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budget for that extra cash? on the aid budget, it was a difficult decision that we had to take in order to get to 2.5% and i am absolutely clear that in the meantime we have to ensure that we do other work unpaid, working with other countries and institutions to pull levers, to trigger the money we need for aid. but the best way to pay for increased public spending in any way is to grow our economy and that is the focus when it comes to defence or any other spending. wealth creation. that is why i am pleased that because of the decisions we took at the budget which were top but right, we have been able to stabilise the economy stop we now have growth, 0.7%, higher than most people thought, four interest rate cuts in a row, wages going up faster than prices and we have built the stability and
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confidence to deliver three trade deals, with india, the us and eu which other governments talked about which we delivered which will have their own dividends, so here in scotland for example when it comes to whiskey, the deal we have done is hugely important with india and that is the way we will proceed. thank you. now we are going to scotland i think. lindsey from bbc scotland. you want to spend billions more on defence, including 15 billion more on nuclear weapons. but not far from here in hamilton your party is fighting a by-election and voters there tell us they are angry at your government over cuts to winter fuel, welfare cuts, they are very anxious about the cost of living. isn't it the case that your priorities don't match those of the public? and secondly, you mentioned the
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defence dividend and a further 25,000 jobs for scotland, can you outline when those jobs will actually be delivered? to deal with your central challenge, because i think that security and safety of everyone in scotland is paramount, is absolutely paramount. i can't imagine anyone who seriously wants to be prime minister of this country coming to scotland and saying that the first priority is not the safety and security of scotland. just consider the consequences of somebody as prime minister saying that. and remind ourselves that at this time the renewed threat and instability across europe, the snp's position is to get rid of our nuclear deterrent, the single most important part of our capability, that has kept
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scotland and the united kingdom safe for many, many years. and at this moment they renew their pledge to get rid of our nuclear deterrent. imagine the effect that would have on the safety and security of the united kingdom and of scotland. then go to reform, who want to spend tens of billions of pounds but won't say where the money is coming from, completely unfunded and uncosted. that's what liz truss did, that's what blew up the economy and lead to the infliction of harm on working people in scotland, on their mortgages and prices. i'm not prepared to let that be inflicted on scotland ever again and that's why i'm absolutely clear in my priorities, which is the safety and security of everybody in scotland, and making sure we never have the prospect in scotland again of a westminster government that blows up their
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finances. thank you very much. paris from stv. if you are so confident of the case you just made, why aren't you going to hamilton to make the case directly to those voters? is it because that you are afraid you will lose two parties that, as you say, won't support nuclear weapons? my firm belief is only labour can beat the snp in hamilton. my firm belief is that my job as prime minister is to deliver for the whole of scotland, including hamilton and everybody involved in that by-election. that's what we have been doing every day of this labour government, whether it's the biggest settlement for scotland under this budget since devolution, a huge settlement. whether it's the increase in wages in scotland, or the delivery of more jobs in defence and security. i'm sorry, i didn't do the second half of the question so i will
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try to tie it together. scotland has a proud tradition and incredibly skilled workforce when it comes to jobs in security and defence. i want to make sure those jobs are maintained, thrive, and there are more jobs to be done, which will happen under this defence review. scotland contributes hugely to defence. we are grateful to work with scotland and defence people in scotland, including everybody here. i want to see more of that because it's good for the defence and security of scotland, united kingdom, and it's good for working people who have good, well-paid jobs that will help them and their families and communities. thank you very much. then i think i have, from the scottish sun. thank you, prime minister. nigel farage is in scotland today as well, on the campaign trail for the hamilton
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by-election, as is john swinney. if labour lose to both the snp and reform on thursday, which bookmakers think will happen, that is less than one year out from the scottish parliament elections, and does it mean that's the beginning of the end for scottish labour, anas sarwar, and you. and going back to defence briefly as well, do you feel russia could cause an internet blackout and power outages in the uk by targeting underwater cables to bring the country to a standstill and are you doing enough to stop that? only labour can beat the snp and we need to be clear as we go into the final stages of the campaign in relation to that. we are very clear in our campaign on that. the threat from russia takes different forms and we are prepared and have to be prepared for all of them. you have seen the threats to our air and water, to cyber and the threats we see to cabling in different parts of
