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wouldn't you? >> we're trying to ban the word bossy when it's connected to girl leadership. >> i understand. >> absolutely. >> perfect. great. thank you. >> it's great to see you. >> great to see you. >> we have some upstairs. that does it for us today, make sure you join us tomorrow. right now it's time for "squawk on the street." ♪ good tuesday morning. welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm carl quintanilla with simon hobbs and david faber at the new york stock exchange. cramer is off today. market facing some headwinds this morning. sop of the retail earnings were a little soft but there are high profile upgrades. the nasdaq could potentially fall for a fourth straight day today. watch the ten year and the three-year note auction later on. and europe is roughly flat. the nikkei up abo2/3rd this
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morning. it's a busy morning for retail and we'll get some quarterly results from american eagle, dick's and urban outfitters. dupont saying the severe winter weather and the situation in ukraine will impact sales. and apple pushing record companies for exclusive first releases of songs through itunes. and all show long we'll bring you the best of softbank's interview, his criticism of wireless service in the u.s. and his thoughts on alibaba and yahoo! and the 300-year plan, carl. i know you like that. >> think the long term. it's a long game. jcpenney is a big gainer in the premarket. citi upgrades the department store chain to buy from neutral. the firm says it believes penny's deliver positive comps in line with guidance as they fix their home and kid categories and takes out what they are calling inappropriate
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merchandise. the title of the report is american comeback story, gives. it fits and we feel it. and it's not the first upgrade we've seen lately and, again, the squeeze will be on today. >> it's been interesting, of course, watching this for years now from the ascension of ron johnson and ackman into the boardroom and then that complete and total disaster that followed. to then mr. olman coming in to a number of my hedge fund guys in there all thinking it was going to be a big turnaround and it was easy to accomplish and watching the stock go to $5 and here we're starting to see some momentum perhaps and those saying, well, liquidity issues are off the table for now and they're generating cash or at least they may be. but there's still a lot of questions here. >> that's the core point that citi is making, they believe the liquidity concerns are overblown that they will by the end of the year have $2 billion in the bank and the trough of $1 billion probably in the third quarter because they're going to be able to push the comps higher and
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stay out of fashion, you know, that's the area that they're not going to compete so much on much more the home side of things and indeed kids, you know. >> and a lot of this circles back to what they are calling space disrupt aion during the lt couple of years when it comes to home and kids which is about a quarter of the mix according to citi. and got earnings from american eagle and dick sporting goods and urban outfitters. and courtney reagan at hq to break down the results. >> good morning, carl. the headline for the most recent batch of retail earnings, could have been worse. urban outfitters logging short on revenue. the retailer's namesake chain falling 9% but comp sales surging 20% at urban's free people brand and 10% higher at anthropologie, and wells fargo thinks the market is focused too heavily at the weaker results and overlooking impressive results at the other brands. issued a light warning saying
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customer reaction to spring merchandise at anthropologie and free people has been strong but given continued challenges facing the namesake brand the company remains, quote, very cautious about the current quarter. american eagle outfitters are surprising the street with both in earnings and a sales beat, though, the company did guide to the low end of the previous range so expectations weren't particularly high. american eag ffle's interim ceo noting difficult mac macro conditions but also saying merchandise and customer experience fell short of the company's expectations. same-store sales fell 7% and the retailer's conditions remain challenging adding severe weather has contributed to weak demand in the current quarter. shares lower on the results in the premarket. dick's sporting goods matching estimates and slightly beating on revenues and posting a strock 7.3% gain in same-store sales and posting strong margins something few others can boost from the fourth quarter. the retailer believes it can post double-digit earnings growth this year. that's probably one of the
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retail stand-outs that we're going to see today. carl, back to you. >> courtney reagan, thank you for that. for more on all things retail, let's bring in the cnbc retail analyst who always brings a fresh set of eyes to upgrades and downgrades. does citi have a point on jcp? >> the street loves a great turnaround story and i think here certainly we've removed some of the near-term liquidity issues, you know, certainly have things bottom, reassured vendors, yes. do i believe that this story is really taking hold and really going to turn around? not necessarily, look at the competitive landscape and look how they've permanently scared away a good portion of their customers, but the home business has been a wreck. it's gone to 12% of the business to 20. could it get a little bit better? sure. >> are positive comps good enough? how positive do they need to be in the remainder of the year? >> they're not. think about the last two years of comps down huge so just to say that they will have positive comps and that's the driver,
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that's just not enough here. we've really got to see an acceleration in the business. >> but there is surely with a brand of this size physically across the united states huge latent power. this was a stock that traded at $85 and more recently the peak was $42. >> sure. >> you can make an awful lot of money with small gains at the bottom if you went in at this level. >> sure. certainly, again, i think a -- you'll see a lot of upgrades just based on the fact that we've removed a lot of these near-term frightening issues like liquidity -- >> could i double my money? >> do you know what -- >> do you have a price target? >> no, i don't have a price target. i would stay away from jcpenney, if they do low single-digit comps and margins continue to decline, because the competitive environment is still incredibly tough and they're going to still have to jam the coupons down consumers' throats to get them back in the stores. american eagle's in for a tough couple of quarters, right?
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>> carl you and i three years ago stood here and had a conversation about margins being down almost 1,000 basis points in the teen space and we're still having the same conversation today. there are too many stores. we're talking promotional environment. and i think that teen retailers are significantly underestimating the power of fast fashion. >> they are looking at -- for q-1 sales down seven to nine. and inventory up seven to nine. and in an environment where it's all h & m, right? >> exactly. >> are they going to have to reposition the way hollister appears to be repositioning? >> it's interesting the teen space keeps saying to us, you know, we're going to shorten lead times and get our fashion better but it just doesn't seem to happen. they are getting killed by fast fashion, who is nimible and quicker, that's where the consumer and dollar is going. >> how do the same stores being up 20% at free people or 10% at
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anthropologie, because clearly there they are doing something right. why can't they bring it out to the entire business? >> if you look at urban outfitters, comps were down 9% but free people and anthro are doing well. they are fresh and interesting. so, there are stories that are working, you know, the footwork category is working incredibly well, but what the apparel players have to do is, "a," reduce stores. the footprints are still too large and second become more like fast fashion and more nimble and give the consumer the freshness and what they want. >> you mentioned stories that are working, macy's with an upgrade and dick's making good on its promise back in early february. >> the comps were up 7% at dick's and it's all about footwear. we've talked about that footwear is the new handbag, the new accessory. that's where the consumer is spending their money. there are definitely spaces working out there, you know, accessories, footwear and certain apparel players that have differentiated concepts.
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>> it's a tough industry to get your head around. nice to see you stateside, stacy. see you later on. dupont is blaming the weather for a challenging first quarter, warning that storms and frozen temperatures have delayed the start of the planting season. it also says the political unrest in ukraine has delayed seed deliveries. dupont runs a factory in the central part of the country. it's sticking by its 2014 earnings forecast of $4.20 to $4.45 a share. apparently they produce maze seeds and sunflower seeds and rapeseeds in this factories. who knew that globalization had taken us there? >> i have no idea. if jim is here, he loves to talk some dupont. >> enjoys it very much without a doubt. titanium dioxide. >> the toothpaste stuff? >> yeah. listen, you look at the stock and there's nothing to complain about. they've had a number of
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challenges along the way. but they've been able to convince investors to go along for the ride here and it has been largely a good one over the last year as dupont has done any number of things. we'll see whether this is a new challenge that means much of anything to shareholders. when we come back this morning david is bringing us a little present. the ceo of softbank, whose company the parent of sprint has a message for the u.s. when it comes to the wireless wars. we'll hear what he told faber in a couple of minutes. one more look at futures trying to get some traction here but mostly futures are flat.
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♪ masayoshi son is the ceo of japan's softbank. it's a company focused on the internet. it has 1,300 separate investments centered around the growth of that platform particularly in mobile. such as a 37% stake in alibaba, 42.5% of yahoo! japan and an 80% ownership stake in sprint. mr. son is here in the u.s. this week as he often is but particularly in washington, d.c., with a message. what is the richest man in the country of japan saying? well, he's saying your speeds here in the u.s. when it comes
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to what you're delivering to the home and to the phone are nowhere near what they could be if you let me do my thing. >> today in the state the wireless connectivity is, like, five megabits to ten megabits per second. the landline broadband is 20 to 30 megabit per second up to. average is a little slower. but we would like to provide up to 200 megabit per seconds. >> 200. >> yes. >> ten-fold what i may be getting on my current broadband connection. >> yes. that's the target we have. >> 200. >> yes. >> really? >> up to. >> you believe that that's a real number? yes, yes. we already have in japan today 20 to 60 megabits per second. and we have the technology
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already testing in the city of tokyo 700 megabit per second on the street, not in the laboratory. >> on the street, 700? >> yes. >> 700? >> yes. >> i can do anything with that. >> yeah, yes. >> how many years could you make it happen? >> you could start having those in the next couple of years, but in the several years we will have nationwide coverage of that kind. >> we're in washington, d.c., i would assume you're having this conversation with those who might make a decision about your desire for more scale. they've been pretty outspoken saying we like four, four's working well for us. do you think you can change their point of view? >> american people will have to decide, you know, should we have the world class network and, you know, with the competitive price. u.s. is the only country that
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post paid users' contract price is going up. this is the only country. all the rest of the world the price is going down. it's very competitive market. the speed is high. the u.s. is the only market the price keep on going up, going up in the high-tech industry price keep on going up which is very unusual. and the speed is actually going down. why is that, you know? america have to decide. why is that. and what's the solution. >> although it will be the department of justice and the fcc who decide not necessarily americans. >> well, it's a discussion that need to take place by american people. do u.s. people realize the reality? >> you think you can win that argument?
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>> i don't know. i don't know. i'm just throwing a stone into the pond. right? so i'm just making a wake-up call. >> there it is, the wake-up call from mr. son, of course, trying to win his way if you can through the american regulatory system. he won't say that's the case. today a big speech in front of the american chamber of commerce about what the world here in the states would be like if you were able to bring significantly greater speeds to bear both into the home and in to every device wherever you were. when we talk about scale and we'll have a lot more about this later in the program, we're talking about his desire, no surprise, to buy t-mobile or merge with t-mobile. that is the focus. and this is simply i think his case trying to be made to change the tide if you will which has clearly gone against the idea that there will be -- there will be an allowance made by u.s. regulators for four -- that was
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what i was talking about, four wireless carriers to go to three. >> the problem is the country is so big it's very difficult on get a new entrant. and his argument works against him. as things stand with four there's the possibility either of the other two could muscle up and take on the larger two. if you go to three, game over. you don't have the possibility of new entrants doubling down. >> his argument will be and you'll hear more of it, i don't have enough scale to make the investments i need to in my business and neither will t-mobile or sprint separately. the balance sheets and capacity is simply not large enough. you have the two giant carriers in verizon and at&t and why not create a third, this is their argument, that actually can bring to bear the resources both from the capital side and everything else to really put the money to work. if we can get speeds like he's talking about, that would change a lot. you would -- by the way, you get into the home, you know, you bring 50, 100 megabits into the home, forget 700 which he's
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saying they are delivering on the street in a test in tokyo, you are talking about a whole new world. >> can he offer a huge investment and a price war at the same time? come on. >> i asked that question. it's a great question. i'm glad you brought it up. he said i want a reasonable return. just a reasonable return. but it is a very valid question, sime been. >> i like the way he says they're throwing a stone in the pond which has a ripple effect image and given his wealth on the "forbes" billionaire's list he has a couple of stones in his pocket, so to speak. >> so to speak. >> and he's known as a guy who will keep coming. >> unbelievable. "new york times" deal book with some breaking news regarding sac capital changing their name to point 72 asset management which is an illusion to their address 72 cummins point road in connecticut. suggesting "the times" says they will not be changing locations. it was announced in a letter to
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apple is reportedly pushing record companies to offer new songs exclusively through its itunes store. "the l.a. times" says such a move will make those songs unavailable at least at first through streaming services like spotfy and pandora.
