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♪ mark: good evening. former texas governor rick perry is dropping out of the presidential race. he made the announcement at any event earlier today in st. louis, missouri. john, not a shock. a lot of financial problems. why do think he decided to get out of before iowa? john: then, there were 16. look, there was no path for him. he came to that conclusion he tried his best to reinvent himself and overcome the legacy of his oops moment and bad
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debates. he did not do that. polls showing movement, financial resources join up. and it was becoming increasingly to imagine a scenario that would get him back in this race in a meaningful way. mark: a story about rick perry when he entered as a stronger candidate last time. his donors are up for grabs. people like ted cruz, maybe others can get that. not much of an impact on the race. john: i do not think it will change for anybody. mark: we wish him and his family the best. we'll talk more about the big news of rick perry out of the race. we'll move to the other big story. first of all remembering the , anniversary of september 11. highlights of the sights and sounds of today. ♪ [horn playing]
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>> we will never forget. though try as we may, we can never fully know how you feel, how you feel on this day, but we do know, we fully know, with the lives of your love ones mean to this community and to this nation. vice president biden: this is an important day of remembrance. but it is a tough day for all of you who lost buddies, lost friends. even tougher for the family members who lost friends. >> liam callahan, suzanne calley, roko kamaj. vice president biden: may god bless the memory of the heroes we lost. may god bless the united states of america and may god protect
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our police and our troops, wherever they are. mark: almost every year since 9/11, the gallup organization has asked an interesting poll questions of households, how worried are you if someone in your family or you will become a victim of terrorism? this year, 49% of americans say they are worried about that. that is the highest number that question has gotten since the year of the original attacks. john, what are your thoughts on this 9/11 in a time of incredible and intense politics in washington? john: being here in new york city, it is always -- i think the whole country -- there was a special resonance here. a lot of people we know lost family members and friends and were affected in a very personal way. it always brings it back.
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it is a day -- as you said, the sun is always shining and that reminds people of that day. these numbers from the gallup poll really show the extent to which the world is still feeling like a really frightening place. more frightening now than it has in a decade. you think about isis, the beheadings we saw. the obvious political thing is that foreign policy will matter in this presidential election but are many elements of uncertainty in our lives. a lot of americans feel as if more reason to feel more jeopardy. mark: the presidential campaigns -- particularly the republican side -- it is the isis beheadings that have spooked people and captured the sentiment of fear and concern. although president obama is often criticized on the republican side, he has aggressively pursued the war on terror and in many ways, more so than president bush.
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john: this is a nonpartisan statement. the people on the left will say this is true and horrible. people on the right will deny it. the fact is there's been a straight line, continuum of how obama has handled the war on terrorism. there are a lot of places where his policy has been as conservative by any republican organization would have been, but it is still the case. those beheadings, very, very vivid. the sense that isis has replaced al qaeda as a global threat and has an agenda to kill americans -- that is true. people are not wrong to recognize them even though most people in america are pretty safe. it is not crazy to think this is not a dangerous world. mark: the next president will be a lot of things, the second post-bush and third post 9/11 president. how it will do find their presidency and the way it has defined his presidency. john: we turn to politics. which caps on churning even on this day.
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the new republican numbers in iowa. in the horse race, donald trump and ben carson are still at the top with 27% and 21% followed by ted cruz free find out what happened to scott walker. take a look at what has happened to scott walker. back in february, back in may, as early as july, welker was in first place. now he is in 10th place with just 3% of support among iowa republicans. mark, what has happened to scott walker? mark: he has been eclipsed by donald trump and ben carson. that serves the other candidates. i think his jumping ahead in iowa-based on the one speech in january created an artificial bounce. not a lot of activity in iowa at that point, and he jumped as a neighboring state governor. his path back will be tough, in part because there are so many people in front of him now. and in part because he has a lot of national work to do.
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if you talk to the campaign, iowa is a big part but they need to improve the national sense of his candidacy and the possibilities of it. you have to do those two things simultaneously. it is hard. he has the boost those things simultaneously. john: he came into the race with a lot of doubt. we talked about yesterday. people thought he was not necessarily intellectually up to the task and was not a major league player. for that moment in the spring, he seemed to put the doubts to rest but he has made a lot of mistakes, a lot of flubs in a lot of interviews and said things that were provocative. most recently, silly things like suggesting a wall with canada. the chattering classes have been reinforced in their initial doubts and that's hard to come back from. mark: the favorability of a lot of people are down in iowa. another thing that the poll is between the two front runners, donald trump and ben carson. both of them have high favorability. trump is up to 60% and carson has the highest, 79%.
