other way and be purely obstructionist. my fear is the republicans are off to a rough start, — republicans are off to a rough start, and _ republicans are off to a rough start, and if this is for shadowing that kevin— start, and if this is for shadowing that kevin mccarthy, if he becomes a speaker. is _ that kevin mccarthy, if he becomes a speaker, is going to have to watch this component of the party that

wants— this component of the party that wants to — this component of the party that wants to do nothing but of obstruct the biden— wants to do nothing but of obstruct the biden administration. i think the biden administration. i think the american people did not reward republicans in the midterms because republicans in the midterms because republicans did not project a positive _ republicans did not project a positive agenda. is republicans did not pro'ect a positive agenda.�* positive agenda. is not 'ust interpany. i positive agenda. is not 'ust interparty. just i positive agenda. is not 'ust interparty. just to i positive agenda. is not 'ust interparty. just to his h positive agenda. is notjust interparty. just to his left l positive agenda. is notjust i interparty. just to his left was positive agenda. is notjust - interparty. just to his left was mr mcconnell who wants the deal, and you would have a split between the republicans in the senate and the house. ~ . ., , republicans in the senate and the house. n ., , .,, ., ., house. mcconnell is viewed as one of those moderate _ house. mcconnell is viewed as one of those moderate traditionalist - those moderate traditionalist republicans that try to get some things— republicans that try to get some things done. used to be the tea party, _ things done. used to be the tea party. now— things done. used to be the tea party, now it's the freedom caucus, that really— party, now it's the freedom caucus, that really feel that anyone who tries to — that really feel that anyone who tries to meet in the middle is a traitor— tries to meet in the middle is a traitor and should not be followed. ithink— traitor and should not be followed. i think it's — traitor and should not be followed. i think it's going to be a rough two years. _ i think it's going to be a rough two years. and — i think it's going to be a rough two years, and it'll be self—defeating for republicans if they go down that road _ for republicans if they go down that road we_ for republicans if they go down that road. ~ ., ., ., road. we have to leave it there. lovely dagger — road. we have to leave it there. lovely dagger company, - road. we have to leave it there. lovely dagger company, joe - road. we have to leave it there. | lovely dagger company, joe and dahlia, thank you very much. ——

lovely dagger company. i'm away tomorrow but the programme will be here. i'll see you next week. —— to have your company. thanks for watching. hello there. the first half of december looks like being one of the coldest in the last 100 years. now, the weather is going to change, but notjust yet. the next couple of days, we stay in this cold air, which means more frost and perhaps more ice, particularly where we see some snow showers, and most of those are going to be across scotland. northern scotland seeing them on thursday. the winds not as strong by this stage. a few wintry showers sliding across north—east england, down to lincolnshire, perhaps towards east anglia, and a few showers continuing across northern ireland as well. for large parts of the country, though, thursday will be dry, lots of sunshine around, but after a widespread sharp frost, those temperatures will again struggle to make 1 or 2 degrees in many places. and it will be very cold once again as we move

into thursday night, friday morning, with those temperatures typically —a or —5 degrees, maybe colder than that in some places. and then we'll start to see some weather systems coming in from the atlantic to bring some wetter weather into scotland. into the cold air, there's likely to be a fair bit of snow, particularly across central, southern parts of scotland. some snow in the lower levels across scotland, through the central lowlands. to the north, in the hills, there could be some significant snow and some disruption. the rest of the uk seeing some sunshine, perhaps one or two showers, but many places will be dry. we've got higher pressure across the south of the uk, actually, lower pressure bringing that wet weather into scotland. a lot of that will move away towards scandinavia, and we'll see a mixture of sunshine around on saturday, perhaps some showers. sleet and snow rather than purely snow, because temperatures may be just a little bit higher, actually, on saturday — [i to 6 degrees. those temperatures a little bit higher because the wind is going to be coming in more from the south, the wind slowly picking up. we're still in cold air on saturday but this is where we start to see,

the weather changing as we move into saturday night and sunday, because we've got these weather fronts coming into that cold air. initially, we're going to find a spell of snow, particularly for northern parts of the uk, and then those south—westerly winds come following in behind, and that will bring in milder air and push away all that cold weather that we've seen. but it's going to be a tricky transition, really, on sunday. a spell of snow, particularly for northern parts of the uk. for the most part, it will turn back to rain. we see the showers coming in after that wetter weather, and that milder air, too. you can see the contrast, really, as that milder air there really arrives across south—western areas and it's still cold in the north—east. that wetter weather that we've got, that mixture of rain, sleet and snow, moves away from scotland, and then we're all in that run of south—westerly winds. quite strong winds, actually, on monday, and there will be a lot of cloud around. there will be some wet weather, too, but it looks like it's going to be rain. it could be a little heavy across north—western areas as well, but look at those temperatures — 1a degree potentially on monday, and double figures pretty

much across—the—board. very mild on monday. after monday, things start to cool down a little bit. you can see that tuck of cooler air, and it follows around, wraps around that area of low pressure, which in the longer range, is going to stick around to the north of scotland and then feed in sort of showers, really, across many parts of the uk. other weather systems may be running across more southern areas in milderair, but the air is going to be cooler, really, after monday, tuesday. we've got temperatures back down to nearer normal — not the really cold weather that we've got at the moment and not the mild weather that we start the week with, but something more normal, quite windy and showery, and those showers could be wintry at times, potentially, in the north.

tonight at ten — four people die after a small boat carrying migrants sinks in freezing waters in the channel. over 30 were hauled to safety by members of a fishing boat in the sea between kent and france — the boat owner expressed pride in the crew. the skipper was absolutely fantastic, and the crew. piled them in the shower, hot water on them, tried to warm them up. clothes on, you know, our crew's clothes on them, which is amazing, and fed them. we'll be asking whether the government's plans announced yesterday to stop the small boats might have averted this tragedy. also on the programme... a six—year old boy who fell into an icy lake near solihull becomes the fourth child to die. china removes six diplomats from britain —

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