live from london, this is bbc news. deadly clashes between india and pakistan overnight - in a major escalation between the two nuclear armed nations. after india launched a series of missile strikes, pakistan vows to retaliate, describing the attack as "a blatant act of war". local official said two people are killed in pakistani shelling. we were foreseeing this. we were ready for an attack. it's unfair to link pakistan to the pahalgam incident

because india could not provide any evidence. this is the scene live in muzaffarabad - one of the areas said to have been struck by missiles fired by india. we will bring you all the latest updates of the clash as they come in. also coming up... at the vatican, the process of choosing a new pope begins in the next few hours as the conclave of cardinals is convened. later on business today - mark carney tells president trump canada is "not for sale" in their first meeting since his election as prime minister. hello, i'm sally bundock. pakistan's government says at least eight people have been killed and dozens more injured after india launched a series of missile strikes on targets in pakistan

and pakistan-administered kashmir. these are pictures from the city of bahawalpur, where pakistani media reports that a series of explosions were heard, with power black outs also reported in the area. delhi said nine sites were hit, targeting what it described as "terrorist infrastructure". it said no military facilities had been attacked. tensions between the two nuclear-armed neighbours have escalated since last month's militant attack in indian-administered kashmir, in which 26 civilians were killed. india accuses pakistan of backing cross-border terrorism - a charge islamabad strongly denies. pakistan's military says it has shot down five jets and a drone, although india hasn't commented and this cannot be independently verified. there have also been reports

of casualties after artillery fire over the line of control into indian-administered kashmir. attalullah tarar is the pakistan minister for information and spoke to us earlier about the military confrontation. we have casualties are of women and children because it was a civilian population. pakistan has responded back in retaliation to this indian aggression. we shot down three indian planes, one in akhnoor, one in ambala, one near jammu, and we've shot down an indian drone and multiple quadcopters because we were foreseeing this. we were ready for an attack after the pahalgam incident. we had offered india a transparent and impartial investigation into the matter, but we had received no response. and it's unfair to link pakistan to the pahalgam incident because india could not provide any evidence. we've been asking for evidence because the pahalgam area is a good 200km away

from the pakistani line of control. the first information report was registered ten minutes after the incident. the police arrived one hour and 30 minutes after the incident, and prime minister modi was being questioned by his own countrymen as to what evidence is there against pakistan. and you see, we are the frontline state against terrorism. we've laid down 90,000 lives in this war against terrorism. even today, we are fighting a war against terrorism. we had seven casualties in a terrorist attack earlier in baluchistan. so the indian aggression is without any justifiable cause. they've crossed all limits. they've launched missiles on our civilian population. innocent civilians, women and children we've lost. there are injured in the hospitals. our correspondent in pakistan, azadeh moshiri has been following developments. there has been an attack, as pakistan was concerned there would be. and in response to that, islamabad's capital territory,

as well as punjab, have now closed all private and public schools and colleges as they realise that they're now in the midst of a military confrontation. now, though, i say this, it's important to flag that we don't know how this is going to progress and how much, how intense, how serious of a military confrontation this will be, given the fact that you could compare it to the long-running history when it comes to kashmir, because india and pakistan have fought two wars over this issue. they've had a military conflict over it as well. and 2019 was the last time that there was something similar like this in terms of india launching an attack. some of the detail of what we're hearing and what we understand is going on between pakistan and izzy india.

let's speak to our mumbai correspondent, archana shukla. this was one of the areas that was hit by the attacks on the part of india. islamabad, of course the capital of pakistan. that was this morning as they do, the government come together to discuss retaliation and their response to the attacks that have taken place overnight. and these are also pictures that we are receiving on the ground in a village in the borough were meant district of india after fighter jets crashed in the area. we are receiving different pictures from different parts of the areas where events have taken place. and we are of course waiting on reaction from the

authorities, particularly on the part of pakistan. the concern is mounting as to whether this will escalate further, as mentioned, the pakistani authorities have said this is an active war they will respond in kind. india is saying that three civilians were killed by pakistani shelling on its side of the de facto border. tensions have been rising between the two since the deadly militant attack on indian tourists last month. india is saying that they have been attacking sites that were involved and had clear involvement of pakistan -based terrorists. that was what their evidence pointed to in those with the sites that they pointed to. let's hear from jeremy bowen who is also

