tv BBC World News America BBC News June 24, 2025 11:00pm-12:01am BST
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i'm rajini vaidyanathan in washington and this is bbc world news america. a fragile ceasefire between israel and iran appears to be holding - after donald trump angrily accused both sides of violating the truce he announced. we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the bleep they're doing. do you understand that? president trump joins nato leaders in the netherlands for a two-day summit. the israel-iran conflict and the war in ukraine are likely to dominate the talks. welcome to this extended hour
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of world news america - where we'll bring you live news and analysis from here in the us, the uk, and around the world. a ceasefire between israel and iran appears to be holding, as president trump landed earlier in the hague for the annual nato summit. shortly after arriving he attended a lavish dinner hosted by king willem-alexander in the ornate orange hall at his royal residence. nato secretary general mark rutte used the gathering to praise the president for his criticism of the bloc and push for more defence spending from european allies. our chief presenter lucy hockings is at the hague. after all of the developments in the middle east with the cease-fire between israel and iran, continuing to hold, concerns about earlier in the day, nato chiefs were keen to move everyone's attention away from those developments and
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focus on what this nato summit in the hague is meant to be about. reaffirming nato because my commitment to ukraine. president zelenskyy is here looking for some further commitments on spending and on military as well, possible further sanctions on russia, it's been a devastating couple of weeks for ukraine with russian drone strikes causing a huge amount of damage and civilian deaths. on cyber security as well and also on the big item here that has been agreed which is that nato allies have said that they will meet this 5% of gdp spend on their defence budgets. a big win for mark rocha, the head of nato, but also a big win for president as well. although it was not to be because once again, because president trump managed to steal the spotlight with diffuse social media posts. the first one is when he called into question the very definition of article five. this is a cornerstone of the nato alliance, that one country
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and nato will come to the defence of another, and president trump says there is numerous definitions of article five, you know, right, i'm committed to being their friends. normally when the us president arrives at a summit like this, they reaffirmed their commitment to article five. those comments raised a few eyebrows but then came this real bombshell. i have to say, here at nato, everybody was talking about that, looking at it on their phones and it was those true social post from president trump where he reposted a personal message she had received from mark ritter where he congratulated trump on decisive action, it was a gushing message. president trump is flying into another big success in the hague, we've got them all signed on to 5%. a real sense of unease, kind of queasiness about the gushy nature of this message from
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mark rutte, and i was speaking to the foreign minister of the netherlands and ask him when he made of it. it's typical for the president trump to do this but typical of mark rutte's style, his majestic style of communication was expressed here in this message to the president of the united states. there was a real sense of pragmatism about that post and also a reality check that this someone has been denied with prison trump in mind. -- designed. as for the first time ever an american president will be spending the night at a dutch royal residence waking up in the morning to have breakfast with the king and queen of the netherlands. tomorrow there's going to be quite a short meeting taking place between all of the nato leaders that president trump will be part of followed by this communicator releasing which they are really going to be focusing their on their
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defence spending pledge. so the hope is that the next 24 hours will go smoothly, there will be no more big surprises and no more controversy. the bbc's lucy hull kingston who was at that summit at the head, president trump has arrived there today. joining me now is ivo daadler, former united states permanent representative to nato 2009-2013. welcome to bbc news. there's lots to talk about when it comes to nato this year. first of all, let's talk about the increase in defence spending. it's something that the us administration has been calling for and if that message between president trump and mark rutte is to be believed, it looks like they're going to get to that 5% that they've wanted so badly. yeah, it does look like that and it's a major achievement, it's important for european and indeed north america including the united states to spend what is
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necessary for the common defence. and i think they're going to get there, yes, there are questions about spain and slovakia and indeed about the united states, president trump has himself said he won't do 5% because it's time for europe to spend more on defence, anything that gets to the core of the issue. the reason why this is happening is number one, because russia clearly is posing a growing military threat to nato, as we are saying the fight going on in ukraine, there is also the worry that after that fight, putin's attention will go further east towards the rest of nato and secondly, and i think this is important to stress, a growing worry amongst europeans and indeed canadians that the united states can no longer be relied on as a partner, and therefore europe needs to do more on defence and indeed candidate which is also committed to this 5% target, they are all doing more, but