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the world, but threats are absolutely clear and we are working, as you would expect, with allies to make sure we can protect all our infrastructure and capabilities. thank you. just in from the career press and journal. how the announcement today benefit workers in rosyth and the wider fife area, and how will the review help tackle russian aggression in the far north? in terms of the jobs, obviously there is a capability that we are currently engaged on now, that will ramp up with the increase in spending and the recommendations of the review that we will take further. i want that to be, and i am determined it will be measured in good, well-paid jobs in fife and across scotland because never forget the supply chains that feed in to the major defence and security sectors,
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which are vitally important. in relation to russian aggression, the second part, we need to be clear when we say we are entering a new era, the level of threat and instability is of a different order that all of us have experienced for quite some time now. that's why i have asked for the review to be done, which is i need an assessment of the threats we face as they are now and as we think they will be over the next five or ten years, and the current capability to ensure that our capability meets the threats we face and that's why i am pleased this review is delivered today. our job now is to take that on, deliver it, alongside our long-standing commitment to our nato allies. thank you all very much indeed and thank you for listening to me and giving up your time. most importantly, thank you for
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the work you are doing here because, as i have said to many, including those on the submarines and frigates, etc, they can't do what they do if it wasn't for what you are doing here. all the skill you put in here, which is incredible professionalism, is vital, because they need to know they have the best kit, equipment, and they need to know, as you know, that you are standing behind them on the front line. thank you from me for that. and thank you, because they would want me to say thank you, from all those on the front line who know that you are standing with them. it means a huge amount to them and i have seen for myself how important it is. this is highly skilled, really important, professional work, but also the defence and security of our people. i want to say thank you to all of you for the part you play on that and i am very proud of what you do and i
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think you should be proud of what you do as well. thank you all very much. applause studio: sir keir starmer setting out how the government intends to review the defence spending. he mentioned the by-election happening in hamilton this thursday. you can find a full list of all candidates taking part in that by-election in hamilton larkhall and stonehouse on june the 5th on the bbc news website. listening to that speech by sir keir starmer with me was our correspondent joe inwood. what stood out for you in that? i think the message keir starmer was trying to send, and we noticed he wasn't standing in front of a lot of military personnel but a lot of industrial workers. the people who are, as he was saying, the backbone of any kind of military effort. i think what really stood out, and to be fair, a lot of this we knew in
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advance, we have the releases coming out, but what he wants to focus on is a societywide readiness to fight the wars of the future. that's one of the keywords that stood out this morning, the idea of moving to war fighting readiness. they think as a society essentially we have been lulled into a false sense of security. a few quotes here, he says it is a new era in the threats we face and a new era in security, a blueprint to make britain stronger, and armour clad nation. he talked about strategic reserve and war fighting readiness. the idea that essentially society is being mobilised and some of the language was quite extraordinary. i think the flip side is we are still only talking about 2.5% of gdp. this isn't to make a value judgment and to say we should spend more, but military experts say if you want to, and many of them do and we have heard that this morning, if you want to achieve the sort of ambitions he is talking about then that level is probably not going to be enough. our political editor
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chris mason said to him, are you sure you can commit to all this with that money and he said 100%. i think others may doubt that. nato and donald trump would want to see more being spent as well. they want to see 3.5% and the suggestion is that the next nato meeting in a couple of weeks they will call for 3.5% with another 1.5 spent on other defence adjacent things, domestic national security and that kind of thing. when our correspondent jonathan beale, the defence correspondent, was asking a baltics defence minister, i believe they were, about 2.5%, 3%, they said, that's old news. the level we are looking to get two, 2.5%, its been dismissed by some nato allies is not nearly enough. we have heard the prime minister say that we can't ignore the threat from russia. and then later on in that speech, when he was answering questions from the media, he talked about russian aggression with regard to the