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it is better for carson, but there are some interesting things. john: the two most important things that stand out is among evangelical voters which is a huge bloc in iowa and among very conservative voters, carson handily beats trump. he beats him in a lot of categories. but those two categories, he beats him badly. if you think about the dynamics in iowa, trump has room to grow , he is still the front runner, but those two things suggest the capacity to give donald trump a run for his money. mark: i wonder if carson 's favorability will go down. he is likable. john: finally, there is some good news for the only candidate who got promoted from the undercard to the main stage next week for the republican debate at the reagan library will be carly fiorina. her placement is not fantastic but not bad either.
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she is tied for fifth place. her name recognition is shooting up. the number of people who did not have an opinion of her dropped from 55% to 30% since july. those who know more about her seem to like her. her favorables have nearly double. we are having a carly fiorina moment. if you were her, how would you play it on the debate stage? mark: just as she has been. many people have been waiting for her to grow. she has some and not as much as she likes. she has a lot of goodwill. i think she has improved the most as a candidate and i think her skills are as good or better than anybody in the race. she needs to be herself. i think she will be fine. john: the moment of truth will come when she gets to the point and she is not quite there yet where she actually looks like a threat to the people at the very top of the polls. because when that happens, there , will be a ton of opposition research that will come down on her head about her time at hewlett-packard. we have heard a little bit but
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about it, but not as much as the stories out there. mark: she took another shot at trump today and those two will be heavily watched next week. another note on iowa, tomorrow in ames is the big annual game between iowa and iowa state. attending, the republican party's pregame tailgate will be donald trump, scott walker, marco rubio and rand paul. that game is called the cy-hawk. what do you expect tomorrow with those people gathered? john: great tailgating, a lot of pork products, a lot of beer. donald trump will be there with the other people who he has been fighting with, except maybe marco rubio. how are they going to react? we have been talking privately about what it will be like in simi valley. what will it be like at the tailgate? mark: they may not be there at the same time. it is almost the case that donald trump will get the most media and crowd reaction. i'm not sure if this the best
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thing to do to show up at a game where it is all about being raucous and fun. trump is raucous and fun. maybe not the smartest thing they will do. interesting to watch. john: probably will not win the fight. next, the rarity in the television world -- an interview unlike almost any other and one we will talk about for a long time. joe biden with stephen colbert after this. ♪ john: vice president biden's
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interview with stephen colbert last night was a perfect tv interview, not just because of the intensely personal topics they covered but because it felt real. even though we expect you have seen at least some parts of this by now, let's watch an unedited portion in which biden and stephen colbert discuss how they have dealt with loss and their families. vice president biden: my mom said as long as you are alive, you have an obligation to strive and you were not dead until you have seen the face of god. it really has been in me and my
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siblings, my mother, my grandfather, it is -- life is -- no one owes you anything. my dad says no one owes you anything. you just have to get up and i feel like i was letting down beau. i have letten down my parents, my family. stephen: how? vice president biden: you just have to get up. think about the people that go through horrible things and they get up every morning and put one foot in front of the other. they do not have the support i have. i marvel at, at the ability of people to absorb hurt and just get back up. most of them do it with an incredible sense of empathy. i mean, it is interesting -- the people i find who i am most drawn to are people who have
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been hurt. yet, i will not embarrass you, but you are one of them, buddy. no, no. your mom, your family -- losing your dad. when you were a kid and three brothers. you know, it is like asking what made your mother do it every day? how did she get up every single day with 11 kids. stephen: well, she had to take care of me. we were there for each other. vice president biden: and she did an incredible job. stephen colbert: i had to take care of her. john: there was divided reaction to some parts of the interview. some people thought that seemed hokey or fake. other people thought it seemed human and other people felt it felt really real. i put myself and the latter camp. what about you? mark: i put myself in that camp.