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they are doing more not in order to strengthen the alliance of the united states but in some sense to strengthen the alliance in part because, in spite of the united states. talking about the united states, that message we just reference letter, does certain to show that the relationship between mark rutte and present trump is a strong one. yeah, mark rutte was known when he was president of the netherlands, as the trump whisperer. he knows what trump wants is to declare victory, that is what this president is most interested in. he's not interested in big results that may be helpful for everyone, he's really interested in being able to declare when none so mark rutte sent him a message and said you know what, you've got a big win, he said no president in decades has been able to achieve that, and that's true, no president in decades has called into
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question article five as indeed president trump once again did today on air force one on the way to the netherlands where he said there were many different definitions of article five. as i read it, and i read the treaty very carefully, there is only one definition which is an attack against one is an attack against all, mandating everyone to come to their defence. if there is a question about that, in the minds of donald trump, that is a problem for nato and certainly not a win despite the fact that more defence spending is coming because of it in doubts about the us commitment. and of course, president trump is at the moment on a high after securing that cease-fire which is still holding between israel and iran. but the weather he said he was going to end within days of taking office, that is of course the war in ukraine, still continues on. president zelenskyy at the summit as well. he is keen to be a nato member as well,
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ukraine. i want to get your thoughts where you see things next on that front? unfortunate, i think not much has moved, certainly not in a positive direction in the last five months since president trump returned to office. the path has always been very clear for how this war ends, which is maximum pressure on russia and maximum support including security guarantees through nato membership to the alliance and to ukraine. we haven't seen the maximum pressure on vladimir putin, and indeed of the contrary, the president seems to be more interested in having good positive relationships between russia and the united states and has denied the idea that russia is a military threat not only to ukraine but particularly to nato, and secondly, what we haven't seen yet is the kind of support for ukraine, and do the president said that ukraine should not become a member of nato. had ukraine been a member
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of nato this work would have never happened and as a result, those differences between the united states at our european allies on both ukraine and russia, they may not play high and fast in discussions tonight and tomorrow, but they're there and they're likely to remain for quite a long time. thank you very much for sharing your thoughts on the nato summit as
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the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says his you're live with bbc news. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says his country has scored an "historic victory" over iran, praising donald trump for his role. in a national broadcast address tuesday evening, mr netanyahu said iran's nuclear threats had been removed by the us's bombing raid on saturday. but three american
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officials have told our us news partners, cbs, that the pentagon's after-action assessment of the raid is far less definitive. that pentagon intelligence briefing was originally reported by cnn. its preliminary finding is that "iran's stockpile of enriched uranium was not destroyed..." and its centrifuges - used to enrich the nuclear fuel - are largely 'intact'. cnn quotes one official as saying "the us set them back maybe a few months, tops". the white house hasn't denied that such an assessment was made, only telling cbs that "this report did not rise to the highest levels of the defence department". let's get up to speed with our correspondent, jon donnison. a couple of days ago i was sitting here watching the president, who said that iran's nuclear capabilities had been obliterated. yeah, and if these officials and what they are
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saying is true, that directly contradicts that. what they say is that they reckon it has set back the nuclear programme or the ambitions to get a nuclear weapon may be three months, so the assessment before the strikes was for iran to do that in three months, and other saying six months. there's quite a lot of damage to the outside of this complex, but the centrifuges remain largely intact and that they haven't wiped it out, they've merely delayed it. so merely delayed it, but we have heard from the pentagon, pushing back on this today, have we? the defence secretary pete hegseth said that it's wrong, those nuclear capabilities have been obliterated, he used that word again, and he accused these officials of trying to undermine the present. no-one thing i think you can say with certainty is that the israeli intelligence operation has infiltrated the rhenium security system so well that