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far north, the nordic states. we are talking about a new threat over and above that, that which we have already seen in ukraine. there has been a lot of hope, and resort from the chief of the german defence staff a couple of days ago, they think within two or three years' time we could see another russian attack. there is a suggestion, and intelligence, and i have been briefed this by another european defence official, that the russians are producing more tanks than they are sending to the front lines, they are building up strategic reserves of armoured vehicles and tanks to allow them to do some sort of other military action. the reason this matters in the context to all of this, it is not they think they will try to sweep through europe and take a large number of countries. it is about taking little nibbles, little bites out of countries like estonia or lithuania, testing the resolve of nato. why this matters, it's not only president putin as a world
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leader who ran through the strategic defence review and conversations, but the name that wasn't mentions and needs to be borne in mind at all times is donald trump. there has always been an assumption, that's what a lot of strategic defence policy was based on, there was an assumption that when push came to shove the americans were dry to the rescue, this huge military power that could sweep all before it. that assumption doesn't stand up any more. we had pete hegseth, the new defence secretary coming in and being very scathing european allies, basically coring european countries freeloaders. we heard article five, the part of the nato founding treaty that said an attack on one is an attack on all, the idea that if russia took a nibble out of the baltic countries, the americans would come riding to the rescue, i don't think they can make that assumption any more and that runs throughout all of this. that would be the test, thank you to joe inwood.
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we can speak to our chief political correspondent henry zeffman. we heard over and over in the questions from gathered reporters and political editors, the question about whether 2.5% of gdp is enough. as joe said, the conversation is already moving, at least internationally, not just from 3%, which a lot of the questions that this press conference were about, but whether the uk is committed to hitting 3% of national income spending on defence by 2034, but actually the conversation is moving to 3.5%. i think what all the semantics and what all this game of number wang underscores is that defence spending is only on one path in the uk, and that path is upwards. i don't think anyone in any major party believes otherwise. that means political questions will start to bite
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before long, especially in an environment of relatively sluggish growth, which is, if defence spending is being prioritised then what is this government going to de-prioritise in order to pay for it. is emphasis on how this would generate what he called the defence dividend, that there would be innovation and there would be jobs as a consequence of it. i think joe inwood was exactly right to say it was striking that the prime minister made this speech surrounded by factory workers rather than military personnel. if you speak to people at the top of this government they spend an awful lot of time thinking about defence, security, geopolitics. any prime minister does, but this moment in global history especially. they also know that when it comes to electoral domestic politics here in the uk, people are much more focused on the economy, or much more focused on their
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individual cost of living and individual economic and financial situation. i think that's why the prime minister is trying to make this strategic defence review a story about boosting jobs and growth in the uk because that is how he is trying to tie some of those quite abstract questions about international diplomacy and international security to very concrete day to day considerations for the people he needs to vote for him at the next general election even if that's four years away.
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poland has just held a crucial election with karol nawrocki winning the presidency. it is a major setback for the prime minister donald tusk's pro eu government. the election
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commission said karen watzke won 50.89%. let's go to warsaw where we can speak to kasia madera. the congratulations are already coming in. to explain some background noise, we have a protest happening in front of the presidential palace, not related to the election result, something completely different. we are battling a little bit with the noise but the congregations internationally coming in with head of nato mark rutte sending his congratulations. the commander-in-chief of the polish army, the third largest army in nato, and also congratulations from volodymyr zelensky, reaching out to this nation, a vocal supporter of ukraine's ongoing war, the conflict following the full-scale invasion of russia. the president of germany, also possibly through gritted teeth, congratulating the new leader.
