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live from london. this is bbc news. mps vote to legalise assisted dying in england and wales - the biggest social reform in a generation is now likely to become law. activists celebrate outside parliament - but others say it's a worrying step. disabled people are absolutely terrified about the impact this is going to have on them. live in tel aviv as the barrage of missiles in both directions goes on, iranian and european foreign ministers are meeting
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in geneva to try to pull back from the brink. rescuers in gaza say israeli forces have killed at least 43 palestinians - many while they were waiting for food. hello. in a historic move, mps have voted to back a bill legalising assisted dying in england and wales. the bill passed by 23 votes and will now go to the house of lords, to face further scutiny. under the proposed legislation, terminally ill adults in england and wales - who have fewer than six months to live - would be able to choose an assisted death. the vote followed several hours
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of emotional debate, mps were allowed to vote in accordance with their personal beliefs, rather than along party lines. this is the moment the result was announced order. the ayes to the right, 314. the noes to the left, 291. the ayes have it. unlock! that completes third reading. if people who wish to leave now could please do so. mps have voted in favour of a bill legalising assisted dying in england and wales. the legislation was approved by a margin of just 23 votes. it would allow terminally ill adults with six months or less to live to get medical assistance to end their own lives. kim leadbeater is the mp behind the assisted dying bill - speaking first to bbc, she gave her reaction on todays result. absolutely over the moon, because i know what this means to terminally ill people and to
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people who've lost loved ones. but i also know that some people were not supportive of a change, and i think it's important to remain respectful of that. but i'm absolutely delighted when you've met so many people, as i have, who are falling victim to an essentially failing status quo. we had a duty to do something about that, and i feel we've done that well today. you have spent probably thousands of hours in the last few months looking at every single aspect of this. sum it up in terms of the scale of this potential social change. yes, of course it has to go to the house of lords. this is not a new law yet. but give me a sense from your perspective of how big a moment this is for society at large. yeah. look, we can't deny this is a huge moment in time. but equally, people are dying every day. what we're doing is just adding an extra dimension of choice to those people who are dying. we know that in every hospital and hospice and in people's homes, that people are facing their final few moments. what we've done with this huge change, and i appreciate that, is we've given people choice and dignity where they might not otherwise have it. and the other good thing about choices, you don't have to do it. so we've just created that opportunity for anybody who might
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want it, or even just the reassurance of it. and that's what people in other jurisdictions say. they might never do it. and about 30 to 40% of people don't. but the reassurance and the comfort that this choice provides, you know, it's immeasurable. what would you say to those this afternoon who'll be profoundly scared by what the house of commons has just decided? who will worry that this puts vulnerable people in a more vulnerable place? look, i would not have put this bill through if i was not 100% confident in the safeguards and the robustness of the process. and actually, when it comes to vulnerability, dying people are vulnerable too, and we have to look after their rights and their needs. but any other groups and any other individuals, i will work with them on whatever issues they care about and whatever campaigns they want to do. i am here, and that's why we're all in parliament, to make a difference to people who need change. but i am fully confident in the bill. believe me, i have lived and breathed it for months. the safeguards are extremely thorough, extremely robust, and i'm confident that this will help the people it needs to help, but it will not cause damage to other people. danny kruger is a conservative mp who's been opposed to the assisted dying bill. he's been speaking
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to our political editor - chris mason - who put it to him that his was not a popular position with the public at large. i recognise that there is a majority in most polls for the principle of assisted dying because if you ask people, should we help people to die without pain and to avoid an agonising death? they say, yes, and i think that too. i agree, well, of course, and in fact that's what palliative care is. and actually, when you drill into these opinion polls, it's clear that what people really want is good quality palliative care. and if you explain to them what this bill in particular actually means, a support for it falls away. so i don't actually accept that headline poll. and even if i did, what that is, is about the principle, the practice of the bill is the job of parliament. so we're not here just to implement opinion polls. we're here to look at actual legislation. and this bill is, i'm afraid, shot through with different challenges and problems. so, i mean, i'm afraid it's not enough just to say we think there's a public support for the principle. we actually have to look at how it will work in practice. and our obligation isn't just to today's voters either. it's to the future of our country.