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day, if they don't know now, then they will soon. and the question is if they haven't destroyed those nuclear ambitions, are we just going back to where we were, what, a couple of weeks ago? and is it going to be enough for israel that they are stopping now, or is this going to resume two months, three months, a year down the line? and there has been some frustration among democrats in congress, at a briefing that was supposed to be held about all of this by the administration, has been cancelled. yes, and are certainly as was in any kind of consultation or congressional consultation before it happened, this briefing has been cancelled and there are many people asking the key question, was the mission successful? we've only really got the white house's word that it the moment, but as you say, i think we will know eventually because the israelis will find out, they'll share that information with the americans, but certainly democrats will be
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concerned about what these officials have been leaking to the us media. john donelson, thank you very much. joining me now is congressman brad sherman, democrat from california. he's a member of the us house foreign affairs committee, its subcommittee on the middle east and north africa. welcome, congressman. first of all he wanted to get your thoughts in reaction to those reports we've heard and we were discussing justin the assessment. i think your reporting is consistent with what i'm hearing, a number of factors are not being focused on much in the reporting. one of those is that all of iran's strategic and economic assets are now available to the israeli air force. israel has not taken out the refinery capacity, their electric generation capacity, or their
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oil export facilities, all of those all vulnerable. so iran has every reason to negotiate. at the same time, the stockpile appears to still be in irani and hands, that's enough for nine nuclear weapons, roughly, and it could be it's at 60% but they only need, if they only retain 12% of their enrichment capacity, they could make a bomb every two and a half weeks out of the stockpile they have. so economically, iran is really vulnerable and in terms of its nuclear programme, it's not set back nearly as far as people are saying. congressman, i'll just review what we've heard from the white house on this. white house press secretary saying that this alleged assessment is flat-out wrong it was leaked by a low level
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loser, it was designed to... obliterate remote iran's nuclear programme. they're not even saying if it's obliterate the centrifuges and the ability to enrich uranium in the future whether it is obliterate the stockpile. the fact is there were photographs of trucks going to forgo the day or so before of the raid, they moved to stockpile out, nothing from the trump administration said they got the stockpile. it's enough for nine nuclear weapons, roughly. if they destroyed the centrifuges, that diminishes the ability of iran to create the tenth or 11th or 12th nuclear weapon, but when you just say "the programme", what does that mean, the stockpile, the weaponisation capacity, the centrifuges,
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using big terms is what you do -- vague terms is what you do when you can make a strong case, use vague terms. we actually don't know yet either way. no, but all indications including vice president'svance's statement, we don't think we got the stockpile. that is what iran would use to create its first nine nuclear weapons. let me ask you about this, though, putting that aside, you can't deny that this has been a brilliant few days president trump. since that strike at the now a cease-fire which continues to hold, i know it's early into that, and that message from mark rutte which was very gushing, saying it was a truly extraordinary thing that he did at the weekend, something no-one else dared to do. really willing praise at the moment, isn't it? the israelis are going to praise
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trump because they want to get more things from trump. the fact is it's israel that destroyed iran 's airdefences and to them, it's israel that had this intelligence, it israel... this is a message from nato, it's from mark rutte. i didn't catch who you are reading it out for, but the united states hit three facilities. apparently you did not get the stockpile. it did do something amazing, but not necessarily effective, and many things can... the cease-fire is pretty effective, after 12 days of intense conflict, so far it's holding. we have a cease-fire, that may last days, weeks or months, but ultimately, we have to go back to the negotiating table. and we need i ae a boots on the ground, need them to share about the stockpile. i think
