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mark: i am mark halperin. heidi: there is someone else you might want to consider to voice of those characters. mark: mm. donuts. it's funny because it is true. but first, hillary clinton. she has done her first national television interview and held a short press availability in iowa city. in both those events, clinton assertively hit the topic that is dominating residential politics for several days.
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immigration. hillary clinton: i do not care how many people running for president on the republican side try to demean immigrants insults immigrants, cast aspersions on immigrants, not only the ones who are the most vitriolic, none of them any longer support a path to citizenship. all of them would basically consign immigrants to second-class status. i feel very bad and very disappointed with him and with the republican party for not responding immediately and saying enough, stop it. but they are in the same general area on the operation. they do not want to provide a path to citizenship.
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they are hostile toward immigrants. mark: there is hillary clinton making a reference to donald trump and using his comments to strengthen her position. heidi: effective, maybe. the more important issue is whether she is going to be able to tie him to all the republicans. whatever this guy says, that is what they all think and that is what she will be doing. on immigration, and on any other issue. the question of effectiveness, i do not know how much. what matters is the republican primary. donald trump is capable of stepping in the mud on his own and he is doing a good job for the party.
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mark: hillary clinton continues to worry about jeb bush a lot, more than anybody else. and when she tries to do that, when she overstates the linkage between trump and bush i am not sure it will be effective but certainly for rallying her party, for having something to talk about that she feels can start to build her election. republicans do not know what to do with trump and one thing the clintons do well, when they sense an issue they can drive a wedge, they use it. heidi: anything inflammatory he says. let's go down the list. immigration. he came out in his speech saying i am a rich white guy. that is the stereotypical image of republicans that they do not want having promoted. marco rubio spoke in chicago announcing he is running for president.
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he touched on jobs taxes internet regulation, and that big millenial target, college. you know who you are and so does jeb. >> bud light right now. top siders. heidi: who is making the strongest play for millenials? mark: i got to give jeb bush credit. he has done a lot of these casual videos and while they may not be totally smooth and
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pinpointing to millenials, at least he is trying. the rubio speech was interesting but i still think that he has not been as effective and internet brand. it will be fascinating to see how much he has raised when the numbers come out. heidi: the mistake pollsters make is assuming they are the same. jeb bush has been out front on social media. he was very aggressive on facebook in leveraging some of these other social media tools. that is something rubio will have to improve upon. he has been made aware of that. he is getting more onto the forms. they are in the running right now. mark: walker will be interesting to see what they do on social media. he has not been a big social media guy. which aspects of his record,
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which aspect of his vision will play for millenials? that remains to be seen. fundraising numbers, we have laid it out here with a bar graph. there is data from six contenders. hillary clinton is up on top in both campaign donations and money raised by outside groups like super pac's. she is followed by ted cruz, his super pac have raised $37 million. his campaign about 14 million dollars. there's an outside group has raised -- a 501(c) four that has raised $15 million. for rubio. we have not seen what his campaign has reported. bernie sanders campaign, about $15 million and ben carson, $10 million. and carly fiorina, $3.4 million. of these six who have released
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data, which one seems like they are doing well? heidi: there are some surprises in here like how did ted cruz race much money when the presumption was that this would be his achilles heel. i feel strongly that our campaign finance system is such a hot mess that you cannot put too much stock into these numbers right now. there is going to be all kinds of what the numbers look like now is different from next year. there is this dark money and the sugar daddies. they are candidates who should have flopped much earlier in the process but if they have a sugar daddy they will be continuing in the race. mark: m the two things that impressed me is rubio's super
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pac money. i wonder if the people who gave will keep giving. it is impressive. if you think about hillary clinton and how she got into this race. i think that is impressive area bernie sanders, $15 million, also impressive. coming up, more excerpts from the hillary clinton first national television interview. some comments from her on bernie sanders and more. but first when we come back, chris coons of delaware weighs in on the latest iran nuclear talks and so much more after this word from our sponsors. ♪
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mark: our guest hails from the first state. chris coons, delaware senator.
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the iran nuclear negotiations continue. they extended a little bit. not unexpected. you have said you walk away from a bad deal. you only want a good deal. based on the issues that are being discussed now in terms of instructions, sanctions, what are things that you think the tip it into some that would be a bad deal you? senator coons: a bad deal is we would not get access to sites. a bad deal would be one where we did not have clarity about a path way toward accountability for iran's past or for military dimension of their illicit nuclear weapons program where the iaea did not have a commitment to interview scientists and inspect sites where we believe there was previous nuclear weapons
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derailment work. a bad deal would be one where we had no further clarity about the limits on centrifuge research and with the breakout timeline would look like. there is a variety of issues like these that have not been resolved and have to be resolved in our favor. mark: you have laid it out well. secretary kerry and president obama say on all those issues it is a good deal. will that be good enough for you or is it possible you will reach a different judgment? senator coons: i will reach my own judgment. i thought it was important that we unanimously voted out the corker-carden bill that gives congress a real role. i will listen to their experts as they testified but i will reach my own judgment as to whether this is in america's best interest. the most important point here is whether we have effectively
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blocked off all the different pathways that iran might have toward a nuclear weapons capability. if this agreement does that, if it walks iran's path toward acquiring a nuclear weapon, i will support it. if it fails and i will not. heidi: you talk to your colleagues all the time. what do you think it will take once a deal is reached to get republican support from folks like senator corker? >> he is very well studied on this issue and it will have to be a very strong and solid deal to win his support. i do not speak for him but in his comments, in his questions he has raised a series of concerns. he has a number of concerns about the framework and the approach so i suspect he will have to be a very strong deal to win his word. mark: you have four colleagues