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the paper says apple executives think those on-demand services are hurting download sales pretty interesting for the $16 billion business. >> and downloads are down so far this year, 12%, 13% between albums and singles. 80% of downloads are through itunes and also hiding behind the idea that it's streaming their main attack. of course, if they can make it exclusive to itunes it means it's not downloadable on android and therefore you have albums exclusive to the iphone which i think is important. >> when i first heard about spotfy someone was explaining it meaning the ownership model is dead. you don't have to own a song. you can just stream it -- >> whatever you want, put it in. in fact, i have it and it is exactly that. amazon is quietly -- has begun a music service. there is also some speculation that perhaps if the price of the prime service at amazon is raised, that will be incorporated within it.
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so, that's something else to watch as we sort of keep an eye on this entire ecosystem of music. >> yep. by the way apple getting an upgrade that we'll talk about after the break. opening bell a few minutes away. "squawk on the street" is coming right back. right back.
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you're watching cnbc "squawk on the street" live from the financial capital of the world. opening bell in about three minutes. interesting day shaping up. some retail news, a couple of upgrades on that front. nasdaq could fall potentially for the fourth day in a row something we've not done since august, simon. >> let's bring in art cashin the director of floor operations with ubs. good morning, art. >> good morning. >> there are so many unresolved question the market is trying to grapple with and for the moment it seems trapped. >> it's caught within a pretty clear range so far and the s&p it's in resistance, 1883.86 and support is down around 1865.68 so we've got that little rectangular box that's holding us together. have to see what we can break out. >> and the ukraine, is that
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event risk now off the table or are traders watching it? because yesterday was a really low volume day. >> it was. and ukraine was not there. one of the best things for the viewers to check how deeply the market is concerned about the ukraine is to look at the yield on the ten year as a proxy for a flight to safety. and yesterday you could tell it was more about the chinese and economic data than about the ukraine. but i think you're going to begin to see that change as the week goes on. nato is beginning to do reconnaissance flights. the ukraine's calling up volunteers. russia may be moving some troops back again near the border. so, i'd keep an eye on that ten year and see where we're going. gold is up a little. >> plus, the referendum is sunday. >> it's almost a little bit like the marx brothers. the ukrainian parliament has threatened to unseat the crimean parliament. the crimean parliament has voted to secede from the ukraine and
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in preparation for the vote, so -- >> duck soup. >> it is duck soup, yes. >> what was the name of that country? >> fredonia. >> yes. there it is, thank you. >> right. >> so we'll keep our eye on the ten year. you mentioned the ranges. is the onus on the bulls or the bears? >> i would think the onus is on the bulls. centerman trader found a really little odd thing today. we made a 52-week high in the s&p. we are now higher than that high, but in the four days we got higher the breadth was negative and that's only happened a few times since 1940. and in many of the times that resulted in a selloff. now, the viewers can get a quick answer on this because it happens almost immediately, so if nothing happens over the next three days, you can throw it out the window. >> beware the ides of march. >> yes. >> art cashin from ubs.
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>> and in a few seconds we'll get the opening bell on a tuesday morning. good guidance from art to kick us off. the s&p on the top of your screen. sun coke energy hosting its investor day at the nyse and kera therapeutics celebrating its recent ipo. did you know seven companies filed for ipos yesterday? we're beginning to see some bigtime move to the exits. >> and in the meantime in the last six days $70 billion of high-quality corporate debt has been raised here in the united states so there's a big push by the corporations to make the most of where we now are. >> yeah. my favorite stat comes out of "the journal" today. three-quarters of the companies with ipos in the last six months were not profitable which is the highest ratio since march of 2000. which is fodder for obviously people who think we are getting close to some moment. >> fodder for those
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conversations about overvaluation. it is interesting to note, though, with all of this new supply coming to the markets, the fact is that we still have fewer public companies than we have in a very, very long time. got to remember how many companies have come out of the public markets through private equity, through buyouts, essentially, not to mention other purchases from other companies and/ormergers and there may be a limited supply of growth companies. we see so many companies staying private longer and much of their growth phase, their great growth phase, even the case of a facebook you could make arguments about many other companies, carl, happens while they are private and then they come public and yet there's this incredible desire to own them because there is a dearth of true growth companies. >> partly because ceos are underinvesting in the economy and all they've done is driven the margins higher and borrow cheaply instead of getting out
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there and having the capital expenditure. which is one of the great debates for the year. >> some of the big movers are analyst driven. i'm thinking of a macy's today the number one s&p component so far. wells does take it to an outperform. raises their valuation rake from the mid-50s, 54 to 58, up to 66 to 70. and in their words macy's has won battle of the midtier and there are some retail names that are working despite how difficult the overall environment is. and then apple also up almost a percent here. pacific crest ups to outperform and price target goes to 635. they see the iphone driving estimates higher, the iphone 6 driving estimates higher later in the year and one of the key lines it's a cheap call option on new product categories. >> trading at five, six times earnings. a relatively cheap stock overall. and as you said, the iphone 6 is clearly the -- >> six times earnings, aren't
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they backing out cash? >> 5.7. >> they must -- on what? >> on the downside protected from the ongoing cash production. conference call starts at 10:30. >> wow. that's not paying much when it comes to -- >> in a market that overall is trading 15 times earnings. >> yeah. this is 5.7, enterprise value over ebita, a little bit different but apple is trading at what, nine times. i don't know what the estimate is for next year. >> the fuel cell names the story will not go away. fuel cell comes out today with a bigger-than-expected miss. six cents. misses. revenues were slightly ahead. it's up 17%. plug i think is up double digits as well. ballard was up 10% earlier this morning. we talked with cramer about it yesterday, guys, the parabolic move in some of the names as, i don't know, it's not like they suddenly turned profitable. plug did have a major contract win getting its cells into forklifts at walmart. he was on "squawk on the street"
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on friday. that got the squeeze going, but for three straight days this has been going on. >> extraordinary. >> that's extraordinary. the stock was in pennies not that long ago, i believe, right? >> yeah. yeah. >> that's amazing. i did want to take a look, come back briefly to a story, we don't have a lot of movement in the stocks but it was something that happened last week, the disney, dish deal. the new contract between if you will disney and the satellite company dish. a lot of people continue to think about that deal because while it was complicated at the time, although i think our own simon hobbs picked up on it, there was this over-the-top offering that conceivably is now going to be able to be made by dish to its customer base that only has broadband. in other words, actually dish is going to be able to bring a series of disney channels if it were to package it over the top, meaning not with -- through their satellite but to customers or to anybody frankly that has a
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broadband connection. verizon is also kind of reached a similar deal. and then there's our own parent company comcast and the consent decree that nbc universal signed and whether it will have to follow through. i bring it up because it was an important point that may have been missed in that. the thing that we'd been talking about for so long finally seems to be happening, namely the content providers are starting to really think about and actually make deals to provide their content over the top. when we say that, we mean not via the cable model. not via the cable into your home but via broadband. >> but the important thing with desny is it's espn which is the glue that holds so many of those cable companies together. it's sports rights and the fact that so many people subsidize the sports rights in everything else they do and, therefore, the sports organizations need the cable companies bound in this pact to hold the whole thing
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together, very, very high valuation. >> paying over five bucks a sub for espn, yeah, that makes a lot of it work and obviously creates an enormous amount of value for disney its 80% owner. >> keep an eye on jcp, we mentioned the upgrade to a buy. price target from 750 to 11. we always talk about how heavily shorted jcp is one of the most shorted names down here at the nyse but good for another 6% getting closer and closer to $9 as citi believes the company can continue to deliver positive comps in line with guidance through the rest of the year and, again, the more controversial point that the liquidity concerns really are off the table for now. but as stacy said, you want to be seen double digit -- >> she was much more bearish than you might expect. they were talking about survival and they'll be able to do it with the rump of the business and making changes without any dramatic. >> she has been to be fair she has been negative for quite some time on jcp for a large portion
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of the time except recently the stock has run significantly. >> let's get -- urban outfitters, by the way, is down. they about deet by a nickel. >> yes. >> anthropologie comp up ten and urban the namesake stores down nine sort of take the wind out of those sales. they also mentioned snow days meaning store days that were affected by weather either all day or part of the day, went from 13 last january to more than 300 this january. i mean, that's some empirical evidence, i guess, right? better than just saying it's the weather. >> i suppose. >> as they put it a 100% increase. >> i wasn't here yesterday, of course, every day is a new chapter in the fight between ebay, its ceo john donahoe its director in particular marc andreessen and one carl ixawn and today is another day and, yes, we have another misive, if you will. this time it comes from mr.