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everybody is amazed at the technology that the united states deployed and the military success and the total inability of iran to defend its own airspace, but that doesn't mean that iran doesn't have enough 60% enriched uranium to create nine nuclear bombs. and the heroism of american pilot should be recognised, but they can only bomb that which is at the site they are bombing. and if the stockpile wasn't there, then they didn't hit it. to ask you again congressman, around this strategy, it's a strategy that works because we've now got a cease-fire in place. also when you look at nato for example, it looks like the president's comments may have pushed european nations to up their defence spending. so many people will say, you know, he is on a bit of a high at the moment, i just wanted to get your thoughts on that. he has associated himself with with
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the israeli total destruction of iran's defence systems and he is associating himself with the technology that he inherited from prior administrations that allowed us to hit an underground facility that no other country could have hit. but whether or not nato countries are going to increase their defence spending, no nato leader has gone to their people and gone to their parliament and said here are the tax increases that we are going to adopt in order to afford a massive, perhaps doubling or tripling of our defence budget. and likewise, the administration wants to talk about destroying a programme without talking about the stockpile. which is the only thing that iran can use to develop, to create nuclear weapons over the next six months or year. if that stockpile wasn't hit, we have to return to the negotiation table and point out that iran's
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vulnerabilities and secure a come of that stockpile being turned over to the iaea. as for a cease-fire, yes, there's a cease-fire. we, nobody was saying two weeks ago, isn't it wonderful that there is no bombing in iran? so we're back to where we were, we can have a go. ok congressman, let's see how things unfold on all those fronts in the coming days, thank you very much for your time. let's take a look at the fallout from those strikes out the weekend. for more analysis, i'm joined by kristin smith diwan, senior resident scholar at the arab gulf states institute here in washington. what i wanted to talk to you about is the reaction in the region aside from israel from gulf states. well, i think they've been quite concerned by this escalation in the region.
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they quite literally are the states that have the missiles flying over their heads from both directions. we could see that all of the gulf states condemned the initial israeli attack on iran, saying it was an attack on iran's sovereignty. they also condemned the american attacks on forgo also, saying that was against sovereignty and qatar even noting that iran had the legal right to have some enrichment on his territory if it stayed under the iaea regulations. -- fordo. the picture is here they are aware of the blowback from these attacks coming on them whether on their oil facilities or on the us forces there in the region, many of them also on their territory. and also for a broader destabilisation across the region. so i think all of them are quite happy at least at this moment to see the cease-fire and will be hoping that that holds. indeed. and in terms of the key players in this, we know for example that
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qatar played a role in brokering the cease-fire but what else plays a real stake in the region as well? it's extraordinary to look at the role of qatar, only hours after iran struck the american base and qatar, the americans then turned to qatar and asked them to help to get the cease-fire with iran, the country that just struck it. so that shows you the complex world of the gulf states play and trying to keep really close ties with the americans, keep the improved relations they have had with iran, which they think is the best way of protecting them from iran in retaliation, and to prevent escalation. we seem qatar played the mediation role previously with hamas in trying to get some kind of settlement to release the hostages and to achieve a cease-fire. we know
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that oman was as well in helping to host and mediate the us iran talks and saudi arabia has been instrumental across the region as well for bringing the united states together with the syrian president in hopes of what they ultimately did get, the rising, lifting of sanctions on syria so that also could hope for late turn in a more positive direction, so we can see the gulf states are involved in de-escalation really across the region. thank you very much for sharing that really interesting and useful contacts and perspective. kristin smith, senior resident scholar at the arab gulf states institute here in washington. coming up in the next half hour, we will have more on what's going on in gaza, an update on the conflict there and also bring you up-to-date with the new york mayoral
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welcome back to bbc world news america coming to you live from washington. gaza's civil defence says israeli forces and drones opened fire towards hundreds of palestinians waiting for aid in two seperate incidents in southern and central gaza early tuesday, killing at least 46 people. both sites were operated by the israeli and us backed gaza humanitarian foundation - the ghf - which operates its aid distribution points in israeli military zones. the idf says the incidents are still under review. israel sees the ghf as key