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there is debate about whether what he was saying will mean he is going to run or not. this is so genuine. that is what made this -- people have had raw -- it is so genuine, unusual. not for joe biden, but someone like his stature and position to go on a late tonight show and let his guard down and say what he would say almost verbatim off-camera. john: you think about the tragedy that stephen colbert suffered when he was a kid, losing his father and brothers. a unique moment for the two of them to talk about what they have been through. a really interesting thing to me just because that was the first real moment where you saw stephen colbert shedding the old stephen colbert character. they had a genuine connection. that did not seem to me phony or stage-managed. it felt very human. everyone knew colbert would ask him about if he would run for president so here is another unedited portion of the
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interview where the vice president explains his thought process, complete with dramatic pauses laden with emotion. stephen: you said this weekend you don't know if you are emotionally prepared to run for president. vice president biden: look, i don't think any man or woman should run for president unless, number one, they know exactly why they would want to be president. and two, they can look at the folks out there and say i promise you you have my whole heart, my soul, my energy and my passion to do this. and, i would be lying if i said that i knew i was there. it is a -- it -- i am being completely honest. i -- i -- so, but, nobody has a right, in my view, to seek that
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office unless they are willing to give it 110% of who they are. and i am -- as i said, i'm optimistic. i'm positive about where we are going, but i find myself -- you understand. sometimes it just sort of overwhelms you. i cannot be -- i went out to denver and i landed in the military base. i met a whole group of military families which is not unusual. it was about 100 yards from the aircraft. about 2/3 were in uniform and the others were family members. this 1% is fighting for 99% of the rest of us. i was talking about them being the backbone of this country. it was going great. a guy in the back yells major
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beau biden, bronze star. i served with him in iraq. and all of a sudden, i lost it. how could you -- i should not be saying this, but that -- you cannot do that. john: so, watching that, everybody in the world watched it and came to the conclusion of some kind whether he is leaning into it now or less. you can read it both ways. how did you? mark: my guess is the perception -- the reception of the interview will make them more likely to run only because he does know what to run if he is a guy to make fun of joe biden. if he is the guy you can root for. that has been the universal reaction to the interview. john: i have been bearish on the notion of biden running. i was saying i did not think so.
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that interview gave me a moment last night that he might be getting ready to do this. one other thing about that -- hard to imagine hillary clinton giving a performance. just watch that -- imagine hillary clinton seeming that authentic in that situation which is hard to imagine. really quickly, the interview only got more remarkable. this is where stephen colbert essentially asked joe biden to run for president. stephen colbert: it is going to be emotional for a lot of people if you do not run. i think your example of suffering and service is something that would be sorely missed in the race. not that there are not good people. but, i think we all would be very happy if you did run and if you do not, i know your service to the contrary is something we -- to the country is something
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we should all salute. thank you very much. john: that is unusual. a television host of any kind essentially coming up as saying i would like you to run. how do you feel about that? mark: for stephen colbert, totally appropriate. i think at this point, a lot of people feel that way. even some republicans over the years have mocked joe biden because of the way he he has handled it, it would be great if he ran. i still think right now he is not up to door at one of the -- up to doing one of the hardest things on the planet to do. i agree it mainly think he was doing it. john: if stephen colbert was the anchor of the evening news and i would say wildly inappropriate. given the person he is, completely appropriate. when we come back, or discussion -- a little more discussion about the big news of the night, former texas governor rick perry dropping out of the race after these words from our sponsor. ♪ mark: the breaking news --
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former governor rick perry of texas is getting out of the presidential race. he is right now in missouri, st.
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louis. technically, he says he is suspending his campaign but that is usually what you would do. you see perry giving the speech that he is withdrawing from the race in st. louis. we will monitor that and watch event. i am surprised by this. i was thinking by the super pac that he would stay in. what do you think? john: i thought if anybody was going to drop out before iowa it would be him. i don't think he is a dumb man. i think he sees he has not been able to overcome the legacy of his 2012 race. he is not getting traction. i don't think money will necessarily help him. i think he understood that. the timing is a little -- it is never a good time to get out but i am not shocked. mark: he has been shutting down campaign offices and laying off staff so it was going to be tough to go forward. in addition to the no staff was the reality there were so many people ahead of him who are appealing to the same voters.
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john: the same discussion we often have around this office -- what can stop donald trump? we try to hypothesize. if you ask the same question, what could make rick perry the nominee? what set of circumstances could have occurred given where he is now? i find it hard to imagine even if i were being the most pro-rick perry person that would elevate him to the top of this very large field. and again, a field full of people who has a lot of his voters. mark: he loves his grandkids and i am sure he will spend time with his family. this is the first time in decades he is not being in public office or running for public office. i will be curious to see if he endorses anyone. he has been pretty tough on donald trump. it'll be interesting to see if he becomes a group trying to figure out how to stop donald trump. i would maybe be surprised if the super pac maybe turns its attention to donald trump. john: it is always, you know, you read the statement here.
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he cites the will of christ. that is part of the reason why he dropped out. i do not laugh at it. a lot of politicians over the years, sometimes it is best to drop out. this is one of the maxims of presidential politics. you have your time. if you miss your time, it is hard to get your time back. if there was a time for him, it probably was 2012 and he did not get it done. mark: it ends a long career in public office and longest-serving governor of texas and a guy who four years ago was in a much better position. john: he was in september four years ago, he was the front runner. mark: he never overcame the first mistake. we will be right back. ♪ john: we are live 24/7 on
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mark: we will see you next week. sayonara. ♪
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