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andreessen in response to mr. icahn perhaps it was yesterday. there he is saying carl icahn's 2014 would look askance at carl icahn's 1985 choice of a business partner. this is getting ugly. when ivan bosky is the first name it's gotten down in the dirt. suggested bosky look into the share of gulf and western, i won't go into the details of this point of the letter, you can find it on andreessen's blog, his weblog at but suffice to say this continues to get even nastier. we got ebay's response to icahn's nominees summarily dismissing the two of them as not overqualified and overboarded meaning they are on too many boards to begin. and andreessen is on facebook and hp and ebay's board, his argument would be, you want me on those boards in terms of my technical expertise, look who
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else is on many of the boards. there's not the conversation going on in the room about what's happening in technology if i'm not actually there. >> and it's quite common for them to kind of degenerate in this type of -- >> no, no. this is uncommon. no, no, no. >> remember carl icahn talking about bill ackman in a very similar way. >> this between -- between icahn and one of the best-known guys in technology and a director, no, this is -- this is new levels i have not seen. oh, absolutely. this back and forth and him now quoting his great friend bosky? no, this is getting good. >> raising eyebrows. it's a sign that technology companies are coming of age that icahn is targeting names that might have skipped his attention five years ago. >> and bringing up the idea should venture capitalists serve on public company boards, is there an inherent conflict perhaps in that activity or mr. andreessen's own words from one of his previous letters nothing
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more than having an activist shareholder on the board of a company such as mr. icahn and that those kind of conflicts can always be overcome with recusal. other people on boards would tell me it's not as easy as that. the conversations that take place at boards go on for long periods of time. you can recuse yourself from one transaction and it doesn't mean you won't be understanding what is going on or part of the longer term conversation strategically but it's an interesting question mr. icahn hassed. let's get to bob pisani on the floor to see what's moving. >> we were positive earlier and just went negative. asia up nicely. europe is on the mixed side. put up some of the big tech names. apple is up right at the open doing okay. cisco, and seagate and hp and you mentioned the alternative energy stocks, they've been on fire. fuel cells earnings were in line but sales were terrific amongst
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growing demand for clean battery and it's not really this board that you want to look at. it's the year to date chart, put up year to date, because you'll see numbers in the multihundreds of percent gains for these companies so demand is just exploding right now and getting in really as early as the beginning of february is where most of the gains in these companies have occurred. elsewhere it's another disappointing day for retail. you were talking about jcpenney, but if you really look at american eagles their earnings decline was nearly 90% even though it wasn't off the expectations it was down 90%. same store sales down 7%. bon-ton, down 7%. urban outfitters revenues below expectations and a good point, carl, urban outfitters, the flagship store was only down slightly, but the overall company itself, the main stores, anthropologie did very, very well. finally a very high frequency trading firm is going public, guys, virtu financial is seeking
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to raise $100 million in the next few weeks. they're a big market maker in high frequency trading firm and they make a market in thousands of stocks in many different countries. a lot of people have said to me this is the sign of a market top, a high frequency trade going public. number one, it's not true. getgo went public last year. and i think third goi in they'r to use the $100 million and make acquisitions. the one thing that's bothering people it's going public on the nasdaq. dick grasso is on the board of directors of this company. it's going public over at the nasdaq. a little bit of a disappointment down here. what's up with that? >> yeah. yeah. >> thanks, bob. let's get over to chicago, a big day for the treasury market. rick santelli is on the case there. morning, rick. >> morning, simon. you have a good memory. auction week, threes, tens, 30s and start out with threes at
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1:00 eastern. the intraday of tens kind bouncing off the mid277, 278 today but open the chart up and it does jump out. we held 2.75 and that's the significant technical level and today's range so far is within yesterday's range so we're compressing a bit. open the chart up and you could see why we've compressed at these levels and especially above us. lots of little resistance sites from 282 all the way up to 285. now, if we consider what's going on, on the yield curve, lots of people talk about, hey, steep is good. steep is good. that would have been a great comment about four or five months ago because you can clearly see on fives versus tens we're close to 30 basis points off the 142 differential between fives and tens as we hover in the midone-teens. this is significant. we'll probably not see huge
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spikes at the moment if we look at the spreads. let's look at the bunds versus the u.s. ten year. this is now the biggest difference between the two since the summer of '06! almost eight years. this is huge. have to pay attention. this will alter capital flows on the arbitrage. if you look at the euro the last two days it's come down a bit and the dax has gone up a bit. yes, definitely we need to pay attention to the german economy exports and the euro versus dollar, that long chart will remind you hovering very close to the best levels since the fall of 2011. hobbs, simon hobbs, back to you. >> thank you very much, rick santelli there in chicago. it's a rough open for industrial metals. let's get to the new york merck. >> good morning, simon. we are watching commodities very closely this morning and they are struggling to find direction. let's start with the oil futures first. we're watching brent and west texas intermediate mixed this morning. wti was managing to rebound off of the lows that it saw
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yesterday off of that china export data, but now back below $101 a barrel. traders are eyeing tomorrow's inventory report. they do think we'll see a build of about 2 million barrels and that's pressuring the price this morning. py also want to talk about nat gas futures because we saw them higher earlier on. traders saying they expect march to see record storage withdrawals because of colder temperatures to come but right now giving back some of those gains because here in new york city it's a little balmy outside compared to what we've seen over the last few days and weeks. finally, let's talk about the metals for a second because gold was higher on tensions in the ukraine. it's still higher actually but giving back a little bit off the 1350 level that traders have been eyeing really closely. last but not least copper also seeing a bit of a rebound today. this is off of the lows that we saw from yesterday and the lowest prices on copper that we've seen actually since 2010. that's mixed data out of china. negative data point yesterday and positive news coming out this morning so traders eyeing
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the controversial and highly potent painkiller zohydro hit the market over the weekend but numerous experts, state attorneys general and members of congress are urging the fda to reconsider its approval of that drug. sheila has some details. >> it's a very controversial drug but i want to talk about zohydro itself. it is a painkiller marketed by a small company and the active ingredient is hydrocodone, the same stuff found in vicodin. but unlike vicodin, this is pure hydrocodone in a higher dosage form. those are the positives of the drug. it makes it effect for those suffering from chronic pain and avoid some of the issues connected with acetaminophen, like liver damage. but it's been controversial from the get go the fda approved it
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against the advice of its own advisory panel. that's pretty rare only happens about 10% to 15% of the time and since getting that approval critics have been calling for the fda to reverse its decision. they are basically saying, look, we don't need another powerful painkiller on the market. the backdrop to all of this, of course, is the tremendous rise we've seen in painkiller addiction, abuse and related deaths. the cdc notes the drug overdose rates have more than tripled since 1990 and a big part of this is the prescription painkillers. why did the fda approval it in the first place? well, basically the agency was following its own rules. despite the public health issues associated with painkillers it's really tough for the fda to prevent a new one, a new drug that actually meets all of its own standards, without re-examining all the other ones that are already on the market. now, analysts i spoke to said, look, it's basically unheard of for the fda to technically reverse a decision unless there's new evidence about the
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drug out so for now it does look like zohydro is likely here to stay. here's the interesting thing when you look at zogenix stock it's up about 100% in the past year. there has been a little bit of weakness lately in the past couple of weeks as all of this controversy has swirled, but oppenheimer thinks this is now a good opportunity to buy the stock. keep in mind this is a very small company, though, only about half a billion in market cap, simon. >> okay, sheila, thank you very much. coming up, morgan stanley chief adam parker, he's using the b-word to describe some areas of the market. find out what he's talking about next. and more, of course, of david faber's interview masayoshi son, the ceo -- i tried. >> he's not going to like that. >> like john travolta. yeah. >> that's ahead on the show. stay with us. ay with us.[ male ] here at optionsxpress, our clients really seem to appreciate our powerful, easy-to-use platform. no, thank you. we know you're always looking for the best fill price. and walk limit automatically tries to find it for you.
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welcome back. markets a little bit lower on a tuesday morning. we did have some relative softness and retail results despite upgrades. no new policy from the bank of japan overnight. europe has been mostly flat for most of the morning and, simon, as we talked about with art cashin, 1875 once again puts
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into play some of the support levels. >> the big picture is we're very close to the record highs racked up last week. the key question is where do we go from here. what is the economy doing, deutsche bank suggesting we may not know truly until june. >> rick santelli has data in chicago. hey, rick. >> hi. january wholesale inventories up 0.6 a little larger than expected and last month was increased from 0.3 originally released and stands it up 0.4. that's the inventory side. sales side, sales for the month of january not nearly as optimistic down 1.9% and i'm sure there's going to be implications on the weather side there. it's just we don't know how much. and last month, december originally released it up was diminished to 0.1 of one percent. and we're expecting january read on jobs opening and labor turnover we want to monitor that
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and separations and quits. but it's running a bit late. we're looking for a 4 million number, and if you recall in november we had the first 4 million number since march of 2008. and when it comes out, i'll call the control room and i'll come back! back to you. >> oh, rick, thank you very much. our next guest says by the end of the year we'll be at 2014 on the s&p. that's a gain of 7% or 8% from here. adam parker is the chief u.s. equity strategist from morgan stanley. adam, welcome to the program. >> hi, how are you? >> i'm good. you are optimistic where the market will go. >> he have a 6% growth operating margins for the year and we'll get 8% corporate earnings growth in our base case so we're pretty constructive still. >> a lot of people are still poring over what the dallas fed president richard fisher meant when he said he felt we were feeding imbalances as a result of qe similar to what happened before the financial crisis. he said some valuations are at
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eye-poping levels. would you use the bubble word and if so at what asset class? >> well, look, i think we all romanticize that we'll sniff out the bubble the day before everyone else and get rich and famous for it. but at the end of the day i don't think 15 1/2 times forward earnings for the s&p 500 is in a bubble territory. i think there's been real changes to the market because of the quantitative easing and the number one most important thing, simon, basically companies have all pushed out their financial obligation for two or three years and the balance sheets are in great shape and the risk of bankruptcy is very low, that's been a big change over the last few years. >> just to point out on the valuation, the average you said we're 15 times earnings. the average over the past ten years is 13.9. so, we're pretty fully valued where we are, aren't we? >> forecasting that forward p/e ratio is pretty tough, simon. multiples that are way higher and when you compare it to other asset classes they may look attractive. one other important point there
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are a lot of other companies internet and biotech and software which are trading very expensive. but i want to let people know fast-growing stocks that are cheap actually underperform fast-growing stocks that are expensive. because if you are the fastest 5% or 10% growers and you are already cheap, the market figured out something's wrong with sustainability of your model. you don't want to use the p/e ratio for the fast-growing stocks that's counterproductive. >> to simon's point on the bubble theme, i know you are looking across asset, adam, and junk-rated puerto rico 8% yield investors are hungry for that. look at some of the other offerings in the credit space. if you look at valuations of stocks like tesla and other internet stocks facebook and twitter. something funky is going on here. >> well, yeah, you can find isolated securities. when you look at the aggregate equity market it's hard to say 15 change times is in a bubble. if we're about to head into a bubble i think you want to be long for a while so, you know, i
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think everyone wants to call it and talk about it. i think it's all about timing and if you want to call the top of a cycle, two things will be in place, the other is hubris the other is debt. hubris meaning management arrogance done awry, capital management, hiring, inventory, costs put in place that are not merited. and i mentioned the debt point, how can you call the top of the cycle when very few companies in the s&p 500 can even go bankrupt in the next two or three years? you can always have tactical corrections but making the big bubble top of the cycle call will be tough for a couple of years. >> to that point you'll be aware that the bank of international settlements put a figure of total debt around the world at $100 trillion over the weekend up 40% since the financial crisis in the last six days the top companies in this country have raised $70 billion. there are a according to bmy mellon an awful lot of individual who are working on a
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near zero rate threshold. they will be affected when interest rates rise, won't they? there will be chickens that come home to roost from the huge period of long, low interest rates. >> no doubt that's true. i think investing is all about timing, simon. if none of the debt's due until 2017 or '18 you have to guess about when people will care in the equity market and by the way between now and 2017 you'll gentlemen rate a lot more free cash flow it's not like the capital market's going to be closed. it's not a guarantee that things will be disrupted majorly in a fewiers. no doubt that debt's a problem. i think ultimately down the road you have to be worried about inflation but i think in the near term that's not a big risk. the fed's told you they are not going to move the front in and that's probably still supported. >> we'll see if they have to move on that. before we let you go. bottom line it for us, what's the best idea? what's the best area of the market to be in? >> look, we have a balanced portfolio. we try to beat the s&p. the top choice is health care,
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chemicals and growth tech. we really think that's the best balance to outperform the market and it's been working so far, we'll stick with it. >> good to see you. >> be well. >> morgan stanley chief u.s. equity strategist. retailers are under pressure after a tough winter, urban outfitters and dick's sporting goods, let's take a closer look at the impact with marcus lemonus he's the ceo of camping world and star of the cnbc series "the profit." we could use the profit on the retail sector. american eagles, earnings down 80% and the ceo said the customer experience is not there. you don't want to hear that from a retailer. >> i don't know what he means the customer experience isn't there. i'm buying off on same-store sales be a little bit lower and i'll give it to weather and you are coming a january a year ago. i'm not buying the margin compression. is it from poor inventory
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management? >> promotionary environment. >> you didn't know the weather was going to be bad. it's not that instant and there has to be an inventory problem in the system. what customer experience is he referring to? >> he's referring to the fact that earnings dipped so far and so fast and it's something we're seeing in the teen retailers is this not the right bils anymore? >> what i'd like to see is how many stores they opened in the previous six or eight months and what's the drag on earnings from the new store openings the infrastructure build and what's his sgna look like? his top line isn't off enough for the earnings to be down that significantly. doesn't make sense to me. >> if you are an abercrombie and you are up against the h & ms and you reposition hollister to be more fast fashion, are you comfortable with that or is that such a big move that it's hard to undo if it doesn't work out? >> i think it's a hard move to undo. i don't know that you want to take the cataclysmic jumps and
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maybe you want to do it in a category, expand or add a new category but i don't think you want to reinvent yourself and be in trouble. >> the t.j. maxxs of the world are setting an example. do other retailers need to move into it or is it about knowing your customer and income group? >> i haven't seen macy's numbers -- >> it's been outperforming. >> they have a great experience in store. fantastic inventory management, they know who they are and they are not overpromotional. >> inventory management is always the key, isn't it? >> it's the key in every retail business. >> it gets boring but that's where it goes. >> if you want to look at a retail company that outperforms over and over again it comes down to understanding their inventory and controlling the cash and you'll see it in the margins and they can afford to take a dip in sales because they can make it up in margin. >> camping world and specialty is helpful. you saw it with dick's. marcus, always good to see you. and we're into season two of the "profits." let's take a look at what you are working on.