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factor in its plan to end hamas control of gaza, but the un agency supporting palestinian refugees has condemned the controversial us and israeli backed humanitarian organization calling it a "death trap costing more lives than it saves." according to gaza's health ministry, daily fire by israeli forces torwards crowds of people heading to ghf centers has killed several hundred people and wounded hundreds more. meanwhile, health authorities announced the number of palestinians killed in the war has risen above 56,000 since the conflict began 21 months ago. earlier i spoke to james elder, unicef spokesperson who has just returned from gaza. thank you for taking the time to talk to us. you have just come back from a visit to gaza. how were conditions on the
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ground? catastrophic, worse than ever and it's so hard to articulate the people that they keep getting worse but two things struck me here. the obvious one is people's capacity has been smashed with bombardment, consistent denials of humanitarian aid and two things struck me in that one is water, we are looking at a man-made drought and if fuel which supplies and distributes water across the gaza strip is not allowed in and the mr to see children dying of thirst and retired about a couple weeks, the fuel is not being allowed in for hundred days and this is not logistical, this is political, this is entirely man made and fix very quickly in the a matter of stress because of the lack of access to water is critical and i've spent too much time in hospitals and sing little girls and boys these horrendous wounds of war because bombardments are not stopped rejecting by 50,000
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girls and boys either killed or wounded in the difference this time is that you don't just see those children, i heard them. hearing the screams of little girls and boys because of the sheer lack of painkillers as doctors and nurses tried to treat amputations or shrapnel or gunshot wounds. these are the two things that struck me most vividly this time. how does unicef work to get aid to people, now that the you gaza humanitarian foundation is supported by america and israel is now distributing a lot of aid that is coming in? unicef is fortunate that the mandate is so broad and we know right now that the lack of nutritional supplies for malnourished children, there are denials on so much coming in, baby formula, so many things. we do a lot of trauma work, education work, three
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quarters a million people, humanitarian aid is not just food in a box, there is an enormous amount we can do and it's very clear what we are not able to do because of this attempt to sideline a tried and tested humanitarian system. remembering that during the cease-fire when malnutrition did increase in disease decreased, those 400 distribution points, that's humanitarian aid, you go to her need is, this system has four sites. we see mass casualty events in every single one of there's a reason for that, when you deprive a population of food and force them go to a certain area we were it is a combat site, designate a combat site, and 20, 30, 40, 50 people get killed or wounded, though this is a combat site, this is ludicrous. it's the most ludicrous catch-22 that i think i can possibly imagine. so, there is no need to replace tried and tested humanitarian systems, something that is worked in multiple war zones and conflict sites as world war
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ii, it worked two months ago, but the very real risk is there is a push to sideline it and try to push a population to the south and have these militarised sites, but today, today we saw another mass casualty event at these and we will not see a decrease in these unfortunately because there is no way to get the system right as long as you deprive food to a majority of the population and force them to only place they can go us into a combat site, you will keep seeing these mass casualty events and it is important. you mentioned the one today, the civil defence agency in gaza say that at least 46 people shot dead by israeli forces as they waited for food to be distributed separate incidents and if you witnessed any of these incidents yourself and your time in gaza? fish great irony, we cannot see them because these are in combat site so to go anywhere in israel, you need permission from the authorities, so we don't get the approval to go to
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these places and civilians are expected to go to these places but what i can say is because a main effort to talk to civilians everywhere i possibly could, it is the same stories, old women in tears, how can i go to these places? men in the 30s having been there seven times and never receiving aid and grandfather saying it's the same people, people with knives, i met a little boy, 13-year-old boy who got money given by his father to go and buy bread and that's all the family had to stop people going to one of the sites and says i'm not going to see my mum starving, gotta bring her a box of food, chaos ensued, firing, he got hit with shrapnel met him in the hospital, he had injuries to his pancreas and stomach, just a brave little boy, want to set up with me will be tried to tell a story to get a medical evacuation after two weeks on the dail of gaza, he died. 13 years old died of those wounds and buffy was trying to get food for his family. this is not an isolated
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incident. hard to hear stories like that. we have talked to so many times after you have been in and out of gaza, what is your message to world leaders about what desperately needs to be done? the implication of international humanitarian law and allowing aid agencies to flood the the sad thing is palestinians have said to me, we understand the international humanitarian law does not apply to us. i had a fourth and glittery graduate students a james, it is so humiliating to starve, medical students say it is dangerous to dream. this cannot become a normal for palestinians to see more aware of the international humanitarian law that those who are meant implemented. a reminder of the conflict continues on in