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he would have preferred ideally to have someone from the pro-eu camp, rafal trzaskowski but that was not to be, a nail-biting finish to the election. the chancellor of germany hoping that poland will work on closer ties, democracy and the rule of law, hugely contentious because the eu had criticised the previous law and justice party of breaching the rule of law. why is that important? let's speak to my guest, the deputy head of the warsaw office at the warsaw council on foreign relations. my goodness, it will be quite a relationship between the eu and law and justice backed karol nawrocki scheme. how does law and justice work with brussels, or doesn't? law and justice was on a collision course with the european union on many levels and we should expect the same from karol nawrocki, or even a more increased level of that. law and justice obstructed
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judicial reform sound karol nawrocki will continue to be told those reforms that are necessary for donald tusk to restore the rule of law. he will probably also trying to damage relations that donald tusk is building with individual eu countries. what donald tusk is trying to do when it comes to eu defence, strengthening ties to rebalance poland's dependence on the united states, that will be obstructed by karol nawrocki. brussels have a great relationship with donald tusk, the current prime minister, he was previously the president of the european council. i wonder how hampered will he be in terms of trying to maintain that pro-eu stance for his country, which has arguably benefited so much from being in the european union. that's right. for the next two years we can say that donald tusk, while still in government,
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before the 2027 parliamentary election will be able to maintain a pro-european course but the problem is he can't sign in legislation that makes it that poland takes a strategic turn or pivot towards europe, such as the bilateral treaty poland has now tried to implement between poland and france, which strengthens defence relations between the two countries. the biggest problem is that with karol nawrocki in the presidential office, donald tusk will not be able to implement traditional reforms and his four years in power will probably not be deemed successful, lowering his chances of winning in 2027 and probably then a more far right government coming to power in 2027. so the pro-european course is probably there for another two years. so you think potentially it could go that when it comes to the 2027 parliamentary election law and justice will be strengthened, will be feeling emboldened, given this result, and we could
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be, we're not talking about polish exit from the eu. not to that degree. karol nawrocki is a bit of a question mark because he doesn't have a lot of legacy we can run on because he hasn't been in office before. however, we can safely say that he is very similar to other right-wing parties in europe which run on a strong campaign of trying to dismantle the eu from within. it's not about poland leaving the eu but it's definitely about poland having its own sovereignty within the eu. and his tenure will definitely make the pirc position much stronger and make it appear that donald tusk's coalition government is falling apart and hasn't been successful in coming forward on the reforms they promised and would push for, which are judicial reforms, abortion and civil partnerships. pas is the polish naming of the law and justice party. what do we make
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of this because we know poland come when you speak to polish people, they understand the changes being in the eu has made but this party, this adamantly critical of brussels party has put through an unknown candidate. is that a failing from brussels to continue with that positive spin on relations between poland and the eu? that may be one side of it and there is definitely some blame on the side of the donald tusk government and there could be some blame on the side of the eu because poland is still leading the polish presidency and they haven't made that much of a point. europe has always been this battlefield for poland. us relations, on the other hand, have always been a bipartisan issue. there is no doubting that, and that would have continued under trzaskowski. but europe is a contentious issue and russian propaganda and the so-called trump effect, and however many
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scandals surface, the karol nawrocki electorate chose to ignore the very big question marks we had about this candidate, now president. president in august when he takes office in the building behind us. from the european council on foreign relations, thank you. one thing to say, this is a divided country and karol nawrocki needs to start uniting it. sea otters at a zoo in the us have been caught on camera showing off water basketball skills. keepers at a zoo in oregon have trained and otto to stop her developing arthritis in her elbow joints as she gets older. and we can't sleep without showing you the tomatina festival in colombia. it echoes that in valencia in spain. it is said to have
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live from london, this is bbc news. the uk's major defence review will move the armed forces to war fighting regulars in order to deter threats in an increasingly unstable world. a new era demands a new era for defence and security. not just to survive in this new world but to lead. the conservative historian at karol nawrocki wins the polish presidential election. after a better campaign and nail-biting finish, the new occupant of the presidential palace really needs to unite this country. delegation from russia

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