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>> you are asking for 50%. >> your are arguing with me at 50% but i'm providing the resources. >> i'm letting my wife and life partner know what decision you're asking her to make right now. >> she knows. she can interpret, right? >> okay. can i think about it or do we -- >> no, you have to decide right now. >> you should ask for my two cents now. >> if you're going to offer it, go ahead. what do you want your name on her brownies? >> i have no problem not having my name on them. >> why would your identity be on it? >> because we're partners that's why. >> her identity's not on yours, on your place that you're partners. >> come on, stop. >> but it's not. >> i'm not going to get into that. i'm not going to get into a pissing match with you. >> yes or no? >> wow. >> brutal, marcus. >> he's a chauvinist in the beginning, not in the end. >> i wish our conversations were
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that dramatic. >> they can be. >> the tight shot of david kind of looking -- >> had the music behind would help. >> bomb bomb bomb! >> but you are taking up a retailer in this one. >> i'm taking up a retailer but what i decided to do was invest in the health snack food industry which is a multibillion industry. the gym business is a good business but it's a high failure rate. curves was the fastest moving franchise five years running about three years ago and when you watch the episode you'll see there's a curves angle. >> gyms have a high failure rate? >> 95%. >> but when they succeed great business like a utility. >> 95% failure rate. balis has filed bankruptcy three times so far, so the niche models -- >> "the profit" tonight on cnbc. we're down 14 on the dow. let's send it over to bertha coombs for a market flash.
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>> check out myriad genetics saying the u.s. court has denied a rival from selling a similar version of their blockbuster roca gene test. as a result, that's a cancer test for breast cancer. the stock taking a hit right now. currently trading down over 9%. big hit there, sara. >> all right, thanks for pointing it out, bertha. up next an early investor in uberand snapchat and what he thinks about the controversy around uber shares. and later shotbank ceo talking to our very own david faber about why the sprint deal absolutely has to get done more on that when "squawk on the street" comes back. reet" comes . in my world, wall isn't a street... ...return on investment reet" comes . isn't the only return i'm looking forward to... for some, every dollar is earned with sweat, sacrifice, courage. which is why usaa is honored to help our members
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start-up uber has faced criticism this winter for the surge pricing model. it says it uses surge pricing as a way to assure supply at times when demand is high. uber addressed concerns as a feature to its app to give passengers more information about when surge pricing is in effect and this morning one of silicon valley's most prominent investors bill gurley has a new blog post out defending the pricing model.
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he's an investor and partner at benchmark and he joins us for a first on cnbc interview. it's great to have you back. good morning. >> good morning, carl. >> it's a great blog post and it's almost a manifesto in its own way. you start out by saying the one thing we can all agree on people are passionate whether or not they appreciate the service and the pricing that comes with it or whether or not they hate the surge pricing in the first place. >> yeah. this is one of the fastest growing companies we've ever been associated with and part of what's driving that is just huge, organic demand. people love the service. jeff holden described it the other day as magical. it's something that people are very passionate about. >> you point out this new service that notifies people when surge pricing actually comes off. that seems like a bit of a recognition that maybe you needed to give people a little more than just suddenly surprising them with the price increase. >> well, first, let me make a few comments about the surge pricing model because i think a
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lot of people don't understand. so, first of all, all the drivers on uber are independent contractors, so they either show up for work at their own accord so we have to make them incented to be there on the product. two, 80% of all the money goes to the hands of the drivers. three, surge pricing's in effect less than 10% of the time. the rest of the time the company's working to lower prices. its new uber-x product is by far the largest product in their offering right now. the fastest growing and they've worked to lower prices such that in many markets they're 30% below taxis. so, you know, surge pricing is something that has to happen when demand greatly outstrips supply but it's not something that the company wants to happen which is why you have products like surge drop where we're trying to let people know how to avoid it if they can. >> you actually go back to a situation in boston basically the origin of surge pricing where drivers simply weren't
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showing up at certain times of the evening. basically what you're saying is surge is here to stay? >> absolutely. so, what happened in boston was the drivers were clocking off at one o'clock a.m. and the partygoers were staying out until 3:00 so we noticed this huge increase in unfulfilled requests between 1:00 and 3:00 a.m. so the team in boston came up with an idea of trying to offer more money to the drivers to get them to stay on later. it worked perfectly. we increased supply by 70%. the unfulfilled requests went away and since then we've studied and demand curves and they're very elastic and we're able to move supply and demand around greatly. unfortunately when you have really big events like new year's eve or a super bowl or really bad weather, the demand curve tends to go very quickly to the right. that happens in hotels and airlines and they also have dynamic pricing in those situations. what happens with this is even more intense because at the same
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time demand's going up, supply goes down because those drivers don't want to be out in bad weather either. and so you have this huge economic shortage and if you adjust price you can bring things into equilibrium but without it you would see passengers without cars available. people say understand we the economics, but what about the pr hit. i think the pr hit would be way worse if 90% of riders were told we can't help you. >> bill, you know better than i you're heading head-on into -- i mean, most major cities around the world, the last great closed shop is the licensed taxi profession in that city. and clearly you're causing friction. seattle i think is the latest overnight. certainly it's been a big issue here in new york city. how are you learning to expand the business and avoid the local politicians and the huge local pressure and an awful lot of local financing from capping what you do? >> yeah. look, i think this is the new
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reality for silicon valley. the technologies and tools are running into older industries where we're greatly disrupting what they had in place and offering a far better product. that's really no different than what tesla's seeing out there, air b & b, some of the solar panel distributors have run into the same thing from the incumbent energy providers. and silicon valley is having to learn how to approach these type of regulatory environments. the good news is social media is helping in a big way because the consumers are all in favor of the new disruptive products and they are coming out to speak on behalf of these companies. >> bill -- sorry. >> it doesn't answer the question, bill, are you going to organize? are you going to mobilize? lobby? how do you get to where you need to be? how do you actually push back rather than saying, well, consumers will say something? >> well, no, i think -- i would go back to and say the consumers are actually the answer. in many of the cities that we operate in, when the taxi lobbies tried to put in laws to
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outlaw what we're doing, the consumers who were very passionate about the product have come out in droves and let the constituency know that they find it to be a belter product, a safer product, a cheaper product and they don't want to it go away. >> where is the latest round of funding valuing uber right now? >> it was over a year ago i think it was around $3.7 billion. >> we can assume it's above that if it's over a year ago, correct? >> private company valuations are hard to discern. >> yes, they are. how long do you think they'll stay private? what is your advice to them about their growth curve and the public entrants? >> it's grown very quickly and what is really important to a company i think the numbers for the company are such that it could go public but you got to make sure you have all your policy ofs and all your processes in place in a strong and solid way before you go out.
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hyper growth tends to work against that. we've hired some amazing people who are working on locking those things down and when the time is right i'm sure the company will consider it but i'm sure it's probably not this year. >> i'd love you to weigh in on some of the questions carl icahn has raised on venture capitalists on public company boards. you serve on opentable. and he said the conflicts are insurmountable when you are on these boards. i talked to some other people who would at least say you are in the business of looking for disruption, looking for new ideas, looking for exits and somebody to fund those exits. those conceivably are functions that are in conflict sometimes with the board of a company you may be on when it's public. what do you say? >> well, look, it's a huge challenge because, you know, if you want to get a situation where there's clearly zero conflict whatsoever in your boardroom, my suspicion is you're going to have a whole bunch of people who don't under anything about your business.