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you're live with bbc news. us president donald trump has arrived in the netherlands for the annual nato summit. as a delicate ceasefire he brokered between israel and iran appears to be holding. the crisis in the middle east - including the continuing conflict in gaza - is set to form the centrepiece of the talks between world leaders. to discuss this and more, i'm now joined in the studio by. democratic strategist john mccarthy who recently served under the biden administration. and republican strategist lance trover. welcome to the studio. it has been quite a few days, really in american politics has hinted, so much as happened. i'll start by playing you something that made the
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headlines earlier today. we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the (expletive) they are doing. potty mouth presidents, very frustrated because after that cease-fire was announced, that violation, it seems to be holding now. what you think of the way he expresses frustration? this is someone who was very serious, he would be frustrated i can only imagine what must've been like going in that white house and it's been a very delicate situation. but this system and was very serious and i think if you are iranians, you need to take this president at his word they are not going to have a nuclear weapons of the trade reconstitute or rebuild, it's
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just not going to happen and if you are hamas, should be looking at this in the same way in same fashion you have been emboldened benjamin netanyahu with israel and an emboldened donald trump and they follow through on what they said they're going to do and they mean what they say. real frustration from the president today towards israel. i am a catholic school kids so i did not approve of the language but serious would not be the world that i would use to describe donald trump in most settings, including this one. i think one of the things we are seeing today is there more questions believing there are answers yesterday, dawn from harrow did this is a complete obliteration of capabilities and today, we heard him backtracking that in an earlier reports are suggesting that that might not be true. if seen frustration coming out of congress from both sides of the aisle and so, i think at the end of the day, donald trump is quite up to answer a lot of questions in the days ahead but serious and
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strong does not necessarily the posture he is in right now. we saw him the vice president say that the nuclear capabilities have been obliterated in but we are saying what we're seeing is that only those strikes set them back by a few months. the department is pushing back vociferously on that and i think you need to look at this as a whole, there are many facets to the nuclear programme and we dropped some many pounds of bombs on those facilities have a hard time believing that their only set back a couple months. moreover, the facets of 15 nuclear scientists have been assassinated by the state of israel, we have the military heads who oversaw the programme have been assassinated, you cannot get back the knowledge that they have lost. research and developments, labs, their research programmes. the presence of something is been
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obliterated, he needs to have the facts to add up to that in the intelligence. i'm outlining a bunch of facts but there are many facets to this programme and these are early assessments which the president himself disagrees with, the head of nuclear for you and disagrees with it in the head of the military for israel also disagrees with it. i don't know this reports are coming from but there are many facets we should be looking at like losing the nuclear scientists, the supervisors, they have suffered a massive setback. it is true that these are early assessments and we will know more in the coming assessments right now we have more questions than answers. but there's something to the ord adage that i think that before you make your first move, you need to think about your last move is going to be and i don't know if they put a lot of thought into the this was a very severe escalation i don't think this would be a plan to think about well, what next? i cease-fire came out of what
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happened on the weekend and i could be seen as a huge victory. absolutely, use of the secretary of state saying this morning, this is something that is a serious escalation they could have lots of ramifications but if there's a cease-fire that comes out of it, that should be something we should all be for. yes, i think if anything, there are questions they're going to be questions because we need to get there and see exactly what happened then also there is no question that this was a massive setback in the one promised those made by donald trump and benjamin netanyahu is that they cannot have a nuclear weapon. we are going to move away from international news and go to domestic news. new yorkers have been floating in the sweltering heat for the city's democratic candidate to run for mayor in a former new yorkers have been voting in sweltering heat for the city's democratic candidate to run for mayor. the frontrunners are former new york governor andrew cuomo, and zohran mamdani - a 33-year-old state assembly member for