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it's to the way our society would be changed if we did this. we have an enormous responsibility here, and i really regret that. the house of commons so far is still supportive, but i do think that is changing. we've seen significant reduction in support for the bill today. let's see what the house of lords do and let's see when it comes back to us for further consideration. what opinion is in the commons then? let's speak to our chief political correspondent henry zeffman. went through by 23 votes, interesting stat of 52 to 40% victory there but the change is really seismic, potentially if this does indeed become law. this will be looked back on as one of those historic days in british politics because it is likely to mark a historic change in british social policy in british public life, this could well join those big moments of change, like the legalisation of homosexuality,
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abortion, equal marriage. it is a moment of that significance and that is why on both sides of the argument as you have heard, there is such an intense feeling because they both agree on one thing and that is the significance of what the house of commons is done today. between the parties, as a vote in keir starmer voted in favour the leader of the opposition and voted against but was this effectively still a matter of conscience, truly? you see them the labour party where more labour mps voted against this thin conservative impeachment against the smells the reflection that there's so many more labour mps altogether than there are conservative mps. but, you had a slightly less finely balanced bounce in the conservative party in the hundred 20 conservative mps voted against only 20 were in the labour party it was a bit
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more evenly balanced but it is truly the case that mps were left to work out for themselves what they wanted to do here and by the way, some of them found that really hard. i know that my sound a bit odd and a lot of people will think that they send mps to westminster to exercise their conscience and individual thinking on every single vote in the house of commons i'm afraid that is not what happens i think for an awful lot of them, the mps don't really know very much because they are there to follow the weapon they want to be loyal to their parties and with the government wants them to do but this is so unusual because so many mps, remember, a vast of the current house of commons are never seven house of commons until just under a year ago but we have the 2024 general election. a vast number of mps were asked to to exercise their conscience in a matter of such great significance and they have wrestled with this you can see
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visibly lots of them still wrestling with her today even as they ultimately did have to form a judgment either way. what is the next step or steps because is there any possibility that they could block it and when would it likely come into effect for people? procedurally, yes there's a possibility that a house of lords could block it because every piece of legislation, every law is to be signed off by both chambers of parliament and in the house of lords, there will be a similar process to that that it was the house of commons into the details, consideration, following the principles in consideration of amendments. all three would come in the expectation from most people i've spoken to as the house of lords will defer to the house of commons on the overall principal. but if thousand if the house of lords does tweak this, it will have to come back for another vote down the road and that is what an opponent of the legislation was referring to is another sort of
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moment of division for the house of commons. another thing worth stressing is when this would then be implemented under the current proposals that they've shepherded to the house of commons, it could be up to four years between the law arriving on the statute books and actually taking effect in england and wales. is there any possibility of a general election before it came into effect they could be overturned if the labour party, for example with the leader of parliament, the next prime minister being against it, is a definitely now likely to happen? it's always possible that in the future government can undo any law and i think, given some of the conservative government whipped all of its mps to oppose and said they would overturn it if they won the next general election and so, i think, i think it is unlikely but the overwhelming likelihood from today is that
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an assisted dying law will become law in england and wales before long. there's been a question of the period of implementation and what future governments might do but i think we should just well for now on the real significance of that. thank you very much indeed and to let you know if you do want to catch with the very latest on this, we have a live page on our website and it's got more on the numbers of who voted in what this means and what happens next for the legislation being scrutinised and the practical implications of what that means and it's an absolutely huge day in terms of the potential change this could bring across england
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the other major story we're following today is the israel iran conflict - european ministers are meeting with iran in geneva and the un security council is meeting at the request of iran. the discussions come as strikes continue between israel and iran. mark. thank you very much indeed, we drove in from jerusalem to tel aviv this afternoon and at various points along the way, was of the interception of iranian missiles in the sky above us and wisps of smoke in the iron dome and others really for and shields in action. and people were taking shelter beneath bridges if they were just in their cars and having to stop on the side of the road and a prussian missiles still headed our way and there was a missile that hit the southern city and that injured some seven people in a few hours ago, there was a missile that had quite directly
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in the northern israeli city close to a mosque. we understand there are three people who were severely injured and 20 people and a mild condition and another person had a heart attack when a siren went off. meanwhile, israel is continued to fire barrages of missiles and torah ron saying that it hit the security headquarters of the iranian regime and also the headquarters of the nuclear research agency and also reports that israel also assassinated another iranian nuclear scientist. but all the while, as the barrage of missiles continues, so do the wheels of diplomacy to try to pull both countries back from the brink in new york at the un security council, there has been an urgent session regarding the conflict and can speak live now to our bbc persian service colleague at the un in new york and it's good to talk to you, gives a sense of what it's been said at the un security council meeting
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from the head of the nuclear watchdog who was giving his assessment on the impact of israeli strikes on iran's nuclear facilities? read the tail end of that meeting happening right these flags and it's the israeli ambassador that is speaking out before him was the iranian ambassador holding up pictures of children who had been murdered in the attacks by israelis and now the israeli ambassador is responding to him but mentioning the top of the meeting, we but at the secretary general and deputy of his and as director of the iaea, what he said it was a very much the centre of attention because he was reassuring that so far that there hasn't been danger coming out of the sites that have been attacked by israel in terms of the nuclear danger for the civilians there but also a warning about more attacks that could potentially create health