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to go out and find somebody who has particularly insight in to what you are doing requires you to go get somebody who has worked in and around your industry or in and around a similar product offering, so it's a difficult thing to kind of figure out. i think that this is a situation where, you know, he's trying to take advantage of some data points that i just don't think line up that much. >> what do you mean by that? >> just that the people that are -- that are involved at ebay are very interested in seeing the right things happen for ebay and i don't think john donahoe or anyone else would allow anyone in that boardroom to do something that would take away from that. let's not forget the fact that he's probably led the most impressive turnaround in the history of silicon valley, right? the stock's gone from 13 up into the 50s. so, this isn't, like, you sit there and go, hey, look, they're not executing well. they're killing it. and so i really just think he's
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trying to take advantage of them because he found some stuff -- i mean, his own track record's got those types of situations all over it. don't think it's -- i think he's trying to, you know, take advantage, get leverage, make money but i don't think they're actually pointing at anything realistic. >> we're shocked. shocked at those comments. bill, it's good to see you. come back soon, we'll talk some grub hub. >> all right. thank you. >> bill gurley, general partner of benchmark joining us from palo alto. up next on the program the very latest on the unsolved and some would say bizarre missing flight. flight. comes with a four-tire rotation and a 27-point inspection. and everything looked great. actually, could you leave those in? sure. want me to run him through the car wash for you, too? no, no, i can't. get a dexos 1, synthetic-blend oil change, tire rotation,
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question as iranian nationals but importantly they did say that they were unlikely to be affiliated with any terrorist organization and most likely were trying to get to europe as part of a people smuggling ring, so it's important to bear that in mind. having said that, though, i don't think that the malaysian authorities here have totally eliminated terrorism as a causal link to the disappearance of 370. the authorities, the police chief said, at least two avenues of inquiry that they are still exploring are number one hijacking and number two sabotage. so, it's very much still an issue for them. elsewhere you've got to bear in mind that these issues over the stolen passports, et cetera, while they may be a legitimate source of inquiry they're pretty much academic for the families that continue to suffer really
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very agonizing wait for any evidence, any clues, that their loved ones who were aboard are still alive despite this very stringent search that is being conducted off the waters of malaysia. very broad, very expansionive and involving the u.s. 7th fleet i might add. it's turned up nothing. it's an agonizingly long wait. back to you. >> we're glued to the updates from you, thanks very much. more from david's interview from softbank ceo masayoshi son, why he thinks wireless service here in the u.s. is, in his words, horrible. we're back after a quick break. . quick look at the weather. nice day, beautiful tomorrow. tomorrow is full of promise. we can come back tomorrrow. and we promise to keep it that way. driven to preserve the environment, csx moves a ton of freight nearly 450 miles
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♪ any way you want it has to the way you need it any way you want it ♪ ♪ it is no secret that masayoshi son the man that controls softbank that controls sprint wants to acquire or merge that company with t-mobile, in a wide-ranging interview mr. son did not say that outright but every point he made on the subject was designed to bolster his argument for scale and why americans are entitled to his belief at least a lot more when it comes to wireless service than they're currently receiving. >> when you are living in, let's say, beijing, you know, the air polluted, you don't feel that much if you are living beijing
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all the time. but if you see from outside and see there, you know, you see the difference. so, americans who are living in the states every day don't feel that much about how bad, how bad, this network is here in the states. >> you really think it's that bad? >> bad. it's horrible. >> it's horrible. >> horrible, you know? if you talk to tim cook, you know, who sells iphone and ipad worldwide, he admit, you know, my same product doesn't work, doesn't function well enough in the state. i use this in japan and here. and say same product does not function the way it should be. you will see the windmill kind of symbol -- >> yes. >> -- right? you don't see that in japan. >> well, why is the u.s., then, in your opinion, find itself in this situation where, again, to use your words, service, our
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wireless service is horrible? >> basically u.s. is a duopoly, the big two, verizon and at&t, has the very position position with the scale of subscribers and network and they are enjoying great free cash flow. but most of the free cash flow they are dividend back to their shareholders. so, instead of reinvesting into the next generation network, they're enjoying a great profit and returning to their shareholders. so, the competitive landscape is somewhat wrong. so, their shareholders should be happy. but before they dividend back to their own shareholders, the shareholders value, which i don't, you know, criticize, but if there was more rigorous, more
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head-to-head competition, they should reinvest into their network. if i were in their position, i would, you know, reinvest much more aggressively. >> verizon would say that that is what we've done. that's why we have the best network certainly in the u.s. that's why we have always been able to beat at&t in terms of these surveys and service tests and things like that. >> between the limited competition, they have done the best, okay? they have -- they have got the beautiful network today. but i would like to raise the bar, you know, if they have been investing and be happy about it, i would like to raise the bar and say, hey, let's have the race in creating the world's best network that we could be proud of. >> can you do that at sprint without consolidating the
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industry, without a merger with t-mobile? >> well, it will be difficult without having a bigger scale. okay? so, i'm not here to talk about specific margin of whatever. but the scale, if we have the scale, we have a much better chance to be able to reinvest into the next generation network. >> and if you don't have that scale? >> it's tough. it's tough. so if we don't have that scale, we have to do step by step which would be a long shot. >> a long shot. >> yes. >> meaning a long shot in terms of it may not happen or it will take a long time? >> both. >> famously in japan when you turned around the vodafone property, the iphone came along and you embraced it. is there a new product that you
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conceivably could see down the road that would help sprint in the same way that, was it, telecom japan was helped? >> new product comes every year, and -- but iphone was a big leapfrog, you know, that when iphone was introduced, product were, you know, basically -- product and iphone was truly the first internet, you know, centric product, so we're not going to have that kind of huge change every year. but we will have a step-by-step products, which would still improve our lifestyle. but every -- every once in ten years or so, you know, big leapfrog things i think will come. >> it sounds to me, without that leapfrog product that may not
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come for another eight years or who knows, and without consolidation, you've got a tough road ahead of you at sprint. >> yeah. it's not easy. it's not easy. we can survive. we can survive. we can make a step-by-step progress but we cannot make, you know, super extraordinary thing. >> so, you won't be able to raise the bar? >> it's not easy. it's not easy. but, you know, i would say we will still be surviving and we still be making step by step but, you know, in the ideal situation we would like to have a level fight. >> a level fight. a message he is bringing throughout washington. address in front of the chamber of commerce this morning as well talking about broadly speaking bringing much higher speeds to america if you will. and, you know, the idea, of
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course, being that you one day could conceivably compete in the home with the cable product that is there, with the broadband product that is typically provided by your cable operator. if the speeds he was talking about were brought to bear, 200 megabits which is ten-fold what you are getting on your broadband pipe in your home. >> other countries like germany said if you can give us that investment, we'll give you a competitive advantage, we'll give you a more consolidated industry as payback. when we were discussing comcast and the possibility of that deal going through some were suggesting they would attach conditions to it as well, it's not inconceivable that he might succeed in that with that promise of investment, though? >> right. he would certainly be a competitor of comcast which augments their argument it's a competitive environment for us, we'll see, you know, the idea being, though, he's talking about bringing prices down and reinvesting enormous amounts of capital, that isn't necessarily a good recipe for making a lot
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of money. when i asked masa that question he said i'm willing to take just a reasonable return. now, of course he can borrow at virtually nothing in japan. he's almost got a zero cost of capital which helps, that's a competitive advantage, but we'll see. this is his argument. he's trying to turn the tide clearly on what has been a very resistant regulatory regime and extraordinarily coming out before we've even heard there are any terms for t-mobile/sprint deal if there is to be one, we'll see whether he can succeed in that and perhaps they can go back and try and get a deal done. >> yeah, interesting question on the regulatory front. it was a great wide-ranging interview special the part where he called the u.s. service terrible. horrible. >> the air pollution in beijing, you live with it for a long time you don't realize just how bad it is. >> all right. it's a great interview and more obviously on meanwhile, we've got breaking news on puerto rico, chief international correspondent michelle caruso cabrera has details. on the bond deal?
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>> yes, sara, originally $3 billion but demand was so great they've upped the offering to $3.5 billion. why when a commonwealth or an island has less than 4 million people in $70 billion in debt would investors want to lend them more because the coupon is 8% and when you buy the bond you'll get a discount so you'll actually get 7.8% and that's triple tax free so the rough equivalent of 12% to 13%. but once again pruk upping the offering by another half billion, $3.5 billion. remember, these are long-term bonds. maturing out in 2035. guys, back to you. >> i do have a quick question here, michelle. is it the high yield that is attracting so much demand here? is it the idea that the u.s. government would be a backstop to puerto rico? >> high yield especially when it's triple tax free in an environment where yields are still low even though we've seen a backup in rates when you look at treasuries. if you want to bet that the u.s. government is going to bail them out, that's part of the betting that's going on here.
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there's some people who think that but that is not absolutely consensus across the board. i think what you are talking about here are a lot of hedge funds who are eager for yields and don't plan on holding it all that long, certainly not to 2035. >> importantly takes them out of the bond market for a very long time. >> that's a very good point, david, right. this is about liquidity. why on earth does an island with $70 billion want to borrow even more? because they had a lot of short-term debt coming due so this is to structure out much longer term and to reduce the near-term payments to a lower, more manageable amount basically. >> all right, michelle caruso cabrera, thanks for giving us the details on the bond deal. urban outfitters is the biggest decliner on the s&p, down 5%. the retailer recorded weaker-than-expected quarterly revenues and issued a cautious outlook. sac capital the firm named for its capital and hedge fund manager steven cohen will reband
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from facebook to her own media company and an editor in chief, a best-selling author, now a broadway star, randi zuckerberg joins us here at post nine to talk about the latest in social media and, of course, her big debut on friday in "rock of ages." it's good to have you back. welcome. >> great to be here. >> you just got back from "west by southwest." i want to talk about that. you've done touring companies in the past, right? >> this is my first real role. i kind of -- i was really into
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musical theater in high school and then i sort of just gave up on my dream. i thought this is not a realistic life dream for me, but do you know what i think it's a great story because sometimes your dream comes back and finds you in roundabout ways. i gave a tent talk on how theater could enter the digital age a bit more and the producer saw me and that's how they invited me to do this role. >> you'll do two weeks, right? >> a two-week run. >> who will you play? >> i will play a character named regina, she's a hippie, berkeley protester. she's not going to take it. >> typecasting obviously. >> exactly. she's defending her beliefs. >> were you a big fan of this show or "hairbands" in general? do you listen to styx in your free time? >> i sing on the side for charity with a cover band. it's all current and former facebook employees. and we like to say we perform the worst of the '70s, '80s and '90s so i have a real sweet spot in my heart for '80s music and
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it's been awesome. >> it's interesting to hear the subject of your ted talk, silicon valley meets broadway, potential business venture for you here in the future? >> absolutely. if you think about it broadway is one of the only kind of holdouts in the entertainment industry where you physically have to go to new york city and spend $100 or more to enjoy that medium. everything else, all other content, you can get via mobile, via television, via computer, but broadway is still i would say ten years back in that respect. i think there's a lot they can do to bring it to the masses. >> that's not the point of it. it's the physical proximity that you can't actually translate through tech. >> you're right in that respect. there's something about the live theater and that experience that you miss out if you're not sitting in the theater. but then again, i mean, even when you look at the evolution of music, there are lots of ways that they encourage you, that they tease you through the radio, through digital downloads, through interaction with artists that drive you to in concert that broadway isn't quite doing yet.