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the borough of queens. the winner will then go on to a general mayoral election in november. mr cuomo is seeking a political comeback four years after he resigned as governor in the wake of a sexual harrasment scandal. mr mamdani was largely unrecognized among the wider public, but in recent weeks has gained traction with younger voters. joining me now is our north america correspondent, nada tawfik people are more familiar with andrew cuomo during his time writing new york state but mamdani has really come out and a lot of younger folders, just tell us about the two candidates and how they are playing. it is really a fascinating race because for the longest time, andrew cuomo backed by the establishment and the likes of former president bill clinton, the billionaire and former mayor of new york michael bloomberg was long seen as the front runner in the real shoe in, and along came mamdani
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who with a viral social media campaign has just really reinvented what it means to campaign in this day and age, particularly reaching out to jens c. his videos not only clearly talking about key campaign pledges of his to provide free childcare, free busing, city run groceries, for example but they do so in a humorous way and he really leans into his immigrant background himself in this diverse city which is resonating with several voters who have now supported him and for example, one video, he uses barley wood clips and in another, he speaks spanish even posted some outtakes of him trying to practice speaking in spanish. and what we have seen is over the last several weeks, while andrew cuomo support is relatively stayed the same, at least in polling, mamdani has
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really skyrocketed and it's really reframed this race at a time of the democratic party itself is doing soul-searching about what voters want and the time of donald trump, a left-leaning politician who is rewriting the rules a little bit in the same way donald trump did work, do they want an experience moderate who very much represents the establishment of the democratic party. where would you say these two ideologically differ the greatest? what is so interesting is that they both focus on affordability and that is the big issue that new yorkers talk about because the differences come and how these candidates are willing to go and it's interesting, i went to an andrew cuomo rally and they said he's always been supportive of them would andrew cuomo told me is that he is not a progressive, he said look, i passed free college tuition, criminal justice reform and i raise the minimum wage my time
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as governor but mamdani wants to go further because after donald trump won, he went to reliably democratic parts of new york that either swung harder for donald trump or saw larger pockets of people not vote and they wanted democrats to focus more on affordability. also it is popped up in this race even though the mayor does not have a real say in foreign policy but given the large jewish population, muslim population there, the candidate stances on the war in gaza have also been an issue that is come up. mamdani is been very outspoken about his support for palestinian rights and how he views that were as andrew cuomo has said he is unapologetically hyper supportive of israel. thank you very much for that update. john, your party primary, who
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would you prefer? i would say i am up for the centrist flank of our party in the lot of voters are out there saying in the city that is the bus big, how do we end up with this -- this big house we end up with these two, if andrew cuomo can prove victorious out of all this, it will be a victory for the moderate part of the party and they may be correcting some the things that brought them to the slow watermark of the moment. he represents a pushback on some of the woke aspects that gave way to donald trump and there's a huge part of the party that is craving new and exciting leadership of this young candidate represents and how do we end up in a place where the choice between a governor who had to resign and someone who was a 33-year-old socialist and so, i think a lot of democrats are still living with this tension. who are these two are you more afraid of, as republican? far be it for me to advise the democrats
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what they should do. you have an anti-semitic socialist who has fought to defund the police, potentially winning this primary tonight tells you all you need to know about the democratic party, you can colour growing pains, they are not looking to grow or change, they've learned nothing from thousand 24, there's still the same ideologue party from last year that cost in the house, the senate and the presidency that says to me, i think you're looking at this from a broader scope, the democratic party has learned nothing if this is who they're going to potentially put as their leader. so no individual election should tell you every lesson you need to learn for the path ahead and it's important to know that new york is an incredibly democratic place i don't think this really democratic with the democratic party would your for the presidential position, i don't think of democrats are going to find a way to be competitive in elections going forward, we need to return to the centre of the others