keeping across these developments. the issue right now is the degree to which this does or does not escalate. because it's been a possibility for a while, let's hope that diplomats, leaders of friendly governments as well might have already made overtures to try to say, look, if this does come to blows, don't let it get out of control because the important thing to know, and we must not get ahead of ourselves here, but these are both states with the traditional immunity. they fought wars over the disputed territory of kashmir in the past, and they have both got nuclear weapons. it's very

important for all concerned, including actually journalists who were talking about it, to not race ahead to all kinds of nightmare disaster scenarios, but there is no doubt that in a tense part of the world, in an area with a deep-seated conflict, this is a very dangerous moment. jeremy bowen with his thoughts on these late to stiff development is. let's go to mumbai now. we're just receiving of course, as you do in these circumstances, lots of footage coming in from different quarters, one of which has come via the reuters news agency, which shows metal debris scattered on the ground, as we can see here. and pakistan is saying it had shut down several indian fighter jets as this conflict escalated overnight. what more can you

tell us? there have been images and video circulated of some metal debris, some of which was also said to be very close to the main city in kashmir, very close to sheena, and images of people standing around that. by the indian government has not confirmed what those metal debris are, it certainly looks like aircraft debris, but the indian government on its part is not confirmed that. pakistan and it's part of confirmed that they have shut down five military jets. the indian government has not yet confirmed. what is important in a situation like this is to get more confirmed information, like you pointed out. a lot of images circulating. the language around what is being said and attribution to that is very critical. so at the moment, the indian government are not saying much, but we

will be having the indian army addressing the media in just a few moments time. that is critical, isn't it, it's waiting to see what happens next on both sides? but as that weight goes on, we get more detail about those who have been injured, the numbers who have been killed and who and where, the locations that have been attacked. absolutely. information trickling in, because the situation has escalated pretty quickly since the morning, the indian set of strikes which were launched in nine locations in pakistan administered kashmir. pakistan have vowed to take retaliatory action. indian government confirm just the few minutes ago that people have been

killed in pakistani shelling in the indian defective border. we have had families of those who were killed, who speak about the intensity of the shelling and of the impact of that attack in that region. so, yes, the situation pretty quickly escalating this morning, with the entire world is watching with bated breath. there is a lot of chatter, people are watching the sensitive situation very closely. india opposition parties have come out in support of the government decision on strikes in pakistan. while we get more detail on what happened, just remind us why india said it took this action in the first place. on april 22, in a very

picturesque town in kashmir in indian administered kashmir, militants attacked a group of tourists, killing 26 civilian tourists, one of them was also a nepali citizen. india believes and has claimed that the attacks were carried out by an militants who have been trained and funded by pakistan, and pakistan was behind these attacks. they say they have evidence to prove it was pakistan behind these attacks. pakistan on its part, however, has claimed they have nothing to do with those attacks, but that was the start of intensifying the tensions between the two countries. over the last two weeks, we've seen india reporting across firing of small arms from the pakistan side. pakistan on its part says that india have been firing

small arms. the ceasefire agreement, but india run its part saying that it had been prepping up to take retaliatory action saying they would not let the perpetrators of the militant attack on tourists in pahalgam go without any justice, and they say they stand with their right to take this action. but we have seen it escalated. thank you very much indeed. they're in mumbai, as you can see next to her, the pictures from muzaffarabad this morning, as they have to die just what's been going on in the last 12 hours or so, what's been hit, where the debris is, who has been targeted. we are getting reaction now from around the world. president trump gave his reaction to the developments between india and

pakistan. no, it's a shame. we just heard about it, just as we were walking in the doors of the oval. just heard about it. i guess people knew something was going to happen based on a little bit of the past. they've been fighting for a long time. you know, they've been fighting for many, many decades and centuries, actually, if you really think about it. no, i just hope it ends very quickly. our correspondent greg mckenzie is here. there's lots of reaction overnight, and we've been hearing from the united nations, a spokesperson for the secretary general, and they've issued a statement. it simply reads that the secretary general is very concerned, because the maximum military restraint from both countries. the world cannot afford a military confrontation between india and pakistan. here in the uk, the uk foreign office has

said that it is advising against all travel within ten kilometres of the india - pakistan border, and they've issued a statement on their website saying that they understand there has been... well, an indication that pakistan was closing its airspace for at least 48 hours and advising brits to contact their airlines. elsewhere, we've got scotland was like first minister john swinney and stella creasy taking to x saying that they were deeply concerned by the escalation in violence. we've also heard from former tory minister lord ahmed who was one done x, the potential of what is real. absolutely, and that's the real concern about this, that this does not escalate further as the two countries are nuclear