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>> that's a marketing argument. i can see a contract coming. >> you know, i think disney is probably best poised to do this of all the theaters because they have so many shows on broadway right now, they can use some of their shows. we'll do a live stream of "aladdin" exactly. >> talk about austin. what was most interesting? >> i thought a lot of interesting about the south by southwest festival, wearable technology, everyone is talking about, tracking everything. the maker movement. just really incredible things people are doing with 3-d printers from printing human organs to printing homes, cars. i was having a conversation with brett moren about how they were printing 3-d rose bouquets for valentine's day. on the other hand, you also have this interesting juxtaposition because we're talking about everything that tech can do. and then there's this, of course, news about the missing airliner. >> yeah. >> so at the same time you hear about, gosh, here's a problem tech isn't able to solve. and that relly put an
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interesting dichotomy over south by southwest. >> what do you make of whisper, secret, snapchat? why is education being ephemeral. >> that's interesting. secret just announced on the eve on south of by southwest a huge financing round, and almost everyone is using that. now, i don't know if you know, i'm very anti-anonymity on the web. i think that just like in real life where we have our driver's license, our passport, we are expected to be accountable for our actions, i think we need to be accountable for what we say online, too, it encourages bad behavior when people are anonymous. >> >> a rise in valuations what we've seen in silicon valley, what do you think about the eye-popping numbers, $19 billion facebook's acquisition? >> when youtube was acquired $1.6 billion and it's such an amazingly valuable part of
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to gel. >> i don't think so. putin has been -- he's so way ahead of everybody in this game. i ask a question, like where's waldo, our question, where is gearhart schroeder. chancellor of germany. runs gazprom. this has all been done. there's all kinds of pipelines. i went out and went -- as soon as this all broke, i went and re-read petro's state by marshall goldman who used to be the dean of russian hrss in his country. in his book he said all the pipelines laid out and how, in fact, russia seeks to dominate europe. >> all right. when it comes to europe, the german economy stands out. i'm going to talk on the santelli exchange about the cost of energy. but what about what's going on with the euro currency? euro currency is hovering at the highest level since the fall of 2011. what does that mean for the european's biggest economy in germany? >> well, you know, the germans are actually comfortable right
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welcome to "squawk on the street." here's what's happened so far. >> there are too many stores. promotional environment. i think teen retailers are significantly underestimating the power of fast fashion. >> keep on going up, which is very unusual. and the speed is actually going down. and why is that? you know? america have to decide. why is that? and what's the solution? >> i think we all ro immigrant size that we're going to sniff out the bubble the day before
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everyone else and get rich and famous for it. at the end of the day i don't think 15 1/2 times forward earnings for the s&p 500 is in a bubble territory. it is 11:00 on the east coast. here's what we're watching this morning. apple getting upgraded at pacific crest today with a new price target of $635. the reason may surprise you. we'll explain in a moment. plus, is it time to back it up, you're computer files that is. the one and only walt mossberg will detail the three ways you should be backing up your systems and the easiest way to do it. soft bank ceo's son rarely speaks, but when he does he always makes news. we'll tell you what we told david faber about sprint and the horrible wireless service in this country. and louisville head coach rick pitino, defending champion in men's basketball. why is he all fired up about social media?
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rick pitino will be here to explain later this hour. joining us as usual, bertha coombs with a market flash on the dow component. >> check out bmcdonald's. best percentage gain there morning. up more than 3%. this morning it was speaking at a bank of america consumer and retail conference with disappointing news yesterday on the comps down for february. this morning it stated that it's actively looking at ways to optimize the capital structure. while maintaining the long-term financial strength. street seems to like that. back to you. >> interesting. that's not far from the all-time tie. thanks. joining us this morn, jon steinberg, buzzfeed's president and ceo, notice how i know that by heart now. jon fortt is joining us on the other side. start with apple today. pacific crest upgrading a to out perform. higher priced to iphone 6 could renew growth in 2015 and push the stock price above $600 a share. my favorite line, jon, they call it a call option on new product categories.
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of course, it's been that way for a while, you can argue. >> yeah. i don't know that i would personally get that excited about just an iphone 6 that maybe costs a built more though a loornlger screen would be interesting. you know, i think i'm interested also in the numbers that came out on itunes radio which you were just talking about yesterday. turns out they're beating spotify in the u.s. growth momentum is there. not anywhere near pandora territory but they have new features in ios 7.1 that came out yesterday that could help to spur that growth on further. >> the pacific crest argument is basically with the new version of the iphone 6 it would go from a four-inch size to close to a five-inch size. 4.7 inch. this is smaller than the cross between the phone and the tablet but it would get $100 more to apple at the subsidized rate. the argument is if you have an ebitda multiple of 5.7 on a with the $100 more for device you would make more money. >> has apple come out, jon,
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against larger screen size? we know the tradeoffs with battery life and all that? >> they were against it before they were kind of for it, i think is the way to borrow a line from politics. steve jobs was very much against larger sizes. talked about that. tim cook has walked that back over the last couple of years. we might do it. it had more to do with components. with some things like that in technology that they could definitely figure out a way around. >> 70% of the phones that are going to be sold in 2014 for apple are rebuys. 80% in 2015. they need something dramatic and exciting to be able to do that. there's not that much growth in new people. >> before we move on, what about the 5c? what about the fact that apple went after this market in some extent failed and we had john sculley of the former ceo on "closing bell" yesterday. he's going after endy with a $250 price point. is this going to be the growth or the higher end of the phone here? >> i don't think so, kelly. apple never really went after that market. we talked about here going to
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come out with a lower priced phone. when they launch i'd it, this is t not a budget phone. it was really to shift the model of just selling the older phone. >> what was the 5c all about then? >> selling a newer phone at a slightly lower price volume wise. they've done about as well as they did selling a year old phone. you would hope they would do better. from the moment unapologetically plastic at the launch, i wins. you're apologizing. >> they're not in the junk business, jon. don't you forget it. it's a big day for gamers and microsoft. sci-fi combat game titanfall hit stores today. they're hoping it will give the boost to sales of the xbox one. in fact, a study said the playstation iv outsold the xbox by almost 2-1 margin back in january. we know some of the headwinds microsoft has. >> and sony is out saying they're at 6 million units by the beginning of march. microsoft does not come out with a number of units since the end
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of the year. what's amazing is how many industries are hit driven. netflix, "house of cards" to get the subs. microsoft that needs "titanfall" much like they needed halo. candy crush and one-hit ipo. media and content is really governing so many industries now. >> film studios, so to speak, jon. >> there is that. microsoft is trying to sell a technology experience with xbox one. the voice control. the online connection. sony focused much more on the gaming experience which is especially key for that initial buyer group. and they've done better. "titanfall" is important because it loops in microsoft axur, uses artificial intelligence in the cloud to off-load some of that processing task so that the actual console that you have in your entertainment center can focus on rendering amazing graphics. it's important because if this works, it could open up a really exciting gaming experience. if it fails, oh, my goodness --
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>> and to jon's point about the sound and graphics, this game is a little bit of degeeking of the console. apparently the verge had an article out this morning. even if you're a bad video game player there are rewards and incentives. >> that makes kelly feel better. >> yes, no. now i'm all over it. oh, my goodness. do we have to talk about the execution problem. how important this franchise is to thernlgs should be to them, and utsz so clear that they lost this round. >> i don't think it's entirely clear yet that they lost the round. they lost the launch because it fumbled when it kams to rights management on the console to begin with. i think they fumbled in the pricing. they didn't make the case for it in the right way. they can't afford to really fumble this one. the game needs to work. they need to have enough axer servers up and running to get a smooth playing experience. if they do, the playoff that they will get technologiwise,
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experiencewise could be huge not just in gaming but the cloud in that xbox live experience. >> that's an important dynamic to understand. finally, the story, the president appearing on zach's web show "between two ferns" to promote obamacare. check it out. >> let's get this out of the way. what did you come here to plug? >> first of all, i think it's fair to say that i wanted to be with you here today if i didn't have something to plug. have you heard of the of foushdable care act? >> i heard about that. that's thing that doesn't work. why would you get the guy that created the zune to make your website? >> works great now. >> so ex-presidents go on mike wallace. this is the new mike wallace, i guess, swron. >> i like that transition of "titanfall" to the zune content. that's why microsoft needs to this work. the president does best, i think, in this format. i think he should do all of his press conferences in comedy form. >> i move any mike to the center
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of my shirt and homage to zach. it's branded content, basically. it's an advertisement for and now i moved it off. i got too clever. it's an advertisement for that actually is interceded t to the middle of the segment. they basically did this to a commercial to get after the young audience. >> slapstick. i see it. nice. >> the thing is this is maybe a blatant example but this is what so much -- i love "between two ferns," i love the product. but whether you're a celebrity coming on to talk about your movie, at its core someone is always pushing something in this case it's just obamacare. >> funny or die does a lot of branded content. with buzzfeed we've done joint come pains with them, they've run a campaign for pepsi and done a skit and it's run on buzzfeed. they excel at this. it's amazeing the president is doing this platform to do this mini commercial. >> look at what nancy pelosi tweeted earlier today. she said, number one, watch this interview with a link to the
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interview. number two, #getcovered. number three, avoid spider bites. this is the new way to further political discussions for better or worse. >> absolutely. i mean, when you think about the demographic that's watching online video, especially funny stuff, the fact that he got a message across. that the site does work. i guess we'll see, you know, if it continues to work. maybe they'll get a surge of traffic. but, hey, it's quite effective. you got a nancy pelosi tweet, you're a hit. >> jon, your prediction. will they get more views on this than he would have, say, going on a "60 minutes". >> absolutely. it's a short clip you guys are able to segment out funny pieces out. everything is basically a punch line. one thing they did wrong is commercial is basically right in the center. they should have interceded and switched it up from time to time. >> #getcovered is probably coming up on fallon soon. brings us to this morning's squawk on the tweet.
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welcome back. the s&p 500 trying to rebound today after a loss yesterday that put it just below the closing high. one of the big losers utilities. bertha coombs back at headquarters with more on this one. >> kelly, yeah, not a huge sort of direction to the market today. utilities today are the weak point on the s&p. could be some profit taking while the s&p utilities index has been up about 5% year to date. leading the way lower this morning, aes, followed by firstenergy, edison international, and nisource and sempra energy which has turned modestly positive here. could still go the other way. >> thanks very much. we'll watch it. backing up your files should come as second nature but most people don't until it's too late and the files are gone. back blaze is one way to back up the files and here with his weekly review, walt mossberg.