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running. a simple question, is there any doubt in your mind that he is qualified to be commander-in-chief? senator coons: the voters are the ones who are to be answering a question whether or not a candidate is qualified. mark: i'm asking you for your judgment. you are one of the american people. senator coons: what you're asking me is if one of my colleagues is qualified. a number of the candidates you reference could the an outstanding commander-in-chief but i am hoping for someone with more seasoning, more experience who served in the executive branch and the legislative branch. i do think the sort of experience that i think we will see in the likely democratic
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nominee whether that ends of the joe biden or hillary clinton would span both the congressional and executive branches. that is the sort of experience we shall for in our next commander-in-chief. mark: i know you're very loyal to your fellow delawarean. is he qualified to be commander-in-chief? senator coons: i am not confident he has all the qualifications that the american public will look for its next commander-in-chief but i think that is a judgment that belongs to the electorate. heidi: staying on the issue of bernie sanders but switching the topic to entitlements, a few weeks ago senator mccaskill said he is too liberal on entitlements. you yourself have been involved
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in many of these commissions to try and reform the system. is he too liberal? senator coons: we are not making progress if we cannot come up with a common centrist solution to revenue and spending. his position is sustainable if we increase revenue to the american government. i do not think the broad run of the american populace is going to elect someone who will have to raise their taxes significantly but perhaps he is the best qualified person to make that case and to make that argument. that we ought to be dreaming bigger and thinking more broadly about how we could provide support for our veterans, our senior and, -- seniors and the disabled. i do not think it will be successful in the upcoming election. mark: always thoughtful and we
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appreciate you coming to talk to us. thank you, senator. finally come back we have more clips from the big cnn interview. we will watch them together with you right after this. ♪
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mark: moments ago cnn showed the interview with hillary clinton. she sat down with rihanna keeler in iowa city. here is hillary clinton asking -- answer your question why bernie sanders is drawing such big crowds. hillary clinton: i always thought this would be a competitive race. it is organize, organize organize. you get people committed in the followthrough and then you bring more people. everyone has to run his or her own campaign and a will be telling the american people what i propose and how i think it will work and then what will let
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the voters make up their minds. mark: she does not want to engage with bernie sanders and it is a challenge for her to engage and talking about organizing is great but she is not answering the question which i think is always a problem for any politician but particularly for her. heidi: bernie sanders is a much bigger problem than they had anticipated and the reason is he is more like a pat buchanan. he is more like a protest candidate. it is not like one issue but it is a broader feeling in the progressive wing of the democratic party that they want something different. you read the polls. the party is moving further to the left and bernie sanders has promised that and she has not. she knows that and she has got to try and cap back into that base of her party. it is the grassroots of the democratic party. mark: if she could draw big crowds she would probably be doing it. hillary clinton answering the question why many americans say in holes they do not enter
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honest and trustworthy. hillary clinton: i was elected twice in new york against the same kind of onslaught. i was confirmed and served as secretary of state. it is understandable that when questions are raised people are thinking about them and wondering about them but i have every confidence that during the course of this campaign, people will know who will fight for them, who will be there when they need them, and that is the kind of person i am. this has been a theme that has been used against me and my husband for many years. i think voters sort it out loud. i have great confidence. i trust the american voter. 100%. mark: it is a tough question to answer but i found that to be particularly unevasive. heidi: this is an aspect of her
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strategy, when you do not make yourself accessible to the media and you're such a hot ticket they focus on things they can write about like e-mails, the clinton foundation, and those things look bad especially when you're not talking to the press about them. you're not being open and there is a existing narrative about you being secretive. mark: what do you think of her tone and demeanor? heidi: generally speaking, we have seen a different tone to hillary clinton. she is getting different advice than she did the last time around to be more accessible, to have more warmth and not be as defensive and abrasive with the media. mark: they are difficult questions, white don't get trust you and why does your opponent draw such big crowds?
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her demeanor -- she seems to be engaging the interviewer stylistically and she does have some text. that left that she is not doing here -- the laugh that she is not doing here. i think stylistically, pretty good. here is another clip from that interview. the answer on the use of private e-mail server and while she -- why she deleted thousands of e-mails from her time as secretary of state. hillary clinton: everything was permitted by law and regulation. i had one device. when i mailed anybody in the government, it would go into the government system. i did not have to turn over anything. i chose to turn over 55,000 pages because i wanted to go
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above and beyond what was expected of me. this is being blown up with no basis in law or in fact. that is fine. i get it. this is being in effect used to the republicans in the congress, ok. but i want people to understand what the truth is and the truth is everything i did was permitted and i went above and beyond what anybody could have expected in making sure that if the state department did not capture something, i made a real effort to get it to them. mark: some of what she says is maybe technically true but it evades and we did not play the whole question. it evades a lot of the issue. when she said she did not have to turn stuff over, i do not get the basis of the answer. sounds like she is trying to brag about what she did rather than defend it or explain it.
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heidi: instead of one big dump of e-mails, it has been a trickle. and several evolutions of the story and we find they released all the e-mails, they did not. there is more information coming. that did not include all of them. it feeds that narrative and keeps the story alive as long as there is nothing else out there that is dominating the narrative. it will be about the e-mails and about the clinton foundation stories. mark: everything here is about process. it is about the process of politics and scandal rather than substance and i think the best thing hillary clinton has going for her is that reporters keep asking her about process. a lot of that for voters is -- it is to her advantage. when we come back, "the
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simpsons." ♪
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mark: all is right with the republic. harry scheer is getting his job back. could ted cruz have done a better job than the incumbent? >> release the hounds. >> upward, not forward. and whirling towards freedom. >> forward, not awkward. upwards, not downwards. and always swirling, swirling for freedom. mark: i call it a try. we are on twice a day. until tomorrow for myself and heidi, we say to you, sayonara.
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