armed. any word yet from the prime minister? no word yet from 10 downing street. we are expecting a statement later today. we've not heard from the foreign secretary either. it's interesting the timing of this, because only yesterday, the uk and india had the celebration, and the governments on both sides are keen to tell us how great this trade deal is brokered between the uk and india, so sickest armour and others have been in close contact with india for some time. absolutely. it's a huge announcement. the first time a deal like that has been struck any where in the world, between the two countries, the uk and india, and then this. you very much for talking us through some of the reaction we've had so far to the news that

cardinals from around the world are in rome ahead of the conclave to decide the next pope. this is the scene now at the vatican. the papal conclave gets underway in the next few hours. the 133 cardinals will be barred from contact with the outside world until they decide who should succeed pope francis. let's speak to our rome correspondent sarah rainsford. good morning, sarah. talk is through the process. this is, i think, an election like no other and secretive like they were there as well. it will ultimately take place inside a sealed chapel, the sistine chapel at the heart of the vatican here behind me. that is where, this afternoon, the 133

cardinals will be processed in order to begin their votes. then make a procession, they'll be praying and singing as they go, and elsewhere an oath which includes an oath of secrecy, and they will begin the slow process of an electing a new pope. ultimately this evening, we will see some smoke from that famous chimney that has been installed in the vatican, but that we are not expecting that to be the white smoke that announces a new pope, because usually it takes a little longer than that. we are expecting more hours of voting tomorrow, and perhaps even beyond that, but we would expect the cardinals to be starting to see who would be the main contenders, to give some indication of who were the favourites in two to coalesce around. 1.4 billion catholics around the world, and they are represented by those cardinals who will be taking part in this vote because it is an extremely

diverse group of cardinals. from many countries and many parts of the world all with different priorities and concerns they have been discussing over the past few weeks since the death of pope francis. a couple of really interesting details. because it's supposed to be secret and take place in complete seclusion and isolation, there are in fact jammers that have been stalled to prevent any wi-fi signals or phone signals getting through to the sick steam chapel. there have been sweeps of the area by security guards to ensure no one has installed any bugs or is recording devices. it's supposed to take place cut off and sealed off from the noise in the interests and the interference of the outside world. invent eventually we will have a result, but we are not expecting that today. former us president joe biden has warned in an exclusive

interview with the bbc that pressure from the trump administration on ukraine, to give up territory to russia is "modern-day appeasement". in his first interview since leaving the white house, mr biden spoke to radio 4's today programme to mark the 80th anniversary of ve day. our correspondent joe inwood reports. mr president... it was in this room where more than half a century ago, joe biden launched his political career. i'm told, you know this place? i know this place, yeah, it's the hotel dupont. and this was the centre of all activity in the south for a long, long time. speaking for the first time since that career came to an end, he told the bbc's nick robinson that the nato alliance was in danger of breaking down. it's a grave concern. i think it would change the modern history of the world if that occurs. i fear that our allies around the world are going to begin to doubt whether we're in a state where we've always been the last 80 years.

i'm worried that europe's going to lose confidence in the certainty of america, and the leadership of america in the world, to deal with not only nato, but other matters that are of consequence. three years after the launch of russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine, he said donald trump's attempts to end the war amounted to appeasement of president putin. as president, joe biden welcomed volodymyr zelensky to the white house as a friend. you're right now not in a very good position. so what did he make of his now infamous bust up with president trump? i found it, uh... ..sort of beneath america, the way that took place. and the way we talk about now that, uh, well, it's the gulf of america, maybe we're going to have to take back panama, maybe we need to acquire

greenland, maybe canada should be... what the hell is going on here? what president ever talks like that? that's not who we are. we're about freedom, democracy, opportunity, not about confiscation. joe biden withdrew from the last us presidential election at the last minute and under great pressure. a question many have asked - should he have made that decision earlier? i don't think it would have mattered. we left at a time when we had a good candidate. things moved so quickly that it made it difficult to walk away, to get... and, uh, it was a, uh... ..it was a hard decision. joe inwood, bbc news. the full interview will be

available on bbc sounds at nine o'clock this morning and on the bbc iplayer from 1pm - just search for "political thinking". pakistan's government is saying that at least eight people have been killed since india launch strikes on pakistan and pakistan administered kashmir. delhi has said that nine sites were hit, attacking what it said was terrorist infrastructure. it said no military facilities were attacked. pakistan are saying it has shut down five jets and a drone. india has yet to comment on that detail and we cannot independently verify that at the moment. there have also been casualties after artillery fired over the line

the defective border.

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