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walt, it's great to see you. i confess, i'm guilty. i have nothing backed up. >> oh, my god! >> i know. i know. but, you know, so much of it is web based or -- >> i'm getting on the train. i'm getting on the train right up there to help you. >> what should we be doing? >> here's the thing. this is kind of like, you know, floss your teeth or do all those things you're supposed to do and it's kind of a pain. but it's really easy now. i have a three-way system. first of all, the handful of files you're working with most often or that maybe matter to you the most, you should just put those on dropbox or a service like that which will keep them synced and put them on your other devices. but you can't use dropbox or a service of that type as a backup service for a huge number of
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file because it's too expensive. that's where two other methods come in. one is you need to keep a local backup in your house of your entire system so that you can actually restore your whole computer including the os. you can do that on a mac with time machine, on windows with something called system image backup. but the most interesting one to me is this blackblaze thing. it's a competitor of things like carbonite and mossy. it's really, really easy. it just backs up. all of your user generated files. all of them wherever they are in your computer. you don't have to know a thing about it. continuously as you work on your computer, you don't have to look at it, you don't have to set any settings. it's $50 a year. that's it. it's a limited number of data, unlimited file size. and it keeps backing up as things change. >> i think the industry really
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figured out this backup thing yet because it seems like, yeah, the top 5% most efficient of us, the "a" students back stuff up but the rest of us never really get around to it. on mobile it's easier because there are a lot of automatic services but should there be a better model even on this one? >> i think the best one is apple and time machine if you use a mac. i know you're familiar with it, jon. it just works, like i said, about back blaze, it works in the background. it will work wirelessly over your network so you don't have to have a drive plugged in. that's a pretty good model. of course, it only works on macs. microsoft has introduced one that back up your files in a similar way but not your whole computer. what attracted me to back blaze is for 50 bucks a year it just does it in the background. you don't have to set anything. you don't have to say, this
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folder or that folder. it just does it. i backed up 300 gigabytes, jon, from a mac book air in about 12 days and i used the macbook air all the time during that time and didn't b think twice about it until i got a message saying, hey, the backup is done. and after that, it just keeps adding, keeps monitoring. >> 12 days, incredible. >> walt, when you think about a drop box or a box, are there things that differentiate those services from each other or are they essentially the same? is it sort of a cokocome come motityized service? the main difference between drop back and box is that box is primarily aimed at companies. dropbox is aimed at consumers. they overlap a little. there's a consumer way to use box. there's a corporate way to use dropbox. but to me that's the principle difference there. there are others. you know, google drive,
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microsoft one drive. but again, those are not heavy-duty cloud backup services. your heavy duty ones are like backblaze and crash plan and carbonite and those kinds of things. jon, i agree with you. the os guys should get into this themselves. it should just be part of the computer. so maybe -- maybe apple or microsoft should buy backblaze, i don't know. >> there we go. >> if we had a nickle for every time a sentence was started that way. >> when walt says it though. >> maybe we should buy walt mossberg. >> catch your train. see you in a couple of hours. >> i'm newly inspired. i have no excuse for not having backed this stuff up. when we come back, edward snowden spoke from his exile in russia at south by southwest yesterday saying the nsa happening has hurt the u.s. economy. strong words but does snowden actually have a point? the former u.s. chief technology officer will weigh? after a break. as we get closer to the ncaa
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edward snowden is speaking from exile in russia yesterday at south by southwest where he touched on national security and the economy and shot back at the current nsa director general keith alexander who has accused snowden of weakening our national security. take a listen. >> and that's what we're running into today. so when he says, you know, these things have weakened national security, these are not improving the national security, improving communication not just for americans but everyone in the world because we rely on the same standards. we rely on the ability to trust our communications and we without that we don't have
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anything. our economy cannot succeed. >> here to weigh in on this the former u.s. chief technology officer, now senior adviser at the advisory board company. aneesh, it's great to have you back. unbelievable teleconference. they ran it through seven proxy servers so no one would know exactly where he was and he was critical on the nsa, on anything you heard, did snowden have a point yesterday? >> well, i'm not a big fan. i would say this. we didn't really hear a lot yesterday that was new. i think the most important thing to remember is that it is true, the internet is a great source of economic growth and a huge potential for the american economy move forward. and it is important to understand that the internet is governed in a very unique way. it is a multi-stakeholder model. that brings all parties to the table to have these thoughtful conversations about privacy, security, and on-going standards improvements. i'm very proud of that framework. et cetera somethi
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it's something the united states has been a champion of and one of the reasons why the internet has been so successful. >> aneesh, i'm interested on your take. this looked like a big pr black eye for the u.s. government to me. here's edward snowden with the constitution behind him speaking at a tech conference to a sympathetic audience of people who feel like their interests have been hacked, attacked by the u.s. government. what should the government do here? >> well, i think the president is doing the right thing. now, remember, we have an independent -- >> comedy video. >> well, let me react to the process. we've got a very thoughtful review board who has come up with some pretty good recommendations and how do we protect privacy and lifl liberties while preserving our ability to protect our country. these are organizations that are put in place for this very purpose. they were constituted long before snowden took the actions that he did. and they're provide that kind of input in terms of how we strike that balance. we already saw the independent review board come out against
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the collection of meta data on phone records as an example and there will be a process to review what alternatives there might be to preserve security while strength thenning the economy and internet in particular. >> aneesh, to jon's point though that sounds like a lot of policy talk where we know the real protagonist in this should be edward snowden revealing to the average american and to a lot of tech companies just the extent to which this stuff is going on. so from that point of view, he continues to drive the conversation because people feel like he's giving them more reliable information than they can get otherwise. >> i would have said, you know, he had plenty of options to present his feedback through more traditional and formal channels, to provide that kind of input to members of conversation, to the privacy and civil liberties oversight board and to the nsa itself and to the record thus far there's been no evidence he pursued the appropriate channels to bring his concerns to the attention. look, it is certainly an important conversation to be had
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regardless about how we protect our civil liberties and privacy and security while continuing to see economic growth on the internet. that debate has been happening and i'm pretty confident we're making a pretty good step in the right direction. just take, for example, all the encryption standards but in place to protect health information and that's been going on in a multi-stakeholder way for the past couple of years. we're making great progress. it is unfortunate that this circumstance has led us to where we are. >> under any circumstances would you be in favor of giving him amnesty, letting him come home? >> i'm not a lawyer but it is pretty clear having gone through the security process that what he did was wrong and there are consequences for our actions. and he knew those consequences. i do think he had options to come out and share his concerns with people in the chain of command and processes that were available like the privacy and civil liberties board which is created as an independent entity for this very purpose. so, you know, i don't know anything about the legal
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framework but here's what i will say to my friends in the tech community. the good news is that there's an opportunity for us to continue to engage in policy to bhak sure that we've got a stroerng and more reliable internet for long-term economic growth. and if there's one area of concern that i have is, i will say we've got to pay special attention to the cloud computing providers in the american economy who took a bit of a hit on a pr side as they grew in overseas markets. we've got to do everything we can to make sure that our vibrant cloud computing industry has the support they need to be successful as they approach international markets and i'm sure the administration will do more of that. >> aneesh, always good to talk to me. thanks for your time today. former u.s. chief technology officer. >> thank you. rick santelli in the meantime keeping an eye on markets this morning. rick, after the s&p 500, perhaps you're trying to reclaim a high. what are you keeping an eye on today? >> i'm actually going to keep an eye on the german economy from a
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welcome back. look at markets slightly higher across the board here. shaking off weakness on conflicting board. here onset to try and make sense of it all, welcome. >> thank you. >> so we've had people starting
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to position -- you guys know it best. you have your economic surprise index. great proxy for the s&p 500. it fell substantially january and february. now starting to make a rebound. do you think there could be a break here? >> i'm always cautious. it's a great indicator for fx strategies and that's what it's designed for. people truly misinterpret what the data actually suggests. it's clearly been distorted by some of the weather data we've been seeing. so that's why it had that plunge. you're going to get a bit of a bounce. it's really complicated, derivative calculus. we don't want to go down that path. >> i just fell asleep. >> i got confused. i got very confused. so i think the other issue and the better data is like capital spending data where we looked at 725 companies capital spending intentions. they're accelerating from where they were late last year. if you take out energy, it's a
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large capital intensive nench but is a distorting factor. you remove that one and look at the companies. when you're sbreinterested in acceleration. to corporates are getting more confidence even. the manpower survey last night. >> when exxon pulls in cap x for the year that gets all the attention. >> right. >> you have to strip that out. >> yes. >> again, we look at what companies are -- aggregate together. and we don't listen. nobody is spending nine because that's not really what's going on. >> we are looking at fuel cell today. the squeeze on some of the fuel cell names. richard fisher talking about eye-popping valuations. a lot of the ipos not profitable. how does that all play into your model? >> we are concerned about particularly our euphoria mode it generates a high probability of -- >> it's in you forea mode? >> yes. >> when was the last time it was in euphoria mode?
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>> in november/december time frame. it's a one year lead indicator. it's not a one-month lead indicator. it slipped briefly out of euphoria for about a week in february and came right back in. and this is measuring positioning in market outcome. this is worrisome. i would say there are certain areas, you worry about social media, biotech, the fuel cell stocks where there is some speculative froth going on. >> if europe's forecast is right, up on the s&p. the rally isn't over. it keeps getting over. what is your model going to look like in a couple hundred points now? dave is out there and we'll have him on "closing bell" later this afternoon talking about 500 points left to go in this run. it's hard not to see a late hs 90s parallel. >> we don't. i mean, that's clearly not there. one of the things that happened last year, if you look at quarterly s&p 500 ets and you look at biquarter to see what's trending and layer on the market
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back on top of it. in the late '90s and 2000 time frame, stocks were surging and earnings weren't. in 2010 we started to see a change in earnings, 11, 12, getting better and better. markets were not reacting. worried about sovereign kred did risk and u.s. fiscal policy problems, sequestration. fiscal cliff, those kinds of things. by 2013, as those things subsided, market catch up to earnings. what you noeed now is the earnig growth to maintain to support markets. look, i don't think we're going to get valuation expansion anymore because of where the sentiment is. i don't necessarily disagree with a 500-point view if you have it stretched out three or four years. that doesn't mean you don't get bad bumps along the way. >> i'm trying to think of what sam zell told us a couple weeks ago that rates removed the shot clock from the basketball game. this is not really basketball that we're all watching right now. >> you've got to put this in hockey terms for me.
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>> okay. >> power play then. >> the fed is removing some of the excess liquidity through tapering. kind of eindicated they might remove rates, 2015, 2016. when we value the markets we look at the ten-year bond yield. what do they believe bonds will look like in the next five years. not where they are today. if you're going to do pes. you've got to normalize that, too. when you do those analysis, 90% probability the market will be up in 12 months. those are pretty powerful statistics. >> it is. it does make you think about the areas already where we're seeing, carl, some of this. tobias, thanks. let's get to rick santelli in chicago with today's santelli exchange. good morning, rick. >> good morning, carl. you know, there are certain things that are easy to talk about. there are other things that just aren't. we all know that old adage, you
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know, at the thanksgiving table when you're with family you want to stay away from politics and religion. why? people get infuriated and you never really reach a good conclusion. as of late thursday, big topic that fall s under that same category. global warming/climate change. we've had the president to the secretary of state talk about it recently in terms of the science is settled. science is never settled. that's why it's science. maybe economics gets settled once in a while but never scien scien science. i would be nervous when anybody that isn't directly part of the scientific community tells you science is settled because, see, governments have a big vested interest in climate change. the reason i'm talk ak it today is in the context of what's going on with russia and germany and ukraine. it's all about energy in many ways. it's about natural gas. it's about putin out-maneuvering much of europe. they need the gas. they need the natural gas. they need the energy.