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excitement around this young upstart candidate, i don't think this is a message or a candidate to help compel democrats to win and cover states, we can talk a lot about how democrats might be losing the senate for the next foreseeable cycles, and these are the states that they cannot be content tied in a competitive and they can see why when i competitive in these places is because the further left part of our party has fielded candidates that don't necessarily reflect orders are -- who are base voters are. thank you both for joining us to discuss a range of issues. uk prime minister, sir keir starmer says he will "press ahead" with the government's planned welfare changes, despite a growing rebellion from his own party. more than 120 labour mps have signed up to an effort to block plans to tighten eligibility rules for some disability and sickness-related
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benefits payments. our political editor chris mason reports. flying off again, the symbols of the state, everywhere. a short hop from home, midsummer in a motorcade. the international circuit of summit brings the british delegation to the hague. but there's no outrunning the questions the prime minister must be tempted to leave behind. defence the focus today and tomorrow as nato members gather. but he is forced on the defensive over his benefits changes. prime minister, you're here at defence, spending billions of pounds more on defence, but you're facing an insurrection back home, mutiny from your own mps, the biggest challenge to your authority since you became prime minister. your benefits plans are doomed, aren't they, in their current form? in so far as we have already committed to increase our defence spending, we've accounted for that through the overseas development aid budget, and therefore we're not taking that money from welfare. but it is important that we press on and reform the welfare system because it
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doesn't work for anyone. so no backing down? it leaves people trapped within the system. that's not progressive, that's not labour. you'll have that vote next week and there won't be any concessions? we've got to press on with these reforms. the current system isn't working. in the end, it's a stark choice. you either remain with a system which is broken and isn't working and traps people, or we reform it and make sure that it's fit for the future, that it properly protects people who do need protection. that's why we're getting rid of the reassessment. vote next week and no concessions? and helps people into work. so we're going to press on with these reforms. and the vote next week? we're going to press on with the vote. we're going to press on with the reforms. thank you. back at westminster, labour might have a big majority, but just look at the list of those who've said they really don't like these plans. this is what a big mutiny looks like. and this is what it sounds like. benefits that put disabled people at a worse off position is not something that i can vote for. but everybody's very scared and i'm, like many colleagues, on doorsteps, talking to people at surgeries, talking
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to people, worrying about whether this will apply to them. there should be no shame in anybody saying, we're going to halt this now and we're going to look at the evidence. we're going to take proper stock and listen to the people that are going to be directly affected and come back with something better. the conservative leader, regularly under the cosh, could today point to a government squirming. we have to stick by our principles. labour are in government, they have a supermajority, they have an extraordinary majority, and they're not able to do difficult things because they can't control their backbenchers. it's not on the conservatives to try and help rescue them from their parliamentary problems. so this is what you've been told this morning. you've got a plan to. oh, to imagine the prime minister when he was told of this benefits revolt. as things stand, the numbers opposed to his plans
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and the plans themselves are in direct contradiction. one side, inside the next week, will have to give ground. discussing the new york primary for the new york mayor, the democratic primary, two candidates former governor andrew cuomo and mamdani, one of our panelists accused him of being anti-semitic and i will find a response and he was accused of this before and he said, i've set it every opportunity, there is no room for anti-semitism in the city, in this country that said that because that is something i personally believe. putting this into perspective his stance in that accusation. let's turn to some other important news around the world... it comes as the cease-fire between iran and israel is holding on and tonight, we are hearing leaks that suggest that
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live from washington, this is bbc news. a ceasefire between israel and iran appears to be holding - after donald trump angrily accused both sides of violating the truce he announced. we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the bleep they're doing. do you understand that? president trump joins nato leaders in the netherlands for a two-day summit. the israel-iran conflict and the war in ukraine are likely to dominate the talks. hello, i'm rajini vaidyanathan. i'm coming to you live from washington. a ceasefire between israel
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