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hazards and also explaining that in the iaea, they have not been dismissive of what is been saying to us media that they haven't seen no systematic programmes on part of iran dashing towards a nuclear bomb which is contrary to what the israelis have made basis of their tax that started a week ago. that is ongoing and the americans spoke in favour of israelis and the russians and chinese are closer to iran, the europeans tiptoed around it and said that military attack is not the solution but stayed short of condemning israel's attack and there is no obvious resolution coming out of this and its many performative and iranians ask for this meeting just to put more focus on what is going on. antonio offering to be for police saying we are on the course of potential chaos but there is a need to
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pull back and you and your colleagues reminding her of yours that for bbc cannot report freely from iran because you're not welcomed inside by the iranian regime but bbc persian plays a vital role in getting in touch with iranians on the ground give us a sense of what we're seeing today and what iranians are telling the bbc persian service. it has become even harder because the government has shut down much of the internet access and what we are getting in the first for five days or less available now but nevertheless, as we speak with people, the bombardments are continuing and the fear that is associated with it and major cities a tehran are basically waiting to be able to come back home while there is no clear end in sight and the civilian casualties are in the hundreds, children included and the fact that the
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infrastructure has been hit, gasoline deposed by israel the attacks, that means that shortages of gasoline and food and other items for people full and major cities and elsewhere. it is a precarious situation getting worse by the day because the longer it goes, the harder it is to be able to assist people and communicate with people and the information that israelis are putting out on short notice, this short area needs to be cleared and people need to leave and people cannot see the information because most of them are cut off from the internet and there very much in danger. i asked israeli ambassadors last few days, how do you expect people, civilians not to be hurt when they don't even know about your evacuation orders and his message was, we are praying for them. so, it is unclear how long they will go but the duress on the iranian public is getting worse. thank you very
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much indeed. principally, it is in geneva where iran's foreign minister is meeting his counterpart from britain, france, germany and the european union achieve international correspondent is there. give us a sense of the news coming out of that meeting. this is the last gasp effort to finding negotiated ways out of this escalating crisis in the foreign secretary of britain fougere to geneva on an overnight flight with the very clear message from his american counterpart and resin trumps middle eastern envoy heading up to accept the nuclear programme with zero enrichment and that is the message from the european foreign ministers who are gathered here and they are not going to seem like negotiations to iran, it's
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literally given no choice they demand that it as a sovereign right under its signet cherry to the treaty to peaceful nuclear programme and what it agreed to in the 2015 nuclear deal was, now it enriches up to 60% and european leaders are saying, you cannot keep enriching at that level and it has to come right down to zero. the talks are going on longer than we thought they had a short break now the back the table again. is europe even in a sense, relevant to the top level discussions particularly to donald trump and whether or not the last is going to join israel in this war? basically one person, one leader who has sway over benjamin netanyahu is donald trump is not the moment. yes, the united states a sidelined europe when it comes
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to the iranian file. i remember being outside of luxury hotels during the projected negotiations which led to the 2015 nuclear deal, here we are again and it's coming down to the united states and president trump went for bilateral talks with iran is actually right, he will be the one to make the final decision but he is here in that message that was conveyed from his own officials to the british, they brought that message here and i understand that the head of the iranian delegation is being told that if, this is one of the referrer from some sources that are being told that if you want the negotiations with the us to resume, yet to make a commitment that you will discuss zero enrichment and that is what is at play here, this could be the precursor to return to the talks and does the president trump will stay back from calling in his
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bombers to start attacking nuclear facilities in iran and does it mean that israel will be ready to stop attacking? there was a statement from the israeli ambassador to the un in geneva saying we still have a lot to do. there will were splits from the europeans, and mega macron, calling for, singular be a disaster to bomb iran from the us, the us to get involved in bombing iran but the chancellor of germany seemingly praising israel for, in his words, doing europe's and the west's dirty work. how much are the europeans themselves singing from the same hymn sheet? that didn't really startle germans and also the iranian, german as a close ties with israel and the use of negotiations had not worked, he
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said. there's one message that all three european foreign ministers plus the foreign policy chief agrees on that there has to be a de-escalation and they cannot allow this war to escalate and it could have far-reaching repercussions across the middle east far beyond but yes, they are divided on who has to be pressured in the circumstances iran to sink statement in the human rights council today and did what his counterpart in new york did today which is condemned the israeli aggression saying it's a violation under article 51 of the un charter that israel has attacked his country and so, these are the kinds of issues which are at play here and there is a real sense that the clock is ticking. any sense of the choreography throughout the rest of the day? will there be a closing press conference of
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any sort? we are hearing, we are not even sure that there's going to be a statement and they did not allow pictures to be taken of the talks as they opened and we do not know how long the talks go on in the foreign ministers are expecting to leave tonight and the issues on the table is so crucial and let us see how long they're willing to stay there. that crunch meeting in geneva, thank you very much indeed it will continue to bring you right up to date with all the developments across the middle east and where the diplomacy is trying to bring europe pop as it enters its second week but back to you in london. our top story this hour, the british parliament has voted and a seismic vote for social change here to approve the
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right of people to choose and assisted death. the assisted dying bill has gone through with 23 mps was the majority and this paves the way for to go to the house of lords and become law and probability of the end of the year it will take more time to actually come into effect but it is potentially huge change in people's choices on this question of assisted dying and mps approving of the bill and 314 votes to 291 votes an interesting majority of 52 to 48% and the labour mp who brought this bill to the house of commons said she was over the moon and it's been a particularly emotional week in nine years since the murder of her sister was a labour mp at the time. huge day for her but a huge moment in british
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