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to that end, some interesting aspects have been on-going with one of the biggest subsidizers of renewable fuels and that's germany. something that caught my eye several weeks ago. put it on the screen. the german energy crisis is pushing the government to consider ending green energy subsidies because they do little to fight global warming and only serve to make electricity more expensive. now, let's just think about this in broad terms. why is climate change such a positive for the governments of the world. easy. fear and greed. and greed is big. how do many governments get people to listen? a little bit of fear. governments like a little bit of greed. if you're making any progress, there isn't any way to prove it. how can we prove if what we're doing today is going to make a difference ten years from now, 20 years from now, 100 years from now? take care of planet but prioritize where you're going with regard to energy because germany is a great lesson. if we don't prioritize, if the cost of their energy gets
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prohibitive, they end up with arrangements like what's going on in the ukraine. it would be much better to allow economics to educate the biggest abusers of energy, the developing countries that pollute a boatload. you're not going to get them to use things that aren't economically feasible. let's the science and technology make renewables work. financially and economically and they will work for all. carl, back to you. >> all right, rick, thanks very much. we want to send it over here to bertha coombs for a quick market flash this morning. >> sweet day for stock surging six times the normal trading. granted, this is a microcap stock but the fda decided the sweetener enhancer is safe which will allow it to be able to sell it to customers like soft drinks makers which will reduce their use of sugar and other sugars substantive. it has a market cap of 480 -- 458 million today, rather, and
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currently trading up there over 20%. sweet day for them at a new high, carl. >> watching pepsi as well on that. thanks. when we come back, it is march and, of course, that means it is almost ncaa tournament time. we brought in louisville's head coach rick pitino to talk about social media. he'll explain when "squawk on the street" comes right back. in the new new york, we don't back down. we only know one direction: up so we're up early. up late. thinking up game-changing ideas, like this: dozens of tax free zones across new york state. move here. expand here. or start a new business here... and pay no taxes for 10 years. with new jobs, new opportunities and a new tax free plan. there's only one way for your business to go. up. find out if your business can qualify at to appreciate our powerful, easy-to-use platform. no, thank you. we know you're always looking for the best fill price.
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coming up at the top of the hour, is the tech sector in bubble trouble? we'll break down the stocks that could be on the brink of bursting. kind out what apple's role could be in this? has bill ackman gone too far this time? harvey pitt is here to lay down the launchts if you love wine, listen up. we have a portfolio manager who trades in the liquid asset who says now is the time to get in. it's all straight ahead on the half. carl, maybe we'll drink wine as well. i hope so. i told the producers, i hope so. >> thanks, scott. see you soon. it's an exciting time of year for college basketball. fans across the country just a week away from the start of march madness. and on sunday we will learn which teams will qualify for the ncaa tournament. joining us this morning is rick pitino, the the coach of the defending champion louisville cardinals, men's basketball team. joins us this morning from louisville. coach, it's great to have you
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back. good morning. >> thanks for having me. >> are you ready to defend your tight until. >> we are. we got a great group of guys to coach. we're excited about it. >> it's always -- you're talking to a business channel. it's a great time for us because a lot of our audience just devours sports but it's also a huge time of the year for social media. and you did make some comments on espn radio not too long ago, calling it poison for athletes. what did you mean by that? >> for athletes and coaches. you know, i tell our guys, we have to say focus, what we calm between the lines. for those of you in the media that deal with technology, social media is an awesome thing. for@leighs and coaches who really have to stay focused in on their job, sometimes too much praise from over the top really stunts one's potential. and then the obvious, in a town like louisville where we have a quarter of a million kentucky fans, it could get quite negative toward them and that's not good. so i try to tell our guys, stay
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between the lines. stay away from social media, focus on your job at hand. social media is a great thing. it's just not great for athletes and coaches. >> think about the potential and how to develop it, part of it is social media, the daily distractions, part of it is this one and done model that seems to pervade college basketball. given the success you've had over decades with so many different teams, is it because you have a different philosophical approach to rekrauting around keeping talent and do you worry today that you're perhaps the last bullwark? >> one and done means it's not even one. it's basically six or seven months of a college education. >> right. >> so then you take online courses second semester and you move on and you go to the pros. nothing wrong with that. it's like so many different ways of trying to be successuccessfu. i remember in nurturing athletes. i remember in building them emotionally, building them
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physical physically. six-month relationship is not something that i want as a college basketball coach. >> i have a feeling a lot of our viewers are going to try to win a billion dollars as buffett and company offers the reward for this bracket. i assume you are not -- you cannot do this. >> no. we cannot. >> would you try if you could? >> yes, but my wife a few years back said, i'm getting -- her best friend had a nail sweep. she was going in the office pool. she said i'm going to win it, it's going to be worth $5,000. can you give me teams i was a pro coach at the time and i gave her some teams. i said after the sweet 16, how did you do? she said, i'm at the bottom half. the person that's winning it is antonio who lived over from italy who has been in the country one year. i said, hoe knows nothing about basketball, how did he lead the pack? he chose joe, he thought it was an italian university. >> that is a great story, coach, right there. leave it to the wives to keep us
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humble. you mention pro coach. espn is report that phil jackson is close to take that gm deal with knicks. you know the team well. i'm trying to find out what's in it for phil. but would you be surprised to see him take it? >> i wouldn't and it would be just awesome for the system. i'm still, as an ex-knick coach, they need a head right now that can make some smart decisions and put this team together that's built to last. right now it's just a bunch of -- it's a mixing of athletes, hoping they'll come together. and i think phil obviously knows the winner formula and he would be awesome for the knicks as well as the city. >> we would be remiss if we didn't ask you about the conference that you're currently in and the way in which it's developing throughout college@athleti college@athletics. i can't keep track of it. the big east has no relevance anymore. where is this all going and what is the better way forward?
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>> well, i think it's starting to stabilize. obviously football is the driving engine for everybody. it's been difficult. you take a school like west virginia who was in the big east, now it's in the big 12. and they have to travel the closest school is 800 miles away. well, for football and men's basketball that's okay. they're taking chartered flights. but for women's soccer, they probably have to drive to pittsburgh 45 minutes and then make three connections to get to ames, iowa. it's not so easy. it is starting to stabilize. we're going in the acc next year to join syracuse, pitt, notre da dame, other big east friends now in the acc. we're looking forward to the challenge. it's will be exciting. >> we started the conversation talking about social. my favorite tweet just now, rick pitino gives good interview. coach, with that, thank you. good luck in the tournament. >> thank you. up next, he rarely speaks but when he does he makes news. the richest man in japan,
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welcome back. david faber joaning us here with more of his interview with softbank's ceo son. >> i should say softbank is a japanese company that holds a
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stake in sprint, 37.5% of ali baba and 42.5% of yahoo! in japan. it is gentleman hoo japan. it's been a big player as well in the internet services business since the web began. in fact, before it all came crashing down with the dotcom bust its found eer was the richt man in the world. >> for three days i was richer than bill gates. and most people don't know that because we crashed before beam noticed. >> it went by fast. >> it crashed. the internet bubble peak. you know, softbank market cap was $200 billion. and i used to own 30 x% so i became the richest for three days. but next year our share price reduced by 99%. okay? so going from $200 billion to $2
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billion, okay? at the bottom we start yahoo! bb, which is our broadband initiative and that gave us $1 billion loss a year for four years. >> and you were willing to do that? >> yeah. >> at the bottom, you lost 99% of your market value. >> at the bottom, after losing 99% in market cap, i decide to fight with the biggest company in japan, ntt, you know. government still owns the biggest share of the company and they were, by then, at that time the -- by far the biggest company in japan. so it's like a government -- like fighting with the whole government. and everybody call me crazy and this is finally the time that softbank is going bankrupt because we lost a billion
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dollars a year. with a market cap of $2 billion, you know -- >> i remember. >> lose $1 billion, 50% of the whole market cap. >> yeah. >> of company. >> crazy. that's what people were saying. >> coo coo. still i decided to take the fight. and after four years of losing a billion dollars a year every year, you know, finally we -- we made it to the -- a little bit of profitability. and then i decided to make 20 billion investment for acquiring vodafone japan. again, people call me crazy. people call me crazy all the time. now i say, oh, that's a compliment. >> and it goes, of course, to what is a very tenacious fellow, mr. son. and that is something that should not be lost on investors here or abroad, as he pointed out. $200 billion to $2 billion, lost
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a billion of year fighting with the biggest company in japan trying to bring broadband business of yahoo japan. he won. he bought vodafone's business, wireless business, and took it yet again to the competitors, the incumbents, and now has a market share as large as theirs. he will be an interesting man to watch. >> will his argument fly in washington? >> at this point it doesn't appear that it will work. but, of course, hearing what you vus heard, perhaps you need to think over the longer term. maybe not 300 years, but over the longer term for mr. mayasoshi son. tweet time. the president made an appearance on " between two ferns" answering questions from health care to international policy. take a listen. >> i have to know. what is it league to be the last black president. >> seriously?
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what's it like to be the last time you talk to a president. >> it must stink to learn three times. >> i think it's a good idea. you know, if i ran a hird time, it would be like doing a third "hankover "hangover" movie. it didn't work out well, did it? >> where will president obama pop up next to plug
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i want to update our viewers on a story we've been watch for months now. "the new york times" reported men's warehouse is close to a deal to acquire joseph a. banks to $65 a share and cash and terminate the current deal joseph a. bank has to acquire eddie bauer. it will be a combination of intriguing battle that actually began with joseph a. bank's making an acquisition proposal to men's warehouse only to have men's warehouse turn the tables
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on it and it would be a successful pac-man defense, so to speak, when men's wearhouse unveils an our on its own. expectation given they got due diligence about a week or so ago from joseph a. banks that we might hear something. it does appear according to the times, not my reporting, the price is up from $63.50 for men's wearhouse, might go to 65 the f. they got due diligence and the termination of the eddie bauer deal. more intriguing is the fact you have men's wearhouse stock up gann a again and the potential transaction. we will await word from the companies but wanted to share that with you given the stocks are moving higher. joseph a bank's not discounted much there at 64.20. we'll take time. might be a tiny bit of antitrust. not necessarily good for some people who rely on their advertising. >> like newspaper? >> i can't imagine what you're talking about.
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>> who knows. consolidate an ad budget and -- >> yeah. on of the painful thing about mergers and buyouts. david, thanks for bringing it to us. scott wapner, you're going to have lot to work with this afternoon. >> a lot of good stories today. retail, bill ackman is a couple hours ago from his next presentation on herbalife. you guys had a great show. have a great rest of the day. here's the game plan. bubble trouble with some parts of tech. parting like it's 1999 all over again. is it time to worry? ackman versus herbalife. he has another presentation. has he gone too far in the bid to win his big bet? former sec head harvey pitt answers that question. liquid assets, why investing in wine can bring thirst quenching returns? it's doing that for one portfolio management here live. that jar


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